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Speaker 1: while you're there. Hey, I'm Nora Jones and today I'm

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Speaker 1: playing along with Michelle and degio Cello. I'm just playing

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Speaker 1: This is Sarah Oda.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Our guest today is Grammy winning singer, songwriter, bassist,

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Speaker 2: producer known for prolific work across jazz, funk, soul, and

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Speaker 2: beyond Michelle and Deggiocello.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the original Badass.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 2: She has been a pioneering voice since the nineties until now,

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Speaker 2: and currently she has been touring and performing music around

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Speaker 2: her project titled No More Water The Gospel of James Baldwin,

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Speaker 2: which is her highly acclaimed musical tribute to the American

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Speaker 2: writer and civil rights activist James Baldwin, honoring his legacy

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Speaker 2: by weaving her music with themes of struggle, identity, race, religion, love.

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Speaker 1: The human condition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and she just announced her new album, Synonym. It's

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Speaker 2: out October second, and it's a beautifully curated collection of

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Speaker 2: cover song duets featuring incredible guests like Cynthia Rivokat, Power,

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Speaker 2: Shaka Khan, Brandy Carlyle, Emily King, Liz Wright, Madison Cunningham,

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Speaker 2: Nick Hakeem, Robert Glasper and even more. And it's available

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Speaker 2: to pre order now, so be sure to keep an

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Speaker 2: eye out for it.

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Speaker 4: This was so fun.

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Speaker 1: I love her so much, I've loved her for so long,

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Speaker 1: so it was really special. She's just such a special

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Speaker 1: soul too. She's really just like good human.

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Speaker 2: Good person. She talks a little bit about separating her

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Speaker 2: bass player self from her singer self and how those

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Speaker 2: two roles kind of contradict them each other, which is interesting.

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Speaker 2: And you'll hear more about her her James Baldwin projects

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Speaker 2: and a lot of really cool bass driven duets in

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Speaker 2: this one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great. She played some guitar too. I

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Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed this episode with Michelle and Digio Cello.

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Speaker 5: M you push me away. My apologies fall on your

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Speaker 5: deaf ears, you curse my name.

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Speaker 6: Ly, and now your eyes they look at me.

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Speaker 7: Where I stand, ashamed, amidst my foolish pride, because for us,

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Speaker 7: they'll be no more.

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Speaker 8: Gus from us, they'll be no more. And now my

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Speaker 1: You bed.

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Speaker 9: Badly.

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Speaker 1: Boom, that's great. Thanks for playing that song with me.

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Speaker 1: That was my request. I love that album and I

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Speaker 4: And is that a Craig Street album?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I had started that record. It's my third record, and

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Speaker 7: I started it with another producer and it just went

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Speaker 7: up in flames and the label was so unhappy. But

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Speaker 7: I had like a dollar left. And I've known Craig

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Speaker 7: since I was a young person. He was plastering my

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Speaker 7: then manager's wall, used to do construction, and he's just

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Speaker 7: always He's the first person to give me blue by

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Speaker 7: Joni Mitchell. He introduced me to Hendricks. He's just someone

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Speaker 7: very important to me and so when it all fell apart,

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Speaker 7: I called him. Was like call someone you trust in love,

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Speaker 7: and that's how I met Chris and Doyle and just

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Speaker 6: And so.

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Speaker 7: He persuaded me to get back to basics. I come

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Speaker 7: two records are highly produced, you know, a lot of

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Speaker 7: nitpicking is what I call it, skin grafting and tricks.

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Speaker 7: But it allowed me to like play everything and like

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Speaker 6: It came down to me just writing songs.

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Speaker 7: And I have to be honest, at that time, it

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Speaker 7: so I didn't play a lot of bass, just really

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Speaker 6: Well, it was beautiful, made it much better.

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Speaker 4: You're on the album.

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Speaker 1: Amazing. It was the first time so you met through

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Speaker 1: Craig Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well the album is so

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Speaker 1: I remember Craig gave me the album. We were preparing

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Craig is a is a gift and as a

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Speaker 7: from him. Yeah, and tell me about that time. Where

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Speaker 7: did y'all record?

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Speaker 4: Well, we recorded up at a lair. Did you record there?

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Speaker 6: I've been there. I love that place.

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Speaker 1: It's upstate and we were isolated and it was really beautiful.

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Speaker 1: But our version of the record with Craig went up

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Speaker 1: in flames. It was a whole thing. But in the end,

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Speaker 1: you know, three of my favorite songs on that album

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Speaker 1: we're produced by him. Yeah, flames label label flames, that's

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Speaker 1: what I call the label label flames.

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Speaker 1: I mean, me and Craig are good, but I'm sure

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Speaker 1: it was a lot. It was a lot between us

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Speaker 1: then but he's so incredible.

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Speaker 7: He's just an incredible human And man, yeah, I'm are

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Speaker 7: you on a label now?

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Speaker 1: I'm still in Blue Note Yeah, I was then and

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Speaker 1: I am now. And we actually put the like twentieth

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Speaker 1: I got to really dig into the original that that

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Speaker 1: never really got to finish it, so you know, it

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Speaker 6: To get I've learned from him, nothing's ever exactly. I

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Speaker 6: want to say. The first time I met you was

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Speaker 6: that New Blue really a really long time ago. You

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Speaker 4: I played with Ilhan and his bands.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that must have been twenty five years ago.

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Speaker 6: Right, you had different energy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, baby energy.

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Speaker 6: You are always so joyful. I do remember I was.

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Speaker 1: Probably drinking at that time a lot, if it was

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having having me here.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for coming, and thanks for coming Chris.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really beautiful and it's nice to see people

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Speaker 7: Yeah, speaking of youth, I mean, I think a lot

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Speaker 7: now because of youth. Youth is wasted on the young, absolutely,

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Speaker 7: and it's even here like I would never do anything

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Speaker 7: musicians who aren't competitive and that we're all in a conversation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Together, it's a really fun way to connect. I find.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, do you do you do you like? Do you

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Speaker 7: think of yourself so separately as the pianist, musician and

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Speaker 1: I think I think I'm better when the two are combined.

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Speaker 1: I overthink, you know. It's a nice way to sort

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's very different for me. When I play the bass.

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Speaker 7: I'm completely enthralled with the bass and I could care

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Speaker 1: Well, it seems like it's a little harder of a

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Speaker 4: The bass right, and then with singing it's nice to flow.

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Speaker 7: It's nice to flow, and that's yeah, it's a contradiction.

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Speaker 7: And then I find when I'm singing there's an audience,

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Speaker 7: I want to engage them, and I become very insular

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Speaker 1: That's interesting. Well, I liked how on that song you sang,

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Speaker 6: Oh, this is my friend.

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Speaker 7: That record is about a breakup, noted, noted, I got that,

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Speaker 7: in the Chelsea Hotel. Wow, and uh it's not wow

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Speaker 7: terrible pre sobriety, yeah, oh yeah, but it was just

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Speaker 1: And just gross. Okay, from all accounts, that's what I thought.

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Speaker 7: And so I would go down to the guitar store

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Speaker 7: And he brought this bass up and I don't know

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Speaker 1: Really it was.

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Speaker 7: And I got to say, I don't this is terrible

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Speaker 7: I've I just it just really changed my life. It's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got the energy.

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Speaker 7: It's a six sixty four neck with a sixty three body.

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Speaker 1: That's cool. Yeah, yeah, what do you want to we

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Speaker 1: do power, Let's do.

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Speaker 6: Power, because I like I want to play with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, to be honest, I love that you suggested

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Speaker 1: this song. Oh good A huge Curtis Mayfield fan and too,

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Speaker 1: I just yeah, this song is deep.

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Speaker 6: Who did you listen to growing up? Though?

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Speaker 1: Like a lot of Aretha and Ray Charles and Willie

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Speaker 7: Do you feel if you don't mind, I guess that's

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Speaker 7: for my own podcast I don't have. But as a

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think category has always eluded me. Yes, but.

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Speaker 1: Willie or you know, they're not really genre. They're all

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Speaker 6: Just good songs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 14: We were the power for the people. That's all we

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Speaker 13: Protect them in thoms when we live in fee power

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Speaker 4: That felt good. I love Curtis Mayfield so much.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: You know, and there's no side.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: No, I love that. I mean it is things are

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Speaker 6: Do you read the news a lot?

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Speaker 1: you watch TV. No, I watched TV shows. I don't

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Speaker 7: You can tell me, you can edited out. I just

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Speaker 1: Right now, I'm reading a book, which is makes me

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Speaker 6: Yeah, what do you watch?

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Speaker 1: I'm watching The Pit and.

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Speaker 6: I love him.

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Speaker 1: It's emotional but yeah, I don't know. I like I

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Speaker 6: Huh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's scary.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because sometimes I want the I want my storytelling

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 7: No, No, I don't. I don't thanks to my godchild.

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Speaker 7: I don't do Instagram. I literally, if I didn't have

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Speaker 6: That's nice, that's the screen.

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Speaker 4: I feel tied to it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't feel like I'm doing anything fun

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: It's your desk and your ATM.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, dealing with my kids.

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Speaker 1: Patient portals.

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Speaker 6: You just don't bring up patient portals. Yeah, oh my god.

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Speaker 4: Portals, the portals into madness.

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Speaker 7: Madness, and I really like that word portal from my side,

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Speaker 7: but they've totally changed it.

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Speaker 4: They've ruined the word for me.

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Speaker 1: I agree. All right, are you about to go on

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Speaker 6: I thought I thought it was over.

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Speaker 7: You know, we've been playing it since twenty sixteen, and

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Speaker 6: The program they want, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's such a beautiful piece of music connected

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Speaker 6: You know, you're so kind, and.

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Speaker 1: I think it really speaks to people, you know.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, but well that's the other thing we've been

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Speaker 6: But yeah.

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Speaker 7: I guess when you go on tour, is it always promotional?

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Speaker 7: You're promoting a record, do you I tried to stop that, Okay,

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Speaker 7: so you choose sets, you like.

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Speaker 4: I about five or six years ago I tried to start.

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Speaker 1: You know, my kids were little too, so I started

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Speaker 1: so you're staying creative. I started releasing singles so that

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Speaker 1: it would be a little more like, we have one

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Speaker 4: But it's just we're just playing music, you know.

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Speaker 1: So that's been nice.

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Speaker 6: Your husband a musician.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's great. Okay, he plays piano and organ. Two

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Speaker 6: I call that the crazy people. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

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Speaker 7: I was like Bud Piles, y'all already got it some

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Speaker 7: other because it's the mast is percussive, it's harmonic, it's melodic.

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Speaker 4: It is kind of like it.

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Speaker 1: And that opened up a lot of stuff for me.

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Speaker 1: Not that I am quite you know, I'm not a

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Speaker 6: And I'm really enjoyed playing with you. Yeah and hi, Yeah, thanks, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 6: all right. I want to do price of the ticket.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is from the James Brolin album. You mean

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Speaker 1: this song struck me so much?

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Speaker 6: Thanks? So were you brought up with religion?

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Speaker 6: Telest I do judge the congregation about the song choices?

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Speaker 4: I did. I will say I learned how to sing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was it was special. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Are you a person of faith now or like dare say, atheist?

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Speaker 1: I'm not an atheist agnostic. I think I'm just more spiritual.

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Speaker 1: But I try to go to church with my kids

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Speaker 4: But we make it a few times a year.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad you said that. I appreciate that. Yeah a man.

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Speaker 6: Oh I like them all. Yeah, I know about them

451
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Speaker 6: all or read about them all.

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Speaker 4: Oh you're a student of it.

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Speaker 6: Well yeah, or I'm so.

454
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Speaker 7: I've had such dogma as trying to clear my mind,

455
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Speaker 7: have better understanding, and also to be culturally fluid. And

456
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Speaker 7: more so I try the nothingness, like thinking there's just

457
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Speaker 7: absolutely nothing and all of this is just chance. And

458
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Speaker 7: it made me extremely nihilistic, and so I'm trying to

459
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Speaker 7: find the middle way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it made you a nihilistic. Does that mean it

461
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Speaker 1: made you not care about anything?

462
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Speaker 6: Oh? I was just like, okay, if that's the case.

463
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's a point of getting up.

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Speaker 7: And it was nothing scarier than someone who has nothing

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Speaker 7: to lose.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 7: So in my limited see good verb man.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, did you grow up in church?

469
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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, well I had a very real Baptist and

470
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Speaker 7: like born again. My mother is extremely religious, and then

471
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Speaker 7: my father found it in the end as he made

472
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Speaker 7: a great journey. But one of my yeah, I am

473
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Speaker 7: experiencing one of my mentors. They're about to make the

474
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Speaker 7: Great adventure. They've been told that the great adventure is

475
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Speaker 7: coming soon. And it's interesting to watch him experience it

476
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Speaker 7: as a mind exercise. He's very of the mind, and

477
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Speaker 7: so I'm I'm observing him. I have to reconcile that

478
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Speaker 7: you you are a body.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, yeah, and so that is that is something experience.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you are a body, yes and wow. And I think,

481
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Speaker 7: especially like in Hinduism or just some people are warriors,

482
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Speaker 7: some people are soldiers. Some people that is their.

483
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Speaker 6: Gift.

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Speaker 7: And I'm really trying to find the grace to understand that.

485
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Speaker 6: That is.

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Speaker 7: The center of being that you have to reconcile with

487
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Speaker 7: and learn to wield your physical power. And so for me,

488
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 7: the price of the ticket is understanding that both sides

489
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Speaker 7: of the battle. I just I just have to have

490
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Speaker 7: humility because I can't imagine. I can't, but it's hard

491
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Speaker 7: to imagine that that is your energetic frequency.

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Speaker 17: All right, whoa, whoah, whoa?

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Speaker 6: Tell me if that help me get you see you come, whoa.

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Speaker 18: Whoa.

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Speaker 6: I'm just walking trying to get hold. I ain't doing nothing.

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Speaker 6: Leave me alone, nor.

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Speaker 19: Give me wings to fly before they shoot me down

498
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Speaker 19: and I die. Don't let them shoe me.

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Speaker 7: Down and I.

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Speaker 9: Bow.

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Speaker 6: Put down your gun, take your hands off me.

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Speaker 11: Boy, put down your gun. Take your hands off me. Officer,

503
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Speaker 11: officer of.

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Speaker 3: Hoh, you're afraid like me, but look at my hat.

505
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Speaker 3: Please don't shoot me.

506
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Speaker 20: Whoa, boot down your gun, take your hands off me. Boh,

507
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 20: put down your gun, take your hands off me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you see, you know what I mean. It's like

509
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 6: you go out there and like it's like you wait

510
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 6: for the claps after that. Now I'm not waiting for

511
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 6: the claps after that.

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Speaker 3: You know.

513
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Speaker 6: It's like a weird exchange.

514
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, most people just because it's so intense.

515
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, but that's what's weird about touring that and

516
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 7: but uh yeah because I yeah, empathy, trying to have empathy,

517
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 7: trying to really practice that as a human.

518
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's rough, It is rough.

519
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 11: But I mean.

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Speaker 1: My favorite line in this is I know you're afraid

521
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Speaker 1: like me, and that is that is saying a lot.

522
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Speaker 7: I mean I'm petrified. Yeah, and yeah, just learning a lot. Meet,

523
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 7: I too, am learning that I am a body. I

524
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Speaker 7: live in my head and when I see such a

525
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 7: loss of life, it's, uh, it's just I just I

526
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Speaker 7: just really thought we would have evolve as the human

527
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 7: species to understand the nature of violence. Like I said,

528
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Speaker 7: that's why I try to understand the soldier, because I'm

529
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Speaker 7: sure the people in Ukraine feel a specific way juxtaposed

530
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Speaker 7: to the people in Russia. The soldiers fighting, but I

531
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Speaker 7: have to understand these are just young men, especially having

532
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 7: a son, and when you're conscripted at eighteen nineteen, I

533
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 7: just remember myself at that age and up till twenty five.

534
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Speaker 6: I just know that that core of my being was

535
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 6: not yet fully formed. And so just yeah, I just

536
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 6: try to really have empathy towards them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good way to approach anyone. You know,

538
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: when you strip it all away, we're all just these

539
00:37:54,280 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: little souls with issues and trauma, you misinformation, and we're

540
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: just thinking we're doing the right thing. Everyone else probably

541
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Speaker 1: thinks they're doing the right.

542
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Speaker 7: Thing, and I know I'm not yea and some people,

543
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 7: and yeah, even the wanting of the collapse changes as

544
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 7: you progress through time learning about that.

545
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Speaker 1: Well, this has been amazing. I'm so glad you came. Yeah,

546
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Speaker 1: it's so nice to share.

547
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Speaker 4: Time with you. Thanks for spending it with me.

548
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Speaker 6: I appreciate that.

549
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 4: And you're going on tour.

550
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Speaker 6: For the Yeah, for how long?

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Speaker 7: Just for a couple of weeks and then we'll go

552
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Speaker 7: to Europe and yeah, and how big is the band?

553
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Speaker 8: Uh?

554
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 7: It's five of us, Jake Sherman on Oregon, Chris Bruce

555
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 7: on the guitar, A Browns on drums, and Justin Hicks

556
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 7: the amazing vocalists, And we co wrote a lot of

557
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 7: that together. It was just like, I'm still a fan

558
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 7: of people, and I'm just Ustin's biggest fan, and I

559
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 7: am just humbled every time he opens his mouth. And

560
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Speaker 7: so it's good to be in the beginner's mind. I'm

561
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 7: just holding on and just trying to be a good

562
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Speaker 7: supportive you know, bandmate. And it's and it's it's special

563
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 7: when we go. But like I said, it's got a

564
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 7: heaviness to it. But like I said, learning a lot, Well,

565
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Speaker 7: that sounds beautiful. Oh did you watch it Ed Sullivan

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Speaker 7: documentary and how they recommend it?

567
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Speaker 6: That's great?

568
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Speaker 7: Yeah, because also it's on Netflix. Are you sponsored?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 11: We are Netflix.

571
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Speaker 7: I The part that got me was Nat King Cole

572
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Speaker 7: and Harry Belafonte and Pearl Bailey.

573
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Speaker 6: They were performing in action.

574
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Speaker 19: They are.

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Speaker 7: Activists at this moment in time and and and it

576
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 7: just was really helped me understand some things. I want

577
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Speaker 7: you to laugh and I want you to have a

578
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 7: good time, and that is the activism as well and

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Speaker 7: performing well and being a decent human being. It just

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Speaker 7: really like now I'm God bless ed Sullivan.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to watch it now.

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Speaker 6: It's really good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. No, I do think there's something in

584
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Speaker 1: that singing truth, you know, just singing from your heart.

585
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Speaker 1: That's a part of it.

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Speaker 6: You want to do trouble.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is on the Baldwin album as well.

588
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love this one.

589
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Speaker 6: I'm telling you, I know how I started singing?

590
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Speaker 4: Yeah, how did you start singing?

591
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Speaker 7: I was writing all these songs and I would want

592
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Speaker 7: singers to come and they never showed up, and so

593
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Speaker 7: I just started doing it. And then I also have

594
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Speaker 7: to thank Craig Street. Like bitter is the the moment

595
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Speaker 7: someone was pushing me to sing because I think, you know,

596
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Speaker 7: unlike jay Z, I don't think I would have aged

597
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 7: well as an MC. And I'm you know, so I'm

598
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 7: like a very shy singer.

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Speaker 1: You sing very quiet. I noticed, But I love that

600
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: because it makes me want to listen harder.

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Speaker 6: It's called the other fear. So yeah, I'm gonna let you.

602
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 7: Plus I must admit it's like amazing, and thank you

603
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 7: for singing the songs because that is like really.

604
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Speaker 6: Just and puts a person in awe and I'm grateful.

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Speaker 1: I'm grateful to thank you.

606
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Speaker 6: How does that tempo?

607
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Speaker 5: Feel?

608
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Speaker 17: Sorry that.

609
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Speaker 6: What's some of the world for?

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Speaker 1: Trouble?

611
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Speaker 18: That's what we're in. Everyone start for the strouble till

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Speaker 18: it begins.

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Speaker 1: Fame makes you humble.

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Speaker 10: It is hard to sing What's some of the world for?

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Speaker 18: Just be be right here right now that time, Just

616
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Speaker 18: be be right here. Right now, ah bad, just be

617
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 18: being right here right that we can los up with

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Speaker 18: a struggle starts right here today.

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Speaker 21: All my talk about the truth. It's time to make

620
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Speaker 21: a change. But a aching hard's the use?

621
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Speaker 11: What's another word of job?

622
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 6: That's when win.

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Speaker 10: Everyone starts for the struggle till it begins pain macal homebook,

624
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Speaker 10: Who is hard to sing? What's another word for trouble?

625
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Speaker 11: Sound connected?

626
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Speaker 10: And you should see.

627
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Speaker 9: How much this Churches movie mes.

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Speaker 11: It's like a farm, but a got you.

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Speaker 3: If you do.

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Speaker 15: No thing, it's quite as fool or in discreet, no

631
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Speaker 15: violent tongue, no loose I see you small.

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Speaker 10: What's another word for trouble?

633
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 18: Because that's what we wearing.

634
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Speaker 10: Everyone's down for the struggle until it begins. Pain makes

635
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Speaker 10: your homebo HER's heart saying, what's another word for trouble?

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Speaker 4: I'm so excited about this.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so special.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you Chris for joining Yeah, thanks and thanks

640
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: Michelle so nice to hang and play.

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Speaker 6: Oh thanks.

642
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 1: You speak about things that are really beautiful and really nice.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate you, and I hope you enjoy your life

644
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Speaker 6: and your children, and I can't wait to see what

645
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 6: you make in Texas. I'm so exciting.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thanks for everything.

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Speaker 6: Thanks all right, thank you everybody.

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Speaker 1: That was fun to play. Yeah, she's badass, she really is.

649
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Speaker 1: And sweet, super sweet and genuine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was great, just like you know, one of

651
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 4: those artists I feel like, who.

652
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: Lives and breathes sort of what they're doing in a

653
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: way that is really special. If you want to know

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Speaker 1: what songs we played in this episode, we did the

655
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Speaker 1: song Bitter, which was the title track from her album Bitter,

656
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: which came out in nineteen ninety nine. Second song was

657
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: Powered the People classic Curtis Mayfield song from Sweet Exorcist,

658
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: which came out in nineteen seventy four, and a demo

659
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: version also appears on the expanded album of his called

660
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Speaker 1: Curtis from nineteen seventy. The third song we did is

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Speaker 1: called the Price of the Ticket. That song is from

662
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Speaker 1: No More Water The Gospel of James Baldwin, which was

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Speaker 1: released in twenty twenty four. The fourth song was Trouble

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Speaker 1: from No More Water as well. Special thanks to Michelle

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Speaker 1: and Degocello for joining us today, and special thanks to

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Speaker 1: Chris Bruce for joining us on guitar.

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Speaker 11: To day.

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Speaker 1: Nora Jones is Playing Along is a production of iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Visit Nora Jones channel and be sure to subscribe while

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Speaker 1: you're there. I'm your host, Norah Jones. This episode was

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Speaker 1: recorded by Matt Marinelli, mixed by Jamie Landry. Audio post

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Speaker 1: production and mastering by Greg Tobler. Artwork by Eliza Frye.

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Speaker 1: Photography by Shervin Linez. Produced by Norah Jones and Sarah Oda.

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Speaker 1: Executive producers Aaron wan Kaufman and Jordan Runtogg, Marketing Lee

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Speaker 1: Alison Kanter Grab Thanks for joining us.

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