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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome the season sixteen, episode four

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Speaker 1: of their Daily Sight Guys Yah for February first, two

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Speaker 1: thousand eight teen. My name is Jack O'Brien a K.

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Speaker 1: Jack tooson Tolerant uh courtesy of Hector Ramirez, and I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by my co host Muster Miles Gray. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking about my A K and I

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Speaker 1: want to today. I want to do something nice. I

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Speaker 1: want to give a birthday shout out to Ellen, who

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Speaker 1: is the mother of Sophie, our project manager. I have

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Speaker 1: forgotten the a K A to wish her a happy birthday,

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Speaker 1: so that's for me to you mom a good one

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Speaker 1: because we all love our mother. I was great, AK

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Speaker 1: happy birthday, Ellen? Or that's right there? Like I like that.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Uh. Well, we're thrilled to be joined by

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Speaker 1: the very funny Sarah Schaeffer. Oh you know, like you're

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Speaker 1: kind of living it thriving. I see, I see you

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Speaker 1: with that die dr member. Yeah, I got great d

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Speaker 1: D man happy pursuit. Sarah was bragging before we started

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Speaker 1: rolling that she can taste when a diet dctor pepper

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Speaker 1: has turned anastic expiration. But which is press? Uh? Sarah,

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Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that I was

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Speaker 1: kind of horrified. Uh. Two recent ones. One was slang

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Speaker 1: for drug addict. I don't remember what I was I

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Speaker 1: was writing something, okay, I wanted something other than junkie.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I was writing, but I must

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Speaker 1: don't know. It might have been about my addiction to

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Speaker 1: diet dr Pepper, because I did tweet about the fiend. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't you find any good ones? You'd even remember what

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Speaker 1: came up? I can't remember, remember, just being like, well,

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Speaker 1: I guess junkie is the best, but I don't want

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Speaker 1: to be offensive, you know. He realized like s beaking offensive.

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Speaker 1: My other one that I literally the last thing I

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Speaker 1: need to explain after I say, okay, hey, no judgment.

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Speaker 1: You will not be able to First of all, can

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Speaker 1: I say bad words? Oh, you can say all the

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Speaker 1: bad words cocksucker offensive? Um, that's not like the offensive

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Speaker 1: I was. So. I know that that term is offensive.

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Speaker 1: It can be homophobic, and I was trying to explain

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Speaker 1: which I do often when I know something is wrong

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Speaker 1: or an argument, I'll google to supplement so that because

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure i'm I'm communicating the most

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Speaker 1: to help me with that. Each one, teach one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: usually what I end up finding was what I thought

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Speaker 1: it was. But I just what was there? Like a

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Speaker 1: think piece on it? There's many, Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's some.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's it was a conversation about words, certain

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Speaker 1: you know, do you want to be on? Which side

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Speaker 1: of history do you want to be on? And I said, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: cox sucker is one of them. And that's a word

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Speaker 1: you say a lot, not you. Yeah, I'm the person

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Speaker 1: I was speaking to who I won't say who it is, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to embarrass them. I've just been looking

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Speaker 1: and they're you're right, that's onnes gang. Let's get some slang,

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Speaker 1: like more slang words I've heard like like freak, zeal it, habitue, aficionado, pound,

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Speaker 1: I think fiend and freak are good, good ones. But

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Speaker 1: what something you think is underrated? There? Um? Oh, I

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Speaker 1: wrote these down, um underrated silence. Nice. I believe silence

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Speaker 1: We do know how to count. Silence is underrated. You

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna try and exercise that today. But we'll

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Speaker 1: get that. Get to that in a second. You know,

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Speaker 1: I love silence too also for like where I choose

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Speaker 1: In general, I think people don't understand that silence is

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Speaker 1: like actually very hard to come by in like our

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Speaker 1: urban sprawl world, where like people like I want to

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Speaker 1: I want to hear the wind. Baby. So yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: Jasmine breeze. Yeah, what do you think is overrated? Moral

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Speaker 1: high ground? So being on the moral high ground is

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Speaker 1: overrated because it doesn't exist. Everyone is a hypocrite. Did

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Speaker 1: the pot. No, they haven't such shape other movies. Shape

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Speaker 1: of Water, I felt is overrated. I thought I was

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Speaker 1: the way that other people were like, so beautiful. I

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Speaker 1: hitting on the dude at the pie store and that's

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Speaker 1: enjoy this time together and see silence. All right, We're

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Speaker 1: trying to take a sample of what people are thinking

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Speaker 1: and talking about right now today, at the moment that

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Speaker 1: we record this podcast, and uh, today we're going to

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Speaker 1: take a break from one subject. We're gonna go Trump

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Speaker 1: Let's take a little breather. What do you think, Miles?

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Speaker 1: I think we need to because this show could easily

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Speaker 1: just become the what the funk is happening with Donald Trump?

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Speaker 1: Today's show? Right? Yeah, so silence. We don't have to

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Speaker 1: comment on everything, like you said, exactly ignore the We'll

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Speaker 1: that way. But the way we like to open things

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Speaker 1: is a myth that's out there? Look? CrossFit cross people

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Speaker 1: almost twenty years. The Control of Nature, and it's three sections.

426
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Speaker 1: One is about the mountains in southern California where there's

427
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Speaker 1: mud flow and briefs which just happened in Montecito, and

428
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: that people keep that. His basic thesis is that humans

429
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: have a memory of like fifteen years and they'll just

430
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Speaker 1: rebuild on a place that is not safe for humans.

431
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: And then he has a whole section that's fascinating about

432
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Speaker 1: the Army Corps of Engineers UH and the Misses history

433
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: of the Mississippi River in New Orleans. And he basically

434
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Speaker 1: predicted Katrina in this book. And I read the book

435
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: when I lived in New Orleans, and I mean my

436
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: apartment would flood when it rained hard. You know, like

437
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: this isn't going to go well if it, um, And

438
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 1: I ended up leaving going to New York, and then

439
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: Katrina happened, and I was like, he was right, it's

440
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Speaker 1: a bowl, you know, and like so it's a really

441
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Speaker 1: interesting book. And I think about a lot. And that's

442
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Speaker 1: not to say I blame anybody for living in you know,

443
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Speaker 1: um dangerous areas, Like humans are very have a lot

444
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Speaker 1: of ingenuity and how to deal with stuff. But I

445
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: think if you live somewhere where there is a history

446
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: of this stuff and they're like, hey, maybe you should leave.

447
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: It might rain tonight, leave like you know, um, I

448
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: don't want to victim blame you know, you know anyone

449
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: who was hurt in those mud sides, but you know

450
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: what I mean, it's just it's a another nature will

451
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Speaker 1: destroy you. Was like a year old guy who they

452
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: were trying to get to leave his house and he

453
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: was like, no, I think I'm gonna go down with

454
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Speaker 1: my house. And then as he ended up dying, his

455
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: house like went down like a mountain side. And like,

456
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Speaker 1: on the one hand, you know, that sucks, and I'm

457
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Speaker 1: sure as loved ones were like, dude, you should have

458
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Speaker 1: just left. On the other hand, that's like a pretty

459
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Speaker 1: boss way ago if you're taking in the risk and

460
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Speaker 1: going I don't care, then that's one thing. But if

461
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Speaker 1: you're like I just kept hearing the news people being

462
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Speaker 1: like I've never seen anything like this, and it's like, well,

463
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: there actually is a lot of history of this happening

464
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Speaker 1: an entire in the control of nature. He describes an

465
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Speaker 1: entire like town being completely wiped out and then you know,

466
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Speaker 1: fifteen years it or they're building a new village on

467
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Speaker 1: on it, you know, and so it's it's it's a

468
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: it's an interesting cycle the human If people haven't read

469
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: John McPhee, he's incredible. Uh. Yeah, that book sounds amazing.

470
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Speaker 1: I read a book called Assembling California that's about geology

471
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: and like how the plates came together to form California.

472
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: California like sailed across the Pacific Ocean to get here,

473
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Speaker 1: and uh, is completely different from other parts of the

474
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Speaker 1: United States. But um, the parallels culturally as well. Yeah, exactly. Uh,

475
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: and all of its people came over on that and

476
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Speaker 1: let's go back to see but yeah, he has a

477
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Speaker 1: description in there of I think it was the north

478
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Speaker 1: Ridge earthquake, or maybe it was the earthquake that happened

479
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Speaker 1: in San Francisco actually around the World Series when the

480
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Speaker 1: world remember that, Yeah, my dad lifted me. I think

481
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Speaker 1: we felt it down here. But his description of his head,

482
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Speaker 1: so it's my memory, my favorite. I don't know, like

483
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: like surfs up dude, Like, well, that's why I didn't

484
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Speaker 1: realize cause I'm new to California. Like the most danger

485
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: and it depends on where you live. But um, the

486
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: thing I read was like you're most danger from things

487
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: flying through the air bricks like inside and outside. And

488
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: they're saying in California, actually like running outside is not

489
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: recommended because things are falling, and but in Mexico they're

490
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: saying that actually running outside is recommended because of the land.

491
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Speaker 1: There is a different type of land, and often it's

492
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: a different type of like people don't really know. Yeah,

493
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: they talked about how like landfill is the thing you

494
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: don't want to be on top of, and like we

495
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: we think landfill, we think of, you know, a garbage dump,

496
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: but landfill is anything that was like filled in by

497
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Speaker 1: man to like build on top of. And like a

498
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: whole neighborhood in San Francisco was just like demolished because

499
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Speaker 1: it was on landfill. But yeah, he has like it

500
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: opens with this description of like a guy who's just

501
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: standing there and like the ground just like you know,

502
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: diving boards him up and he lands like straight down

503
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Speaker 1: on his head like and then there's like a house

504
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: that just walks down the street because of like it's

505
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: just like in time with the rhythm of the earth.

506
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, we were talking about water supply and uh

507
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: for people who aren't from California and who have lawns

508
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: and are you know I loved him Missouri for like

509
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: three years and people are very serious about their lawns

510
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: out there. But you know, keeping grass green sucks up

511
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: fifty to seventy percent of residential water. Um, so that's

512
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, that's why out here, like people were shaming

513
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Speaker 1: you for having a lawn, Like when the drought started,

514
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: you would look at people who had grass lawns, like,

515
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Speaker 1: oh yeah, I regularly go on Zillo to like I

516
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: want to buy a house. Um, I'm not quite ready yet,

517
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: but I like look just to like fantasize and see

518
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: what's out there and secret things like the secret secret exactly,

519
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: And uh, I actually do when I see a house

520
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: with a lawn of grass, I go nope, nope, And

521
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: that is soon I think in southern California, going to

522
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: be like it makes you not want to buy the

523
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: house used to be it used to be Cerbert Peel

524
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: and now it's like I don't want to deal with it.

525
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: I don't want the water or you know, the dirty

526
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: looks from people. And see I'll look at houses on

527
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Speaker 1: Zillo too, and I'll be like, there's a lawn there. No,

528
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: but if it costs four million dollars, I'm still look

529
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: at the lawn because you know, you gotta, you gotta,

530
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: you gotta raise the stakes in your mind, you know

531
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Speaker 1: what I mean? Right now living in a duplex. My

532
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: old house, we had a lawn and changed it to

533
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Speaker 1: like the sort of water saving whatever landscape and it

534
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: made it like ten times cooler, but it was expensive

535
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: and all the all the breaks that the government is

536
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: supposed to give you were really hard to track down.

537
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: It's still pretty dope, right, That's why it's a detractor

538
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: to buy a house with where you're like, I don't

539
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: want to have to convert that, right, Yeah, you have

540
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: to get like a landscape architect. It's a whole fucking thing. Um.

541
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: But so yeah, and just one other anecdote about water conservation. Um,

542
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Speaker 1: the dude Christian Bale plays in The Big Short Michael

543
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: Berry is now putting all and I mean it says

544
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: this at the end of the movie. It says he's

545
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: now putting all his money into one resource. Water. But uh,

546
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: they're like all these investment articles about that, and they're

547
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: really terrifying. They're basically talking about like why it's a

548
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,239
Speaker 1: good investment opportunity, and it just talks about stuff like

549
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: only point zero zero seven percent of the world's total

550
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: water is still fresh water. According to the u N,

551
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: water use has grown at over toy it is the

552
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: rate of the world's population increase in the last century. Uh. Yeah,

553
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: there's just all sorts of scary ship and uh these

554
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: people are like, oh man, I'm going to make so

555
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: much money off of this. Like yeah, because George Bush

556
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: bought Aquifer. Yeah, I remember when, um I can remember

557
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: it was a few years ago. On Twitter, I said

558
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: global warming is part of why ISIS exists, you know,

559
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: war in Syria, the drought, and people responded me like

560
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: I was insane. They were like, oh, sweetie, no, that's

561
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: not connected. And I'm like, well, read this thing I read.

562
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: You know, you're telling me that this thing isn't true,

563
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: like it's from a reputable source NASA. Yeah, I'm like,

564
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: I think it was a factor. I'm like, when when

565
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: we start fighting over water and resources like that, Like

566
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: that's when war breaks out and then extremist groups rise

567
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: and things like that. So it's like, you know, if

568
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna say your main goal is to get rid

569
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Speaker 1: of ISIS and the terrorists, then you also kind of

570
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: have to be believing climate change. Well, that's what climate

571
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: change has to be treated as an actual security threat,

572
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: you know, the security because it has such a destabilizing

573
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: like it's such a destabilizing force and it always just

574
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: proportionately affects like poor people. And yeah, especially with Syria,

575
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: you have farmers who they can't they can't work their

576
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: land because the drought. They have to move to urban

577
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: areas that are already strained, and that strain just sort

578
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: of exacerbates existing problems in the region and it can

579
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: become a mess. Well, and it did become a mess.

580
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: I mean, the Syrian conflict that everybody is familiar with

581
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: the defining political event of the decade was started just

582
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Speaker 1: the way Miles just described. From a drought that it

583
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: just that people who are some not all, but a

584
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: lot of the people who are like you know, constantly

585
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: obsessed with like we gotta keep terrorists out. Uh. You know,

586
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: those people don't actually want the end of war. You know,

587
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: they want war. They're on the same side as they

588
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: need more. They're dancing there on the same five. You know,

589
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: we're talking about disaster capitalism yesterday because uh, Puerto Rico

590
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: is now having to privatize their electricity grid, is it, Yeah,

591
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: like their main power companies becoming privatized. Yeah, getting But

592
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: I guess the one bright side is that you have

593
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: there are countries that do look at climate change and

594
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: are making that a priority and are actually preparing themselves,

595
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: like in Bangladesh, Like they have been hit by floods

596
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: and things like that, and they have made like fighting

597
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: climate change or at least preparing for it a high priority.

598
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: So like reinforcing their like the coastline to protect from

599
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: storm surges, relocating entire communities to be in safer areas.

600
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: So I think we need to just at the very

601
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: least treated seriously, what's the what's the harm? I mean,

602
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: I don't you know, you're spending money. That's always the issue.

603
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: It's costs money to blah blah blah. But it's like,

604
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: but while we just throw it away, what's that fable

605
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: ants in the grasshopper the cricket and the answer something

606
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: or the grasshopper won't he's just playing his fiddle answer

607
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: just like preparing for winter, and winter comes and he's

608
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: like stupid. That's my impression of fucking grasshoppers where the

609
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: answer um, yeah. And I mean the big thing is

610
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: that when people do start relocating entire communities, it's going

611
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: to screw the poor people. Like we're talking about how

612
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: the community Liberty City from the movie Moonlight, uh is

613
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: being like torn down to put up like rich people

614
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: condos because it happens to be at a place in

615
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: Miami that is like the furthest above sea level that

616
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: whereas like all these rich condos on South Beach are

617
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: getting flooded and like won't be there and yeah, like

618
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 1: twenty five years. So that's why when the Monacito stuff happened,

619
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Speaker 1: I was like, maybe if Oprah's house got fun, right,

620
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: we are really going to start listening, right. But it's

621
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: that thing, uh Andrew t Our guests from yesterday's show

622
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: always talks about the Gish Gallop where it's like they

623
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: give you so many different things to have to like

624
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: point out that are wrong that you can't win without

625
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: sounding like a pencil neck. It's a nerve, like in

626
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: terms of the climate change, well in terms of the

627
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: climate change, because then you're like, all right, we need

628
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: to address climate change, and we also once climate change

629
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: starts changing things, we have to look out for poor people.

630
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: And it's just like you have so many different like problems,

631
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Speaker 1: right if you, like I thought it was about gas man, right, Yeah,

632
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: they'll look for any reason to dismiss Yeah. Yeah. Um,

633
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Speaker 1: So this next one I don't really have any answers for.

634
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: It's just something that I saw today that kind of

635
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: shocked me. Is uh. The hate for Michelle Obama coming

636
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: from the right is just fucking staggering. Like I had

637
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: heard of like really ugly comments on like Facebook from

638
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: like some Republican politician or something. But yeah, that so

639
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: the top story on Drudge, Uh is you know a

640
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: thing that says Michelle Obama says, all we have is

641
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: hope left, and it has like a really unflattering picture

642
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: of her next to it, and all she says she

643
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: just she says people are afraid. But then there are

644
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: people who feel good about the direction of the country.

645
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: So I mean, that's what makes this country complicated because

646
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: it made up so many different people with so many

647
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: different backgrounds. But some people feel like the world is

648
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: a scary place right now, and you know, talks about

649
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: hope and treating one another kindly. That's what said off

650
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: Matt Drudge. Yes, so The Hill is writing about this,

651
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: and the comments are fucking crazy. The Hill is a

652
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: political blog that is pretty much I guess it's centrist

653
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: for America. Right. It's like in the mid It's not

654
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: right wing or anything. No, that's not right. I wouldn't

655
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: call a right wing, but holy sh it. The comments

656
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: are like the Obama's worked over time to create racial

657
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: tension and divide America during their eight years in the

658
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: White House. Please step aside while we work to fix things.

659
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: Then next we all hope that Kenyan's wife doesn't run

660
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: for president. And then the next one, I have hope

661
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: I'll see her husband in prison. Uh and then uh,

662
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: why do people support his fraud and refer to Michael

663
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: as she It's an insult to females. It's not okay.

664
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: So they're they're they're saying Michelle Obama is a man

665
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: named Michael. Yeah. That's a big theme with anti Michelle

666
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: Obama hate is they try to make it about she's

667
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: trans and like as if being transgendered is something inherently

668
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: an insult. But I mean, obviously it's used as an

669
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: insult now, But like, I'd love to get to the

670
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: point where it's like, yes, so what if she was

671
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: I mean, she's not well, But that's for people who

672
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: exists in that reality where that's the worst thing you

673
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: can say about a woman. You're a man, like I

674
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 1: get I get that a lot from the same group

675
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: of people, which is like, oh, you're obviously a man.

676
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: It's like, uh, because I'm disagree with you politically, right.

677
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: My profile picture, I mean it's yeah, I'm not going

678
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 1: to say I'm a ten, but it's a professional photo

679
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: of me and I look good in it. Like I'm

680
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: definitely not man like in this photo, like like got

681
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: long hair and like makeup, and like I look like

682
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: a woman. I'm wearing a dress. So they're just going

683
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: straight to that and just yeah, those people are all transphobic, homophobic, racist,

684
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: you know, white supremacist, misogynists, and you can tell them

685
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: the way their discourse, even the comments section of an

686
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: article about her. And you're also, you know, espousing an opinion,

687
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: which is something that only a man would do. Why

688
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: would you would you argue with you? But this is

689
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: actually being like measured, and she's saying there's a lot

690
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: of people who disagree. She's actually being objective, yes, and

691
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: also like I wish she would go after and be hardcore,

692
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: but she's like being like, uh, like diplomatic, and that's

693
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: not good enough. But this goes on through two comments.

694
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: It's insane, and it gets worse, like these are not

695
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: the worst things. Uh. They talk about sending her to prisons.

696
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: One person talks about hanging her from the south lawn. Uh.

697
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know, it's just move on, move on,

698
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: like you know, it's I even get annoyed with some

699
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: of the understand it's important that we rehash and like

700
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: learn from things. But I'm you know, I'm like, let's

701
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: deal with the problem at hand. Let's look to the future.

702
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: What can we do. Do we need to continue breaking

703
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: down what happened with Bernie over and over again, or

704
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,479
Speaker 1: like I mean, on the left, does it too, where

705
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: we like linger on things to the point where it's

706
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: like if your knee jerk reaction to every single thing

707
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: that happens today is to reference something from a year

708
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: ten years ago, like yeah, but it's like the what

709
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: about is ms, it's not Yeah, we have to learn

710
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: from history. I understand there's some levels of analysis that

711
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: need to have. I mean, I think all of this, really,

712
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: I think serves to show is that there are still

713
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: these you know, most people that are on the far

714
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: far right are just you know, they're racist and they

715
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: don't they just do not like Michelle Obama. They look

716
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: at like the Federalists had articles like like years ago

717
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: where they're just called Michelle Obama needs to get over

718
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: herself and it was written by what I'm assuming is

719
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 1: a Caucasian woman based on her photo and just saying

720
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: shit like you know, it's like so what because like

721
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: Michelle Bamas like sometimes I felt like I've been too

722
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: harsh or I've been like too emasculating or blah blah blah,

723
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: and she's like so what what woman hasn't had to

724
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: do with that? It's like the heaviest thing you're lifting

725
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: is your Gucci bag and it's just like god, she

726
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: like dressed in Jake Crew like basically stuff sometimes. I mean,

727
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: she was kind of a very accessible we can talk.

728
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: Sorry we're not talking about that today. But yeah, there

729
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: are a lot of there are a lot of comparison

730
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: points that it would seem to be the sort of

731
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: thing that would drive them even crazier. Uh, but when

732
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: done by a white president, Uh, it does not bother

733
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: them so much. Um. Yes, the update is racism still

734
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: exists in America. Yeah, but Jesus, it's a lot more.

735
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe the only update is that the

736
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: Hill comments section is fucking monstrous and terrifying. Look every

737
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: comments section is though. Yeah, yeah, get out of your

738
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: bubble man, jump into the comments. That's what I was like,

739
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: Is this what it looks like everywhere else? Just like

740
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: the New York Times is pretty well too. Oh. I

741
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: did an interview on A V Club and was delighted

742
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: with the interview and was like, couldn't wait to, you know,

743
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: see the positive feedback I was getting from the smart

744
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: people who read the A V Club and I have.

745
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: It was one of the few times I read comments

746
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: on an article about myself that I was like, oh

747
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: my god, these people are animals, Like they were tearing

748
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: me apart for me talking about a song that I

749
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: didn't like, Like, I mean, it was so they were

750
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: digging into my stuff online me like she's not fucking funny,

751
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: she's bitch, just like, yeah, I should say this is

752
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: very uh showing my privilege as a white male for

753
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: me to be like, I can't believe it. People on

754
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: that kind of like right, yeah, yeah, these people don't

755
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: like this black woman. Yeah, but you found it. You

756
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: ranto awareness us the moments we're looking for. They're so mean.

757
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a break and we're back.

758
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, well we'll do a future segment. We were

759
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: talking in the break about deslonization plants and there are

760
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: some ins that we're talking about for the water crisis

761
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: going forward, But for now, we have more important things

762
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: to talk about because the Super Bowls coming up, and

763
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: you know what that means halftime show saying that, but

764
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: people are yeah, justin timber Lake is the halftime performer.

765
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: People are taking bets on who will appear with him because, uh,

766
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like he's the type of like Lady

767
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: Gaga was the first performer in a long time to

768
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: not just have a bunch of guests appear with her

769
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: last year, so they're taking bets on who will appear.

770
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: They've got t at three to one, Timberland at five

771
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: to one, Madonna nine to one, Jimmy Fallon which funny

772
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: tender one, Bob Dylan Weird, Jessica Beale. He just brings

773
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: his wife out and my beautiful wife, a non musician,

774
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: uh Andy Sandberg fifty one for they'll do a tack

775
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: in the box thing, and then this one Janet Jackson

776
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: two hundred one, Like I would put all my money

777
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: on that one. Of course they're going to bring Janet.

778
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: I want him to yes, and then because I think

779
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 1: he needs to reconcile. Thank you. But I just given

780
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: my observations, I think Justin wants to move on from that,

781
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: and I don't think he wants to. Well he owes her.

782
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: He does. Look you're talking to I've never considered myself

783
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: a stand for anyone. Well, before you say anything, she's

784
00:44:53,280 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: wearing a Rhythm Nation hat. But I am Jackson fan. No,

785
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: I I love Janet too. Oh so you're a but

786
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: I'm a huge j T fan. But I'm disappointed in

787
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: the way he handled that. Of course, I've also met him,

788
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: so like you kind of know his heart, I know

789
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: his heart. I've met him once, and um, I think

790
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: he's I love him, I love I love the new music.

791
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about the new album. I think it's

792
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: it's classic Justin. If you're not into his music, then

793
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: don't listen to it. I don't care. Um, but I

794
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: do like what he's doing on this new album. Um.

795
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: I've seen him in concert several times. Were you on

796
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: that stripped Justified tour? The what stripped Justified when he

797
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: toward Christina Aguileray, not that Justified was I see? I

798
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: like Justified as an album. It was like great when

799
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: I listened to a lot, and then I've listened to

800
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: other stuff. Yeah, I mean he's had some missteps, but

801
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: like I think that My thing is, I think Justin

802
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: became famous as a child and he's lived in a

803
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: very sheltered, protected world for the majority of his life.

804
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: So I just don't think he fully he's a little

805
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: at How could you not he and he doesn't. But

806
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: he's new new His song with Chris Staplesdon which I

807
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: really enjoy, is called say Something, which goes back to

808
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: my earlier thing about silence. And the lyric is sometimes

809
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: it's better to say nothing at all, Like the best

810
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: way to say something is to say nothing at all.

811
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: And I love that message, but I'm also like, Justin,

812
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: but you should say something about Janet. That's kind of

813
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: But also, look, you know, we demand so much from

814
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: our celebrities to the point where it's almost like you're

815
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 1: damned if you do, you're damned if you don't. Um.

816
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: I wish he took more responsibility for some stuff, like, well,

817
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: I think this is the way he can make it

818
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: right with Janet. Okay, you bring Janet out and then

819
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: at the end of the song, she pulls his dick

820
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: out in front of everybody. She rips off a little

821
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 1: piece of fabric and he's just there and he has

822
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 1: like a weird dick ring on a big son dick.

823
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: Ran you have some jewelry. But now that's just let's

824
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: just even it up. If you're gonna put her on

825
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: blast for having her nipples out there, I guess that's

826
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: the but who knows they might be like and that

827
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: was the greatest Super Bowl show ever. The fact that

828
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: that was even scandalous still to this day is unbelievable

829
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: to me, Like there's people. I guess a group of

830
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: parents wrote a letter to j T just begging him

831
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: not to do anything provocative. You know. It's like, if

832
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: you want something provocative, watch the men getting concussions over

833
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: and over again on the field. Watch the way that, uh,

834
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: you know, we treat our black athletes. Like that's damaging

835
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: more your children more than star sticker on it, Like

836
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: like it's never seen a tip before. Didn't they used

837
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: to eat on your tip? Like, I mean, I don't know.

838
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't, then that's the problem. Yeah, they don't.

839
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: I don't want my children knowing about the mystery. I mean,

840
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: like it's just all of it is. So I'm not

841
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: saying I agree with it, but I totally understand where

842
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: not not understand where America is coming from. But like

843
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 1: that is the easiest thing to predict ever, that they're

844
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 1: going to be upset about that and not like fantanical background, right,

845
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: absolutely black breast. Now that was Look, if that was

846
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: Jessica Bielle's titty up there, they would not have been

847
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: the same And we all know that. And that was

848
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: sort of the conversation that that whole controversy kicked off too.

849
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: Was just like are we holding people to like going on,

850
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: he did it to her, but but she and then

851
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: so his response was not adequate, Like he wasn't like, yeah,

852
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: that was my bad because I was the one doing it.

853
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: Like he just sort of distance that he let her

854
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: take all the heat. He didn't step in and go

855
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: hey everybody, like it was it was a mistake, Like

856
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: I take full responsibility. Like he just didn't really stand

857
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: up for were invaded the oscar? Yea, And isn't he

858
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: sort of disliked in the black community for and cultural

859
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: appropriation claims of you know him, his music is definitely borrowed.

860
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: His hair upset a lot of Japanese people because he

861
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: had that Ramen hair. It was very good. Yeah, he

862
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: made a comment on Twitter uh a while back that

863
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: was just sort of condescending and missing the point. He

864
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: did a little bit of all lives, What did you

865
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: think of d so stupid? I got you, I got okay,

866
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: So listen, I know all the words already. What does

867
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 1: he mean when he says fell up out of it

868
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: so I can climb back in I'm a thoughtful lover

869
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: or something that's love that the video is trying to

870
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: be socially like woke, but the song is about fucking, yes,

871
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: and that my thing is like Justin does songs about

872
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: fucking and that's the majority of his music and that's

873
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: what he's really good at. And then you're trying to

874
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: throw in some social awareness. Ship is the video made

875
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: no sense? But that also does remind me of like

876
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 1: the golden age of music videos when the music video

877
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: made no sense and like remember that time, like when

878
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: every video that came on that there should be MTV

879
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 1: World premiers would be like plus the rhymes is seen

880
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: in the rain like a boy on the side of

881
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: a building, man that run of guns and roses videos

882
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: where they yeah, we promised the third one will make

883
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: sense of it all, and it's like nothing made sense.

884
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: Usually is getting corny, but I I don't mind. So

885
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: his new album was like teased as being his return

886
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: to his roots and like Man of the Woods, and

887
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: then the music does sound very much like everything else

888
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: I've heard from him, So it's kind of has a

889
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: more a Country Twain, you know what he actually do.

890
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: Think Justin is a really talented musician, like and he

891
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: has all like he's always just done his own thing,

892
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: Like he'll do a song and then put a three

893
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: minute coda on the end of it that's like a

894
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: totally different song, Like he are you musician had some music. Yeah,

895
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: he'll do things. He does things his way. You know,

896
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: he's like kind of he doesn't mind stepping into just

897
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: a slightly different world with his music. But um, I

898
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: think these songs have like country melodies to them or

899
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: country like rules to them that then he layers on

900
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: his you know, I think it's more subtle. I think

901
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: people are just they expected because of the promo made

902
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 1: it seem like it was going to be a country

903
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: be like his Nebraska and uh, you know, I love

904
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: the first video is him as a robot and I

905
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, hilarious. I guess they also think about

906
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: this too, right, we're talking about, you know, super Bowl

907
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: moments and the one thing that I just want to

908
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: bring up. Sorry, do a hard transition way from Justin,

909
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: but I feel like we owe this to society. His

910
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: Left Shark, right, Katie Perry's left Shark. He went on

911
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: NPR and PR tracked him down, explained himself, Yeah, now

912
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: do you did you when you first saw Left Shark?

913
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: What did you think was this was just a total

914
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: dude was sucking up. Yeah, I thought I thought there.

915
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: I thought it was like a naked gun situation where

916
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 1: he had knocked the actual dancer out and like forgotten it.

917
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: And then and then was like crazy fun movements on

918
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: a stage. And but I didn't analyze it too hard. Well,

919
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 1: I thought it looked funny. Well, listen to this, because

920
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: we had a straight from the shark's mouth, what happened?

921
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,959
Speaker 1: All right, so take me to halftime. You're out there.

922
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: This is the question that America wants to know, a

923
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: million dollar question. What happened? Happened? So there's a set choreography,

924
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: there's also what's called freestyle choreography, or like you get

925
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: to move around or play your character as a dancer. Right,

926
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: So it seems like a critical piece of it from

927
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: you had some You have flexibility because you are your

928
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: own character. I'm in a seven foot blue shark costume.

929
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: There's no cool. There's no cool in that. So what's

930
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: the other option. Well, I'm gonna play a different character.

931
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: This is a moment here America. They thought you were

932
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: totally flabbing this up. Yeah, totally, what character were you go?

933
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: This is the underdog? It's an everyday person don't have

934
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 1: to be perfect, you don't have to be at work.

935
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 1: Nobody was playing the thing. I thought that, right, yeah, exactly,

936
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 1: Yeah he might be, but he's like an everyday person

937
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: who can't dance would be doing this. But it's when

938
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: you watch, like there was like clearly choreography to like

939
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: to the course, maybe he got the timing wrong on

940
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: when you were supposed to go right because he was

941
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: kind of doing the choreography and doing it half wrong.

942
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: So to me, that doesn't feel like that was quite

943
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: the freestyle moment. But I don't know. Look if he's

944
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: trying to say this was, but that was the ultimate

945
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: effect of Left Shark. Yeah, so in the end, the

946
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: result was more important than maybe attention. But if you

947
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: never been to a Flaming Lips concert, god like, where

948
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: they bring out like every character. I mean, I think

949
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: she probably got that idea from from them, but like

950
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: he brings out, you know, Flaming Lips brings out like

951
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: all these people in costumes and it's just chaos and

952
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 1: there's like giant balls everywhere, you know, And that reminded

953
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: me of that, and so to me it didn't look

954
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: as much of a funk up as it did, like, oh,

955
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: she's trying to do that thing that Flaming Lips does,

956
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 1: like a fun party, and like some of it's off,

957
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: but it was just so funny. It made everyone feel

958
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: so good. I love Left Shark, Yeah, everyone does, that's all.

959
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: It's just funny that it also that it took this

960
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: long to like for this person to come and be like,

961
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: let me tell you exactly what the Super Bowl. Gosh,

962
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: people take the NFL so seriously. Actually, thinking back what

963
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 1: you asked, what I thought at the time. I thought

964
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: I was looking at the wrong shark because I thought

965
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: we were talking stage left, and I was like looking

966
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: at the shark to her left, and I was like,

967
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: they kind of see him in sync. And then I

968
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: figured out what people were talking about. Some people it

969
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: was controversial though, too. Yeah, the whole performance was controversial,

970
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: right Satan, Yeah, Satan. People take halftime show and all

971
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: of this so seriously. It's like it's a sport that

972
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: we made up. But the sagery that is being dumped

973
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: into brains and around the world when when you start

974
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: looking up, like Katy Perry, Satan was hidden and if

975
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: you look up Katie Perry, Satanic imagery super Bowl, then

976
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: their articles like was Lady Gaga super Bowl satanic? Was Beyonce?

977
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: So it feels like every time there's a woman up

978
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: there performing at practime, so it's satanic, And who knows.

979
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll find a way to say. Justin was

980
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: being said. If you are someone who is offended by

981
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: pop music because you think it's part of the system

982
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: of Satan, because you are so hardcore Christian, then yes,

983
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: it is satanic because you think that anything that challenges

984
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: or distracts you from God and pure is satanic. So

985
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: it's like you can find I mean, that's definition of

986
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: satan is like away from God. So it's like unless

987
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: you're Satanist, and then you stand for indulgence where Christ

988
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: was about substaining right, that's like there's nothing in the

989
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: Bible about him, know about sort of like of keeping

990
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: Christ partying like no, no, no, but it's so many

991
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: it's about staying in line, whereas in Satanism is about

992
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: indulging yourself or like indulging whatever your urges are. But

993
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: it's not even an evil way because when you look

994
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: at like the tenants, it will be like if you

995
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: do not respect a man do not have them in

996
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: your homes. Like okay, so I don't like talk, don't

997
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: be fake with somebody and then invited into your house

998
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: and like, okay, are you satan? This is all part

999
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: of miles of this satanic profits I have to leave.

1000
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: You are filled with satanic imagery. That is definitely true. Uh.

1001
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: It's also important to note that there was a lot

1002
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: of satanic imagery in there. Uh. I guess, I guess

1003
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: what we define a satanic imagery might be loose definition.

1004
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: But you know there are pyramids, mirrors on the floor.

1005
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what else my house, giant lions. That's

1006
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: got to be something. Well, because like I mean, first

1007
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: Peter of five verse eight, uh says be sober, be vigilant,

1008
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: because your adversary, the devil, walks about like a roaring

1009
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: lion seeking made devours. So she rolled up. She pulled

1010
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: up on a fucking lion. So the MGM lion is Satanic,

1011
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: the lion King satanic. Pink Floyd album which does have

1012
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: a pyramid on it, Oh my god, white men, So

1013
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: it's okay. The dollar bill has a full of trippy

1014
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: ship And isn't that ironic because the dollar money is

1015
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: the our and is our God simultaneously. It's like, what

1016
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: is God that I would encourage you to discuss with

1017
00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: your pastor? Sarah, it has been a pleasure having you,

1018
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: guys than you find you and follow you. I'm on

1019
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: Twitter reluctantly Sarah Shae for one. Okay, also on Instagram

1020
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: is Sarah for one. But I just launched a new podcast.

1021
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: So if you like podcasts, what's your podcast? It's called

1022
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: Loaner at coy Wolf Creek and it's sort of a

1023
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: hybrid topical slash futuristic dystopian scripted podcasts. Very weird. Um

1024
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: totally have a vision of what that is in my mind.

1025
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: It's me in the future talking about right now. Oh interesting,

1026
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: So I build sort of a world. Um, I don't

1027
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: know if it's gonna work. Episode two came out today

1028
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: Creek Loaner at coy Wolf Creek. Wolves are a new

1029
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: species of coyote slash wolf slash dog that live on

1030
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: the East Coast. Awesome. Kind of the smiles. Where can

1031
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: people find you? You can find me, you know on

1032
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Greg. You co host

1033
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: a podcast to right I do. Uh, what's that called ship?

1034
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: How would people find it at this point. I don't

1035
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: know if they're listening to this. Also, let me plug

1036
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: if you're in l A. I'm going to be on

1037
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: a show at u C. B uh called Hollywood for

1038
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: Ugly people. Uh, this Saturday. Just check my Twitter. I'm

1039
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm pushing it. If you live in the l A area,

1040
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: you want to come see me do this ship in

1041
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: the flesh just myself and a few other funny people

1042
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: talking to about politics. Yeah, with politics is called Hollywood

1043
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: for Ugly people, but called d C. Yes um and uh,

1044
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: speaking of podcast, checkout Culture King if you guys, Culture

1045
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: King is out here. Each episode better than the last

1046
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Speaker 1: they've been. I don't know, they're so good. That show

1047
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: is perfect. But you can find me at Jack Underscore

1048
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: O'Brien on Twitter. If you can find us at Daily

1049
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: Zeitgeist on Twitter. Where at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

1050
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: We have Facebook Campage just search daily Zeutgeist. We have

1051
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: a website daily segeist dot com where we post all

1052
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: our episodes on our foot Nope, we're limp off to

1053
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: the sources that we use for the information we talked

1054
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: about today. Uh, that is going to do it for today?

1055
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: Do we have a song to ride out on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what, because we didn't talk about Trump and

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Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels has been been talked about a lot. I

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Speaker 1: just want to put people onto a great song by

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Speaker 1: the Meters called storm It's a really good vibe. The

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Speaker 1: Meters are a great band from New Orleans who are

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Speaker 1: just you know, they're like a highly sampled band as well.

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Speaker 1: Just peepe this song by the Meters called Stormy, and

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Speaker 1: you know, just relax baby. We're trying to go into

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Speaker 1: this weekend in a peaceful way, all right, And we'll

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Speaker 1: write out on that. We will talk to you guys

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Speaker 1: tomorrow because it is the Daily podcast. Talk Um, who

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