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Speaker 1: Native Lampard is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. Okay, everyone, welcome home.

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Speaker 1: It's getting harder to say welcome home in an environment

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Speaker 1: that is treating us like we are on foreign territory.

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Speaker 1: Completely shocked by the rapid pace, not necessarily the rulings,

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Speaker 1: but the rapid pace in which we are seeing the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court undo voting rights, undo the protections of civil

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Speaker 1: and human rights in this country. We just got news,

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Speaker 1: of course, last night that in Wes Allen, Alabama Secretary

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Speaker 1: of State versus Marcus Castor, that they have agreed the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court has allowed Alabama to proceed with the original

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Speaker 1: maps before there was a court order redrawing districts to

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Speaker 1: ensure that Terry School Congress from Terry School and Shamari Figures,

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Speaker 1: who is a new member of Congress serving his first term,

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Speaker 1: would both be able to have seats in Alabama, a

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Speaker 1: place that has a huge black population. Well, the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court just yesterday says, you know what, We're going to

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Speaker 1: go back to how things were. We're going to go

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Speaker 1: back to the original maps before the court order and

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Speaker 1: we are going to do that, despite the fact, despite

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Speaker 1: the fact that on Tuesday, May nineteenth, an election for

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Speaker 1: which ballots are already printed, that have Terry Sewle's name

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Speaker 1: on them, that have SCHAMAI Figure's name on them, Despite

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Speaker 1: the fact that people have already early voted, Despite the

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Speaker 1: fact that folks who received absentee ballots, despite the fact

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Speaker 1: that military officials who are overseas have their ballots, have

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Speaker 1: probably already cast their ballots, have probably already mailed in

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Speaker 1: their ballots right have voted. What this country is doing

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Speaker 1: to voting is something that is an abomination to us.

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Speaker 1: All our ancestors are rolling over in their graves, and yes,

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Speaker 1: white folks, even yours, even yours. As you seek to

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Speaker 1: protect and defend democracy, as you fight for liberty and

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Speaker 1: justice for all, particularly in this hour, your ancestors too

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Speaker 1: have to be rolling over in their grapes. Unless they

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Speaker 1: were the Confederates, then maybe they celebrate. Maybe they're celebrating.

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Speaker 1: But speaking of the Confederates, I also want to turn

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Speaker 1: our attention to Louisiana. What is important to know in

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Speaker 1: this moment is that Memphis no longer has a majority

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Speaker 1: black district. There was one majority minority district in all

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Speaker 1: of Tennessee. We can get to the demographics of these states. Surely,

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Speaker 1: maybe somebody on our team can pull them up. What's

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Speaker 1: the black population in Tennessee? What is it in South Carolina?

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Speaker 1: What is it in Louisiana? What is it in Mississippi?

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Speaker 1: What is it in Alabama? We should know these things.

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Speaker 1: But the only black district in all of Tennessee. The

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Speaker 1: state legislature last week acted in a line met with

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Speaker 1: what the Supreme Court ruled in Louisiana versus Calais. Calais,

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Speaker 1: by the way, was an insurrectionist who was on Capitol

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Speaker 1: Hill on January sixth. Being a terrorist has a Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court decision in his name. Now where they have decided

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Speaker 1: that they would side with the Confederates, where they would

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Speaker 1: side with white nationalists, where they would side with white supremacists,

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Speaker 1: and strip us of our voting power, diluting our voices

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Speaker 1: in congressional races.

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Speaker 2: So here we have it.

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Speaker 1: Louisiana said, hold my beer. Their election is on Saturday. Alabama,

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Speaker 1: as I said, is on Tuesday. But Louisiana's election is Saturday.

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Speaker 1: It is this coming Saturday again, just like Alabama ballots

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Speaker 1: have gone out. These members of Congress, Troy Carter, Cleo Fields,

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Speaker 1: Cleo Fields, who fought for decades to ensure that Baton

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Speaker 1: Rouge would have a black voice in Congress, hasn't in

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Speaker 1: there long at all.

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Speaker 2: Seed is now stripped.

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Speaker 1: Most likely, they have until June first in Louisiana to

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Speaker 1: come up with a congressional map that makes sense, long

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Speaker 1: after this Saturday primary, Long after these politicians who say

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Speaker 1: they're protected democracy and clutching their pearls at voter fraud

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Speaker 1: that does not freaking exist, are creating the environment for

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Speaker 1: electoral dysfunction, for voter suppression, and for people to have

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Speaker 1: to have their voices counted not once, but twice and

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Speaker 1: then a third time if you count the general election.

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Speaker 1: So in Louisiana, this is what Governor Landry had to

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Speaker 1: say when he appeared on CBS sixty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Let's listen.

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Speaker 3: In the United States, we get equal rights, no one

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Speaker 3: gets extra rights.

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Speaker 4: This past Tuesday, we went to Baton Rouge and met

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Speaker 4: Governor Jeff Landry at the governor's mansion, a close ally

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Speaker 4: of President Trump. He dominates louisianaics. The colorful conservative Cajun

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Speaker 4: was the state's Attorney General before winning the top job

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: You cannot say that we are all created equal, and

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Speaker 3: at states must treat everyone equal on at a law

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Speaker 3: and then allow a law to sort people based upon race.

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Speaker 4: Following the Supreme Court decision, Governor Landry declared a state

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Speaker 4: of emergency and abruptly suspended Congressional House primaries right as

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Speaker 4: voting was starting, ordering a do over at a future date,

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Speaker 4: leaving voters dazed and confused.

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Speaker 5: You declared a state of emergency. What exactly is the emergency?

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Speaker 3: We've got? The highest court at Alliance says the map

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Speaker 3: that you have is unconstitutional, So we don't have a

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Speaker 3: map under which our voters can vote on.

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Speaker 5: This country has held elections during the Civil War, during

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Speaker 5: two World Wars, elections still went on.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have an election, and we're actually gonna have

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Speaker 3: an election or election day.

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Speaker 5: But voting was already happening as we sit here right now.

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Speaker 5: More than forty five thousand ballots have been returned.

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Speaker 2: What happens to those voters?

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Speaker 3: Ballots are discarded and those voters will vote again in November.

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Speaker 5: You say that like it's not a big deal.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's it's not a big deal. It's not my fault.

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Speaker 3: If anybody has agrievance, take it to the United States

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: It's not my fault.

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Speaker 1: But what is your fault, Governor Landry, is the fact

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Speaker 1: that you called a state of an emergency to suspend

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Speaker 1: an election or at least part of an election, when

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Speaker 1: there is no emergency. You said they are going to

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Speaker 1: vote twice. They're actually not going to vote twice because

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Speaker 1: you have to have another election where they vote for

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Speaker 1: their representative of not choice but force. Because they're representatives

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Speaker 1: of choice are Cleo Fhiells and Troy Carter, And now

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Speaker 1: one of them will be out of a seat. So

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Speaker 1: it actually is absolutely your fault. You do have the

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Speaker 1: ability to do something. And the people of Louisiana are

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Speaker 1: speaking back. They're saying, you're saying it's not your fault. Well,

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Speaker 1: we say recall. And so what has to happen now

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Speaker 1: is there has to be consequences for when people exact

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Speaker 1: harm on the black community.

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Speaker 2: You are diluting votes.

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Speaker 1: You are siding with white supremacists with Confederate mentality to

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Speaker 1: strip us of our voting power.

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Speaker 2: And so I think that is what's important. Thank you all.

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of your comments. Somebody said, I

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Speaker 1: love angry Angela. I am so angry, but really it

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Speaker 1: is deep grief because I don't believe that we deserve

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Speaker 1: to go backwards in this moment. There is someone who's

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Speaker 1: been fighting on the Senate Government Affairs Committee in Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: He is the nephew of Congressman Troy Carter.

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Speaker 1: His name is Senator Gary Carter, and I want you

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Speaker 1: all to hear the very righteous protest he engaged in

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Speaker 1: in a committee hearing where he asked a very simple question.

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Speaker 1: He said, the Secretary of State is always here for

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Speaker 1: a hearing. Where are you today, sir? Let's roll the click.

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Speaker 6: The reason why we're here today is because there's a

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Speaker 6: suspension of ongoing congressional elections, and so I guess before

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Speaker 6: we start the agenda, I like to hear from the

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Speaker 6: Secretary of State or someone from the Secretary of State's office.

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Speaker 3: Nobody is here from the Secretary of State's office.

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Speaker 6: Well as chair of the committee. I have some very

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Speaker 6: important questions that I would like to be addressed. We

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Speaker 6: have an ongoing election for Congress, and at the time,

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Speaker 6: the Secretary of State issued a statement declaring an emergency.

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Speaker 6: I would like to know how many people have requested

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Speaker 6: early ballots. Do you have that information, mister chairman? How

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Speaker 6: many people have requested Earlsenary?

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Speaker 1: I have not, But have you reached out to the

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Speaker 1: Secretary of State before this meeting?

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Speaker 6: I can't recall a meeting of the Senate Government and

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Speaker 6: was my expectation that the Secretary of State would be

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Speaker 6: in this committee meeting to know, quite honestly, how many

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Speaker 6: and what happened to those ballots. Are those ballots being

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Speaker 6: preserved somewhere? Are those ballots being counted? Can you tell me?

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Speaker 6: Can you tell me, mister chairman, how many people had

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Speaker 6: voted at the time the governor has suspended Louisiana Louisiana's

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Speaker 7: No, I cannot.

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Speaker 6: But there's already an ongoing election regarding congressional maps that

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Speaker 6: are in place, and my simple question is what's the

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Speaker 6: status of those votes that's already been cast. Are those

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Speaker 6: to be discarded?

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Speaker 2: Simple question.

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Speaker 5: I can't answer that question.

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Speaker 6: My first question was about the votes that were already

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Speaker 5: Didn't take a recess right now?

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Speaker 6: Why I only as like two questions, mister chairman, as

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Speaker 6: I was saying before our break, I want to know

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Speaker 1: Well, and we can continue to play this another time.

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Speaker 1: Dere we can go ahead, Thank you. I'll get your attention.

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Speaker 1: I want people to see that clip. Will make sure

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Speaker 1: that we put that up on social again. Gary Carter

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Speaker 1: was holding the line. He was pushing for the Secretary

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Speaker 1: cast their ballots. It is so important that legal advocates

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Speaker 1: Of course, there are people like Clarence Thomas on the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court who would argue, well, they're voting on something

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Speaker 1: that's unconstitutional anyway. On what basis, sir, On what basis

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Speaker 1: there is representation, There is taxation.

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Speaker 2: Included in the constitution.

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Speaker 1: There was nothing that allowed for you all to jerry

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Speaker 1: by disenfranchise black voters. Now you could say, Clarence, I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to go back to win black people, particularly in

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Speaker 2: You can do that.

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Speaker 1: You can do that, but you're gonna burn in hot,

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Speaker 1: fiery hell. You will burn in hot, fiery hell for that,

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Speaker 1: because what you're doing is disenfranchising people of your same hue.

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Speaker 2: Sir, What is the justification for that?

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Speaker 1: The Constitution should never be something that is interpreted word

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Speaker 1: for word without the idea that black people would one

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Speaker 1: day be liberated. Now, Clarence Thomas is what they call

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Speaker 1: from constitutional law scholars a strict constructionist. That means he

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Speaker 1: wants it to be interpreted word for word, letter for letter,

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Speaker 1: whatever the framers meant, whatever they wrote. He wants to

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Speaker 1: interpret it in that very strict way. The problem is,

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Speaker 1: Clarence's ass wouldn't have been on the bench. He would

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Speaker 1: not have been on the bench if he interpreted it

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Speaker 1: word for word. So what he does is he tries

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Speaker 1: to apply to us one way and he gives himself

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Speaker 1: out another way. We're not here for that, but I

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Speaker 1: is this question from Ken Lawn. I hope I say

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Speaker 1: your name right, Jones, Thank you so much, he says,

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Speaker 1: Sis ANGELA worst case scenario, Where do you see things

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Speaker 1: in the next ten years? Kin ln I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: It is not beneficial to us. What is our place

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Speaker 2: This is a woman that had to endure.

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Speaker 1: jerry mandering? What are all these big words? What does

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Speaker 1: They're not even getting the money that they are supposed

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Speaker 2: What it means to not have.

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Speaker 1: People who think like you in higher office is you

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Speaker 1: legislators are absolutely next.

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Speaker 2: These people have no floor.

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Speaker 1: There is no floor, and we're busy fighting them on

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Speaker 2: How low will they go?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 2: Former First Lady Obama said, when they go low, we

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Speaker 1: Damn that we got to go meet them in the

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Speaker 2: They are and how low they will go.

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Speaker 1: They hold the keys to the power of this infrastructure,

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Speaker 2: They hold the keys. We gotta go get the keys.

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Speaker 1: There are another number of comments that I'm hopefully we

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Speaker 1: from Lieutenant General Russell Honore, who was a tremendous advocate

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Speaker 2: Let's hear what he had to say.

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Speaker 8: I'm a native of picher B Parish by way of

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Speaker 8: In a home. What this topic brings up stairs memories

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Speaker 8: Right because at that time it says separate but equal

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Speaker 8: four years because The Supreme court said separate but. Equal

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Speaker 1: State and, Again Russell honore has done so much For.

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Speaker 2: Learn that was not that long.

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Speaker 1: Ago he's talking about the importance of understanding that he

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Speaker 1: that's a year after The Voting Rights act became. Law

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Speaker 1: there's another, comment why do other people think we have

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Speaker 1: THAT i think they probably believe because it was enshrined

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Speaker 2: Tests they had to.

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Speaker 1: Answer how many bubbles were in a bar of, Soap

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Speaker 2: It we can get our own.

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Speaker 1: that is a real challenge for many of. Us it's,

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Speaker 1: like why should we have to do anything when you

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Speaker 2: ACCESS i don't even know what this. Means we can strike.

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Speaker 1: Mean you can't put this on young people trying to

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Speaker 2: THEMSELVES i don't.

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Speaker 1: Know black leadership industrial complex is a term where you

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Speaker 2: THAT i want to go to.

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Speaker 1: Our podcast co host who was ON cnn last night

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Speaker 1: for us to pay attention. To, Also, derek if we

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Speaker 2: Base let's roll the clip Of maccari.

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Speaker 9: If somebody fell asleep in eighteen ninety six and woke

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Speaker 9: the only difference is Now nigroes have A tv show

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Speaker 9: that we would have access to our voices being heard

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Speaker 9: In congress being ripped. Away AND i think that there

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Speaker 9: is a casual laughter from people we believe to be

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Speaker 9: Today because the most sacred or one of the most

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Speaker 9: is the ability to cast a ballot and elect someone

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Speaker 9: and send them To, congress the state house or mayorial

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Speaker 9: seat that represents your. Interest and now black folks throughout

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Speaker 1: Matter the truer words have not ever been spoke spoken

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Speaker 1: WHAT i think is important here Is Russell honore, again

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Speaker 1: when he was testifying before The Louisiana Senate, committee he,

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Speaker 1: happened In. Louisiana, Right so here's what this man. TWEETED

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Speaker 1: i don't know Who thomas, is but he says if

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Speaker 1: someone felt sleep in eighteen ninety six and woke up,

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Speaker 1: today they would see the only difference is now Black

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Speaker 1: americans HAVE tv shows and wear nice.

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Speaker 2: Suits he has that in.

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Speaker 1: Quotes that's not exactly What bacari said he talked To

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00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: he said. Negroes BUT i Appreciate, THOMAS i, guess for

449
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Speaker 1: not saying that they swapped out clan hoods for bricks brothers.

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Speaker 1: Suits horribly divisive, rhetoric he. Says From maccari sellers ON cnn.

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Speaker 1: Tonight what's fascinating to, Me, Thomas let's leave the tweet.

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Speaker 2: Up what's fascinating to me.

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Speaker 1: Is it's Not bacari's, rhetoric which actually are facts that.

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Speaker 2: Are the problem.

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Speaker 1: Here the problem Here, thomas are the actions that The

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Speaker 1: Supreme court took to strip away the voting power and

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Speaker 1: the voting rights of a, people dialing our rights back multiple.

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Speaker 2: Generations that is the real problem.

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Speaker 1: Here SO i want to look at something that might

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Speaker 1: Help thomas to just understand a little. BIT i want

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Speaker 1: us to look at these. Maps so, today already we've

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Speaker 1: talked About. Alabama we've talked About, louisiana we've talked About

463
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Speaker 1: we didn't talk About. Tennessee we haven't talked About South

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Speaker 1: carolina Or. Mississippi we've not seen proposed maps yet From

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Speaker 1: South carolina or, Sorry South carolina Or, mississippi but we

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00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: have Seen. Alabama alabama is saying they want to go

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Speaker 1: back to the map that existed. Before that's what The

468
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: Supreme court is. Allowing so the current map is where

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Speaker 1: you see here on the, right Where Terry sewell And

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Speaker 1: shamari figures have districts that proportionally represent black. Communities the

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Speaker 1: proposed map is how things were. Before there's not a

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Speaker 1: huge huge difference in how the lines are. Drawn the

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00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: huge difference is the racism that would seek to silence

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Speaker 1: the voice of a community In.

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00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: Alabama when we go To.

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00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: Louisiana you see there is a long line down the.

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00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 2: Middle of the.

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00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: State, well part of the issues around, representation particularly and

479
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: actually not just in the, south, y'all in every community

480
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: is where people can afford to. Live so if we're

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00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: going to hit geographical lines being drawn and how you

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00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: balance that with the representational needs of a, community you

483
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 1: also have to deal with property. Tax you also have

484
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: to deal with the, costs the costs that are rising every.

485
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 2: Single day causing communities to be.

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Speaker 1: Gentrified those are things that you should be taken into

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Speaker 1: consideration when drawing. Maps so, again what we're dealing with

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00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: here is Either Troy carter Or Cleo fields will be

489
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: drawn out of of the district with their, districts one

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00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: of them or worst, case both of.

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00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: Them but The.

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00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: Louisiana State senate And house have Until june first to

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00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: come up with and present these new, maps despite the,

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00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: fact again, y'all that the election Is.

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Speaker 2: Saturday this Is.

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Speaker 1: Tennessee tennessee just changed their.

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Speaker 2: Map what you see here.

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Speaker 1: Is is not a lot of.

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00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: Change there are some slight changes being.

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00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: Made we're not seeing like a you, know a singular

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00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: line and a bubble at the, end like A lollipop.

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00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: District you're seeing some some maps here that don't really

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Speaker 1: look that.

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00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: Different the difference.

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00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: Is that black people won't be represented in the district as, adopted,

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00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: Right that's.

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Speaker 2: The problem that we. Have that is the problem that we.

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00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: Have SO i think that.

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Speaker 1: When we consider where we, are we have to think

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00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: about the tools we.

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00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 7: Have.

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00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: Legislatively there aren't that many tools, left particularly in state

513
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: houses and state sentence in The, south because black people

514
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: aren't in the. Majority democrats aren't in the majority Overwhelmingly

515
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: black people Are, Democrats so being able to change things

516
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: legislatively not really going to. Happen there are procedural things

517
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: they can. Do there are bills that people can. Introduce

518
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: you think about the litigation, approach the legal. Strategy sure

519
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: we can, sue but if you go the way of

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00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: the federal, court you have to get to The Supreme.

521
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: Court The Supreme court is being very clear they're not

522
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: supporting what it takes for black.

523
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: People to be.

524
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: Represented they are supporting black disenfranchisement in The Supreme court

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00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: arguing that it is partisan and either, way the court

526
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: is supposed to be a political so they should be

527
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: doing what's right by the. People by the whole of the,

528
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: people not what's happening right now at. All they are

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00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: doing quite the. Opposite so when we talk about a

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00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: legal strategy that is also very, Challenging i'm not suggesting

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Speaker 1: that there shouldn't be a legal record that we should

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00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: not force The Supreme court to rely on what it

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Speaker 1: is said In milligan Around, alabama to rely on what

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00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: it's said and past precedent in some of these cases

535
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: Before shelby Versus, holder right around a representational needs around

536
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: how we interpret The Voting Rights. Act not suggesting we don't,

537
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: push But i'm saying that those, options it's starting to

538
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: look like we're foreclosing on those options and they're. Limited

539
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: so we're talking about now where The south used to

540
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: go to get protection was the federal. Government the federal

541
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: government is also compromised One, democrats and therefore black people

542
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: are not the majority in The, house are not the

543
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: majority in The.

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00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: Senate we have The trump.

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00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: Administration you cannot go to The department Of justice that

546
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: is now working over time for white men in The

547
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: Civil Rights division to go get. Protection they're not going

548
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: to protect. Us so where we normally turn to in

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00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: The south was to THE. Fed the federal governments for

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00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: federal government for, protection can't go.

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00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: There so we're out on the.

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00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: Law we're out on, Legislation we're out on the federal

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00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: the federal government and any protections. There what do we have?

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00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: Left what do we have left? There you can keeping

555
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: these comments, up but what do we have? Left our?

556
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: Money we have our. Money the last thing that we

557
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: can hold on to is an economic, boycott economic buy,

558
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: ins supporting our, businesses but protesting and punishing those who

559
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: aren't doing right by.

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00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: Us there are.

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00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: Multi national corporations based In, tennessee based In, mississippi based

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00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: In South, carolina based In, alabama based In. Texas because

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00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: we skipped Over. Texas texas was the case. Study based In,

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00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: missouri skipped Over, missouri skipped Over. Indiana there are places

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00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: that we can go to say we are going to

566
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: withhold our dollar because you have withheld our, respect so you.

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00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: Don't get our. Money you don't get our.

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00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: Money we will withhold our, dollar support our, own build

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00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: infrastructure around our own because you don't respect.

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00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: It you haven't said a mumbling. Word here's a.

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00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: Comment why are we fighting tooth and nail to live

572
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: in a home where we have not been welcomed for.

573
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: Centuries at this, POINT i don't want access to their

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00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: house In. Hell i'm building my own home In. Salvation,

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00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: Well i'd love to know where your home. Is very

576
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: curious about. That but, we you, know, people, again we're

577
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: going for what we. Know there's a system that we

578
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: have poured our, life, sweat blood and tears into and

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00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to release.

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00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: That it just.

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00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: Is doesn't mean that we shouldn't be actively building. Something

582
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: we should be actively building, something but we stay.

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00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: Talking about what we should be, doing AND i have

584
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: yet to see a.

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00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: Plan where's the? Plan where's the. Plan i'm good with rapid.

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00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: RESPONSE i know my skill, set i know What i'm gifted.

587
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: At i'm down and was raised with supporting black businesses

588
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: not my issue at. All down for the. Cause but

589
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: y'all who want to build your other, thing let's build.

590
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: It how you're gonna get veterans? Benefits what's your plan

591
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: to make sure people can? Eat where are your kids

592
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: going to?

593
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: School?

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00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: Right you want to live in a house? Here you

595
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: want to stay? Here where are you paying your property?

596
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: Taxes when The feds come for their money for taxes

597
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: around tax return?

598
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: Time Where are you gonna send them?

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00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: Money are you paying into a whole separate system as?

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00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: Well are you trying to go to another part of the.

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00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: World what is the real? PLAN i hear us, talking

602
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: BUT i don't know if we're really saying. Much, YES

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00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: i just started talking about. That sean the beekeeper, says, Afternoon,

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00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: angela can you elaborate a bit on what you would

605
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: like to see us black folks to? COMBAT i think

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00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: do him think of means to say black folks do

607
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: to combat what's?

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00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 2: Happening? Now we have to withhold our.

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00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: Dollar we've got to identify businesses in each of these

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00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: states who have been silent or worse, supportive and in

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00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: their silence or their, support because the silence is, complicity

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00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: that is indirect. Support in their silence or their, support

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00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: they have to respect. Us if they don't respect, us

614
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: we withhold our. Money it is time out for us to,

615
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: say what is my little shopping trip going to?

616
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: Do what is my little oil change gonna? Do what

617
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: is my.

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00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: Little purchase of said car gonna? Do it does a

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Speaker 1: lot when we all stick. Together AND i also think

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00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: we have to talk about our kids going to these

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00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: schools to earn them all of this. Money and by the,

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00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: way nil is a new, thing so they're just now

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00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: starting to get paid for. That but they're earning these

624
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: schools all this. Money where are the schools on these?

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00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: Things school leadership hasn't said word the First are are

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00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: kids safe going into The Jim Crow south to play

627
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: sports at your institution where you no longer want to

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00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: teach them In African american studies or give them books

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00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: that they should read to understand more about themselves in their.

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00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: History are our kids safe in The? CONFEDERACY i don't

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00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: know that they. ARE i would argue they are. Not

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00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: And i'm gonna tell y'all this not so controversial. Opinion

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00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: if this was an Anti semitic issue and there Were

634
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: jewish children on their way to these schools that have

635
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: been silent on something anti, semitic what do you think

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00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: would happen with that? Community they would come, together they

637
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: would stand. Together those kids would not be in those.

638
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: Schools what will it take for us to get? There

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00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: to give kids an alternative to push them towards schools

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00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: in The, northwest in The, northeast in the. Midwest midwest

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00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: is problematic a little bit. Too we just talked About

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00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: Indiana missouri also getting trying to get rid of Seats

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00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: Congressman Cleaver's Andre Carsons Congressman Andre carson's we got some

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00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: work to. Do but in the, meantime we gotta go

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00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: because this has gone a little long. Today BUT i

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00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: do want y'all thinking about what is next for our.

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00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: PEOPLE i do want y'all thinking about what a strategic

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00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: sustained boycott looks. LIKE i do want you to understand

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00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 1: that it can, smart start, small start, small and. Grow

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00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: but what we can't do is keep looking at this

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00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: saying it's a shame and waiting for that shame to

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00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: knock on your front. Door once it knocks on your front,

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00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: door it's too. Late welcome, home. Y'all Native lampard is

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