1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and this is the 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast, the Last Call edition. As we get 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: you set for the last home game of the year, 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: featuring two teams that currently find themselves in last place 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: to five and eight Bengals and the three and ten 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders coming up, My broadcast partner Dave Lapham joins 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: me to discuss a wide variety of topics, ranging from 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: playing time at last for offensive lineman Christian Westerman to 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: a great lap story about legendary former Raiders owner Al Davis. 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: After hearing from lap we'll hear from Carlos Dunn lap 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: on being nominated for one of the NFL's most prestigious honors. 12 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: And this week's Know the Faux segment, we'll get the 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: lowdown on John Gruden's Raiders from former Pro Bowl offensive 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: lineman Lincoln Kennedy, who currently calls Oakland's games on the 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: radio with Brent Musburger, still going strong at the age 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: of seventy nine. All of that is straight ahead, but first, 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: here's a quick reminder that you can have the latest 18 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: edition of this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, 19 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher or pod Bean. 20 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: It's the greatest inventions since Christmas cards. You heard me. 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: I am a big fan of Christmas cards. Love seeing 22 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: the family photos. I love hearing from friends that I 23 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: haven't seen in years. However, I am not a big 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: fan of the bragging Christmas letter. Well, we can agree 25 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: that it's great that your kids are crushing it at 26 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: Ivy League schools. We don't need three mimiographed pages about 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: it in your Christmas card. Now, let's get to football. 28 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: The Bengals will try to snap their five game losing 29 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: streak this Sunday against an Oakland team that has been 30 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: awful under the one hundred million dollar man John Gruden. 31 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: The Raiders share the worst record in the NFL with 32 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: San Francisco and Arizona, and Oakland has been outscored by 33 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: one hundred forty four points. The Cardinals are the only 34 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: team that's been outscored by more, with a deficit of 35 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: one forty nine. The Bengals have been outscored by ninety 36 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: but last week they pushed one of the best teams 37 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: in the league to the brink, losing a nail bier 38 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: to the Chargers in Los Angeles. The Bengals defense, last 39 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: in the league in points allowed, last in the league 40 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: in yards allowed, was excellent over the final three quarters 41 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: of that game. And that's where I begin my conversation 42 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: with broadcast partner Dave lappham Lapp. In last week's game 43 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: against the Chargers, LA scored touchdowns on its first two 44 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: drives and it looked like it was going to be 45 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: another disaster like the Chiefs or Saints games. But after that, 46 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: the Chargers had eight possessions without scoring a touchdown, including 47 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: two drives that started in Cincinnati territory. What changed and 48 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: is its significant going forward? I think it is Dan. 49 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: On the first two drives, the Bengals gave up ten 50 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: first downs, four first downs on the first drive, six 51 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: first downs in the second drive. The rest of the 52 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: game those eight drives seven first downs total, And they 53 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: started playing more man in the in the secondary, and 54 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: they've drafted guys out of college William Jackson, Drake Kerpatrick, 55 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: long long arms that like to press, play, bump and run, 56 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: get their hands on people. Darkis Denard same thing at 57 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: Michigan State. You know they feel comfortable doing that. And 58 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 1: I think that the coverage coverage was much better as 59 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: a result, rivers has to hold the ball a little longer, 60 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: pass rush starts getting there. Now the pass rushers start 61 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: to get more confidence, they start turning up another notch 62 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the gloves fit in their hand. 63 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: You know, good coverage, better sack possibility, better pressure, more 64 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: interception possibility. I mean it all is, you know, conjoined, 65 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: there's no question about it, and it was disjointed, and 66 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: now it looks it looks like it's starting to Meldon 67 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: Mesh a little bit more. I hope that through the 68 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: rest of the season they play more man coverage because 69 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: they look pretty darn good. And I'm not saying that 70 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: the Chargers had multiple receivers that could really beat up 71 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: with route running Keenan Allen can and tell you what, 72 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: Jackson did a good job on him. So I'm anxious 73 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: to see those guys go out and play man coverage 74 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: and say I got you and I'm eliminating you for 75 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: the rest of the season, and watch watch the increase 76 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: in pressure on the quarterback lab For much of our 77 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: broadcast last Sunday, you were raving about the interior offensive 78 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: line play a belly price, Alex Redman and Christian Westerman. 79 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: Did the Bengals have something there and it's had time 80 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: to see exactly what Westerman can do. Yeah, Westerman played 81 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: forty two snaps, you know, in the game. And you know, 82 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm not I don't know about the assignment, if he 83 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: carried out his assignment fully with the right person and 84 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: all the things that go along with that. But watching 85 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: him play, he is powerful, he is strong. He can bend, 86 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: and he bends at the knees, not the waste You 87 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: don't want to be a waste bender. You want to 88 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: bend at the knees and then you're instill in a 89 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: good football position. And he is. I'll tell you the 90 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: guy is. He's got some brute force and frute strength 91 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: to him. And they were they were moving people. Dan. 92 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: You know the first double team that I saw between 93 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: Billy probably Price and Westerman, I mean, you got to 94 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: buy a token for that ride if you're a defensive line. 95 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: He went five seven yards backwards right into the linebacker's lap. 96 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: They just washed everything away and Joe Mixon was feeding 97 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: off of it. I talked to Joe a little bit 98 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: after the game and I'm like, that was I mean, 99 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: when you see a push like that, he goes, oh, man, 100 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: you know that's now. Now it's you're living right, You're 101 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: living good. And if you give Joe as talented as 102 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: he is, an ability to get past the line of scrimmage, 103 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: for he makes his first cut and in some cases 104 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: it was like two or three yards past the line 105 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, you know, just right up the belly of 106 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: the defense. That's that's really getting it done. And I 107 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: think that's why they stayed in the game against the 108 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: good football team as long as they did, as they 109 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: imposed their will in the interior and everything. You know, 110 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: they fed off of that aspect of it. So I 111 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: do think that you need to find out what you 112 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: have with you don't want to end another season and say, man, 113 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: Christian Westerman, physically, we know we got something there. Kenny. 114 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: Can he respond? Can he handle a lot of the 115 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: stress of the game mentally and all that goes along 116 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: with it? Can he do it? One way to find out, 117 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: got to expose him to snaps at critical times in 118 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: games against you know, really good competition and see what 119 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: you got. Redman has to continue to improve and quit 120 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: with the mental errors. And Billy Price is literally halfway 121 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: through his rookie year because of the injury. So all 122 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: three of those guys, I mean, I think the concluding 123 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: three games of this season are pivotal and monumental for 124 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: those three guys, that they can start to form some 125 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: kind of a bond there and prove that, hey, the 126 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: interior the Bengals offensive line might be pretty good in 127 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: years to come. We've seen two starts by Jeff Driscoll. 128 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: In those games, he's thrown two touchdown passes, one interception, 129 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: he's had a touchdown run that got wiped out by 130 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: a bad rule, and he's been sacked seven times. Has 131 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: he been better, worse? Or about what you expected? I 132 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: think about what I expected. He I knew he had 133 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: nfl arm talent and he does. I mean watching him throw, 134 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: he's got velocity, accuracy, puts it in in tight spots. 135 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: You know, he makes the uh the contested catch less contested. 136 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: He'll hit his receiver before you know, the arrival of 137 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: the defender and those kind of things. But he still 138 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: needs to see the field, you know, a little bit 139 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: more readily and easily than he is right now. And 140 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: that comes with reps they designed to play for Franks. 141 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: I was looking at the game again and Franks did 142 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: a little out and up move and it's seven points. 143 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: It's there, and he either didn't see it or get 144 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: off it too fast and didn't see it as it unfolded. 145 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: You know. Another time he made a completion and got 146 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: the first down, but there was another receiver on an 147 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: eight yard hook that was all by himself. Would have 148 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: been an easier throw to make. And you can you 149 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: can nit pick and cherry pick every single quarterbacks performance, 150 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: but I think some of the easy throws I think 151 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: are going to come to him, you know, based on 152 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: the number of reps and the number of snaps he gets. 153 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: But I'm impressed with him, I really am. I mean, 154 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: I think physically he's got he's got a lot of skills. 155 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he's he can move, he's strong, he's big, physical. 156 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: I think that he's um accelerating his career. I think 157 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: that in the first two games that he's played. I 158 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: think around the league it's like, m let's let's take 159 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: a longer look at at Jeff driscoll. He's not hurting himself. 160 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: He's he's helping himself with this opportunity, and that's what 161 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: you want as a as a backup quarterback when when 162 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: opportunity knocks, you know, when the doors open to crack, 163 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: you gotta kick it in, and I think he's doing that. 164 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to see him play against the Raiders 165 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: because the two games that he's played, look at the 166 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: pass rush. I mean Denver edge rushers, you know, and um, 167 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, back back to back games. You know, you 168 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 1: got the situation that he just faced last week. You 169 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: know a couple of good edge rushers as well, so 170 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: now maybe you get a little bit of a breather. 171 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: Denver's only got eleven quarter back sacks as a team 172 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: in thirteen games, and he was playing against guys that 173 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: had that many individually, you know, Chubb von Miller, Joey 174 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: Bosa hasn't played that many games this year, but he's 175 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: capable of those kind of numbers. It's it's I think 176 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna be very interesting to see how he plays 177 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: against the open Raiders and Paul Gunther. Aaron Donald has 178 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: sixteen and a half sacks and the Raiders, as you mentioned, 179 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: have eleven as a team. One thing about Paul Gunther though, 180 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: as we know, with that double a Gapplitz and all 181 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: the things he does off of it. He can run 182 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: a lot of coverages behind that double a gapp. He 183 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: can confuse quarterbacks. We saw him confuse Flacco time after 184 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: time at veteran quarterback. So that's the one thing. Jeff 185 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: Driscoll is gonna be really good with his nose in 186 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: the book, you know, and study and tape in the 187 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: playbook and everything to make sure that he's not confused 188 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: by stuff that Paul Gunther's going to concoct because you know, 189 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: going against an inexperienced quarterback, he's going to throw the 190 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: kitchen sink at him. In terms of different looks, who's 191 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: your most pleasant surprise and your biggest disappointment? I think 192 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: I think based on the way the season unfolded the 193 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: four and one start, there are a lot of good surprises. 194 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: But in the one and seven stretch here, I'm I'm 195 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: most uh, I guess pleased. I don't know about surprise, 196 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: but most pleased with what Joe Mixon and Tyler Boyd 197 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: are given. Not just with their numbers, but those guys 198 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: are all in. I mean, they go out and they 199 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: play no matter what I mean, They're gonna go out 200 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: and compete. They're gonna go out and slug it out. 201 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna get after it snap after snap. I think 202 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: I think the fan base has responded to Joe Mixon 203 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: and Tyler Boyd because of that. You know. I think 204 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: that those guys have I think, shown themselves as as leaders. 205 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: I think their leadership is building. I think guys are 206 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: gravitating toward them, you know. And I think it's unfortunate 207 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: that Jeff driscal is in the situation he's in, but 208 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: I think he's responded well. I think the thing to 209 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: me that's telling what a quarterback is how the guys 210 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: react and respond to him. And when he came into 211 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: that football game, they responded very possitively, and they have 212 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: ever since, and even in a couple of defeats, teammates 213 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: coming up to him in the locker room when I'm 214 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: in there right away after the game, you know, nice job, Hey, 215 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: he worked your tail off today. I mean, you gave 216 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: everything you got. So they are responding to Jeff Driscoll 217 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: not only with his physical abilities, but also, you know, 218 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: with his makeup and the way he is with his teammates. 219 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: And I know he works hard at practice, he practices 220 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: his tail off, and I think guys are you know, 221 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: grateful or appreciative of him taking advantage of the opportunity 222 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: that he's been given. They feel like he deserves it 223 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: and he's doing something about it. I think probably my 224 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: biggest disappointment is I'm stunned at how the defense played. 225 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I think every problem every Bengals fan is. 226 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: I mean I thought, really the beginning of the season, 227 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: with two Pro bowlers that just got big contract extensions 228 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: and they you know, they'd have a lot of juice 229 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: as a result, you know, for a lot of reasons 230 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: to go out and really have big years. And then 231 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: on the back end with three first round picks, they're 232 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: covering people that we talked about it a few times. 233 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: That's the makings of a decent defense in today's NFL. 234 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: And man, just to fall on their face the way 235 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: they did is stunning to me. I mean, it's historically bad, 236 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: and I had no inkling that it was going to 237 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: be that bad. During the course of training camp. I thought, 238 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: oh man, they're hustling. Look, the only the thing that 239 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: they did in the four in one stretch was creating 240 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: the turnovers and defensive scores and all that that's dried up. 241 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that that well has gone pretty dry, and 242 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: really it's it's almost it's almost incomprehensible to me that 243 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: they can be as bad as they are statistically after 244 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: thirteen games in into the season. So by far, that's 245 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: my biggest disappointment, Surprise, shock, stunner, whatever you want to 246 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: categorize it. It's it's just absolutely mind boggling to me. 247 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: So I'm watching Monday Night football this week and century 248 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: Link Field in Seattle was rocking. The place was packed, 249 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: the noise level was deafening. That will not be the 250 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: case here on Sunday for the home finale, but it 251 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: used to be. The Bengals sold out fifty seven straight 252 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: games between two thousand and three and two thousand and ten. 253 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: As somebody who has been affiliated with this franchise for 254 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: most of your life, how much do the empty seats 255 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: bother you? And what will it take to get people back? 256 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: It does bother me, and it bothers me as a 257 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: former player, because I can harken back to a four 258 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: and twelve season where our final home game against the 259 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons offense was being introduced, where we ran out 260 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: the tunnel and you know, it's ten minutes before kickoff 261 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: or whatever it was, and our footsteps were echoing. There 262 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: was nobody there, and you know, you look around, it's like, 263 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: oh boy, you know now you have to you have 264 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: to manufacture your own energy. And you got to do it. 265 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you're a professional, you're being paid to do it. 266 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: But sometimes it's not as easy to do as people think. 267 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: But you have to. And that's been I think a 268 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: question that a lot of the fans have. Boy, these 269 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: guys even going to give effort. I mean, I'll show 270 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: up if they give effort, if they if they try 271 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: and my eyes are doing everything they can to win 272 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: a football game and not throwing in a neutral and 273 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: cruise control, you know, come and support them. So I 274 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: think that's what it's going to take. And then when 275 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: when the stadium is packed, I mean, feeding off that energy. 276 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: You know, the Super Bowl season, super Bowl sixteen in 277 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one with the fans with the orange and 278 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: black faces and the Hoodae, the you know, the the 279 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: birth of the Hooday Chance and all that. It was unbelievable. 280 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: It was like it was like a college atmosphere. And 281 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, then when you're running out of the tunnel, 282 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: your feet aren't in the ground. I mean, you're you're 283 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: on cloud nine. You're floating, and you feel like you 284 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: can pick the stadium up, you know, uh, not only 285 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: go play football. So it is it is night and 286 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: day and uh and all the other things go along 287 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: with it. Dan, I mean as a as an offensive lineman, Um, 288 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: I know what it's like to not be able to 289 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: hear people. And that's what it was like. Our defense 290 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: would feed off of that. Our crowd was going nuts 291 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: and and the Bengals have to get back to that. 292 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: And the only way they can do it is to 293 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: give full effort every single snap and win some football games. 294 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: This week, it's the twenty eighteen home finale, has the 295 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: Bengals host the three and ten Oakland Raiders. The Bengals 296 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: are three point favorite, despite all of their injuries and 297 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: their five game losing streak. Lap Raiders fans had high 298 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: hopes with John Gruden returning to the sidelines this year. 299 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: Why do the Raiders stink? They dismantled the football team. Basically, 300 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: they're they're building for the opening of their new stadium 301 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, and they basically are thumbing their noses 302 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: at the open Raider fans who have been tremendously loyal 303 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: to that franchise for a number of years, and they 304 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: had you know, they were thrilled. Here it comes John grudenback. Boy, 305 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: We've got a quarterback this Pro Bowl caliber. We have Mac, 306 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: who's the best defensive player, not anymore Max as Chicago Bear. 307 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: Cooper is a Dallas cowboy. They're accumulating first round picks, 308 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: but I don't care. If you have ten first round picks, 309 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: you may not ever find another Mac. To give up him, 310 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: to give up on Mac and to trade him is 311 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: unbelievable to me. Irving Bruce Irvan, another good pass rusher, 312 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: is no longer a Raider. So they only have eleven 313 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: sacks in thirteen games. It's it's unbelievable. There's no no 314 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: pass rush. And there they've had their injuries too. You 315 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: look at their injury reserve list, it's about as lengthy 316 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: as the Bengals is an interesting enough. Then there are 317 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: eight former Bengals on that roster for them an injury reserve, 318 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: so the virus is not only current Bengals former Bengals 319 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: around the league. For the eighth former Bengals are on 320 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: injury reserve with the Raiders that's that's mind boggling. So 321 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: I think that's that's pretty much it. They've they've traded 322 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: their best players to try to get future draft picks, 323 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: and then the injuries to players that remained, and they're 324 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: a sella what they thought they might be. Last thing. 325 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: It's been seven years since former Raiders owner Al Davis 326 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: passed away, but his legend still looms large over the franchise. 327 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: You have an El Davis story. I remember early in 328 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: my career going out to Oakland and uh, you know, 329 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: Al Davis said let the grass grow to about a 330 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: foot and a half long because he didn't have he 331 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: didn't have huge speed, you know, like Blittnicoff really couldn't run. 332 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: Marv Hubbard wasn't a guy that was really a runner, 333 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, more of a powerful football team than a 334 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: speed team. So he would always let the grass grow 335 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: and try trying to get the opposition's team speed a 336 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: little bit. And I remember vividly the stories about it. 337 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: Then when I went out there, I'm like, this grass 338 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: is longer, there's no question about it. It's funny. And 339 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: I see him on the field and uh, we were 340 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: just going through um individual position drill warm ups, and 341 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: he kind of walked by the offensive liner. And when 342 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: I was curling back to the end of the line 343 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: after going through a little drill um, he comes walking 344 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: Behy in his black and silver you know, garb, his 345 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: his raider garb and he's chewing gum about one hundred 346 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: and fifty miles an hour young. He was banging the 347 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: banging his gums away and hey, hey, Sarah Kills, huh, 348 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: he says, laughing, what's going on? Huh, Sarah Kills. I'm like, yeah, hey, 349 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: mister Davis, how you doing? You know? And that, honestly, 350 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: that was a thrill to actually see him in that 351 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: in that kind of environment and then think, I mean 352 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: he actually knows my name. That was like, God, that's 353 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: unbelievable that Al Davis knows my last name. That's cool 354 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: as heck. And then um, when the game later on, 355 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: we're playing when Matt Millen is a Raider, we're playing 356 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: the Raiders, and I was I'd gotten to be pretty 357 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: good friends with him, and after the game we're talking 358 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: and a couple of things happened during the course of 359 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: the game that were pretty funny. But after the game, 360 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: I said, man, you guys, you guys are dirty, you know, 361 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: I mean, your your whole mentality is I mean you guys, 362 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: you guys push it every single snap. I mean you're 363 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: committing multiple fouls. He goes, You don't think that's by design, dude. 364 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: Al Davis says to us, look, go out there, do 365 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: whatever you need to do to get the job done. 366 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: And if they throw a penalty flag, all of you 367 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: commit a foul and they're gonna go throw two in 368 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: a row. And if they throw two, they're not gonna 369 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: throw three in a row. He said, go out there 370 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: and do whatever it takes. And he said that came 371 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: from the top. That was that was from the top down. 372 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: Just uh, you know, press the press the limit on 373 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: the rule and fractions every single play. And man, those guys, 374 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: it was a street fight when you played those guys. Man, 375 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: you had to bring it because they were bringing it 376 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: all they were. They were going out there and doing 377 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: everything they possibly could to win the football game. If 378 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: we're within the rules or not within the boundary of 379 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: the rules, just win baby, exactly. Just win baby at 380 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: all costs, no matter what it takes. Al Davis the 381 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: legend Thanks Lap. Last week, the Bengals announced that Carlos 382 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: Dunlap is the team's nominee for the twenty eighteen Walter 383 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: Payton NFL Man of the Year Award. Considered one of 384 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: the league's most prestigious honors. It recognizes an NFL player 385 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: for outstanding community service as well as excellence on the field. 386 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: Carlos is helping the Cincinnati community in a wide variety 387 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: of ways. For starters, there's the Carlos Dunlap Foundation, which 388 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: focuses on education, offering tutoring and after school events, and 389 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: Carlos is in the second season of his anti bullying Tour. 390 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: Dunlap made stops at five schools in Cincinnati and also 391 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: met with kids in Charlotte, Kansas City, in Baltimore during 392 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: road trips. This is the second time in four years 393 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: the Dunlap has been nominated for the Walter Payton Man 394 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: of the Year Award, and he talked about the honor 395 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: with Lap on Wednesday. It's an unbelievable acknowledgment, you know, 396 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: being able to, you know, get recognized and nominated, you 397 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: know twice, especially knowing with all my teammates are doing here. 398 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of guys are very active in 399 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: the community here in Cincinnati at home. So to get 400 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: recognized knowing what they're doing, it's definitely, you know, a 401 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: privilege and honor to represent the team again. And let's 402 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: try to bring it home. I hear you. Your anti 403 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: bullying campaign has been highly recognized and rightfully so. I mean, 404 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty pretty impressive what you're doing there. And 405 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: you're not only doing it here in Cincinnati, you're doing 406 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: it you know, you're taking it on the road a 407 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: little bit to other NFL cities. What was the h 408 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: what was the impetus of what? What was the trigger 409 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: mechanism that kets you involved in the in the anti 410 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: bullying campaign. Well, with my foundation, UM, we've been going 411 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: to a lot of the schools and and you know, 412 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: UM trying to hit home the importance of education. UM. 413 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: So we go to talk to these n city athletes 414 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: who don't really take their education that seriously, but they're 415 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, excelling on the football field, and we go 416 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: on there and we challenge them to you know, take 417 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: that same competitive mindset that they have on the field 418 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: of playing service whatever it is that they're on UM 419 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: and bring that into the classroom because uh, you know, 420 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: you have to go through college and also, uh, your 421 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: college education and your college degree is something that never 422 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: depreciate or go away. You know, you might get old, 423 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: slow down a little bit, right, you know, all those 424 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: other things that happened, injuries happened, but they'll never be 425 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: able to take your mind away. And that college degree 426 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: that you know, putting that up on the wall his 427 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: unbelievable accomplishment. And some people are you know, first generation 428 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: for doing that. And you know, one of the schools nearby, 429 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: one of the schools that I go to and talk 430 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: about the importance of education, had a situation where, you know, 431 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: a smart kid was excelling the classroom, but he was 432 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: getting bullied for being smart, and it was to the 433 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: point where he felt that alone that he wanted to 434 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: take his own life. And for a young kid at 435 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: that age, you know, I can't imagine what he must 436 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: have been going through to feel that much pressure as 437 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: a kid, you know, you know, kids don't usually feel 438 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: much of anything, but he must have been going through 439 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: that much pressure that he felt like that that was 440 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: his only option. So we didn't want to We wanted 441 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: to take a stand on that and try to make 442 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: a difference on that, because no kids should feel that 443 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: alone in a school system or school, at school whatever 444 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: with this many adults, this many you know, principal administrators, UM, 445 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: people that they didn't use as a resource. And and 446 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: also you just want to educate the kids on what 447 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: bullying is because you know a lot of times kids 448 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: aren't aren't aware that they're actually bullying somebody. You know, 449 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: they think it's a joke. But one of the things 450 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: we say, it's not a joke unless everybody's included. If 451 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: you win the National Award what is it two undred 452 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars that that goes to your in your name, 453 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: to your to what play sixty is it? Or your 454 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: foundation or both? Or how does that work? Yeah, there's 455 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: so half of it goes to the playbook or UM 456 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: the foundation that the NFL designates, and then the other 457 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 1: half I get to designate who it will go to. UM. 458 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: I get to pick a foundation of my choice UM. 459 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: And for in order for me to win, I need 460 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: everyone to go on their social media platform and use 461 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: the hashtag Walter Payton Man of the Year but abbreviated 462 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: w M. POY Challenge space Dunlap in this and that's 463 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: how he can vote Yeah, that's how As simple as 464 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: that is, how you can vote. You tweet that hashtag 465 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: or you post a picture on Instagram using the hashtag, 466 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: and that counts the voting. There's no there's no limits 467 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: to how many times you want to voting. I want 468 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: to thank everybody in advance. This year, all thirty two 469 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: team winners will be highlighted as finalists and recognized for 470 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: their important work during the weekend leading up to the 471 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. To learn more about Dunlap's nomination, visit NFL 472 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: dot com backslash Man of the Year. Now time for 473 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: this week's No The Fox segment is we take a 474 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: closer look at the upcoming opponent, and to do that, 475 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: we pick the brain, a former Pro Bowl offensive lineman 476 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: Lincoln Kennedy who calls Raiders games on the radio with 477 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: a legendary Brent Musburger. They're out manned at pretty much 478 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: every position. What I mean by that is that injuries 479 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: have decimated their this roster. They've asked Gruden and the 480 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: staff has asked a lot of rookies to step up there. 481 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: They're averaging, you know, starting on every game at least 482 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: twelve first year players, so you know, across the board. 483 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: It's a it's a very thin rang. And most people 484 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: have asked me over the last couple of months where 485 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: the Raiders trying to lose the better position themselves with 486 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: the draft. Well know, and John Gruden have a playing 487 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: for him the way I do. I would never see that, 488 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: and I guess you saw it last week against the Steelers. 489 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: Let me ask you, big man at the offensive tackle position, 490 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: two rookies, Colton Miller, Marcel Eateman, how they playing, how 491 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: they looking? They're big people, big body guy or excuse me, 492 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: Brandon Parker at the right time. Yeah, yeah, Brandon Parker 493 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: and Colton Miller. How the big boys playing on the 494 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: edge there. Well, you can imagine if you're a rookie 495 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: coming into the National Football League, especially the AFC West Division, 496 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: where you've got guys like you know, you've got guys 497 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: like Botha and Ingram and von Miller and all you know, 498 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: just name a few Bradley Chubb at the outside end, 499 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: how hard it can be to be successful. And there's 500 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: no different. Colton Miller, for what it's worth, has done 501 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: a fairly good job as a rookie stepping in and 502 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: playing really one of the most difficult positions online cool 503 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: and then Brandon Parker, for what it's worth, Brandon went 504 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: to small school, he went to North Carolina and t 505 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: and so for him to be thrusted in the position. 506 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: He's got all the intangibles. He's got the footwork, he's 507 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: got the size, he's got the strength. He just doesn't 508 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: have the experience. And you know as well as I do, 509 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: when it comes offensive line play, it's all about reps 510 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: and snaps and playing against premier talent. That's what you 511 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: have to do in the National Football League. So he's 512 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: taken his lumps. I actually actually backed it up. Derek 513 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: Carr has taken his lumps by an experience. But but 514 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: for the most part, you know, they're they're doing fairly well. 515 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: They'll be good for the future. It's just they're going 516 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: to take their lumps this season. Right we're talking to 517 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: the great firm pro bowler Lincoln Kennedy. The Raiders traded 518 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: away too, eight players in Khalil Mackin and Maari Cooper. 519 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: How did that impact morale? It really shrank it. I 520 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: mean it really did. It depleted it. To be honest 521 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: with you, A lot of guys in the locker room 522 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: did not expect that to happen. I know why Gruden 523 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: did it in both cases, but for the most part, 524 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: a lot of guys didn't know what was going on. 525 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: They kind of got over after a while the Khalil 526 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: match trade, but then when they traded to Maari Cooper 527 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: because John Gruden when he came in, he took over 528 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: the roster. He made it from. It went from one 529 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: of the youngest rosters in the National Football League to 530 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: one of the older rosters by signing like seventeen guys 531 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: who were thirty and over. So it left a lot 532 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: of those guys, those veterans in they're unsure about their future. 533 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: What's your take on the Roley McKenzie firing. And then 534 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: John's catching a lot of a lot of grief obviously 535 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: from the media about with the press conference about how 536 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: he was surprised that it took place, and everybody's you know, 537 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: interpretation is, Hey, the guys in control, the guy's gonna 538 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: be head coach GM everything else. They're paying him one 539 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, you know, for ten years. How can 540 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: he not know? How can he be surprised? What kind 541 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: of a trickle down you think there's been from that 542 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: if any of the players, and what's your take on it. Well, 543 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: my my take is this, and I'm not surprised. I'm 544 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: surprised in the timing. I knew it was going to happen, 545 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: because ever since I mentioned when Gruden came in and 546 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: took over, he basically depleted the roster all the draft choices, 547 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: pretty much governed a lot of the draft choices that 548 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: regime and Kenzie and his staff had over the years. 549 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: So you knew Reggie was going to move on. And 550 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: Reggie's a good guy, he's a good general manager. He'll 551 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: land on his feet somewhere else. I don't doubt that 552 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: for a second. But you know, look, grud has been 553 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: playing this game all season. He did it with Khalil 554 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: MACKI did it with Mary Cooper, you know, acting like 555 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: he wasn't in the know, and we all know it's 556 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: We're not foolish, we all know what's going on. It 557 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: is what it is. But he wants to put his 558 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: own staple on this roster and he wants to He's 559 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: going to start in this offseason. They've got a ton 560 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: of cash to spend. More importantly, they've got you know, 561 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: three first round draft choices, so they're going to do 562 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: a lot in this upcoming draft, this upcoming off season. Lincoln, 563 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: you were the ninth pick in the draft out of Washington. 564 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: The Bengals have a ninth pick in the draft out 565 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: of Washington and John Ross. I imagine you have interest 566 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: in John. What do you think of the injury problems 567 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: he's had and the relatively slow start to his NFL career. 568 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: I would have liked him to stay in college a 569 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: year longer and finish out that because I just think 570 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: his durability needed to be tested and need to be 571 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: tested by reps. It's very difficult to be put in 572 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: that position, especially when you know what he did at 573 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: a combine and everybody was so blown away about his speed. 574 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: It's a little bit different than National football lea, Hey, 575 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: everybody's fast, and you got to find a way to 576 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: be durable. I'm wishing John the best. I do hope 577 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: he figures it out sooner or later, because look, I 578 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: was in the situation when I first got drafted by Atlanta, 579 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: did not sit in their said scheme of things, was 580 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: written off by many to a bus as being a 581 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: bus until I got the chance to play in Oakland 582 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: and sort of revitalize my career for Cincinnati Bengal fans 583 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: and Cincinnati's sake. I hope he's able to figure out 584 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: sooner rather than later. Yeah, it's amazing how it's It's 585 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: where you go is almost as important as anything else. 586 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: It's who you're, who you're coached by, what scheme it is. 587 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: I mean, is it a fit? Isn't it a a fit? 588 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: You know? I mean quarterbacks, Uh, if they if they 589 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: get drafted into a bad situation in terms of coaches 590 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: and schematic you know, they're a bus like golfs, a 591 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: bus with fisher Now look at them. You know it 592 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: really is. It's a lot of that is determined by 593 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: the luck of a draw. You know where you end 594 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: up and how you end up. Let me ask you 595 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: about Jared Cook. This guy's a freakazoid. Sixty five two 596 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five pounds, runs like a wide out. 597 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: I mean they detach them and let them run routes 598 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: like a wide out. How big a factor is this 599 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: is this guy in the future of football with the Raiders. Well, 600 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: you look at the overall position of tight end. It's 601 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: absolutely key essential in order for us to an offensive 602 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: be successful for the most part. They got to have 603 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: a tight end. Look at Indianapolis. I think Indianapolis has 604 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: four tight ends on the roster who are six three 605 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: and taller. You talk about Travis Kelsey and you talk 606 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: about the great Grocouski. Because the rules are the way 607 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: they are. If you have a good size tight end, 608 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: and if he has some speech to himself, it presents 609 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: a matchup problem for defenses because he might be he'll 610 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: be faster than an average linebacker, he'll be taller than 611 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: an average safety. So who are you going to put him? 612 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna waste the corner to put on them. Then 613 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: he's bigger than him. So that's the advantages you get 614 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: out of the position, especially if the receiver type. So, 615 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: but Jared Cook has been the Raider's MVP, and Derek 616 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: Carton knows it, and he's going to try to get 617 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: defenses into Nickel or a dome scheme and they're going 618 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: to try to find out who's matched up. He saw 619 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: last week in the Pittsburgh game that when he had 620 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: a linebacker or undersized safety, it was automatic he was 621 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: going to go to him. Yep. A couple more questions 622 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: for Lincoln Kennedy. We saw a lot of Paul Gunter 623 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: here as defensive coordinator and is the Bengals DC. Paul 624 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: liked to rush for and drops seven. He hated the blitz. 625 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: Bengals probably had the lowest blitz percentage while he was 626 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: here of any team in the NFL. I looked at 627 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: the Oakland stats. They see eleven sacks as a team, 628 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: and I assume that that's what Paul has been doing. 629 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: Is that the case? That is the case, Well, he look, 630 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: he's having the blitz because the Raiders don't have a rusher. 631 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: The Raiders on each level of the defense, defensive linebackers, 632 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: in secondary have had holes. They have needs and there's 633 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: gonna be major turnover this offseason the Robster, especially on 634 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: the defensive side. I like Gunther's scheme. He just doesn't 635 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: have the people to do it and talk with. But 636 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: Paul extensively, you know, he said, look, if I had 637 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: a guy like Khalil Mack, you know I can I 638 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: could do some things with him, rushing him, get him isolated, 639 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But he doesn't have that luxury art 640 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: and key. For what it's worth right now, the Raiders 641 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: third round pick was is a nickel rusher because he's undersized, 642 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: he's not an every down player. So the Raiders have 643 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: got addressed the needs, as I said, on every level 644 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: of their defense. And Paul Gunter is going to have 645 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: to have a major turnover in order to implement his 646 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: philosophy because right now they just don't have the people 647 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: to do it. Lincoln, how good is Maurice Hurst. He's 648 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: playing really well. He had he was injured. He didn't 649 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: play the last game. I think he had the last 650 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: game he was out, but he has been playing pretty well. Look, 651 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: the Raiders are asking their rookies to do a lot 652 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: because they have been decimated by injuries and had a 653 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: bunch of the older players put on ir they're asking 654 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: their young players to do a lot. More importantly, they've 655 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: got to get the young players to believe into it, 656 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: because even if the veterans say they don't want to 657 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: be with the Raiders anymore, they want to go elsewhere, 658 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: your future is going to be dictated a lot on 659 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: your rookies and your newcoming players. And so they've asked 660 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: Maurice and TJ. Hall and a lot of Justin Ellis, 661 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: a lot of defensive tackles to do a lot, especially 662 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,959 Speaker 1: in that interior rotation, because they're valuable as far as 663 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: run stopping goes. What are the players thinking, like next year, 664 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: where are we going to play Oakland suing Us? I mean, 665 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: do the players think idea? You think of that stuff. Yeah. 666 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: The thing is that players, players just want to play. 667 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: Said they had to play on the sandlot, they played, 668 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: They do that. They don't. They don't get caught up 669 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: in these things. Now. Yeah, the matter of uncertainty comes 670 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: for a lot of the veterans who've got families and 671 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: if they bought a place in California, they're trying to 672 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: figure out where they're going to be. I mean that's 673 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: where you kind of get offset. But I'm in a 674 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: dark just like you guys, and I'm pretty close to 675 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: the organization. I have no idea what we're playing this year. Yeah, 676 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: I don't. And it's it's said when you've got three 677 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: games left in the season, and I'm really tired with 678 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: a lot of the Raider faithful and Raider Nation up 679 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: in the Bay Area. UM, there are a lot of 680 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: season ticket holders who don't know they're they're unsure, they 681 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: don't want to commit to the team, even though they 682 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: want to follow because they don't know where it's gonna be. Huh, bizarre. 683 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: The Raider fans have been is I mean, is energetic 684 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: and supportive as any in the history of the NFL. 685 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: Is it waning at all with all this that's going on, 686 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: or as Raider Nation as strong as ever. No, it's 687 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: it's definitely waning. There's there's no doubt about it, because 688 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: there's a level and certainty right now. There were a 689 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: lot of Raider fans who were excited that John Gruden 690 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: came back in the fold because when he came back, 691 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: he projected that the Raiders are going to be competitive 692 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: and there they were going to try to challenge for 693 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl before the Raiders left. Well, that's not 694 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: going to happen. It's not gonna happen this year, obviously, 695 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: and it's not probably that's going to happen next year 696 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: unless i mean everything falls their way and they get 697 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: you know, it just doesn't happen like that in the 698 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: National Football League. So there's a lot of uncertainty from 699 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: the heartbeat of the Raider Nation, which is in Oakland, California. 700 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: You know, the future looks bright as far as the 701 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: stadium goes when they get in Vegas and everything else 702 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: when that time comes. But in that interim, in that 703 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: time between now and then, there's a lot of uncertainty, 704 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: and the Raider Nation is up in the here because 705 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: they don't know where the team's going to be. They 706 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: would love to support them, but here's the thing, this 707 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: is such a bizarre situation even with the relocation, that 708 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: it's really hard to commit to something or want to 709 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: be a part of something, especially when they're not being 710 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: as successful as they as you want on the field. 711 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: Final question will let you go, what's it like working 712 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: with Musburger? Really surreal? And it really is. It's um. 713 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: Every time I look over to Brent, I remember him 714 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: as a kid on CBS with the crew and hearing 715 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: his voice, you know, it's it was so it's timeless 716 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,720 Speaker 1: being and hearing the stories that he's had throughout his career. 717 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: So it's it's absolutely wonderful. But um, it is a 718 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: surreal moment when you when you realize what I realized 719 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: that I'm calling games with the legendary Brent Musblatter. It's 720 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 1: it's a dream from true all right, thanks to Lincoln Kennedy, 721 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: And that's going to do it for this episode of 722 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: the podcast. If you haven't done so already, don't forget 723 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: to subscribe on iTunes, Stitcher, or pod Bean, and if 724 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: you have a minute, give it a rating or leave 725 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: a comment. Your feedback is always appreciated. Five star ratings 726 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,479 Speaker 1: help more Bengals fans find this podcast. I'm Dan Horde 727 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: and thanks so much for listening to the Bengals Booth 728 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: podcast