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Speaker 1: Welcome back to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, James Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co host,

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Speaker 1: Joe Hayden. Please make sure your like and subscribe and

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Speaker 1: download wherever you get your podcasts at Joe whatever.

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Speaker 2: Doing the day, brother, Debo, I'm doing great. I'm doing good.

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Speaker 2: My boysh your door is in the Pro Bowl, So

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Speaker 2: I'm happy for.

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Speaker 1: Him, Yes, definitely. What do you think about? What you

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Speaker 1: think of that? What you think about that?

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Speaker 2: So look, it's a big thing about the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 2: now though, Debo. Honestly, I don't think I'm happy, So

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Speaker 2: I don't want to. I'm not gonna knock your door,

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Speaker 2: but I think that people don't take the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 2: The players just don't take it as serious right now,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like people bounding out, like

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Speaker 2: all the quarterbacks, like once you get in.

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Speaker 3: I know, when I first came to.

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Speaker 2: The league, getting into the Pro Bowl with something I

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Speaker 2: wanted to do huge, that was one of the biggest accomplishments,

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Speaker 2: knowing that you want to be a pro I remember

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Speaker 2: just watching Dion, watching Champ, watching all of the dudes,

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Speaker 2: just going into that game and just being able to

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Speaker 2: beat then All Star like the All Star Game, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like that was just something that

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Speaker 2: I always wanted and I wanted to be recognized as

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Speaker 2: a Pro bowler. I think now it's just it's getting

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Speaker 2: a little watered down, basically because it's a lot of

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Speaker 2: the dudes. If you don't make it, it's injuries, it's

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen didn't go. It's like Herbert you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, Drake May the Super Bowl players that can

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Speaker 2: go the Super Bowl team. So it kind of just

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Speaker 2: gets knocked down. I think for Shador to be able

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Speaker 2: to get in, Listen Huntley got in.

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Speaker 3: Tyler Huntley got into the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 2: He only played five games, he threw for six hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty eight yards, two touchdowns, and like three picks,

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Speaker 2: and he still made the Pro Bowl in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: So if we're gonna knock Shador for going to the Bowl,

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Speaker 2: we can't knock them like it wasn't It just it

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Speaker 2: makes it look watered down. Obviously, I'm not gonna knock him.

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Speaker 2: My happy form that he made it. He did go

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Speaker 2: out there and perform, but it just goes to show

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Speaker 2: it's a lot of people that are injured, it's people.

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Speaker 2: The players just aren't taking it as as serious as

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Speaker 2: they used to. And I think that that's kind of

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Speaker 2: why some people are hating because it's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: he played, he started seven games, he played eight. His

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Speaker 2: numbers fourteen hundred yards, seven touchdowns, ten picks. It's nothing

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Speaker 2: to like, you know what I'm saying. It's not like,

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Speaker 2: oh my goodness, like that was great numbers. But when

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Speaker 2: you look at it, like all the people that bowed out,

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Speaker 2: all the players that were able to go to the

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowl, like, no, I'm not going to play because

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Speaker 2: it's flag football now, you know what I'm saying. It's

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Speaker 2: not like it used to. The dudes aren't going out there.

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Speaker 2: I haven't been watching the Pro Bowl, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. Not like it's just not what it used

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Speaker 2: to be. I remember we used to watch. You used

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Speaker 2: to love it, like you knew you were going to

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Speaker 2: get some competition, you were going to get people hitting.

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Speaker 2: It was something to watch. Now it's just the real

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Speaker 2: thing is all pro If you get ap all Pro

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowls are still good. You want to get those

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Speaker 2: on your resumes. You want to be able to have

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Speaker 2: those just because once it's all said and done, it

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Speaker 2: looks good.

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Speaker 3: How many times did you go to the.

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Speaker 2: Pro If you want to have your fight for the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, it just looks good on your resume.

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Speaker 2: But like as of now, it's just starting to look

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Speaker 2: it's starting to get super warded down because players aren't

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Speaker 3: A lot of dudes are bowing out, you know what

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Speaker 2: So I could see why people are like, man, she's

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Speaker 3: I don't think he deserves to be in there.

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Speaker 2: But when you look at it, how many people are

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Speaker 3: People?

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Speaker 2: The guys that are nominated of the I don't think

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Speaker 3: They asked him did he want to be in it?

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Speaker 3: He bowed out, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So when there's the players, like who is actually going

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Speaker 2: to be in the Pro Bowl. What players do you have?

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Speaker 2: Then you have cam Ward. I looked at him, and

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Speaker 2: you got Shador. You don't know. I think the fans

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Speaker 2: might have voted for Shador because the Pro Bowl also

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Speaker 2: is a third defan vote, a third the player votes

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Speaker 2: and the third the coach's votes, So it could turn

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Speaker 2: into a popularity contest too, where.

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Speaker 3: End of the day, they look.

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Speaker 2: Shador, he did good. He definitely bought up Huntley made

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Speaker 2: it to the Pro Bowl. These other guys went out,

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Speaker 2: Shador's gonna go. Then fans are going to be there everybody.

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Speaker 2: There's got a lot more reason for some people to watch.

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of how I would look at the

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Speaker 2: whole thing happening. And it's not against Shador, but I'm

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Speaker 2: happy for him. He's now going to have that Pro

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Speaker 2: are like it's kind of watered down because if you

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Speaker 2: was just to look at the season to see the

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks and somebody just did Shador have a Pro Bowl year?

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Speaker 2: Is he one of those top guys that you think

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Speaker 2: are in the pro bom, I'm like, no, But if

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Speaker 2: people are bouncing out, if guys are going down, you

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Speaker 2: start to look at who's available. Yes, then you could say,

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Speaker 2: you know what, damn right, because Tyler Huntley did it

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Speaker 2: with six hundred and fifty four yards and played five

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Speaker 2: games and he's a pro bowler, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So I can't knock him being a pro bowler and

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Speaker 2: then seeing Shador being able to get into it. I'm

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Speaker 2: not mad at it, but I can see why people

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Speaker 2: can be like man, da da da. But it's watered

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Speaker 2: down now a little bit. But that's not that's not

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Speaker 2: your RS fault.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I think it done turned into more of

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Speaker 1: a popularity contests. Like I said, I'm not mad at

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Speaker 1: it either. The you know, the NFL, they want eyes

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Speaker 1: on it. What's go put eyes on Like y'all looking

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Speaker 1: at the fan vote, y'all know what's go put eyes

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Speaker 1: on it? And I ain't gonna lie to you. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know how y'all did. Y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all

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Speaker 1: pro bot voting. But when I first got when I

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Speaker 3: To the Stillers, I'm gonna keep it a buck with you, Okay.

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Speaker 1: So when I first got there, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: pro b voting. Yeah, you know, I get into there.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're going to the meeting and with coward.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you if you five minutes earlier, you

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Speaker 1: ain't gotten Never worried about being late. So I was

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Speaker 1: afraid of being late. I was young, So I got

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Speaker 1: in there early, right, So I grabbed my paper. I

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Speaker 1: You know, they got the sheet. Yeah, and I'm starting

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Speaker 1: and then everybody else started coming in. You got one,

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Speaker 1: they mes the board, and when they went to the board,

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Speaker 1: they wrote down the positions.

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Speaker 2: And then they put names under it.

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Speaker 1: So what we were doing was putting down names of

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Speaker 1: players that we knew were least likely to make it

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Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Oh damn.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So listen, So that you gave your player, because

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Speaker 1: you can't forget.

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Speaker 3: You, because it came hope for your players.

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Speaker 1: So it gave you more chance to get in, right,

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Speaker 1: So it gave you more of a chance of getting in.

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking I'm like, okay, well you know why

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Speaker 1: I'm like, who is that? And it's a backup, you

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Speaker 2: Y'all are voting for I think the people we're voting

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Speaker 2: Who are you guys? Who are you voting for?

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Speaker 3: A y'all doing it?

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Speaker 1: We were when I when I first started doing dude,

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Speaker 1: we voted for the whole thing across the board.

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Speaker 3: Wow. See that's savage, that savage, that savage. It was

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Speaker 1: And then I think it ended up I don't even

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Speaker 1: So what it came down to is like say, say

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Speaker 1: de vote get in well. Instead of voting for, say,

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Speaker 1: we vote for somebody else that was like a backup

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Speaker 1: out is that everybody else called on to that too,

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Speaker 3: You're like, how he make it?

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Speaker 1: Well, everybody else started doing the same thing, and they

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Speaker 1: was picking the same names all so.

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Speaker 2: Everybody was inside the thought they was trying to backdoor

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Speaker 3: Next thing, everybody trying to back lawyers.

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Speaker 1: And then you know when you when you add on

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Speaker 1: to it, like you said, the fan vote is a

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Speaker 1: third of it, the coaches vote is a third of it,

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Speaker 1: the players vote it is a third on it.

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Speaker 3: Now you go and you.

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Speaker 1: Add into that that coaches they voting too. You think

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Speaker 1: a coach go vote a guy in that they think

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Speaker 1: could get in over somebody else that they maybe think

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Speaker 1: can't get in. And I layer that they have has

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Speaker 1: a bonus attached to a Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this. I will hope so, I

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Speaker 2: will hope so because I'm telling you the way when

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Speaker 2: we when we voted for the pro bo, when we

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Speaker 2: voted for the provote, we voted the right way. I'm

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Speaker 2: it's the same because I know we were voting for

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Speaker 2: the receivers and we was like, who cooked us?

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Speaker 3: You know, I think they might have changed it during

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Speaker 3: the process.

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Speaker 1: Where you you ended up voting for whoever it was,

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Speaker 1: that your position was that you win against Okay, like

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Speaker 1: when I first like two thousand and two, when I

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Speaker 1: Bro, when you look at like you said, the All

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Speaker 1: Like, whatever the reason may be, it don't matter. But

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Speaker 2: Come on, yep, come on, bruh.

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Speaker 1: But you put in people before him that didn't have

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Speaker 2: They got more sacks to him.

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Speaker 3: The man got one hundred and sixty sacks.

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Speaker 3: They talking about you?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, But I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not the hall the Hall of fame.

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Speaker 3: All right, like that's that's that's Hall of fame.

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Speaker 2: But once they start getting past that and they start

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Speaker 2: It's a bit And that's that's the sad part to it,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, I love, love, love my fate.

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Speaker 2: Like Darrell Reeves, he was in the league when I

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Speaker 2: He deserved to be first ballot Hall of Fame. But

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Speaker 3: So he can easily get bypassed and next thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, nobody speaking on Santy, So I can see

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're talking about Hines over here for show in

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Speaker 3: Like that's his impact, brou Like the.

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Speaker 1: Now, Like that was it. You gotta look at what

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Speaker 2: Totally the things he really and at the end of

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Speaker 3: They made a rule for him to crack.

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Speaker 2: You You your legacy being remembered and people having to

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So him, he deserves to be

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Speaker 2: that are going to be Hall of Fame, Like when

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Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying, like you start, you start

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Speaker 3: Man? Like what are y'all talking about?

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Speaker 1: Like it's it's us, it's we're flawed. Bro, you can't

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Speaker 1: if you could get your get back, that's just that's just.

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Speaker 3: Human nature, bro. And no, no we can't you No

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Speaker 1: We can't use No AI is programmed by humans.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Like that's not gonna, that's gonna.

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Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, bruh, Like the more

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Speaker 1: Like we are the worst thing in this world for

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Speaker 2: We don't we don't need We're not We're imperfect people

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Speaker 2: and that's what makes us perfect. That's what makes us people,

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Speaker 1: Makes us people, but it don't make it don't make

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Speaker 2: No, NOOS is gonna be perfect. I like I like

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Speaker 2: Like you had a hell of a year. And that's

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Speaker 2: why the APS is like when I'm talking about respect,

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Speaker 1: Hey Joe, tell you this, Why don't nobody want the

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Speaker 3: Your boy? What?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is your boy. So McDaniels he dropped out.

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Speaker 1: He said, I'm gonna go see what Buffalo doing. Mentor

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Speaker 1: how well he did in Detroit? Well was it twenty

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Speaker 2: Joe, Why tell me, why why don't nobody want this?

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Speaker 3: Cleveland job, Joe.

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Speaker 2: Because they would like to be a head coach and

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Speaker 2: to keep the main thing, the main thing. You think

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Speaker 2: they're doing all that, Joe, I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think, Joe, you want me to tell you why,

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Speaker 2: what they're going to do because they're great coaches, they're

438
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 2: great leaders of men. They know what decisions they want

439
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,239
Speaker 2: to make and know what they want to do. They

440
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 2: don't feel like going they don't have time to sit

441
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 2: there and do homework. They're ready to like really make

442
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 2: things happen, really make moves, have talks. So like the

443
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,679
Speaker 2: coaching hiring process is like, why are they putting all

444
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 2: these coaches through these loops when we haven't we haven't

445
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 2: shown any organizational reason like that we're leading the right way,

446
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,160
Speaker 2: that we know the right decision to make.

447
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,439
Speaker 3: These coaches are smart.

448
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 2: I would think McDaniel, my man, Mike McDaniel, he was there,

449
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,400
Speaker 2: he was a wide receiver coach when I was there

450
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 2: for the Browns. Then he went to Miami and now

451
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 2: he was like this, No, I'm not about to go

452
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 2: there and do all of this craziness. I'm going to

453
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 2: go rather have an offensive coordinator job and go chill

454
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 2: where I can maybe figure it out, reget my stuff,

455
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 2: and then go get another head coaching job, because I'd

456
00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,199
Speaker 2: rather go oc and go chill for a second then

457
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 2: go over here and do all this damn homework that

458
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 2: you're gonna make me do in these essays and these

459
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 2: thesis statements instead of having to worry about the main

460
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 2: thing and like getting this how we're gonna get this roster?

461
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 3: Who's gonna be the offensive coordinator? The hit?

462
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 2: All right, Jim Swartz, thanks, he had to do.

463
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 3: I'm glad.

464
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 2: Well, look, Jim Sports knows he's there. He's been a

465
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: great defensive coordinator. The lock the team, the locker room.

466
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Speaker 3: We like him.

467
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: He's been doing great, and hopefully if we don't scare

468
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 2: everybody else off, hopefully we do make him the head coach,

469
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 2: and he learned from his mistakes. Right now is look,

470
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 2: listen to what I'm trying to tell you. He has

471
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 2: our locker room. We don't know who else is going

472
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 2: to be the coach. We might run everybody else off.

473
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 2: The defense has been great, so he can still keep

474
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 2: that defensive mind and know what you don't know, bring

475
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 2: you an offensive mind in there. So we do need

476
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 2: still offensive coordinator. We still need to still get that

477
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 2: spot filled. But if we do have Jym Sports, I'm

478
00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 2: not mad at him.

479
00:21:59,119 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 3: I like him.

480
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 2: I like the way he's been doing with the defense,

481
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 2: and I like the way the team likes him. The

482
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 2: coaching cancel for us to be able to hire a coach,

483
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 2: we're scaring everybody off the boa. So yes, if we

484
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 2: can get jump Sports is still going to be there.

485
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 2: He's still taking this test and he's answering them right

486
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 2: and giving them the good thesis.

487
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 3: Yes, is he having to take the test though, I

488
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 3: don't know.

489
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. He's still there they get I would

490
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: think that. I don't know why they wouldn't. Do you

491
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 2: think he had to get a test to become a

492
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, So they're not testing them now.

493
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 3: I think this is something.

494
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 2: This is the first time we ever heard of this,

495
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 2: the head coaching job in the NFL. I think they're

496
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: testing everyone.

497
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 3: Are they testing the ones that's already there? I don't know.

498
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Speaker 1: That's homework, essays all that. Listen, Joe, this is why

499
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: they're doing it. Why the Haslam family. Yes, started off

500
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: getting their money with Flying Jay's. Okay, that's the truck stops. Okay,

501
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 1: it's actually nice. I went to a few of them

502
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: back in the day. It's real nice. I was doing

503
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: some long distance truck driving with my brother right.

504
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 2: Along with him.

505
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 3: You know, it's cool. It's everything you get in one spot.

506
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: But when he got that team in twenty twelve, he

507
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 1: became the majority owner, and I believe what is it?

508
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: He has a stake in just got staken Minnesota sorry Milwaukee.

509
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 3: Bucks in the basketball team.

510
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: So in short, he don't know what the hell he's doing,

511
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 1: so how does he fix that? How he did when

512
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: he was running everything else that used understanding of how

513
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: you get the information. So they're trying to use that

514
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: to get a breakdown of what is going to be

515
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: a good coach by having them do something that a

516
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: coach doesn't normally do. And when it comes down to

517
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: it from him, it's just it's an investment. Boy, it's

518
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: the ROI like, you have no knowledge or understanding of

519
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: the game.

520
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: You just worried about the investment. But it's getting so

521
00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 3: loud right now.

522
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: He's tired of being you know, he's not of being

523
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: in the basement and everybody talking bad about it.

524
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 3: So he's like, Yo, my people figured this out.

525
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: If we do this and we get the personality trading,

526
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: they right to essay the right way and all that,

527
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: they're going to be a great coach.

528
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 3: No, you got to know the.

529
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 2: Game to be able to understand what you're talking to,

530
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 2: who you're talking to, and how they're going to be

531
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 2: able to go out here and help and develop your team.

532
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 2: You know what I need? I need.

533
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 3: I need billions so I could go invest.

534
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: In ice hockey, a ice hockey team, and then wonder

535
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: why I ain't got no success, but I still don't

536
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 1: really care because the long term thing, as long as

537
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: my return on investment is right, I'm good. Like, Yeah, no,

538
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: he don't know football, family don't know football.

539
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 2: And then I would say to in twenty sixteen when

540
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 2: we went straight analytics, we handled higher deep Pedesto and

541
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: he's a moneyball guy. And the Browns are really really

542
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 2: really big and analytics, and I remember a man Mike

543
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: Patton is saying that we could use Mike just we

544
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: can use analytics can be the tail, not the head.

545
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 2: I think that the hasms are just using so just

546
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: trying to be so smart that you can outsmart yourself.

547
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying?

548
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes you got to know that you're not the smart

549
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: that you just can't analytic everything. You know what I'm saying.

550
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 2: It can help, it can be an asset, but that's

551
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 2: not that's not all the ball, do you know what

552
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

553
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: So I think that just not.

554
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: Doing the normal things that just sometimes the simplest thing

555
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: that you can see of like we don't have to

556
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 2: like all these these coaches are amazing coaches and have

557
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 2: great minds. For certain reasons, us having to put them

558
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: through all of these hoops. Nobody else does it, and

559
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 2: there's maybe a reason for it, you know what I'm saying.

560
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: Like we start out thinking ourselves the smart thing. Sometimes

561
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: the simple thing is maybe the easiest thing, and like no, no, no,

562
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: that can't be it.

563
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 3: No, no, no, sometimes it can be it.

564
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: And I think we're trying to the Browns management with

565
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: the hasms and just thinking they're out smarting theirselves.

566
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes Oh yeah, And I don't even I don't. I

567
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: don't think they're they're out smarter than theirself. They're just

568
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 1: so lost. They have no other way other than what

569
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: they can read on paper. Like they're searching for something

570
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: that will give them a solid and they're looking at

571
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: analytics and it's like, oh, the analytics work, well, the

572
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: analytics works so much Like hire you somebody that does

573
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: analytics to be your head coach and they can analytics

574
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: their way through it. To be a good head coach,

575
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: you got to be a leader of men too, period,

576
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: Like they gotta follow you, they gotta believe you, they

577
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: gotta they got to buy into what it is that

578
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: you're saying you're doing, and then it has to come

579
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: true on the field.

580
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 3: For you to be a good coach.

581
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 2: When you're coaching, man, you're not You're not taking They

582
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: might not be the best test taker.

583
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: Right. You can't read that in the essay. You can't

584
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 3: write that.

585
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: I cannot be to express myself on this on exactly

586
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: the way I need to get to my guys, the

587
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 2: way I can galvanize, the way I can teach, so

588
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: I can show things like I don't know, like my

589
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 2: like really when the coaches really want to be like

590
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy, if they want to put any of these

591
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: coaches through this stuff, google me like, look at my

592
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: Look at what I've done, right, you know what I'm saying,

593
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: Like I don't need to be sitting here writing down this.

594
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: I'm I'm sixty years old, I'm fifty five years old.

595
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: Why are you giving me homework like I've done this before.

596
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: You guys are the ones that don't know what's going on.

597
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: They might they might have they might have their players

598
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: start doing something, you know before they draft and that man,

599
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: give me an essay and you know, give me do

600
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: this and that I need to I need to check

601
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: out you whatever it is they already got. What is

602
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: that the thet I ain't going through one delict test

603
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: or something like that.

604
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: What is that? I think so something like that.

605
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't. I don't know what it is.

606
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: You know me, I ain't get draft. I took the test.

607
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: I did straight, and then the Browns interviewed me too,

608
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 2: and I went to there and it was solid. It

609
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: wasn't you have to write essay? I have to write essay. No,

610
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 2: it's first round. Crazy. No essay, that's crazy. The Stillers,

611
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: I guess they got a two o'clock meeting. They introduce

612
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 2: uh McCarthy, Okay, I'm.

613
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 3: Gonna watch that's conference two o'clock.

614
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to watch that. We're gonna have to

615
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: watch that for sure. I'm gon on FaceTime with you.

616
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, We're definitely definitely, yeah, we're gonna have to.

617
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: We have to FaceTime on that. Get get up on

618
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: that talk on Friday. But still they said they're hoping

619
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: to make a decision on Aaron Rogers uh in the

620
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: next month or so.

621
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 3: I guess they talked to.

622
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: Mister Rooney Art Rooney and uh, he said, we don't

623
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: know Aaron's plans right now, And that didn't that did

624
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: not weigh heavily into the decision. I thought before it

625
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: didn't weigh into the decisions at all, but it says

626
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: heavily now. And then it says, we'll see where Aaron

627
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: is and we left the door open. But obviously we

628
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: all have to sit down and see if it makes sense.

629
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: So he's actually saying, eh, we got to sit down

630
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: and see if it makes sense. If it don't make

631
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: sense then because you know, they're saying like when when

632
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: Aaron left, they.

633
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: Wasn't I mean, McCarthy wasn't too cool.

634
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: No, more like he had said some stuff about his IQ,

635
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, being the lowest of you know, any coach

636
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: that he had been involved with, stuff like that. So yeah,

637
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: he said, so we're he said, so that's what happens,

638
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: so in the next month or so.

639
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: But the decision will be based on Mike being the coach.

640
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: He said, the decision was based on Mike being the

641
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: coach we want. And it's really hard, he said, it's

642
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: really it really had very little to do with rather

643
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: Aaron is going to come back or not. Okay, you

644
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: want Aaron back.

645
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: I just the thing, it's not that I don't I

646
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: was just down for a restart and if a Rod

647
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: does come back, it's going to be probably for people

648
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: one more year and the numbers are right. Ay, Rod

649
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: came back. He did what he had to do this

650
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: year for thirty fourteen million dollars a roll. Come back

651
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: next year for ten You know what I'm saying, Like

652
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: end of the day, he's not he's not hitting the cap,

653
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: he's not hitting nothing. I don't, I don't, I'm not,

654
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I don't think for the Steelers, this is

655
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: not what we want. I think I'm ready for new.

656
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: I'm ready for new. I'm ready for new.

657
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm It's nothing against Aaron.

658
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: It's just that in the process of trying to further

659
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: the organization like that.

660
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: That that doesn't that doesn't further us.

661
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: I don't think.

662
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: And McCarthy said, uh he or Art said, uh he

663
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: likes that. McCarthys told him that he likes he likes Will.

664
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: Howard thinks Will he can go on and you know,

665
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: have a tremendous subside. He's looking forward to working with him,

666
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: you know all that stuff. So I would rather go

667
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: and like see what what Will could do and if

668
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: you know, something falls, you know, get some low hanging

669
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: fruit that might' you know, failed somewhere else and later

670
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't know even if like we crash out like

671
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: maybe that that's a good thing.

672
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: You know.

673
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It's going to be eventually a

674
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: time to crash out. And it's still is saying that

675
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 2: ready for a rebuild, You're ready for rebuild.

676
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: Well ready for a rebuild.

677
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: If you don't want to call it a rebuild, you

678
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: can call it a reload, but you got to call

679
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: it a reload. While if you don't have the quarterback

680
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: at the time, you're still gonna work with Will Howard.

681
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: We drafted him. He's a big body. He was in

682
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: Ohio State. I've seen him throw it to Jeremiah Smith,

683
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: those fade passes. Jeremiah wasn't getting thrown to by nobody else.

684
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: He was throwing it to it. Will Howard threw it

685
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: to him and to the best receiver in college football.

686
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: Look good to me. Let me see what he can

687
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: do in the NFL. He's a big body, you know

688
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. He's not like a small dude short

689
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: can't see over the line. He's a big dude, and

690
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: let's see what he can do during that time DK

691
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: metcalf that extra thirty three million he got suspended, So

692
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: you can avoid that, get rid of it.

693
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: That's another thirty million. They didn't get rid of that

694
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: and do what they can. No, they kept it. They

695
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: they weren't avoiding it.

696
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, God, so they kept it. So you know what

697
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: way to go?

698
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: Who you go pass the ball to?

699
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: You get rid of him, you would have thirty to

700
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: go get somebody else. I'm just saying because I didn't

701
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: think DK was a legit one, no more getting open,

702
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: making creating.

703
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: Space the way that you needed it.

704
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: So if you want to make wholesale changes, that's an

705
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: extra thirty for a number one receiver that I'm like.

706
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: In the defense though, that's where all the money we're

707
00:32:58,920 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: gonna start.

708
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: Look the defense, that's the only thing is we're gonna like,

709
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: like you said, Queen, might have to like just certain

710
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: high value people that are making a little bit of

711
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: money might gotta go.

712
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying.

713
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: So I'm looking like a Duggars contract. He's going to

714
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: get restructured, you know what I'm saying. I don't know

715
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: what they have. We have pieces that we can move.

716
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna speak on the exact names right now

717
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: because I want to do it in a certain time.

718
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: No, no disrespect.

719
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: But stillers can make moves with players and there can

720
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: be things moved around. And if we're talking about rebuilding,

721
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: I reloading, We're gonna have to work on.

722
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: We don't have a franchise quarterback. We have no friends,

723
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: we have no guarantee, we have no franchise quarterback that

724
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: we have nobody that we see as being our franchise quarterback. No,

725
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: that's okay, okay, until we get that, we are just

726
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: floating on the water without a gas or a sell.

727
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: We have no direction.

728
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: We are at the way of whatever the water flows like.

729
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it.

730
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: So you can either rebuild by choice or you can

731
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: be forced to rebuild choice you make force. It is

732
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: up happening through how you play out the course of

733
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: the year and the years, however that may be. But

734
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: I think an intentional, direct focus rebuild will get you

735
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: a better result than having to be forced to do it.

736
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: Now, you scrambling, So what is your moves though, Debo?

737
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: So what is your moves?

738
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 3: Then?

739
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 2: Right now I'm.

740
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: Gonna I'm gonna go with the two I got, I'm

741
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: gonna pick up something in the draft, not high or

742
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: nothing like that, and then I'm gonna fill in any

743
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: spots that I think I need to try and fill

744
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: in that I'm gonna.

745
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 3: End up either letting go or losing.

746
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: And let it play out.

747
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: And wherever it puts us in the draft next year,

748
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: it puts us. Hey, I'm ready. I'm listen. I know

749
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna be down too. I'm trying to tell you listen,

750
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: y'all be listening. We're gonna be down two three years now.

751
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You're gonna be down regardless.

752
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: So it's like, I mean, if I wouldn't just waste

753
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: a pick of saying like, just go get another quarterback

754
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: in the draft.

755
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: No, I'm not gonna do that. I'm saying like, I'm

756
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: a roll with what I got. If it works, it works.

757
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: If it doesn't, it doesn't. But that's what I'm going

758
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: to be with.

759
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, be mad if it don't work, and

760
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 3: doing and all that.

761
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 2: But that's just we got to be getting offensive We

762
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: got to be getting linebackers, we got to be getting

763
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: offensive line. We gotta be drafting other wide receivers. D

764
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: three's positions. During this draft, we need to be getting

765
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 2: these players or bringing in free agents or getting somehow.

766
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: This is when we're bulking up the players of making

767
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: these new guys that were drafting nice because they might

768
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: not be the best of the best. But then next

769
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 2: year then we're trying to know it's just the quarterback

770
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: that we need. Because we buffered the we buffered the

771
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: wide receivers. We've got the fire linebackers. You know what

772
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Joey Porter's still here hooping, you know what

773
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So seeing how people Herbic high Smith, you

774
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Seeing how we move this, who

775
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: gets signed, who gets extended, and the players that we

776
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 2: do bring in at the wide receiver spot, do they

777
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: ball out? Do we get it when we draft? Not

778
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: just throwing out that of the quarterback. No, we get

779
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: a high nice receiver. To see, now if Will Howard

780
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: has a one there and DK still here for that

781
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: for that last year because we didn't get rid of it,

782
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 2: we didn't boid his contract, so we still got DK.

783
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: Then we draft another receiver, we drafted linebacker. How good

784
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: are these dudes? You know what I'm saying, so if

785
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: everybody performs and if you hit right, you're not.

786
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: Going to be terrible.

787
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 2: You have a nice class of young dudes in there

788
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: that are balling with Will Howard and make him just

789
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: hand the ball off, get it to do.

790
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: You understand what you're saying.

791
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: But again, if Will Howard doesn't turn out to be

792
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: that franchise quarterback, but he turns out to be enough

793
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: combined with the offense, defense, special teams, that puts us

794
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: again in medium, purgatory, medium, We're still not going to

795
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: be able to get what we need.

796
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: If you just I can't, you can't, you can't just

797
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: so say so you just want to listen.

798
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm agree with you on this high value contracts that

799
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: we don't feel is getting what we need or it

800
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 1: is too much for where it's at. Gotta go why

801
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: because that opens up a lot of room to be

802
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: able to grab people in free agency.

803
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: This will really to those spots. But this is, this

804
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: is this is a good problem being in lo debot.

805
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 2: If you say, if Will Howard is good and ends

806
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: up playing well with the guys that we have and

807
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: they end up being eight and eight or whatever, right,

808
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: and you know that we just need a quarterback, Like,

809
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: that's the main thing that we can go. We gotta

810
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: we can go get that. Ain't nobody giving up quarterback.

811
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: So we had to trade up in the draft. Okay,

812
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: that's the possibility, you know, once we can start getting

813
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: these picks and accolating picks and no, we got two

814
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: first round picks. We only we got Will Howard's cool,

815
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: but we just need one trade that jone up and

816
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: get to get a higher pick so we can go

817
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 2: get one. If that's the only one thing that we need,

818
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: then we could be able to all right, hopefully less

819
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: for negle it. But if Well Howard is doing cool,

820
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: I think draft and other pieces that we need, not

821
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: just trying to figure out find the quarterback randomly. But

822
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: it's gonna it's gonna eventually happen. I think, not not eventually,

823
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: but next year. I mean we'll see man and we'll

824
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: see how play out.

825
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: Keep an eye watch the watch the two o'clock, you know,

826
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: press and see what well McCarthy talking about hip.

827
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: We'll go.

828
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: We'll go from there.

829
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 3: But uh, what is it?

830
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: Green Law? He said he said it was physical over there.

831
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: He said, he said Peyton, he said that man was

832
00:38:58,880 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: physical over there.

833
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 3: On them bore us. He said, uh, what do you say?

834
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: He said?

835
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: He said, Sean Payton, Oh school, and well he said,

836
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: he told reporters, Sean old school. He's going He's going

837
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: to do six days on one day off. He's got

838
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: he's got his way of doing things. You're going to

839
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: be practicing three hours on winds.

840
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 2: Can you practice three hours anymore?

841
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: Three hours on Wednesday, three hours on Friday? Santa hand

842
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: He said, Uh, he's complete opposite. He wants you fresh. Listen,

843
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: joe yop my first training camp, Bro, when I got in,

844
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 1: we was in training camp for at least thirty days,

845
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: if not maybe thirty three days.

846
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 2: Okay, we practiced twice a day now I'm shells.

847
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: Was helmet and shoulder pads, so it was still full

848
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: of contact. Yeah, just didn't drag nobody to the ground.

849
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: Second practice where everybody come to see with the fans

850
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: out there, Bro, that was full contact to the ground,

851
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: bang this bang, And that still did not prepare me

852
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: for my first full game of play in the preseason.

853
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 3: Dude, No, for sure, never forget it.

854
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: Bro.

855
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: We were playing Detroit in Detroit. It was the third

856
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: preseason game, and I think one of our linebackers or

857
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 1: a couple of that. However, it went and went down.

858
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: So I was the first person to go in after

859
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: the starters were out, and I'm still on.

860
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: All the special teams like all that stuff. Dude.

861
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: That game, I knocked myself out hitting the Listen, Bro,

862
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: I knocked myself out hitting the titment, okay, And the

863
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: timing of it, Bro, was like like I blinked my eyes,

864
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: closed my eyes and opened it. And when I opened

865
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: my eyes, all of a sudden, the trainers were around me.

866
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 3: Yes, on the field. Yes.

867
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: I'm like before I'm like, what y'all doing here? There's

868
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: like you was. I'm like, no, I'm not.

869
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: Yes, They're like, yeah you were. How you think we

870
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 3: got here? Yeah?

871
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 2: But after that game, I called my dad, BRO, and

872
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: I said, I say, Dad, I said, I don't know

873
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: if this game is for me.

874
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: See Chill said, my body feels so bad, so hurting

875
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: right now.

876
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't play what he.

877
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: Said said.

878
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: He said, you'll be all right, got it? He said,

879
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: you just got to toughen your body up to it,

880
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: gotta get used to it, used to it.

881
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: He was right.

882
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 2: Now, for sure, that's old school, Bro, that's old This

883
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 2: new stuff that they're doing now, Bro, Bro, I could

884
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: have played thirty.

885
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 3: Years in this bro.

886
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: And and when when he's saying this debot, he gotta

887
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: I think that's it's literally against the rules. Now though I.

888
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: Don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know. It might

889
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: be some typic, but speaking against the rules. McCarthy now

890
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: McCarthy twenty two and twenty three with Dallas and if

891
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: al find him for ot as being too physical.

892
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 3: So all the so, all them boys in Pittsburgh.

893
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: That was used to you know, getting this day or

894
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: all that that stuff, and now he gonna.

895
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 3: Come in there and he go, he go be like,

896
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 3: I gotta see what I got. I need.

897
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: I need to bring the Pittsburgh back to Pittsburgh here,

898
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh boy. I need to bring the physicality back. I

899
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: don't want to see my guys getting pushed around. I

900
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: want to push guys around here. Gonna bring the physicality back.

901
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: Ain't no better place to do it than Ota. As

902
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: soon as you start, no, I might be catching a

903
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: fine or two, but hey, they gonna be physical.

904
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 2: The game has changed because I remember my first two

905
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: the two of days, de Bo. They will make you

906
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 2: you coming out there and you'll be when you had

907
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: on shoulder pass and helmets. The only difference was you

908
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: weren't into the ground that was full contact. You just

909
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: weren't tackling it. You had to hit wrap that thud.

910
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: You got to stop the tackler. That's almost harder for

911
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 2: the DBS.

912
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 3: I'm like, now you.

913
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: Make it up to break down, control yourself, fit up

914
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: and wrap for sure.

915
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 2: You got to put yourself mistackling we got now, no

916
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: all that arm tackling. No, you had to put your

917
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: face on someone. You had to put your pads on

918
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 2: the man and make sure that that embrace. So I

919
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: understand completely how coaches had that different kind of coaching

920
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 2: style because all that like running in, tagging off, that's

921
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: not getting you. You don't say you're professionals, you know

922
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: how to tackle, but there's nothing like full speed reps

923
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: when somebody can really juke you or run you over.

924
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 2: So you got to be able to come in there knowing.

925
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, you got to come in there ready, not

926
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: like coming there playing. No, no, no, it's not a game.

927
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: That little tag off that's not football ready. So I understand,

928
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 2: like it's a lot harder. But end of the day,

929
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: the injuries and everything, but there's nothing like football. There's

930
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: nothing like going fullards speed and I the teams that

931
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 2: do a little bit more contact, the teams that do

932
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: do a little more hitting, your pads are ready, Like

933
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 2: you can't get ready for hitting.

934
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 3: Besides hitting.

935
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: You know, when I started getting older, like now you

936
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: you know I do, I'm like, man, I still need

937
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: to my pads up a little more than you. You

938
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like so that I definitely understand it.

939
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: But the health part of everything, but there's nothing like

940
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: I love that. You're gonna need your playing. It's a

941
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: long season. So if you can't go, get it in now.

942
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 3: Get your body.

943
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: Ready because all that train and all that warm up,

944
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: all them dB drills that we were doing during the

945
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 2: off season is nothing like when you really gotta come fill,

946
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: when you really gotta.

947
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 3: Come tackle and wrap somebody up.

948
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: And that's what you see though in these young in

949
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: these defenses, when like linemen d linemen, they got it,

950
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: they're engaging. You guys are engaging way more than us DB's.

951
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: We gotta come in there and get active.

952
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 3: And I think the.

953
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: Best teams are the ones with tackling dbs you can

954
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: tell the ones that really wanted there weren't the ones

955
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: that are coming down for that cracker place, the ones

956
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: that really want to smoke. And I think that's from

957
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: they ready for hitting and they used to it, and

958
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: that's what coming like. It's live and dudes looking funny.

959
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's gonna be.

960
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 3: Live in the game. Stop about to come chop this

961
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 3: man down and you trip it. You know what you mean?

962
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 3: It's live.

963
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: We got on shells, helmets, so yes, you get raps,

964
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 1: stop him and then you can let him go.

965
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 2: And then keep them going because we need that pursuit, right,

966
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 2: they keep letting them go because now everybody everybody to touch.

967
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 2: Everybody got to get a thud in everybody.

968
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: Everybody got to touch.

969
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: And what we're talking about, yes, like dude, nowaday and

970
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: like you said, like he said, rather, hey, no school man,

971
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: come on like.

972
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: He probably to the edge.

973
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: He probably to the very edge of it making or

974
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: he don't cross it, because I ain't heard nothing about

975
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: no fine, so he makes Listen. I'm gonna get all

976
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: I can because when it comes down to it, the

977
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: game is played tackling.

978
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 3: Getting people around.

979
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do everything I can to simulate that.

980
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: Every I like that. I can't.

981
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 3: I could.

982
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: I respect the tackling, the thudding part, the making sure

983
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: you put your pads on them.

984
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: I'm loving that, like you gotta.

985
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: That's not people are getting hurt from that when you

986
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: start swinging people to the ground, people getting beats, start

987
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 2: pulling all that. Yes, but if you playing regular good football,

988
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: fitting up, yeah.

989
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 3: That's football.

990
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: You gotta get yourself into that position because otherwise you're

991
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: gonna be looking crazy.

992
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 3: Yeah. And that's the same thing. Like the runner back

993
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 3: is coming.

994
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: He's trying to run through you, even though it's shells

995
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: in there. So you gotta realize when he's trying to

996
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: run through you and when he's trying to run around you,

997
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: and you canna come in there and meet the force

998
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: with the force that he's coming with. Like you can't

999
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: just oh, I'm coming in to tap up gnaw, you're

1000
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: gonna get you get your chest blue out. You're to

1001
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: come in there and thud up on it. Make sure

1002
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: you sure up that tackle. Bro deon over here in Colorado.

1003
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: You finding them boys?

1004
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: Man?

1005
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: Yes?

1006
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 3: Yo? You like you like the new system?

1007
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: Man?

1008
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: I love the system. This is my thing.

1009
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 2: You need to be treated as if you are a professional,

1010
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: like you're getting paid to play now and hopefully next

1011
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: level list practice was always a thing though, Like that's

1012
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 2: scary for me. I was scared to be late for practice, Like, dude,

1013
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: you want to be early to meetings, early to practice,

1014
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: make sure everything is right, like the times if I

1015
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: wake up like my nightmares will be waking up with

1016
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: my alarm and being late to a workout.

1017
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 3: I could that that could really like shock the system.

1018
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: I would think about crashing my car to be like

1019
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: I would think.

1020
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 3: About crashing my car.

1021
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: To be like this, Oh my god, no, coach, we

1022
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: got enough accident. You know what I'm saying, Like I

1023
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: would risk it all instead of missing the meeting because

1024
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: the punishments and the authority like I did not I

1025
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 2: when that's not what I was on. So for Coach Prime, yes,

1026
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: what are where else would you be?

1027
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 3: Where else should you be?

1028
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: You should be here early, You should have your body right,

1029
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: you should be taped like this is the main thing?

1030
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: Is the main thing? Class all that?

1031
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but you're getting paid to come here and

1032
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 2: play the NFL, Like when coach Mangini, that's one thing

1033
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 2: I respected my rookie year, I was a little bit wild,

1034
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: like I just wake oh my god, panicing because I

1035
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: was out.

1036
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 3: No, it was coming. I would be pushing it and

1037
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: contemplating I might have to wreck.

1038
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: Just to be like, oh ma, oh my god, no

1039
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: something happened. But like those are just very very fearful

1040
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 2: times to teach us growth maturity. You have nothing else. No,

1041
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 2: you have to be a professional. You get fined. We

1042
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: would come in that thing. Nobody would say nothing. I

1043
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: would have a fine right in my chair. It's like

1044
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 2: Maximint fifty five hundred dollars if you're a minute late

1045
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: to a meeting. You know what I'm saying, Like Manganie

1046
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: did not play about none of that, so you should

1047
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: I respected it. No, no, no, you know what I'm saying.

1048
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: So like coach Prime doing that, it keeps accountability on

1049
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: the players, and where else should you be Definitely. I

1050
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: remember I was scared to death to ever miss a

1051
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 2: meeting with Irvian Meyer clean. The whole weight room would

1052
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: punish us crazy, Like that was a scariest time ever. No,

1053
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: So yes, coach plans find these kids, because that's what

1054
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 2: you should do. They're getting paid to be here. You

1055
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: should be nowhere else. But don't. I'm not I'm not

1056
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: telling nobody to talk about wrecking their car.

1057
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying how scary it was. I'm gonna

1058
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 3: tell your story. I wanna tell your story.

1059
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want to.

1060
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 3: Okay.

1061
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: So it wasn't me, It wasn't anybody. I know, it

1062
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 2: was somebody I heard of. The point is, I'm not.

1063
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: Gonna let y'all have any clue who this is. But

1064
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: person was late to a meet. There's gonna be late, right, Yeah,

1065
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: So as they're driving to work, they realized they're about

1066
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:39,439
Speaker 1: to be late.

1067
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 3: That said.

1068
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 2: Thousands and thousands of dollars fine, or this five hundred

1069
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: dollars deductible.

1070
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 3: He cut He cut it into a telephone.

1071
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: Hey, coach, I ain't got an accident.

1072
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 3: Hey, I know I'm not tripping. I'm telling you all man.

1073
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: Bruh, yes, bro, yes, yeah, it get like like that.

1074
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: You get like that, get like that, don't do Yeah,

1075
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 2: So coach park keep them and hold them kids accountable.

1076
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 3: I'm all for it. I'm all for it.

1077
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: He ain't finding them a whole bunch anyway. And if

1078
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 1: you can't afford it, don't be late. Don't be late.

1079
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 3: Don't be late. If yo, if yo, what is it?

1080
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 3: Your nil deal? Ain't got that much money in it.

1081
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: You should be early because look the me the.

1082
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: Meeting my kids. If you're fifteen minutes early, you're never late.

1083
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 3: Never be late. You're never late. And Joe, you know

1084
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: you know.

1085
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 2: And there's no class, there's no meetings that are like

1086
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 2: scheduled for you.

1087
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: You won't be able to miss anything.

1088
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 2: Everything is scheduled around your schedule, so you should be

1089
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: able to there's no uh, you're never double booked with

1090
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 2: school and football.

1091
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 3: Ruh.

1092
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: Your boy that pulled out after the Bill's job, he

1093
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: pulled off for nothing. I guess the Bills just promoted

1094
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: the oh C Joe Brady to head coach. I guess

1095
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: Joe Brady's been there with the Bills since twoenty twenty two,

1096
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: starting as Josh Allen's quarterback coach, then becoming the offensive coordinator,

1097
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: and now we'll serve as.

1098
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 3: The head coach of the Buffalo Bills.

1099
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: And Josh Allen, they said, was sitting there on the meetings,

1100
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: so obviously he approved.

1101
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: Some say about this, you like it, you dislike it,

1102
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 2: but they all in realize they all in Joe Brady

1103
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 2: has two years to win the ship. Yes, like you

1104
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, you got You came through with

1105
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 2: the team. Your man was sitting in the morning meetings.

1106
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: Y'all are with each other. You and Josh are together,

1107
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: so I know from Buffalo and your leash is short.

1108
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm happy for you. I

1109
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 2: hope it goes very very well. But this is a

1110
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: situation where the mcderm he got the short end of

1111
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: the stick through you. The ALI up. You don't have time,

1112
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: but like, no, no, it was going to be a

1113
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 2: four year of no. You got Josh prime. Now hopefully

1114
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 2: you can go get whatever you think that you needed

1115
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 2: to make it better or do whatever. But you got

1116
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: two seasons.

1117
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 3: Coach Joe Brady bruh.

1118
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: So now this making me think like was this an

1119
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 2: inside job that he actually go and be like, hey,

1120
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: he ain't doing it right.

1121
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 3: I could do it better, you know, because.

1122
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 1: The owner came out was like, hey, the GM didn't

1123
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: want this receiver, but the coaches did.

1124
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 3: But the coaches too, what's going on in here?

1125
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: Bro?

1126
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 3: What's really going on? Now?

1127
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 2: You feel like it's something it's it's some inside work

1128
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: going on here.

1129
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 3: Bruh, I know, bruh.

1130
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got a little bit of time, brother, he

1131
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 2: got a little of the time. They got to turn

1132
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: up a sap, you know what was The Ravens owner

1133
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: was like, Yo, they have to say, but they ain't

1134
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: gonna have no power to song like his power over there.

1135
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Sound like it's power over there man, you're

1136
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: talking about yea Josh Allen, Yes, the opposite of what

1137
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 2: the Ravens oner said. That man Josh Allen was sitting

1138
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 2: in on the joint and he ain't say nothing about

1139
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: He's got an opinion, but he don't got no power.

1140
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, you have.

1141
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: Josh got a little power here, he said. I want

1142
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: to hear all their opinions, but they have no power.

1143
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I think they might have been sitting next

1144
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: to each other, Josh Allen and the owner and this

1145
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 2: mean Hey.

1146
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 3: Looked at brother, he looked at bro.

1147
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: Bro looked at Josh like, Hey, what you think man, Hey,

1148
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you, hey, or maybe they you know,

1149
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: they the owner just made a snap decisions like yo,

1150
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: get him up out of here.

1151
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: And then when it came down to it, the team

1152
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: was like, yo, how you get him out of here?

1153
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 2: Like he did this, did that, and they was like.

1154
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: Well we can't.

1155
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: Well we get somebody else. We might lose everybody joshing

1156
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: to me, it's like, yo, you know they you know

1157
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: they pissed off. Now you get somebody else. I don't

1158
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,919
Speaker 1: know if I'm gonna be able to get these boys

1159
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: to follow you. But you know, my oh see right here,

1160
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: I know he go call with a won't what a light?

1161
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: Go ahead and give old give old Joe Brady the job,

1162
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: you know, hey, de body, and now I'm the quarterback.

1163
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: Oh see, I just got you this job. Man, Hey,

1164
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 1: let me call.

1165
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 3: What a won't? Yeah? Bro?

1166
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: They they I just I just hope that it works

1167
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 2: out for them then. I mean not not all the way,

1168
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: because they're gonna be having to beat our teams. But

1169
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: Josh Allen deserves it, deserves what well last no this,

1170
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: he did bad this year, he did bad this year.

1171
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 3: He deserves to have power, no no, no, no, no

1172
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 3: no no no, to be.

1173
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: Successful, to be successful, well, he's kind of in control

1174
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 1: of his own success.

1175
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't have to fumble the ball all those times.

1176
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: I just feel bad for him, man.

1177
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 3: Feel bad.

1178
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you feel bad if he was playing against

1179
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 1: you and beat you because he no, I'm not playing though,

1180
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: what's you talking about? Listen here, Joe Man, Well, hey,

1181
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: going to get that wishy side sauce far with your

1182
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: ass boy.

1183
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 3: Life all we got a super check. JJ Carvey eighty

1184
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: he uh?

1185
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: He said, do you think Prime's policy will hurt him

1186
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 1: in recruiting and protocol jumps and portal jumps?

1187
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 3: About the portal jumps, I'm tripping. Yeah, no, yah, I mean.

1188
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 2: I think that he's not finding the kids crazy amounts,

1189
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: not crazy, it's a little bit of bread five and fifteen,

1190
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 2: but like in the days, like I don't think these

1191
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 2: kids are really how many of them are really missing meetings?

1192
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: I think this just gives them more a sensive to

1193
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: make sure Like why you I don't know too many

1194
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: people that have been late to too many meetings when

1195
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 2: I was in school or when I played like college

1196
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 2: ball or in the league, Like that's not really a

1197
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 2: thing unless you know, that's just not something that happens.

1198
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 2: And I think you need to be held accountable if

1199
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 2: you miss meetings. And I don't think this is something

1200
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: that kids would not go to a school for a fine.

1201
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 2: I mean that's I think it's smart, dude. I think

1202
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: I think other schools will will will adapt it. You

1203
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, because.

1204
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: When it comes down to it, the only thing you

1205
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: could do when we missed meetings was punish us with

1206
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: workouts or running. It's usually running, and if you're in season,

1207
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: you're kind of defeating the Purple. You're kind of handicapping yourself.

1208
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go and punish the doud because he was late.

1209
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make him do extra running, do all this

1210
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: other stuff, get up early and have to be there

1211
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: for this and that. And when I'm doing that, I'm

1212
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: actually tearing his body down. And I need going this

1213
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: game and perform at a high level for me. So

1214
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: you handicapping yourself. And when it comes down to it,

1215
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: you really want to hurt somebody? Grab that money, got

1216
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: that money, Grab that money, because I'm gonna tell you, bruh.

1217
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you right now, bro.

1218
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,959
Speaker 1: You want to hurt a man that is making money,

1219
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: anybody that is making money, take their money.

1220
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 3: Like I ain't even fighting no more, brouh, hit me,

1221
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 3: and I'm depending on who he is.

1222
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: I'm go.

1223
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm waiting on Jeff Bezos to just slap me across

1224
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: my face.

1225
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna swear. I can't look at nothing. I can't

1226
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 3: go out the house league, I'm blind, bruh.

1227
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: I need my emotional mental capacity to be able to

1228
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: deal with anything is gone.

1229
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 3: I cannot. I'm gonna need at least. There ain't nothing.

1230
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 2: You just give me one bill, one bill, but you

1231
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: want to do it right.

1232
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 3: I settle out of court right now for half a bill. Yep, yep.

1233
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: I set court right now for half a bill, and

1234
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: tell them how scared I am. Every time I see

1235
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: an Amazon thing I see every time, I just panic.

1236
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: I think you're getting out of it.

1237
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Anybody say a word started

1238
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 3: with a beat?

1239
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 1: Oh just boomed straight up out of control. I can't

1240
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 1: even order from there no more. I don't even I can't.

1241
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: I can't listen. I can't watch TV. Oh I'm going

1242
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 1: in then, Joe.

1243
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 2: Look here, brother, we're going to be back here on

1244
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: Friday talking about you know who, the press conference between

1245
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 2: them balls and see what's going.

1246
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: Down, to see what they say, see what they're saying,

1247
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: and I guess maybe listen, man, I don't understand this

1248
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: pro bo thing.

1249
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 3: Man, Like it's a flag football game. What are the

1250
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 3: d lionan and offensive lineman going to be doing? They

1251
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 3: don't do they do? They got other games going.

1252
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: They pushing sleds and running obstacle courses and all of

1253
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: this stuff is skills challenges, debo. Dude, this is the

1254
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 2: thing that made me dude the first year I made

1255
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: it there they took away the skills challenges.

1256
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 3: Dude. I was getting ready for that, like.

1257
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: I want to do.

1258
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to just bro waiting on the twenty five bench. Bro,

1259
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: I was trying to go in there and push that

1260
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: thing out about forty five times.

1261
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: God, he was going for the record.

1262
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: Oh bruh. I was going for the record. I was trying.

1263
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 3: I was, and then they took it away.

1264
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, that's crazy. That's out of control. The

1265
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,439
Speaker 1: fun part of it. They took out the bench.

1266
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,919
Speaker 2: I see, like they need to do the The bench

1267
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: press was lit and the longest throw for the quarterbacks.

1268
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 3: Bro. I love watching that joint. I could have gotten that.

1269
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: That's what I'm throwing a sixty I'm throwing at sixty

1270
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: five right now.

1271
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 3: No, I'm getting their bit of seventy.

1272
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 2: I'm all right. When I next time, I wait, I

1273
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 2: bet you I'll throw you. I bet you don't, I

1274
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 2: bet I do. Okay, okay, bet bet okay? Ten ten

1275
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 2: ten ten any time push ups is the.

1276
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 3: Best, yes, ten any times. Even on the show, I'm like, man,

1277
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 3: he give me to give.

1278
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: Me two slang that thing, Broh, Like I'm talking you

1279
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: thought that Josh Allen could throw that.

1280
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 3: Bruh. I'm trying to tell you. Flick of the wrists, like, bro.

1281
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 2: You know through for seventy two touchdowns in high school.

1282
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 3: That was high school, Joe. I never threw a touchdown.

1283
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 2: I just threw it long. I was a deep ball champion.

1284
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna see, Broh. I was deep ball champion in

1285
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 2: the Deep Ball League brom.

1286
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: Two thousand from two thousand and seven to twenty twenty three, the.

1287
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 3: Deep Ball League. Yes, I see, I loaned the load

1288
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 3: the ball. Where's the deep Ball League? Bruh. It's big,

1289
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 3: it's big. It's you a blatantly lie.

1290
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 2: All right.

1291
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: It's so underground, bro because people don't they don't be

1292
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:10,479
Speaker 1: wanting to, you know what I'm saying.

1293
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: Like like golf, like the long shot, longest drive, longest

1294
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: dry Yeah, that's it, but it ain't catching on.

1295
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: It ain't catching It ain't been catching on, and the

1296
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: league collapsed in twenty three. That's why I was only

1297
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: the winner till twenty three.

1298
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1299
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: But I held it, man, I held it little day

1300
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: I stepped in until the day is shut down.

1301
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 3: We gonna see we do.

1302
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 2: And I'm still that dude. You can't throw the You

1303
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 2: cannot throw the ball further than me. That's just a

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Speaker 2: frid right.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you, Joe, listen, you probably throw

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01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: like like Peyton Manning did in his last years.

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01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: You had to ask about me, Man, who am I

1308
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 2: ask a rifle? Ain't nobody'd ever seen you throw pounce.

1309
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: He's seen me throw two. I used to throw the

1310
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 2: ball with punps with that gold post game before practice.

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Speaker 3: That's twenty yards, bro.

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01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 2: I used to back it up every ten yards, and

1313
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 2: I used to go back to the fifty gold post

1314
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 2: from the fifty.

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01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 3: That's nothing, that's nothing, Bro.

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01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 2: I was gold.

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01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 3: I was gold posting from the thirty. No way the thirty,

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01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 3: the thirty in, no thirty out No, all right, we'll

1319
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 3: see bro. You up here.

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01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: You playing games, Bro, I'm trying to show you. I'm

1321
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something man like, this.

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01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 3: Is what I do.

1323
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 2: Ball, I throw, I throw.

1324
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 3: I threw on baseball. How fast you throw a baseball?

1325
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 2: See?

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01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 3: I don't know? Wow too.

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01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 2: I had to step away from baseball early. I was

1328
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 2: a pitcher. You know what I'm saying, because I played quarterback.

1329
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 2: I was twelve years old. You know what I'm saying.

1330
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 2: All Star Game, I pitched it. He hit that ball back,

1331
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 2: knocked me right upside, my head, knocked me unconscious. Never

1332
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 2: played again. Oh you got scared. Oh I got to

1333
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 2: put to sleep.

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01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was. I was.

1335
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 2: I was okay, I wasn't. I wasn't as good as

1336
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 2: I am in basketball and football.

1337
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:07,479
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I didn't have to worry

1338
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 3: about that because they couldn't hit it.

1339
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 2: They couldn't hit it. Yeah, you ain't play against the

1340
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 2: players I played against. I played against Julio Ramon though

1341
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 2: it was Sammy Sosa I played against.

1342
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 3: And I played against Barry Bonds.

1343
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 2: I know you didn't. I played against Ken Griffey Jr.

1344
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 2: And Sammy Sosa When I was twelve. I played against

1345
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 2: Barry Bonds Mark Market.

1346
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,919
Speaker 3: Why no, now you lying? Now he lying.

1347
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: I was throwing them heat to get them ready for

1348
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: the professionals. Because they was throwing. I was throwing so fast.

1349
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: They was trying to be like, yo, if I could

1350
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: hit him, I know I can hit everybody.

1351
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 3: Reggie Jackson, who do you think now?

1352
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 2: Lying?

1353
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 3: Hey, my daddy, my daddy. I got my arm from

1354
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 3: my daddy. My daddy was throwing to Reggie Jackson?

1355
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 2: Can you hoop? Can you hoop?

1356
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 3: What are you changing the top of door? Yeah?

1357
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 2: Because you went from baseball, because then we started at football.

1358
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 2: How long all you could think? No way, bro, I'm

1359
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: gonna body you down, devo. I will pull the chair

1360
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:10,959
Speaker 2: off of you, and then if you try to shoot

1361
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 2: out body I'm a pinballer.

1362
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 3: I am I embodying you down. Man, I'm good. I

1363
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 3: did my son.

1364
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 2: That's it. I ain't no more either because he almost

1365
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 2: beat me and I ain't about to lose to you. Okay,

1366
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna do all you know. We're gonna do

1367
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 2: a pump passing kick and we're gonna run the ones.

1368
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you out the way all of that, Bro,

1369
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 2: I could I could kick. I used to be a

1370
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 2: fire kicking and I was straight toe straight toe. I

1371
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: had had the straight toe that had the flat surface

1372
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 2: like that on it. I was banging that thing. You

1373
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 2: you order, you wore the straight toe cleats, just one,

1374
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: just one for kickoff. They had the ballet toe boot.

1375
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 2: That's cheating you. What is you talking about? You want

1376
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 2: my ankle trying to kick it soccer style? No, I

1377
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 2: was just with the straight normal cleats and I went

1378
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: straight up on it with the regular cleats. No, I

1379
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 2: was doing it with the regular cleats, but I was

1380
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 2: only kicking it like like into the five, like five

1381
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 2: yards deep into the goal line. But after I got

1382
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 2: that straight toe, I was kicking it out the stadium

1383
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 2: after back end.

1384
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 3: I'm done with you. I'm done with you, man, I'm

1385
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 3: done with you.

1386
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying to Hey, listen, man, we want to thank

1387
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: y'all for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Yes, listen,

1388
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: make sure you guys like subscribe and download.

1389
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 2: We gonna be back here tomorrow. I used to snap too, Joe.

1390
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 2: I actually snapped. I can't here on Friday.

1391
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 3: I snapped, Joe.

1392
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: I believe that.

1393
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 3: I snapped in the professional game. What about you?

1394
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 2: No, I was a kid actually ran back of I

1395
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 2: was a kick returner and a punt return I was

1396
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 2: a kick returner, a punk returner.

1397
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, gunner, I wouldn't guy.

1398
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: You know, wasn't no gunner. I was no gunner. I

1399
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie to you by that. I wasn't no gunner. No,

1400
01:05:58,320 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

1401
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 3: I was too I was too valuable in the inside.

1402
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: That's why they put me in middle because they was like, yo,

1403
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: we can't have you on the right or the left.

1404
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 3: We need you to be able to get everywhere. So

1405
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 3: they put me in the middle. I was playing.

1406
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: I was playing in a six to one, sitting by myself.

1407
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: Why because I could get everywhere. Every gap was mine.

1408
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 3: Uh huh, whatever you say, Deboy, I see you. They

1409
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 3: called me all gap. They're like, hey, all gap. What

1410
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 3: you got all the gaps? They say, who you got?

1411
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 3: They said, I say, kill everybody, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1412
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 3: hit the gap, filled the gap.

1413
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: Hey listen, Joe at least to playing a little bit

1414
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: of corner too. But then, like I said, they was like, hey,

1415
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: we only got you on one side. Then like we

1416
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: need to make sure everybody. We need to make sure everybody.

1417
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 3: Get you got your pain that you could put out.

1418
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 3: You cad too. You know what I'm saying, to play

1419
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 3: corner debo? Hell what you're talking about? You got way

1420
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 3: too slow to play corner.

1421
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 2: Oh you're talking about after I got into Yeah that's

1422
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 2: what happened.

1423
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly what happened. Yeah, you got too slow.

1424
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but you know I was doing I had

1425
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: a couple of years off I got you know, I

1426
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: had some things going on.

1427
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 2: But anyway, hey look here we're going over. We over over,

1428
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 2: but we go be back here Friday. Yes, yes, yeah,

1429
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:30,959
Speaker 2: we're gonna watch this at.

1430
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: Two o'clock and let y'all know what's going on, what

1431
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: we see, what we hear from it, what what triggers.

1432
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 3: Are thoughts and the thoughts so and why?

1433
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 2: And we're gonna be right back here, yo, catchy' all

1434
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 2: on Friday, baby,