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Speaker 1: for now all by myself. UM as Pat McAfee, hopefully

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Speaker 1: tease and peas up to our girl Carrissa Thompson. She

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Speaker 1: next week she is going to have one hell of

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Speaker 1: a story for us. Um. I won't give that away,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I look forward to that next week. But

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Speaker 1: because we love everybody so much, and thanks for tuning

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Speaker 1: back in to Calm Down Podcast with Aaron and Carissa, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you got me. And I'm excited because we called in

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Speaker 1: an emergency favor and Chris is going to be piste.

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Speaker 1: We uh we called our end. I'll be all the

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Speaker 1: goat the Michael Jordan's of Sideline reporting of being a

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Speaker 1: female in this crazy ass industry of sports broadcasting. We

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Speaker 1: called it Melissa's stark and I, like I said, CHRISA

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Speaker 1: is not going to be happy that she is missing

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Speaker 1: this because Melissa is uh somebody that I know, Chris

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Speaker 1: and I look up to very very much. The first

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Speaker 1: Emmy's in New York City. I just joined Fox Sports,

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Speaker 1: and let's let's bring it back. I mean, I knew

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Speaker 1: I think it was when Melissa started um on ESPN

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Speaker 1: I remember thinking faith Hill was really hot and big

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Speaker 1: since then we exchanged phone numbers. Chris and I are

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Speaker 1: earning it while he was you know, Patriots, but it's

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00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 1: just a totally different style. Um. But I think you know,

429
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 1: I think it's funny that they just lost. You know,

430
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 1: it's not funny for them, but the Brady coming off

431
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 1: loss is like the worst thing, the bad loss. Right

432
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 1: you were there, you were you were like, there was

433
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: that was my sideline. Yes, um, you know when he's

434
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 1: the leading rusher, right, he's the leading it's it's not good.

435
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 1: But I think him coming off a loss and then

436
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 1: you know, I was watching him say, you know, he

437
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 1: knows exactly what the wind's gonna feel like when he

438
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 1: goes there. He knows exactly what you know, everything, like

439
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: just the whole feel of when he goes back there,

440
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 1: what that's gonna because he's so you know, his attention

441
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: to detail and his chastianism. But I think it's exciting

442
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: that it's come. I don't love the whole I don't

443
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: love the whole talk and dynamic of Belichick versus Brady

444
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: and the whole thing, because I don't think it needs

445
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: to be like those two pity they accomplished what the

446
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 1: twenty years? Okay, twenty years a long time, right, Aaron T.

447
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: I've been married twenty years and I'm not saying I'm

448
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: ready to walk away because I'm not not even close

449
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 1: today exactly. Um. Three kids like that, I think have

450
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: COVID right now. Three God love you for doing this.

451
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 1: It's a little stressful at times, but that's a long

452
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 1: time to be with somebody, right, And you know, I

453
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: know that they they just didn't They had a certain

454
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 1: type of relationship right a business and and that's the

455
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 1: way Belichick is, right, and you know, they play golf together.

456
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: They wouldn't do much, you know outside of and I

457
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 1: don't know, you know what coach and player do a

458
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: ton outside it, but they just had that that relationship,

459
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 1: and so but I'm excited for him. I'm excited for

460
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: Brady that you know, he you know, like live it

461
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: up after after accomplishing what he accomplished and earning all

462
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 1: of that what was your sweat and anxiety level when

463
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: you would talk to Belichick at halftime? Mine is an

464
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: all time high. I mean it should be a deodorant commercial.

465
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 1: It's like out of control. I can't call myself similar

466
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: you and I could compare notes of who just give me?

467
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: Who did to you? Anybody? Oh my gosh, of all people?

468
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: And I work with him now, Steve Maryuchi, like he

469
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: was what is my favorite? But he was? You know,

470
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: you'd have a guy I would always say, Oh my gosh.

471
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: Herm Edwards would be like, you don't need to run,

472
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: slow down, you can. It was just so kind, right, Melissa.

473
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: There's no bra support out there that makes running after

474
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Speaker 1: a coach look at I mean, I want to say

475
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: to them, I'm holding my cliffboard and running like, hey,

476
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: can you do me a favorite? Like you don't want

477
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: to fall, you don't want to slip. You look like

478
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Speaker 1: a buffoon. So I love that about her. Okay, what

479
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: else is amazing? Yeah? No, I mean the funny thing

480
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: is is also that I said to you earlier like that.

481
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: I feel like I wish I could go back now

482
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: with the confidence that I have and go back because

483
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: I did want a football at six or twenty seven, right,

484
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: Like you can get bullied a little bit, right, And

485
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: now I think it's the flip side where I would

486
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: just I just wouldn't take it, right. But then okay

487
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: personally for me, for me, it was hard, you know,

488
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 1: covering like Major League Baseball, like all these it's being

489
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: single report and I don't know how you felt about it,

490
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: but you feel you need you need these guys numbers.

491
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: You feel weird asking for their numbers because it can

492
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: be completely misconstrued. Right. I remember standing around like batting

493
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 1: practice with some guys and I think there's like hostake

494
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Speaker 1: and sake or I don't know, mark require a rise, right,

495
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, how like it is so going to

496
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: be even misconstrued when I asked these guys for their numbers. Um.

497
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: And then doesn't it piss you off when reporters go

498
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,719
Speaker 1: on air mail and then say I was texting was

499
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: so and so last night? And I always think if

500
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: I ever said that in a report, it would be

501
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: like you like, you know, it's like, yeah, like I

502
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: was talking to so and so late into the night.

503
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Yeah, there's all these like you know, double

504
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 1: standards and everything, but I'll never forget Andy Reid. And

505
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: he said it on air, Andy Reid. The week before

506
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: they you know, say, they'd had like a three touchdown

507
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: lead at halftime, ended up losing, and the exact same

508
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: thing happened that week. So I said, you know, coach,

509
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Speaker 1: I gotta ask you. You know, it's half time, you

510
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: gotta And he's like, I can't believe you just asked

511
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: me that. And he told me later he came up

512
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: and apologize and he said he was stroking and al

513
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: Michael's you know, as I threw it up to I

514
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: was like, of course she asked him that, like, of

515
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: course she has to ask you. You reported that or

516
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: that was live was But to this day, any to

517
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: this day will up and say, you know that was

518
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: I was just joking. I'm like, well, okay, no, it

519
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: was written about in every paper the next day. No

520
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 1: one thought you were joking. Um Belichick. So Belichick, you know,

521
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Speaker 1: I think just because we all started out together, like

522
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 1: you said, um, because I really started Monday and football.

523
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: It was two thousand and and Brady hadn't even you know, begun.

524
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: He would It was crazy. I would go in the

525
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: locker room at halftime and he wouldn't say, like we

526
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 1: weren't allowed to say that we were in the locker room.

527
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: But I'll, you know, I give the report and then

528
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: I would say straight, you know something code were like

529
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: straight from the locker room, you know, or something like that.

530
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: But I had some pretty I had some good access there.

531
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,239
Speaker 1: But still I still get I don't know how you

532
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: are you and I've talked about this, I still get

533
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,719
Speaker 1: nervous when I interview any I don't know. I just

534
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: I don't like when people shut me down. I also

535
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: don't like controversial interviews. I don't like putting people in this.

536
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: A lot of our job is kind of putting people

537
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: on the spot. Are asking like the really, yeah, I don't.

538
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: I don't that that still makes me like squeamish, which

539
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,959
Speaker 1: would be hard, which is hard for probably because it's

540
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: our job and is what we do on a daily basis.

541
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: But if you feel the same way, oh, I totally do.

542
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm not there too. It's not that I'm not there

543
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: to break stories, but I just, yeah, I hate asking.

544
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: You gotta do it. You have to ask the tough questions,

545
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: but you don't want people to feel like you're a

546
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: pain in the act. Or be make them uncomfortable. But

547
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, obviously you being who they

548
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: you are, everyone knows you have a job to do.

549
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: I feel like such a fan girl right now asking

550
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: these questions. People ask me, but favorite interview while you

551
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: worked Monday Night Football? Favorite interview while I worked on

552
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: the night football? Also? Was Brett amazing? Because that is

553
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: my favorite player growing and so yeah, I was he

554
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: amazing because I feel like I watched so many interviews

555
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: with you and him, and I just was like, Okay,

556
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: this is what I want to do. Brett's hot and

557
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: cold because well this last Super Bowl, he thought he

558
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,239
Speaker 1: was having catchup and he had like to bask right

559
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: before we were doing an interview of all the Hall

560
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: of famers and stuff. He had he just ingested. I

561
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: can't remember. I think it was too bask. It was

562
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: something very good. He was all red and sweating and

563
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: we were laughing really hard. Um. He would either hang

564
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: out with you, you know, at the facility and everybody

565
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: and just kind of want to hang around for hours,

566
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: or he was sort of I don't know, I don't

567
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: know if he gets no, I don't know. He was

568
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: sort of hot and cold. Um, I mean don't get

569
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: me wrong. I just think, you know, it depends when

570
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 1: you like the times you hit these certain players and

571
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: like what's going on? Yep. So it's just funny how

572
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: you know. Once well, I remember going back to I

573
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: think it was I think it was Hostaken Sack or somebody, um, yes,

574
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: and he said, you know, did Peter Gammon's right all

575
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: your I came in. It was one of the first

576
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: things I've ever done, and he said, you know, did

577
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: Peter Gammon's right? All your questions? And you just gotta

578
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: like and and and and thankfully Aaron, because of I'm

579
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: not saying because of you and me, but just you know,

580
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: women that came before, hopefully you know now it's commonplace, right,

581
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, there's an era where I

582
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: covered a made for TV golf event and like, you know,

583
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: guys like Tiger and Sergio they get it. They get

584
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 1: that we're a part of all of this, and like

585
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: what a made for TV event? And Jack Nicholas, you know,

586
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: said something like you might be pretty to look at,

587
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: but your standing, you know, way too close to my

588
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: line or something like that on t V. So you

589
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: know that's somebody listen, that is I just think you

590
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: and I know that that is like part of everything

591
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: that we dealt with, just had that thick scan. I

592
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: meane times have changed a lot in the last couple

593
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: of years. Times have changed and that man be tolerated.

594
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: Uh Um. But you know it made it made me

595
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you stronger. I mean, it wasn't mean

596
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 1: to do. It wasn't fun to go through it at

597
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: the time. Um, But but you know what then, I mean,

598
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: we were really like women in a man's world totally.

599
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: So it just takes you know, it takes I think

600
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: it takes time, like anything used to that. Who I

601
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: mean besides Belichick, who else was your like? I mean

602
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's your favorite, but I always like

603
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: and I'm so envious how you can get him who

604
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: was so great to you? Um, who was always be

605
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: so you know, thankful and grateful for right. I mean,

606
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: I think, well, the whole thing, and I'm sure you

607
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: find this like with the whole Monday night football name

608
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: behind you. I could call anybody and sort of saying

609
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: this is any college coach. I could call anybody, Hey,

610
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: it's okay. Yeah, I mean, and that's why I say

611
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: I wish you know social media had been big back

612
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: then or other things had been big back then, because

613
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: then you could really sort of like taken, I could

614
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: have much more so taken advantage of that whole platform.

615
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: I feel like, god, that's so interesting because I hate it.

616
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: Like I mean, obviously it's had a good and bad

617
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: effect on my life, but that I never thought of

618
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: that for you. You know that's so interesting. Well, well

619
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: you might hate it, and I do think it's incredibly draining,

620
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: and I think it's very very invasive. I mean, I

621
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: think it's incredible, like what you do. And I mean

622
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: Carrissa is like constantly I remember she would I think

623
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: I texted her when this happened. So we have a

624
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: seminar every year for NFL in Augusty do you hear this?

625
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: And they put her off like they said, like they said,

626
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: examples of someone who brands themselves really well, and they

627
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: put Carissa up there. You know, it's incredible how you

628
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: guys have like branched out in your clothing line. I'm

629
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: so proud of you for all of I mean, it's awesome.

630
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: But going back to you know who, and I just

631
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: did um sort of. I did an interview for a

632
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: documentary on him, But um, he's not someone I covered you.

633
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: Someone I worked with was John Matten, though I have

634
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: to say it's on Madden. Came up to me at

635
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: first and he said, you know, I never valued the

636
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: sideline position until I worked with you. And he's like,

637
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: and it was just, you know, here's this larger than

638
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: life guy who has had just this Hall of fame

639
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Speaker 1: career as a coach, then broadcasting and all. You know,

640
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: people knew because I was on the now you're doing

641
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: I think some Madden stuff, but like, yeah, so I

642
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: would you know, little kids would know me just from

643
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: the video games Football. We did the video game and um,

644
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: you know, and he took me under his wing and

645
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: just was the kindest, most fun. We had so much

646
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: fun because of his claustrophobia. You know that we were

647
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: always on the Madden Cruiser, always going around and you

648
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: know what that's like, just the camaraderie. I mean, I

649
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,479
Speaker 1: see you with your whole crew, and that's your family

650
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: of our lives, right, this family. So when you're on

651
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: the road and you're living like that and to have

652
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: those kind of experiences, it just makes it, um, you know, incredible.

653
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: So to answer your question, like, I don't think anybody necessarily,

654
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, sort of stands out other than you know,

655
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: Madden and kind of cool and of views, because everybody

656
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: talking about that that Monday night Football, which was the

657
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: highest rated show in tell Time. Behind you, it's sort

658
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: of this whole thing in and of itself. You've touched

659
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: on this a few times, and I want to leave

660
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: you with this, and then you have to promise to

661
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: come back when Chris is on, because again, I I

662
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: mean twenty three Michael Jordan's is our everything, but you

663
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: are right up there with him, and she's going to

664
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: be so pissed about this. But I didn't want to

665
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 1: tell her you were coming on because she would make

666
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: her feel worse. You just keep talking about the things

667
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: you wish you had known about, or someone you know

668
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: could give you advice about later in your career, maybe

669
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: enjoying it a little bit more. I'm there, what kind

670
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: of advice would you give or anybody? I mean, I'm

671
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: always asked what would you advice would you give? Women

672
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: starting out? But I want women starting out and women

673
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: that are hanging on at forty two years old, and

674
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: I wait, did you just call me a hanger Honor. No, no,

675
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: I am I'm the hanger, Honor. I'm the hanging on

676
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: at forty two. But I love that you said. I

677
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: can't wait to hear what you would recommend to Aaron Andrews. No,

678
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm serious. You know, I look up to you so much.

679
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: But I'm interested in what kind of advice Molistas Stark

680
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: has for anyone in this industry. Oh, for anyone in

681
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: this industry. What I would saying is, you know, the

682
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: biggest key is um talking to everybody you can, and

683
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: and and knowing what you're talking about, especially for where

684
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: I mean, because I think women can get into this

685
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: industry for the wrong reasons or just thinking Okay, hey

686
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: it's fun and I want to be on football and

687
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: all of that. But I think you know, like you

688
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: and I were just talking about getting those phone numbers

689
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: and having those relationships and forming all of that. And

690
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: I've been lucky to do that, you know, over twenty

691
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: plus years, you know, with football and and so of

692
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: you and so developing those contacts and relationships and and

693
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: you know, earning respect. It's everything you and I have

694
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: just talked about, like the challenges and and and people

695
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: will challenge you constantly, constantly, constantly. You've got to be

696
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: ready for that. You've got to be prepared so that

697
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: you don't fall when that happens, right. And I think

698
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: when I first started out of it ESPN, we had

699
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: sort of like a talent someone who taught you. She said,

700
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 1: what's your job? It was sort of a quiz and

701
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: I don't think I answered it right, but she was like,

702
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: the answer was to get the story, like to get

703
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: that nugget, like that nugget. And I just remember the

704
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: first game that I did, and it was a Patriots game.

705
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: What was it? Yeah, what was the first game he did?

706
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: So it was the Hall of Fame game. I did,

707
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. That was the first game that

708
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: I did for Monday Night Football was Hall of Fame.

709
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: And so it was it was Dennis Miller, it was

710
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson, right, it was Dan Fouts al and um,

711
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: it was way back in the day when we had

712
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: those that huge team on one and oh my spoof

713
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: on It's so funny because my on Saturday Live and

714
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: my friends, my friends thought that they're like, you've made it,

715
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: you know, because I played you on Saturday Night Live.

716
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: Who played you? Um, it was my It was really

717
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: early on my Routolph like he's like my sweat he

718
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: was like, and my sweater sets from Um, I didn't

719
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: remember the brand whatever, but I would always we were

720
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: we were. It was ra Floren that like you, I

721
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: always had sweater sets Club, she said, and I was like,

722
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: what is Club Monico? I don't even as I don't

723
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: have Saturday. I live on my my resume at all.

724
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: So that's so freaking awesome. Like, okay, so Hall of

725
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: Fame game, Yeah, go on. And the thing is, I

726
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: can't even find it. I think it's on like a VHS, sir.

727
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: I I. I was trying to tell my kids that

728
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: I was on Saturday, and they're like, wait what I

729
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: can't find But um okay, So Hall of Fame game

730
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: and I found out from the Patriots that they had

731
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: find their players. Um he it was for I can't remember,

732
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: like if anybody walked in one minute, let's just say,

733
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: I can't even remember, because once you have kids, I

734
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: think you forget everything. But they find their players for

735
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: something like crazy, like no one could believe it. And

736
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: the fines were like, and I don't know why. It

737
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: was such a big nugget, but like defind like a

738
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five thousand dollars and I didn't think

739
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: it was that big a deal. And Freda deli Are

740
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: producer was like everyone's jaws dropped and they thought and

741
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: I was like, Dennis could have it, Dennis can have

742
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 1: fun with it. Take it. You know, They're like, this

743
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: is yours and this is and so I guess that

744
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: was like one of those you know nuggets. It's one

745
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: of those things you know, no one else has that

746
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: because of relationships and because you've talked to people, and

747
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: that was that was less common in those days, right,

748
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: Because now I say to you social media and the

749
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: relationship and and you know you have so much more

750
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: access I feel like to these athletes and you know,

751
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: so much more. But in those days, you know that

752
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: that was not as common to get that kind of

753
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: information light. But that's so that would be my advice

754
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: to anybody is like, you know, you constantly would have

755
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: the information that you know somebody else doesn't, right, you

756
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: always have the infort that somebody else doesn't stop. I

757
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: love you. How how's NFL three six to you going?

758
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: You just talked to my boy Devin White, and I

759
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: need to watch that one. Do you die for him?

760
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, be careful on those horses, get down off

761
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: this side of the road. Devon White an amazing guy.

762
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: And when he went through and then just like his horses.

763
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: Like so for people who don't know, you know, he

764
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: lost his his stepbrother when he was thirteen years old.

765
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: It was his best friend. He died in the car accident.

766
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: And so for him, those horses. I mean, everybody knows

767
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: about the horses, but frim, it's not it's not just

768
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: a hobby. It's it's like part of his soul, you know,

769
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: it's read to cope with the loss of his brother

770
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: and the whole thing. And uh what what a great guy.

771
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: And we you know NFL three sixty is like it's

772
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: like a throwback because I I can barely get my

773
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: kids to watch it because you know, everyone has a

774
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: d D right now and like, what have you done

775
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: from me? And then they're like what, I'm gonna sit

776
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: down and watch a six minute piece. But it's like

777
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: I get to go back holistic pieces that um, you

778
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: know I used to do, like outside the lines for

779
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: you and and you know, you get to dig and

780
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: you get to see different sides of these people and

781
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: and these players, and um, they tug at your heart

782
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: these stories. You know, I cry at half of the

783
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: things that we do. But um, yeah it's really cool.

784
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: But but you know, it's a nice mix with like

785
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: I'm going, oh, I'm going to London next week. You

786
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: are hard makeup on the London sideline? Girl do I

787
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: what did I do? You have hair and makeup? That's

788
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: that's the text, Crisa, Melissa and I have where's your

789
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: hair and makeup? Three way? The three ways? By the way,

790
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: I just I just found somebody great for you. And

791
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: you have some in New York, but I just found something.

792
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: I'll take everything. Yeah, it's great to find something. Nowadays

793
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: with COVID, they want they want one person to do it,

794
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: and it's hard to find for all those women, it's

795
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: hard to find one person that can do both. Um.

796
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: So I found hair and makeup. And that's where I

797
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: was hit with the football in the head, Like years

798
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: and years ago. I was just so happy that I

799
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: liked my hair makeup on the day that I was

800
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: hit in the head, because I kept replaying over and

801
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: over again, and I was like, yes, at least I

802
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: like them. I liked the Yeah, I'm going back over there. Okay,

803
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: I'll be watching and we love having our o G

804
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: on the sideline. Melissa's dark and I I know, I

805
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: get it. I get annoyed when girls are like, I've

806
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: watched you forever, but your skin, your hair, your outfit,

807
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: all of it. I just bowed down to you, lady.

808
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: You should be doing moisturizer commercials. You look like you're like,

809
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: what is your secret? I don't even really, I don't know.

810
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not into all those Are you into

811
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: like products and all sorts of things and you try

812
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: things out? Okay, you yeah, but but I'm still a

813
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: guy like I can put like the same crop on

814
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: my face and call it a day. Like I don't

815
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: know how to do anything, So I don't know how

816
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: to do And that was the hard thing during COVID

817
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: is having to learn how to do Yeah, and I

818
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: did not know how to do a thing. Um when

819
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: when we're lucky enough, I should say it all all

820
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: the why we are so lucky to get our hair

821
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: and makeup and that is like a favorite part of

822
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: the job. But we're sitting there. I'm usually sitting there

823
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm I'm getting last minute information or

824
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 1: I'm going over scripts, or so I don't have time

825
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: because I thought, how do I not know how to

826
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: do this? But I'm really not paying attention exactly. So UM, well,

827
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: I like you, I love seeing you. I love you

828
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: so much. Thank you for uh for coming on last minute.

829
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: I uh, this was emotional for me. I feel like

830
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: I'm going to have a little bit of a cry

831
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: on the treadmill. Now. You are everything we have to um.

832
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: The last time the three of us were in person together,

833
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: we had a great Houston and so yep, yep, and

834
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: so hopefully this year, hopefully figure it out. We have

835
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: to get to give you a when we big hug

836
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: and kiss on your aeek and uh. I know how

837
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: much I love you and how much I still look

838
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: up to you, and I can't thank you enough for

839
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: just making it look so beautiful. This is what I

840
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: would always say to people when they when they asked

841
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: me about you, I'm like, she's smart, she's hot, and

842
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: guys just respected the hell and not respected, respect the

843
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: hell out of her. And when I'm still asking guys

844
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: like about you and like what it was like when

845
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: you worked on the sidelines with them. I I just like,

846
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: I want to be like this. I mean, I'm asking

847
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: coach Belichick how to be like you. So there you go. Um,

848
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: I love you, Melissa's dark. You are everything You're like

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