1
00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,440
Speaker 1: What's up, guys. Welcome into a brand new episode of

2
00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,760
Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly. We are three weeks away from the NFL Draft,

3
00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,800
Speaker 1: joined by Matt money Smith as always and money we're

4
00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,280
Speaker 1: taping this. I think LS used pro day going on

5
00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,360
Speaker 1: as we speak, and reportedly, hey, coach branded and Stanley

6
00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,400
Speaker 1: down there, maybe getting a look at old mister Derek Stingley. Yeah,

7
00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,199
Speaker 1: no surprise. We know how hands on he is with

8
00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,839
Speaker 1: the defense, particularly the defensive packs. I know there's a

9
00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,880
Speaker 1: couple assistant coaches down there as well. And look, I

10
00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,920
Speaker 1: think Stingley's it's a perfect I think that's a perfect

11
00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,440
Speaker 1: candidate to have more than one guy down there. It's

12
00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,760
Speaker 1: it's he's an incredible player when healthy, and there's so,

13
00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,080
Speaker 1: you know, so many questions to running his health. I

14
00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,199
Speaker 1: think it's one thing to see it on tape, but

15
00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,440
Speaker 1: you talk to the guys and the coaches and the

16
00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,480
Speaker 1: evaluators and they say, it's just different, you know when

17
00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,400
Speaker 1: you're there in person to actually get your eyes on

18
00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,720
Speaker 1: it and see it yourself. So not surprised. The Chargers

19
00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,480
Speaker 1: have a strong contingency in case he slips, you know,

20
00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,479
Speaker 1: and if the medicals are right, my goodness, talk about

21
00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,200
Speaker 1: value if they feel good about him moving forward. You

22
00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,759
Speaker 1: know that that that freshman season was absolutely incredible. So

23
00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,160
Speaker 1: last week we did a sixty minute audio mail bag.

24
00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,800
Speaker 1: If you didn't get a chance to listened to it,

25
00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,199
Speaker 1: we buzzed through a million different questions. Today, we're gonna

26
00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,120
Speaker 1: bring on an expert, my guy Rick Sarah Tella, NFL

27
00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,240
Speaker 1: Draft Bible on Sports Illustrated. Rick, it's an annual tradition

28
00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,200
Speaker 1: here around March and April, we have yawn and you

29
00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,000
Speaker 1: drop some knowledge. Always appreciate the time, man, Yeah, no,

30
00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,000
Speaker 1: it's always great to be here. I had a chance

31
00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,920
Speaker 1: to bump into Money Smith at the combine. We were

32
00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,800
Speaker 1: on the super Fly and chopped it up very briefly.

33
00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,080
Speaker 1: But I love fucking draft and love love talking some

34
00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,040
Speaker 1: charges football here, no question about it. Man. I drunk, Rick,

35
00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,360
Speaker 1: be honest, was I drunk when we got to each other.

36
00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,320
Speaker 1: It was morningtime, so we were just emerging from the fog,

37
00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,960
Speaker 1: So I was drunk. We could do a whole podcast

38
00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,720
Speaker 1: on that morning, maybe even Ricky, why did you set

39
00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,800
Speaker 1: the table for us? Made it? Give me your overall

40
00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,959
Speaker 1: thoughts on this draft class? What you like, what's strong?

41
00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,760
Speaker 1: What's week? Give me the lowdown. Yeah, well, I mean

42
00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,079
Speaker 1: I think one, I like the depth of the overall class.

43
00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,880
Speaker 1: I know it's not a star studded quarterback heavy upfront draft,

44
00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,120
Speaker 1: but you know, looking at our board, we had only

45
00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,480
Speaker 1: seven hundred and twenty five draft eligible players last year

46
00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,600
Speaker 1: with the COVID pandemic. This year we've got close to

47
00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,280
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred guys on the board, so there's twice as

48
00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,240
Speaker 1: many players in this year's draft pool. I think you're

49
00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,519
Speaker 1: gonna find some real gems on Day three the undrafted

50
00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,560
Speaker 1: free agency, even at a position like wide receiver that

51
00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,320
Speaker 1: I know the Chargers will be keeping an eye on.

52
00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,040
Speaker 1: I think there's a really lot of good depth there.

53
00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,280
Speaker 1: You see the teams paying top dollar in free agency.

54
00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,880
Speaker 1: It's a good year. If you do need a wide receiver,

55
00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,880
Speaker 1: I think there's good depth there. I think offensively, if

56
00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,520
Speaker 1: you need a blocker, offensive tackles are going to come

57
00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,399
Speaker 1: off the board frequently. We're gonna see them up top.

58
00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna see edge rushers fast and furious. I think

59
00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,600
Speaker 1: you know probably about five tackles, five edge rushers, and

60
00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,760
Speaker 1: you know at least three quarterbacks. So there's half of

61
00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,240
Speaker 1: your first round right there. And you mentioned Derek Stingley.

62
00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,720
Speaker 1: I think it'll be interesting to see guys like Stingley,

63
00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,680
Speaker 1: who is a wild card in this year's draft. You

64
00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,799
Speaker 1: could take the film, you could stay the case, even

65
00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,840
Speaker 1: his practice film against Jamar Chase day in and day out,

66
00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,560
Speaker 1: that this guy is one of the best three players

67
00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,440
Speaker 1: in the draft, and I want to be surprised if

68
00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,000
Speaker 1: he is when it's all said and done, when we

69
00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,560
Speaker 1: look back ten years from now. But the Liz Frank

70
00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,400
Speaker 1: definitely a concerning injury. But I think you know, if

71
00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,200
Speaker 1: you need a pass rusher and if you're trying to

72
00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,640
Speaker 1: block some pass rusher, I think those are the two

73
00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,520
Speaker 1: strengths there. Well, let's let's stick there, Rick, if if

74
00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,120
Speaker 1: you can't just kind of what you're hearing all the

75
00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,840
Speaker 1: all the people that you're talking to about Stingley, know

76
00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,360
Speaker 1: it's hard because he just is having his pro as

77
00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,240
Speaker 1: were it's pretty much done with it as we're talking

78
00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,560
Speaker 1: right now. But I mean the numbers are there. You know,

79
00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,080
Speaker 1: it's thirty nine inch bird, it's it's four three forty,

80
00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,000
Speaker 1: it's it's a ten foot broad jump. And I just

81
00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,600
Speaker 1: I asked because specifically in a charger's pod, because a

82
00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,560
Speaker 1: drwin you know, and there were concerns about Derwin's injury.

83
00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,960
Speaker 1: Everybody knew when he was healthy he was right. But

84
00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,479
Speaker 1: somehow he slips to number seventeen, and here are the

85
00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,039
Speaker 1: Chargers at number seventeen. What like, what is your vibe

86
00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,760
Speaker 1: on Stingley and whether or not you think he might

87
00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,239
Speaker 1: be available there? You know, it's it's fascinating because I've

88
00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,000
Speaker 1: heard everything from he could be gone in the top

89
00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,960
Speaker 1: ten or he could be around hanging out on day two,

90
00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,280
Speaker 1: depending on how that pro day goes. And so I

91
00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,240
Speaker 1: think the most important thing here is when you're investing

92
00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,320
Speaker 1: a top draft pick, say a top ten pick, you

93
00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,239
Speaker 1: want to you want to get a guy that checks

94
00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,560
Speaker 1: off all the boxes right, And the durability now concern

95
00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,919
Speaker 1: is going to be an issue because again with the

96
00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,400
Speaker 1: Liz Frank you might have to hold your breath there.

97
00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:04,400
Speaker 1: Whereas sauce Guard maybe not the better player, that's another debate,

98
00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,640
Speaker 1: but he is going to be healthy, he is going

99
00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,839
Speaker 1: to be ready to step in immediately. And I think

100
00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,000
Speaker 1: that's where you know, the decision makers inside the top

101
00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,440
Speaker 1: ten are going to have to have that conversation inside

102
00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,680
Speaker 1: the war rooms, and they're having him right now as

103
00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,359
Speaker 1: we speak. I think if he slides down into the

104
00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:26,599
Speaker 1: Chargers range, you definitely have to consider that and at

105
00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,839
Speaker 1: that upside and the value if you're getting one of

106
00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,440
Speaker 1: the best potential players in the draft in the middle

107
00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,799
Speaker 1: of the first round. It's hard, especially with the Chargers

108
00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,119
Speaker 1: with a team that is really on the brink ready

109
00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,279
Speaker 1: to win right now. He is a cornerstone when healthy

110
00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,120
Speaker 1: and a game changer, you know, Rick. I think that's

111
00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,440
Speaker 1: what's so fascinating about that seventeenth overall pick is there's

112
00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,160
Speaker 1: a variety of directions that the Chargers could go in.

113
00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,560
Speaker 1: Let's say Stingley's there, for instance, but I want to

114
00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,800
Speaker 1: go to the offensive line. And you were on it

115
00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,520
Speaker 1: with Rashawn Slater last year. Man, I think he was

116
00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,960
Speaker 1: number eight on your big Board and first team All

117
00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,560
Speaker 1: Pro his rookie season. A name, you know, money and

118
00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,080
Speaker 1: I've done a ton of different draft pods this last

119
00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,840
Speaker 1: month or so, but I don't think we've mentioned this

120
00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,159
Speaker 1: name that I've seen pop it up on social media

121
00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,880
Speaker 1: is Charles Cross, the offensive lineman from my billy, Mississippi State.

122
00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,600
Speaker 1: What can you tell me about him? And if the

123
00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,320
Speaker 1: Chargers can get the right tackle of the future to

124
00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,359
Speaker 1: pair with Rashaws later on the other side for the

125
00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,680
Speaker 1: next decade plus. That may not be a bad way

126
00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,680
Speaker 1: to go at seventeen. Yeah, and you know, I think

127
00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,640
Speaker 1: there's gonna be at least two offensive tackles, maybe three

128
00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,160
Speaker 1: inside the top ten, and Charles Cross would be my

129
00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,479
Speaker 1: number three after Ikuana from North Carolina State Evan Neil

130
00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,039
Speaker 1: from Alabama. The more I watched Charles Cross, the more

131
00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,400
Speaker 1: I love him. I know there's some concern there about

132
00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,800
Speaker 1: him getting into the second level playing in the air

133
00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,600
Speaker 1: raid offense, being more of a pass blocker, but I

134
00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,840
Speaker 1: think he has what it takes to improve in the run.

135
00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,560
Speaker 1: I've seen him seek out second level guys with an

136
00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,479
Speaker 1: intense city that I like because there's another knocks looping

137
00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,400
Speaker 1: around on him that maybe he's a little bit more

138
00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,080
Speaker 1: finesse than Evan Neil and Aquana, but I don't see that.

139
00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,120
Speaker 1: I like Charles Cross. I think he's a in an

140
00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,480
Speaker 1: ideal world, a plug and play right tackle, but I

141
00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,320
Speaker 1: think he's got a shot to start off on the

142
00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,320
Speaker 1: left side. What about penning That seems to be a popular,

143
00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,200
Speaker 1: you know, mock draft consensus. The Chargers do a great

144
00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,679
Speaker 1: job at Chargers dot Com and giving you weekly updates.

145
00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,320
Speaker 1: So here's what all the mock drafts are saying. It

146
00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,520
Speaker 1: seems like there's a lot of Trevor Penning to the

147
00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,640
Speaker 1: Chargers at seventeen. What can you tell us about him?

148
00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,080
Speaker 1: It makes sense. I think this is one of my

149
00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,680
Speaker 1: personal favorites in the draft, just because you know, we

150
00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,080
Speaker 1: talked about cross and the tenacity there. I mean, Penning

151
00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,080
Speaker 1: is the most intense guy in the draft. We all

152
00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,200
Speaker 1: saw that at the Senior Bowl. And this guy plays

153
00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,200
Speaker 1: through the whistle, past the whistle to the point where

154
00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,320
Speaker 1: you know he might even have to rail it in

155
00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,080
Speaker 1: a little bit at the next level. But hey, a

156
00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,400
Speaker 1: little bit more developmental. You know, he needs to be

157
00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,880
Speaker 1: on the NFL strength and conditioning program, he needs to

158
00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,440
Speaker 1: refine his technique little bit more. But definitely an instant player.

159
00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,720
Speaker 1: And I'll give you one other guy that Zeon Johnson.

160
00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,680
Speaker 1: I was up at the Boston College Pro day and

161
00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,880
Speaker 1: I want to rule it out. You know, you remember

162
00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,960
Speaker 1: the kid I think when from Georgia a couple of

163
00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,600
Speaker 1: years ago. The Patriots took like, I would not rule

164
00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,160
Speaker 1: it out. If you started the kid at right tackle,

165
00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,000
Speaker 1: see how he did. If not, I mean he could

166
00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,640
Speaker 1: he could play all three interior positions. I know at

167
00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,040
Speaker 1: the Pro day they had some team's request him at

168
00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,120
Speaker 1: center and do some snaps there. And you talk about

169
00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,880
Speaker 1: just strength, you know, maybe on the shorter side than

170
00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,199
Speaker 1: these other guys. But just like Slater a year ago,

171
00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:43,480
Speaker 1: his technique is his polished. He's ready this step and

172
00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,360
Speaker 1: be an immediate impact player. And I like that, just

173
00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,640
Speaker 1: real quick, Rick, I'd love to ask because you know,

174
00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,040
Speaker 1: people that listen, they hear these draft you know terms

175
00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,320
Speaker 1: or code words, And with Johnson, the one word you

176
00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,920
Speaker 1: hear all the time is clean. That hey, this is

177
00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,160
Speaker 1: the cleanest prospect that will go on the first round.

178
00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,160
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Like, when you say a prospect

179
00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,600
Speaker 1: is clean, what are you talking about? You know, I

180
00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,840
Speaker 1: think you're just talking about you know what you're getting there.

181
00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,719
Speaker 1: There's a higher floor, you know, as opposed to the

182
00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,720
Speaker 1: risk and reward of a Stingley for example. You don't

183
00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,840
Speaker 1: know what you're getting there. I think what you with Johnson,

184
00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,559
Speaker 1: you know you're not getting an elite starter, but you're

185
00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,040
Speaker 1: getting a really solid guy who could start for a

186
00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,480
Speaker 1: decade in the league because the characteristics, the traits, the polished,

187
00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,760
Speaker 1: the experience, what the coaches tell you tells you he's

188
00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,120
Speaker 1: right in Boston College. I mean, they've been churning out

189
00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:39,440
Speaker 1: guys for decades. It's you know, so wide receiver. Rick,

190
00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,800
Speaker 1: you mentioned how deep it is. We had this conversation

191
00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,920
Speaker 1: about Jamison Williams, and you know, if he was one

192
00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,839
Speaker 1: hundred percent healthy, he perhaps would be the first wide

193
00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,600
Speaker 1: receiver off the board. How do you see this wide

194
00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,600
Speaker 1: receiver class, specifically in the first round. I mean, you

195
00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,240
Speaker 1: know what you're hearing is Garrett Wilson from Ohio State

196
00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,040
Speaker 1: is going to be the first guy. And I think

197
00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:07,160
Speaker 1: that's a lot because Jamison Williams has got that ACL

198
00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,240
Speaker 1: injury he just suffered in the college football playoffs, and

199
00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,440
Speaker 1: Drake London just now had his pro day pushed back,

200
00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,960
Speaker 1: which is always you know, I don't want to say

201
00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,760
Speaker 1: concerning or alarming, but the red flags are gonna go

202
00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,000
Speaker 1: up right, like why isn't he ready? But my understanding

203
00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,200
Speaker 1: was that, you know, he probably won't be ready to

204
00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,720
Speaker 1: start the season anyway, So I don't know why he's

205
00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,720
Speaker 1: pushing this pro day. I guess he wants to go

206
00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,760
Speaker 1: out there and try to show that he's really close

207
00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,600
Speaker 1: to returning. But I think Drake London could slide based

208
00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,440
Speaker 1: on his availability because there's a good chance he doesn't

209
00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,439
Speaker 1: play the first half of the season, and so if

210
00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,960
Speaker 1: you can get a value like that, maybe at seventeen,

211
00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,360
Speaker 1: you've got to consider it, because I think, for my money,

212
00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,200
Speaker 1: Drake London is a true wide receiver one. He's got

213
00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,400
Speaker 1: great size to play the boundary. He's got an athletic

214
00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,600
Speaker 1: skill set to be a playmaker. He makes big plays,

215
00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,600
Speaker 1: he's explosive, he's got all the tools in the toolbox.

216
00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,760
Speaker 1: So I like Drake London. One. I think Garrett Wilson

217
00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,000
Speaker 1: has the potential to be a wide receiver one. I

218
00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,080
Speaker 1: think ideally i'd like him to be my complimentary starter.

219
00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,320
Speaker 1: And you know, Chris Olave is in that first round

220
00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,400
Speaker 1: mix as well, and we'll see, Like you know, Johan

221
00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,240
Speaker 1: Dotson we talked about, like guys like Christian Kirk in

222
00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:26,319
Speaker 1: free agency and what Tyreek Hill just commanded in a trade.

223
00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,880
Speaker 1: Johan Dotson brings that kind of speed in the slot,

224
00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,160
Speaker 1: so I have to imagine he's gonna be in consideration

225
00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,160
Speaker 1: for that first round. Traylan Burks is right there to

226
00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,000
Speaker 1: me on the outside looking in. You saw how Arkansas

227
00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,720
Speaker 1: used him kind of as a jack knife, kind of

228
00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,120
Speaker 1: like Matt money Smith of the media world. Yeah, play

229
00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,160
Speaker 1: by plays all those cities in the studio, like you know,

230
00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,720
Speaker 1: Traylan Burks was doing it all for the hogs there

231
00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,120
Speaker 1: in the razorbacks. So you know, a lot of different flavors.

232
00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,959
Speaker 1: And then I'll give you one guy day two, maybe

233
00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,720
Speaker 1: day three, I don't know. I mean, he was just

234
00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,839
Speaker 1: crushing it in your neck of the woods. Is Kenny

235
00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,600
Speaker 1: Phillips from UCLA. I mean, at the end of the day,

236
00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,720
Speaker 1: I just can't believe he's not going to be a

237
00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,240
Speaker 1: top five wide receiver in this draft class. When we

238
00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,160
Speaker 1: look back at it, just go if you can, Rick, though,

239
00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,440
Speaker 1: go back to it, because we talked about this last

240
00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,000
Speaker 1: week and I mentioned to Chris as I'm getting ready

241
00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,400
Speaker 1: to do the draft stuff with with Lance and Bucky

242
00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,480
Speaker 1: Overt NFL Network. We did the pod right after I

243
00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,840
Speaker 1: did wide receivers, and like to me as I and

244
00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,480
Speaker 1: again I don't have some sort of trained scoutsie, but

245
00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,040
Speaker 1: you know when you watch explosive plays and you're able

246
00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,079
Speaker 1: to watch the cut ups, man Jamison Williams just pops.

247
00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,800
Speaker 1: Like to me, it pops more than the other guys.

248
00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,240
Speaker 1: As fast as Garrett you knows, as beautiful and graceful

249
00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,800
Speaker 1: as Garrett Wilson is, as fast as a lobby looks.

250
00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,360
Speaker 1: There's something different, is am I right on that? Like?

251
00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,400
Speaker 1: Is that what you're hearing? It just I don't know

252
00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,679
Speaker 1: if it's explosion after the catcher what it is. He

253
00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,880
Speaker 1: does look different, though, Yeah, And I think there's a

254
00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,400
Speaker 1: couple of things. One the late bloomer effect and then

255
00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,679
Speaker 1: to the the injury is. You know, it's usually they

256
00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,240
Speaker 1: can bounce back faster from these injuries, but by time

257
00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,640
Speaker 1: they get one hundred percent, it's really that second season

258
00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,120
Speaker 1: that they're really back to that full speed. So I

259
00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,520
Speaker 1: don't disagree with the assessment. I mean, I think if

260
00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,720
Speaker 1: you put on the film, just like we alluded to

261
00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,080
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the segment, he probably would be

262
00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver number one. But you know, it's just a

263
00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,160
Speaker 1: shame that injuries do dictate when you're when you're again

264
00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,320
Speaker 1: trying to check off all the boxes with the first

265
00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,679
Speaker 1: round pick, and teams get a little bit leery and

266
00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,760
Speaker 1: hesitant when injuries are involved, especially when it's so fresh.

267
00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,959
Speaker 1: It's the last thing you saw, it's the last thing

268
00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,040
Speaker 1: on our minds, so it's it's really nothing about a

269
00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:45,240
Speaker 1: talent level. It's it's just more, you know, doorability or

270
00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,760
Speaker 1: coming off the injury rehab process. Rick, could you make

271
00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:53,000
Speaker 1: the case for the Chargers trading down. They don't have

272
00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,200
Speaker 1: a second round pick because of the Khalil Mack trade,

273
00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,720
Speaker 1: and I just I hear you talk about the depth

274
00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,240
Speaker 1: at wide receiver or an offensive line and edge rusher.

275
00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,559
Speaker 1: These are all positions that the Chargers could certainly use

276
00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,439
Speaker 1: and get a couple of starters. Could you make the

277
00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,120
Speaker 1: case for them perhaps moving down, getting that extra second

278
00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,439
Speaker 1: round pick back and just getting an extra player in

279
00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,680
Speaker 1: this draft? I think so. I think so because it's

280
00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,920
Speaker 1: all about the quarterbacks, and if there's a quarterback on

281
00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,880
Speaker 1: the board, and I know Pittsburgh at twenty is a

282
00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,200
Speaker 1: team that needs a quarterback, and Desmond Ritter has been

283
00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,720
Speaker 1: a hot name now being tossed about in the mid

284
00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:37,680
Speaker 1: to first round. So if the dominoes fall, you know,

285
00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:42,800
Speaker 1: you could see if Kenny Kyle Pickett slides past the Panthers,

286
00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,960
Speaker 1: there's no telling how much he's gonna fall after that.

287
00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,680
Speaker 1: And so if he's still on the board when the

288
00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,640
Speaker 1: Chargers come up, which is a possibility, I think you

289
00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,520
Speaker 1: gotta look, you gotta explore trading back, picking up the

290
00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,440
Speaker 1: additional equity. And again, like with this COVID pandemic, it's

291
00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,120
Speaker 1: not just this year's draft class that's impacted. It's also

292
00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,880
Speaker 1: next year's and the year after that, where you're gonna

293
00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,360
Speaker 1: have these super seniors, these six year seniors that are

294
00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,360
Speaker 1: going to just really fill the depth of these drafts.

295
00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm a big advocate of trading back, especially in a

296
00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,280
Speaker 1: draft like this where I see maybe six or seven

297
00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,640
Speaker 1: guys that I would really put at the top of

298
00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,880
Speaker 1: the class, and honestly ten to fifty. I mean, it's

299
00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,320
Speaker 1: just a big jumbalaya of guys that are so evenly matched.

300
00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,800
Speaker 1: Rick we started on corners. I want to go back

301
00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,800
Speaker 1: to it, just because it's like this is personal for me. Okay,

302
00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,840
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't care. I just there are things

303
00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,800
Speaker 1: that I attached myself too, and I get fixated and

304
00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,280
Speaker 1: I want them to happen so desperately. It's people that

305
00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,520
Speaker 1: listen to the pod. No, I love high school football.

306
00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,720
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't I live in southern California. It's the best

307
00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,520
Speaker 1: high school football in the country, specifically the Trinity League,

308
00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,280
Speaker 1: And I remember watching one of the best players in

309
00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,400
Speaker 1: the Trinity League, lighted up for Boss Go and try

310
00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,640
Speaker 1: mcduffee And anytime Jason Negro has an exceptional player and

311
00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,560
Speaker 1: they want to play in the back twelve, I know

312
00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,240
Speaker 1: they're exceptional because he sends them to Washington. That's where

313
00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,480
Speaker 1: they end up going when they're really good at Bosco

314
00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,680
Speaker 1: this I thought this was a possibility for the Chargers,

315
00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,920
Speaker 1: but man, it seems like try mcduffey's got a lot

316
00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,960
Speaker 1: of heat on him now and he may not be

317
00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,280
Speaker 1: around there at seventeen. Is that is that accurate? And like,

318
00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,920
Speaker 1: what can you tell us about him? Well, you know,

319
00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,480
Speaker 1: we've talked about what's a clean prospect look like, right.

320
00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,480
Speaker 1: I think McDuffie is one of those guys that is

321
00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,160
Speaker 1: just really smooth backpedal, fluid hips, which is what you

322
00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,640
Speaker 1: look for in a cornerback. Obviously, his zone heavy scheme there,

323
00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,560
Speaker 1: but I think he has the ability, if needed, to

324
00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:46,320
Speaker 1: play in a man coverage type of system. And you know,

325
00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,480
Speaker 1: he's a little bit gravvy. I think if you want

326
00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,760
Speaker 1: to nitpick something, sometimes he gets a little too handsy,

327
00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,640
Speaker 1: but he's a willing tackler. He'll help out in the

328
00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,640
Speaker 1: run game. And you know, I'm trying to figure out

329
00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:02,239
Speaker 1: is he you know, probably better suited at the interior

330
00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,399
Speaker 1: or like in a slot type of role at the

331
00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,960
Speaker 1: next level. I think he might be, so I think

332
00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,800
Speaker 1: that's what the teams have to really try to see.

333
00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,919
Speaker 1: You know, how does that peg fit into the puzzle?

334
00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,720
Speaker 1: There's a go ahead, Chris Well, I'm just gonna say,

335
00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,520
Speaker 1: I see play like a champion behind you. Rick and

336
00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,960
Speaker 1: Money mentioned this last week with Kyle Hamilton. How perfect

337
00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,080
Speaker 1: is That's what I was gonna do. There you go,

338
00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,200
Speaker 1: his his numbers may not have been up to par,

339
00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,439
Speaker 1: and kind of commence with where he's being kind of mocked.

340
00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,240
Speaker 1: Where do you see Kyle Hamilton at this point? Man?

341
00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,679
Speaker 1: You know, he's a top three player in the draft.

342
00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,720
Speaker 1: For me, I'm hearing he could actually slide out of

343
00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:46,879
Speaker 1: the top ten, which is absurd. Live in a fascinated

344
00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:53,320
Speaker 1: league where speed cannot be taught, and sometimes there's too

345
00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,400
Speaker 1: much emphasis placed on it and sometimes there's not enough

346
00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,960
Speaker 1: emphasis placed on it. I know he ran a four

347
00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,040
Speaker 1: or five nine at the onmbine and is being deducted

348
00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,280
Speaker 1: for that, But I mean, I see a guy that

349
00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,600
Speaker 1: can play in the box. He can play center field.

350
00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,320
Speaker 1: He can play either safety spot. I know he wasn't

351
00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,560
Speaker 1: asked to do it, but I'd talked to one Scott

352
00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,040
Speaker 1: that thinks he if you asked him to blitz, he

353
00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,200
Speaker 1: could even do that for you. So I just see

354
00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,320
Speaker 1: a really good football player. To me, I mean, if

355
00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,840
Speaker 1: I could get him in the top five, I'd be ecstatic.

356
00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,760
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not really a big fan of

357
00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,119
Speaker 1: trading up, but man, if he does fall outside the

358
00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:34,920
Speaker 1: top ten, to pair him in that secondary, that would

359
00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,200
Speaker 1: add a lot of flexibility. And I'm a big fan

360
00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,119
Speaker 1: of Kyle Hamilton. Say he thought three for me. We

361
00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,840
Speaker 1: let's see we've done well. Sh Okay, Let's get to

362
00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,280
Speaker 1: the positions that nobody well outside of the specialists, that

363
00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,800
Speaker 1: nobody really talks about anymore, and that's running back in linebacker.

364
00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,320
Speaker 1: And it seemed like at the start of this whole process, Rick,

365
00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,080
Speaker 1: we were talking Nakobe Dean is one of those clean prospects.

366
00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:58,920
Speaker 1: Well I guess not clean because of his size, right,

367
00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,520
Speaker 1: but undersize. But the production that's there, the speed is there,

368
00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,880
Speaker 1: the leadership is there. And the other one that's really

369
00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,160
Speaker 1: surprising to me, and again it's my West Coast pack

370
00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,679
Speaker 1: twelve biased. But and I'm here Devin Lloyd is like

371
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,639
Speaker 1: a Fred Warner clone, and now I'm seeing him slide

372
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 1: into the twenties. Like what's happening with those two linebackers

373
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,160
Speaker 1: that when this whole thing started, it seemed like we're

374
00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,400
Speaker 1: in the conversation for top fifteen. Now we're seeing them

375
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:26,920
Speaker 1: maybe not be day one picks. Yeah, So I think

376
00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,040
Speaker 1: it's funny you brought up the running backs. I've been

377
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,200
Speaker 1: on so many shows, nobody's once asked me about the

378
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:36,439
Speaker 1: running backs. But the linebackers I think are somewhat like

379
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,879
Speaker 1: the running backs, where that position has been devalued a

380
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,159
Speaker 1: little bit somewhat. You don't really see them going at

381
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,480
Speaker 1: the very tippy top of the draft unless they do

382
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,359
Speaker 1: check off all the boxes. And I think for Nakobe Dean,

383
00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's just a hair under six feet, which

384
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,520
Speaker 1: isn't prototype, and you know he's more of a traditional thumper.

385
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,920
Speaker 1: He's going to clean up the mess, natural stinks, read

386
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 1: and react kind of guy. I could you get a

387
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 1: Chad Muma from Wyoming on day two and still plug

388
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 1: and play a starter. I think that's what the linebacker

389
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 1: position has come down to. And then you know with Lloyd.

390
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,679
Speaker 1: I think, you know, he does have the better size.

391
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,880
Speaker 1: I think he uh drops in coverage a little bit

392
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 1: better than Dean, But still another guy that's that's gonna

393
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 1: swarm to the football. Maybe a little bit more limited

394
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 1: in terms of athleticism versus Dean, but the linebacker position.

395
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 1: You know, I see those two guys in the first

396
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 1: round conversation. I don't see the top twelve for them, though,

397
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,679
Speaker 1: I think they are in that fifteen to thirty range.

398
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,120
Speaker 1: What about the running backs? Yeah, those running backs, Rick, Yeah,

399
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,879
Speaker 1: you know the running backs, right, Uh. I think I

400
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 1: think someone's gonna find a way to find a home

401
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 1: for Breece Hall in round one. I just think that,

402
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, I've been doing this long enough. When you

403
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 1: when and we talk about checking off the boxes, and

404
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 1: when you have a guy that six foot two hundred

405
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 1: runs the four four leaps forty inches, has the crazy

406
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 1: production on film, I think he can do just about

407
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,360
Speaker 1: anything that you need him to do in terms of

408
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 1: being a featured running back. And let's be honest, we're

409
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: not asking him to be a bell cow. There's only

410
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 1: a handful of those guys. But I think if you're

411
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 1: looking at somebody to touch the ball fifteen to twenty

412
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 1: times a game. Greece Hawk can do that, and he

413
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 1: can give you a lot of value five yards a clip.

414
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,160
Speaker 1: So I think I like him in the first round mix.

415
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: You know Spiller out of Texas, A and M. He's

416
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: another one that didn't have a great forty yard dash,

417
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 1: but I still think he's one of the first facts

418
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: that come off the board. I like Kenneth Walker for

419
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 1: the value. Again, you're probably looking at like he could

420
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 1: come off the board somewhere between thirty five and fifty.

421
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: And I think Kenneth Walker is another one of these guys.

422
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 1: You know, the one year wonder might hurt him a

423
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 1: little bit with this draft stock. And I'll give you

424
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 1: two other guys here real quick. James Cook has grown

425
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: on me a lot during the draft process, just because

426
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,719
Speaker 1: you know, they had a lot of guys rotating in

427
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: there at Georgia, and I just love he just seems

428
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 1: like it can do it all and I like what

429
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: he brings to the table, So I think he's gonna

430
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 1: slide up there. And then you know my late, my

431
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: late round guy up here in the northeast out of

432
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: Sacred Heart, Julius Chestnuts, a big fan. He reminds me

433
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: of him, Romandre Stevenson. He's got the same size, speed

434
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 1: by former Walter Payton finalist he lost out to Cole Kelly.

435
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 1: There but Julius Chestnut. If you're looking for a late

436
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 1: Day three surprise at the running back position, Rick, we'll

437
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: get you at here on this man. You said it

438
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: at the beginning. The Chargers feel like they're on the cusp.

439
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 1: They did some damage and free agency. It's first week

440
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: of April, it's seventeen overall, Who do you think would

441
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: make the biggest impact in an effort to get this

442
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 1: team to the playoffs and beyond? You know, I guess

443
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: in a way this conversation has full circle like right

444
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: where it began. Because I'm a big believer that you

445
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 1: gotta go for broke and I do think Stingley is

446
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: the one guy that can slide and be the difference maker.

447
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: And if he's on the board, which I think there's

448
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: a fifth, I'll put it out fifty fifty chance that

449
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: Stingley's on the ball ticket and I think you gotta

450
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: pull the trigger because that is a cornerstone when healthy

451
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: that you can build around and will be a face

452
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 1: of your franchise. There it is Stingley. Who wait, who's money?

453
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: Trailing burks? Do you the trailing burks of media? Do

454
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: you do you stand by that money? You like that? Oh?

455
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: I don't put that on trailing burks. My goodness. The

456
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: guy's got to get drafted in the first round. You

457
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: don't want to put that stake on him. Rick, give

458
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 1: me another first round. You know he's more like a

459
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 1: tile still ups. How about that a top play? Right? There?

460
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: We go? There we go. I'll take it. I'll take

461
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: a pack twelve guy. Absolutely, Rick, You're the best brother.

462
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 1: I love doing this. I think it has been like

463
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: four years running that you've that you've done this with us.

464
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 1: So always appreciate the insight, man, and uh we'll talk

465
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: to you soon. Very cool. Appreciate the time, gentlemen, and

466
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: I'll see you on the road. Absolutely love it. That's

467
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: gonna do it. Go ahead. I'm gonna say big run

468
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: for Rick getting the Sports Illustrated love for the NFL

469
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: Draft Bible awesome coverage. Be sure to check it out there, dude.

470
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: I go to SI dot com every day. Love the

471
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: coverage over there. Yep, the big board is up, It's

472
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: is live and it looks great, brother. I appreciate all

473
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: your time for sure. All Right, guys, that's gonna do

474
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: it for us. Um we have a jam packed next

475
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: few weeks. All NFL drafts for Matt money Smith. I'm

476
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: Chris Harry