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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. Okay, everyone, welcome home.
Speaker 1: It's getting harder to say welcome home in an environment
Speaker 1: that is treating us like we are on foreign territory.
Speaker 1: Completely shocked by the rapid pace, not necessarily the rulings,
Speaker 1: but the rapid pace in which we are seeing the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court undo voting rights, undo the protections of civil
Speaker 1: and human rights in this country. We just got news,
Speaker 1: of course, last night that in Wes Allen, Alabama Secretary
Speaker 1: of State versus Marcus Castor, that they have agreed the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court has allowed Alabama to proceed with the original
Speaker 1: maps before there was a court order redrawing districts to
Speaker 1: ensure that Terry School Congress from Terry School and Shamari Figures,
Speaker 1: who is a new member of Congress serving his first term,
Speaker 1: would both be able to have seats in Alabama, a
Speaker 1: place that has a huge black population. Well, the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court just yesterday says, you know what, We're going to
Speaker 1: go back to how things were. We're going to go
Speaker 1: back to the original maps before the court order and
Speaker 1: we are going to do that, despite the fact, despite
Speaker 1: the fact that on Tuesday, May nineteenth, an election for
Speaker 1: which ballots are already printed, that have Terry Sewle's name
Speaker 1: on them, that have SCHAMAI Figure's name on them, Despite
Speaker 1: the fact that people have already early voted, Despite the
Speaker 1: fact that folks who received absentee ballots, despite the fact
Speaker 1: that military officials who are overseas have their ballots, have
Speaker 1: probably already cast their ballots, have probably already mailed in
Speaker 1: their ballots right have voted. What this country is doing
Speaker 1: to voting is something that is an abomination to us.
Speaker 1: All our ancestors are rolling over in their graves, and yes,
Speaker 1: white folks, even yours, even yours. As you seek to
Speaker 1: protect and defend democracy, as you fight for liberty and
Speaker 1: justice for all, particularly in this hour, your ancestors too
Speaker 1: have to be rolling over in their grapes. Unless they
Speaker 1: were the Confederates, then maybe they celebrate. Maybe they're celebrating.
Speaker 1: But speaking of the Confederates, I also want to turn
Speaker 1: our attention to Louisiana. What is important to know in
Speaker 1: this moment is that Memphis no longer has a majority
Speaker 1: black district. There was one majority minority district in all
Speaker 1: of Tennessee. We can get to the demographics of these states. Surely,
Speaker 1: maybe somebody on our team can pull them up. What's
Speaker 1: the black population in Tennessee? What is it in South Carolina?
Speaker 1: What is it in Louisiana? What is it in Mississippi?
Speaker 1: What is it in Alabama? We should know these things.
Speaker 1: But the only black district in all of Tennessee. The
Speaker 1: state legislature last week acted in a line met with
Speaker 1: what the Supreme Court ruled in Louisiana versus Calais. Calais,
Speaker 1: by the way, was an insurrectionist who was on Capitol
Speaker 1: Hill on January sixth. Being a terrorist has a Supreme
Speaker 1: Court decision in his name. Now where they have decided
Speaker 1: that they would side with the Confederates, where they would
Speaker 1: side with white nationalists, where they would side with white supremacists,
Speaker 1: and strip us of our voting power, diluting our voices
Speaker 1: in congressional races.
Speaker 2: So here we have it.
Speaker 1: Louisiana said, hold my beer. Their election is on Saturday. Alabama,
Speaker 1: as I said, is on Tuesday. But Louisiana's election is Saturday.
Speaker 1: It is this coming Saturday again, just like Alabama ballots
Speaker 1: have gone out. These members of Congress, Troy Carter, Cleo Fields,
Speaker 1: Cleo Fields, who fought for decades to ensure that Baton
Speaker 1: Rouge would have a black voice in Congress, hasn't in
Speaker 1: there long at all.
Speaker 2: Seed is now stripped.
Speaker 1: Most likely, they have until June first in Louisiana to
Speaker 1: come up with a congressional map that makes sense, long
Speaker 1: after this Saturday primary, Long after these politicians who say
Speaker 1: they're protected democracy and clutching their pearls at voter fraud
Speaker 1: that does not freaking exist, are creating the environment for
Speaker 1: electoral dysfunction, for voter suppression, and for people to have
Speaker 1: to have their voices counted not once, but twice and
Speaker 1: then a third time if you count the general election.
Speaker 1: So in Louisiana, this is what Governor Landry had to
Speaker 1: say when he appeared on CBS sixty minutes.
Speaker 2: Let's listen.
Speaker 3: In the United States, we get equal rights, no one
Speaker 3: gets extra rights.
Speaker 4: This past Tuesday, we went to Baton Rouge and met
Speaker 4: Governor Jeff Landry at the governor's mansion, a close ally
Speaker 4: of President Trump. He dominates louisianaics. The colorful conservative Cajun
Speaker 4: was the state's Attorney General before winning the top job
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: You cannot say that we are all created equal, and
Speaker 3: at states must treat everyone equal on at a law
Speaker 3: and then allow a law to sort people based upon race.
Speaker 4: Following the Supreme Court decision, Governor Landry declared a state
Speaker 4: of emergency and abruptly suspended Congressional House primaries right as
Speaker 4: voting was starting, ordering a do over at a future date,
Speaker 4: leaving voters dazed and confused.
Speaker 5: You declared a state of emergency. What exactly is the emergency?
Speaker 3: We've got? The highest court at Alliance says the map
Speaker 3: that you have is unconstitutional, So we don't have a
Speaker 3: map under which our voters can vote on.
Speaker 5: This country has held elections during the Civil War, during
Speaker 5: two World Wars, elections still went on.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have an election, and we're actually gonna have
Speaker 3: an election or election day.
Speaker 5: But voting was already happening as we sit here right now.
Speaker 5: More than forty five thousand ballots have been returned.
Speaker 2: What happens to those voters?
Speaker 3: Ballots are discarded and those voters will vote again in November.
Speaker 5: You say that like it's not a big deal.
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's not a big deal. It's not my fault.
Speaker 3: If anybody has agrievance, take it to the United States
Speaker 3: Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: It's not my fault.
Speaker 1: But what is your fault, Governor Landry, is the fact
Speaker 1: that you called a state of an emergency to suspend
Speaker 1: an election or at least part of an election, when
Speaker 1: there is no emergency. You said they are going to
Speaker 1: vote twice. They're actually not going to vote twice because
Speaker 1: you have to have another election where they vote for
Speaker 1: their representative of not choice but force. Because they're representatives
Speaker 1: of choice are Cleo Fhiells and Troy Carter, And now
Speaker 1: one of them will be out of a seat. So
Speaker 1: it actually is absolutely your fault. You do have the
Speaker 1: ability to do something. And the people of Louisiana are
Speaker 1: speaking back. They're saying, you're saying it's not your fault. Well,
Speaker 1: we say recall. And so what has to happen now
Speaker 1: is there has to be consequences for when people exact
Speaker 1: harm on the black community.
Speaker 2: You are diluting votes.
Speaker 1: You are siding with white supremacists with Confederate mentality to
Speaker 1: strip us of our voting power.
Speaker 2: And so I think that is what's important. Thank you all.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of your comments. Somebody said, I
Speaker 1: love angry Angela. I am so angry, but really it
Speaker 1: is deep grief because I don't believe that we deserve
Speaker 1: to go backwards in this moment. There is someone who's
Speaker 1: been fighting on the Senate Government Affairs Committee in Louisiana.
Speaker 2: He is the nephew of Congressman Troy Carter.
Speaker 1: His name is Senator Gary Carter, and I want you
Speaker 1: all to hear the very righteous protest he engaged in
Speaker 1: in a committee hearing where he asked a very simple question.
Speaker 1: He said, the Secretary of State is always here for
Speaker 1: a hearing. Where are you today, sir? Let's roll the click.
Speaker 6: The reason why we're here today is because there's a
Speaker 6: suspension of ongoing congressional elections, and so I guess before
Speaker 6: we start the agenda, I like to hear from the
Speaker 6: Secretary of State or someone from the Secretary of State's office.
Speaker 3: Nobody is here from the Secretary of State's office.
Speaker 6: Well as chair of the committee. I have some very
Speaker 6: important questions that I would like to be addressed. We
Speaker 6: have an ongoing election for Congress, and at the time,
Speaker 6: the Secretary of State issued a statement declaring an emergency.
Speaker 6: I would like to know how many people have requested
Speaker 6: early ballots. Do you have that information, mister chairman? How
Speaker 6: many people have requested Earlsenary?
Speaker 1: I have not, But have you reached out to the
Speaker 1: Secretary of State before this meeting?
Speaker 6: I can't recall a meeting of the Senate Government and
Speaker 6: Affairs Committee where someone from the Secretary of State office
Speaker 6: has not been sitting off to the side. So it
Speaker 6: was my expectation that the Secretary of State would be
Speaker 6: in this committee meeting to know, quite honestly, how many
Speaker 6: people had voted at the time the governor suspended the election,
Speaker 6: and what happened to those ballots. Are those ballots being
Speaker 6: preserved somewhere? Are those ballots being counted? Can you tell me?
Speaker 6: Can you tell me, mister chairman, how many people had
Speaker 6: voted at the time the governor has suspended Louisiana Louisiana's
Speaker 6: congressional elections.
Speaker 7: No, I cannot.
Speaker 6: But there's already an ongoing election regarding congressional maps that
Speaker 6: are in place, and my simple question is what's the
Speaker 6: status of those votes that's already been cast. Are those
Speaker 6: votes are going to be counted or are they going
Speaker 6: to be discarded?
Speaker 2: Simple question.
Speaker 5: I can't answer that question.
Speaker 6: My first question was about the votes that were already
Speaker 6: cast before he ensued the suspend.
Speaker 5: Didn't take a recess right now?
Speaker 6: Why I only as like two questions, mister chairman, as
Speaker 6: I was saying before our break, I want to know
Speaker 6: from the Secretary of State's office, and I demand to
Speaker 6: know before the next meeting. Is my understanding this committee
Speaker 6: is going to meet.
Speaker 1: Well, and we can continue to play this another time.
Speaker 1: Dere we can go ahead, Thank you. I'll get your attention.
Speaker 1: I want people to see that clip. Will make sure
Speaker 1: that we put that up on social again. Gary Carter
Speaker 1: was holding the line. He was pushing for the Secretary
Speaker 1: of State to answer what happens to these people who've
Speaker 1: cast their ballots. It is so important that legal advocates
Speaker 1: across states are paying attention to the disenfranchisement of voters.
Speaker 1: Of course, there are people like Clarence Thomas on the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court who would argue, well, they're voting on something
Speaker 1: that's unconstitutional anyway. On what basis, sir, On what basis
Speaker 1: there is representation, There is taxation.
Speaker 2: Included in the constitution.
Speaker 1: There was nothing that allowed for you all to jerry
Speaker 1: mander in a partisan way districts, and certainly certainly not
Speaker 1: by disenfranchise black voters. Now you could say, Clarence, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to go back to win black people, particularly in
Speaker 1: the South. We're counted as a part of the three
Speaker 1: fifths compromise for the purposes of representation and taxation.
Speaker 2: You can do that.
Speaker 1: You can do that, but you're gonna burn in hot,
Speaker 1: fiery hell. You will burn in hot, fiery hell for that,
Speaker 1: because what you're doing is disenfranchising people of your same hue.
Speaker 2: Sir, What is the justification for that?
Speaker 1: The Constitution should never be something that is interpreted word
Speaker 1: for word without the idea that black people would one
Speaker 1: day be liberated. Now, Clarence Thomas is what they call
Speaker 1: from constitutional law scholars a strict constructionist. That means he
Speaker 1: wants it to be interpreted word for word, letter for letter,
Speaker 1: whatever the framers meant, whatever they wrote. He wants to
Speaker 1: interpret it in that very strict way. The problem is,
Speaker 1: Clarence's ass wouldn't have been on the bench. He would
Speaker 1: not have been on the bench if he interpreted it
Speaker 1: word for word. So what he does is he tries
Speaker 1: to apply to us one way and he gives himself
Speaker 1: out another way. We're not here for that, but I
Speaker 1: want to I want to lean in here. We have
Speaker 1: some comments coming in. One that I really really appreciate
Speaker 1: is this question from Ken Lawn. I hope I say
Speaker 1: your name right, Jones, Thank you so much, he says,
Speaker 1: Sis ANGELA worst case scenario, Where do you see things
Speaker 1: in the next ten years? Kin ln I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get through the next ten days, the next ten months,
Speaker 1: and what I think we really have to understand. We
Speaker 1: are rapidly approaching this country's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary,
Speaker 1: two hundred and fiftieth birthday the Declaration of Independence. The
Speaker 1: anniversary they celebrate is July fourth, seventeen seventy six. Well,
Speaker 1: Frederick Douglas asked us, what to the slave is the
Speaker 1: fourth of July? We got to ask the same question,
Speaker 1: what to the enslaved person's descendant is the fourth of July?
Speaker 1: If they are denying us independence, if they are denying
Speaker 1: us our ability to select representatives of our choosing, what
Speaker 1: is this holiday to us?
Speaker 2: Really? What should it be?
Speaker 1: And then the question we have to ask ourselves is
Speaker 1: if this government does not seek to represent us.
Speaker 2: It is not beneficial to us. What is our place
Speaker 2: in it? Really?
Speaker 1: Sure, sure we need people inside, we need outside strategy,
Speaker 1: but we are rapidly being pushed.
Speaker 2: Outside, and you're seeing it so much so.
Speaker 1: That our elders had to go into a hearing in
Speaker 1: the Louisiana State House and Senate to remind people that
Speaker 1: it was a mere sixty one years ago where Bloody
Speaker 1: Sunday happened. It was a mere sixty one years ago
Speaker 1: where Lyndon B. Johnson was forced to sign the Voting
Speaker 1: Rights Act. It was not that long ago. That is
Speaker 1: my parents' lifetime, y'all. Seriously, so let's hear from some
Speaker 1: of our elders. I'm going to bring up the clip
Speaker 1: from miss Leona Tate.
Speaker 7: I need you to understand what it feels like to
Speaker 7: stand here, to have walked through that mob as a child,
Speaker 7: and to now watch elected officials do that same thing
Speaker 7: that the mob was trying to do, just with better
Speaker 7: suits and a parliamentary procedure. I'm a Leona Tate, November fourteen.
Speaker 7: In nineteen sixty, I, along with two other six year
Speaker 7: old girls, walk through an angry mob to integrate mcdonadh
Speaker 7: nineteen elementary school in the Lord ninth Ward of New Orleans.
Speaker 7: I was one of the McDonald three, along with Tessei
Speaker 7: Prevost Gail Etienne. We became part of history because our
Speaker 7: parents believed that we deserved an equal education, that we
Speaker 7: deserved dignity, and that we deserve the future without the
Speaker 7: change of segregation.
Speaker 2: I went through something no child should.
Speaker 7: Go through to desegregate our state, and now sixty five
Speaker 7: years later, I'm watching as law makersttempt to go backwards
Speaker 7: and segregate us once again through disgraceful voting maps. Many
Speaker 7: of the supporters of this action seem to think people
Speaker 7: believe them when they argue this is not about race.
Speaker 7: Let me be clear, none of us believe that race
Speaker 7: and partnership are deeply tied, particularly in Louisiana in the South,
Speaker 7: and I'm not going to give you all a history
Speaker 7: lesson to explain why. So now we move backwards with
Speaker 7: the Supreme Court decision that will go down as one
Speaker 7: of the most racist rulings in our nation's history, a
Speaker 7: decision that tells Black Louisiana's that they representative representation. We
Speaker 7: earned that we watched for that we bled for can
Speaker 7: simply be drawn away by politicians with a.
Speaker 1: Pen, can simply be taken away from by a politician
Speaker 1: with the pen.
Speaker 2: This is a woman that had to endure.
Speaker 1: Near death to integrate a school, and she is reminding
Speaker 1: us us of what it is like to be disenfranchised,
Speaker 1: to be excluded, to be treated as invisible, to be
Speaker 1: the courageous one. We've integrated our political systems to ensure
Speaker 1: that people who think like us and represent our best
Speaker 1: interests are present. I really want us to walk this through.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of folks who are like, I
Speaker 1: don't vote, I don't care. What is redistricting? What is
Speaker 1: jerry mandering? What are all these big words? What does
Speaker 1: it mean to dilute a district? Let me tell you
Speaker 1: what it means to not have people who think like
Speaker 1: you passing laws that represent your best interest. Southern University
Speaker 1: Xavier Dillard, if they get any state based funding, no
Speaker 1: longer have advocates to ensure that they even get a
Speaker 1: modicum of what they would normally get. They're definitely not
Speaker 1: getting on par with other schools that are traditionally white institutions.
Speaker 1: They're not even getting the money that they are supposed
Speaker 1: to get and particularly southern from the state, they are
Speaker 1: inadequately funded.
Speaker 2: What it means to not have.
Speaker 1: People who think like you in higher office is you
Speaker 1: may not get the wages you deserve, You may not
Speaker 1: get the additional government benefits that you deserve. When the
Speaker 1: midterms come and go and they cut SNAP and Medicare
Speaker 1: and Medicaid, you don't get the healthcare or the food
Speaker 1: you deserve it to have access to. And you have
Speaker 1: no vocal champion because let me tell you something, to
Speaker 1: be very clear, they went for Congress. Now the state
Speaker 1: legislators are absolutely next.
Speaker 2: These people have no floor.
Speaker 1: There is no floor, and we're busy fighting them on
Speaker 1: their terms and we don't even have We've not even
Speaker 1: taken the moment, the time to think about what is
Speaker 1: their body?
Speaker 2: How low will they go?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 2: Former First Lady Obama said, when they go low, we
Speaker 2: go high.
Speaker 1: Damn that we got to go meet them in the
Speaker 1: basement to figure out where.
Speaker 2: They are and how low they will go.
Speaker 1: They hold the keys to the power of this infrastructure,
Speaker 1: this system that are hard earned tax paying dollars pay into.
Speaker 2: They hold the keys. We gotta go get the keys.
Speaker 1: There are another number of comments that I'm hopefully we
Speaker 1: can we can put up. There's one that says, don't
Speaker 1: kill me, y'all. But I have read Clarence Thomas's book
Speaker 1: and I kind of understand him. The only thing is
Speaker 1: he has been obviously corrupt for past ten years, but
Speaker 1: his earlier years he was a Democrat. Well he's changed
Speaker 1: and he's gone to Hell in a hand basket. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Jenny, who's also a member of the Tea Party.
Speaker 1: Jenny would be his wife. Next, we want to hear
Speaker 1: from Lieutenant General Russell Honore, who was a tremendous advocate
Speaker 1: fighter on a rescue mission during Hurricane Katrina. Will forever
Speaker 1: be a legend in many of our eyes. But Lieutenant
Speaker 1: General Honore also went to testify before this committee last week.
Speaker 2: Let's hear what he had to say.
Speaker 8: I'm a native of picher B Parish by way of
Speaker 8: Saint Charles Parish and the destra Han Plantation. I will
Speaker 8: not speak to the details of that journey, but because
Speaker 8: of the public schools of Louisiana, I got educated to
Speaker 8: a point in made the Southern University and spent thirty
Speaker 8: seven years in United States Army defending this nation abroad.
Speaker 8: In a home. What this topic brings up stairs memories
Speaker 8: of the past, a pass where I caught a bus
Speaker 8: at six' ten in the morning to go to a
Speaker 8: school Of New, roads and there was a school of
Speaker 8: mob from a. House The Supreme court don't always get it.
Speaker 8: Right because at that time it says separate but equal
Speaker 8: was good. Enough AND i got on that bus and
Speaker 8: passed that school a mile from my house to go
Speaker 8: a way through cane fields and cotton fields and make
Speaker 8: my way To New road to go to school for
Speaker 8: four years because The Supreme court said separate but. Equal
Speaker 8: they don't always get it, right and they didn't get
Speaker 8: it right until the issue was redressed years. Later graduated
Speaker 8: from high school in sixty. Six and The montredis will
Speaker 8: be judged by the content of our, character not the
Speaker 8: color of our. Skin and the state constantly made. Improvements
Speaker 8: AND i was proud to come back to this state
Speaker 8: in two thousand and nine to move back home to volunteer,
Speaker 8: here to be a part of a place to help
Speaker 8: improve the.
Speaker 1: State and, Again Russell honore has done so much For.
Speaker 1: Louisiana but there he's talking about what it's like to
Speaker 1: be bus way past your house to be inconvenienced to go.
Speaker 2: Learn that was not that long.
Speaker 1: Ago he's talking about the importance of understanding that he
Speaker 1: he just graduated from high school in nineteen sixty. Six
Speaker 1: that's a year after The Voting Rights act became. Law
Speaker 1: there's another, comment why do other people think we have
Speaker 1: been voting? Forever The Voting Rights act is around sixty years.
Speaker 1: Old my grandmother couldn't. VOTE i don't know why people think.
Speaker 1: THAT i think they probably believe because it was enshrined
Speaker 1: in The constitution with the Thirty. Amendment but what they
Speaker 1: don't understand is that didn't apply to, women and it
Speaker 1: didn't apply to Many southern states where they had to
Speaker 1: pass literacy.
Speaker 2: Tests they had to.
Speaker 1: Answer how many bubbles were in a bar of, Soap
Speaker 1: they had to count how many balls were in a.
Speaker 1: Jar all of these things right here is the part
Speaker 1: so somebody else is raising we need to realize that
Speaker 1: as a, community we are grounded in someone else's, house
Speaker 1: someone else's house that we, built that we have a
Speaker 1: birthright to have access to because we built.
Speaker 2: It we can get our own.
Speaker 1: Place but also, this the comment went, on but also
Speaker 1: we know that this is, ours AND i think that
Speaker 1: some of what you see is this righteous indignation around
Speaker 1: having to forego something THAT i know we, built and
Speaker 1: that is a real challenge for many of. Us it's,
Speaker 1: like why should we have to do anything when you
Speaker 1: aren't just accommodating. Us you're giving us what we, deserve
Speaker 1: which is, access and it hasn't even been fair.
Speaker 2: ACCESS i don't even know what this. Means we can strike.
Speaker 2: That what does this?
Speaker 1: Mean you can't put this on young people trying to
Speaker 1: do something for.
Speaker 2: THEMSELVES i don't.
Speaker 1: Know black leadership industrial complex is a term where you
Speaker 1: think you're sounding smarter than you. Are with all due,
Speaker 1: respect it's probably some shade that's. Unnecessary we need to
Speaker 1: not be divided in this moment at, all so we
Speaker 1: can move on from.
Speaker 2: THAT i want to go to.
Speaker 1: Our podcast co host who was ON cnn last night
Speaker 1: and he said something THAT i think is really important
Speaker 1: for us to pay attention. To, Also, derek if we
Speaker 1: have it the tweet that accompanied, It i'd love to
Speaker 1: put that tweet up after this clip, rolls because someone
Speaker 1: had something to say that was a little off.
Speaker 2: Base let's roll the clip Of maccari.
Speaker 9: If somebody fell asleep in eighteen ninety six and woke
Speaker 9: up today in twenty twenty, six they would simply, say
Speaker 9: the only difference is Now nigroes have A tv show
Speaker 9: and we wear nice. Suits they swapped out clan hoods
Speaker 9: For brooks brother. Suits and that is the. PROBLEM i.
Speaker 9: Mean PLUS. Cv ferguson was seven to one and it
Speaker 9: gave birth to fifty years Of Jim. Crow what we
Speaker 9: have with this court right, now what we're seeing is
Speaker 9: watching people who have fought and died and bled so
Speaker 9: that we would have access to the ballot, box so
Speaker 9: that we would have access to our voices being heard
Speaker 9: In congress being ripped. Away AND i think that there
Speaker 9: is a casual laughter from people we believe to be
Speaker 9: our friends on the right who were showing us true colors.
Speaker 9: Today because the most sacred or one of the most
Speaker 9: sacred acts you have in The United states Of america
Speaker 9: is the ability to cast a ballot and elect someone
Speaker 9: and send them To, congress the state house or mayorial
Speaker 9: seat that represents your. Interest and now black folks throughout
Speaker 9: The south are being. Silenced AND i don't find that
Speaker 9: to be a laughing.
Speaker 1: Matter the truer words have not ever been spoke spoken
Speaker 1: WHAT i think is important here Is Russell honore, again
Speaker 1: when he was testifying before The Louisiana Senate, committee he,
Speaker 1: said sometimes The Supreme court gets it, wrong and he's
Speaker 1: cited the very same case.
Speaker 2: That butkari just. Did in this.
Speaker 1: Video he talked About plusy versus, ferguson a case that
Speaker 1: happened In. Louisiana, Right so here's what this man. TWEETED
Speaker 1: i don't know Who thomas, is but he says if
Speaker 1: someone felt sleep in eighteen ninety six and woke up,
Speaker 1: today they would see the only difference is now Black
Speaker 1: americans HAVE tv shows and wear nice.
Speaker 2: Suits he has that in.
Speaker 1: Quotes that's not exactly What bacari said he talked To
Speaker 1: he said. Negroes BUT i Appreciate, THOMAS i, guess for
Speaker 1: not saying that they swapped out clan hoods for bricks brothers.
Speaker 1: Suits horribly divisive, rhetoric he. Says From maccari sellers ON cnn.
Speaker 1: Tonight what's fascinating to, Me, Thomas let's leave the tweet.
Speaker 2: Up what's fascinating to me.
Speaker 1: Is it's Not bacari's, rhetoric which actually are facts that.
Speaker 2: Are the problem.
Speaker 1: Here the problem Here, thomas are the actions that The
Speaker 1: Supreme court took to strip away the voting power and
Speaker 1: the voting rights of a, people dialing our rights back multiple.
Speaker 2: Generations that is the real problem.
Speaker 1: Here SO i want to look at something that might
Speaker 1: Help thomas to just understand a little. BIT i want
Speaker 1: us to look at these. Maps so, today already we've
Speaker 1: talked About. Alabama we've talked About, louisiana we've talked About
Speaker 1: we didn't talk About. Tennessee we haven't talked About South
Speaker 1: carolina Or. Mississippi we've not seen proposed maps yet From
Speaker 1: South carolina or, Sorry South carolina Or, mississippi but we
Speaker 1: have Seen. Alabama alabama is saying they want to go
Speaker 1: back to the map that existed. Before that's what The
Speaker 1: Supreme court is. Allowing so the current map is where
Speaker 1: you see here on the, right Where Terry sewell And
Speaker 1: shamari figures have districts that proportionally represent black. Communities the
Speaker 1: proposed map is how things were. Before there's not a
Speaker 1: huge huge difference in how the lines are. Drawn the
Speaker 1: huge difference is the racism that would seek to silence
Speaker 1: the voice of a community In.
Speaker 2: Alabama when we go To.
Speaker 1: Louisiana you see there is a long line down the.
Speaker 2: Middle of the.
Speaker 1: State, well part of the issues around, representation particularly and
Speaker 1: actually not just in the, south, y'all in every community
Speaker 1: is where people can afford to. Live so if we're
Speaker 1: going to hit geographical lines being drawn and how you
Speaker 1: balance that with the representational needs of a, community you
Speaker 1: also have to deal with property. Tax you also have
Speaker 1: to deal with the, costs the costs that are rising every.
Speaker 2: Single day causing communities to be.
Speaker 1: Gentrified those are things that you should be taken into
Speaker 1: consideration when drawing. Maps so, again what we're dealing with
Speaker 1: here is Either Troy carter Or Cleo fields will be
Speaker 1: drawn out of of the district with their, districts one
Speaker 1: of them or worst, case both of.
Speaker 2: Them but The.
Speaker 1: Louisiana State senate And house have Until june first to
Speaker 1: come up with and present these new, maps despite the,
Speaker 1: fact again, y'all that the election Is.
Speaker 2: Saturday this Is.
Speaker 1: Tennessee tennessee just changed their.
Speaker 2: Map what you see here.
Speaker 1: Is is not a lot of.
Speaker 2: Change there are some slight changes being.
Speaker 1: Made we're not seeing like a you, know a singular
Speaker 1: line and a bubble at the, end like A lollipop.
Speaker 1: District you're seeing some some maps here that don't really
Speaker 1: look that.
Speaker 2: Different the difference.
Speaker 1: Is that black people won't be represented in the district as, adopted,
Speaker 1: Right that's.
Speaker 2: The problem that we. Have that is the problem that we.
Speaker 2: Have SO i think that.
Speaker 1: When we consider where we, are we have to think
Speaker 1: about the tools we.
Speaker 7: Have.
Speaker 1: Legislatively there aren't that many tools, left particularly in state
Speaker 1: houses and state sentence in The, south because black people
Speaker 1: aren't in the. Majority democrats aren't in the majority Overwhelmingly
Speaker 1: black people Are, Democrats so being able to change things
Speaker 1: legislatively not really going to. Happen there are procedural things
Speaker 1: they can. Do there are bills that people can. Introduce
Speaker 1: you think about the litigation, approach the legal. Strategy sure
Speaker 1: we can, sue but if you go the way of
Speaker 1: the federal, court you have to get to The Supreme.
Speaker 1: Court The Supreme court is being very clear they're not
Speaker 1: supporting what it takes for black.
Speaker 2: People to be.
Speaker 1: Represented they are supporting black disenfranchisement in The Supreme court
Speaker 1: arguing that it is partisan and either, way the court
Speaker 1: is supposed to be a political so they should be
Speaker 1: doing what's right by the. People by the whole of the,
Speaker 1: people not what's happening right now at. All they are
Speaker 1: doing quite the. Opposite so when we talk about a
Speaker 1: legal strategy that is also very, Challenging i'm not suggesting
Speaker 1: that there shouldn't be a legal record that we should
Speaker 1: not force The Supreme court to rely on what it
Speaker 1: is said In milligan Around, alabama to rely on what
Speaker 1: it's said and past precedent in some of these cases
Speaker 1: Before shelby Versus, holder right around a representational needs around
Speaker 1: how we interpret The Voting Rights. Act not suggesting we don't,
Speaker 1: push But i'm saying that those, options it's starting to
Speaker 1: look like we're foreclosing on those options and they're. Limited
Speaker 1: so we're talking about now where The south used to
Speaker 1: go to get protection was the federal. Government the federal
Speaker 1: government is also compromised One, democrats and therefore black people
Speaker 1: are not the majority in The, house are not the
Speaker 1: majority in The.
Speaker 2: Senate we have The trump.
Speaker 1: Administration you cannot go to The department Of justice that
Speaker 1: is now working over time for white men in The
Speaker 1: Civil Rights division to go get. Protection they're not going
Speaker 1: to protect. Us so where we normally turn to in
Speaker 1: The south was to THE. Fed the federal governments for
Speaker 1: federal government for, protection can't go.
Speaker 2: There so we're out on the.
Speaker 1: Law we're out on, Legislation we're out on the federal
Speaker 1: the federal government and any protections. There what do we have?
Speaker 1: Left what do we have left? There you can keeping
Speaker 1: these comments, up but what do we have? Left our?
Speaker 1: Money we have our. Money the last thing that we
Speaker 1: can hold on to is an economic, boycott economic buy,
Speaker 1: ins supporting our, businesses but protesting and punishing those who
Speaker 1: aren't doing right by.
Speaker 2: Us there are.
Speaker 1: Multi national corporations based In, tennessee based In, mississippi based
Speaker 1: In South, carolina based In, alabama based In. Texas because
Speaker 1: we skipped Over. Texas texas was the case. Study based In,
Speaker 1: missouri skipped Over, missouri skipped Over. Indiana there are places
Speaker 1: that we can go to say we are going to
Speaker 1: withhold our dollar because you have withheld our, respect so you.
Speaker 2: Don't get our. Money you don't get our.
Speaker 1: Money we will withhold our, dollar support our, own build
Speaker 1: infrastructure around our own because you don't respect.
Speaker 2: It you haven't said a mumbling. Word here's a.
Speaker 1: Comment why are we fighting tooth and nail to live
Speaker 1: in a home where we have not been welcomed for.
Speaker 1: Centuries at this, POINT i don't want access to their
Speaker 1: house In. Hell i'm building my own home In. Salvation,
Speaker 1: Well i'd love to know where your home. Is very
Speaker 1: curious about. That but, we you, know, people, again we're
Speaker 1: going for what we. Know there's a system that we
Speaker 1: have poured our, life, sweat blood and tears into and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to release.
Speaker 2: That it just.
Speaker 1: Is doesn't mean that we shouldn't be actively building. Something
Speaker 1: we should be actively building, something but we stay.
Speaker 2: Talking about what we should be, doing AND i have
Speaker 2: yet to see a.
Speaker 1: Plan where's the? Plan where's the. Plan i'm good with rapid.
Speaker 1: RESPONSE i know my skill, set i know What i'm gifted.
Speaker 1: At i'm down and was raised with supporting black businesses
Speaker 1: not my issue at. All down for the. Cause but
Speaker 1: y'all who want to build your other, thing let's build.
Speaker 1: It how you're gonna get veterans? Benefits what's your plan
Speaker 1: to make sure people can? Eat where are your kids
Speaker 1: going to?
Speaker 2: School?
Speaker 1: Right you want to live in a house? Here you
Speaker 1: want to stay? Here where are you paying your property?
Speaker 1: Taxes when The feds come for their money for taxes
Speaker 1: around tax return?
Speaker 2: Time Where are you gonna send them?
Speaker 1: Money are you paying into a whole separate system as?
Speaker 1: Well are you trying to go to another part of the.
Speaker 1: World what is the real? PLAN i hear us, talking
Speaker 1: BUT i don't know if we're really saying. Much, YES
Speaker 1: i just started talking about. That sean the beekeeper, says, Afternoon,
Speaker 1: angela can you elaborate a bit on what you would
Speaker 1: like to see us black folks to? COMBAT i think
Speaker 1: do him think of means to say black folks do
Speaker 1: to combat what's?
Speaker 2: Happening? Now we have to withhold our.
Speaker 1: Dollar we've got to identify businesses in each of these
Speaker 1: states who have been silent or worse, supportive and in
Speaker 1: their silence or their, support because the silence is, complicity
Speaker 1: that is indirect. Support in their silence or their, support
Speaker 1: they have to respect. Us if they don't respect, us
Speaker 1: we withhold our. Money it is time out for us to,
Speaker 1: say what is my little shopping trip going to?
Speaker 2: Do what is my little oil change gonna? Do what
Speaker 2: is my.
Speaker 1: Little purchase of said car gonna? Do it does a
Speaker 1: lot when we all stick. Together AND i also think
Speaker 1: we have to talk about our kids going to these
Speaker 1: schools to earn them all of this. Money and by the,
Speaker 1: way nil is a new, thing so they're just now
Speaker 1: starting to get paid for. That but they're earning these
Speaker 1: schools all this. Money where are the schools on these?
Speaker 1: Things school leadership hasn't said word the First are are
Speaker 1: kids safe going into The Jim Crow south to play
Speaker 1: sports at your institution where you no longer want to
Speaker 1: teach them In African american studies or give them books
Speaker 1: that they should read to understand more about themselves in their.
Speaker 1: History are our kids safe in The? CONFEDERACY i don't
Speaker 1: know that they. ARE i would argue they are. Not
Speaker 1: And i'm gonna tell y'all this not so controversial. Opinion
Speaker 1: if this was an Anti semitic issue and there Were
Speaker 1: jewish children on their way to these schools that have
Speaker 1: been silent on something anti, semitic what do you think
Speaker 1: would happen with that? Community they would come, together they
Speaker 1: would stand. Together those kids would not be in those.
Speaker 1: Schools what will it take for us to get? There
Speaker 1: to give kids an alternative to push them towards schools
Speaker 1: in The, northwest in The, northeast in the. Midwest midwest
Speaker 1: is problematic a little bit. Too we just talked About
Speaker 1: Indiana missouri also getting trying to get rid of Seats
Speaker 1: Congressman Cleaver's Andre Carsons Congressman Andre carson's we got some
Speaker 1: work to. Do but in the, meantime we gotta go
Speaker 1: because this has gone a little long. Today BUT i
Speaker 1: do want y'all thinking about what is next for our.
Speaker 1: PEOPLE i do want y'all thinking about what a strategic
Speaker 1: sustained boycott looks. LIKE i do want you to understand
Speaker 1: that it can, smart start, small start, small and. Grow
Speaker 1: but what we can't do is keep looking at this
Speaker 1: saying it's a shame and waiting for that shame to
Speaker 1: knock on your front. Door once it knocks on your front,
Speaker 1: door it's too. Late welcome, home. Y'all Native lampard is
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