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Speaker 1: matter such as violence and graphic descriptions which may not

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Speaker 1: be suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. On

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Speaker 1: the night of Wednesday, August fourteenth, twenty nineteen, two officers

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Speaker 1: responded to a wellness check at the Dernings home in Lakeview.

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Speaker 1: It was called in by Jessica's friend Maria after not

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Speaker 1: hearing from her for nearly two days. The officer spoke

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Speaker 1: with Jessica's husband, Justin, for about seven minutes, and upon leaving,

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Speaker 1: they let him know that another squad would be coming

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Speaker 1: out to file a missing persons report. Just a few

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Speaker 1: hours later, around one o'clock in the morning Thursday, August fifteenth,

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Speaker 1: Senior Officer Lucretia Gantner and rookie Officer Tristan Griffin arrive

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Speaker 1: at the residence. This is their bodycam audio, which we

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Speaker 1: obtained from the family.

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Speaker 2: Three five A third District.

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Speaker 3: Here you.

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Speaker 1: While Officer Griffin talks to Justin outside, Officer Gantner calls

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Speaker 1: Detective Anthony Lunn from inside her police cruiser and explains

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we're at.

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Speaker 3: Earlier tonight, around ten something, a friend from out of

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Speaker 2: I think she's not answering her phone and all that.

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Speaker 3: So an officer came out here, I think a leaf

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Speaker 3: few officers came out did a wellness check. Well, when

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Speaker 3: they did the wellness check, the husband says, no, I

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Speaker 3: haven't heard from her either. Her phone's here, her purse's here,

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Speaker 3: her meds are here, everything's here, But I haven't heard

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Speaker 3: from her, and I don't know where she's at. And

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Speaker 3: the friend that called from out of town said that

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Speaker 3: she's afraid that the husband did something to her because

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Speaker 2: I guess domestic issues.

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Speaker 1: Now, before we get into the remainder of the bodycam audio,

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Speaker 1: it's important that we addressed the weighty statement made by

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Speaker 1: Maria because there's some context to it. It started about

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Speaker 1: nine months earlier, near the end of twenty twenty. I'll

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Speaker 1: let Maria fill you in.

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Speaker 4: When they came to stay in my home at Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: My middle son is in.

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Speaker 4: Competitive cheer and they had a two day competition scheduled

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Speaker 4: for the end of January early February in New Orleans.

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Speaker 4: They were getting packed up ready to leave.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: She was like, I'm so sad.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to leave. And I was like, I know,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to miss you. And I was like, well,

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Speaker 4: as a competition in New Orleans and it's a two

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Speaker 4: She was like, yeah, of course, And you know, I

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Speaker 4: three days. Of course they were going to say yes,

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Speaker 4: I get this text from her and she says, Hey.

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Speaker 5: I need to talk to you about this weekend. I'm

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Speaker 5: We've been fighting, like fighting for the past three days

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Speaker 5: He told me, you guys can't come, or it's going

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Speaker 5: I'm so sorry. I know it's the last minute, and

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Speaker 5: I feel awful. I don't know what to do. I

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Speaker 5: We say they're a lot, or we used to hell.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was kind of an upsetting text to get,

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Speaker 4: and she was like, I'm so sorry. You know, maybe

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Speaker 4: but aren't you done with this yet? Like are you tired?

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Speaker 4: You have to be tired, Like you're not getting any younger,

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Speaker 4: Most of the people in her life didn't know what

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Speaker 4: she was going through, because you know, you don't just

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Speaker 4: tell people all your dirty laundry. So that's why I

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Speaker 4: knew to be patient with her about it. It had

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Speaker 1: Maria waited as patiently as she could, and then seven

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Speaker 1: just two days before police responded to wellness check. Jessica

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Speaker 4: I slid the phone open and put it on the speakerphone.

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Speaker 4: I was like hey, she said hey. I said, what's

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Speaker 4: But if you're really ready to go, I could be

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Speaker 4: no looking back and turning back into a pillar. Assault,

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Speaker 1: After their call, Maria sent a Facebook message letting her

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Speaker 1: from Jessica to Maria's original Facebook message. It came through

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Speaker 9: Phone, Okay, just hang on.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what's going to happen when I get.

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Speaker 4: Home, and that was the last time I ever spoke

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Speaker 1: The day Maria had planned to pick up Jessica, August thirteenth,

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Speaker 1: Justin patched things up, anticipating she'd hear from her at

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Speaker 10: Is Jess with you? Grace and I are worried? If so,

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Speaker 10: that's fine. We just don't know where she is. And

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Speaker 10: Grace can't handle stress like this right now.

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Speaker 7: No, she's not.

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Speaker 5: When was the last time you spoke to her?

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Speaker 10: About noon today? And she left everything here? Keys, car, id, money?

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Speaker 7: What about her phone here?

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Speaker 10: Fucking weird?

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Speaker 10: She's never done this. I have no idea, checked everything

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Speaker 5: Okay, well, I'm sending the police over there.

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Speaker 10: Okay, you're gonna freak out, Grace.

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Speaker 5: But if Jonathan came home from work and all my

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Speaker 10: I know how to file a missing person's report. Do

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Speaker 10: you think I heard her or something? The police can't

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Speaker 10: do anything until after twenty four hours. She's an adult.

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Speaker 10: Called hospitals and both jails, and not any of them

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Speaker 1: Of course by now, you know it wouldn't end up

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Speaker 2: When is the last time you saw her, sir? Twelve thirty?

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Speaker 12: Correct? Around thirty?

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Speaker 2: Okay? And what was did you guys talk to each other?

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Speaker 12: Then?

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Speaker 1: Seated inside her cruiser, Officer Gantner plays liaison, asking Justin

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Speaker 1: Anthony Lunn, who investigates missing person cases.

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Speaker 3: I see, so they talked, he said, they talked around

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Speaker 3: twelve thirty. They were talking about bills. They were talking

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Speaker 3: were going to have for dinner. And he said that

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Speaker 3: she looked at him and said he looked tired, and

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Speaker 3: he said, I am. So he went and laid down

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Speaker 3: and then he hasn't seen or heard from her since then. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 3: what about there's two other people that live in the

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Speaker 2: Okay, has your daughter spoken to her? And your dad

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Speaker 12: Okay, which is really what it's not dad, they.

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Speaker 3: Haven't the daughter.

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Speaker 2: How old is your daughter?

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Speaker 3: Fifteen year old daughter? And his elderly father haven't seen

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Speaker 3: So this this so you know, this is actually my neighbor.

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Speaker 2: Here's my concern. He was not even worried about this

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Speaker 2: Did she mention to you that she was going anywhere work?

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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 3: She long supp Okay, that's all right.

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Speaker 12: I was trying to figure out. I was trying to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, see you has she left like this? People? And

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Speaker 11: It was not especially since my daughter got out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do you have do you have a picture of her,

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Speaker 12: That's where.

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Speaker 1: Piles of clothes are mounted on the couch and strewn

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Speaker 3: Okay, so what prompted you to say? Okay, I need

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Speaker 12: Like around eight o'clock it was starting to get dark.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what e did you wake up from?

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Speaker 12: From here about four o'clock? She got home at three?

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Speaker 12: Uh kind of what stopped Rick? She Uh, she woke

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Speaker 12: me up with something I had to sign. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 12: She's like, Dad, you're dead at the world. I'm like, yeah, yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Were sleeping in here. You were sleeping in here, right yeah, okay, yeah, my.

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Speaker 6: I said, if you see mom, if you you know

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Speaker 12: And she goes, she goes and seen.

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Speaker 11: I was like, okay, And I know she had mentioned

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Speaker 12: immediately I thought, we're friends with him. And he's older,

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Speaker 11: And I thought, well, maybe you know she got a

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Speaker 12: I called him. No, that didn't happen. Honestly, don't don't

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Speaker 12: unless there's something. When I say, we you see this

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Speaker 12: for homebodies, we don't have much if when.

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Speaker 11: I say, if there's something that I am absolutely oblivious to.

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Speaker 2: Does she have family here?

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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 2: You see from Do she have any like close friends here?

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Speaker 12: What I was telling you about that was on Facebook?

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Speaker 12: I mean, I'm moren't happy to pull it up wid you.

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Speaker 2: Has she updated anything on Facebook?

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Speaker 11: She hasn't logged on, she hasn't changed passwords to anything,

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Speaker 11: to our bank accounts to and she handles all the time.

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Speaker 12: I mean, she still has power returning on me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I like you justin opens the tablet to

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Speaker 1: a message from Maria that she'd sent to Jessica earlier

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Speaker 11: And this is the only thing that threw me was

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Speaker 12: So one of her sons.

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Speaker 11: And my wife put okay, hang on, but I mean,

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Speaker 11: I get all this on my mom.

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Speaker 1: The officers get the tablet from Justin and start looking

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Speaker 12: So what is she saying we need to talk about everything?

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Speaker 12: I have no idea.

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Speaker 11: I put there. You know, I'm like, would you think

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Speaker 11: the girl doesn't like me, she never has.

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, so this is y'all talking to you.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, the last conversation that yet, that's me talking to her.

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Speaker 12: And she she lives in Alabama. She lives in like

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Speaker 11: And my wife's always been the same year the rescuer.

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Speaker 12: It's just a man ass man.

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Speaker 1: Without any prompting, Justin randomly mentions a call he made

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Speaker 11: I just don't understand if I could wrap my brain

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Speaker 12: Just doesn't make any freaking sense at all. It's just

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Speaker 12: Ralph Wellen is his last name? Like Ralph? He goes,

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Speaker 12: I didn't remember what a reasonable person would believe? Like, okay,

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Speaker 12: you know, he goes, what's not reasonable this?

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Speaker 11: There's nothing reasonable about this, Like I said, the only

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Speaker 12: But I mean, you guys deal it with domestics.

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Speaker 11: If somebody was gonna pick up and leave, they'd take

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Speaker 2: Mister Justin, we we are not going to And yeah,

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Speaker 3: Say, well, well if someone did this, were not going

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Speaker 2: Sirs.

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Speaker 1: Justin grabs his wallet from his back pocket and hands

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Speaker 1: While he states the phone number belongs to Jessica, her

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Speaker 1: he'd claimed he'd been using as of late, and this

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Speaker 1: Back at the Journings home, officers ask for a photo

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Speaker 2: It to them.

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Speaker 1: Looking for Jessica. Officer Gantner asks once more if there

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Speaker 3: And you said, when you spoke to her around twelve thirty,

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Speaker 2: She didn't say, hey, I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 12: She didn't tell me she was leaving it at all.

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Speaker 12: She said, you looked tired us that I am. She

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Speaker 5: What are you cool damn things?

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Speaker 2: The little pizza.

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Speaker 12: We eight, you know, just kind of in here, and

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Speaker 1: And then Justin tells the officer something he hadn't told

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Speaker 11: And she haven't mentioned in that she had been kind

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Speaker 12: Mm and kind of couldn't get over it.

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Speaker 11: I'm like, maybe we spent thirteen thousand, we wiped out

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Speaker 12: I was like maybe just you know, we just need

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Speaker 12: She keeps everything inside.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't want to be sexist, but women tend

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Speaker 3: I've lived here for three years now and I've never

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Speaker 3: It's actually my neighbor and they live three houses away

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Speaker 1: She takes a few minutes to get her sergeant up

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what I told Griffin.

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Speaker 3: I've lived here for three years now, and I see

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Speaker 3: Didn't you get that feeling. Yeah, he's like overly explaining

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Speaker 12: She's all she punched.

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Speaker 2: The one thing that.

445
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: Was weird is he.

446
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: Told the friend I contacted the police.

447
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 3: And the police said that I can't report her missing

448
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 3: for twenty four hours, which is bullshit. We would never

449
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 3: tell anybody that, And the dispatcher's not or the call

450
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 3: taker's not.

451
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 2: Going to tell somebody that.

452
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 3: The whole thing is just like something's not right, because

453
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: the whole thing is very sketchy, to use his word,

454
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 3: and it kind of makes me a little uneasy because

455
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 3: he lives three.

456
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: Houses away from me. But anyway, let me help him

457
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: with this.

458
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 3: I just wanted to let you know because it does

459
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 3: seem very unusual to me.

460
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 9: His story sounds rehearsed.

461
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: As the officers wrap up the call and finish their paperwork,

462
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: they start a search for any calls or complaints filed

463
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: from the address, specifically looking for any domestic calls.

464
00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: Spell her last name.

465
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 12: It s t E.

466
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: A story.

467
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 12: Okay, can you put an address in the EPR.

468
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: The search doesn't come back with anything, and through our

469
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: own public records request, it appears as though Jessica had

470
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 1: never reached out to law enforcement.

471
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: They probably don't call the police when they have issues.

472
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 2: A lot of people, don't, you know, well especially Yeah.

473
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: The officers exit the vehicle and return to Justin to

474
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: wrap things up, said, I want.

475
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:49,479
Speaker 2: To walk through the entire house. The dogs still up.

476
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 3: Okay, we have to fill out a missing personal for

477
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: David with you anytime there's somebody missing, and then this

478
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: is what we send you.

479
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: Justin reads over the report and then signs the affidavit.

480
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: After doing so, the officers asked for some clarification.

481
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 3: One last time, you did talk to your daughter and

482
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 3: asked your daughter if she'd heard from her or actually

483
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: seen her.

484
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 12: I mean, I'd rather wake up. If you want me

485
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 12: to get her, I will.

486
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: No, I don't have to wake her up.

487
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 12: It's two lots one morning.

488
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: She has to go to school tomorrow.

489
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 11: She does, but no, she and I right before you

490
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 11: guys actually shut up.

491
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 12: Right after the first two showed up.

492
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 11: I went in there and asked her, I said, did

493
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 11: you see the commotions?

494
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 12: She's like, I don't know what commotion?

495
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: Okay. But prior to that, did you ask her if

496
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: she had seen her mind? Yeah?

497
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 11: Yeah, okay, of course I was like no, And I

498
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 11: didn't make a big deal out of it, because it

499
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 11: was a big deal.

500
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 12: Just she had you know what I mean.

501
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: And you said she just had jeans and a T

502
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 3: shirt on. You don't remember, like what color T shirt?

503
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 3: Or did she have shoes on? You know what kind of.

504
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 12: Shoes were betting the piece of roles? Okay, I mean that's.

505
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: What she had on.

506
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 11: When okay, you know, and I checked, I went on.

507
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't finish that thought but it's what he said

508
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: just before that that stood out to Todd me. Earlier,

509
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: he told officers that he alone went to bed and

510
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: when he woke up, he found a pizza that Jessica

511
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: had made in the kitchen, and Jessica was gone. This time,

512
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: he claims they were in bed together eating pizza rolls.

513
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: Possibly just a slip up, but still interesting.

514
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: Nonetheless, Now being that you lived so close to me,

515
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 3: I just want to let you know. If something happens,

516
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 3: don't come knocking on my door. All right, call on

517
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 3: on one or there's going to be a detective. Contact you,

518
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 3: contact the third district, instick to the detective.

519
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: But just don't come knocking on my door.

520
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I just want to make that player, okay.

521
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: The officers leave the house with the report and signed off,

522
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: a David in hand and start heading back to their cruiser.

523
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: Justin follows them out and tells the officers the same

524
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: thing he told the other officers he came out for

525
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: the wellness check about his aspirations for joining the force.

526
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 12: Here I am looking at JPSOD. I just I'm home

527
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 12: too much.

528
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 11: Just my kid even tells like Dad, you know, I'm like, well,

529
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 11: I just don't know if I could do the message.

530
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: John yell.

531
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 13: Anyway, and I have a really good friends with people.

532
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 13: My best friend really is black. Of course Michael loves that.

533
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 13: But he I call him and he was like, well,

534
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 13: let's go recon see what you do. I'm like, man,

535
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 13: I gotta stay here and see what's going on.

536
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 12: But anyway, you know, he just you.

537
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 11: Know a lot of people, and I walk past your

538
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 11: house constantly, gone to meet him because he's got I

539
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 11: can't say a little.

540
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 12: Bit lesson John.

541
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: Eventually, Officer Gantner reels.

542
00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 9: Him back in.

543
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 12: He's actually the armor for n cis New Orleans.

544
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 11: Okay, people here them completely Field Strip fifteen.

545
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, you don't remember that's I member for the report. Okay, thanks,

546
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: and a detective to other Like.

547
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: I mean, if like there's anybody that you can call

548
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: that I know where she is or you know that's

549
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 3: the only thing I can tell you, or if you

550
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 3: know where you know a place she might go to

551
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 3: or something, if you want to go look, or if

552
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: you can tell us and we'll go look.

553
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 6: If I'd be more than happy about.

554
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 11: But I mean, like I said, the one place that

555
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 11: she goes is to bed she has over miles and

556
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 11: she's depressed by polar so you shouldn't have a great.

557
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: Right, great right anyway, I know, and then if she,

558
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 3: if she contacts you or comes home, let us know,

559
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: tell nine on one and called.

560
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 12: The district call nine three.

561
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, all right, and reference that item number when

562
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: you call. Okay, all right, thank you. Version, that's okay.

563
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 12: I mean, I'm not asking for parental advice. You've master

564
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 12: which is on my kid. I mean it's the truth.

565
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell her you had to make a missing person

566
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: report that you haven't seen her since twelve thirty.

567
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's your kid.

568
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: You can tell her whatever you want, but I mean

569
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: I would, I would be honest with her.

570
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah anyway, okay, all right, thank you.

571
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: Following the visit, Jessica's missing person's bulletin is issued within

572
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: the in OPD Jessica Renee Easterly five six, one hundred

573
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: and thirty pounds, brown hair, brown eyes, Celtic TAK two

574
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: on groin. The missing person report and affidavit reads.

575
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 7: Mister Justin Derning stated his wife, Miss Jessica Easterly, was

576
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 7: last seen on Wednesday, August fourteenth, twenty nineteen, at approximately

577
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 7: twelve thirty pm. Mister Derning stated that she was last

578
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 7: seen wearing a T shirt and jeans. If Miss Jessica

579
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 7: Easterly is found, please notify Third District DIIU. Upon arrival,

580
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 7: the officers met with a reporting person, mister Justin Derney,

581
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 7: who stated the following. Miss Jessica Easterly was last seen

582
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 7: on Wednesday, August fourteenth, twenty nineteen, at approximately one pm

583
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 7: before mister Justin.

584
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 12: Went to bed.

585
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 7: Mister Justin woke up from sleeping on the same day

586
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 7: at approximately three pm to find his wife missing. Mister

587
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 7: Derning observed missus Easterly's purse, wallet, phone, and keys left

588
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 7: at the residence. Mister Derning did not observe any missing

589
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 7: items from their home. The household's only vehicle was still

590
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 7: in the driveway. He observed no changes to her social media.

591
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 7: Mister Darning stated that his wife suffers from bipolar and depression.

592
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 7: Her medicine was left at the residence. Mister Darning contacted

593
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 7: local hospitals and jails about his wife's whereabouts, but was

594
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 7: met with negative results. It should be noted that a

595
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 7: wellness check was requested by one of Easterly's friends earlier

596
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 7: that day, Officer Gantner called Easterly, but no one picked

597
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 7: up on the line. Officer Gantner notified Third District Person

598
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 7: Crimes Detective A Line Unit one three three five.

599
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: And with that, Detective Anthony Lunn is officially assigned to

600
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: the case. Six hundred thousand people go missing every year

601
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: in the US, according to the National Missing and Unidentified

602
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: Person System known as NAMES. As I write this, in

603
00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: Louisiana there are four hundred and sixteen open missing persons cases,

604
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: and in New Orleans there are thirty five missing persons

605
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: in the name of database. Now Jessica had become one

606
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: of them, but she's obviously more than a statistic. She's

607
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: a friend, a sister, a daughter, a wife, a stepmother.

608
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: Though right now what mattered was she was missing and

609
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: hope was fading fast.

610
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 4: Then the next day I was actually with my girlfriend

611
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 4: that lives here, and she was like, so, what's going

612
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 4: on with that? And so I was kind of bringing

613
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 4: her up to speed on it, and I was like,

614
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do. She was like, are

615
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 4: you going to feel bad if something terrible has happened

616
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 4: to her? I was like, yeah, of course, I forever

617
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: there was a part of me that really wanted to

618
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 4: believe she just had someone else, because she was very

619
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 4: concerned that if she did come stay with me, he

620
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 4: would just be right behind her, he would know exactly

621
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 4: to find her. I was holding out some hope that

622
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: she was okay, but I didn't feel like she was okay.

623
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: While Maria was not feeling too hopeful about the situation.

624
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: What's really sad is that at the time, Jessica's family

625
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: wasn't even aware of her disappearance. Amidst all the chaos,

626
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: they were never informed Maria wasn't in contact with the family.

627
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: Back then, it would have required justin or the police

628
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: saying something that didn't happen, But just two days later

629
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: they'd learned the news in a rather unconventional way. It

630
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: was Saturday, August seventeenth, on what would normally be a

631
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: very special day. Jessica's sister, Audrey calls her to wish

632
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: her happy forty third birthday. Her call goes unanswered. Then

633
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: the next day, Audrey pulls up Jessica's Facebook page and

634
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: sees post that stops her cold.

635
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 8: I've always talked to my sister on her birthday, but

636
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 8: that day I just.

637
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 14: Thought she was out. Then on the eighteenth, when I

638
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 14: got home from work, I seen.

639
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: Maria.

640
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 12: We have mutual friends.

641
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 14: I seen Maria's post about Jessica missing, and I was like,

642
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 14: holy shit. So I of course tried to contact Maria.

643
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 14: She was already asleep, and she called me the next

644
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 14: morning and told me everything. And then I called my

645
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 14: sister and.

646
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 12: I called my.

647
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 14: Parents and they're like, oh, no, she's fine. Maybe they

648
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 14: had a fight. She went over to a friend's house.

649
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 1: Maria, still clinging to that last bit of hope, also

650
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: tried reaching out to Jessica on her birthday.

651
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 4: I was like, she would not let me wonder if

652
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 4: she's alive or dead on her birthday, Like by now

653
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 4: she would have reached out and let me know, hey,

654
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 4: I'm safe, leave me alone. I'm just gonna stay safe

655
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 4: for a while. And I've been like, cool, run, Bambi, run,

656
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 4: you know you need some money, Like what do you need?

657
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 4: But she wouldn't have let me wonder that long.

658
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: That Sunday afternoon on August eighteenth, Maria calls NPD multiple

659
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: times and struggles to get anywhere, talking with person after person.

660
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: Seemingly no one can tell her anything, and then finally

661
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: a detective reaches back out to her, she gives him

662
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: a rundown of what had happened a few days before.

663
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 4: And so they were like, okay, well we'll go over

664
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 4: there and we'll check on her. Chances are she's probably

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Speaker 4: home now, and she's just not allowed to talk to

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Speaker 4: you because you're the friend. And if she's in this

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Speaker 4: relationship like you say she is, you're probably just cut

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Speaker 4: off because she tried to leave. So she's probably home now.

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Speaker 4: Everything's probably fine. Super dismissive. I was like, she's not fine,

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Speaker 4: and she would let me know if she was fine,

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Speaker 4: and she certainly just wouldn't be fucking home and fine

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Speaker 4: and let me worry about her, especially not when I'm

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Speaker 4: putting her on glasses, missing all over social media. And

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Speaker 4: so they went over there and they knocked on the

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Speaker 4: door and they were like, well, I yuess, he's not home.

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Speaker 4: But he was like sending me hostile texts about sending

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Speaker 4: the police to his house. I was like, that's funny

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Speaker 4: that you think he's not home because he's texting me

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Speaker 4: about y'all being there right fucking now. They're just like, sorry,

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Speaker 4: he can't make anything happen.

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Speaker 1: Amidst all the frustration and uncertainty, Maria, Audrey, and the

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Speaker 1: rest of Jessica's family did their best to remain steadfast.

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Speaker 8: I of course, still had that little bit of hope,

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Speaker 8: you know, like maybe she's just she's just somewhere. And

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Speaker 8: then we decided to call the hospitals and stuff, domestic

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Speaker 8: violin shelters, Gel's the corner the morgue, and no one

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Speaker 8: she wasn't there.

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Speaker 1: Days of confusion turned into a week of sleepless nights.

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Speaker 1: That's when Jessica's family took matters into their own hands.

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Speaker 1: Her sisters, Audrey and Amanda decided it was time to

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Speaker 1: pay a visit to New Orleans, a visit that would

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Speaker 1: end up taking them to the neighborhood of Lakeview, where

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Speaker 1: Jessica was last seen. Their cousin Doug, made the trek

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Speaker 1: with them.

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Speaker 15: I was talking to Amanda on the phone and she

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Speaker 15: was kind of filling me in about the whole thing

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Speaker 15: with Jessica. I mean, something's not right here. And she

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Speaker 15: had discussed going down to New Orleans talking to Project

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Speaker 15: and talking with the detectives down there. And we went

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Speaker 15: to the detectives to go talk with them, and they weren't.

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Speaker 15: They weren't there, So we had decided to kind of

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Speaker 15: do our own little thing kind of canvas area a

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Speaker 15: little bit, kind of get an idea, kind of get

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Speaker 15: a feeling for it. And it's a very big residential area.

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Speaker 15: And at the end of both sides of this huge

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Speaker 15: residential area were water. You try to apply logic to it. Okay, well,

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Speaker 15: this would be a good place to form a search part.

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Speaker 9: Let's get a little more familiar with it.

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Speaker 15: Did you never expect to actually find anything?

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Speaker 9: You really don't?

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