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Speaker 1: Draft Show. It's been a weird week. It really has

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Speaker 1: because one, this is one of the most important weeks

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Speaker 1: the contracts. It's it's the Big three cs is what

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Speaker 1: it is. It's contracts, It's the CBA, and then it's coronavirus.

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Speaker 1: I was wondering, Yeah, okay, yeah, those are the three. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's it's been dominating storyline. This week has aged me

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Speaker 1: of worldwide prominence. Oh and by the way, the NBA

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Speaker 1: I won't be surprised if that gets suspended as well.

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Speaker 1: So with six weeks to go, it's totally fair to

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Speaker 1: wonder what that means for the NFL Draft, like as

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Speaker 1: it sits right now, and obviously, like so much is

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Speaker 1: we were joking before the show, like maybe they'll do

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Speaker 1: the draft from a conference room, they might mean, and

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Speaker 1: very good point, rightfully, So if it's in the best

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Speaker 1: interest of the public, honestly, just take it into a

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Speaker 1: convention center kind of like how they used to do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, throw it in. It's funny to think they

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Speaker 1: used to just be you know, they called it like

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Speaker 1: obviously it's developed into something completely different. Yeah, much like

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Speaker 1: the rest of the NFL. But maybe you go back

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Speaker 1: do it draft weekend. Okay, so it really wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: hard though, to go, Okay, Vegas, you're gonna get it

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Speaker 1: because that's what they're worried about obviously, not only the

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Speaker 1: that's not going to bring them in on a boat.

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Speaker 1: talk about some reckless comps. Of course, the Draft Show

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Speaker 1: presented by Miller Line, We're gonna talk about reckless comps.

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Speaker 1: starts affecting your personal life. Really, Now, some earlier than

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Speaker 1: others were affected by this, but we're gonna start seeing

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Speaker 1: could turn into for the Dallas Cowboys, because right now

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Speaker 1: worried about defensive line. That's another one as well. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's plenty of options and plenty of decisions to be made.

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Speaker 1: take a look at Twitter on the twenty Twitter on

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Speaker 1: the twenty way. Of course, a big week of decisions

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Speaker 1: throughout for the Dallas Cowboys in really the NFL in general,

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Speaker 1: with all of the different speculations and whatnot going through

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Speaker 1: whenever it comes to the coronavirus and then CBA like

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Speaker 1: we talked about in that first segment. But I want

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Speaker 1: to ask a Dave Hellman question. Oh boy, this is

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it simple for you, please do this

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Speaker 1: guy doesn't have a name on Twitter. Okay, oh he

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Speaker 1: doesn't even have a picture of anything. But I think

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Speaker 1: I don't even know who this basketball play. Oh, it's

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Speaker 1: Crusoe from the Lakers. Is this profile picture? This is

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Speaker 1: an egg? It's a Twitter egg. No, maybe wide receiver

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Speaker 1: at seventeen or riot go. I mean, is that a

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Speaker 1: question rioting? And it depends on it honestly depends on

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Speaker 1: what happened. I mean, it's sat there is there is

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Speaker 1: smoke that a Marie Cooper could be signed before he

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Speaker 1: hits free agency. That's that's separate from the question of

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Speaker 1: like a tag or anything like that. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: a Marie Cooper is not on this team, then hell yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean they need they need to draft a receiver,

497
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Speaker 1: and they need one that can make an instant impact.

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Speaker 1: That's prop Honestly, that's Jerry Judy and Ceedee Lamb are

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Speaker 1: the two that I'm just no doubt whatsoever that they

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Speaker 1: could make a rookie impact. I don't even know if

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00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: I trust Rugs to do that. I don't either in

502
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Speaker 1: a receiver corps where there's no Amari Cooper to lean on,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I trust him to be to

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Speaker 1: be the number one to be that guy. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: so yeah, if if Cooper's not on this team, then

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Speaker 1: I think that skyrockets to the top of your priority list.

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Speaker 1: Having said that, I think he is on this team

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Speaker 1: one way or another, by hooker, by crook. I think

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Speaker 1: they find a way to keep him here. Let's play

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Speaker 1: it that way. Then, Okay, Cooper's here. Yeah, wide receiver

511
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: or right. And that's that's what I keep going back to. Obviously,

512
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: like team forty Burger, I love to talk about it.

513
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm very intrigued by it. I wouldn't hate that pick,

514
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: but there's just so many other things they need to do.

515
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Speaker 1: This wide receiver class is so deep seven. I mean,

516
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: if Cede Lamb is there, if he falls all the way,

517
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,479
Speaker 1: which I don't really believe. It looks like he had

518
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: a really nice prote yesterday in Norman made another circus

519
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: catch um, it would be tough. And that's I mean.

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Speaker 1: So you're like a wide receiver arguably the best wide

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Speaker 1: receiver in the class, or cornerback number two CJ. Henderson,

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Speaker 1: safety number one, Grant Delpit, who you know, maybe you

523
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Speaker 1: don't feel great about him at that spot. Yeah, I

524
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: think that's the debate. See, if I feel like I'm

525
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Speaker 1: reaching for a player, then I have no problem doing that.

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Speaker 1: But like, but by how much of a reach, though,

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Speaker 1: Like everybody's like, oh, trade back to twenty six and

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Speaker 1: take Delpit there and how to pick, Like, Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: great in theory, but like, what if you can't it's

530
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Speaker 1: easy to talk about that hardly ever happened. And if Grant,

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Speaker 1: if Grant Delpit's good enough to take a twenty four,

532
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Speaker 1: is it like this stupid to believe that. I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: I think positional depth in the draft does matter, and

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Speaker 1: we know that Will McClay, at least in his tenure,

535
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Speaker 1: has taken a real good look at that depth in

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Speaker 1: the draft and how they've map things out as you should,

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Speaker 1: and but sometimes to their detriment, yes, but sometimes it's

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00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: been okay as well. I mean, it's funny because the

539
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: Taco pick was a failure. But the strategy we talked

540
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: about this on a previous show, The strategy work. The strategy.

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Speaker 1: They got two cornerbacks capable of contributing right away in

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Speaker 1: the second and third round. They just didn't draft the

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Speaker 1: right defensive end. But and that's kind of my point,

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Speaker 1: is we all agree that you could find a receiver

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Speaker 1: capable of contributing right away as late as like the

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Speaker 1: fourth round. Yeah, I don't feel I really I don't

547
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Speaker 1: love this safety class beyond Grant Delpit, Xavier McKinney, Ashton Davis.

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00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: I'll throw in Kyle Dugger, even though I don't think

549
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys will draft him in obviously, Antoine Winfield, I

550
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: don't even know about that. Okay, that's I don't I

551
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: don't feel great if you don't draft the safety at seventeen.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel great about a guy I love being

553
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Speaker 1: there at fifty one. Like I don't know if yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't giving up on a

555
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Speaker 1: potential starter if you don't draft safety at seven. And

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Speaker 1: so that's my point is, I think, I'm sorry, I

557
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: didn't mean to cut you off, but I can get

558
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Speaker 1: a badass receiver at pick eighty two. I know I can.

559
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: I think last year was kind of an eye opener

560
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: and how teams feel about the safety position in general. Yeah,

561
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: when you saw those guys kind of fall the Taylor

562
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: Rap and one Thorne Hill and Nasir Adelie, we saw, now,

563
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm you're baking on that to happen again, and that's

564
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: that's risky business. It is, and we've seen teams really

565
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: go pay safeties. Earl Thomas, the honey Badger. We've seen him.

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Speaker 1: You guys get paid at the safety position. This team

567
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: is refrained from taking safeties for a long time now,

568
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: but I don't see them spending a premium pick on

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Speaker 1: a safety. And that's I've been saying it. I've been

570
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Speaker 1: saying that for weeks. It's like, if if Grant Delpit's

571
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: not as good as Derwin James, then why should I

572
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: believe that they're going to draft him at seventeen. But

573
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: at the same time, another LSU guy, Tyron Math, you

574
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: just showed you the value of a versatile safety with

575
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Speaker 1: ball skills, because like safety doesn't even do the position

576
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Speaker 1: justice because Tymer Matthew played about five spots for the Chiefs,

577
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: and I think Grant Delpit could do that too. I've

578
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: whittled it down to one guy I'm excited about at seventeen,

579
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Speaker 1: and it's dangerous because he probably won't be there. You

580
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: got kin Law, And you know what I do this

581
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: most every year that the Cowboys are picking right in

582
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Speaker 1: the middle. I whittle it down to guys I'm excited

583
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Speaker 1: about it that area. I don't mind being in the middle.

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00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: It's not a good spot. You whittle it down to

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Speaker 1: one player. Well it was Hey, it was little dead

586
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: to two players and Zach Martiniere and it was Ryan

587
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: Shazier and Zach martin I was like, oh, yeah, great.

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00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: I mean no, it will be. It will be whittled

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00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: down by April. But like right now, I just think

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00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: there's too many possibilities for me to zero in on

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00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: one guy. To answer the question more directly, I would

592
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Speaker 1: be excited, but well, you're not gonna riot. I mean no,

593
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Speaker 1: I would be excited if they picked the receiver, but

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Speaker 1: if they don't, that's a responsible strategy. I'm not gonna

595
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Speaker 1: be mad about it. Well they I feel way better

596
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: about Team forty Burger happening with McCarthy then with Garrett

597
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: here because Garrett did not want to play that way.

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00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: That's a great point. That's a great point. But Dave,

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Speaker 1: kind of going back to what you said kind of

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Speaker 1: early on where you were talking about safeties that you

601
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Speaker 1: weren't really excited about fifty one. You threw out some names,

602
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: but one name he didn't throw out was Antoine Winfield Junior.

603
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Speaker 1: I know you said he would be there at fifty one.

604
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: I threw him in at the very end when you

605
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Speaker 1: brought up Chin. He's in that mix because a lot

606
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Speaker 1: and this is it's the funny, the funny thing about

607
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Speaker 1: the draft, to Katie's point, like we were in love

608
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Speaker 1: with with Thornhill and Rap and there was another one

609
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: love with Xavier Woods and Desmond King and those guys

610
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: went in the sixth and seventh round. All those guys fall,

611
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Speaker 1: They fell last year, So it's conceivable. I know people

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Speaker 1: that don't think Winfield is a top fifty pick because

613
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Speaker 1: of his length. He's five nine big. I think there

614
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Speaker 1: are people that think he was so impressive at the

615
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Speaker 1: combine and you add that to what he's got on

616
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Speaker 1: tape and they're like, this guy doesn't fall out of

617
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Speaker 1: the top. You know he doesn't. He's picked forty five. Yeah,

618
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Speaker 1: so there's no way to know for sure. I'd be

619
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Speaker 1: ecstatic to draft Antoine Winfield at fifty one, but I don't.

620
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Speaker 1: I don't feel great that he will be there for

621
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Speaker 1: you See, I'm kind of in the same boat. I've

622
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: yet to find anyone who could come up and look

623
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Speaker 1: me in the eye and give me anything aside from

624
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: size and injury history that's concerning about him. Yeah, because

625
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: everything else is exciting. All IQ is there I mean,

626
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: his dad was a fourteen year veteran in the league,

627
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Speaker 1: and he literally and I've got a story coming out

628
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Speaker 1: on the Blitz later this week, but he literally would

629
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Speaker 1: sit in bed and watch tape with his dad at

630
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Speaker 1: eleven years old of his dad trying to cover Calvin

631
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Speaker 1: Johnson trying to cover Bancatron. So he got a football

632
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Speaker 1: IQ lesson from such an early age that he might

633
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Speaker 1: be one of the smartest in terms of draft prospects,

634
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: football IQ and knowing when and where to be in

635
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Speaker 1: the entire draft. I think his time at the combat

636
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Speaker 1: I think you're in a four eight, which you know

637
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: for safety that's actually not too bad. But like you

638
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: watch you on tape and you're like, Okay, he's moving

639
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: pretty fast here, Like he's moving around, he sees plays fast.

640
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: He's a pretty good tack where he will hit. He

641
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: plays with attitude, he has bull skills. You know, to me,

642
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: the size is a problem, and we all know that

643
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: the size is a problem. But so there's some things

644
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: you just can't, Like, you can't have everything you want.

645
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: You're not in a lab making robots here. Look, he's

646
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: five nine. I don't know what to tell you. You You either,

647
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: okay with it or you're not. And a lot of

648
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: teams are not gonna be okay with it. I'm personally

649
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: okay with it because of the other things. He actually

650
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: ran at the combine. He actually ran a four four five.

651
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: He had to say he was really good. He had

652
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: a fav combine. I haven't updated my spring time on him,

653
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: which a four five eight. He's one of my, you know,

654
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: five to ten favorite prospects in the whole draft. I

655
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: would be ecstatic. It's it's just interesting how teams value

656
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: these guys, though, because I'm thinking about Taylor Rapp. We

657
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: spent the whole spring saying he won't even be there.

658
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: He goes three picks after the Cowboys pick last year,

659
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: and then another one that always comes to mind. Kat,

660
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: you're Green Bay Packers. Remember how much we liked Darnell Savage. Yeah,

661
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: we liked him as like a third round pick. Yeah,

662
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: fourth for me. They made him. They traded up a thirty,

663
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: they made him a first round pick up, They traded

664
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: up from thirty to go up to twenty one and

665
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: get him. There's just and he was great. No, and

666
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: he hit a great year. There's no way. But there's

667
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: just no way to know how these teams value these guys,

668
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: and you know, you never know, like because and there's

669
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: also and you know, Taylor Rap had medical issues that

670
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: that you know, weren't highly publicized. And he was slow. Yeah,

671
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: and he was slow and it was but the Sire

672
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: Adderley fluid mover. The big knock on him was he

673
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: played at Delaware. You know, that was the kind of

674
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: thing with him, and did he want to tackle? And

675
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: he slides and you know, get information in all kinds

676
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: of different ways. But I heard the great line that

677
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: you know, this team here for Darnell Savage was day three. No,

678
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: they were terribly excited. They didn't know what the hell

679
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: the Packers were doing. Ye. Yeah, So it's it's it's curious.

680
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,239
Speaker 1: I mean, between his tape and what he did at

681
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: the combine. I mean, hey, I'm five six. I don't

682
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: give it. I don't care at all that uh that

683
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield's five nine bring them on well kind of

684
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: going at least name wise with the first question. The

685
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: first question was wide receiver or riot. The name of

686
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: this Twitter account is draft CD for another TDUM, So

687
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: that's the the legitimate name, and it's got some emojis

688
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: on there, but it doesn't have anything to do with

689
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Who can the Cowboys afford to pass on more?

690
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: I think I might know Katie's answer to this question,

691
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: Javon kin Law or CJ. Henderson since the interior defensive

692
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: line and cornerback class is not very deep. Kind of

693
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: going along with the same thing we were talking about

694
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: with the safeties. But who's the who's the worst one

695
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: to pass on? You want to go first? Well, part

696
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 1: of it does? I have kin Lall graded way higher

697
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: than C. J. Henderson, So let's put it that way first.

698
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: So that's one part of it. I think there's an

699
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown component in free agency that we'll find out. Yep,

700
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: if they're going to be willing to if he will

701
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: take it might be up to him how much he

702
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: wants to be here, you know, maybe one of those

703
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: type of things. Um, And if it feels like Byron's gone,

704
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: I still think you can get a cornerback in the

705
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: second round. That would be to your liking. There's a

706
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: chance to cornerback slide a little bit. And I don't

707
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: think Trevon Diggs gets there, but there's a chance he does.

708
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: I don't think Christian Fulton falls that far, but I

709
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: think there's a chance. I don't think it's nuts fifty one.

710
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: I don't think it's nuts. Man. There's six guys. There

711
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: are really five guys? Are all the corners everyone's been

712
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: talking about? Right, there's no ways the Damon Arnette in

713
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: there and make that six? So okay, Damon Arnette could

714
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 1: fall that far. Okay, Yeah, absolutely he could, especially considering

715
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: there's off the field question him as well. That was

716
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: my point. But Diggs and Trevon Diggs and Christian Fulton,

717
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: I don't think they're not falling out of the top fifty.

718
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: Most likely not. But just just play with me, may

719
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: I'll play along, aren't it? Okay? And there's there's six guys.

720
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: You like the Auburn guy, Yes, there we go, No way, no, Noah?

721
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: His name? Say to these guys name people know the

722
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: hell your nut of what? I always refrain from saying

723
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: his name. I just say the Yeah, it's got like

724
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: twelve letters in it. So so there's seven guys. I

725
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: just threw at you guys. All right, seven guys, there's

726
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a cornerback drafted once every seven picks in

727
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: this draft because that's if you're picking up pick fifty one,

728
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: that's what you gotta have one ever seven picks. So

729
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: there's gonna be there's gonna be six offensive lineman yan.

730
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: There's gonna be four quarterbacks for sure gone in the

731
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: first round. Most likely there's going to be wide receivers taken.

732
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: I feel like you're in a situation where you can

733
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: get a cornerback at fifty one. That would be pleasing

734
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: if it'sive tackle. You know, who do you like? Do

735
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: you like the Jordan Elliott Neville Gallimore type, Jordan Elliot

736
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: from Missouri, Neiville Gallin from ok Do you like that

737
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: type at fifty one more than you like one of

738
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: these corners. Justin Mattabuque is the name that I think

739
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: you should have circled. I think so too. I think

740
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: you should have him circled for early second round. Yeah,

741
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: he might not be there, he's on my not get

742
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: to fire. Both Justin Metabec out of AMM and then

743
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: Ross black Clock from TCU. I think both of those

744
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: guys who we had our eyes on and circled early,

745
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: I think they're inching up away and out of reach,

746
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: which is unfortunately. Here's where I go back to is

747
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: I and we don't know. There's no way to know.

748
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: But this team has so little in the way of

749
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: defensive tackles they can't afford to not do work in

750
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: free agency. And the interior defensive line crop in free

751
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: agency is so much better than the cornerback crop. Yeah, Like,

752
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: you go down the list after there's about three names

753
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: on the cornerback free agent list that pique your interest,

754
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: and one of them you're letting way. I'm gonna say,

755
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: one of them you're letting leaves. Yeah, Chris Harris is

756
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: out there that could be a little out of the

757
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys price range. Maybe you bring back Anthony Brown. Bashad

758
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 1: Breland is a name that's intriguing to me, but like exactly,

759
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: I mean, well, you know what, he's got history with McCarthy. No,

760
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: for sure, and it's possible, but it's it's not a

761
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: name that gets you excited. My point being, I think

762
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: the Cowboys can address their d tackle needs a little

763
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: bit better in free agency than cornerback, which is why

764
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: I cannot discount C. J. Henderson simply because it feels

765
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: like the perfect mesh of value and need in the censure.

766
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: We need a guy you know he'll be under contract

767
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: for five years. He can start right away if he

768
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: needs to. And it fits like I mean, he's the

769
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 1: second or third best cornerback in the draft. That's exactly

770
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, seventeen sounds exactly right. And the position group's

771
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to be remade either way because next year

772
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis and Cheetah are going to be free agents.

773
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: And I guess another thing, I would say, there's really

774
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: no point in having verbal warfare over this Twitter on

775
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: the twenty question, considering that it's a question that's best

776
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: would be best answered with more information. You know that

777
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: in two weeks two weeks, I can help you out here.

778
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: And really, when he's not having enough information ever stopped us.

779
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: If you're taking Henderson over kin Law, it better be

780
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: because ken Law's knees are up, because ken Law is

781
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: a better player than Henderson, just big boarding, stacking them

782
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: up like Ken Laws the guy you better be high.

783
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: To me, that's a weird thing to pass up right there.

784
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: If ken Henderson doesn't touch the upside that Ken Law has,

785
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: if not even close. If ken Law's knee checks out,

786
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: don't you feel like he's gone in the top fifteen. Anyway,

787
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: he's probably not gonna be there. I do, And I

788
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: think that makes the wide receiver thing become a little

789
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: more of a topic. See, and here's what I was

790
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: going to kind of pull up here, and we talked

791
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: about safety a moment ago. We talked a little bit

792
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: of wide receiver in that first segment. But if if

793
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: we're looking at CJ. Henderson or javon Kinlaw and then

794
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: looking at the remainder of the draft, I think it's

795
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: not out of the question that you would say neither

796
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: one of these guys were drafted in the first round

797
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: at seventeen, even if they're both there because years maybe

798
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: a wide receiver that peaks interest. There's other positional needs

799
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: you can fill defensive tackle and free agency, you can

800
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: fill a cornerback spot in the second round of the draft.

801
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: You're you guys are talking me into the fact that

802
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: safety or wide receiver and seventeen is not as crazy

803
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: as we were kind of thinking, or I was thinking

804
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: coming into the show, just because the sole fact that

805
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: that I was I'm still sold by the way that

806
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: wide receiver is not going to be there at seventeen.

807
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: That's not what the Cowboys are gonna pick. I'm sold

808
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: on that. I don't think that's happening. But safety this

809
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: kind of makes me think that it might be safer

810
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: to go with a safety at seventeen, try and get

811
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: a cornerback instead of C. J. Henderson in the second round.

812
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: I just don't think they'll do that. I think they'll

813
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: party at safety and free Agency. I hate they'll look around.

814
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: And I also, I don't know. I could be wrong.

815
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: It's a whole new, whole new regimes. It's hard to

816
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: answer questions. Would anybody be surprised if Jeff Heath is

817
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: your starting safety next year? No, no, I know that's

818
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: gonna crack. Everyone's not. I wouldn't be surprised. Turned into hypnosis,

819
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: but like, like seriously, it wouldn't be nuts if like, oh, well,

820
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: you know what the safety value the guy we like

821
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: didn't fall into our labs. So we went because you

822
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: know they're gonna address up front, and you know they're

823
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 1: gonna address cornerback. Gonna hell, that's gonna happen. I'm gonna

824
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: have a close well, assuming it happens with the coronavirus

825
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: and everything. But LSU is a late a late protame

826
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: superl it's like April. It's April third. Yeah, I'm gonna

827
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: have a close eye on it if it happens, because

828
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: I think people are people are down on Grant delpit

829
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: right now, but when he works out, oh my god,

830
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: and the media is always behind the pros, right, like

831
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: the pros don't need to see that. But when he

832
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: works out, I think he's going to he's gonna vault

833
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: back into the conversation because he's gonna put up some

834
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,959
Speaker 1: freaky numbers. I think that'll be fun to watch. Let's

835
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: do two more quick questions right, first one, what is

836
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: the latest round you believe the Cowboys could draft a

837
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: guy that is starting come September? Just period, period, I

838
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: mean any position I always. I mean I think of

839
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: the top one hundred picks, as you know, they should

840
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: be contributing heavily, if not starting. I mean Michael Gallup

841
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: started from day one is pick eighty one, but try

842
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: and Hill barely played as pick fifty eight. So I mean,

843
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: if if you're doing your job right, I think the

844
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: first three rounds should be starter caliber and then your

845
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: fourth round pick has a has a chance depending on

846
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: what position he play is what the need is, could

847
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: you get a fourth round wide receiver. That's starting. I

848
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: think that's that's sort I was about to go. That's

849
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: kind of where I think this question is leading. If

850
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: Cobb doesn't come back, then I think you're kJ Hill

851
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: from Ohio State DuVernay from Texas. You would love that.

852
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman, Michael Pittman's USC. I think they'll like John

853
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: high Tower from Boise State. Yea is a gimmicky guy.

854
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: You know, those are kind of Van Jefferson got hurt.

855
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: He may fall a little bit, the wider super from Florida.

856
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: Van Jefferson and man excellent route runner. But he's hurt

857
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: a little bit. We could dock him a little bit.

858
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: We know, surprised. We know the Cowboys full order now,

859
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: by the way, thank goodness. So I think pick one

860
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: twenty three is their fourth round pick. Yeah, and you

861
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: know we saw them go yeah. Once I'll check it

862
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: for you. You'll have you'll have a good player there.

863
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: It's my point, Yes, you will. So this is just

864
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: pure reading between the lines, pure hunch. But I think

865
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: Randall cop is back. I think he's back on a

866
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: similar deal, maybe worth a little bit more. And so

867
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't think any unless they go at pick seventeen

868
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: or fifty one, Like, I don't think a receiver that

869
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: they draft would start. But you know, Mikole Hardman, he

870
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: was the second round pick for the Chiefs last year,

871
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily start, but was a valuable piece of that

872
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: offense as their speed guy or another speed guy because

873
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: they got a million of them. And kind of going

874
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: back to Randall Cop really quickly here out of this

875
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: past season. Of course, it's easy to fall in love

876
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: with this wide receiver class. I mean all of us

877
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: here have done, so we've fallen in love with this

878
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: wide receiver class. But a lot of people forget the

879
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: kind of year that Randall Cop have it, especially at

880
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. Did anybody have worse luck

881
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: than Randall Cop. It seemed like every touchdown, every catch

882
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: that he had, yeah, was just called back for a penalty.

883
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 1: He had I think two or three touchdowns all back.

884
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: He at least two in the first like month of this. Yeah,

885
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: it was real early and a lot of people forget

886
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: about that. He had a He had a nice season.

887
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: And I don't mean to dog him because I thought

888
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: he played really well, but he all like him and

889
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: Dak could not get on the same page in the

890
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 1: crucial moments. He drops third down drop in New Orleans.

891
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: That kind of changed the cops. Being the fourth quarter,

892
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: there are some others if I think about him, Um,

893
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: are you talking about to dive in the fourth quarter

894
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: in the end zone or now that was the first quarter. No,

895
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: that wasn't quarter, third, third and five. It was a

896
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: crossing route and I mean Dak threw it a little

897
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: behind him, but it was definitely a catchable pass. He's

898
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: always been a guy that They'll have some drops, so

899
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: it may not be a starter, but like impactful. You

900
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: can think tied that We saw them go tied in

901
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: there a couple of years ago. A Dalton Schultz. Yeah,

902
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: I think they have a better chance of getting a

903
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: better tight end in that fourth round area because there's

904
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: Titans aren't top heavy, but they will start going. It's

905
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: gonna be round through round four. Maybe I gotta keep

906
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: an eye on. I think he's a pretty good rout

907
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: running tight end and I think they met like because

908
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: he could block a little bit too. Bryson Hopkins of Purdue,

909
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: It's a guy I kind of like in that fourth round.

910
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: You know that range right there or if he's sitting there.

911
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: You go, man, I might as well take this guy.

912
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: And then I got Hopkins and jar One and let's go. Granted,

913
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: we still don't know what's gonna happen with Whitton, but man,

914
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: you look at Hopkins. Last year, sixty one catches had

915
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns. You guys saw him at the Senior Bowl.

916
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: Of course, fifteen yards of catch. Get down the field

917
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: a little bit. They're gonna try to get down the field.

918
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: They're gonna try to be a faster offense. It's just

919
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: gonna be a little different than it was. McCarthy is

920
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: going to try to put up a thirty and forty burgers,

921
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: let's go. You know. So that's the type of pick

922
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: I would kind of like if Hopkins or someone like

923
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: that was still on the board. I know we've talked

924
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: a little bit about Harrison Bryant from Atlantic, Yeah, FAU,

925
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: you know that area. Maybe those guys could help you

926
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. But Hopkins is killmore route running, get

927
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: a little swivel to his game, and I'd be highly

928
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: interested in him if he were to fold to the

929
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 1: fourth round, as it helped me there as a helper

930
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: one twenty three. Yeah, I'm trying to think if there's

931
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: any defensive players that could you know, Malike Collins star

932
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: right away as a third round ship that was pick

933
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: sixty seven, though it's a much higher pick. But you know,

934
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: if a defensive tackle were to fall, you know, that's

935
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 1: kind of a range too. And maybe I'm I'm a

936
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: little further down on the guy than than like Jeff,

937
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: Like Jeff loves the guy. But Terrell Burgess safety from Utah, Yeah,

938
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he could get to the fourth round. Man,

939
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. Looking at the safety class, the safety class,

940
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: if I I kind of think it's gonna stretch a

941
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: little bit because the Ashton Davis is of the world,

942
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: the Cayle Dugger, Jeremy Chen, you know, some of those

943
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: guys could push it to maybe be one of the

944
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: fourth round safety that you like. And Troll Burgess is

945
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: kind of my fourth round safety. Got I've got to

946
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,959
Speaker 1: highlight it is okay, I would go there. His length

947
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: makes me nervous. His finish on tackles makes me nervous.

948
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: Although Twitter Draft Twitter got all in my face tell

949
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 1: me he's a reliable tackler. I think he's an okay tackler.

950
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he's reliable tackle. I think he's an

951
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: okay tackler who doesn't need to be playing up near

952
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage at all. There's anything I've learned

953
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: about draft Twitter, it's that you can find an opinion

954
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: on every player, like somebody hates everyone and somebody loves everyone.

955
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: It's crazy, just the way it goes. It all just

956
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: piles on sixty seconds. One final question, Okay, what do

957
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: you think of the Dallas Cowboys taking a linebacker and

958
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: Ken and Murray out of Oklahoma in the first round

959
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: after a report that they have a meeting scheduled with him.

960
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why, Okay, I don't want to if

961
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: you're going three four, I'm okay with it. I just

962
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: that's why I don't think meetings always mean everything, because

963
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: I just think teams do their due diligence. I don't

964
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: want to discount it completely, but man, we talked about

965
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,479
Speaker 1: this in Indied that just and I get it. It's

966
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: fair to worry about Layton vander esch'sil It's very fair.

967
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: I don't think you should buy the line that he's

968
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: one hundred percent okay and everything's fine. You don't have

969
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: to believe that. You know, I'm not here to sell

970
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: you propaganda, but I need more evidence that he can't

971
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: stay healthy before I'm ready to just pull the plug.

972
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: And that's what drafting a first round linebacker is to me, Like, well,

973
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: this this guy just he can't stay healthy easy. You know.

974
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: It was a bad pick and we need to fix

975
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: it right away. Like that's what a first round pick

976
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: would signal to me if you took Kenneth Murray or

977
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: Patrick Queen. I mean, so, either you're saying you don't

978
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: think Layton's gonna play, or you have so little faith

979
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: that you need a premium backup right now. I don't

980
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: like the idea of that at all. If you want,

981
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: you know what I would love, you know, Anthony Hitchins

982
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: was a fourth round pick, Sure find me that guy

983
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 1: even at those for you, man, if the value lines

984
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: up in the third round to where you say, yeah,

985
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: a linebackers not a huge need, but this guy can play, yeah,

986
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. But a first round pick on

987
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: a position where you just drafted Layton, you got him

988
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: for three more years, if you pick up his option

989
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: and you just paid Jalen, that just leaves a really

990
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: bad taste in my mouth. Mike McCarthy says he wants

991
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: good football players. Kenneth Murray's a really good football player.

992
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: I mean that would go three four things could get interested.

993
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: That would on rushing. That would be the ultimate could

994
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: be interest. It would be the ultimate signal that McCarthy

995
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: means what he says. Yeah, if they were to take

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997
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Speaker 1: Kind of explain the reasoning behind a reckless comp Yeah.

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1055
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: because I think it sets on realistic expectations. But I

1056
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: do think sometimes when you're watching tape on these guys,

1057
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: you'll go, he reminds me of him, and he reminds

1058
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: me of him. So I like doing reckless comps, so

1059
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: I like being a little bit reckless some spear into

1060
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: the skid, yeah kind of feel. So it's like, basically,

1061
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: it's I've got a listen to about seven or eight

1062
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: guys that I've seen him. When I watched him on tape,

1063
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: I wrote down on my notes he kind of reminds

1064
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: me of this, And that's just something. If you guys

1065
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: have some of your own, feel free to throw him

1066
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: out there. The first one that I have is, trust me,

1067
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: it's not the same thing at all. Oh gosh, but

1068
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: that's not being reckless. There's a few things that remind

1069
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: me of Teddy Bridgewater and Jake From. And I am

1070
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: not a Jake From a fan. I think going to

1071
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 1: pick him in round two, I think that's a wasted pick. Okay,

1072
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: But some of the things and the question marks that

1073
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 1: were coming out about Teddy Bridgewater, some of the things

1074
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: that you talked about him, well, was his arm strength.

1075
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: It's not there is not enough arm strength, but pretty

1076
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 1: good touch, pretty good accuracy. You look at him in college,

1077
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: oh you had they had a bunch of you know,

1078
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: eight man boxes. You know, he had to deal with

1079
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: that a lot. Kind of see that with Jake From

1080
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: a little bit we watched on tape. Some of the

1081
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: same questions about him. You have size issues with him,

1082
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: you have arm strength questions with him, but accuracy, game

1083
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: manager type, those type of stereotypes. I mean I kind

1084
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: of see the same thing exactly what Jake From is.

1085
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean with the running backs he played with,

1086
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: that's no surprise and that's yeah. I never He's the

1087
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: classic case of like I don't know, if you're if

1088
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: you're a quarterback that's worth draft drafting high, then I

1089
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: should see you like really elevate your team, you know

1090
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like elevate make plays that out of

1091
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: this world plays carry your team to wins that maybe

1092
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: they shouldn't have had otherwise. I don't know if I

1093
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: ever saw that from Jake From I think you occasionally

1094
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: saw that with Justin Herbert and Oregon. Yeah. Uh. It's

1095
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: a little more difficult with Utah State because when Utah

1096
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: State's coach left it when went to Texas Tech, Jordan

1097
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 1: Love was not left with much to work with it

1098
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: Utah State. I mean, that's that's a tough part of

1099
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I mean I remember thinking similar things about

1100
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: Jared Goff. Honestly, it was like, is cal really accomplishing

1101
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: as much as they should be? If Jared Goff is

1102
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick, that's all? And that's always

1103
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: just dangerous, like go trust what you're watching type thing.

1104
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 1: When I watched Jake from I don't always see a

1105
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: guy who is as accurate as you may read about,

1106
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, I was like watching it going even even

1107
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: that the combine I ask consistent as people really make

1108
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: them out to be, he's not. He's not a lot

1109
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: on accuracy, and that's kind of one thing I've had

1110
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: to knock on him too. There's there's throws every down

1111
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: again where it's like, what are you doing? Yeah, Bridgewater

1112
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: was a much better college player. Again, That's why it's

1113
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: a reckless comp There's gotta be a lot of criteria

1114
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: that goes along with this. Let's move it along to

1115
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: the next one. Hit me, Clyde Edwards Hilaire from LSU

1116
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: there running back to go Tigers. I see Devonte Freeman. Really,

1117
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: you don't see DeVante Freed at all. Tough runner, able

1118
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: to kind of jump cut, getting lateral. Sometimes he will

1119
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: run through people. He's a bowling ball. And then no

1120
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: one really talks about his hands too much, like they're

1121
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: talking about how much of a runner is you know what.

1122
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: Coming out of Florida State, no one really talked about

1123
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: Davante Freeman as a pass catcher. They quickly learned, oh

1124
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 1: wait he can, yeah, because he went to the Falcons

1125
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 1: and they started to use him. So I think Clyde

1126
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: Edwards Hilaire Davonte Freeman makes a lot of sense. I

1127
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: think he probably goes you know, round two. I'm gonna

1128
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: go real snob on you real quick. It's Elaire. Oh dude,

1129
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 1: trust me, I've ever been one of those like pronunciation police.

1130
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm from the country man, I pronounced toilet toolet Oh, yeah,

1131
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 1: it's like I like it. I still choose day man.

1132
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: It's fine. I'm not professional broadcaster guy. I've never been that.

1133
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: I saw. I saw a mock draft that had Clyde

1134
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: going to the chiefs as if they need another weapon. Man,

1135
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: that's got fun. That would be really, that would be

1136
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: really fun to watch. I like. No, I like that

1137
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: comp a lot because I mean Freeman really he came

1138
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: on so much because of his abilities as a pass catcher,

1139
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: and I absolutely see Clyde doing something similar. I've always

1140
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: kind of looked at Clyde as a guy almost like

1141
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: a Frank Gore type, where it's kind of just a

1142
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: stocky bowling ball, and I know he's a little bit

1143
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: more lateral to go Gore's straight line straight up the middle.

1144
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: And I don't think they running size, but I'm talking

1145
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: about size in general. I think it just kind of

1146
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: That's what it reminded me on tape. Now, if you

1147
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: want to get a little bit more, go for it, Clyde.

1148
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 1: I mean, and I get it. It's an easy it's

1149
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 1: too easy because they're both short. But Clyde just reminds

1150
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,959
Speaker 1: me of darren Sproles impossible to tackle a low center

1151
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: of gravity. Yeah, all of his strength is in his

1152
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: lower body. Can cut on a dime, pieces catches the

1153
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: ball well, I mean Sprawls especial. I mean he's been

1154
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: great everywhere, but man, he was so Sprawls is a

1155
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: little thinner though, isn't he He's I mean Sprawls is

1156
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: even smaller than Sure. Yeah, you know, but just their

1157
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: games are so similar to I just less gimmicky. I mean,

1158
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: Clyde is more of a every down and back. Yeah,

1159
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: he can do that. You know, look at me at

1160
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: fifty five catches last year. He showed on tape that

1161
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: he could be a pass catcher. You know what. Devantae

1162
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: Freeman come out of college. I think he had about

1163
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: that many catches in three years at Florida stew I

1164
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: mean he never had a year of more than twenty catches.

1165
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: I mean he got to the NFL and I remember

1166
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: we were watching him. I loved him coming out of

1167
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: the draft. It was at twenty fourteen or whatever year

1168
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: that was. And one of the things that I had

1169
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: checked over the oh he could catch. They just gotta

1170
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: go somewhere where he's used in that regard Atlantis, dumping

1171
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: it off to him all the time, and he shows everyone.

1172
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: Let's keep it going. We're short on time, Donovan, People's jones.

1173
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 1: He's a wide receiver from Michigan. Yes, he's a he's

1174
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: a workout warrior. Was workout warrior. Production was question questionable? Okay,

1175
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: did not I'm not okay, sorry, keep cutting you off. Well,

1176
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: my reckless comp for him is Josh Dockson both six

1177
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: two both, you know, right around that four five forty

1178
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: sub four or five guy jump ball Guys, you know,

1179
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: don't always see everything you want to see consistently. You

1180
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: don't always see great route running. But when it was

1181
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: time to throw the ball up to a guy, you know,

1182
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: that's what happened at their schools. And you know Dockson

1183
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: went in the first round. People's Jones is not gonna

1184
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: go in the first round. He did not knew near

1185
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: enough to be drafted that high. But some teams going

1186
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: to take a shot on him, and it wouldn't surprise

1187
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: me if he ended up in the top one hundred,

1188
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: just because he's got freaky athletic traits and he could

1189
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: be a you know, way more than what he was

1190
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: in college. As long as we're talking about it was

1191
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: Docks in twenty seventeen. Don't don't worry about it, because

1192
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: I got it a tough one. I got a receiver cop.

1193
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: I think I've told you that before and I actually

1194
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: and you didn't like it. I don't care, um, James Proche, Okay, Well,

1195
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: like this reminds me of DJ Moore, which I know

1196
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: remember you saying, Jo He's not I mean, he's not

1197
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: going in the first round, man, But I love DJ

1198
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: Moore so much because, like, not the most imposing guy,

1199
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking at him. He's five eleven two fifteen,

1200
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: like he could he could be a running back if

1201
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: he wanted to be. And Proche is a little lighter,

1202
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: but he's he's five. He's almost five eleven two oh

1203
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: one was his combine measurement. And like they look like

1204
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: running backs when they get the ball in their hand,

1205
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: like they're just they're hard to tackle, they have incredible

1206
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: vision and then obviously Proche catches everything you throw his way. Yeah,

1207
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: I and more power to this receiver class because if

1208
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: that's going to push him down. You talk about a

1209
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: fourth round pick, that would make me do a backflip.

1210
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: James proche and I mean, yeah, he's not a first

1211
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: round pick like DJ Moore, but I just think their

1212
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: games are really similar. There's a history with those SMU

1213
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: wide receivers too, Dallas Day Guy as well, Dallas Day Guy.

1214
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: This we're not gonna spend a lot of time on

1215
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 1: same uniform. Marsham Lattimore, Jeffrey Okuda Ohio State. Both clear

1216
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: number one cornerbacks in the class. I've got that both

1217
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: fluid and man cover corners. Just ridiculous. kJ Hill from

1218
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Jarvis Landry, wow se, holy cow, bring it outs, reckless,

1219
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: Neither guy gonna blow up the combine. Both find a

1220
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: way to get open went with their smarts. Highly competitive

1221
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: attitudinal guys, and not in a bad way, in a

1222
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: way that's good. You know that guy who's it's third

1223
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: and four, I'm gonna get it to this guy and

1224
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: he'll go get the catch for me, is gonna find

1225
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: a way to get enough separation. And you don't always

1226
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: know how because they're not burners, but they just do

1227
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: a great job of manipulating the defender. Just a guy

1228
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: that understands how to get open. kJ Hill is a

1229
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: poor man. Jarvis Landry and I think that's very interesting.

1230
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: I love that com I want to go. I know

1231
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: we're running out of time, but the Lattimore Accuda pick

1232
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: just perked my interest because Lattimore was similarly hyped to Akuda,

1233
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: like can't miss number one cornerback prospect. He fell to

1234
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: eleven Hammy, he chronic Cammy, he had Hamster. Remember there

1235
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: are big questions. Honestly, I don't three years ago feels

1236
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: like a lifetime. You know who else in that same

1237
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: draft because another thing that Latimore had to deal with

1238
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: is Malik Hooker was also highly touted, which he fell

1239
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: as well, and he fell as well because of his

1240
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: frame and he was skinny, and teams were worried if

1241
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: he could he could tackle or whatever. But yeah, I

1242
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: can move like that and make plays on the ball.

1243
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: Then you don't think about it. I just I mean it.

1244
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: I just wonder because I could see Okuda going number

1245
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: three overall. I could also see him quote unquote sliding

1246
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: to the lowered ten like, yeah, eight or nine, not

1247
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: a huge slide, but it's not out of the realm

1248
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: of possibility. Derek Brown of Auburn. If it's a tackle

1249
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: a Keem Hicks Chicago Bears big time playmaker. Uh I'll

1250
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: just spend a lot of time on that one though,

1251
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: Zach Bond, Wisconsin, go ahead and do it. Just just

1252
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 1: Kyle van Noy, Okay, go no, it's going to see Yeah,

1253
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: really not that similar at all, cal van Noy. You've

1254
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: watched van Noy, who now with Detroit, but after years

1255
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: with the Patriots, we've all seen him. He's back in

1256
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: New England now he was with Detroit. Yeah, sorry, Detroit

1257
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: traded him for a sack of nuts. He turned into

1258
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: a great player when you watched him. Not only does

1259
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 1: he rushed the pastor, but he can cover two. And

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Speaker 1: that's what you see with Zach Bond. What is the

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Speaker 1: team going to do with him both in that kind

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Speaker 1: of six two sixty three range? Uh So, I think

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Speaker 1: that's an interesting, reckless comparison. Also, not to mention Van

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Speaker 1: Noy's going to be a free agent. I believe this season, right,

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Speaker 1: I believe he is. Yeah, he's a free agents now,

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Speaker 1: I think so. I hope I think they look Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hope the Mike McCarthy Cowboys are a little more

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Speaker 1: willing to draft that type of doesn't necessarily have a

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Speaker 1: roll Swiss Army knife player where Yeah, it a great way.

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Speaker 1: That will the Patriots have built their defense that way

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Speaker 1: and it's been one of the best in the league.

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Speaker 1: Now we are out of time, But I want to

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Speaker 1: jump in on the fund here because I haven't given

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Speaker 1: a compo gonna cap this off. Jalen Hurts. What's the

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Speaker 1: question around Jalen Hurts? Caccuracy, process the field, processing the field,

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Speaker 1: a little bit of recklessness, release, different kind of fundamentals.

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Speaker 1: So what do you got. I'm gonna make everyone in

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Nation upset right now? Okay, Dak Prescott. Comparison between

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts way more way winter athletic than Dak. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: way more athletic. But Dak's got his pluses a little

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Speaker 1: bit more so than Jalen. On another couple of things,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts go in on a good team and go

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Speaker 1: win games. I think so if he goes to the

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Speaker 1: right system, I think you probably could. They're probably gonna

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Speaker 1: go right around third and fourth round in March of

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Speaker 1: his draft process. I don't think anybody believed that about Dak. No,

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Speaker 1: so no, but this whole thing, if we've spent all

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Speaker 1: these years like killing Lenahan and Garrett, but in that

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen year. That was the perfect thing for day.

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Speaker 1: Really was that system, Like that situation was really good,

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Speaker 1: I think. I mean, it's always interesting, so oh, use

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Speaker 1: pro days out of the way. Jalen Hurts killed it.

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Speaker 1: He had an awesome workout. Great. I tend I don't

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Speaker 1: value Pro Days for quarterbacks that much because you're throwing

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Speaker 1: to two guys who've been throwing to all year. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and it's scripted to be in your favor, you know,

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Speaker 1: like you're obviously you're going to throw routes that you

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Speaker 1: feel good about, no doubt. But I can knock the

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Speaker 1: guy like, he looked great. I mean, I wonder what

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Speaker 1: his ceiling is like. I don't think I would draft

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Speaker 1: him in the second round, no, but I mean somebody might.

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Speaker 1: Somebody might take a chance. I can convince myself that

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Speaker 1: somebody would. For think somebody might if they'd need a

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Speaker 1: premium backup or they've got a veteran aging quarterback. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's a way to go. I'm not saying any of

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Speaker 1: these guys will be successful, but as long as we're

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Speaker 1: being reckless, I think I would feel better drafting Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts than not just Jake from but Jacob Eason as well.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm not sold on either of those guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm not and I'm not saying. I'm not saying I'm

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Speaker 1: sold on Jalen Hurts as an NFL quarterback, but I

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Speaker 1: think there's more potential there. Sure. Well, we've been reckless

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Speaker 1: with our comps and we've also been reckless with our

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Speaker 1: time because we're about five minutes over. But that's gonna

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