1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: What's up is Way Up with Angela Yee and this 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: is exciting for the first time on Way Up with 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: Angela Yee. 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: I know this man a long time, but he's finally 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: on Way Up. 6 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 3: I was trying to be the first guest. 7 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: No, you were, you know, you're all over the world, 8 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: but a kN is here and you have a group 9 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: that is now signed a convent culture we got sheesh. 10 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 11 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: And you guys are brothers. 12 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, and so Lex So you guys are 13 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: from Chicago, but you kind of grew up. 14 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 5: No, not kind of. We grew up in Elkhart, Indiana. Okay, 15 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 5: so what but we was born in Chicago. 16 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So did you spend time there? 17 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit? 18 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 5: Sixcept we moved when we was young, about seven eight 19 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 5: years old to Indiana. Elcart, Indiana, and we grew up there. 20 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: That's the place I've never been to. 21 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 1: Okay, if you have to describe it, I mean I've 22 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: seen the video, so I get a bit of a fiel. 23 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: Was that your first time going there? Okay, so tell 24 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: me about Elkhart and what's that? What's that like? 25 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,319 Speaker 5: I mean, it's like a little small melting pot. It's 26 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 5: only fifty thous some people. But you know it's people. 27 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 4: From Chicago, Gary, Detroit, you know what I mean. It's 28 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: like a small mountain pot. 29 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 5: You know, it ain't that big, but it's a little 30 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 5: bit of everybody there, you know what I mean, from 31 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 5: the Midwest. 32 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 3: It's a small big town. 33 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,279 Speaker 4: Yeah. But you know, we just we just we're putting 34 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 4: on for it, you know what I mean. 35 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 5: It never really got put on on the map in 36 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 5: a major way, you know what I mean, because it's 37 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 5: so small, and we were the first to do that. 38 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: Only person that the city out. 39 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and we ain't make no announcement. They just 40 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 5: we couldn't do it, couldn't. 41 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 3: The cameras. 42 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's always fascinating to me to see 43 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: how groups get discovered, right and so akon how did 44 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: you find she? 45 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: Like, how did they come to your attention? 46 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? Well she was word of mouth. You know. 47 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 6: I had a few guys that I was working with 48 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 6: the industry, working on you know, copyright songwriters. Good friend 49 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 6: of mine at the time, Bow who's doing and off fours, 50 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 6: was like like, Yo, you got to meet these kids, 51 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 6: super dope writers, super artists, and they produced they three 52 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 6: sixty as soon as I heard directors, I was. 53 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: Like, she. 54 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: Three sixty has a bad name. 55 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm talking about creating. 56 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I was like, they do it all And 57 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 6: I love that because you know when that's the first 58 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 6: thing I look for is hard workers and how much 59 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 6: of their own stuff that they actually do. I prefer 60 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 6: one hundred percent. But if they could do half, I 61 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 6: can get them the other half. But for the most part, 62 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 6: they was able to do it all. 63 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 3: So it was perfect. 64 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: The art of A and Ring is so different now. 65 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: I feel like then how it used to be, like 66 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: when you first got in the game, if you had 67 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: to think about how you had to find an artist, 68 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: But now you know, it's just so it's so much 69 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: easier than have Eventually you. 70 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: Do have to fly out and you have to meet 71 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: in person. 72 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, you got like and art. I don't think the 73 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 6: process of it has changed. The dynamics change because now 74 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 6: everyone's searching for numbers. They're just looking to see who's online, 75 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 6: who's streaming, who's popping right now, who's going viral. 76 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 3: But to me, that's just a moment right now. 77 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 6: The artist itself is that artist worth anything that's going 78 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 6: to be sustainable for the rest of their career or 79 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 6: something that's gonna be around long enough to even get 80 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 6: your investment back. And that's what I look for. I 81 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 6: think the virality aspect, that's just a matter of being consistent. 82 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 6: Eventually you're gonna go viral. If you get the right 83 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 6: talent to go viral, then it was all worth it. 84 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: The song Ghetto Living, that's also it is your song 85 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: remade remix. And I know you had said you were 86 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: redoing your older catalogs as well. You have all your 87 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: masters right, and so you were able to get a 88 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: great situation. So tell me how how does this work? 89 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: So is this a She's song or is it an 90 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: ACN song featuring She? 91 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's a she and a console. 92 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 6: But interesting enough, Illness is the producer of this track, 93 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 6: and he decided because they was looking for samples to actually, 94 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 6: you know, figure out, and he thought about it. 95 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: He's like, man, listen, I can get this clear. 96 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: They really surprised me. They surprised me heard. I was like, 97 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: oh shit, nobody's flipped ghetto yet. 98 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: It sounds good and the lyrics are amazing. I had 99 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: actually before you guys got here, a mana was here earlier. 100 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: He's good, but I was playing and he didn't know 101 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: what it was. I was watching the video and he 102 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: was like, ooh, that's hard. Hold on and he had 103 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: to turn everything down just to hear what you guys 104 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: are talking about on that particular song that dope. 105 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 7: Yeah. 106 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: Love, And so your story is also interesting as brothers. 107 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: You guys ended up being locked up together. Yeah, and 108 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: while you were there though it didn't waste any time, 109 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: it actually worked. So just talk to me about that 110 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: period of time and bigskey, I got to ask you 111 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: to s pitch a gum out because I know I 112 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't be me. 113 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 4: He used to wake me up when I was sleep 114 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 4: and be like, let's write. Let's right, let's write. 115 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. And I was learning how 116 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 5: to write. He had already had his neck and you know, 117 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 5: his schemes and how he wrote it was already formed 118 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 5: and stuff like that. But I was still being talked. 119 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, he was bunkies in the joint 120 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 5: for what like almost a year. Yeah, and this is 121 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 5: at a time when we had like it was at 122 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 5: the beginning of our bit, so we had eight more 123 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 5: years to go. But just to you know speak on 124 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 5: what he was saying, Like I used to wake him up, 125 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 5: he'll be dead, sleep like sleep, and we got all 126 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 5: this time left wake him up. We'll fight all that, 127 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Because I'm just not for real, 128 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 5: because I'm like, bro, We're not going to be locked 129 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 5: up forever, right, you know what I mean. 130 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 4: We got outdates. 131 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 5: This is our dream. This is what we got to 132 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 5: hone our skills while we ain't here. 133 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 134 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 5: We've been rapids since we was kids. I talked hibou 135 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 5: the right when we was kids. But it's just a 136 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 5: matter of having faith. Like a lot of people talk 137 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 5: about the talent, but you gotta have faith. Like it 138 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 5: was a lot of crazy stuff going on while we 139 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 5: was locked up, a lot of heartbreak, a lot of pain, 140 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 5: a lot of struggle with our mama, and you know 141 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 5: what I mean, But you just got to be able. 142 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 4: To have faith and see past that and see your future. 143 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 4: And now we're here. 144 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 2: You know, I know, your job, your mother crazy during that. 145 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 4: Time, a lot of heartbreak. We broke our heart, you 146 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: know what I mean. 147 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: But we learned from it though, so so talk to 148 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: me about what happened. 149 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: You didn't go in at the same time. It was 150 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: two different. 151 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 4: Nah, we got locked up together. 152 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: Oh together, okay, And so we was kids, just young 153 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: and dumb, right, young and dumb, just doing you know 154 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: what I mean. 155 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 5: And that's why I can't like a lot of times, 156 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 5: like when they be asking how did it get started. 157 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 4: And how did it form? I can't answer that. 158 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 5: I always let him answer because I this last time, 159 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 5: they had already had their relationship and I was still 160 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 5: in the joint, you know what I'm saying. So you 161 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. He was out here making noise 162 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 5: while I was in the joint. And then when I got. 163 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: Out, I had to do the halfway house. 164 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 5: I had to do house arrests and then probation and 165 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 5: then fly to Atlanta, and then you know what I'm saying. 166 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 4: It was a little It was a little what I 167 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 4: had some ways to go before, you know what I'm saying. 168 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 5: She was even thought of, But we was always like, 169 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 5: when you get out, this is what we're. 170 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 4: On, you know what I'm saying. And it worked out. 171 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: Why the name she sh I mean, he named that. 172 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: What were y'all playing with before that? We didn't have 173 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: a name. 174 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 4: As a duo. 175 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 5: We didn't have a name. It's just Ellens biscuit. This 176 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 5: is my little brother moved down here with me, you 177 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 5: know what I mean. We just got the grinding. And 178 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 5: when I introduced my brother to him, he literally was like, 179 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 5: y'all name sheesh. You know, hearing the music, he always 180 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 5: reacted to like that, to like sheesh, Like I'm saying. 181 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: That's real. 182 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 5: And then it's like, you know a lot of people 183 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 5: hear the music and react the same way. So it 184 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 5: just he was just like, yeah, this is it. 185 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: It's probably got a better situation to be in because 186 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: a Kin, You've worked with so many different artists and 187 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: helped guide the careers of so many people. I feel 188 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: like I've always felt like you had an amazing story, 189 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: not even just in the music business, but outside of 190 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: it as well, just as an entrepreneur in general. How 191 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: important is it for artists to be entrepreneurs also because 192 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: sometimes people just want to create music and focus on that. 193 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: But I feel like in this day and age, you 194 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: can't just do that. 195 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: No, it's impossible. 196 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 6: You know, the most successful artists and the ones that 197 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 6: have a sustainable career are the ones that understand the 198 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 6: business of it, you know, like I tell him all. 199 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: The time, this is the music business. 200 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 6: The moment you exclude the business and it just become 201 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 6: all about the music, you're going to be the discroller rapper. 202 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 6: Talk about this dude stole my publisher and I ain't 203 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 6: got no money. So you don't want to be that guy. 204 00:07:58,640 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 6: You want to be in a position to know that 205 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 6: it's only gonna last, but for so long. So you 206 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 6: got a small window to take what you invested. I mean, 207 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 6: take what you made and invest it in something that's 208 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 6: gonna last a long time, or build some kind of 209 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 6: value within that finance that you made to create income 210 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 6: for yourself even when you decide no more that you're 211 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 6: gonna be doing music anymore. So that's very, very important. 212 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 6: So we talk about that all the time. 213 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: How was your deal structure so you were able to 214 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: have your masters and everything, because that's not something I 215 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: feel like back then. 216 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 6: No, it was impossible back then, and to me, it 217 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 6: was just a matter of time, you know, renegotiating, finding leverage, 218 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 6: slowly but surely pulling one percent back until I was 219 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 6: able to get it back. 220 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 221 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 6: There's no difference from when Jay got to death. Jam 222 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 6: and they really wanted him to get that job, and 223 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 6: he's like, well, this is an open window for me 224 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 6: to get my master's back. 225 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: I'll take it, but I need my masters. That's part 226 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 3: of negotiation. 227 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 6: So you find always find those little pockets where you 228 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 6: can have that little extra edge to them, you know, 229 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 6: just you know, to leverage to get whatever it is 230 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 6: that you own that they've been you know, utilizing to 231 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 6: make money forever on you. 232 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: When you guys were figuring out what your partnership was 233 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: gonna be, like, were there other people coming to you 234 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: like are the labels already? Because you know clearly y'all 235 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: were buzzing already. 236 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 4: I mean it's a. 237 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 5: Couple people that was very interested, you know what I mean. 238 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 5: But this we connected on a on a on a 239 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 5: on a lot of different levels to where like he 240 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 5: really feel like a big like a blood big brother, 241 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 5: like his big brother, Like this is I could talk 242 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 5: to him about anything, you know what I mean. 243 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 4: And it's just it was deeper than the music and 244 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 4: deeper than business, you know what I mean. 245 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: How are the lines though with being because some people 246 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: will say, like you have to understand and labels, it's 247 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: business too. 248 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: Right at the end of the day, and some artists or. 249 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: Some people that run labels don't like to have like 250 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: a business conversation. 251 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 5: He teaches though, like I'm gonna I'm gonna keep it 252 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 5: a bean, like a completely hunted like he keep us. 253 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 5: I mean, he keep us on point. We keep ourselves 254 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 5: on point too. But he won't have take to give 255 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 5: us the gang. They give us the gang. 256 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 6: You know, they have to know that, you know what 257 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 6: I mean, because if they don't have no information, then 258 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,119 Speaker 6: they won't understand what I'm doing for them. And oftentimes 259 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 6: when you're lost, like prime example, I think the one 260 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 6: mistake that Baby probably made with little Wayne was that 261 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 6: Wayne didn't have enough information on the music business, because 262 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 6: had he been taught the business of it, they probably 263 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 6: still be together. Because what happens is when you don't 264 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 6: have all the information, you got other people giving you information, 265 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 6: or you start seeking for other people to give you information, 266 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 6: and those people start, you know, kind of putting that 267 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 6: virus in your mind. They give information within that ad 268 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 6: on other things that may be even more detrimental to 269 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 6: what you already build. And everybody's giving you that green 270 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 6: of grass that they're offering you on the other side. 271 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 6: But if you know the business, you already know the 272 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 6: color of the grass. Now does no matter who's going 273 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 6: to be my lawnmower to help me maintain that grass? 274 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes I think, but like I was saying earlier, 275 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: some artists just want to like I've you know, worked 276 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: in the music business on the label side of things, 277 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: on the management side of things. There are some artists 278 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: that are like, I don't even I just want to 279 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: do what I have to do. And that's just always chess. 280 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: That's never a good thing. 281 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 6: It's like that's when you're successful and you become lazy 282 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 6: and all that. But it's when you're doing great, it 283 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 6: don't really matter because you're making more money than you 284 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 6: can count. But it's when that money start to wear 285 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 6: that's when that problem. That's when you're gonna be like, damn, 286 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 6: I should have paid more attention. Oh man, I hired 287 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 6: this person. I shouldn't. If I should have been paying 288 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 6: more attention to my numbers over here, I should have 289 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 6: registered this I was. So then that's when it all 290 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 6: caught comes caving in. When you're in a position where 291 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 6: you start to. 292 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: Need it, and you know, you guys being brothers and 293 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: obviously you and your brother Boo have worked together extensively. 294 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: I guess y'all do have like a lot of things 295 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: in common. You can relate a lot, like you said 296 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: to their story. 297 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, Actually one of the main reasons why men L 298 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 6: got close was I saw his relationship with his family. 299 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 6: And I mean, like we we I mean, as an African, 300 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 6: we come up under a family structure, you know, like 301 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 6: the older brother is always doing that guys their younger 302 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 6: brother and gives them the information to and protect him 303 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 6: in the whole process. Like even with Boo, I was 304 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 6: always there to make sure that every situation he was 305 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 6: in was the right situation to excel him because him 306 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 6: being where he's a also protects me right. So but 307 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 6: how you see, you know L With Ski, it's the 308 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 6: same dynamic, like I'm always like I don't be ear hustling, 309 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 6: but I'm always hearing L, you know, giving Ski some 310 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 6: game like no, watch this, look out for this matter 311 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 6: of factlet's do it this way a little bro like. 312 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 6: So it was always it was that dynamic that actually 313 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 6: gave me like I understood who he was as a person, 314 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 6: and then I seen in his relationship with his mother 315 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 6: and his kids and everything else. 316 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, me and him wanted to say. 317 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: In retrospect, when you think about the guy, the time 318 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: that you guys spent together actually working, you know, maybe 319 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: there's a reason. You know, they always say there's a 320 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: reason that things happen. Yeah, and who knows, if maybe 321 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: that wouldn't happen at that time, you wouldn't even be 322 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: one hundred. 323 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 2: Sometimes you might not even be alive. 324 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 6: I told him, I said, Yo, the time that y'all 325 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 6: put it, God was preserving y'all, because had y'all been 326 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 6: out you probably even want to make you probably won't 327 00:12:59,480 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 6: even made it. 328 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 5: No, man, that that we needed that like that changed 329 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 5: our life for the better for sure. 330 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 6: And then me visiting our court and seeing that area, 331 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 6: I was like, oh, yeah, God, because that it's different. 332 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 3: It's different. 333 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: It's different, I guess a very just from looking at 334 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: the video, it feels very mixed, like all different. 335 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just saying that it is. 336 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 5: It is very It's it's like you find a little 337 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 5: bit of everybody there, even though it's so small, you 338 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 5: know what I mean. But like I said, we needed that. 339 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 5: I became a better writer in there, you know what 340 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 5: I mean? I left for almost a thousand songs, but 341 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 5: damn they I wrote. 342 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 4: All like that. 343 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: Thousands. It feels like a movie or something like that. 344 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: Have you thought about writing for other people or would 345 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: you want to do that? Oh? 346 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that. That was the way that I mean, 347 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 6: that's honestly. I set them up as writers first, and 348 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 6: then when I realized, okay, they got enough copyright, Okay, 349 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 6: now let's put out your own record, and then all 350 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 6: we need now is that one hit and all that 351 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 6: stuff is gonna make sense because one thing, you know, 352 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 6: how the game is, once you got a hit record, 353 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 6: everybody come calling, everybody and now you got they got 354 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 6: a box full of records, just dishing ouse. 355 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 3: That's what I did. 356 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 6: That's why nobody couldn't catch up, because by the time 357 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 6: I had that one hit record and everybody kept coming, 358 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 6: I had enough to supply. 359 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: Just keep coming. 360 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 6: They just I mean I had lines outside of the studio 361 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 6: with brown paper bags. 362 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: It was like it was it was that time. So 363 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 3: you gotta be you gotta be ready, you know. 364 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: Being forward thinking. I know you're also planning to do 365 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: this country right album, and you do have a song 366 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: out now with a country artists. 367 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know Gary Levox, he's he's the lead singer 368 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 6: of one of the biggest bands on country bands called 369 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 6: Rascal Flats. So yeah, me and him came together. He's 370 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 6: actually executive producing my re release country album for all 371 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 6: my classics, so I brought him on board, so he's 372 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 6: connected me with all the who's who's in Nashville. I 373 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 6: want to do it right, though, I say, that's like 374 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 6: a country artist and you don't do a hip hop album. 375 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: Man, he got to come through the trenches and do 376 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: it right, you know what I'm saying. 377 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: So what country artists could do a hip hop album? 378 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 7: Though? 379 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: I think boozy? 380 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, So talk to me about I do want to 381 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: hear a little bit more about this country album because 382 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: I know it's something that you've said you've been working 383 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: on for a while, but now it feels like we're 384 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: on this country wave. 385 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, And it's crazy because I kind of feel guilty 386 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 6: that I'm in a position now to do it when 387 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 6: the wave is there, because I always wanted to do 388 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 6: it before, like I like, but I was going through 389 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 6: a lot as far as kind of rediscovering my my 390 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 6: legacy too, because you know, I stopped doing music in 391 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 6: twenty ten when I went to Africa to do to 392 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 6: guest hosts for the World Cup and host that, I 393 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 6: ended up not coming home for a while because I 394 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 6: end up going straight to Nigeria and that's where we 395 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 6: start developing the whole afrobeadings, you know, doing the sign 396 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 6: A whiz Kid and Peace Square and developing that whole 397 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 6: movement too. It kind of took years because then from 398 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 6: there I was also developing the African I mean the 399 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 6: Acon Lighting Africa project with all Electricity, So that business 400 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 6: side took took up so many years of music that 401 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 6: by the time I came back on the side to 402 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 6: get remotivated, I was like, man, I'm gonna do what 403 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 6: I want. 404 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: So I started doing Latin albums. I was doing. 405 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 7: Dad Man, I was everything, trying to take. 406 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 6: That genre I haven't touched. I've touched literally, and I 407 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 6: got to hit record. 408 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: In every genre literally, what about jazz? Jazz? I don't 409 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: like jazz, that's the one. 410 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: Really I'm surprised at that. 411 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 6: I hate jazz mainly because my dad was a jazz musician. 412 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 6: Het me under it, so he used to force me 413 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 6: to go with him to all the shows studios, so. 414 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: He has like trauma from that, I think as a kid. 415 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: No kid likes jazz, right, so when you're forced to 416 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 3: love it. 417 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 6: And then it was interesting because later in my years 418 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 6: when Quincy Jones became more like a mentor for me 419 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 6: as a producer, and he's a jazz guy. 420 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 3: You know, he's a jazz guys, right. 421 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 6: So he introduced me to a another side of jazz 422 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 6: that I didn't even know existed. So I kind of 423 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 6: slowly liked that side a little bit because it's more musical, 424 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 6: it's more relaxed. Because the jazz part I was in 425 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 6: it was like world Saxophone Quartet, where everybody did what 426 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 6: they wanted to do. 427 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: That was no structure, like it was crazy like. 428 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 6: So I came from that side of it and I 429 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 6: just couldn't understand the organization in it. But then that 430 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 6: was that's when they were saying that jazz, that type 431 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 6: of jazz is freestyle where anybody just does whatever they 432 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 6: do and that's the art of it. But I like 433 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 6: organized music. I like to hear chords, strings, you know. 434 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 6: So then Quincy kind of brought me to that side, 435 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 6: so I understood a little better. But then there they 436 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 6: don't respect you if you don't read music, and you 437 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 6: didn't come up under no, you know, Yale or some 438 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 6: kind of you know, Berkeley University. You have to have 439 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 6: an accolade to be respected in that side of jazz. 440 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 6: So that ain't really was you know. But yeah, for 441 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 6: the most part, I've touched really literally every genre. 442 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: You know since you brought up spending time in Africa, 443 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: and I know, and I do want to adjust the headline. 444 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear your side of things because 445 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: that so they put out this whole thing with the 446 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: city and Senegal and how now that didn't happen. 447 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: It was a huge undertaking. No, it's happening, okay, So. 448 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 6: Just to be very clear, Acon City is under attack. 449 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 6: The concept of what this dream means to Africa is 450 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 6: so big that it's shaking up a lot of agendas 451 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 6: in Africa because a lot of people don't know that 452 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 6: Africa creates more millionaires than anywhere in the world. The 453 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 6: only thing that's stopping in Africa from developing on the 454 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 6: level that it needs to develop to compete with the 455 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 6: international world is unity and confidence. Right the younger generation. 456 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 6: Right now, seventy five percent of Africa is under twenty 457 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 6: one so our youth future and what Africa is to 458 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 6: become in the future based on the elements that we 459 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 6: actually literally control today. 460 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 3: Africa is the future. 461 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 6: The only thing that can keep Africa under captive in 462 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 6: the Western world to continue to rape Africa the way 463 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 6: it is is for people like me with dreams like 464 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 6: this not existing because it motivates us to do the 465 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 6: same thing in different countries and not on that, but 466 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 6: it also motivated us to all come together and actually 467 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 6: bring about change of this magnitude. Right, So, anyone that's 468 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 6: in construction or anyone that just used basic common sense 469 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 6: knows that it takes twelve months to maybe fifteen months 470 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 6: to build a normal house. 471 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: We're talking about god. 472 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 6: A city with high end high rises, major structures. I mean, 473 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 6: it's just the studies alone took two and a half 474 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 6: years before construction even began. 475 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 3: Right, So there's a lot that's happening within it. 476 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 6: But I'm realizing there's a lot of agendas also that's benefit. 477 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 6: If this project don't happen, they can't physically stop it 478 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 6: because they have to go to Africa to stop it, 479 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 6: which they can't stop an existing ongoing project, but the 480 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 6: way they can damage it is through media excyber warfare, 481 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 6: because these are things that the average person don't go 482 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 6: physically to go see what's happening. So they're utilizing all 483 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 6: this media to try to discredit the project and make 484 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 6: it seem smaller than it actually is, to kind of 485 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 6: just take some of the power off of it. Because 486 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 6: I'm telling you if this, if this project or I 487 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 6: live to see it finish, Africa's gonna be changed forever. 488 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 7: Right. 489 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: I do feel like now you see so many more 490 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: people traveling there and wanting to go different places, people 491 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: talking about investing in real. 492 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 6: Li and this is all due to the things that 493 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 6: we've done, all the way down to creating festivals and 494 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 6: African Americans going back to Ghana for the year return. 495 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 6: This is all things we develop. So they're seeing that 496 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 6: we're now coming together in uniting. This is the world's 497 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 6: worst fear because the moment Africa come together, our people, 498 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 6: African Americans, a diaspa come together, the game is over. 499 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 6: Like we literally become the superpower of the universe. 500 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: So you still have that land because I know in 501 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: the article it was like, oh, we took the land. 502 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 3: I can't take what they don't own. That's my land. 503 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 3: How you gonna take my land? 504 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 2: You know what I'm like, that hasn't happened in the past. 505 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 7: That can happen. 506 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 6: But Africa, when you own it, you own it from 507 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 6: the tutor to the Buddha. Like even if I struck 508 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 6: oil in my land in Africa, that's mine. In America, 509 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 6: after three feet under the great six feet on the ground, 510 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 6: you don't want it no more. The government takes it 511 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 6: so that sam. 512 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 7: Yes, it's secretly it's a lot. 513 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 3: As I'm saying, it's a lot. It's a lot to it. 514 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 6: But for the most part, Acon City is a dream 515 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 6: that nobody you can't kill a dream and a process. 516 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 6: This now, this is the part where the people have 517 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 6: to realize what's real and what's not. Because if you 518 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 6: see three thousand negative ads and not one positive one, 519 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 6: you got to know that there's an agenda going on somewhere, 520 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 6: you know, all. 521 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: Right, well good, I just wanted to clear that out. 522 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: I don't like to bring no negativity. 523 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 6: But I was no, no, but yeah, actually negative because 524 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 6: it's not negative though it's actually positive the way I 525 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 6: look at it. It just continues to market it because 526 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 6: when it actually goes up and people are invited and 527 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 6: I start hosting people, all those ads are gonna look crazy, right, 528 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 6: So I don't worry about I'm more focused on the 529 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 6: end product versus what's happening today. 530 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: We're going to everybody, well as far as have you 531 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: all traveled yet. 532 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: To Senegal, to Africa, anywhere I have it? 533 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 4: Okay, it was beautiful, did you he was still? He 534 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 4: was still? I was still locked up. I went to 535 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 4: Senegague and he just led the way, you know what 536 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 4: I mean. 537 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 2: I was just what was that like for you? 538 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 5: It was beautiful though it was a lot of uh, 539 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 5: a lot of I just seen how people lied about Africa, 540 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 5: like you know what I mean. 541 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: And you're like, well damn, they got way more. 542 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 4: No, I'm gonna tell you something that shocked me. It 543 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 4: was the cars. 544 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 5: Like you know, it's messed up cars everywhere America, El 545 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 5: Card here, whatever. But like I seen like a lot 546 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 5: of nice foreign cards, like you know what I mean, 547 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 5: A lot of like Benzes, Beamers, you know what I mean, and. 548 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,239 Speaker 4: Stuff like that. And I was just like, Okay, well 549 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 4: they riding clean too, you know what I mean? 550 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 7: Like you know that. 551 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 5: That's That's what messed me up a lot, you know, 552 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 5: what I mean just saying, you know, it was what. 553 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: You saw painted to be. 554 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it was. It was. It was beautiful though. 555 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: And so how much longer were you locked up while 556 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 2: he was home? 557 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 5: I think I did, like maybe like a year a year, 558 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 5: some change more than you the first time. All right, 559 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 5: So he we were locked up, I did six years, 560 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 5: he did seven years. 561 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 4: He got out in twenty fifteen. Yeah, and I went back. 562 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 4: He went back for a violence. I went back for 563 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 4: a violation. It was there two years, two years. So 564 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 4: then he got out in twenty twenty two to two. 565 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 5: And then he did a year on house arrest and 566 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 5: then probation, and then I moved him down there with me. 567 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 5: So he's technical from his second stint. He only been 568 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 5: out for a couple of years. 569 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 2: OK. 570 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, literally like two years and some change. 571 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 5: But when I got out, I like, as soon as 572 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 5: I got out, he moved his studio up to Indiana 573 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 5: because he picked me up from the joint. So I 574 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 5: recorded like that first little mixtape, because I got out 575 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 5: with two mixtapes, So I recorded one like as soon 576 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 5: like while he was up there for like a weekend 577 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 5: or three days or something like that. 578 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 4: So as soon as I. 579 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 5: Got out, I got to work, but I was on 580 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 5: house arrest, so I just had to you know, thug 581 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 5: it out to let me go. 582 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: How is your patience during that time and. 583 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 5: What it was like? You know, really it was like 584 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 5: I knew it was crunch time. You know what I'm saying. 585 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 5: I had to we gotta make this happen, you know, 586 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 5: no more messing around, you know what I'm saying, playing games. 587 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Out here in these. 588 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 5: Streets or whatever whatever it was. I was all over 589 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 5: the place, you know, at first. So you know what 590 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 5: I'm saying, I'm glad we're here now. 591 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 7: Yeah. 592 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 4: No, it's a blessing, major blessing. 593 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: Like to have the opportunity and know you cannot like 594 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: you said, you can't play around. 595 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 596 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 5: I used to tell him, like when I moved him 597 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 5: down here, I just looked at him like, you know, 598 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 5: I got kid. 599 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 4: He just had just had. 600 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: His first Yeah, congratulations. 601 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 5: Found motivation for him because I have had to get 602 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 5: him on some big brother like look, I'm grinding, you 603 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 5: know what I mean, But like you gotta we got 604 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 5: we both got a mama that need us, you know 605 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 5: what I mean. 606 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 4: Not just me, I got one, you know what I mean, right, 607 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 4: we both. 608 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 5: You need to be matched my energy, you need to 609 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And when I moved him 610 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 5: down to Atlanta, like he got straight to meet he 611 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 5: just listened and just he zoned out. 612 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad you just said grinding because it 613 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: made me think of the grinding freestyle. 614 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, guys did. 615 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: And and you know, was there any influence on you 616 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: guys because being brothers and the Clips just put. 617 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: Out a great new album. 618 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, you know as well. So I thought 619 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: that was cool that y'all did that. 620 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, man, push you actually flew back together from France. 621 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 6: We was out there for the for the fashion week, 622 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 6: and we flew back out. He was telling me the 623 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 6: project was just dropping and he was heading back to 624 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 6: promote it. 625 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 626 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: One thing he don't do is hold his tongue about anything. Yeah, 627 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: if something happened, he was gonna tell it. 628 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 629 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 7: We grew up. 630 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 4: We grew up listening to the Clips, you know what 631 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 4: I mean. 632 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 5: We get the comparison all the time, and I mean 633 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 5: we cool with it, you know what I mean. We 634 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 5: just we're here to raise the bardo, you know what 635 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 5: I mean, right, we was getting those comparisons before we 636 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 5: was even a group. 637 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a fact. 638 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 2: That's funny. 639 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 5: For we've even been getting it all out, Like you 640 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 5: know what I mean, it's a bunch of similar. 641 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 6: I should see two brothers actually equally dope, Yeah, exact 642 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 6: and actually together. Yeah, moving on the same path like 643 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 6: most brothers always compete. 644 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, y'all ain't have that problem. 645 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: You guys sometimes are interchangeable in the situation. 646 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: I mean, you go do the thing for me. 647 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 3: It's all leadership. It's all leadership. It's definitely leadership, you know, 648 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 3: because right now Bo is an executive. You try to 649 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 3: be a better executive. Meet. 650 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: Listen, I ran into bool working with Kanye, and I 651 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: know that was stressful, but but you. 652 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 6: See it now, you know. I mean it was things 653 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 6: that me and him used to debate about all the time. 654 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 6: And now you're like, damn, bro, you was right. 655 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 7: You know what. 656 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 6: Damn, I see what you mean now. But that's why 657 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 6: I love that experience to be. You know, once you 658 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 6: once you get the experience, then all your lessons actually 659 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 6: you feel good knowing that they're actually now soaking in 660 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 6: because oftentimes your parents will tell you or you won't 661 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 6: understand what I'm doing until you start having kids. Yeah, 662 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 6: when you have kids, you understand why because oftentimes you 663 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 6: be thinking your parents are tripping. 664 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, you're right, you know, and your kids. 665 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 3: Like, damn, I get it. You got a whole nother 666 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 3: respect for your parents at that point. 667 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I feel like a lot of people was 668 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: giving Kanye's team a hard time and being like, oh, 669 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: why his team ain't but to understand that, like, sometimes 670 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: it's just nothing you could do, Like what am I 671 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: You know, he's a grown man. 672 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 7: How can I do? 673 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 674 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 6: You know, you can only do it with things that 675 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 6: you can control. You can't control another man's brain. 676 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: And it's crazy to be so talented but then just 677 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: have so many different things, oh man, you know happening, 678 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: and it makes people, you know, at the end of 679 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: the day, like it could turnish somebody's legacy to have 680 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: done so much and lay down the groundwork and had 681 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: so many classics, and then later on in life it's 682 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: just some than to think about, like how do you 683 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: want to be remembered? 684 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 6: That's the key, and I think we should always remember 685 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 6: that even moving in because oftentimes, like especially now, is 686 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 6: the most dangerous time for legacies, for future legacies because 687 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 6: a lot of these people that's out here, most most 688 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 6: of the younger generation disease. I think they're doing so 689 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 6: much just for views, or they're doing so much to 690 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 6: go viral, not realizing what you're building today, that what 691 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 6: you're doing right now is going to be what destroys 692 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 6: or make you in twenty five years when you're trying 693 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 6: to build that legacy. 694 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 2: You right about that. 695 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: When I go talk to kids in school, one thing 696 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: I always tell them, I'm like this social media. You 697 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: know how they bring up the old tweets man of 698 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: you talking crazy. We just seen that happen on Love Island, right, 699 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: you know. And you know, sometimes that's why I always 700 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: feel like people act like I don't like social media 701 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,239 Speaker 1: because you destroy yourself what you write on there. 702 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: You don't have to put everything on there. 703 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: Something feel like maybe I shouldn't do this, then don't 704 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: period if you have to think about it. 705 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 6: First thing is if you feel like you have to 706 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 6: race it or you go back to you there, it's 707 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 6: worse because it shows that you raced it, because. 708 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: That's the first the deleted it. 709 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 3: But this is what they deleted and You're like, but. 710 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm talking about It's like, I know you're not talking 711 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: about me. 712 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 3: It's very crazy. 713 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: This is like a moment I know you don't even 714 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: touch nothing. 715 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 4: Talking to you. 716 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 3: I don't understand crazy. 717 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: So what do you see happening for Shesh in the future? 718 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: What's the what's the plan? 719 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 4: Things? 720 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, go ahead, amazing things like I mean, I feel 721 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 5: like all the doors is opening up. Just do off 722 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,959 Speaker 5: the hard work that we put in, you know what 723 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 5: I'm saying, a lot of times, just going to sleep 724 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 5: in the morning time when it's when it's when the 725 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 5: birds is chirping, you ain't been sleep yet, just perfecting something, 726 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. I just know I feel 727 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 5: in my spirit that is good, good things to come 728 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 5: for Sheesh. I don't really know any you know what 729 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 5: I'm saying, crazy like things into the future. I just 730 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 5: know that we dropping tapes every two months or something 731 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 5: around that area. 732 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 733 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 5: We giving the best content, you know what I'm saying, 734 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 5: And we're gonna give y'all our best. 735 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: When you guys think about all the music that you 736 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: did before, like you said, you had like a thousand songs. 737 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: What type of you know, if you have to think 738 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: about some of the themes and things that were going 739 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: on when you were writing, what is it that you 740 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: would say that music was like for you, I. 741 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 5: Was just writing from a place of like hunger and determination, 742 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 5: like right, so I didn't like sing so much in prison, 743 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? 744 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 4: Being involved, you know what I mean, just. 745 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 5: Just surviving and just going through what I was going 746 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 5: through as a kid becoming a man in there, Like 747 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 5: I just knew that I can't this ain't it. 748 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 4: I can't do this for the restaurant. 749 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 5: Then just us breaking our mom my heart like you know, 750 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 5: we love you know what I mean, Like we Mama's boys, 751 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 5: low key, you know what I mean. 752 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 4: And it's like. 753 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 5: Just from I just knew that life this can't be life, 754 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 5: Like it gotta be more to life than this, you 755 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 5: know what I mean. And I knew that I wasn't 756 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,239 Speaker 5: gonna feel I knew. I was like you know how 757 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 5: fifty had get rich of doatrone, Like it was like 758 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 5: that's literally like I will wake him up, like hey, 759 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 5: I don't give that. We got seven years and six 760 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 5: days and thirty two hours, Like okay, we can write 761 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 5: for another hour. 762 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 4: Kill another hour off that time, you know what I mean. 763 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 5: Like, that's what literally what type of time I was on, 764 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 5: and I just knew that we I'm not gonna fall, 765 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna feel you need that type of reality, 766 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 5: like and you know what I mean, even though that 767 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 5: was my reality, My real reality was in my mind, 768 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 5: I seen myself on stage. I seen me and my 769 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 5: brother being successful, buying on my house, you know what 770 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 5: I mean. And you just gotta make that your reality, 771 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 5: not them closing the gate talking about some or opening 772 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 5: the gate talking about some child, you. 773 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 4: Know what I mean. 774 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 5: And you gotta sacrifice a lot, you know, just know 775 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 5: that come with it. You just got to sacrifice, you 776 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I don't want to say you 777 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 5: got to lose something, but just know you got to sacrifice, 778 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 5: whether it's time and time energy, you know you know 779 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 5: what relationships. 780 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: Relationship definitely one man. 781 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 6: I tell everybody the hardest part of success is managing people. 782 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you can't control what anybody else does. And 783 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: then sometimes it's hard because you have a sense of loyalty. 784 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: You feel like you're a bad person if you're not loyal, 785 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: But sometimes you loyal, you know, for the wrong reasons. 786 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: It can't be so loyal to somebody else that you're 787 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: not loyal to yourself. Where you put somebody else above you, 788 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: or they keep on proving you know how bad and 789 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: toxic they can be for you, and you feel like, well, 790 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to be that person that let me 791 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: give them another chance. 792 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: And you make excuses, you know, for other people. 793 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 5: I've read somewhere said, you know, you pick the wrong person. 794 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 5: You know that could set you back for out of 795 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 5: ten years. Yeah, you know, if you mess around with 796 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 5: just the wrong person is wrong. 797 00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 798 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got some brothers here, man, I got. 799 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 4: I got him forever. 800 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 5: This's my you know what I mean, it's my heart, 801 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So we we we ain't 802 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 5: gonna we know we got each other. I think that's 803 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 5: like an advantage, like when you're working with somebody, it 804 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 5: could be your best friend. But like and not to 805 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 5: say brothers don't beef or none of that. Yeah, but 806 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 5: I'm saying a lot if you if y'all really locked 807 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 5: in and really got that I want the best for him. 808 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 4: I know he want the best for me. It's seamless. 809 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,239 Speaker 5: It's like well, you know what I mean, we were 810 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 5: gonna always move the right way. 811 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 2: How did you tell your mom you guys were getting 812 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: a deal. 813 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 4: How did I tell my mama? Uh? I think I 814 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 4: think it was on FaceTime? 815 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I facetimed because she wasn't moving, she 816 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 5: wasn't living down there. She lived with us, now, you 817 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 5: know what I mean? Well with me and uh, I 818 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 5: just she just was excited. But she she real spiritual, 819 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 5: so she always knew we was gonna like do something and. 820 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 4: With music and make it in music. 821 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 5: She always shout out to my mom and popped out 822 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 5: and being spiritual. 823 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: I will say the music has a bit of a 824 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: gospel type of yeah. 825 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, man, Like when you hear that album tho, Yeah, 826 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 6: it's gonna touch you. It's gonna touch that was done. 827 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was done. It's gonna make people cry. 828 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. 829 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 6: It's the records that's gonna make you remember why music 830 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 6: was so impactful in people's lives. 831 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, we need that, that's what we need. 832 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, we need that. 833 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 5: And we ain't just got the bars the melodies on there, 834 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like it's real melodic to 835 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 5: with the bars, you know what I mean? 836 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: It's the three sixty without a three sixties. 837 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 4: You're gonna know why we do it too. 838 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 5: All the reasons why we do it is on the album, 839 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 5: my kids, his son, you know what I mean. 840 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 4: Like, you know we real you were transparent, you know 841 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 4: what I mean. 842 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 5: You're gonna be able to hear and feel everything and 843 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 5: it's real related, you know what I mean. 844 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, put on the map. 845 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, in a major way, in a major way. We're 846 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 5: putting on for LCRD for sure. 847 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: Well, congratulations on this. I cannot wait to hear the project. 848 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 6: Is there a date or well, I'm gonna be announcing 849 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 6: the date soon. 850 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 7: Okay. 851 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 6: I wanted to drop the single first and see the reaction, 852 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 6: see where we was going, because I like, now I'm 853 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 6: utilizing the data to my advantage. 854 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: Of course, you are one thing. 855 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 3: Like nothing about one more week. 856 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,959 Speaker 6: I have enough data to be able to say, Katy, 857 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 6: we're dropping on this day, going on tour. 858 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: There we go. 859 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 2: You know, cities are responding in this way. 860 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: I saw you're talking to TMZ about AI, which is 861 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: such a touchy subject for people. 862 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 3: You know. 863 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: Timberland had to kind of like and I've seen labels 864 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: sign an AI artist and then change their mind and 865 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: backtrack because people are nervous about technology. 866 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: But like you said, but you. 867 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 3: Gotta embrace it. 868 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, you gotta embrace the technology like because either you're 869 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 6: gonna roll with it, it's gonna roll over you because 870 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 6: technologies it's coming. 871 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 2: Yeah and a I's been here for a while. 872 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: It's just now people are figuring out different ways to 873 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: use it. It's getting more widespread. So I know you 874 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: have plans already. What you have no idea you make 875 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: more money from music or other like other ventures. 876 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 6: Music is just a vehicle to get to the money. 877 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 6: I use music to promote the things I'm making money on. 878 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, all right, well listen, keep that business savvy 879 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: about you because I feel the same rate. It's my 880 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: day job. But we got to use this to get Yeah, 881 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: you'll be driving to get to the cast. 882 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 7: You get it, all right? 883 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: Well, thank you guys so much. I appreciate y'all for 884 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: joining me. You know, it's been a long time coming. 885 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: But I love to see it and the song is 886 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: absolutely amazing. So for people if you haven't had a 887 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 1: chance to go watch the video and listen to it, 888 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: I told you, like I said, I put it on 889 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: MAINL had no idea what I was listening to. 890 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 2: He was like, Oh, what's that like? 891 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 7: Turn that out? 892 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 4: So it follow. 893 00:36:59,480 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: Me? 894 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, please follow me at a big underscore ski a 895 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 5: O N s k I b I G s k I, 896 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 5: and then follow me at l N S Underscore A 897 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 5: O N and follow our group page at Underscore Convict 898 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 5: so s H E E s H Underscore Convict with 899 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 5: a K. 900 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 6: Right, and if you forget all of that, just go 901 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 6: with acon dot com or at acon on any platform 902 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,479 Speaker 6: wherever you see me and she doing anything, video or whatever, 903 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 6: just tag that. 904 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 3: You'll see I tag them and you can follow them 905 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 3: from there. 906 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, All right, well thank you so much. Again. 907 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: Are you gonna do? People were asking, are you going 908 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: to do smack that as a country song? 909 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, got to hear what that sounded like. 910 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 3: Listen. 911 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 6: Why I'm so excited is because, see, a lot of 912 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 6: people don't know that my first album was all done 913 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 6: with a country state of mind. Okay, before before I 914 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 6: was gonna R and B, I was gonna go country. 915 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 3: Wow, like because in Africa, country is huge. 916 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 2: Okay I didn't know that. 917 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, So a lot of my music was written with 918 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 6: a country mindset. Just I just put hip hop beats 919 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 6: on them. So now when we take them same lyrics 920 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 6: and put them behind country music, it fits, really fits 921 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 6: like a glove, like this record I just did with 922 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 6: with with Ross uh. 923 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 3: Josh, Josh. Okay, so we redid right now now now right, 924 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 3: you gotta. 925 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 2: Change right now. 926 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 7: Okay. But you said I was just fit. You couldn't 927 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 7: even tell just fit right in. 928 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 2: It just seems I can't wait to hear smack. 929 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 3: That so crazy, you got to hear it. I can't 930 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 3: wait to drop that one. 931 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 7: All right, Well, thank you again. 932 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate you absolutely. Next time, Okay, we like that