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Listener discretion is advised. On 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:06.920 the night of Wednesday, August fourteenth, twenty nineteen, two officers 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:10.920 responded to a wellness check at the Dernings home in Lakeview. 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.399 It was called in by Jessica's friend Maria after not 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:19.800 hearing from her for nearly two days. The officer spoke 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:24.360 with Jessica's husband, Justin, for about seven minutes, and upon leaving, 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.200 they let him know that another squad would be coming 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:31.360 out to file a missing persons report. Just a few 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:35.640 hours later, around one o'clock in the morning Thursday, August fifteenth, 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:41.679 Senior Officer Lucretia Gantner and rookie Officer Tristan Griffin arrive 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:46.120 at the residence. This is their bodycam audio, which we 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:47.800 obtained from the family. 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:49.960 Three five A third District. 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:50.320 Here you. 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:56.240 While Officer Griffin talks to Justin outside, Officer Gantner calls 0:01:56.280 --> 0:02:00.760 Detective Anthony Lunn from inside her police cruiser and explains 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:02.280 the reason for being there. 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:05.760 Okay, so we're at. 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:11.800 Earlier tonight, around ten something, a friend from out of 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:13.880 town called and said that she hadn't been able to 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:17.399 get a hold of her friend since Monday. 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.480 I think she's not answering her phone and all that. 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:22.600 So an officer came out here, I think a leaf 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.400 few officers came out did a wellness check. Well, when 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:27.880 they did the wellness check, the husband says, no, I 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.720 haven't heard from her either. Her phone's here, her purse's here, 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.480 her meds are here, everything's here, But I haven't heard 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:39.639 from her, and I don't know where she's at. And 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.400 the friend that called from out of town said that 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.000 she's afraid that the husband did something to her because 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.440 they have a history of. 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:51.880 I guess domestic issues. 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:55.079 Now, before we get into the remainder of the bodycam audio, 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:59.519 it's important that we addressed the weighty statement made by 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:04.080 Maria because there's some context to it. It started about 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:08.400 nine months earlier, near the end of twenty twenty. I'll 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:09.639 let Maria fill you in. 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.400 When they came to stay in my home at Thanksgiving. 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:15.040 My middle son is in. 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:20.560 Competitive cheer and they had a two day competition scheduled 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:24.520 for the end of January early February in New Orleans. 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.519 They were getting packed up ready to leave. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:28.160 You know. 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:29.440 She was like, I'm so sad. 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.080 I don't want to leave. And I was like, I know, 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:32.760 I'm going to miss you. And I was like, well, 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:37.680 as a competition in New Orleans and it's a two 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.920 day competition, so maybe we'll just come stay with you. 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.840 She was like, yeah, of course, And you know, I 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:44.760 mean we had just had them in our house for 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:46.680 three days. Of course they were going to say yes, 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:51.040 you know. So then just a few days before we 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:54.320 were supposed to show up and stay at her house, 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:58.320 I get this text from her and she says, Hey. 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.480 I need to talk to you about this weekend. I'm 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.000 hiding in the bathroom right now, so Justin doesn't hear me. 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:07.080 We've been fighting, like fighting for the past three days 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.520 about everything. He's threatening to kick me out, put me 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.080 in jail. He's hit me. 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:13.280 It's bad. 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:15.680 He told me, you guys can't come, or it's going 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:16.520 to be worse for me. 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:17.680 Lo. 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.480 I'm so sorry. I know it's the last minute, and 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:24.000 I feel awful. I don't know what to do. I 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:27.680 can recommend somewhere that's reasonable and nice. The Beyond Canal. 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:31.680 We say they're a lot, or we used to hell. 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:33.400 I'm scared. 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:00.520 Both the police body came audio and the Edge text 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:05.080 thread between Jessica and Maria raise a serious accusation about 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:09.479 domestic violence regarding Justin. While I cannot speak to the 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:13.920 accuracy of these claims, it's important to understand that Justin 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:17.600 has never been charged with any crimes of domestic violence 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:18.680 against Jessica. 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.560 I mean, it was kind of an upsetting text to get, 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:26.320 you know. I mean, she's putting a lot of detail 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:30.039 in here, which is unusual. But he's threatened to kick 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:31.920 me out with something that he did all the time. 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.320 So it struck me as very odd because she had 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:39.880 never put any kind of details about the relationship and 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:44.080 writing like that. Later on that day she called me 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.799 and she was like, I'm so sorry. You know, maybe 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.200 we can find a room for you. And I was like, 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.320 it's cool, I've our I booked something. And I was like, 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.479 but aren't you done with this yet? Like are you tired? 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.360 You have to be tired, Like you're not getting any younger, 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.680 this doesn't get any better. She was like, yeah, I know, 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:05.680 and then she would just kind of change the subject. 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.560 While Maria may have been shocked at the revelation, she 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:14.960 remained fairly casual about it, giving off a certain familiarity 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:19.400 with the situation. Turns out, at the time, she had 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:23.280 just gotten out of a tumultuous relationship. It's a big 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:27.039 reason why she alienated herself and lost touch with Jessica 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:27.960 for a few years. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.400 Most of the people in her life didn't know what 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.520 she was going through, because you know, you don't just 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:38.480 tell people all your dirty laundry. So that's why I 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:41.280 knew to be patient with her about it. It had 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.799 to be the time, It had to be the exact 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:44.839 right time to go. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:52.760 Maria waited as patiently as she could, and then seven 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:57.200 months later, the morning of Monday, August twelfth, twenty nineteen, 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:01.920 just two days before police responded to wellness check. Jessica 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.680 reached out, so. 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:06.919 I slid the phone open and put it on the speakerphone. 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.479 I was like hey, she said hey. I said, what's 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.360 going on? And she was like, I just really need 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:13.920 to get out of here? Can you come get me? 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:16.960 I was like, well, I can't come right now. I've 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:18.840 got to pick up the kids in like two hours. 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:24.160 But if you're really ready to go, I could be 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:27.440 at your house by ten thirty tomorrow morning, but you 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.600 got to be ready to get in my car, like 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.200 no looking back and turning back into a pillar. Assault, 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.640 Like you've got to be ready to go. And she 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.880 said okay. I said, well, what's going on? She was 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:39.840 like it's just so bad. And I was like, well, 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:41.800 what does that mean so bad? Because I was trying 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.280 to feel her out because she had been ready to 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.960 leave for a long time. And she was like, it's 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.120 just so bad. We're just fighting. I'll just I'll tell 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.840 you everything when you get here. I said, okay tomorrow 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:57.200 morning and she was like yeah, okay, and she was like, okay, 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:59.680 I gotta go. I think he's waking up. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.640 After their call, Maria sent a Facebook message letting her 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:09.960 know that she was going to talk to her boyfriend 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:14.960 about Jessica staying with them. Jessica then called Maria to 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.040 let her know she was at a doctor's appointment with 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.640 Grace and would have to see how things were when 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.880 she got home. This call was followed by a reply 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:28.480 from Jessica to Maria's original Facebook message. It came through 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:32.600 at two forty three in the afternoon. It read similar 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:34.640 to what she had told Maria over the. 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:38.360 Phone, Okay, just hang on. 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:40.960 I don't know what's going to happen when I get. 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:44.160 Home, and that was the last time I ever spoke 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:44.520 to her. 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:56.120 The day Maria had planned to pick up Jessica, August thirteenth, 0:08:56.360 --> 0:09:00.720 twenty nineteen, came and went without a word from her. 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:05.200 Maria thought maybe Jessica had gone home, and she and 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.679 Justin patched things up, anticipating she'd hear from her at 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:15.160 a later time, but instead, the following night, Wednesday, August fourteenth, 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.680 at nine pm, while Maria and her boyfriend were getting 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:23.560 ready for bed, her phone dinged. It was a message 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:28.040 from Justin, the one Maria described before, which set off 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:31.360 a chain of events here's their full exchange. 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:36.520 Is Jess with you? Grace and I are worried? If so, 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:38.600 that's fine. We just don't know where she is. And 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.680 Grace can't handle stress like this right now. 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:42.760 No, she's not. 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:45.199 When was the last time you spoke to her? 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:50.600 About noon today? And she left everything here? Keys, car, id, money? 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.680 What about her phone here? 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:52.960 Too? 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:54.760 Fucking weird? 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:56.240 Worried. 0:09:56.440 --> 0:10:00.160 She's never done this. I have no idea, checked everything 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:01.080 and everyone I know. 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:03.920 Okay, well, I'm sending the police over there. 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:06.360 Okay, you're gonna freak out, Grace. 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:09.080 But if Jonathan came home from work and all my 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.520 stuff was here and the kids didn't know where I was, 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:13.400 he'd already be talking to the police. 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.280 I know how to file a missing person's report. Do 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.800 you think I heard her or something? The police can't 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:22.199 do anything until after twenty four hours. She's an adult. 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:24.800 I'm checking hospitals in jails now. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:32.200 About an hour later, just after ten pm. 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:34.840 Called hospitals and both jails, and not any of them 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.480 called police and missing persons. It's twenty four hours after 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.560 last scene to file a report, I've got to be 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:42.240 missing something. 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.600 Of course by now, you know it wouldn't end up 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:53.080 taking an additional twenty four hours. In fact, police would 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.360 respond just minutes later after Maria called in for a 0:10:56.360 --> 0:11:00.360 wellness check. You heard the audio from this visit, but 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:03.800 remember just a couple hours later, around one am on 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:07.520 August fifteenth, a second unit would return to the home 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:11.439 to file a missing person's report. So, now that you're 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.880 up to speed, let's go back to the body cam 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:18.000 audio from that second visit, which came from responding officers 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:19.320 Gantner and Griffin. 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:26.720 When is the last time you saw her, sir? Twelve thirty? 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:27.640 Like late noon? 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:29.240 Correct? Around thirty? 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:34.080 Okay? And what was did you guys talk to each other? 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:34.280 Then? 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:42.040 Seated inside her cruiser, Officer Gantner plays liaison, asking Justin 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.920 some questions while relaying information over the phone to Detective 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.240 Anthony Lunn, who investigates missing person cases. 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:54.280 I see, so they talked, he said, they talked around 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.360 twelve thirty. They were talking about bills. They were talking 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:57.840 about what they were going to do later, what they 0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:59.920 were going to have for dinner. And he said that 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:01.560 she looked at him and said he looked tired, and 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.960 he said, I am. So he went and laid down 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:10.880 and then he hasn't seen or heard from her since then. Yeah, well, 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.160 what about there's two other people that live in the 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.040 house with you all, there's two other people that live 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:16.760 in the house with you. 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.600 Okay, has your daughter spoken to her? And your dad 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.120 has not spoken to her, hadn't seen her? 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:27.200 Okay, which is really what it's not dad, they. 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:28.240 Haven't the daughter. 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:29.200 How old is your daughter? 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:30.280 Good? 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.880 Fifteen year old daughter? And his elderly father haven't seen 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:37.440 her either. You saw her in person, right, yeah, he 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.439 saw her in person. She was here at the house. 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.720 So this this so you know, this is actually my neighbor. 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.200 He lives like three houses a week from me, and 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:47.520 he's a very strange. 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:48.680 What's that? 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.200 She leans back out of the cruiser to ask justin 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:53.640 another question. 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.400 You said, you guys haven't had any recent issues, right, No, 0:12:57.800 --> 0:12:59.040 in the recent issues? 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.120 My answers back to schoolship, you know. 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.040 Turning back to her phone call, she gets a little 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:07.880 more candid with Detective Line. 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:12.120 Here's my concern. He was not even worried about this 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:13.360 until her friend. 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:16.840 From out of states and officers over here to look 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.880 for her to make sure she was okay. Like he's 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:23.680 just rolled nonchalant, like, oh, uh, you know, have the 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:28.440 officers come to the polk straight side there? My dad 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:30.160 and my daughter are sleeping. I don't want to wake 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.200 them up. But then when we get here, he's like, 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.040 do you guys need to do this in the car 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:35.360 or do you want to come in? You can come 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.600 look through the house if you want. You know, he's 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.480 just being like, really weird about it. 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.000 Gantner tells one she's been trying to get in touch 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:50.319 with Maria to no avail. She then asks her partner, 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:53.920 officer Griffin, to look at the house for any visible cameras, 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:58.679 but he doesn't see any. Once more, she leans out 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.200 the window to clarify something with Justin. 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:05.439 Did she mention to you that she was going anywhere work? 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:06.800 Does she work? 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:07.600 No? 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:11.280 She long supp Okay, that's all right. 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:14.319 I was trying to figure out. I was trying to 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:14.719 figure out. 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:21.360 Yeah, see you has she left like this? People? And 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.120 it's not common for her to be gone like late 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:23.480 at night? 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:27.400 It was not especially since my daughter got out. 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.280 Okay, do you have do you have a picture of her, 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.240 like a current picture? Okay? Can you get that in 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:34.120 your please? 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:38.080 She asked Justin if they can come inside to get 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:42.800 a photo of Jessica. He graciously invites them in, warning 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:47.160 them about his jog. They make their way through the 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:51.200 side door by the driveway where Jessica's Range Rover is parked, 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.280 and step into the disheveled living room. 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:55.840 That's where. 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:00.840 Piles of clothes are mounted on the couch and strewn 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:06.400 across the floor just below. Next, the officers make their 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:11.240 way to the hallway and turn left, entering the couple's bedroom. 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:14.960 Austin Gantner pivots back to the matter at hand, this 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.480 time crying a little harder. 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:22.080 Okay, so what prompted you to say? Okay, I need 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:23.400 to report her missing? 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:25.960 Like around eight o'clock it was starting to get dark. 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:28.160 Okay, what e did you wake up from? 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:28.240 Me? 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:28.440 Now? 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:31.400 From here about four o'clock? She got home at three? 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:35.520 Uh kind of what stopped Rick? She Uh, she woke 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:39.640 me up with something I had to sign. Okay, okay, 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:44.840 She's like, Dad, you're dead at the world. I'm like, yeah, yeah, you. 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:51.680 Were sleeping in here. You were sleeping in here, right yeah, okay, yeah, my. 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:53.240 Daughter's rooms right on the other side. 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.280 I said, if you see mom, if you you know 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:56.720 what's what's going on? 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.680 And she goes, she goes and seen. 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:01.720 I was like, okay, And I know she had mentioned 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:03.280 about want her doctors. 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:07.200 It folesome, but there's no RTA to gets falsome. So 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.960 immediately I thought, we're friends with him. And he's older, 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.080 he's you know, his sixties, but his son's my age. 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.640 And I thought, well, maybe you know she got a 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:19.040 ride with him because sometimes he comes into the city. 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:23.840 I called him. No, that didn't happen. Honestly, don't don't 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:27.440 unless there's something. When I say, we you see this 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.840 for homebodies, we don't have much if when. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:36.360 I say, if there's something that I am absolutely oblivious to. 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:38.720 Does she have family here? 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:39.160 No? 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.880 You see from Do she have any like close friends here? 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.000 What I was telling you about that was on Facebook? 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:47.920 I mean, I'm moren't happy to pull it up wid you. 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:49.960 Has she updated anything on Facebook? 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:54.520 She hasn't logged on, she hasn't changed passwords to anything, 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.000 to our bank accounts to and she handles all the time. 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:58.680 I mean, she still has power returning on me. 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:03.240 I mean, I like you justin opens the tablet to 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.720 show the officers her Facebook page and then pulls up 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:09.520 a message from Maria that she'd sent to Jessica earlier 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.480 that day. This should sound familiar to you. 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.640 And this is the only thing that threw me was 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:19.520 I need to talk to about everything tonight when we 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:21.680 get home from practices. 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:23.440 So one of her sons. 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.280 And my wife put okay, hang on, but I mean, 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:27.280 I get all this on my mom. 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:31.520 The officers get the tablet from Justin and start looking 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:32.560 over the messages. 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.640 So what is she saying we need to talk about everything? 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:37.399 I have no idea. 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.080 I mean, the only thing I can think of was 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.399 is that maybe they were planning on doing something. So 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.840 I put there. You know, I'm like, would you think 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:45.760 I would hurt her or something? You know, I mean, 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:48.480 the girl doesn't like me, she never has. 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.600 Oh, okay, so this is y'all talking to you. 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.000 Yeah, the last conversation that yet, that's me talking to her. 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:57.280 And she she lives in Alabama. She lives in like 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.800 the hood in Alabama. She got like a litter of kids. 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:05.080 And my wife's always been the same year the rescuer. 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.280 It's just a man ass man. 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:15.200 Without any prompting, Justin randomly mentions a call he made 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:16.439 to his attorney friend. 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:19.160 I just don't understand if I could wrap my brain 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.800 around it. I think I'd be okay, you understand, but it. 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.879 Just doesn't make any freaking sense at all. It's just 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:29.200 just sudden it. You know, a good friend of mine's 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:32.439 a prominent lawyer here. I called him and I was like, 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:34.960 Ralph Wellen is his last name? Like Ralph? He goes, 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:39.080 I didn't remember what a reasonable person would believe? Like, okay, 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:41.879 you know, he goes, what's not reasonable this? 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:45.480 There's nothing reasonable about this, Like I said, the only 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:46.280 thing I can think of it. 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.560 But I mean, you guys deal it with domestics. 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:52.160 If somebody was gonna pick up and leave, they'd take 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:53.720 their ship right or something. 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:57.200 Mister Justin, we we are not going to And yeah, 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.080 I could do this and. 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:03.880 Say, well, well if someone did this, were not going 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.479 to do that, So okay, I'm going to have can 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:07.680 you get your ID in? Her ID? 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:08.280 Sirs. 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:13.000 Justin grabs his wallet from his back pocket and hands 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:17.000 over his ID. He then walks past their unmade bed 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.239 to the other side of the bedroom to pick up 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:22.960 her wallet from the floor, and again makes mention that 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:27.800 all her medications were there as he hands over her ID, which, 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:32.160 to clarify, is not a driver's license. It's a Louisiana 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:36.920 state ID with her name listed as Jessica Easterly, her 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:41.280 maiden name. The officers ask Justin for his phone number, 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:43.920 and he gives the same one he gave the first 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:47.320 unit who came out for the wellness check, the number 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:50.320 he claimed he'd been using since his phone was broken, 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:55.120 supposedly having fallen off his motorcycle. Just a note here. 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:58.760 While he states the phone number belongs to Jessica, her 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.560 friends and family, on the other hand, have it saved 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:05.000 as Justin's number in their phones and have a different 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:09.280 number saved as Jessica's. But regardless, it's the phone number 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.960 he'd claimed he'd been using as of late, and this 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:17.320 bit of information will be important as a story develops. 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.960 Back at the Journings home, officers ask for a photo 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:26.040 of Jessica, a physical one, but Justin claims he doesn't 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:30.399 have one that's not electronic, so instead he shows them 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.560 a screenshot of Jessica on the tablet and says he 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:34.520 will email. 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:35.560 It to them. 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:40.199 As the conversation continues, Justin tells the officers that he 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:43.600 has called local hospitals as well as a sheriff's office. 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:48.560 Looking for Jessica. Officer Gantner asks once more if there 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:53.040 was any arguing or fighting before Jessica went missing, and 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:55.719 Justin goes on to tell her that same story regarding 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:58.960 the pizza and the nap he took, but this time 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:00.240 a slightly differ. 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:04.000 And you said, when you spoke to her around twelve thirty, 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:07.280 there were no there was no arguing or anything like that. 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:08.919 She didn't say, hey, I'm gonna go. 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:10.959 She didn't tell me she was leaving it at all. 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:12.760 She said, you looked tired us that I am. She 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:14.760 had and made some little pizza. 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:17.000 What are you cool damn things? 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:18.120 The little pizza. 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:23.840 Pizza? Yeah, I guess the frozen ones. She went made those. 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.399 We eight, you know, just kind of in here, and 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:29.879 I mean, as far as I know, she was just 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.159 gonna do some work on the computer and and that 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:32.720 was it. 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:37.040 And then Justin tells the officer something he hadn't told 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:37.760 them yet. 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.680 And she haven't mentioned in that she had been kind 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:42.800 of in a depressive cycle. 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:44.879