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We begin 20 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: tonight with one of the big stories that is driving 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: political chatter as we head into the weekend. The arrest 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: of a black Georgia state lawmaker who was seeking entry 23 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: to Governor Brian Kemp's closed door signing of a sweeping 24 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: election law is placing sharper scrutiny on Republican led state 25 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: houses pursuit of voting restrictions. State Representative Park Cannon, that's 26 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: the name, Park Cannon, he has, a Democrat, was released 27 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: from jail early Friday after she was handcuffed and arrested 28 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: by two white Georgia State patrol officers as supporters demanded 29 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: to know what law she violated. Now Earlier today, President 30 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: Joe Biden was asked about this on his way home 31 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: to Delaware for the weekend. He stopped before boarding Marine 32 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: one to talk to White House reporters. Take a listen 33 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: to the sound on this with regards to the developing 34 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: story in Georgia, you can't provide water for people about 35 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: the vote get up break. You don't need anything else 36 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: to know that there is nothing but tunitive designed to 37 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: creep people from voting. Meanwhile, Governor Brian kemp He was 38 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: also asked about this as he's signing nearly one hundred 39 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: page bill of sweeping election reforms earlier yesterday, just hours 40 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: after it passed on a party line vote in the 41 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: state Senate's Democrats and civil rights advocates have blasted the bill. 42 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: They've called it voter suppression, and this new law is 43 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: going to require voters to present a state I D 44 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: for mail in ballots, allows state officials to suspend local 45 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: election superintendents and make it a crime for someone who 46 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 1: is not an election work her to give food or 47 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: beverages to those waiting in lines and bean portable polling facilities. 48 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: Take a listen to Governor. According to them, if you 49 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: support voter I D for absentutee ballot, you're a racist. 50 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: According to them, if you believe in protecting the security 51 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: and sanctity of the ballot box, you're a quote Jim 52 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: Crow in a suit and tie. Congressman Brendan Boyle is 53 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: with us. He has a Democrat from Pennsylvania's second congressional 54 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: district outside of Philadelphia parts of Philadelphia as well. Congressman, 55 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: I know you and your colleagues are talking a lot 56 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: about this story. In particular, do you anticipate any significant 57 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: developments in Congress as from a federal level, or is 58 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: this simply are your hands tied and there's not much 59 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: you can do because it's so much of it happens 60 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: at the states. Well, Kevin, is great to be back 61 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: with you again. This shows exactly why both HR one 62 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: and the John Lewis Voting Rights Act are both necessary. 63 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: So if you had, for example, the John Lewis Voting 64 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: Rights Act, which passed the House and is now sitting 65 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: in front of the Senate, if that were law, that 66 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: federal law would knock out the Georgia law, as well 67 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: as several hundred similar laws that have been introduced in 68 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: the various state legislatures, all by Republicans attempting to restrict 69 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: the right of vote. So, yes, there is something we 70 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: can do at the federal level. The House has already 71 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: moved legislation on that, and then hopefully the Senate will 72 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: soon as well. Do you anticipate that President Biden's declaration 73 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: yesterday of moving towards some type of filibuster reform could 74 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: make those policy objectives easier for you? Or do you 75 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: think that ultimately the filibuster will not be dismantled in 76 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: the Senate. First, just for interest of full disclosure, I 77 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: have for years, um long, believe that the filibuster is 78 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: actually unconstitutional. The filibuster as it's been practiced the last 79 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: several decades, where it's basically automatically applied to every piece 80 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: of legislation requiring a super majority vote. It's completely contrary 81 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: to what our founders in Philadelphia envisioned. They had that 82 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: in the article as a confederation. They got rid of 83 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: it because it was such a failure. I love that 84 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: you just gave Philadelphish. I see what you did there, 85 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: and I respected as a Delco native. And if either 86 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: going to go back for me, I'm either going to 87 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: work it in on the founding of the nation or 88 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: the Eagles. But one way or the I'm getting the 89 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: Philly plug in, especially only a few days after National 90 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: Chief Steak Day. But I know, I know we're already 91 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: off topic ahead, which my office did recognize. But anyway, listen, 92 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: you could give a filibuster if you were in the 93 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: Senate just simply by reading the ingredients of Tony Lakes. 94 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Well, I um, I will say so for me. 95 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm coming from a pretty obvious perspective. I completely opposed 96 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: the filibuster, and by the way, I would be willing 97 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: to live under those same rules if sure enough, four 98 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: years from now there's a Republicans the Republican House, Republican 99 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: in the White House. That's fair. I do not believe 100 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: there should be a filibuster now, practically speaking, given where 101 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: Joe Mansion is given, where my former colleague Christian Cinema 102 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: is given, where I suspect a few other Democratic senators 103 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: are as well, but they haven't been as public about it. 104 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: It does appear that perhaps a way to achieve my 105 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: objective yet at the same time maintain some semblance of 106 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: the filibuster is through a few different reforms that would 107 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: basically turn it back to the way it was for 108 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: most of the twentieth century. Where do you still have 109 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: the filibuster? But you know it was only invoked an 110 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: average of once a year for most of the twentieth century. Again, 111 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: the real problem with this is really a relatively recent 112 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: problem in American history. Representative Boil, I know Kevin likes 113 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: when you raise Philly, I like when you raise the 114 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: Articles of Confederation, So thank you very much, UM. I 115 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you in the context of the voting 116 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: issue we're seeing in Georgia. You reading this, you know, 117 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: brings me back to uh Ruth Bader Ginsburg's descent in 118 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: the Shelby County case, which really set this firestorm off 119 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: in and you know, just looking a little bit beyond 120 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: congressional legislation, if we can just imagine HR one, the 121 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: the John Lewis voting rights active, we can imagine they 122 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: somehow miraculously get past is what are you think the 123 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: chances are that they get stopped in this judiciary that 124 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: has really turned you know, very much, UM, over the 125 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: last four years to the right. And given that, do 126 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: you think that Congress needs to consider increasing the size 127 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: of the Supreme Court or packing the court, which was 128 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: the other alternative that's been raised. Yeah, you know, you 129 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: raise a really important topic. Actually did and off ed 130 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: on this quite a while ago on how over the 131 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: last generation, UM, the Supreme Court has morphed into what 132 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: one author once called in and wrote a book about it, 133 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: called the most dangerous branch. And so as partisanship has 134 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: paralyzed the legislative branch, we have seen the judicial branch, 135 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: especially the Supreme Court, you sert powers. Now some of 136 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: those decisions. Frankly, people like me on the left have 137 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: cheered some of them people on the right have have cheered. 138 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: The reality is, though too often unelected folks who sit 139 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: on the bench are deciding things that should more properly 140 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: be decided by the people through their elected representatives. So 141 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: I actually think this is a problem that goes beyond 142 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: just the issue of whether or not you have nine 143 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: or thirteen members of the Supreme Court. I had noticed 144 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: talk about that, by the way, has really dropped from 145 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: where we were, you know, maybe six months ago. But again, though, 146 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: I think the problem is actually much deeper, and that 147 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: we need legislatively to rein in the unchecked power of 148 00:08:54,200 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: the judiciary. Connorsen, This is Rick. I want to prescio 149 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: a little bit on this because I think that one 150 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: of the things that as a Republican I've always thought 151 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: states uh managing their own elections was the strength of 152 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: our of our country, right is that uh, the systems 153 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: closest to the voters would always have the sensitivity and 154 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: and the understanding, and that if there were disputes like 155 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: there has been today in Georgia, that they could be 156 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: administered through the state court system, which is typically where 157 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: you find the the the activity around election law. And 158 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: and obviously, uh, there's a wave going on around the 159 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: country right there are over two hundred sixty of these 160 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: bills have been presented nationwide, most of them thrown out. 161 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: But in other states like Iowa and Texas, like Georgia, 162 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, they've already passed some of these kinds of 163 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: reform measures. But uh, isn't this really not about a 164 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: federal remedy for this, but to see where the politics 165 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: lies at the state level and let the state courts, 166 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: which aren't as known to legislate from the bench as 167 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: a as a Supreme court. You know, I I respect 168 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: and understand that the viewpoint. But let's not forget that 169 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: the Constitution explicitly says and gives the power to Congress 170 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: to regulate federal elections. I mean, a big reason why 171 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: throughout the nation we have the same election day, the 172 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: first Tuesday after the first Monday in November, dates back 173 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: to a federal law from the middle of the nineteenth century. 174 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: Before then, you actually had different election days. Uh, it 175 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: would be a different day depending on the state. So 176 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: it's pretty clear explicitly in the Constitution that Congress has 177 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: the right, indeed the responsibility, to set certain standards for 178 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: federal races. And I think that what we're seeing now 179 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: in state legislature after state legislature with um, with these 180 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: bills that have been introduced, mostly coming after the Big 181 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: lie was was peddled by the former president that to 182 00:10:54,400 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: me calls out for one federal law setting a national standard. 183 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: Congressman Random boils with us. He is a Democrat representing 184 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania's second congressional district. He is also the founder and 185 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: co chair of the Blue Collar Caucus, which advocates for 186 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: working families by addressing wade stagnation, job and security in 187 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: the future of work. That's where I want to pivot 188 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: this conversation to the future of work, because you know, 189 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: yesterday at that press conference, I was really surprised by 190 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: this that there wasn't a lot asked about the American 191 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: middle class and and and uh, here we are talking 192 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: about infrastructure in a couple of months from now, and 193 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: whether or not taxes should be increased to pay for it. 194 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: I had you on the program recently to discuss your 195 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: support of raising taxes on the wealthy as a means 196 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: to fund some some various programs. But what should be done, 197 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: Congressman Boyle, to to help folks so that the future 198 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: of work, whether it's due to automation or due to 199 00:11:55,200 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: a rerouted trade routes or even mass space expo ration, 200 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: that jobs and manufacturing jobs can come uh to all 201 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: parts of the country and especially to parts of the 202 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: country like similar to your district. Yeah, Kevin, you know, 203 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: I've been working on this issue now for the last 204 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: four and a half years through the Caucus that I 205 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: helped co found, and we've had a brought in a 206 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: number of folks from the private sector talking about this issue, 207 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: talking about the future of the work, of future work, 208 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: how we deal with the challenge that they are frankly, 209 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: just fewer opportunities, fewer jobs for less pay for those 210 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: workers like my parents who had a high school education 211 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: than there were thirty years ago and fifty years ago, 212 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: and the profound negative effect that has had in our society. 213 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: And what I've concluded is there are tangible things we 214 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: can do, but man, it is um it is complicated, 215 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: and it is not easy. It is not just going 216 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: to be solved candidly through one piece of legislation. I 217 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: think apprenticeships actually is a big part of the solution. 218 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: We have a number of automakers here in the US, 219 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: for example, who have created their own apprenticeship programs that 220 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: people can go into right after high school. They don't 221 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: accumulate debt, they're immediately making money, they get great training. 222 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: We've been looking into ways how we can take that 223 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: model that we have now and that automakers have, and 224 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: how we can expand that to certain back office functions 225 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: that people are typically now going to college for. How 226 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: we can marry private industry with community colleges so that 227 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: way they're they're more inclined to essentially be job training 228 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: for jobs that already exist and are likely to exist 229 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: in the future. But I'm the first one who will 230 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: tell you, as someone who spent a lot of time 231 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: in this area, it is not an easy problem to solve, 232 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: and it's not just a problem for the United States. 233 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: This is a problem throughout the West, and I would 234 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: offer part of the reason why we're in a democracy 235 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: recession worldwide right now is exactly because of this, because 236 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: it is created a working class angst throughout the Western world. 237 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: One of the things I wanted to ask you on 238 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: this point as you talk about the future of work. 239 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: I was struck yesterday by President Biden talking so explicitly 240 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: about this fight that looms between autocracy and democracy. And 241 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: as we look over at China and Jijing Ping's investment 242 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: and the Communist Party's investment, which is enormous in retaining 243 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: their supply chain or bringing their supply chain home, what 244 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: do you think can be done visa V. Whether it's 245 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: the bill, whether it's you know, Joe Biden's Infrastructure Bill, 246 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: or visa V. Congress to address what looks to be 247 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: an increasingly domestic Chinese supply chain over there and the 248 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: impact that can have on the future of work in 249 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: the United States. China has also been making huge UH 250 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: investments through Belton Road Initiative, attempting to gain influence and 251 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: power throughout Asia and Africa, and that is also a 252 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: real threat to the United States a in a different way. Um. 253 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: You know, this is obviously a time of intense partisanship 254 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: in the United States, maybe the most we've had in 255 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: the eighteen fifties. But the good news is if there 256 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: is one issue that does tend to unite the two 257 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: parties right now, it really is China. They need to 258 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: get tough on them, the need to recognize that they are. 259 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: Perhaps they're not a communist expansionist regime the way the 260 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: Soviet Union was, but they are an autocratic regime. They 261 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: do not share our values. And for too long, frankly, 262 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: I think the United States was naive and asleep at 263 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: the wheel, like throughout the nineties and the early two thousand's, 264 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: thinking that because China was opening up economically, that democracy 265 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: would suddenly flourish. That has not panned out at all. 266 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: In fact, what has happened, You've had a multibillion dollar 267 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: industry like the n b A he cowered into being 268 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: silent because they were too afraid to annoy a cost 269 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: fer base of one point three billion. So actually the 270 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: evidence is it's worth I have to jump in here. 271 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: So should the United States pull out of the Olympics 272 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: or should you know? You just raised the NBA. So 273 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: let me ask you that point playing, should the US 274 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: pull out of the Olympics to the US poll out 275 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: of the well, the Olympics are supposed to be in 276 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: in Japan. Um now, the Beijian Game, the Beijian Games 277 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: right on the winter side. Um No, I have to say. 278 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: I mean, while I, you know, wasn't old enough to 279 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: remember it when President Carter Um pulled out of of 280 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: the Moscow Olympics because of the in Russian invasion of Afghanistan, 281 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: I don't think that achieved anything other than messing up 282 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: the careers of our olympians. UM. It was a mistake. UM. 283 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: In my view, I don't think it really achieves anything. 284 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: I would rather the two weeks of the Olympics to 285 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: be a time not for politics. And when we take 286 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: a time out, what about this? Can I ask you 287 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: a follow up on that? What about using that time 288 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: as an opportun unity for Americans to highlight UH and 289 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: the athletes to highlight UH some of the horrific human 290 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: rights abuses that the Communist Party. I mean, we've seen 291 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: the power that athletes have domestically in our country with 292 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: the NFL, that they can raise about inequality in our country. 293 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be great, Congressman, if if American athletes did 294 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: that in Beijing to highlight the horrific abuses of the 295 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: of the of the the weakers at the hands of 296 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: the Communist Party, I I fully agree. I would love 297 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: to see that, of course, right Now, frankly, if NBA 298 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: players attempted to do that, would they be penalized by 299 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: their own teams and in their own organization. I mean, 300 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: that's the real problem. So no, rather than pulling out 301 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: of the games, I would rather see that, and frankly, 302 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: I'd rather go over kick their ass and win a 303 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: lot of gold medals. What about speaking of China, Uh, 304 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: President Biden, are President she Xing Ping of China and 305 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: President Biden are actually going to be meeting. It looks 306 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: like virtually on April twenty two, we've got sound on this. 307 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: Take a listen to what President Biden said, and then 308 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: I'll get your reaction and then I know you gotta run. 309 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: So but take a listen to this. I haven't said, 310 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: but they know they're invited. But I had put a lot. 311 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: I haven't take a run up. Yes individually, I guess 312 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: got off the phone taking it with the Pretty Times 313 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: yesterday I spoke for all the members of you, but 314 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: I hadn't spoke to the most. That wasn't a chainsaw. 315 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: It was a helicopter. I have no that was anyway. 316 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,239 Speaker 1: That was marine one going back and forth. But they 317 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: might be talking on Earth Day. Go ahead, congressman, the uh, well, 318 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: I could barely hear what he said, so instead they 319 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: might talk neither could I go ahead, and instead I 320 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: will throw in a quick factoid. The person who started 321 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: that and started the helicopter's running so he wouldn't have 322 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: to ask questions was Ronald Reagan. It was a trick 323 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: that he did, and he would put his hand over 324 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: his ear and say, I'm sorry, Sam, I can't hear 325 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: you because the helicoster is running. And so it's nice 326 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: to see that tradition living. Like the cell phone trick. 327 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 1: Go ahead when when lawmakers in Congress say, oh, I'm 328 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: on the cell phone, I can't talk to a reporter, 329 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: but go ahead, Congressman. That's the modern day equivalent. Although 330 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: I don't do that, um, but now look I will 331 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: also I will add UM. I was very proud of 332 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: the way Tony Blanken, who I know UM, handled the 333 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: Chinese at their first summit in Alaska, when the Chinese 334 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: officials again cheated as they always do, and instead of 335 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: giving a two minute opening statement, gave a twenty minute 336 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: uh screed about the supposed falls of the United States. 337 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: He pushed back on that insists of the media state 338 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: in the room and pushed back hard. We need to 339 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: see more of that from the United States because that's 340 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: the only thing this Chinese regime understands and respects. Alright, 341 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: Congressman Brendan Boyle, Democrat from Pennsylvania's second congressional District, thank 342 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: you so much for spending time with us on a Friday. 343 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: That's Congressman Brendan boil of anytime of of Philly, Rick 344 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: and Genie Gina. I know you and your your analysis. 345 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: Well my first, my first learning here is this cell 346 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: phone trick that you just taught me, Kevin, So thank 347 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: you very Oh my gosh. No one thing I wanted 348 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: to follow up on um and maybe you know, do 349 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: it another time we talk to him. Is you know 350 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: we hear a lot or I hear a lot, and 351 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure you do about bipartisan agreement on a visa 352 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: each China and this need to get tough on China 353 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: and what you know, I'm still not clear on from 354 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: a legislative perspective, what that exactly means, what we're should 355 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: be looking for in the president's approach to China, and 356 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: what sort of that get tough on China means, whether 357 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: it's about the supply chain jobs, you know, all of 358 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: these different capacities. So that's one thing I would like 359 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: to hear more about as we go forward on this. Yeah, 360 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: I think from my reporting what I can gather is 361 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: that when it comes to the defense author is en 362 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: and and and other various components of of of trying 363 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: to encourage there to be coordination amongst the United States 364 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: and Europe, that that that that would be facilitated. But reck, 365 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: I think Jinie makes a great point there. It's one 366 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: thing to say, you know, the same talking points, but 367 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: it's an entirely different to to come at this from 368 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: a policy agenda. Yeah, I think that absolutely there is 369 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: going to be You can imagine the Biden administration rolling 370 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: out various initiatives to try and tame the Chinese beast. 371 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: But I would say too, there is a very there's 372 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on corporate America today. You were 373 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: talking with the Congressman about the situation in China where 374 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: they are basically threatening US companies UH in order to 375 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 1: keep them from getting into what they call internal Chinese business, 376 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: and whether it's Nike or the NBA or any number 377 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: of these. And I think the Corporate America especially with 378 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: the rise of E s G and this whole governance issue. 379 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: If you're doing business with people who are committing on 380 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: a side, you know, who have slave labor. I mean, 381 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: how do you satisfy your E s G requirements if 382 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: you're manufacturing your products in China right now, especially in 383 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: a region that might be occupied by um you know, 384 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: weaker concentration camps. So I think that corporate America has 385 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: something to say in this debate, in addition to the 386 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: Biden administration and potential sanctions and other government actions that 387 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: can take place. Rix. Let me follow up on that, 388 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: because there's a sports industry publication called sport a Code 389 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: that recently launched and and they cover the business side 390 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: of sports. But I've been really struck that that this 391 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: particular issue has not been raised. But when you look 392 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: at all of the capital and access to capital that 393 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: the various leagues and athletes and UH retailers have, especially 394 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: around the NBA, that Congressman boy I had no idea 395 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: who was going to bring that up, Rick Uh. And 396 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: then you look at what's coming in two do you 397 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: do use It's from your conversations with the business community 398 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: that that is when the US and allies really could 399 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: put the pressure on the human rights abuses and really 400 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: show the world what is happening in in the Shinjang province. Absolutely, 401 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was a brilliant suggestion to actually have 402 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: our athletes be able to make a statement. Uh. China 403 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: is more worried about it's this it's domestic image than 404 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: it is its image abroad. They really don't care what 405 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: we think about them. But they are dependent on a 406 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: billion and a half people sort of going along with 407 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: the crime, right, and and so the minute you start 408 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: stirring the pot internally in China, that's much more difficult 409 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: for them to deal with than US attacking them or 410 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: withdrawing from the Olympics or something like that. And you've 411 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: seen that in the way that they've been conducting themselves 412 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: in the latest initiatives with the Biden administration. And I 413 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: thought that's why Christian Walkner's question yesterday about access and 414 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: transparency here in the United States for the horrible situation 415 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: the crisis happening at the US Mexico border was so 416 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: incredibly uh important. And I thought it was a really 417 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: brilliant question that Chris and asked, all Right, I'm Kevin 418 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: Surreli with the All Star Policy Panel, Rick and Genie. 419 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: Much more coming up next. This is Bloomberg. My name 420 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: is Kevin Ceireli on, the Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg 421 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: Television and for Bloomberg Radio, accompanied by the All Star 422 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: Policy Team, Rick Davis and Jennie Sean Zayo. I was 423 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: struck by this. My mom called me today. I was 424 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: talking to her, So, what do you think of the 425 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: press conference? And she said, Uh, how come they didn't 426 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: ask about the coronavirus? So I feel like we should 427 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: we should provide an update on the coronavirus. Because during 428 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: today's virtual briefing from the White House COVID nineteen Response Team, 429 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: Dr Fauci was asked about new cases amongst people who 430 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: have gotten the vaccine shots. This is a this is 431 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: a thing that that's been spreading on social media and whatnot. 432 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: And I think it's important to play this because, uh, 433 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, well millions of Americans have gotten their theiraccinations. 434 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: Here's the sound on the shots from Dr Fauci. Take 435 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: a lisson with re gone to the breakthrough cases of 436 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: people who have been vaccinated and ultimately have gotten infection. Obviously, 437 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: This is something that we take seriously and follow closely. 438 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: You will see breakthrough infections in any vaccination when you're 439 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: vaccinating literally tens and tens and tens of millions of people. Uh, Genie, 440 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: I want to start with you here because we compared 441 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: and contrasted the American rollout that took two administrations and 442 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: breakthroughs in science and whatnot, um to what happened in Europe. 443 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: And you almost get the sense here from Dr Fauci 444 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: that they are doing everything in their power to not 445 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: have an astrazenica situation. Domestically in the United States. They are. 446 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: And I think first I was struck by the same 447 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: thing your mother said, which was despite despite the you know, 448 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: the president making those remarks and promising to get two 449 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: hundred million vaccinations in a hundred days, which is, you know, 450 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: however much we decry what our government does, that is 451 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: absolutely you know, amazing that both administrations have been have 452 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: gotten us to that point. Um, there were no questions 453 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: to follow up on that. And I do think that, 454 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, we are the United States government is trying 455 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: hard not to have a situation like that in the 456 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: United States. I also think we need to be cognizant 457 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: that the difficulties in the EU pertain an awful lot 458 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 1: to the difficulties of pleasing all of the member states. 459 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: If you compare what's happened in the EU roll out 460 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: to what's happened in England, England has done much better. 461 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: So a part of this it has to do with 462 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: the structure of the EU and how difficult it is 463 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: for a confederation to roll something out when they have 464 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: to pleave so many member parts. So that I think 465 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: is a story as to why, just to raise what 466 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: Representative Boyle says, we no longer have a confederation because 467 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: we might be in a similar situation. Reck. Yeah, I 468 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: think that uh um. You know, everyone is pretty much 469 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: moving into the new phase of COVID, right, I mean, 470 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: like part of the news we've received as the updates 471 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: on the the the vaccine program of America has been 472 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: at least given one shot. Um uh four have gotten both. 473 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: That's that's an amazing speed with which the h since 474 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: the Chairman change in administration, the Biden administrations maaila accomplish 475 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: and and and and The key piece of I thought 476 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: the success of the Biden administration first hundred days was 477 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: the announcement that he was going to double the amount 478 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: of vaccine distributed to two hundred million shots and arms 479 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: by his first hundred days. So I do think it's 480 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: turning out to be one of those things that UM 481 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: is going to be a great success story for Joe 482 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: Biden first hundred days. Two hundred million shots. That's really 483 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: quite amazing, and especially considering the kind of slow rollout 484 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: that occurred at the big end of last year, you know, 485 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: during the election. So I think that that's an important contrast. 486 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: We are now in the top tier of countries that 487 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: are that are handling this. You contrast that with where 488 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: we were six months ago, where we we actually were 489 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: the worst country in Western civilization uh to uh to 490 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: be handling the COVID problem. And so that contrast, I 491 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: think even within the United States has been stark and 492 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: and Rick and Kevin. I don't know if you were 493 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: struck by this, but not only was I struck, like 494 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: your mother, Kevin, by the absence of, you know, any 495 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: questions about COVID after to Rick's point, this you know, 496 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: amazing two hundred million vaccination number, but the fact that 497 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: we are hearing now that the president is not continuing 498 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: to enjoy as high approval ratings as he was in 499 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: part they are starting to erode because of what's happening 500 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: at the border. And as we know watching the press 501 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: conference yesterday, all of the questions or the as the 502 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: majority were on the border and on the Philibus majority, 503 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: the vast majority. So you know, as Rick is saying that, yes, 504 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: we you know, the president should enjoy enormous acclaim and 505 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: high approval numbers for COVID, and I think he does, 506 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: but overall, his numbers starting to dip a little bit 507 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: as this crisis emerges, and I wasn't convinced by his 508 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: answers yesterday that that's going to change any minds on that. 509 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: Let's go there, Let's let's play a little bit of 510 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: what Jensaki said today, uh, the day after that press conference, 511 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: UM about immigration reform. We've got sound on this because 512 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: she was asked about the situation of granting more access 513 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: to shelters for unaccompanied children at the US border ticklism. 514 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: This is not a partisan issue. This is an issue 515 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: where we're talking about people's lives, children's lives, uh, and 516 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: we're focused on working with anyone who wants to be 517 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: a part of a solution to address the challenges we're facing. Okay, 518 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna do my best, yes, and no 519 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: impersonation from the tech hearing. Rick, Is this the partis 520 00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: an issue? Yes, Gene? Is this the partis an issue? Yes? Rick? Is? 521 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: I mean when is there and now we can talk? 522 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: But I mean, seriously, when is there going to be 523 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: an opportunity for there to be some type of comprehensive 524 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: immigration reform? Well, that's the thing, right, Um. What I 525 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: was shocked by is that the administration, that by administration 526 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: isn't using this moment to actually perform a uh campaign 527 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: around comprehensive immigration reform. UH. That there have been lots 528 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: of good bills in the past, uh, and and why 529 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: they don't dust one of those off and go out 530 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: there with a change of message, which is, Okay, the 531 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: border is messy and we're looking for help from any 532 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: quarter we can get to manage it, but in the meantime, 533 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: we have to solve for the problem. And the idea 534 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: that that we're gonna like solve this problem at the 535 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: border by someday having a happy life in Honduras is 536 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: going to be a long way off, right. I mean, like, 537 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: if that's the plan, plan on the border being a 538 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: mess for years and Rick, don't you think next time 539 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: Kevin asked us to play these tech giants, he should 540 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: pay us the billions of dollars you assume a lot. 541 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: Actually we didn't do a very good job. We should 542 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: have said, well, there's a lot. I'm waiting for you 543 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: to tweet out the question that Dorsey did, which is 544 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 1: right now. I gotta say that that was again. I mean, 545 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: but if you were an astronaut and you came back 546 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: down from space yesterday, you would think that the only 547 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: issue facing America is that is immigration, which is an 548 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: incredibly important crisis. But I was really struck by how 549 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: that all played out yesterday at that press conference. I'm 550 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: Kevin Currey. More Up next, this is Bloomberg. I'm Kevin Sireli. 551 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm the chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and for 552 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. You know, I was thinking about to a 553 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: trip I took, uh during the Trump years, the Trump 554 00:31:54,520 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: era and uh when President now former President Trump went 555 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: to Helsinki, and I remember Tom Keene was there and 556 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: we were covering it, and Vladimir Putin was there and 557 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: of course, uh, former President Trump was heavily criticized by Republicans, Democrats, 558 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: and and and even folks within his own administration for 559 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: his handling of that particular summit. Um, but I'm struck 560 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: by this because the headline crossed the Bloomberg terminal this afternoon. 561 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: That's going to be absolutely remarkable on April if all 562 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: goes to fruition. And we're bringing it back old school 563 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: sound on Days with our segment of What's next, what's 564 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: coming up next? And and President Biden invited Vladimir Putin 565 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: to attend the April twenty second Climate Change Summit with 566 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: Shi Jing Ping the Bloomberg All Star Policy Panel. Rick 567 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: Davis and Jeannie shanz In are with me for analysis. Rick, 568 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a zoom call for the history books. Yeah, 569 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: this Climate Summit really economics and climate, but being billed 570 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: as the Climate Summit is going to have I think 571 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: over seventy heads of state. It's a big deal to 572 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: the Biden administration and one that arguably could be a bridge, 573 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: certainly for China, less so for for Vladimir Putin um 574 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: to finding a constructive avenue for conversations. We've been talking 575 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: a whole week about the sort of disastrous state of 576 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: affairs between the US bilateral relationship with China. But on 577 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: one issue, uh climate, we may actually be able to 578 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: find ways to work with President she and his administration. 579 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: And I was going to say, this is exactly what 580 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: the Biden administration has promised from the time they campaigned 581 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: and their first sixty six days in office, is that 582 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: when it comes to China, they are both going to 583 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: compete and cooperate. And so we see areas in which 584 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: there is competition, but this is one area where they 585 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: hope to co operate. And I think the fascinating thing 586 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: about what happens in this summit, you know, which will 587 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: be you know not you know, a COVID style summit, 588 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: as you mentioned virtual, is does that cooperation come to 589 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: fruition and what forum does it take? So I am 590 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: really curious to see how this pans out. Well, he's 591 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: going to be outlining, the President Biden will be outlining 592 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: the goals for reduction of carbon emissions by um and 593 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 1: it's another indication of the reentry into the Paris Climate Accords. 594 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: So this April meeting is going to be a remarkable, 595 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: remarkable global event and it will have huge geopolitical implications. 596 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: Um and and no doubt. It's interesting though because as 597 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: a reporter with my reporter had on me so much 598 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: of these summits when when you cover them, you're you're 599 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 1: looking for uh, analysis and intelligence into like the aids 600 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: that are staffing the heads of state and who has 601 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 1: the hour and the body language between the world leaders, 602 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: I mean, and to do it virtually, Rick, I don't know, 603 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: I mean you almost just there's a part of my 604 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: mind that's thinking there has to be somewhere where the 605 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: United States wishes that they could have hosted this summit 606 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: somewhere else with and made a different type of impact. Oh, 607 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: no question, Kevin. Uh. The the atmosphere, the expectation, management, 608 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: the optics of a summit like this are really quite 609 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: unique and wonderful. And and we've just been through a 610 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: period in the President Trump's presidency where he was kind 611 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: of the anti summit. Heer right, I mean, he liked 612 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: one on one meetings, he didn't want a bunch of 613 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: other people around and uh, and he liked to throw 614 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: hand grenades in the middle of the summit. And and 615 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, he'll he'll be the boring summit here, he'll 616 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: you want to hob nob with all these other guys, 617 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: and he can't do it so much if it's on zoom. 618 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: But outcome matters, right, and outcome still requires all these 619 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: countries to start sign onto things in advance. The staff work, 620 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: as you identified to people who are sure paying the 621 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: summit will still do the work and ideally come out 622 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: with agreements on important issues like climate in this case, 623 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: UH that have the last test of time, and so 624 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: the outcomes could still be impactful. It's just we're gonna 625 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: miss all the pageantry of a good summit like now, 626 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: I had sorry, I wanted to ask, did did Rick 627 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: Davis just coin a term summit here like here? Or 628 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: is that an actual term? Rick m two for two 629 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: on a Friday. No, But I think also there's an 630 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: I was talking to a source earlier today just about 631 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta be candid here. A lot of 632 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: folks in government on both sides of the aisle, including 633 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: the executive branch and Congress, are working from home still, 634 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: and that has you think about the relationships that are 635 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: not being forged and the UH, the the team building. 636 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: Even that Rick and Jeannie you both know so well 637 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: from your own professional lives that are that is not 638 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: occurring because of things like this, And I'm thinking of 639 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: the relationship that takes to put on a world summit, 640 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: for example, none of that's occurring because they're all just 641 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: going to tap into a virtual summit. So it's it's 642 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: a we're on a tangent, but it's a remarkable one. 643 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,479 Speaker 1: Genie's I know what's next for you, Well, I'm gonna 644 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 1: be looking at how this plays out in the Suez 645 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: Canal with this this ship that is that is stuck 646 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: UM in particular, we know that the White House is 647 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: watching it carefully because they are very concerned about the 648 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: impact on the energy markets UM and so you know, 649 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: how this comes out may have huge implications for the 650 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: energy markets and that's why you know, Jen Saki talked 651 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: about this today at at the briefing UM that that 652 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: they feel that they need to get involved, so curious 653 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: to see how this pans out. And you know, Christine 654 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: Barata was just sharing some really interesting facts on the 655 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: i B about the Suez Canal, which I wasn't from 656 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: million you're with, but there's such a history there that's 657 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: fascinating and this is really you know, this strange situation 658 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: has really brought that all to fruition. And it's it 659 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: belongs to Egypt. It's this man made waterway linking the 660 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: Red and Mediterranean seas. Uh. It opened back in eighteen 661 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: sixty nine. Uh. And it this ship, folks, I mean, 662 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: if you've seen a map, it's like that game Battleship, 663 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: you know. I mean it's literally blocking on its sideways 664 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: millions of dollars worth of trade. And so now the 665 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: White House has to get involved just to handle this 666 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: two hundred thousand ton vessel that's stuck into position. The 667 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: one industry expert, according to the Washington Post Post compared 668 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: to any quote enormous beached whale end quote. Talk about 669 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: a traffic jam at collegi. Anyway, what is going on 670 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: for what's next? Rick Davis? You know, I'm watching the 671 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: infrastructure debate. Uh. You know, we we we we see 672 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: a lot of activity, a lot of churning around in 673 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: the administration to put together a massive infrastructure bill. We've 674 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: heard expectations even during the press conference getting set. But 675 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: I'm watching, Uh, Senator Mansion, right, the most powerful man 676 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. And And and I think that 677 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: what he said this week is worth worth repeating, and 678 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: that is he's looking for a huge bill. He wants 679 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: to go big on infrastructure. He actually was quoted as 680 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: calling it, I want an enormous bill. Now, I don't know. 681 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: One point to one point nine trillion COVID relief bill 682 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: just passed that Senate with his support. I'm wondering what 683 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: he thinks is enormous, and too he wants to pay 684 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 1: for that by rolling back Trump tax cuts. And so wow, 685 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 1: what a mixture of important policy being done by one 686 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: guy putting it on the table saying I expect a 687 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: big bill from the Biden administration, and I expect to 688 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: pay for it by rolling back these Trump tax cuts. 689 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm watching that. What is the global analysis of the 690 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: United it States talk about infrastructure? How do they interpret that? 691 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: You know, I think people see it as a positive um. 692 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: You know, if you own UH bonds in US, you 693 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: want to have a strong infrastructure. You want this country 694 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: to prosper. The world is trading on our debt right now, 695 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: and underneath that is the ability of our country to 696 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 1: be able to continue to prosper, and our ability to 697 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: prosper is going to be to some degree predicated on 698 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: our ability to improve our infrastructure. And as you've talked 699 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: in the past, Kevin, that includes broadband distribution throughout the country. 700 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: That includes our ability to you know, really uh, tackle 701 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: climate issues with more renewable energy. Uh, it's in job 702 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: training for the future. I mean, all these things will 703 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: make us the more competitive nation and the world wants 704 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: to see that. Yeah. I think that's that's incredibly, incredibly important. 705 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: All right. Uh, this month is Women's History Month and 706 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: marches Women's History Month, and Bloomberg Radio is looking back 707 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 1: at some of those who have played a vital role 708 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: in American history. And here with today's installment is Bloomberg's 709 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: Young un The Staying Women's History. In nineteen seventy four, 710 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: Gora dev organizes women to save the forest near her 711 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 1: village in India. Devi came from a community of pastoralists 712 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: in northern India who depended heavily on local resources for 713 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: their livelihood. In the early nineteen seventies, the indigenous people 714 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 1: started organizing in reaction to the threat of large corporate 715 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: developers appropriating their resources. The non violent environmental movement became 716 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: the Chipco movement. So one day officials lured the men 717 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: of the village away and sent laborers to cut down 718 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 1: thousands of trees. But dev and a group of twenty 719 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: two women and girls surrounded the trees, and in the 720 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: face of violent threats and screams, the women persevered and 721 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 1: eventually saved the trees and chased the loggers away. That's 722 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 1: today in women's history. I'm Renied a young Bloomberg Radio. 723 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: Just another headline that warrants attention. The U. S s 724 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: Q Is China of a state run social media campaign 725 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: and boycott against companies that refuse to use cotton from 726 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,240 Speaker 1: the Shenjang region over concern that the crop is produced 727 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: with forced labor by Muslim minority weakers. Another developing story, 728 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 1: much more coming up next. My thanks to our executive 729 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: producer Christine Burrata, our producer Matthew Shirley, the All Star 730 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 1: Policy Team. Matthew Shirley is doing a wave in the studio. 731 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: Are the All Star Policy Team, Rick Davis and Jennie Shanzano. 732 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Surley, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg TV and Radio. 733 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg