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Speaker 1: Draft Show. It's been a weird week. It really has
Speaker 1: because one, this is one of the most important weeks
Speaker 1: that we've seen in recent Dallas Cowboys news because of
Speaker 1: the contracts. It's it's the Big three cs is what
Speaker 1: it is. It's contracts, It's the CBA, and then it's coronavirus.
Speaker 1: I was wondering, Yeah, okay, yeah, those are the three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it's been dominating storyline. This week has aged me
Speaker 1: about a year, I think, and I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you can have whatever opinion you want about the severity
Speaker 1: of all of this, but it's definitely become a story
Speaker 1: of worldwide prominence. Oh and by the way, the NBA
Speaker 1: is suspended its season. Yeah, the NHL looks like it
Speaker 1: might suspend it season that right now. The NCAA tournament
Speaker 1: is currently set to be played behind closed doors, but
Speaker 1: I won't be surprised if that gets suspended as well.
Speaker 1: So with six weeks to go, it's totally fair to
Speaker 1: wonder what that means for the NFL Draft, like as
Speaker 1: it sits right now, and obviously, like so much is
Speaker 1: going to change, but it wouldn't shock me if you know,
Speaker 1: we were joking before the show, like maybe they'll do
Speaker 1: the draft from a conference room, they might mean, and
Speaker 1: very good point, rightfully, So if it's in the best
Speaker 1: interest of the public, honestly, just take it into a
Speaker 1: convention center kind of like how they used to do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, throw it in. It's funny to think they
Speaker 1: get auditorium. It's funny to think that this whole thing
Speaker 1: used to just be you know, they called it like
Speaker 1: the Draft convention or something. You know, they're like, no,
Speaker 1: they called it the draft meeting. Like back in the day.
Speaker 1: They would just sit around a table and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: that guy, that guy, and I just go yeah, And
Speaker 1: obviously it's developed into something completely different. Yeah, much like
Speaker 1: the rest of the NFL. But maybe you go back
Speaker 1: to that. I don't know. It's hard for me to imagine,
Speaker 1: unless things significantly improve over the next three to four weeks,
Speaker 1: that they're gonna want one hundred and fifty thousand people
Speaker 1: crowding into downtown Las Vegas. A couple things interesting that
Speaker 1: the NFL does, as they don't really announce next year's
Speaker 1: draft until, you know, after this year's draft, so they
Speaker 1: do it draft weekend. Okay, so it really wouldn't be
Speaker 1: hard though, to go, Okay, Vegas, you're gonna get it
Speaker 1: again next year and do it the way they already
Speaker 1: make the pics remotely. Yeah, so you know, if it's
Speaker 1: Rich Eyes and of the NFL network for the TV deal,
Speaker 1: because that's what they're worried about obviously, not only the
Speaker 1: gathering of people, but they also want to make sure
Speaker 1: that people are watching on TV, which people will be
Speaker 1: doing no matter where are you do it. So that's
Speaker 1: not a problem. You just go one year without having
Speaker 1: the big draft party, well it's it's probably a problem
Speaker 1: in the sense that hotel rooms have been booked for
Speaker 1: months and they were going to they were talking about
Speaker 1: they were talking about having the first round picks crossed
Speaker 1: like the Bellaggio fountain on a boat or whatever. So
Speaker 1: I no, I mean there's a lot of there's a
Speaker 1: lot of it. No, I'm not. That's not a joke. No,
Speaker 1: that's not going to bring them in on a boat.
Speaker 1: And then they were going to drop them off on
Speaker 1: a dock and then from that dock they would walk
Speaker 1: up over the stage and so and of course it's
Speaker 1: not necessary, none of this is. But it's Las Vegas
Speaker 1: and it's the NFL. But I'm the point being is
Speaker 1: there's a lot of resources already committed to making this
Speaker 1: thing fantastic, and so you know that's money that Las
Speaker 1: Vegas and the NFL will probably have to eat, although
Speaker 1: if you push it back a year at least you
Speaker 1: have a chance to recoup that later. I mean to
Speaker 1: your point. You know, people always ask me, They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: are you going to whatever city the draft is in
Speaker 1: for the draft, which on the surface makes sense, but
Speaker 1: not really because if it's our job to cover what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are doing, everybody important for the Cowboys is
Speaker 1: about two hundred feet that way absolutely during the draft,
Speaker 1: and they have press conferences here, they bring the pick here,
Speaker 1: so there's no real need to be out there. So
Speaker 1: if push comes to shove, if coronavirus prompts them to
Speaker 1: have to change up what they do with the draft,
Speaker 1: other than the lost revenue for Las Vegas, I don't
Speaker 1: think it would be a hard fix to just do
Speaker 1: this all remotely, because that's kind of what it is. Anyway. Well,
Speaker 1: and over the course of today's show, we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about some reckless comps. Of course, the Draft Show
Speaker 1: presented by Miller Line, We're gonna talk about reckless comps.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Twitter on the twenty. Of course,
Speaker 1: we'll keep that in the loop as well, But it's
Speaker 1: kind of sticking with this conversation. It doesn't really get
Speaker 1: real of a pandemic now, as the World Health Organization
Speaker 1: has deemed it. It doesn't necessarily get real until it
Speaker 1: starts affecting your personal life. Really, Now, some earlier than
Speaker 1: others were affected by this, but we're gonna start seeing
Speaker 1: some NFL draft coverage and exactly the entire draft process
Speaker 1: starting to be affected by this. Pro days. What's gonna
Speaker 1: be the stigma around that, or we're gonna have media
Speaker 1: pro days, or we're gonna have pro days at all?
Speaker 1: Are those going to be canceled? I mean, you talked
Speaker 1: about some of these guys who didn't have measurements in
Speaker 1: the NFL combine because they're running at the Pro day,
Speaker 1: because they're doing those drills after Pro Days, and we
Speaker 1: may not even get a chance to see some of
Speaker 1: those guys and evaluates. So now I'm sure they'll do
Speaker 1: a workout. I'm sure it'll be streamed or something with
Speaker 1: just minimal people in the building. But that's my question
Speaker 1: to you guys, is what are some of the options
Speaker 1: now best case scenario for really the entire draft process
Speaker 1: moving forward. That's a really good question. And I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're starting to see the effects of that already. You know,
Speaker 1: it sounds like at least a couple of staffs, you know,
Speaker 1: the Eagles, where one of them are like pulling their
Speaker 1: scouting staffs off the road until you get a better
Speaker 1: feel for this thing. You know. I've also heard like,
Speaker 1: you know, if it's possible, and it's definitely not in
Speaker 1: all instances, but if it's possible, I think scouts are
Speaker 1: going to avoid air travel in favor of driving. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a safer, safer prospect. And again, you know, Oklahoma's
Speaker 1: pro day was yesterday. Obviously Cowboys scouts can get to
Speaker 1: that without an air without an airplane. Yeah, and there
Speaker 1: was a crowded house. Yeah, they're no doubt it was
Speaker 1: like knowing for Hurtz and Gallamore and Ceedee Lamb or
Speaker 1: I think it. I think it still will be. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, this is all so much up
Speaker 1: in the air, but I think a lot of this
Speaker 1: stuff And again because I mean I know a lot
Speaker 1: of scouts go to pro days, but it's still you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's not thousands of people. You're probably talking about
Speaker 1: eighty to two hundred people, depending on how big the
Speaker 1: prode is. And so I'd be curious to see how
Speaker 1: many of them actually get outright canceled or or shut
Speaker 1: down or something like that, because the size of the
Speaker 1: crowd leads me to believe you could probably still do
Speaker 1: it with minimal risk. But but they're really just getting
Speaker 1: started like these were in the early days, like they
Speaker 1: kind of hit their peak at the end of March
Speaker 1: in early April. So I'm curious to see how all
Speaker 1: this affects what these schools do. Wisconsin knocked out their
Speaker 1: pro day yesterday too, Auburon was like early las week. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I mean crazy some of them. Some of them knock
Speaker 1: it out the week after the combine, which I always
Speaker 1: I see that as silly because if you can't work
Speaker 1: out at the combine, you're probably not gonna be ready
Speaker 1: a week later. Yeah. I s went there for a
Speaker 1: reason because my guy Quintess c fist the wide receiver. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did he run up better? Forty? He turned his four
Speaker 1: seven three into a four five six? Are you serious?
Speaker 1: So yeah, and it's pro day. State cut him off
Speaker 1: at thirty eight yards. Wisconsin gave him point one seven
Speaker 1: seconds at the PROD. You know, I'll say this, though
Speaker 1: I don't know. My reckless comp for him is Michael
Speaker 1: Gallut by the way, Yeah you've said it, but we
Speaker 1: know you love quintet. Jeffrey Okuda from Ohio State. He
Speaker 1: said that's the best wide receiver he faced all year.
Speaker 1: He did say, keep that in mind. Wow, quintest cefas
Speaker 1: back on the round four radar. I mean, it's funny though.
Speaker 1: I actually I talked to a scout in Indie and
Speaker 1: we were kind of talking about pro days and combine
Speaker 1: times and all that, and I've always thought that was silly,
Speaker 1: like you know, you know, people will say like Ohio
Speaker 1: State has a downhill track or you know, it's a
Speaker 1: fast track. Brought us to tell you that, which I'm
Speaker 1: unreal and I've been rolling my eyes. It brought us
Speaker 1: for six years. And this scout was like, oh, oh no,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's a thing like these guys are most
Speaker 1: of these guys are going to run significantly better times
Speaker 1: at their prote is. I just think that's fascinating and
Speaker 1: why run at the combat? Yeah, seriously, it's a really
Speaker 1: good point. Put a bad time out there, probably because
Speaker 1: the same scouts will ding you for not wanting to compete,
Speaker 1: like wanting to stand on your workouts. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm dinging guys for not washing their hands. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: I think that's the big one. Now, not having hand
Speaker 1: sanitizing nearby, that's a big thing. Some lights all over
Speaker 1: here and that's yeah, we do have a ton of
Speaker 1: ice al and sprayed it down earlier. But with all
Speaker 1: this being said, and kind of going back to that
Speaker 1: conversation we're having earlier and you kind of brought this
Speaker 1: up a little bit, how are guys going to be
Speaker 1: tested going into this process because you don't know where
Speaker 1: it's been and what kind of dude sickness and contact
Speaker 1: they've been having. We talk about some of the behind
Speaker 1: the scenes stuff. I mean, Ross Blacklock had thirty seven
Speaker 1: parking tickets during his time at TCU, and it's all
Speaker 1: these background things. What are these things like staff's gonna
Speaker 1: have to look any of these guys been to Italy recently?
Speaker 1: I don't know which. You know, it's it's not the draft,
Speaker 1: but it affects the draft. I was thinking about this
Speaker 1: in regard to free agency. There's I mean, there's debate
Speaker 1: about whether you need to move that back. I don't
Speaker 1: really think you do, because I mean, again, this is
Speaker 1: something you can all do remotely, like free agency has
Speaker 1: done via smartphone these days. But at the same time, though,
Speaker 1: like you, I don't know, do you want to give
Speaker 1: out like a sixty million dollar contract to a guy
Speaker 1: that might have coronavirus? I mean, and I don't. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be flippant or make a joke
Speaker 1: about it. I'm dead serious. Like that seems like pertinent
Speaker 1: information if you're gonna be handing out major contracts. It's
Speaker 1: the same conversation that we've had in the past about
Speaker 1: guys who have injury histories in the draft. I remember
Speaker 1: the Auburn off It's environment if a few years ago
Speaker 1: Sean Coleman and he had cancer growing up, like he
Speaker 1: had cancer as a kid. Yeah, And it was like, well,
Speaker 1: do you have to ding him a couple of runs
Speaker 1: because the chances that that comes back greater for him
Speaker 1: than someone else. And like, Okay, I'm sliding this guy
Speaker 1: down the board thanks to something he's gotten no control over.
Speaker 1: It's a very hard thing to you know, the hard
Speaker 1: pill to swallow, but it's also something that realistically needs
Speaker 1: to happen. One thing I thought about is think about
Speaker 1: the thirty visits who are going to come in. Oh,
Speaker 1: these guys, not only for the teams who are bringing
Speaker 1: these these kids in, but also I'm got to visit
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, and then I've got to visit with
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Then I'm gonna visit with the Lions. Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, the Redskins want to see me, and
Speaker 1: the Panthers want to see me. And then like these
Speaker 1: guys are really visits. They're flying all over the place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you are, if you are on a
Speaker 1: lot of lists like that. I remember, um, and obviously
Speaker 1: he's a top five pick, but teams, teams, you know,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys bringing guys from every round of the draft.
Speaker 1: I just remember in twenty sixteen, z Zeke must have
Speaker 1: hit twelve teams in like in fourteen days he was on.
Speaker 1: I mean, just one thing after another, Like he went
Speaker 1: from Philly to Dallas to wherever the hell else Cleveland
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean that's and and you can't do
Speaker 1: all that in a car. So that's a really interesting
Speaker 1: conversation about how they might have to alter this thing
Speaker 1: if if this virus is really is as contagious as
Speaker 1: it seems to be. It's kind of too late to
Speaker 1: like sit really locate a thirty visit, you know, schedule
Speaker 1: together like a speed dating things like everybody meet at
Speaker 1: the Omahawk Convention Center and we'll give smack dab in
Speaker 1: the middle of the country. You'll give each team a
Speaker 1: table and you just ten minutes. But don't you, like,
Speaker 1: don't you want to talk to the guy? Yes? Especially,
Speaker 1: I mean like I feel like that's very important. I
Speaker 1: don't think you get enough time before you make these solves.
Speaker 1: Isn't then already what they do basically at the combine,
Speaker 1: it's fifteen minutes speed dating, but informal. But that's the
Speaker 1: thing is you don't get you don't get the real
Speaker 1: feel for it. No, and you're limited to forty five guys,
Speaker 1: so you're picking and choosing. Like the thirty visits, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a whole thing. I mean, they're here, they
Speaker 1: spend a night here, they're here for a day and
Speaker 1: a half, they meet everybody, and we talk about this
Speaker 1: every year. They almost always draft guys, especially in the
Speaker 1: first round that they got their hands on and really
Speaker 1: got a feel for when they came here. Also, not
Speaker 1: to mention, of course coaches, just getting to know a guy,
Speaker 1: getting to talk through schemes and boards and kind of
Speaker 1: just look at specific fits. I mean, I know we've
Speaker 1: talked about scheme fit versus best player available and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, but you get to just kind of know
Speaker 1: the guy personally, know what kind of football i Q
Speaker 1: he has, and have kind of just a better overall
Speaker 1: look at these guys instead of just saying, hey, how's
Speaker 1: it going and kind of talk during the NFL combined.
Speaker 1: But we'll put all the coronavirus talk in the rear
Speaker 1: view mirror for now. But I do want to add
Speaker 1: a fourth seed to our big three cs. How about
Speaker 1: comp picks? Because she buried the lead. Yeah, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: another comp pick, so we got a fifth round pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah for Cole Beasley. I said this, I said this
Speaker 1: on the break yesterday. Is you know that that smart
Speaker 1: front office player right there, And it's what I've been
Speaker 1: begging for the Cowboys to do for years, is you
Speaker 1: know you don't have you don't have to spend one
Speaker 1: hundred million in free agency to be aggressive and going
Speaker 1: down going to get Robert Quinn for a sixth round pick,
Speaker 1: a guy who was capable of getting you eleven and
Speaker 1: a half sacks, arguably the best player on your defense
Speaker 1: last year, and they basically got the pick right back.
Speaker 1: You know, I think there's a they they got picked
Speaker 1: one seventy nine in exchange for Beasley, and I believe
Speaker 1: they gave up pick one ninety seven, So you're talking
Speaker 1: about a twenty pick difference, So you're actually you're actually
Speaker 1: picking earlier and on the field getting rid of your
Speaker 1: six And on the field, Cole Beasley gave the Bills
Speaker 1: sixty seven catches, almost eight hundred yards, six touchdowns. Randall
Speaker 1: cob give you fifty five touches, You've have catches over
Speaker 1: eight hundred yards. We're gonna say a copy had a
Speaker 1: very comparable season and one year and five billion dollars
Speaker 1: and Cole Beasley signed a long rom deal and Buffalo
Speaker 1: like it was just the smart, smart play. It's it's
Speaker 1: the type of thing I've been begging for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: to do for years. The one I always go back
Speaker 1: to is like the Eagles swapped draft picks three or
Speaker 1: four years ago for Timmy Jernegan like a highly talented
Speaker 1: guy devalued a little bit, but still a good player,
Speaker 1: and lo and behold, he goes and becomes a big
Speaker 1: part of their rush, you know, during their Super Bowl year.
Speaker 1: That's just that's the type of stuff you have to do,
Speaker 1: and it's it's nice to see the Cowboys pull something
Speaker 1: like that off. They get rewarded for it, so they're
Speaker 1: at their full allotment of draft picks even after trading
Speaker 1: for a pro bowler. Very smart. Hopefully they continue to
Speaker 1: do stuff like that. And it's crazy how overlooked comp
Speaker 1: picks and kind of the strategy and the chess game
Speaker 1: that's around those is kind of It's crazy how overlooked
Speaker 1: it is whenever it comes to the NFL, because look
Speaker 1: at who would you say, over the past twenty years
Speaker 1: has been the best front office? Well, I know the
Speaker 1: answers to these questions. Patriots, Yeah, and they've got four yeah,
Speaker 1: compared to everyone else who's at three or less. But
Speaker 1: who had the most over like the last twenty years. Oh,
Speaker 1: I do not know that question. Arguably, if not the
Speaker 1: Patriots one of the best run front offices in the league. Baltimore,
Speaker 1: they get cop picks every single year they use them
Speaker 1: on good, good players more often than not. I love
Speaker 1: the way they run stuff, but I mean, and it's
Speaker 1: it's a tricky thing to get into because the NFL
Speaker 1: doesn't reveal the formula that's you know, people are asking like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. The Cowboys will get a cop pick for
Speaker 1: Byron Jones if he leaves right, and I'm like, probably,
Speaker 1: but it depends on how much you spend in free agency,
Speaker 1: who you bring in, how much those guys play. But
Speaker 1: I mean, for the size of the deal Byron Jones
Speaker 1: is about to get, it's a pretty good guess that
Speaker 1: they'll get. I would assume a third round pick for
Speaker 1: how much you think Byron's gonna get in like ninety
Speaker 1: million dollars overall seventeen years. I'm about to say you
Speaker 1: tweeted out a couple days ago. I can't remember if
Speaker 1: it was Monday or Tuesday, but you said something along
Speaker 1: the lines of this contract is gonna be crazy for
Speaker 1: Byron Jones. He's gonna be the highest paid cornerback in
Speaker 1: the league. And you know, he only has two picks,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people care about that, and so
Speaker 1: people who don't know his name or Cowboy fans who
Speaker 1: have been watching him for five years and don't think
Speaker 1: that much of him because he doesn't get picks. They're
Speaker 1: going to see that number and freak the hell out.
Speaker 1: But he's going to get a lot of money. It's
Speaker 1: gonna kind of turn around the thought process when it
Speaker 1: comes to corners though, right the fact that it's resetting
Speaker 1: the market and he's not a guy who is. I
Speaker 1: think that depending interest. I think that depends on who
Speaker 1: you talk to, because there's a lot of people our
Speaker 1: dear Jeffrey Cavanaugh. Absolutely, there's a lot of people who
Speaker 1: think the world of him and say, look at his
Speaker 1: coverage numbers, look at what teams do when they target him,
Speaker 1: aka nothing. And then there's just as many people that
Speaker 1: are like, you can't give that much money to somebody
Speaker 1: who doesn't help you get turnovers, and so I think
Speaker 1: people are going to be really split. I mean, you
Speaker 1: go back to twenty eighteen, Byron was named All Pro
Speaker 1: off the strength of a season where he had no picks,
Speaker 1: and I remember at the time, the Cowboys coaching staff
Speaker 1: was impressed and stunned that that that that was possible,
Speaker 1: and they were like, good on everybody in the league
Speaker 1: for watching tape, because if you're not watching the tape,
Speaker 1: you're not realizing what Byron's doing. But he was instrumental
Speaker 1: to the defensive success that year, so I think he's
Speaker 1: worth it. But I don't begrudge people who you know,
Speaker 1: say well, you got to at least get your hands
Speaker 1: on a football, Like, yeah, it's a fair criticism. Well,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like and you mentioned the break earlier.
Speaker 1: We talked about it on Talking Cowboys a little bit
Speaker 1: this week too, and Mickey'spagnola was saying, let's just resign everybody.
Speaker 1: It's kind of different whenever you've got a quarterback that's
Speaker 1: about to get paid and potentially a wide receiver and
Speaker 1: then you've got to shore up the depth defensively. Yeah,
Speaker 1: whenever you've got a guy like that, if this was
Speaker 1: any other off season for the Dallas Cowboys, you would
Speaker 1: probably find a way to keep Byron Jones. He would exactly.
Speaker 1: We'll find that out on And that's kind of where
Speaker 1: I'm leading, is that you don't have that that you
Speaker 1: have to use your tags elsewhere at least so we see,
Speaker 1: And of course, the CBA being decided this weekend, all
Speaker 1: of it being postponed both the CBA vote and also
Speaker 1: the start or the transition tag and franchise tag deadlines
Speaker 1: those being pushed back as well to Monday, and then
Speaker 1: we get into free agency or the legal tampering period
Speaker 1: one second later. Next week is going to be absolutely bonkers.
Speaker 1: And that is before you throw in the wrench of
Speaker 1: the coronavirus, Like you don't know what could happen or
Speaker 1: what could change or I mean, seriously didn't didn't yesterday Wednesday,
Speaker 1: March eleventh. I mean, there were enough stories to fill
Speaker 1: about a month YEP in about an eighteen hour span
Speaker 1: and St. Patrick's Day parade. Who on earth knows what
Speaker 1: could be waiting for us on the other side of
Speaker 1: this weekend. And that's not without thinking that, like the
Speaker 1: NFL is going to do the CBA, the tags, and
Speaker 1: then free agency all in about seventy two hours. It's
Speaker 1: going to be wild. That is wild, and it was
Speaker 1: a little bit eerie to think about. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, that's what you kind of do right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, going into yesterday, to your point, nobody had
Speaker 1: any idea that all of these men's basketball tournaments and
Speaker 1: March Madness tournaments are being canceled. Nobody knew that was
Speaker 1: going to happen going into yesterday. Now there had been
Speaker 1: some rumors. The NBA then got suspended, and then all
Speaker 1: of that kind of ensued. We delayed the CBA voting.
Speaker 1: Is that going to be delayed again or are we
Speaker 1: going to try and get this done before things really
Speaker 1: kind of get out of hand? Which, and I mean,
Speaker 1: I know this isn't directly draft related, but I think it.
Speaker 1: I think it's relevant just because of how much it
Speaker 1: all ties together. It's extremely relevant. And not only I
Speaker 1: mean not only in the sense of like how the
Speaker 1: league might operate, but just from the Cowboys standpoint. Next
Speaker 1: week marks, I mean, they have a lot of work
Speaker 1: to do, really, I mean, obviously they're doing all the
Speaker 1: work on the draft, as are we, but they got
Speaker 1: a lot of work to do in free agency before
Speaker 1: they even know what their strategy needs to be. What's
Speaker 1: the priority in the draft. Yeah, So it's gonna be
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a really interesting seven or eight days here.
Speaker 1: We're finally going to see exactly maybe what that strategy
Speaker 1: could turn into for the Dallas Cowboys, because right now
Speaker 1: we're saying, if Byron's around, you could kind of stretch
Speaker 1: it go safety, maybe even play around at wide receiver
Speaker 1: early in the draft. And then if Byron's gone, I'm
Speaker 1: worried about defensive line. That's another one as well. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's plenty of options and plenty of decisions to be made.
Speaker 1: Once the domino start falling, we might be able to
Speaker 1: piece it together a little bit more in the coming weeks.
Speaker 1: Hopefully in the coming weeks when we come back Twitter
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Speaker 1: take a look at Twitter on the twenty Twitter on
Speaker 1: the twenty way. Of course, a big week of decisions
Speaker 1: throughout for the Dallas Cowboys in really the NFL in general,
Speaker 1: with all of the different speculations and whatnot going through
Speaker 1: whenever it comes to the coronavirus and then CBA like
Speaker 1: we talked about in that first segment. But I want
Speaker 1: to ask a Dave Hellman question. Oh boy, this is
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it simple for you, please do this
Speaker 1: guy doesn't have a name on Twitter. Okay, oh he
Speaker 1: doesn't even have a picture of anything. But I think
Speaker 1: I don't even know who this basketball play. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: Crusoe from the Lakers. Is this profile picture? This is
Speaker 1: an egg? It's a Twitter egg. No, maybe wide receiver
Speaker 1: at seventeen or riot go. I mean, is that a
Speaker 1: question rioting? And it depends on it honestly depends on
Speaker 1: what happened. I mean, it's sat there is there is
Speaker 1: smoke that a Marie Cooper could be signed before he
Speaker 1: hits free agency. That's that's separate from the question of
Speaker 1: like a tag or anything like that. I mean, if
Speaker 1: a Marie Cooper is not on this team, then hell yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean they need they need to draft a receiver,
Speaker 1: and they need one that can make an instant impact.
Speaker 1: That's prop Honestly, that's Jerry Judy and Ceedee Lamb are
Speaker 1: the two that I'm just no doubt whatsoever that they
Speaker 1: could make a rookie impact. I don't even know if
Speaker 1: I trust Rugs to do that. I don't either in
Speaker 1: a receiver corps where there's no Amari Cooper to lean on,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I trust him to be to
Speaker 1: be the number one to be that guy. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so yeah, if if Cooper's not on this team, then
Speaker 1: I think that skyrockets to the top of your priority list.
Speaker 1: Having said that, I think he is on this team
Speaker 1: one way or another, by hooker, by crook. I think
Speaker 1: they find a way to keep him here. Let's play
Speaker 1: it that way. Then, Okay, Cooper's here. Yeah, wide receiver
Speaker 1: or right. And that's that's what I keep going back to. Obviously,
Speaker 1: like team forty Burger, I love to talk about it.
Speaker 1: I'm very intrigued by it. I wouldn't hate that pick,
Speaker 1: but there's just so many other things they need to do.
Speaker 1: This wide receiver class is so deep seven. I mean,
Speaker 1: if Cede Lamb is there, if he falls all the way,
Speaker 1: which I don't really believe. It looks like he had
Speaker 1: a really nice prote yesterday in Norman made another circus
Speaker 1: catch um, it would be tough. And that's I mean.
Speaker 1: So you're like a wide receiver arguably the best wide
Speaker 1: receiver in the class, or cornerback number two CJ. Henderson,
Speaker 1: safety number one, Grant Delpit, who you know, maybe you
Speaker 1: don't feel great about him at that spot. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's the debate. See, if I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: reaching for a player, then I have no problem doing that.
Speaker 1: But like, but by how much of a reach, though,
Speaker 1: Like everybody's like, oh, trade back to twenty six and
Speaker 1: take Delpit there and how to pick, Like, Okay, that's
Speaker 1: great in theory, but like, what if you can't it's
Speaker 1: easy to talk about that hardly ever happened. And if Grant,
Speaker 1: if Grant Delpit's good enough to take a twenty four,
Speaker 1: is it like this stupid to believe that. I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I think positional depth in the draft does matter, and
Speaker 1: we know that Will McClay, at least in his tenure,
Speaker 1: has taken a real good look at that depth in
Speaker 1: the draft and how they've map things out as you should,
Speaker 1: and but sometimes to their detriment, yes, but sometimes it's
Speaker 1: been okay as well. I mean, it's funny because the
Speaker 1: Taco pick was a failure. But the strategy we talked
Speaker 1: about this on a previous show, The strategy work. The strategy.
Speaker 1: They got two cornerbacks capable of contributing right away in
Speaker 1: the second and third round. They just didn't draft the
Speaker 1: right defensive end. But and that's kind of my point,
Speaker 1: is we all agree that you could find a receiver
Speaker 1: capable of contributing right away as late as like the
Speaker 1: fourth round. Yeah, I don't feel I really I don't
Speaker 1: love this safety class beyond Grant Delpit, Xavier McKinney, Ashton Davis.
Speaker 1: I'll throw in Kyle Dugger, even though I don't think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will draft him in obviously, Antoine Winfield, I
Speaker 1: don't even know about that. Okay, that's I don't I
Speaker 1: don't feel great if you don't draft the safety at seventeen.
Speaker 1: I don't feel great about a guy I love being
Speaker 1: there at fifty one. Like I don't know if yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't giving up on a
Speaker 1: potential starter if you don't draft safety at seven. And
Speaker 1: so that's my point is, I think, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: didn't mean to cut you off, but I can get
Speaker 1: a badass receiver at pick eighty two. I know I can.
Speaker 1: I think last year was kind of an eye opener
Speaker 1: and how teams feel about the safety position in general. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you saw those guys kind of fall the Taylor
Speaker 1: Rap and one Thorne Hill and Nasir Adelie, we saw, now,
Speaker 1: I'm you're baking on that to happen again, and that's
Speaker 1: that's risky business. It is, and we've seen teams really
Speaker 1: go pay safeties. Earl Thomas, the honey Badger. We've seen him.
Speaker 1: You guys get paid at the safety position. This team
Speaker 1: is refrained from taking safeties for a long time now,
Speaker 1: but I don't see them spending a premium pick on
Speaker 1: a safety. And that's I've been saying it. I've been
Speaker 1: saying that for weeks. It's like, if if Grant Delpit's
Speaker 1: not as good as Derwin James, then why should I
Speaker 1: believe that they're going to draft him at seventeen. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, another LSU guy, Tyron Math, you
Speaker 1: just showed you the value of a versatile safety with
Speaker 1: ball skills, because like safety doesn't even do the position
Speaker 1: justice because Tymer Matthew played about five spots for the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: and I think Grant Delpit could do that too. I've
Speaker 1: whittled it down to one guy I'm excited about at seventeen,
Speaker 1: and it's dangerous because he probably won't be there. You
Speaker 1: got kin Law, And you know what I do this
Speaker 1: most every year that the Cowboys are picking right in
Speaker 1: the middle. I whittle it down to guys I'm excited
Speaker 1: about it that area. I don't mind being in the middle.
Speaker 1: It's not a good spot. You whittle it down to
Speaker 1: one player. Well it was Hey, it was little dead
Speaker 1: to two players and Zach Martiniere and it was Ryan
Speaker 1: Shazier and Zach martin I was like, oh, yeah, great.
Speaker 1: I mean no, it will be. It will be whittled
Speaker 1: down by April. But like right now, I just think
Speaker 1: there's too many possibilities for me to zero in on
Speaker 1: one guy. To answer the question more directly, I would
Speaker 1: be excited, but well, you're not gonna riot. I mean no,
Speaker 1: I would be excited if they picked the receiver, but
Speaker 1: if they don't, that's a responsible strategy. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be mad about it. Well they I feel way better
Speaker 1: about Team forty Burger happening with McCarthy then with Garrett
Speaker 1: here because Garrett did not want to play that way.
Speaker 1: That's a great point. That's a great point. But Dave,
Speaker 1: kind of going back to what you said kind of
Speaker 1: early on where you were talking about safeties that you
Speaker 1: weren't really excited about fifty one. You threw out some names,
Speaker 1: but one name he didn't throw out was Antoine Winfield Junior.
Speaker 1: I know you said he would be there at fifty one.
Speaker 1: I threw him in at the very end when you
Speaker 1: brought up Chin. He's in that mix because a lot
Speaker 1: and this is it's the funny, the funny thing about
Speaker 1: the draft, to Katie's point, like we were in love
Speaker 1: with with Thornhill and Rap and there was another one
Speaker 1: love with Xavier Woods and Desmond King and those guys
Speaker 1: went in the sixth and seventh round. All those guys fall,
Speaker 1: They fell last year, So it's conceivable. I know people
Speaker 1: that don't think Winfield is a top fifty pick because
Speaker 1: of his length. He's five nine big. I think there
Speaker 1: are people that think he was so impressive at the
Speaker 1: combine and you add that to what he's got on
Speaker 1: tape and they're like, this guy doesn't fall out of
Speaker 1: the top. You know he doesn't. He's picked forty five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there's no way to know for sure. I'd be
Speaker 1: ecstatic to draft Antoine Winfield at fifty one, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't feel great that he will be there for
Speaker 1: you See, I'm kind of in the same boat. I've
Speaker 1: yet to find anyone who could come up and look
Speaker 1: me in the eye and give me anything aside from
Speaker 1: size and injury history that's concerning about him. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: everything else is exciting. All IQ is there I mean,
Speaker 1: his dad was a fourteen year veteran in the league,
Speaker 1: and he literally and I've got a story coming out
Speaker 1: on the Blitz later this week, but he literally would
Speaker 1: sit in bed and watch tape with his dad at
Speaker 1: eleven years old of his dad trying to cover Calvin
Speaker 1: Johnson trying to cover Bancatron. So he got a football
Speaker 1: IQ lesson from such an early age that he might
Speaker 1: be one of the smartest in terms of draft prospects,
Speaker 1: football IQ and knowing when and where to be in
Speaker 1: the entire draft. I think his time at the combat
Speaker 1: I think you're in a four eight, which you know
Speaker 1: for safety that's actually not too bad. But like you
Speaker 1: watch you on tape and you're like, Okay, he's moving
Speaker 1: pretty fast here, Like he's moving around, he sees plays fast.
Speaker 1: He's a pretty good tack where he will hit. He
Speaker 1: plays with attitude, he has bull skills. You know, to me,
Speaker 1: the size is a problem, and we all know that
Speaker 1: the size is a problem. But so there's some things
Speaker 1: you just can't, Like, you can't have everything you want.
Speaker 1: You're not in a lab making robots here. Look, he's
Speaker 1: five nine. I don't know what to tell you. You You either,
Speaker 1: okay with it or you're not. And a lot of
Speaker 1: teams are not gonna be okay with it. I'm personally
Speaker 1: okay with it because of the other things. He actually
Speaker 1: ran at the combine. He actually ran a four four five.
Speaker 1: He had to say he was really good. He had
Speaker 1: a fav combine. I haven't updated my spring time on him,
Speaker 1: which a four five eight. He's one of my, you know,
Speaker 1: five to ten favorite prospects in the whole draft. I
Speaker 1: would be ecstatic. It's it's just interesting how teams value
Speaker 1: these guys, though, because I'm thinking about Taylor Rapp. We
Speaker 1: spent the whole spring saying he won't even be there.
Speaker 1: He goes three picks after the Cowboys pick last year,
Speaker 1: and then another one that always comes to mind. Kat,
Speaker 1: you're Green Bay Packers. Remember how much we liked Darnell Savage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we liked him as like a third round pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fourth for me. They made him. They traded up a thirty,
Speaker 1: they made him a first round pick up, They traded
Speaker 1: up from thirty to go up to twenty one and
Speaker 1: get him. There's just and he was great. No, and
Speaker 1: he hit a great year. There's no way. But there's
Speaker 1: just no way to know how these teams value these guys,
Speaker 1: and you know, you never know, like because and there's
Speaker 1: also and you know, Taylor Rap had medical issues that
Speaker 1: that you know, weren't highly publicized. And he was slow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he was slow and it was but the Sire
Speaker 1: Adderley fluid mover. The big knock on him was he
Speaker 1: played at Delaware. You know, that was the kind of
Speaker 1: thing with him, and did he want to tackle? And
Speaker 1: he slides and you know, get information in all kinds
Speaker 1: of different ways. But I heard the great line that
Speaker 1: you know, this team here for Darnell Savage was day three. No,
Speaker 1: they were terribly excited. They didn't know what the hell
Speaker 1: the Packers were doing. Ye. Yeah, So it's it's it's curious.
Speaker 1: I mean, between his tape and what he did at
Speaker 1: the combine. I mean, hey, I'm five six. I don't
Speaker 1: give it. I don't care at all that uh that
Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield's five nine bring them on well kind of
Speaker 1: going at least name wise with the first question. The
Speaker 1: first question was wide receiver or riot. The name of
Speaker 1: this Twitter account is draft CD for another TDUM, So
Speaker 1: that's the the legitimate name, and it's got some emojis
Speaker 1: on there, but it doesn't have anything to do with
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Who can the Cowboys afford to pass on more?
Speaker 1: I think I might know Katie's answer to this question,
Speaker 1: Javon kin Law or CJ. Henderson since the interior defensive
Speaker 1: line and cornerback class is not very deep. Kind of
Speaker 1: going along with the same thing we were talking about
Speaker 1: with the safeties. But who's the who's the worst one
Speaker 1: to pass on? You want to go first? Well, part
Speaker 1: of it does? I have kin Lall graded way higher
Speaker 1: than C. J. Henderson, So let's put it that way first.
Speaker 1: So that's one part of it. I think there's an
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown component in free agency that we'll find out. Yep,
Speaker 1: if they're going to be willing to if he will
Speaker 1: take it might be up to him how much he
Speaker 1: wants to be here, you know, maybe one of those
Speaker 1: type of things. Um, And if it feels like Byron's gone,
Speaker 1: I still think you can get a cornerback in the
Speaker 1: second round. That would be to your liking. There's a
Speaker 1: chance to cornerback slide a little bit. And I don't
Speaker 1: think Trevon Diggs gets there, but there's a chance he does.
Speaker 1: I don't think Christian Fulton falls that far, but I
Speaker 1: think there's a chance. I don't think it's nuts fifty one.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's nuts. Man. There's six guys. There
Speaker 1: are really five guys? Are all the corners everyone's been
Speaker 1: talking about? Right, there's no ways the Damon Arnette in
Speaker 1: there and make that six? So okay, Damon Arnette could
Speaker 1: fall that far. Okay, Yeah, absolutely he could, especially considering
Speaker 1: there's off the field question him as well. That was
Speaker 1: my point. But Diggs and Trevon Diggs and Christian Fulton,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're not falling out of the top fifty.
Speaker 1: Most likely not. But just just play with me, may
Speaker 1: I'll play along, aren't it? Okay? And there's there's six guys.
Speaker 1: You like the Auburn guy, Yes, there we go, No way, no, Noah?
Speaker 1: His name? Say to these guys name people know the
Speaker 1: hell your nut of what? I always refrain from saying
Speaker 1: his name. I just say the Yeah, it's got like
Speaker 1: twelve letters in it. So so there's seven guys. I
Speaker 1: just threw at you guys. All right, seven guys, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a cornerback drafted once every seven picks in
Speaker 1: this draft because that's if you're picking up pick fifty one,
Speaker 1: that's what you gotta have one ever seven picks. So
Speaker 1: there's gonna be there's gonna be six offensive lineman yan.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be four quarterbacks for sure gone in the
Speaker 1: first round. Most likely there's going to be wide receivers taken.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're in a situation where you can
Speaker 1: get a cornerback at fifty one. That would be pleasing
Speaker 1: if it'sive tackle. You know, who do you like? Do
Speaker 1: you like the Jordan Elliott Neville Gallimore type, Jordan Elliot
Speaker 1: from Missouri, Neiville Gallin from ok Do you like that
Speaker 1: type at fifty one more than you like one of
Speaker 1: these corners. Justin Mattabuque is the name that I think
Speaker 1: you should have circled. I think so too. I think
Speaker 1: you should have him circled for early second round. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he might not be there, he's on my not get
Speaker 1: to fire. Both Justin Metabec out of AMM and then
Speaker 1: Ross black Clock from TCU. I think both of those
Speaker 1: guys who we had our eyes on and circled early,
Speaker 1: I think they're inching up away and out of reach,
Speaker 1: which is unfortunately. Here's where I go back to is
Speaker 1: I and we don't know. There's no way to know.
Speaker 1: But this team has so little in the way of
Speaker 1: defensive tackles they can't afford to not do work in
Speaker 1: free agency. And the interior defensive line crop in free
Speaker 1: agency is so much better than the cornerback crop. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: you go down the list after there's about three names
Speaker 1: on the cornerback free agent list that pique your interest,
Speaker 1: and one of them you're letting way. I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: one of them you're letting leaves. Yeah, Chris Harris is
Speaker 1: out there that could be a little out of the
Speaker 1: Cowboys price range. Maybe you bring back Anthony Brown. Bashad
Speaker 1: Breland is a name that's intriguing to me, but like exactly,
Speaker 1: I mean, well, you know what, he's got history with McCarthy. No,
Speaker 1: for sure, and it's possible, but it's it's not a
Speaker 1: name that gets you excited. My point being, I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys can address their d tackle needs a little
Speaker 1: bit better in free agency than cornerback, which is why
Speaker 1: I cannot discount C. J. Henderson simply because it feels
Speaker 1: like the perfect mesh of value and need in the censure.
Speaker 1: We need a guy you know he'll be under contract
Speaker 1: for five years. He can start right away if he
Speaker 1: needs to. And it fits like I mean, he's the
Speaker 1: second or third best cornerback in the draft. That's exactly
Speaker 1: you know, seventeen sounds exactly right. And the position group's
Speaker 1: gonna have to be remade either way because next year
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis and Cheetah are going to be free agents.
Speaker 1: And I guess another thing, I would say, there's really
Speaker 1: no point in having verbal warfare over this Twitter on
Speaker 1: the twenty question, considering that it's a question that's best
Speaker 1: would be best answered with more information. You know that
Speaker 1: in two weeks two weeks, I can help you out here.
Speaker 1: And really, when he's not having enough information ever stopped us.
Speaker 1: If you're taking Henderson over kin Law, it better be
Speaker 1: because ken Law's knees are up, because ken Law is
Speaker 1: a better player than Henderson, just big boarding, stacking them
Speaker 1: up like Ken Laws the guy you better be high.
Speaker 1: To me, that's a weird thing to pass up right there.
Speaker 1: If ken Henderson doesn't touch the upside that Ken Law has,
Speaker 1: if not even close. If ken Law's knee checks out,
Speaker 1: don't you feel like he's gone in the top fifteen. Anyway,
Speaker 1: he's probably not gonna be there. I do, And I
Speaker 1: think that makes the wide receiver thing become a little
Speaker 1: more of a topic. See, and here's what I was
Speaker 1: going to kind of pull up here, and we talked
Speaker 1: about safety a moment ago. We talked a little bit
Speaker 1: of wide receiver in that first segment. But if if
Speaker 1: we're looking at CJ. Henderson or javon Kinlaw and then
Speaker 1: looking at the remainder of the draft, I think it's
Speaker 1: not out of the question that you would say neither
Speaker 1: one of these guys were drafted in the first round
Speaker 1: at seventeen, even if they're both there because years maybe
Speaker 1: a wide receiver that peaks interest. There's other positional needs
Speaker 1: you can fill defensive tackle and free agency, you can
Speaker 1: fill a cornerback spot in the second round of the draft.
Speaker 1: You're you guys are talking me into the fact that
Speaker 1: safety or wide receiver and seventeen is not as crazy
Speaker 1: as we were kind of thinking, or I was thinking
Speaker 1: coming into the show, just because the sole fact that
Speaker 1: that I was I'm still sold by the way that
Speaker 1: wide receiver is not going to be there at seventeen.
Speaker 1: That's not what the Cowboys are gonna pick. I'm sold
Speaker 1: on that. I don't think that's happening. But safety this
Speaker 1: kind of makes me think that it might be safer
Speaker 1: to go with a safety at seventeen, try and get
Speaker 1: a cornerback instead of C. J. Henderson in the second round.
Speaker 1: I just don't think they'll do that. I think they'll
Speaker 1: party at safety and free Agency. I hate they'll look around.
Speaker 1: And I also, I don't know. I could be wrong.
Speaker 1: It's a whole new, whole new regimes. It's hard to
Speaker 1: answer questions. Would anybody be surprised if Jeff Heath is
Speaker 1: your starting safety next year? No, no, I know that's
Speaker 1: gonna crack. Everyone's not. I wouldn't be surprised. Turned into hypnosis,
Speaker 1: but like, like seriously, it wouldn't be nuts if like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know what the safety value the guy we like
Speaker 1: didn't fall into our labs. So we went because you
Speaker 1: know they're gonna address up front, and you know they're
Speaker 1: gonna address cornerback. Gonna hell, that's gonna happen. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have a close well, assuming it happens with the coronavirus
Speaker 1: and everything. But LSU is a late a late protame
Speaker 1: superl it's like April. It's April third. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have a close eye on it if it happens, because
Speaker 1: I think people are people are down on Grant delpit
Speaker 1: right now, but when he works out, oh my god,
Speaker 1: and the media is always behind the pros, right, like
Speaker 1: the pros don't need to see that. But when he
Speaker 1: works out, I think he's going to he's gonna vault
Speaker 1: back into the conversation because he's gonna put up some
Speaker 1: freaky numbers. I think that'll be fun to watch. Let's
Speaker 1: do two more quick questions right, first one, what is
Speaker 1: the latest round you believe the Cowboys could draft a
Speaker 1: guy that is starting come September? Just period, period, I
Speaker 1: mean any position I always. I mean I think of
Speaker 1: the top one hundred picks, as you know, they should
Speaker 1: be contributing heavily, if not starting. I mean Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: started from day one is pick eighty one, but try
Speaker 1: and Hill barely played as pick fifty eight. So I mean,
Speaker 1: if if you're doing your job right, I think the
Speaker 1: first three rounds should be starter caliber and then your
Speaker 1: fourth round pick has a has a chance depending on
Speaker 1: what position he play is what the need is, could
Speaker 1: you get a fourth round wide receiver. That's starting. I
Speaker 1: think that's that's sort I was about to go. That's
Speaker 1: kind of where I think this question is leading. If
Speaker 1: Cobb doesn't come back, then I think you're kJ Hill
Speaker 1: from Ohio State DuVernay from Texas. You would love that.
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman, Michael Pittman's USC. I think they'll like John
Speaker 1: high Tower from Boise State. Yea is a gimmicky guy.
Speaker 1: You know, those are kind of Van Jefferson got hurt.
Speaker 1: He may fall a little bit, the wider super from Florida.
Speaker 1: Van Jefferson and man excellent route runner. But he's hurt
Speaker 1: a little bit. We could dock him a little bit.
Speaker 1: We know, surprised. We know the Cowboys full order now,
Speaker 1: by the way, thank goodness. So I think pick one
Speaker 1: twenty three is their fourth round pick. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: know we saw them go yeah. Once I'll check it
Speaker 1: for you. You'll have you'll have a good player there.
Speaker 1: It's my point, Yes, you will. So this is just
Speaker 1: pure reading between the lines, pure hunch. But I think
Speaker 1: Randall cop is back. I think he's back on a
Speaker 1: similar deal, maybe worth a little bit more. And so
Speaker 1: I don't think any unless they go at pick seventeen
Speaker 1: or fifty one, Like, I don't think a receiver that
Speaker 1: they draft would start. But you know, Mikole Hardman, he
Speaker 1: was the second round pick for the Chiefs last year,
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily start, but was a valuable piece of that
Speaker 1: offense as their speed guy or another speed guy because
Speaker 1: they got a million of them. And kind of going
Speaker 1: back to Randall Cop really quickly here out of this
Speaker 1: past season. Of course, it's easy to fall in love
Speaker 1: with this wide receiver class. I mean all of us
Speaker 1: here have done, so we've fallen in love with this
Speaker 1: wide receiver class. But a lot of people forget the
Speaker 1: kind of year that Randall Cop have it, especially at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. Did anybody have worse luck
Speaker 1: than Randall Cop. It seemed like every touchdown, every catch
Speaker 1: that he had, yeah, was just called back for a penalty.
Speaker 1: He had I think two or three touchdowns all back.
Speaker 1: He at least two in the first like month of this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was real early and a lot of people forget
Speaker 1: about that. He had a He had a nice season.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean to dog him because I thought
Speaker 1: he played really well, but he all like him and
Speaker 1: Dak could not get on the same page in the
Speaker 1: crucial moments. He drops third down drop in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: That kind of changed the cops. Being the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: there are some others if I think about him, Um,
Speaker 1: are you talking about to dive in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: in the end zone or now that was the first quarter. No,
Speaker 1: that wasn't quarter, third, third and five. It was a
Speaker 1: crossing route and I mean Dak threw it a little
Speaker 1: behind him, but it was definitely a catchable pass. He's
Speaker 1: always been a guy that They'll have some drops, so
Speaker 1: it may not be a starter, but like impactful. You
Speaker 1: can think tied that We saw them go tied in
Speaker 1: there a couple of years ago. A Dalton Schultz. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they have a better chance of getting a
Speaker 1: better tight end in that fourth round area because there's
Speaker 1: Titans aren't top heavy, but they will start going. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be round through round four. Maybe I gotta keep
Speaker 1: an eye on. I think he's a pretty good rout
Speaker 1: running tight end and I think they met like because
Speaker 1: he could block a little bit too. Bryson Hopkins of Purdue,
Speaker 1: It's a guy I kind of like in that fourth round.
Speaker 1: You know that range right there or if he's sitting there.
Speaker 1: You go, man, I might as well take this guy.
Speaker 1: And then I got Hopkins and jar One and let's go. Granted,
Speaker 1: we still don't know what's gonna happen with Whitton, but man,
Speaker 1: you look at Hopkins. Last year, sixty one catches had
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns. You guys saw him at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: Of course, fifteen yards of catch. Get down the field
Speaker 1: a little bit. They're gonna try to get down the field.
Speaker 1: They're gonna try to be a faster offense. It's just
Speaker 1: gonna be a little different than it was. McCarthy is
Speaker 1: going to try to put up a thirty and forty burgers,
Speaker 1: let's go. You know. So that's the type of pick
Speaker 1: I would kind of like if Hopkins or someone like
Speaker 1: that was still on the board. I know we've talked
Speaker 1: a little bit about Harrison Bryant from Atlantic, Yeah, FAU,
Speaker 1: you know that area. Maybe those guys could help you
Speaker 1: a little bit. But Hopkins is killmore route running, get
Speaker 1: a little swivel to his game, and I'd be highly
Speaker 1: interested in him if he were to fold to the
Speaker 1: fourth round, as it helped me there as a helper
Speaker 1: one twenty three. Yeah, I'm trying to think if there's
Speaker 1: any defensive players that could you know, Malike Collins star
Speaker 1: right away as a third round ship that was pick
Speaker 1: sixty seven, though it's a much higher pick. But you know,
Speaker 1: if a defensive tackle were to fall, you know, that's
Speaker 1: kind of a range too. And maybe I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: little further down on the guy than than like Jeff,
Speaker 1: Like Jeff loves the guy. But Terrell Burgess safety from Utah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he could get to the fourth round. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Looking at the safety class, the safety class,
Speaker 1: if I I kind of think it's gonna stretch a
Speaker 1: little bit because the Ashton Davis is of the world,
Speaker 1: the Cayle Dugger, Jeremy Chen, you know, some of those
Speaker 1: guys could push it to maybe be one of the
Speaker 1: fourth round safety that you like. And Troll Burgess is
Speaker 1: kind of my fourth round safety. Got I've got to
Speaker 1: highlight it is okay, I would go there. His length
Speaker 1: makes me nervous. His finish on tackles makes me nervous.
Speaker 1: Although Twitter Draft Twitter got all in my face tell
Speaker 1: me he's a reliable tackler. I think he's an okay tackler.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's reliable tackle. I think he's an
Speaker 1: okay tackler who doesn't need to be playing up near
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage at all. There's anything I've learned
Speaker 1: about draft Twitter, it's that you can find an opinion
Speaker 1: on every player, like somebody hates everyone and somebody loves everyone.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, just the way it goes. It all just
Speaker 1: piles on sixty seconds. One final question, Okay, what do
Speaker 1: you think of the Dallas Cowboys taking a linebacker and
Speaker 1: Ken and Murray out of Oklahoma in the first round
Speaker 1: after a report that they have a meeting scheduled with him.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why, Okay, I don't want to if
Speaker 1: you're going three four, I'm okay with it. I just
Speaker 1: that's why I don't think meetings always mean everything, because
Speaker 1: I just think teams do their due diligence. I don't
Speaker 1: want to discount it completely, but man, we talked about
Speaker 1: this in Indied that just and I get it. It's
Speaker 1: fair to worry about Layton vander esch'sil It's very fair.
Speaker 1: I don't think you should buy the line that he's
Speaker 1: one hundred percent okay and everything's fine. You don't have
Speaker 1: to believe that. You know, I'm not here to sell
Speaker 1: you propaganda, but I need more evidence that he can't
Speaker 1: stay healthy before I'm ready to just pull the plug.
Speaker 1: And that's what drafting a first round linebacker is to me, Like, well,
Speaker 1: this this guy just he can't stay healthy easy. You know.
Speaker 1: It was a bad pick and we need to fix
Speaker 1: it right away. Like that's what a first round pick
Speaker 1: would signal to me if you took Kenneth Murray or
Speaker 1: Patrick Queen. I mean, so, either you're saying you don't
Speaker 1: think Layton's gonna play, or you have so little faith
Speaker 1: that you need a premium backup right now. I don't
Speaker 1: like the idea of that at all. If you want,
Speaker 1: you know what I would love, you know, Anthony Hitchins
Speaker 1: was a fourth round pick, Sure find me that guy
Speaker 1: even at those for you, man, if the value lines
Speaker 1: up in the third round to where you say, yeah,
Speaker 1: a linebackers not a huge need, but this guy can play, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. But a first round pick on
Speaker 1: a position where you just drafted Layton, you got him
Speaker 1: for three more years, if you pick up his option
Speaker 1: and you just paid Jalen, that just leaves a really
Speaker 1: bad taste in my mouth. Mike McCarthy says he wants
Speaker 1: good football players. Kenneth Murray's a really good football player.
Speaker 1: I mean that would go three four things could get interested.
Speaker 1: That would on rushing. That would be the ultimate could
Speaker 1: be interest. It would be the ultimate signal that McCarthy
Speaker 1: means what he says. Yeah, if they were to take
Speaker 1: ultimate test of BPA best player available, rather have a
Speaker 1: defensive bands fair, we're gonna take. When we come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get a little bit wild here in that
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Speaker 1: It's down to me and Kati because Dave has scurried
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Speaker 1: back here in just a couple of moments, and it's
Speaker 1: time to get into some reckless comps. And Katie, you
Speaker 1: you brought up this idea a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: We didn't get a chance to get to it, just
Speaker 1: solely based on the act of we're trying to get
Speaker 1: into our stock up stock down. When it came to
Speaker 1: the NFL combine, but this is a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Kind of explain the reasoning behind a reckless comp Yeah.
Speaker 1: The premise is that, you know, there are some people
Speaker 1: who don't like to do comps. By comps, I mean
Speaker 1: player comparisons, And I'm not like a big fan of like, hey,
Speaker 1: there's a player of comparison. Oh, it's the same person,
Speaker 1: because I think it sets on realistic expectations. But I
Speaker 1: do think sometimes when you're watching tape on these guys,
Speaker 1: you'll go, he reminds me of him, and he reminds
Speaker 1: me of him. So I like doing reckless comps, so
Speaker 1: I like being a little bit reckless some spear into
Speaker 1: the skid, yeah kind of feel. So it's like, basically,
Speaker 1: it's I've got a listen to about seven or eight
Speaker 1: guys that I've seen him. When I watched him on tape,
Speaker 1: I wrote down on my notes he kind of reminds
Speaker 1: me of this, And that's just something. If you guys
Speaker 1: have some of your own, feel free to throw him
Speaker 1: out there. The first one that I have is, trust me,
Speaker 1: it's not the same thing at all. Oh gosh, but
Speaker 1: that's not being reckless. There's a few things that remind
Speaker 1: me of Teddy Bridgewater and Jake From. And I am
Speaker 1: not a Jake From a fan. I think going to
Speaker 1: pick him in round two, I think that's a wasted pick. Okay,
Speaker 1: But some of the things and the question marks that
Speaker 1: were coming out about Teddy Bridgewater, some of the things
Speaker 1: that you talked about him, well, was his arm strength.
Speaker 1: It's not there is not enough arm strength, but pretty
Speaker 1: good touch, pretty good accuracy. You look at him in college,
Speaker 1: oh you had they had a bunch of you know,
Speaker 1: eight man boxes. You know, he had to deal with
Speaker 1: that a lot. Kind of see that with Jake From
Speaker 1: a little bit we watched on tape. Some of the
Speaker 1: same questions about him. You have size issues with him,
Speaker 1: you have arm strength questions with him, but accuracy, game
Speaker 1: manager type, those type of stereotypes. I mean I kind
Speaker 1: of see the same thing exactly what Jake From is.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean with the running backs he played with,
Speaker 1: that's no surprise and that's yeah. I never He's the
Speaker 1: classic case of like I don't know, if you're if
Speaker 1: you're a quarterback that's worth draft drafting high, then I
Speaker 1: should see you like really elevate your team, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like elevate make plays that out of
Speaker 1: this world plays carry your team to wins that maybe
Speaker 1: they shouldn't have had otherwise. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: ever saw that from Jake From I think you occasionally
Speaker 1: saw that with Justin Herbert and Oregon. Yeah. Uh. It's
Speaker 1: a little more difficult with Utah State because when Utah
Speaker 1: State's coach left it when went to Texas Tech, Jordan
Speaker 1: Love was not left with much to work with it
Speaker 1: Utah State. I mean, that's that's a tough part of
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I mean I remember thinking similar things about
Speaker 1: Jared Goff. Honestly, it was like, is cal really accomplishing
Speaker 1: as much as they should be? If Jared Goff is
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick, that's all? And that's always
Speaker 1: just dangerous, like go trust what you're watching type thing.
Speaker 1: When I watched Jake from I don't always see a
Speaker 1: guy who is as accurate as you may read about,
Speaker 1: you know, I was like watching it going even even
Speaker 1: that the combine I ask consistent as people really make
Speaker 1: them out to be, he's not. He's not a lot
Speaker 1: on accuracy, and that's kind of one thing I've had
Speaker 1: to knock on him too. There's there's throws every down
Speaker 1: again where it's like, what are you doing? Yeah, Bridgewater
Speaker 1: was a much better college player. Again, That's why it's
Speaker 1: a reckless comp There's gotta be a lot of criteria
Speaker 1: that goes along with this. Let's move it along to
Speaker 1: the next one. Hit me, Clyde Edwards Hilaire from LSU
Speaker 1: there running back to go Tigers. I see Devonte Freeman. Really,
Speaker 1: you don't see DeVante Freed at all. Tough runner, able
Speaker 1: to kind of jump cut, getting lateral. Sometimes he will
Speaker 1: run through people. He's a bowling ball. And then no
Speaker 1: one really talks about his hands too much, like they're
Speaker 1: talking about how much of a runner is you know what.
Speaker 1: Coming out of Florida State, no one really talked about
Speaker 1: Davante Freeman as a pass catcher. They quickly learned, oh
Speaker 1: wait he can, yeah, because he went to the Falcons
Speaker 1: and they started to use him. So I think Clyde
Speaker 1: Edwards Hilaire Davonte Freeman makes a lot of sense. I
Speaker 1: think he probably goes you know, round two. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go real snob on you real quick. It's Elaire. Oh dude,
Speaker 1: trust me, I've ever been one of those like pronunciation police.
Speaker 1: I'm from the country man, I pronounced toilet toolet Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like I like it. I still choose day man.
Speaker 1: It's fine. I'm not professional broadcaster guy. I've never been that.
Speaker 1: I saw. I saw a mock draft that had Clyde
Speaker 1: going to the chiefs as if they need another weapon. Man,
Speaker 1: that's got fun. That would be really, that would be
Speaker 1: really fun to watch. I like. No, I like that
Speaker 1: comp a lot because I mean Freeman really he came
Speaker 1: on so much because of his abilities as a pass catcher,
Speaker 1: and I absolutely see Clyde doing something similar. I've always
Speaker 1: kind of looked at Clyde as a guy almost like
Speaker 1: a Frank Gore type, where it's kind of just a
Speaker 1: stocky bowling ball, and I know he's a little bit
Speaker 1: more lateral to go Gore's straight line straight up the middle.
Speaker 1: And I don't think they running size, but I'm talking
Speaker 1: about size in general. I think it just kind of
Speaker 1: That's what it reminded me on tape. Now, if you
Speaker 1: want to get a little bit more, go for it, Clyde.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I get it. It's an easy it's
Speaker 1: too easy because they're both short. But Clyde just reminds
Speaker 1: me of darren Sproles impossible to tackle a low center
Speaker 1: of gravity. Yeah, all of his strength is in his
Speaker 1: lower body. Can cut on a dime, pieces catches the
Speaker 1: ball well, I mean Sprawls especial. I mean he's been
Speaker 1: great everywhere, but man, he was so Sprawls is a
Speaker 1: little thinner though, isn't he He's I mean Sprawls is
Speaker 1: even smaller than Sure. Yeah, you know, but just their
Speaker 1: games are so similar to I just less gimmicky. I mean,
Speaker 1: Clyde is more of a every down and back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he can do that. You know, look at me at
Speaker 1: fifty five catches last year. He showed on tape that
Speaker 1: he could be a pass catcher. You know what. Devantae
Speaker 1: Freeman come out of college. I think he had about
Speaker 1: that many catches in three years at Florida stew I
Speaker 1: mean he never had a year of more than twenty catches.
Speaker 1: I mean he got to the NFL and I remember
Speaker 1: we were watching him. I loved him coming out of
Speaker 1: the draft. It was at twenty fourteen or whatever year
Speaker 1: that was. And one of the things that I had
Speaker 1: checked over the oh he could catch. They just gotta
Speaker 1: go somewhere where he's used in that regard Atlantis, dumping
Speaker 1: it off to him all the time, and he shows everyone.
Speaker 1: Let's keep it going. We're short on time, Donovan, People's jones.
Speaker 1: He's a wide receiver from Michigan. Yes, he's a he's
Speaker 1: a workout warrior. Was workout warrior. Production was question questionable? Okay,
Speaker 1: did not I'm not okay, sorry, keep cutting you off. Well,
Speaker 1: my reckless comp for him is Josh Dockson both six
Speaker 1: two both, you know, right around that four five forty
Speaker 1: sub four or five guy jump ball Guys, you know,
Speaker 1: don't always see everything you want to see consistently. You
Speaker 1: don't always see great route running. But when it was
Speaker 1: time to throw the ball up to a guy, you know,
Speaker 1: that's what happened at their schools. And you know Dockson
Speaker 1: went in the first round. People's Jones is not gonna
Speaker 1: go in the first round. He did not knew near
Speaker 1: enough to be drafted that high. But some teams going
Speaker 1: to take a shot on him, and it wouldn't surprise
Speaker 1: me if he ended up in the top one hundred,
Speaker 1: just because he's got freaky athletic traits and he could
Speaker 1: be a you know, way more than what he was
Speaker 1: in college. As long as we're talking about it was
Speaker 1: Docks in twenty seventeen. Don't don't worry about it, because
Speaker 1: I got it a tough one. I got a receiver cop.
Speaker 1: I think I've told you that before and I actually
Speaker 1: and you didn't like it. I don't care, um, James Proche, Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: like this reminds me of DJ Moore, which I know
Speaker 1: remember you saying, Jo He's not I mean, he's not
Speaker 1: going in the first round, man, But I love DJ
Speaker 1: Moore so much because, like, not the most imposing guy,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking at him. He's five eleven two fifteen,
Speaker 1: like he could he could be a running back if
Speaker 1: he wanted to be. And Proche is a little lighter,
Speaker 1: but he's he's five. He's almost five eleven two oh
Speaker 1: one was his combine measurement. And like they look like
Speaker 1: running backs when they get the ball in their hand,
Speaker 1: like they're just they're hard to tackle, they have incredible
Speaker 1: vision and then obviously Proche catches everything you throw his way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I and more power to this receiver class because if
Speaker 1: that's going to push him down. You talk about a
Speaker 1: fourth round pick, that would make me do a backflip.
Speaker 1: James proche and I mean, yeah, he's not a first
Speaker 1: round pick like DJ Moore, but I just think their
Speaker 1: games are really similar. There's a history with those SMU
Speaker 1: wide receivers too, Dallas Day Guy as well, Dallas Day Guy.
Speaker 1: This we're not gonna spend a lot of time on
Speaker 1: same uniform. Marsham Lattimore, Jeffrey Okuda Ohio State. Both clear
Speaker 1: number one cornerbacks in the class. I've got that both
Speaker 1: fluid and man cover corners. Just ridiculous. kJ Hill from
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Jarvis Landry, wow se, holy cow, bring it outs, reckless,
Speaker 1: Neither guy gonna blow up the combine. Both find a
Speaker 1: way to get open went with their smarts. Highly competitive
Speaker 1: attitudinal guys, and not in a bad way, in a
Speaker 1: way that's good. You know that guy who's it's third
Speaker 1: and four, I'm gonna get it to this guy and
Speaker 1: he'll go get the catch for me, is gonna find
Speaker 1: a way to get enough separation. And you don't always
Speaker 1: know how because they're not burners, but they just do
Speaker 1: a great job of manipulating the defender. Just a guy
Speaker 1: that understands how to get open. kJ Hill is a
Speaker 1: poor man. Jarvis Landry and I think that's very interesting.
Speaker 1: I love that com I want to go. I know
Speaker 1: we're running out of time, but the Lattimore Accuda pick
Speaker 1: just perked my interest because Lattimore was similarly hyped to Akuda,
Speaker 1: like can't miss number one cornerback prospect. He fell to
Speaker 1: eleven Hammy, he chronic Cammy, he had Hamster. Remember there
Speaker 1: are big questions. Honestly, I don't three years ago feels
Speaker 1: like a lifetime. You know who else in that same
Speaker 1: draft because another thing that Latimore had to deal with
Speaker 1: is Malik Hooker was also highly touted, which he fell
Speaker 1: as well, and he fell as well because of his
Speaker 1: frame and he was skinny, and teams were worried if
Speaker 1: he could he could tackle or whatever. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: can move like that and make plays on the ball.
Speaker 1: Then you don't think about it. I just I mean it.
Speaker 1: I just wonder because I could see Okuda going number
Speaker 1: three overall. I could also see him quote unquote sliding
Speaker 1: to the lowered ten like, yeah, eight or nine, not
Speaker 1: a huge slide, but it's not out of the realm
Speaker 1: of possibility. Derek Brown of Auburn. If it's a tackle
Speaker 1: a Keem Hicks Chicago Bears big time playmaker. Uh I'll
Speaker 1: just spend a lot of time on that one though,
Speaker 1: Zach Bond, Wisconsin, go ahead and do it. Just just
Speaker 1: Kyle van Noy, Okay, go no, it's going to see Yeah,
Speaker 1: really not that similar at all, cal van Noy. You've
Speaker 1: watched van Noy, who now with Detroit, but after years
Speaker 1: with the Patriots, we've all seen him. He's back in
Speaker 1: New England now he was with Detroit. Yeah, sorry, Detroit
Speaker 1: traded him for a sack of nuts. He turned into
Speaker 1: a great player when you watched him. Not only does
Speaker 1: he rushed the pastor, but he can cover two. And
Speaker 1: that's what you see with Zach Bond. What is the
Speaker 1: team going to do with him both in that kind
Speaker 1: of six two sixty three range? Uh So, I think
Speaker 1: that's an interesting, reckless comparison. Also, not to mention Van
Speaker 1: Noy's going to be a free agent. I believe this season, right,
Speaker 1: I believe he is. Yeah, he's a free agents now,
Speaker 1: I think so. I hope I think they look Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope the Mike McCarthy Cowboys are a little more
Speaker 1: willing to draft that type of doesn't necessarily have a
Speaker 1: roll Swiss Army knife player where Yeah, it a great way.
Speaker 1: That will the Patriots have built their defense that way
Speaker 1: and it's been one of the best in the league.
Speaker 1: Now we are out of time, But I want to
Speaker 1: jump in on the fund here because I haven't given
Speaker 1: a compo gonna cap this off. Jalen Hurts. What's the
Speaker 1: question around Jalen Hurts? Caccuracy, process the field, processing the field,
Speaker 1: a little bit of recklessness, release, different kind of fundamentals.
Speaker 1: So what do you got. I'm gonna make everyone in
Speaker 1: Cowboys Nation upset right now? Okay, Dak Prescott. Comparison between
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts way more way winter athletic than Dak. Yeah,
Speaker 1: way more athletic. But Dak's got his pluses a little
Speaker 1: bit more so than Jalen. On another couple of things,
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts go in on a good team and go
Speaker 1: win games. I think so if he goes to the
Speaker 1: right system, I think you probably could. They're probably gonna
Speaker 1: go right around third and fourth round in March of
Speaker 1: his draft process. I don't think anybody believed that about Dak. No,
Speaker 1: so no, but this whole thing, if we've spent all
Speaker 1: these years like killing Lenahan and Garrett, but in that
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen year. That was the perfect thing for day.
Speaker 1: Really was that system, Like that situation was really good,
Speaker 1: I think. I mean, it's always interesting, so oh, use
Speaker 1: pro days out of the way. Jalen Hurts killed it.
Speaker 1: He had an awesome workout. Great. I tend I don't
Speaker 1: value Pro Days for quarterbacks that much because you're throwing
Speaker 1: to two guys who've been throwing to all year. Uh,
Speaker 1: and it's scripted to be in your favor, you know,
Speaker 1: like you're obviously you're going to throw routes that you
Speaker 1: feel good about, no doubt. But I can knock the
Speaker 1: guy like, he looked great. I mean, I wonder what
Speaker 1: his ceiling is like. I don't think I would draft
Speaker 1: him in the second round, no, but I mean somebody might.
Speaker 1: Somebody might take a chance. I can convince myself that
Speaker 1: somebody would. For think somebody might if they'd need a
Speaker 1: premium backup or they've got a veteran aging quarterback. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a way to go. I'm not saying any of
Speaker 1: these guys will be successful, but as long as we're
Speaker 1: being reckless, I think I would feel better drafting Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts than not just Jake from but Jacob Eason as well.
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm not sold on either of those guys.
Speaker 1: I'm not and I'm not saying. I'm not saying I'm
Speaker 1: sold on Jalen Hurts as an NFL quarterback, but I
Speaker 1: think there's more potential there. Sure. Well, we've been reckless
Speaker 1: with our comps and we've also been reckless with our
Speaker 1: time because we're about five minutes over. But that's gonna
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