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Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher

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Speaker 3: Here we go on a Monday.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to get management to give us

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Speaker 1: a fourth and fifth hour. I can't squeeze all of

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Speaker 1: and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us

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Speaker 1: part of your day. Colin right, Colin wrong, plenty of both.

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Speaker 1: One hour from now. Jmak I woke up little icing

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Speaker 3: Me in a mood for fall and winter.

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Speaker 1: So there's this one question Jy Mack, as we start

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Speaker 1: our show today, the eternal question with the Chicago Bears

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Speaker 1: and the guys up north, the Green Bay Packers always

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Speaker 1: have an answer in Chicago, never does the Eternal question

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Speaker 1: for the Chicago Bears is why can't we figure quarterback out?

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Speaker 1: I think you have now, ironically, it's the defense that

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Speaker 3: So let's talk Bears.

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Speaker 1: Not having a spy against Jackson Dart made no sense.

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Speaker 1: The Giants don't have neighbors, scatter Boot. The weather was bad.

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Speaker 1: How do you not have a spy against Jackson Dart?

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Speaker 1: Bad coordinating by Dennis Allen. But the story of the

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Speaker 1: day was again a fourth quarter comeback, another one by

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 3: And this is the thing.

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Speaker 1: Jackson darts young and athletic, but for the fourth time

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Speaker 3: Protocol tent.

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Speaker 1: And Caleb never is two things that have always been

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Speaker 1: true about Kleb Williams really durable, doesn't get hurt, and

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Speaker 1: he doesn't throw picks.

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Speaker 3: Let me add a third.

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Speaker 1: He's clutch and I don't know how to define it.

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Speaker 1: I always felt this about Joe Burrow. I don't really

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Speaker 1: know how to define it. I want to ask Jimmy Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Troy Aikman's a great leader, can you define it? He

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Speaker 1: goes no, not really is no when you see it.

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Speaker 1: And that's what clutch is. If you start looking at

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams fourth quarter numbers in the four game winning drives,

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Speaker 1: his passer rating is like one forty five. He's a

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Speaker 1: better quarterback under duress, trailing. He's an unbelievable game winning

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Speaker 1: drive fourth quarter quarterback. By the way, Botnick's pretty good too,

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Speaker 1: but this feels different. So his receive were struggling, it

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Speaker 1: was cold, and multiple times, even on some incompletions, Caleb

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Speaker 1: would roll right and show off that arm. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure is there a better arm in the league. I

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Speaker 1: think he holds the ball too long, but I think

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Speaker 1: that's born at a confidence that you can't sack him

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Speaker 1: He's just too big. He's just too.

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Speaker 3: Strong, incredibly durable.

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Speaker 1: And we always talk about, you know, quarterbacks, what they

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Speaker 1: about Tom Brady his favorite asset, no negative plays, always

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Speaker 1: plays ahead of the sticks.

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Speaker 3: And that's one of the things about Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: Now he's not taking the sacks and he's never thrown

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Speaker 3: So much about quarterback isn't what you do. It's what

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Speaker 1: You don't run backwards and scramble and get behind the sticks.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's official. He's still growing. But the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears have their first great quarterback. They've had good ones,

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Speaker 1: Rex Grozeman in a couple good years. Jay Cutler was good.

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Speaker 1: None of them were great and I mean only three penalties.

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Speaker 1: So you watch the Bears offense, head coach, quarterback, weapons,

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Speaker 3: This is what green Bay has been doing.

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Speaker 1: In Chicago's got their solt so again, fourth quarter rallies.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what it looks like. Listen, it's cold,

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Speaker 3: Caleb, he's got a cannon.

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Speaker 1: He throws hard and sometimes you guys are gonna drop it.

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Speaker 1: But don't worry about the aesthetic and the optics. Fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: they won. That's all that mattered. And here was Ben

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you so.

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Speaker 2: Now it's next guy.

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Speaker 4: Man, he's got ice in his veins.

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Speaker 2: And if you don't believe it now you just wait. Man,

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Speaker 2: the best is yet to come.

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Speaker 1: At just keeps getting a little better. The operation stuff

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Speaker 1: DJ Moore couldn't get his feet down. That was forty yards.

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Speaker 3: On a line. As they say, you could hang laundry

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Speaker 1: Yards a line drive off the yard of Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: You were like, Okay, that doesn't look like almost anybody

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Speaker 1: I've been on this for a long time. I prefer

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Speaker 3: You're learning the game.

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Andy Reid, I think it's really valuable now

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Speaker 1: now you don't have to have that Mike Rabel defensive guy. Right,

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Speaker 1: Drake may is flourishing. But Josh McDaniel great coordinator. But

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Speaker 1: I'm watching Buffalo. I got nothing against Sean McDermott. But

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Speaker 1: That's running out of players and only one more than Carolina.

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Speaker 1: And here's my thing with Sean McDermott. Something's always leaking

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's prime. The running game took years to solve.

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Speaker 1: next year to solve it. I mean, Justin Herbert doesn't

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh's got him in a three game winning streak.

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Speaker 3: Where's that uk? Where's rookie pearsoll? Mack Jones?

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Speaker 1: Yesterday went thirty three to thirty nine. Buffalo has been

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Speaker 1: they've averaged fifteen points With Josh Allen and James Cook.

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Speaker 1: How is that possible? And that's my knock on defensive

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay running back, receiver, Pookah's hurt. Pookah's hurt. What

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Speaker 3: Four tight ends in London against the Jags.

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Speaker 1: Offensive coaches can solve problems with their unit and their

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Speaker 1: or two. Running game for Buffalo took forever to solve.

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Speaker 1: The GM finally had to solve it the passing game.

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Speaker 1: Now it can't take this long to solve stuff With

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Speaker 1: James Cook and Josh Allen. I mean, John Elway had

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Speaker 1: one than Mike Shanahan. And I mean, I got nothing

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Speaker 1: against McDermott, but watch the league as you get into

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Speaker 1: this time. I mean, Justin Herbert is working with backup

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Speaker 1: everything in the offensive line, number three running back forgettable

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Speaker 1: tight ends? Does he have a number one receiver? And

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Speaker 1: they're in a three game winning streak. You just have

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Speaker 1: to solve stuff, right, You got to be a fix

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Speaker 1: it guy, you know, that's what you gotta do.

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Speaker 3: That's what Shanahan could do and Dan Reeves couldn't.

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Speaker 1: And I mean Mike Rabel right now, second year quarterback,

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Speaker 1: no number one receiver, running back by committee, although I

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Speaker 1: like Trevon Henderson, which he played more. Tight ends are okay,

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Speaker 1: offensive line solid and they're on a seven game winning streak.

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton's on a seven game winning streak with bow Knicks.

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Speaker 1: Bo Nicks is having a horrible year.

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Speaker 1: So my take is these offensive guys, you just can't

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Speaker 1: go on losing streak. She can't lose to Miami and

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Speaker 1: Allen can't do it and Sean McDermott. I just think, Josh,

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Speaker 1: at this point, I've seen enough. They'll make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: They'll be fine.

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Speaker 3: New England's already better. New England's won seven straight games.

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Speaker 3: They go to Champa and control the game. They went

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Speaker 5: We do need to look, continue to turn over every

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Speaker 5: stone to figure out why this is happening. I feel

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Speaker 5: like it's happened quite a bit your year. This year's

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Speaker 5: probably is as much as I've been around. So you know,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it's I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 5: I really don't so but we've got if We've got

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Speaker 1: Here. So much of coaching is not having the answers,

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Speaker 1: it's finding them. It's solving the problems in season, week

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Speaker 1: to week, moving pieces. And I mean it's not all offense.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday the defense looked tired, gassed.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it was the heat.

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Speaker 1: It's I'm just watching teams like Denver, which is getting

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Speaker 1: have the worst offensive line in three years and they

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Speaker 1: just keep winning. How is justin Herbert that much better

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Speaker 3: I think it's time.

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Speaker 1: I think you can't have to solve every issue in

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Speaker 1: the off season.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if you're running a TV network, a

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Speaker 1: TV show, or a football tav I can't have an

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Speaker 1: off season to solve every problem, all right, Jay Matt

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Speaker 1: Colin Right, Colin wrong?

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Speaker 3: I took one underdog all weekend.

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Speaker 1: It was Pittsburgh last night, and I gotta tell you,

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Speaker 1: Aaron looked old.

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Speaker 6: the end zone. Looked like an old guy falling down

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Speaker 6: the stairs. That was brutal for Aaron Rodgers. I mean

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Speaker 6: that was until that garbage time touchdown, Colin. That was

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Speaker 6: trending like one of the worst games of his NFL career. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's how bad he was. That's your guy, Aaron Rodgerson.

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Speaker 1: I still at a winning, blazing five, but that that hurt.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Adam Schefter just broke the story. Brian Dabole

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Speaker 1: it's idiotic. So this is what the New York Jets

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Speaker 1: they're doing. So the Jets last year, let's fire the

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Speaker 3: How it work embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: So the best coach the Giants have is Brian Dable,

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Speaker 1: who works really well with Jackson Dart. So you're gonna

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Speaker 1: wins a couple of games, every fan's gonna be going, hey.

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Speaker 3: That's our guy.

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Speaker 1: Never fire the best coach on your staff, and if

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Speaker 1: in the middle of a season, to fire Robert Sala,

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Speaker 1: the Jets went sideways in fifteen minutes. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: They have no players left in San Francisco. So again,

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Speaker 3: The Jets a year ago.

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Speaker 1: You're firing your best coach if you want to fire

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Speaker 1: him at the end of the year. That's fine, but

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Speaker 1: he has a really good relationship with the most important

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Speaker 3: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Just like last year, Robert Sala great relationship with Sauce

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Speaker 1: you know I would hire Dable as a coordinator in

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's probable, but I've said before with

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Speaker 1: great defensive coach. He just got to get the offensive guy, right.

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Speaker 1: I think Dable's an excellent offensive coach. Neighbors isn't healthy,

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Speaker 1: Scataboo's not healthy, and they let and Cane. I guarantee

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Speaker 3: They fired it.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's the fourth time we've led by ten, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you don't have a running back.

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Speaker 3: Instead, you go to old man.

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Speaker 1: you do with an interim coach, and good luck. That's

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Speaker 1: the three toughest games in a row in the schedule.

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Speaker 1: Good luck. And for the record, if I would have

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Speaker 1: So I always say this anytime my wife gets all

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Speaker 3: This or this? And the answer is usually yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's not as bad as you think.

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Speaker 1: If I'd have told you Neighbors gets hurt, Andrew Thomas

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Speaker 1: is better than everybo, he thinks. But Jackson Dart emerges

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Speaker 3: You to sign up for that.

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Speaker 1: So these New York football teams are so absurdly reactionary.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is the Jets in a different uniform.

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Speaker 1: Good luck. And again, when you fire coaches mid season,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of humiliating, right. There are going to be

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to sign up for that,

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Speaker 1: You're going to go and hire a coordinator. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: I can sit here and complain I'd hire Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: That's who I would go.

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Speaker 1: Hire Mike McCarthy with Aaron Rodgers, with Cooper Rush, with

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Mike McCarthy's quarterbacks win and perform very well.

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Speaker 3: I would hire Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: The only advantage to firing Brian Dable is that you

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Speaker 1: what are the rules in the NFL on coaches stuff.

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Speaker 1: There's probably some arcane rule he can't call before this

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Speaker 1: and that. I would just send messages through agents in

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Speaker 1: the right channels. Mike McCarthy's who we want. That's my solution.

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Speaker 1: Don't get caught up because watch what happens. Some interim

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Speaker 1: fans like that. Yeah, players respond to that guy. That's

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Speaker 1: my substitute teacher rule. Everybody loves the substitute teacher. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So thirteen seasons the Giants have one playoff win Brian

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Speaker 1: Dabele and Daniel Jones. Okay, so you can complain all

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dark. He was the guy in the building that

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Speaker 1: myself included. We didn't like jack I was like, Jackson

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Speaker 1: Dart's the second round guy.

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Speaker 3: I said that.

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Speaker 1: I said, I've seen him with Lane Kiffen for a

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Speaker 1: He's a second round guy.

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Speaker 3: Right now. He looks better than cam Ward.

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Speaker 1: And the one guy that kept pounding his chest was

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Speaker 3: He was the one guy that's my guy. All right.

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Speaker 1: The Giants interim head coach will be their sixth since

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Ben mcadew spags Pat Shermer.

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Speaker 3: Joe Judge, Brian Babole. All right, you know this whole charade.

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Speaker 1: Now, I know you hate the Giants, so you probably

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Speaker 6: No, shockingly, I kind of agree with you because of

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Speaker 6: Jackson Dart's been so good here the media, it's like

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Speaker 6: the talking points came from high above. The owner is

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Speaker 6: like basically texting every media member, well, he started two

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Speaker 6: and eight each of the last three years. Like they

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Speaker 6: had one of the lowest win totals in the league

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Speaker 6: this year two years ago was the Daniel Jones injury.

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Speaker 6: I believe coming off the playoff here they're killing Dabo

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Speaker 6: for blowing these leads. Collin with a rookie quarterback and

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Speaker 6: no skill position players, He's thrown at Darius Slayton and

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Speaker 6: Theo Johnson. They're building leads. The fact that he can't

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Speaker 6: hold him obviously not great. But you got a rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 6: I'm stunned because Colin. I'll be honest, what if the

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Speaker 6: not not from my system, then you've got to restart

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Speaker 6: over at quarterback. It's not a given that Jackson Dart

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Speaker 1: About this, So yesterday against the Bears on the road,

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Speaker 1: Scataboo's out, neighbors is out, Jackson Dart concussion out. And

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Speaker 1: because you couldn't win Cam Up Williams and that skill

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Speaker 1: the road in the snow, and people are talking about, well,

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Speaker 1: I remember that there's a situational play that all the

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Speaker 1: Giant fans were complaining about.

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Speaker 6: Within one do you go fourth and one up seven

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Speaker 6: or do you kick the field to go, go to go,

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Speaker 6: do up two scores. I could barely get it out.

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Speaker 3: I hadn't sure.

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Speaker 6: Maybe you go for the touchdown there, But whatever I mean,

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Speaker 6: you're not firing the coach off that.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Colin, where's dable coaching next year? Is he a

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Speaker 3: head coach or an OC?

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Speaker 1: He'll interview for the Dolphin job. Probably he's rougher than

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel. He's kind of Gruffy's the opposite of McDaniel.

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Speaker 1: Colin Wright, Colin wrong on the Monday next it's the hurt.

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Speaker 1: Here we go our word two On a Monday, Matt

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Speaker 1: hasselback three to four minutes out the news of the day.

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Speaker 3: Just change.

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Speaker 1: Brian daball out fired, just like the Jets last year.

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Speaker 3: Firing the head coach middle.

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Speaker 1: Of the season, who happens to be the best coach

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Speaker 1: Offensive guy. It's an offensive league. You can go to

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Speaker 1: I think he's a good B plus coach. You know,

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Speaker 1: would an a coach want that job? No, I got

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Speaker 1: news for eight coaches like Mike Frable. They don't want

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Speaker 1: the Jets of the Giants. He wanted to go back

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Speaker 1: to Robert Kraft. Jim Harbaugh is not leaving Michigan for

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Speaker 1: the Jets or Giants. Sean Payton's not taking those jobs.

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Speaker 1: What happens in the NFL is the good coaches use

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Speaker 1: Then they take the better job with the better owner.

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Speaker 1: But I wouldn't have fired Dave Ball.

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Speaker 3: That's me.

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to Matt hassel back in a few minutes.

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Speaker 3: But it is Monday. Colin Wright Colin wrong, And here we.

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Speaker 4: Go where Colin was right?

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Speaker 1: I said three years ago, I said, if Matt Stafford

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Speaker 1: you're gonna look at he and Aaron Rodgers and say

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Speaker 1: two years, forty five touchdowns, ten interceptions, and Aaron looks

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Speaker 1: really old. Matt Stafford, with this coach, finally has a

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Speaker 4: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: I defended hiring seventy four year old Pete Carroll, but

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Speaker 1: getting progressively worse. He pursued Geno Smith that I don't

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Speaker 1: get Pete had a year off to reflect and modernize,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know. Nothing's working. I'm not expecting you

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Speaker 1: to win eight games. Nothing looks good. The special teams,

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Speaker 1: the run game, the defense, none of it looks buttoned up.

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Speaker 3: Where Colin was right, the Niners are.

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Speaker 1: What I thought they were, not as good as Seattle

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Speaker 1: to the Rams.

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Speaker 3: That's why I picked him for third.

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Speaker 1: People said to you out of your mind, and I said,

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Speaker 1: they're old, expensive and brittle. Old players get hurt more

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Speaker 1: and it takes longer for the old players to get back.

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Speaker 1: It's not Max Jones. Mac Jones is doing fine. Don't

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Speaker 1: don't don't blame mac Jones.

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Speaker 3: That's not the issue.

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Speaker 1: The issue is the forty nine ers are an old

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Speaker 1: football team, and you are seeing the results of that

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Speaker 1: very old football.

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Speaker 2: Team where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Now we can show the Michael Pennox video three straight

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Speaker 1: games completing less than sixty percent of his throws, and

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Speaker 1: I liked him out of college. In fact, he had

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Speaker 1: forty five career start So my takeaway was he's going

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Speaker 1: to be kind of ready to play boy. He misses,

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Speaker 1: and he misses badly a lot. So the last two

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Speaker 1: weeks he's also one for eighteen on third down, so

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Speaker 1: he looks uncomfortable. He's skipping a lot of balls. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't look right, and I got to take a wrong

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Speaker 1: on this. It's like a JJ McCarthy. It just doesn't feel.

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Speaker 3: Like the right guy.

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Speaker 4: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: I said a couple of years ago, John Snyder is

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Speaker 1: as good as any personnel guy in the NFL, and

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Speaker 1: since he and Pete Carroll have separated and it is

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Speaker 1: now his roster, I think there's an argument this is

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Speaker 1: the best and fastest roster in the NFL. Turn the

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Speaker 1: sound down and watch the Seahawks. He also got a

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Speaker 1: third round pick for Geno Smith.

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Speaker 3: That's great.

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Speaker 1: Gmming he's also paying Sam Darnold less than Taysom Hill

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Speaker 1: makes as a cap hit. That is great GMing. Right now,

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Speaker 1: this roster is as good as any in the league.

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Speaker 1: And that's because the last two years John Snyder has

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Speaker 1: totally controlled personnel.

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Speaker 4: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: I said to Dallas Mavericks, I said, they're going to

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Speaker 1: make the Western Conference Finals. They are now the worst

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Speaker 1: shooting team in the second worst.

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Speaker 3: In the league.

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Speaker 1: Offensively, they're brutal, they don't have a true point guard.

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Speaker 1: They don't really have a leader, maybe Kyrie Irving when

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Speaker 1: he comes back. They're very directionless. They're either too young

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Speaker 1: or kind of old. So the only team in the

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Speaker 1: league that's worst offensively is the Pacers.

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Speaker 3: Boy, did I miss on the Dallas Mavericks.

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Speaker 4: Where Colin was right?

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Speaker 1: Everybody bailed on Kaylan de Boor. Oh, Kaylan de Boor

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Speaker 1: is no Nick Saban. Well, he's beaten Georgia, Tennessee, LSU

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Speaker 1: Vandy in Missouri four straight ranked matchups that he's won.

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Speaker 1: And you know it takes even if you replace Nick Saban,

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Speaker 1: you got to build your own culture. And nobody's discussing

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Speaker 1: the truth is in the nil world. Bama doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a lot of money. Ohio State's got better players than Alabama.

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Speaker 1: That's not particularly close. Last year Ohio State also had

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Speaker 1: better players, So they are not the Saban Crimson tide.

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Speaker 1: And Nick Saban saw that and he went to broadcasting.

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Speaker 1: So Calin de Boor they got Oklahoma, they'll win a

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Speaker 1: directional school and then Auburn.

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Speaker 3: He's going to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, I worried about hiring two coordinators

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Speaker 1: in house. Dan Campbell admitted yesterday he took over the

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Speaker 1: play calling.

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Speaker 3: He didn't do that with Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 1: So when you hire in house and don't have a

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Speaker 1: global search, you may get a really good candidate, but

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Speaker 1: you're not getting the best candidates. I thought they played

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Speaker 1: it safe. They played it comfortable, and the NFL is

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Speaker 1: a league of discomfort. So and Dan Campbell soft sold it,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean it was a collaborative effort. He

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Speaker 1: took over play calling from the OC. That's not what

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Speaker 1: he wanted to do at the start of the season.

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Speaker 1: Colin Wright Colin Wrong.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 1: eight years in the NFL Heisman Trophy winner.

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Speaker 3: We love having him on the show, and he's joining.

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Speaker 1: Us after a wild, wild weekend for the two best quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: Dante More and Fernando Mendoza. We'll get to that. We

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Speaker 1: will get to that. I want to I want to

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Speaker 1: start with the Brian Dable firing. What I don't like

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Speaker 1: about it is Jackson Dart is your guy. They have

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Speaker 1: a great relationship. Just let it play out. You're not

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Speaker 1: a playoff team. Let it play out for the year.

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Speaker 1: Then you know, if it's Kafka, if it's Mike McCarthy, whatever,

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Speaker 1: your takeaway on firing a coach now with a very

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Speaker 1: sub optimal roster, Scataboo's hurt, neighbors can't stay healthy.

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Speaker 3: What do you or you know?

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Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbek said, bring Hofkin for six games, seven games, let.

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Speaker 3: Him trial run. Where do you land on that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think they need to get rid of everybody.

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Speaker 7: I don't love the fact that they fired Brian Dable

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Speaker 7: at this point in the season.

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Speaker 8: You're two and eight.

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Speaker 7: Normally, when coaches get fired in season it's because you

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Speaker 7: already know the guy that you want to go get

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Speaker 7: and you want to get ahead of that, or you're

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Speaker 7: thinking it's going to spark the team. This team is

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Speaker 7: out out of the playoffs essentially, like they're not going

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Speaker 7: to turn this around going if he did not on

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Speaker 7: the stretch and find a way to sneak in. So

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Speaker 7: I don't love that part of it. But what I

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Speaker 7: really hate is that they attached a rookie quarterback to

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Speaker 7: a head coach and a GM that were on the

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Speaker 7: hot seat again. And I watched this with Chicago and

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Speaker 7: I brought this up, and I caught a lot of

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Speaker 7: flag for it, Colin, because I said that I didn't

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Speaker 7: think that the Bear should connect Caleb Williams to Matt Eberflus,

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Speaker 7: who was a head coach on the hot seat, because

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Speaker 7: then you put your young quarterback in a situation where

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Speaker 7: he's going to have his second head coach and his

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Speaker 7: second play caller in his second year.

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Speaker 8: The biggest thing for young guys is stability.

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Speaker 7: So now you sit here and I didn't know what

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Speaker 7: the Giants are doing in the offseason when they brought

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Speaker 7: in Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston and then went drafted

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Speaker 7: Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 8: But here we are, so I.

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Speaker 7: Think the only rightful decision for them to make now

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Speaker 7: is to go hire Lane Kiffin as head coach, because

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Speaker 7: that's the only guy that knows Jackson Dart better than

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Speaker 7: any other coach in the NFL and is going to

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Speaker 7: be able to get the best out of him to

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Speaker 7: where Dart isn't going to have to now go into

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Speaker 7: a new situation and learn a whole new terminology and

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Speaker 7: a whole new way of doing things.

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Speaker 8: Kiffen knows him better than anybody.

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Speaker 1: Also, you know why that's a great idea. I had

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Speaker 1: keiffn in Miami, but Lane's been a head coach usc

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Speaker 1: Ole miss NFL. When you try to go it's hard

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Speaker 1: to be a head coach, to go to New York

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Speaker 1: and be a first time head coach, I mean the

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Speaker 1: talk radio, it's the fans.

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Speaker 3: It's hard. So that that is really that's a great idea.

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Speaker 3: I want to ask.

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Speaker 1: You, Caleb has been the opposite of JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: Caleb's great late j JJ.

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Speaker 1: On the first drive you what is your takeaway on

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Speaker 1: Caleb's performance during this winning streak? Kind of it unlocked

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Speaker 1: later in the game, are you okay with that?

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Speaker 7: I am okay with it because it's really about Caleb

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Speaker 7: and Ben Johnson finding a way to win. And you know,

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Speaker 7: I listen to what all these guys say because you

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Speaker 7: can hear how they really feel in what they're saying.

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Speaker 7: After the games, and Caleb Williams talked about Ben Johnson

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Speaker 7: and he said, you know what, we're like a two

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Speaker 7: punch tandem. And the trust of the guys in the

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Speaker 7: locker room and the coaching staff has been a real

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Speaker 7: big thing for them. He talked about how Ben Johnson's

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Speaker 7: information that he's providing him and giving him helping him

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Speaker 7: in preparation has gone a long way with him to

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Speaker 7: be effective at the end of games. And what that

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Speaker 7: is to say is if you remember last year, there's

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Speaker 7: the article came out about how Matti Ebraflus and the

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Speaker 7: staff weren't really teaching Caleb Williams how to study in

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Speaker 7: the end, how to break down NFL defenses and how

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Speaker 7: to do those different things. He's getting that now from

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Speaker 7: Ben Johnson, and it makes it to where he trusts

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Speaker 7: what he sees when he's on the field. Sometimes when

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Speaker 7: you go into an environment that you don't really know Colin,

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Speaker 7: and you don't really know what you're supposed to be seeing.

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Speaker 7: It's really hard to pull that trigger. Caleb is doing that,

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Speaker 7: especially in critical moments. So I really believe that him

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Speaker 7: and Ben Johnson are winning. And I know that the

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Speaker 7: teams that they've beat over the last six weeks then

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Speaker 7: they've won six of the last seven, have a combined

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Speaker 7: record of fifteen thirty three and one.

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Speaker 8: But in the NFL, you never apologize for winning games,

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Speaker 8: and winning games is really hard.

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Speaker 7: So they're building their relationship by winning the games in

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Speaker 7: front of them.

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Speaker 8: And I couldn't be happier for him.

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Speaker 1: I said earlier today, I said, I figured out every

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Speaker 1: team in the league. It took me ten weeks except Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I get. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: I get week to week, half to half, clawber, New

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Speaker 1: England drop, the Colts lost to the Bengals, blown out

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Speaker 1: by the Chargers Green Bay. If you've ever been on

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Speaker 1: a team, usually you get a sense what a team is.

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Speaker 1: Now everybody has a stinger, but you kind of get

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Speaker 1: a sense of what a team is. What does it

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Speaker 1: tell you that Pittsburgh week to week is a totally

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Speaker 1: different team?

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Speaker 3: Energy, focus, production, performance.

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Speaker 7: Why yeah, Colin, this is the first time I've ever

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Speaker 7: felt like the Pittsburgh Steelers don't have an identity.

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Speaker 4: Why right.

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Speaker 7: Normally, when you think of the Steelers, you think they're

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Speaker 7: gonna run the football and they're gonna play great defense. Well,

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Speaker 7: they can't run the football, and on defense, they're ranked

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Speaker 7: thirtieth in the NFL against the pass, so their defense

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Speaker 7: isn't great. They don't have a consistent identity week in

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Speaker 7: and week out, and part of me thinks it is

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Speaker 7: because there might be a little bit of conflict in

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Speaker 7: the play calling. I watched them on fourth and goal

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Speaker 7: and Aaron Rodgers through that back shoulder fade or what

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Speaker 7: looked like a fade to DK Metcalf, and it looked

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Speaker 7: like he said signaled that to him, or was a

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Speaker 7: decision that he made. But he had Pat Fryermuth coming

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Speaker 7: wide open right around the first down marker, which would

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Speaker 7: have put them at first in goal.

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Speaker 8: But he didn't go there.

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Speaker 7: And when I watched some of the tags that they run,

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Speaker 7: Rogers notorious for adding tags to run plays and being

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Speaker 7: able to have the flexibility to do what he wants

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Speaker 7: in those situations. I don't know if there's a complete

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Speaker 7: trust there between Arthur Smith and Aaron Rodgers when it

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Speaker 7: comes to the play calling and how they're executing the offense.

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Speaker 7: And that's a problem because Rogers said he needs to

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Speaker 7: play better.

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Speaker 8: He knows that he's a Hall of famer. They brought

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Speaker 8: him in there to steady the ship.

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Speaker 7: But if they don't have an identity offensively on how

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Speaker 7: they're going to attack defenses weekend and week out, they

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Speaker 7: can never build on anything.

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Speaker 8: And that's why they're having so much inconsistency.

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Speaker 3: That's why we bring you on the show. That was

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Speaker 3: really good.

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Speaker 1: I got to ask you to college things because you

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Speaker 1: were a Heisman winner. There're certainly an argument all these

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Speaker 1: guys should come back. But I'm watching Mendoza make those

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Speaker 1: throws on that last drive on the road, Robert, those

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Speaker 1: are Sunday throws.

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Speaker 3: That kid is a big kid.

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Speaker 1: With a big arm, and if you're going to be

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Speaker 1: the number one pick, you probably got to come out.

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Speaker 1: And then Dante more in Terrible Iowa Weather is making

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Speaker 1: a throw out the right sideline. You're like, just let's talk.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk both those guys. I think you have to

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Speaker 1: come out if you're the first or second pick.

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Speaker 8: I agree.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk Mendoza first and then Dante Moore. What do

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Speaker 1: you see from those two?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, first thing I see from Fernando Mendoza is his

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Speaker 7: ability to command a room, Like when this guy talks,

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Speaker 7: you know, I think this past weekend he said I'm

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Speaker 7: willing to die on the field for my teammates. Okay,

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Speaker 7: Well tell me an offensive lineman or a coach or

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Speaker 7: a GM that's not going to hear that and be like, I.

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Speaker 8: Don't want that guy.

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Speaker 7: They would all want that guy because he seems to

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Speaker 7: be all about ball, and I was. The drive was

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Speaker 7: super impressive in his ability to make those big time

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Speaker 7: NFL throws a pressure in his face, But I was

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Speaker 7: even more impressed with the last one for the touchdown.

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Speaker 7: I know it was an amazing catch by Omar Cooper Junior,

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Speaker 7: but the fact that Mendoza made that throw in that

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Speaker 7: moment literally getting you know, his face knocked off and

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Speaker 7: just gets up and walks off like it's nothing. That

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Speaker 7: to me, it was his Heisman moment one hundred percent.

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Speaker 7: But it was also the moment that every NFL scout

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Speaker 7: is going to look at and say, that's my quarterback.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he's got all the measureables. He's got all the intangibles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Dante Moore played in lousy weather. He moves better,

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Speaker 1: ye he to me, he again, he's just slick.

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Speaker 3: He moved.

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Speaker 1: He is a twenty twenty five NFL quarterback and he's

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Speaker 1: supposed to be the nicest, most humble kid.

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Speaker 3: What do you see with him?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I think for Dante Moore, it's everything that Mendoza has

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Speaker 7: that that that Dante doesn't he makes up for with

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Speaker 7: his playmaking ability. I think Mendoza's got the big arm,

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Speaker 7: the big body, the frame, and he's and he's got

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Speaker 7: the toughness. Dante's got all that and a little bit

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Speaker 7: of a smaller package. But when I watch him throw,

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Speaker 7: because I'm calling their game this week with Jason Bennetti

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Speaker 7: in a Lex Atlantis stoy against Minnesota, when you watch him.

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Speaker 8: Throw, it's just like the ball always gets to the

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Speaker 8: right place.

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Speaker 7: And I'm gonna say this and maybe people when I

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Speaker 7: get mad at me about it, but he reminds me

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Speaker 7: of if you put Dylan Gabriel and Sear Sanders in

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Speaker 7: the same.

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Speaker 8: Body, that that is what he has.

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Speaker 7: Because for Dylan Gabriel there in Cleveland, right now there's

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Speaker 7: a little bit of like what's missing. I think Dante

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Speaker 7: has that he has that special playmaking ability inside of

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Speaker 7: him and he doesn't unleash it all the time. But

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Speaker 7: you saw it on like a forty yard run against

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Speaker 7: Iowa this past weekend.

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Speaker 3: By the way, you've been joined by somebody behind you

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Speaker 3: the couch. Who is the uh.

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Speaker 1: It's one of your one of your slot receivers.

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Speaker 4: Two year old Gia come out here.

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Speaker 3: Come on, come on, Ga, come on.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, she's over there with the funk oh pop. She's

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Speaker 7: having a good time.

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Speaker 3: That is awesome. Hey, great stuff is always my man.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Robert