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Speaker 1: Williams introduction. How you doing my friend here? Right? I

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Speaker 1: about your career, your life. You're an HBCU grad correct

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Speaker 1: the same spelling for social media as well. Yes, And

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Speaker 1: on social media you can find this at um get

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Speaker 1: empowered with g et empowered spelt you know, the same

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Speaker 1: Instagram and on Twitter and on Facebook, it's just empowered apps.

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Speaker 1: Look up there you can find us and and uh

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Speaker 1: you'll be able to follow us there. And we're pretty active.

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Speaker 1: We post a lot of advocacy driven information and news

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Speaker 1: and uh and trying to focus on local engagement well

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Speaker 1: because we believe that's a really important thing. I appreciate you,

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Speaker 1: I really do, and I appreciate you coming on my show,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I created this show so lanes of

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Speaker 1: information like this can be made public because there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand why this should be made public.

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Speaker 1: Because you spread the words stronger, more people know, more

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Speaker 1: people know, more people are educated. And that's why I

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Speaker 1: considered an UH an app for academia. An education meets

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Speaker 1: in a political arena where you can empower people to

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Speaker 1: be to control their lives and especially in the world

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Speaker 1: of social media. Thank you Harsh Williams for calling money

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Speaker 1: making conversations