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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast from the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: We are part of the Volume podcast Network. I am

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Speaker 1: Chad Millman. I have my co host, Simon Hunter with me.

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Speaker 1: And Simon, I know you're gonna be very excited about

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Speaker 1: what happened last week, because something very interesting happened. You

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Speaker 1: are my bff. You are my professional football betting buddy,

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Speaker 1: so you would be thrilled that. As March Madness was beginning,

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Speaker 1: the trending Twitter sphere was dominated not by Gunzaga or

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Speaker 1: Michigan or twelve versus five bracketbusters. It was dominated by

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Speaker 1: NFL Free agent sheet. And by the way, Simon, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't like Tom Brady signed. It was John Brown signed,

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Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel will sign with Washington, Ryan Fitzpatrick signed with Washington.

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Speaker 1: Not big names, but that was big enough for our

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Speaker 1: Twitter obsessives. Simon, my buddy, the joy of Northern England,

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Speaker 1: the pride of South Jersey. How did that make you feel?

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Speaker 1: The intro always so good? Yeah, it was hilarious. How

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Speaker 1: many people are hit me up? I was like, can

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Speaker 1: we just enjoy these college basketball games just for a weekend?

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Speaker 1: But now there are no all dings of the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and uh yeah, we'll talk. We're definitely gonna dive in.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about our own personal teams, the misery we're

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Speaker 1: going through with all this free agency, and uh man,

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Speaker 1: it's I mean, we can all agree. The biggest, second

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Speaker 1: biggest sport in Americas the NBA. And you saw the

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Speaker 1: NBA is gonna sign a new TV deal, big number,

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Speaker 1: eight billion dollars. That's that's a lot of money. And

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Speaker 1: then you just see the NFL coming over and over

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Speaker 1: top saying, yeah, we're doing a hundred and ten billion

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Speaker 1: dollar deal TV deals. So NFL is king. It's just

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Speaker 1: it's just so far out of all the other sports.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy, just how obsessed the fans are with it.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm excited to dive in and everything I

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Speaker 1: have in this last couple of weeks. Well, look, you

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, uh your team struggling, My team, no heartbreak

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Speaker 1: whatsoever because of all the free agency news. For those

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Speaker 1: of us who love the Bears, our national nightmare is

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Speaker 1: over because Mitch Trubisky has moved on. And who is

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Speaker 1: he signed with? Producer Matt Mitchell? Who has he signed

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Speaker 1: with your beloved Buffalo Bills? What do you think of

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Speaker 1: that buddy chat. I've played fantasy college football since two

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Speaker 1: thousand and in t U n C S MITR Trobiski

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Speaker 1: was my fantasy quarterback. Then it gets trapped by Chicago.

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Speaker 1: All my in laws are Bears fans, and now he

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Speaker 1: signs with Buffalo. So this is gonna be six seasons

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Speaker 1: where I can't get this guy out of my life.

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Speaker 1: So as a Bills fan, we can't light enough Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen prayer candles to adequately protect his precious, precious body

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Speaker 1: to prevent Mitch Robinsky from taking the field. And if

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Speaker 1: it wasn't illegal, I kidnap him and encase him in

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Speaker 1: loose sight like a giant, fancy paperweight, because if I

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Speaker 1: see Josh Allen go down, I'm just gonna calmly turn

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Speaker 1: my TV off, unplug it, put it in my car,

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Speaker 1: drove it a mile down the road, and I'll just

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Speaker 1: toss it into Lake Michigan. Yeah. I feel so bad

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Speaker 1: for you. This couldn't be any worse, Like this is

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Speaker 1: the I already beat my Buffalo Bill's future, and I

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Speaker 1: wish I was getting a refund. I understand how you

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Speaker 1: feel there, you know, especially when you're when you're backing

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Speaker 1: Mitch Robinsky, or as our our Old Pals document call

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Speaker 1: him Mitch Bordles. It never feels good. You've just been

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Speaker 1: bordled with time to own field. It's a lot of same.

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Speaker 1: Intercepted by Shakil and intercepted again by Shakil Priffin. It's

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Speaker 1: intercepted Trabisky over the middle, sucking mile Tropisky gets caught

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Speaker 1: trying to force something in there, Rabinsky fading back and

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Speaker 1: the Waggles got the football picked off and pass deep

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Speaker 1: And that's gonna spting at the forty yard line overthrow.

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Speaker 1: You did not have to do that. You did not

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Speaker 1: have to do that. You you're forcing something in the

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Speaker 1: Well look now, Simon, we're not even gonna get into

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Speaker 1: this because Andy Dalton is now the quarterback of the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. And it can't get worse than that, no

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Speaker 1: matter how bad it has gotten for the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we just brought in Joe Flacco for a workout, Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 1: so it can get worse. But yeah, that's about to

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Speaker 1: say you're throwing a lot of stones on the glass

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Speaker 1: out there feeling pretty high and mighty. I by getting

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Speaker 1: a bunch of times, YadA YadA, YadA. Oh man, it's

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Speaker 1: he's kind of a stop gap. I think. I don't

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Speaker 1: know because at the GM and we'll talk about, like

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Speaker 1: your guy's owner, this is everything, like this is their

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Speaker 1: last season supposedly, but I don't know how they worked

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Speaker 1: fired after the whole Niche thing, so who knows what's

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Speaker 1: going on. They weren't fired because the owners stood in

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Speaker 1: front of the media and gave a press conference. He said,

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Speaker 1: I'm keeping them around for one more year, but I'm

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Speaker 1: not giving him extension. I feel like they've earned it

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Speaker 1: because Ryan Pace found a wide receiver in the sixth

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Speaker 1: round who performed really well this year. Swear to god,

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Speaker 1: that's what he said. But you said one of the

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Speaker 1: things you said, we'll get We'll talk it as the

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Speaker 1: season gets closer. Dude, the NFL season never ends like

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Speaker 1: free agency. There's new right steals. You mentioned that yesterday

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Speaker 1: person attendance, and so like we're going to discuss all

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Speaker 1: of that, how it impacts future odds, how it impacts

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Speaker 1: fantasy productions projections, or to discuss all that with not

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Speaker 1: just Simon Hunter, who is one of our newest employees

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Speaker 1: but one of my new favorite people at Action Network

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Speaker 1: and someone I truly can stand Samantha Prived, our newest

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Speaker 1: Action Network analyst and TikTok star. And Matthew Freedman, who

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Speaker 1: was actually, by the way I've done the math, he

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Speaker 1: is atop our Action Network leaderboard as most likely to

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Speaker 1: get fired, slightly ahead of Simon Hunter, who is racing

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Speaker 1: up very very quickly. Hello Matthew try Uh, it's great.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the odds really should be am I fired

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Speaker 1: you never know, Simon might outdo me and I get

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Speaker 1: fired first. But I can still get fired on the show.

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited to be here, uh and to talk

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Speaker 1: more about Mitchell Troubinsky and to rub as much salt

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Speaker 1: It's on Matt Mitchell's Uh. Samantha, Hello, welcome to your

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Speaker 1: first appearance on the favorite podcast. Hello, and thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for having me. That was quite an interest.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Well. Listen, I do think before we even

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Speaker 1: It really a beloved media business. Um that really, it

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Speaker 1: I was previously at the New York Post as the

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Speaker 1: and I'm kind of best known quote unquote for silly TikTok's.

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Speaker 1: I mean I would take basically my start Said articles,

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Speaker 1: like different types of content. So that included doing handstands

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Speaker 1: then I just you know, this season was the first

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Speaker 1: And I'm just like so excited to be here. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: want to fire Matthew Freeman. We'll listen. You're doing fantastic work.

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Speaker 1: The most amazing thing for me was you mentioned you

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Speaker 1: welcome to Action. Welcome to the Favorites podcast on the

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Speaker 1: Volume Network. We're thrilled that you're here. Um, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: there have been so many signings starting with you, Simon Hunter,

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Speaker 1: tell me from the last week the most impactful signing

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Speaker 1: that make it so I won't bet on these teams. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm already in on Washington. They signed Fitzpatrick, so that's fun,

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Speaker 1: they signed both of them. I just don't really get

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Speaker 1: true they still have o their money left over to

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Speaker 1: make a move to get a quarterback in there. He's

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Speaker 1: I don't know they if they come into this season

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Speaker 1: so much, I need to jump on. So it's kind

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Speaker 1: of been a fun free agent period, but not really.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of been a dud, right, Well, That's that's

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Speaker 1: what's interesting, Friedman. It feels like there's been a lot

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Speaker 1: yet do any of these people move the needle for

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Speaker 1: any team whatsoever. I'm gonna disagree a little bit with

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Speaker 1: Simon On Washington. Not that Ryan Fitzpatrick is going to

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Speaker 1: propel this team to a super Bowl, but the defense

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Speaker 1: why not, Like, why can't he get better with better weapons.

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Speaker 1: Aren't there aren't there examples of quarterbacks who have gotten

428
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: better with better weapons? Answer the first question first. I'm

429
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: not going to answer the first question first, and the

430
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: hope of getting fired. There are quarterbacks who have progressed,

431
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 1: and we saw it last year with Josh Allen. I

432
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: think you know, the big difference is that as great

433
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: as Kenny Golladay is, Stephen Diggs is a different type

434
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: of receiver who can win with separation, and when a

435
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: guy is open downfielled, it's a lot easier to hit

436
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: him and make it look like a good throw Versus

437
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: Kenny Golladay, who's a contested catch artist. It's a little

438
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 1: bit hard for a player like that to elevate a quarterback. Uh.

439
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,719
Speaker 1: And plus Josh Allen, it's a rarity. Uh. It's not

440
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: often that a guy is, you know, pretty subpar his

441
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: first couple of seasons. It really relies a lot on

442
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: his legs. And then in your three transitions into a

443
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 1: guy who can really pass it, pass it with accuracy,

444
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: pass it at all layers of the field, and all

445
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden your offense changes. On top of that,

446
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: I'll just say I don't want to have anything to

447
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: do with a quarterback who asked to count on Jason

448
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: Garrett to develop. It happened with Tony Romo, but I

449
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: think that's more Romo and less Jason Garrett. So, uh,

450
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: if you're asking me to back a team that has

451
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett is the offensive coordinator, there is no way

452
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it unless that team is getting

453
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: like plus eight hundred odds or something like that. So absolutely,

454
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm with Samantha. I'm hands off on Daniel Jones, and

455
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: from a fantasy perspective, Kenney Golliday, although I have a

456
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 1: high opinion of him, I think the situation that he's

457
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: in means that right now he has not much upside

458
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: and quite a bit downside. I think him I I

459
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: said all last year that I thought Daniel Jones was

460
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: getting too much credit coming into the year. He is

461
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: not a good quarterback and had not developed, and for

462
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: some reason, like Mitch Trubisky, who was much much better

463
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: in his second year, gets slammed for being a total bust.

464
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: Whereas everyone kept saying Daniel Jones, Daniel Jones, Daniel Jones,

465
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: consider you know, continues to get the upside and the

466
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,959
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. Um, But what are you saying?

467
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: What are you seeing in Daniel Jones that makes you

468
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: think he cannot develop? It can't be like Tony Romo

469
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: was the anomaly with Jason Garrett. It can't be that

470
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs was the anomaly with Josh Allen. Like those

471
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: are just two anomalies. Like what is it specifically about Jones?

472
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a quarterback and grew, so my

473
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: opinion on sort of watching him means almost nothing. But

474
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: I'll just say it doesn't team as if he actually

475
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: is good at progressing from his first read to his

476
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: second and third reads. So if the obvious immediate schemed

477
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: throw is not there, he's not good at progressing to

478
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 1: the next guy he should be throwing to or moving

479
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 1: out of the pocket and creating something out of nothing,

480
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: and behind an offensive line that isn't giving him good protection.

481
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: It's really necessary for him to be able to create

482
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more than your average passer. So the

483
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: combination of inability to move from first read to second

484
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: read an inability to create behind an offensive line that

485
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: isn't giving him the protection that a quarterback needs, that

486
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: to me, signals an inability to progress. Go ahead. I

487
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: was gonna say, appraise mechanics. It's it's basically everything you

488
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: just said. Any of his small hands that was a

489
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: not coming in onto the ear. We've seen it. He

490
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: fumbles a lot when he gets bodies and around him.

491
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: So right now his regression has been his body being

492
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: underneath him and he sets his feet. The throw doesn't

493
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 1: set him right. He doesn't keep his body in oneath him.

494
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: Today he's putting all his weight into his throat. So

495
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: he's just like you guys just said, he's not progressed

496
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: at all. And he's one of those guys where I

497
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: just don't have faith and that's why, like I'm not

498
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: betting on him, and who knows. Like he just said,

499
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: Josh Allen had that crazy year last year, he turned

500
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: it around. I talked about this upcoming season, I'm gonna

501
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: fade Josh Allen because you just know there's anna reaggression.

502
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: Thatt's just the NFL teams figure out. We always talked

503
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: about there's three to four great quarterbacks in any given

504
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: time in the league. Like it takes so much to

505
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: be great in this league. So for me, I always

506
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: look for those positions of fading these quarterbacks after a

507
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: great years. So like we saw last year with Jimmy

508
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: Garoppolo the forty nine, we faded them last year. They

509
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: just weren't the same team and it worked out. So

510
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: that's one of those the NFL just so much turnover

511
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: that with Daniel Jones, I could see him not being

512
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: good this year, and just like Mitchell be let go

513
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: after the season. One more thing to to add on

514
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: to this. What you saw him with Josh Allen in

515
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: progression from year one to year two was that he

516
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: actually did improve as a passer in terms of his

517
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: ability to move the ball down the field, so he

518
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: moved from five point four to six point seven adjusted

519
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: yards per attempt from year one to year two. With

520
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, he actually regressed last year, which moving from

521
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: year one to year two is a massive red flag.

522
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: Six point five adjusted yards per tempt to six point one.

523
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: It's very rare for a guy to get significantly worse

524
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: than year two and then take a big step forward

525
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: in year three. Simon, we debated betting the Giants and

526
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: pull the trigger on the Giants. I feel like we

527
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: did that last year seventy five times. That's just because

528
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: of value though, because we're just talking about no one likes.

529
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: No one liked Daniel Jones. So I wasn't telling you

530
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: to do that week two or three, But by week

531
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: ten eleven, that's what we did. Baby. The same thing

532
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: with the Jets. You were so mad at me, and

533
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: I was telling you we have to take the Jets.

534
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: It's like, this is the time they can't. They're not

535
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: gonna go oh in sixteen against the spread. We have

536
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: to get on the Jets eventually. So it's one of

537
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: those I'll talk people right here all off season. I'm

538
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: gonna shoot on a lot of teams often that's about

539
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: the teams I've bet on. That's just how I make

540
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: my living. So people get so upset about it. That's

541
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: where you find value. We're in bad teams. So yeah,

542
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna be betting on the Giants this up coming season,

543
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: but we're gonna be fading them early on for sure.

544
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: By the way, by the way, I totally remember last

545
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: week of the season. We are desperately needing the Giants

546
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys and it is a terrible, terrible game

547
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: and it's a gray, sleety day in Connecticut. I finally

548
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: get one of my kids out of the house, take

549
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: them to like some small crappy ski mountain with a buddy,

550
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting in the parking lot because it's too

551
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: far away to go home and come back. And I

552
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: know that they're gonna want to do this for about

553
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, so I get them out there. I'm sitting

554
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,239
Speaker 1: in a parking lot, listening to the radio and like

555
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: knowing that the Giants just need to kneel down to

556
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: end the game and us to win our bet and

557
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: stay in the money for DraftKings. Of course they fumbled

558
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: the ball and then recover it like they have to

559
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: give us the heart attack and the last player of

560
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: the game. Um, all right, I want to switch it up.

561
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: I want to go to a different team because another

562
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: team that I have a big futures bet on, the

563
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders, Samantha. The Las Vegas Raiders have signed

564
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: who do they sign? Kenyan Drake as a backup running back?

565
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: So what is that saying about Josh Jacobs right now?

566
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: They signed John Brown as a receiver. How many more

567
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: down the field speed receivers who probably aren't that great

568
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: at running roots do they need? Why does John Gruden

569
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: get to keep his job forever and ever and ever

570
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: as if these are good ideas. And they also didn't

571
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: they trade away like half their offensive line of the Patriots,

572
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,479
Speaker 1: So like, tell me what am I supposed to think

573
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: about the Raiders? Where is the value in terms of player,

574
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: in terms of thinking about fantasy? It's a lot of questions.

575
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: Something we're at you, but you know you're director event

576
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: a X in a form of life, so you know,

577
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: fucking analyze the question. That's funny. Uh So, Yeah, I

578
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: mean I think there's definitely cause for concern with the

579
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: offensive line. Those are some pretty major losses for them,

580
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: and that obviously has huge downstream effects to a lot

581
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: of different parts of the game. And it's been interesting

582
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: to see how they've handled free agency going after a

583
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: running back when they seem to have an RB one. Um.

584
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: You know, Josh Jacobs has his moments, but he still

585
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: finishes a thousand yard rusher, finish his RB four teen

586
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: for for fantasy. So getting Drake seems very strange to me. Um.

587
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: And then yeah, getting another stretch the field type guy

588
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: when you have Derek Carr as your quarterback, A lot

589
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: of that doesn't seem to add up, especially when you

590
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: don't have an offensive line, so I really don't know

591
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: like what to think of them as a team. But

592
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like a good situation for betting or fantasy.

593
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: Just it just feels like until they make the right additions, Uh,

594
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: you know it, these kind of don't really matter that much,

595
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: Um I don't. I obviously hate the signing the Drake

596
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: and Josh team out of the out of the backfield now.

597
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: I think that that really hurts Josh's Josh Jacob's value

598
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: for fantasy. And you know, Kenyan Drake could I think

599
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: we went into last season thinking that he was gonna

600
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: be like low end RB one and obviously had taken

601
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: a huge, huge dive from there. So I'm pretty much

602
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: staying away from those two guys. I didn't hear anything

603
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: you said after you said that's funny because no one

604
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: ever gives me credit for that. Simon is shaking his head,

605
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: he knows how much that I appreciate that. You have

606
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: definitely now have longer odds to get fired. Friedman Um

607
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: work on it. How How like if you're Josh Jacobs,

608
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: how mad and frustrated are you right now? Well, one, Chad,

609
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: you should be fired for saying roots instead of routes. Okay,

610
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: that's that's number one. To Josh Jacobs, well, let's yeah,

611
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about it. He has to be serious.

612
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: It's great that the team drafted him in the first

613
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: round a couple of years ago, and from the fantasy perspective,

614
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: you think, okay, a a big back from Alabama who's

615
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: twenty one years old, who was drafted in the first round.

616
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: This guy is dynasty gold. And then they never use

617
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: him as a receiver. He's good enough as a runner,

618
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: but they don't use him enough as a receiver. And

619
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: for fantasy it's it's poison for a running back not

620
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: to be used in the receiving game. So you know,

621
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: going where he is right now in fantasy drafts, middle

622
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: of round three, that's okay, but his upside is significantly capped,

623
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: and really, you do want upside when you're going for fantasy.

624
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: I should say, though, that as as bad as this

625
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: team looks, I do see some upside in John Brown

626
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: because he's available, like in the twenty second round, and

627
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: he's the like the loan professional receiver on this team.

628
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: He actually like what Nelson Aghalore was last year, and

629
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: he was a surprise fantasy asset. John Brown actually might

630
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: be the number one wide receiver on this team, and

631
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 1: to be able to get him as the wide receiver

632
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: seventy five when in fantasy he could finish is maybe

633
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: a low end wide receiver three. I think that's significant value.

634
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 1: It's not sexy, but those are the types of picks,

635
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: especially in bestball leagues, that can really pay off something.

636
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: I know you have an opinion on what the Raiders

637
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: have been doing right now. Yeah, and just adds up

638
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: chat if I ever chuckle and say that's funny, in

639
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: my mind, I'm hoping. I hope this guy jumps off

640
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: a bridge. It's never funny if someone says that's funny,

641
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's that's funny. Um, she's

642
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: just that, yeah exactly. Um Yeah, I don't know, man,

643
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: this I feel like I just wasted two thousand dollars.

644
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: This team is now winning a Super Bowl. They got

645
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: rid of all their offensive linemen. I still love the offense,

646
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: but I don't know they're running back. Having two running

647
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: backs it's such an ancient dinosaurs sign. So it's right

648
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: up Grooting and Maddox Alley where it's like, Okay, now

649
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: you guys have two good running backs and shake ups

650
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: I think way better Thanking and Drakes, So I'm open.

651
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where it's just adding assets

652
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: that are I still hope they're trading for Deshaun Watson.

653
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: I mean they have car now, they have a good

654
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: running back. They can trade to Houston, which Houston loves.

655
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: So I don't really know that. It kind of feels

656
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: like our our bet might be kind of dead there,

657
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: just because if you don't have an offensive line, you

658
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: can have all the weapons in the world. What's Derek

659
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: are gonna do? Is not how many times? So it's

660
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: just it's just been a weird offseason for someone that's

661
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: a big backer of Oakland. Well, it feels like all

662
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: of our futures bets are going by the wayside. Washington

663
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: is not working out, Las Vegas is gonna workout. We

664
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: still have the Colts in Miami. Those are fun ones

665
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: that might last. I forgot to bet the Cults. I

666
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: still got to get that. But I did get the Chargers.

667
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: I don't hate it. They they've been pretty quiet um

668
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: with everything going on. It's gonna be interesting to see

669
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: what this offense is gonna look like. But that's just

670
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: one of the teams. I it's hard for me to

671
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: have faith in them, just in the fact that Herbert

672
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: was incredible last year and he was so good that

673
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: he's not going to really sneak up on anyone of

674
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: this cup will coming season. So I got high hopes

675
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: for him. I liked them a lot, but it's just

676
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: one of the teams. I'm just not gonna They're one

677
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: of the rare teams that if they weren't the Chargers,

678
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: say this was, uh, the Eagles or the Giants, and

679
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: they had the same exact quarterback, I probably would but

680
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: a future on them. But the fact that it's the Chargers,

681
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. They're just inherently curse. So when

682
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: I when I when they make the playoffs the following year,

683
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: then I'll start betting them to win Super Bowls. All right,

684
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Speaker 1: I have I have one last question for each of

685
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: you that is right up your alley, and then we're

686
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: gonna get to a special opening. We're going to do

687
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: another opening with Simon Hunter. I'm not sure what we're

688
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: gonna open yet. Is it going to be a top Shot,

689
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: Is it going to be the package that Simon hunter

690
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: got from. He doesn't know who, but there's gonna be

691
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: an opening the first question, Simon, it's going into you

692
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: and I'll throw it back to the beginning. After all

693
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: this free agency, the team you most regret betting a

694
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,959
Speaker 1: futuron or the team you are least likely to better

695
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 1: future on. Now that some of the free agency signings

696
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: have happened, it's kind of the same where it's the Colts.

697
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: I had really high hopes the cultu are going to

698
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: make a lot of moves here. They had a lot

699
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: of salary cap and I know their generative manager is

700
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: really smart and he kind of likes to wait and

701
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: see what's left over and get the best value for

702
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: like the bank for his book. But I just like

703
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of players there that went on discount

704
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: the certain teams that like, I don't know why the

705
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: Colts and reach out and try to fill these holes.

706
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: Um So for me, yeah, I would say it's the

707
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: Colds that it's the team. I'm not gonna, like you said,

708
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna bet them again. I don't know. Now I

709
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: might I might hold off on that and see what

710
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: if they can add people free agency or what they

711
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: do in the draft. But ums, as far as we

712
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: go for upside at this point, Um, yeah, that that

713
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: Oakland's but feels like it's dead to right Spuddy. I

714
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what moves are gonna make, but right

715
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: now the moves they've made are just the worst ones.

716
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm a huge, huge fan of offensive line of defensive line,

717
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: and they have just made their own line a lot weaker.

718
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: So for me, that the worst one has to be s.

719
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you're like thirty years old and you still

720
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: call the Raiders Oakland not Las Vegas. Matthew Freedman, I'm

721
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna throw one at you that is right

722
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: up your alley. With what's happened during free agency, which

723
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: team with the right draft pick is most poised to

724
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: make a move on the Super Bowl Futures board? I

725
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: would say the Panthers. And part of it is that

726
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: they haven't done anything stupid in free agency. They haven't

727
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: traded away a lot of their ability to make moves

728
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,479
Speaker 1: in the draft. Uh, it's hard to know what's gonna

729
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: happen with Deshaun Watson with his legal situation, but it

730
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: if the Panthers could get a quarterback, they're right in it.

731
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: I think defensively they're going to improve. They spit all

732
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: seven of their draft picks last year on defense, and

733
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: it was markedly better last year. And it was it

734
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: was good in a bend, but don't break fashion. If

735
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: it could continue to improve, and then of course, if

736
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: they can get a quarterback, that offense could really take off.

737
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: And that offense was able to move the ball lash year,

738
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: they just weren't able to score many points. And so

739
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: with the ability to move the ball, eventually points will come.

740
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: If they can get a better passer. Man, I think

741
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: they move from you know, forty or fifty to one

742
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: in the market too closer to thirty to one. I

743
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: grabbed them before before free agency shortly after the draft

744
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: at sixty six to one. I really like the value

745
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: that I've had on them so far. I think a

746
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: lot of it is just not making mistakes in free

747
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: agency and by staying out of it and keeping their

748
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: ability to sign more players, uh, and then to make

749
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: moves in the draft. I think they are positioned. Oh

750
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: my god, I I I bet on the Panthers future

751
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: odds too. That's amazing. Simon did too. I think, yeah,

752
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: there you go. That's all in it all right, Samantha.

753
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: For you, given everything that we've talked about all of

754
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: the free agency signings, what is who is the one

755
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: player you're looking at that, given their new environment, you

756
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: think is primed to break out and would be sort

757
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: of your best sleeper pick as we speak for fantasy.

758
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: Have been so so many good moves for fantasy, Like,

759
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: I feel like there have been a lot of moves,

760
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: but not ones that have been super fantasy friendly. I

761
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: would say I one of those signings I do like

762
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: is well Fallered to the Dolphins. I think he is

763
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: a type of like stretched the field deep threat that

764
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: could really help. I mean, I think the verdict is

765
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: very still much out on to a I think he's

766
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: a very polarizing type topic right now. So it's kind

767
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: of a lot of that will depend on kind of

768
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: the progression that we see him taken to year two.

769
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: But I think that he could definitely improve this season. Obviously,

770
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: he missed a lot of last season with the PD stuff.

771
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: Him is the first game of this season, but I

772
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: think he could certainly finish in that low end wide

773
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: receiver one territory. If two is also progressive as well,

774
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't mind that I feel like he was the

775
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson security blanket. And then of course he's always

776
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: getting injured and always you know, getting suspended or whatever

777
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: the case may be. And when you get him into

778
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: a new system with another young quarterback and he's a

779
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: strong weapon to get down the field, I like it.

780
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: I like it a lot. Samantha Prividi, Matthew Friedman, thank

781
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 1: you for joining the favorites from the Volume and podcast Network. Simon,

782
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: we gotta open some stuff, man. Alright, folks, listen, there

783
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: is nothing more excited ben opening packs. And we got

784
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: Top Shot. We got another Top Shot pack. This time,

785
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: Simon went all in. Simon, you went all in all

786
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: Star game Top Shot. I'm kind of out of the

787
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: Top Shot game now, Like I'm tired of the glitches.

788
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm tired of not being able to so anything. I'm

789
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: tired of the beta. I'm tired of like how hard

790
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: it is to get a pack. Explain to me what

791
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: you did and what we're looking at. Well, look at

792
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: that you're just like all the other people online. And

793
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: I keep looking at the perspective that it's a free

794
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: lottery ticket and if you don't hit it, you don't

795
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: spend any money. So it's one of those are people

796
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: are complaining right now there's thre hundred thousand people in line,

797
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: and they feel like it's unfair. It's gonna keep blowing up,

798
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be millions and millions of people are

799
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: gonna be in line to get these really small amount

800
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: of packs. So we've seen the market going down. I

801
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: think people are the same intuit of you. They're kind

802
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: of sick of it. They just want to pull their

803
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: money off the site. So again, these things are gonna

804
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: go in waves. That's why I'm just gonna hold my

805
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: cards because this one's probably the most expensive one I pay.

806
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: I think it was two nine for the pack. I

807
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: remember what I know. There's an All Star. There might

808
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: be seven other moments in it. So obviously we're open

809
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: for a Lebron or Steph Carry or something along those lines.

810
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: So I'm pretty pretty excited to find about open up

811
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: the pack. Let's open it. It's so exciting when you

812
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: get like the burst and the rotation. We're clicking to

813
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: reveal right now, just so people know what's happening. I'm

814
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 1: seeing up the first one, my guy kick number two.

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Speaker 1: You got a comment, we got a Max Cleber Jesus

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Speaker 1: not going well for you so far, Thank you cha.

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Speaker 1: We got a jump shot from Cole anth Anthony numbers

818
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Speaker 1: like Cole Anthony was on the path to being like

819
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Speaker 1: having a Rookie of the Year chance, and it's kind

820
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: of falling off the map here Team Durant All Stars. Holy,

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Speaker 1: that's a nice pool, dude. He's probably like Kauahi Leonard

822
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: from the Star Game. Always hope it's a dunk, but

823
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: I'll take a three pointer from Kauai. It's just the

824
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: name right, hoping for Lebron Common Steel. I'm a Sixers

825
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: fans I love, and you're a Sixers fans, so that's

826
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: who they headline at a Steel. But it's really a dunk. Now, Well,

827
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Speaker 1: I got my money back. Here we go, dude, are

828
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Speaker 1: you kidding me? Now? I got my money back. Dunk

829
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 1: my money back easy on the Kauai. Kauai is probably

830
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: going for like four or nine. But again, I'm not

831
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: gonna stell. You'll totally get it back. Lay up from

832
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Speaker 1: Ullo Boynzo. There's another Philly boy for you, a good

833
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: old Nova kid. Yeah. So not the best comments, but

834
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Speaker 1: with we'll take it with Kauai yeah, look, the Kauai

835
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: is a winner. It's just like and the market is

836
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: still sort of on fire, but it just feels like,

837
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 1: you know, it had that moment for about two weeks

838
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: where it's all anybody could talk about. But it was

839
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: too much broke. People shouldn't be paying sixty bucks for

840
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: like a common cart. It was like just insanity of pricing. Alright,

841
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Speaker 1: that's gonna wrap it up. For the favorites on the

842
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: Volume podcast Network, we had Matthew Friedman, we had Samantha Prividi,

843
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: we had Simon Hunter, my co host. You can download

844
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Speaker 1: a Apple podcast, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. We'll

845
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Speaker 1: be back on Thursday for the Thunderdome Trivia edition. Until

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Speaker 1: next time, I Love you,