1 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: What's that at the bed. It's spooky and kooky. I'm 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: really sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, Hey, 3 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm gusted I gos Nandas please Hey boo, it's me 4 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: Roz and welcome to Gusta by Roz Hernandez, the podcast 5 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: where I like to talk to people that I like 6 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: about the paranormal. I got to talk to you the 7 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: hilarious actor, comedian and paranormal enthusiast Rob Hubel, who came 8 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: with some stories, and we're gonna get to that in 9 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: a moment. But first, here's a story from a listener 10 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: named Emily. Emily writes, when I was sixteen, I had 11 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: my first job at a candy store that was on 12 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: the street level of a very old, closed hotel. This 13 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: hotel is a historical landmark and is known to be haunted. 14 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: I didn't believe in go, so I didn't think anything 15 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: of it. One morning, I was opening the store by myself. 16 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: I got there early to prepare for opening and locked 17 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: the front door behind me. The bathroom was shared with 18 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: the business next door, so there was a door that 19 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: locked from each business that entered into a small room 20 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: which then led to the bathroom. Okay, I'm trying to 21 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: picture this. Before the store opened, I took my apron 22 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: off and went peep. When I tried to get back 23 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: into the store, the door was locked. I was locked 24 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: in the tiny room between both businesses and the bathroom. 25 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: I know I unlocked this door because I got myself 26 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: in there. I know nobody else could have locked the 27 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: door because I was in the store alone and I 28 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: had locked the front door. The business that shared this 29 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: restroom was a restaurant that wasn't going to be open 30 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: for several hours. The next employee wasn't going to be 31 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: at the candy store for several hours. I left my 32 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: phone in my apron pocket, so I couldn't call for help. 33 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: I was panicking, crying, trying the door, crying some more, 34 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: trying the door again. It was fucking locked. I sat 35 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: in there and cried for several minutes. I was so scared. 36 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: Eventually I calmed myself down, stood up, took a deep breath, 37 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: and tried the door again. This time it was unlocked. 38 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: Did I just get pranked by a ghost? Did this 39 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: happen because I would tell people I didn't believe in ghosts? 40 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: Is this how the ghost was telling me, I'm here, bitch. 41 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: After this, I believe in ghost and I never peed 42 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: there again. Honestly, I would dehydrate myself on workdays so 43 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: I could make it through a shift without peeing. On 44 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: other occasions, my boyfriend and I heard footsteps running in 45 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: the hallway of the closed hotel above the store. Other 46 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: employees told me they had heard footsteps when they were 47 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: working alone too. Emily, Oh, that's terrible when you have 48 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: to go peepe. Every time I've stayed at a haunted hotel, 49 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: I do the same thing. It's not good, but I 50 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: like make sure I barely. I'll just have like a 51 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: sip of water just to wet my mouth because there's 52 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: no way I'm getting up in the middle of the night. 53 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: I totally feel you well, Thank you, Emily. Okay, let's 54 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: talk to Rob Hubel and with the show you guys. 55 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: I am joined by Rob Hubel. Hello, Hi, I'm so 56 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: happy you're here. I'm actually a fan of yours and 57 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: I've seen you a billion times and a billion things. 58 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: That's so nice. Thank you. 59 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: I think you're hilarious. 60 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 2: Thank you. 61 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: Transparent is one of my favorite TV shows of all time. Yeah, girl, 62 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: and you were not that funny on it, but you 63 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: were really good, and I was like, damn, okay. 64 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: I know I had to kind of be sort of 65 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: the bad guy. Yeah, I was the bad guy at 66 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 2: the beginning, and then they kind of like had me 67 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: come around a little bit. But that show was like, 68 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: you know, really, I don't know, it was just like 69 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: life changing, you know. I mean I got to meet 70 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: so many great people and just to be included in 71 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: that story was super fun. But just the whole process 72 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: was amazing. I mean that's a different podcast, but I 73 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: can tell you about that sometimes. 74 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: Oh I love it. 75 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 76 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: I brought you here today to talk about ghosts, Oh 77 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: my god, which is also something that you have dabbled 78 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: in as well. 79 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: I dabble well, yeah, I always tell people, because I 80 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,119 Speaker 2: was telling you that I talk a little bit about 81 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 2: ghosts every now and then on Twitch, and I kind 82 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 2: of preface it with like, I don't know, I don't 83 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, but you don't know either, so shut up, 84 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, yeah, people, some people 85 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: are like, oh, no way, and I'm like, you don't 86 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: fucking know. No one knows, so let's just talk about it. 87 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: Yes, this is something that I deal with all the time. 88 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I have this weekly podcast and then I 89 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: do television show where I ghost hunt, and I'm constantly 90 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: having people come to me looking for answers and very 91 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: disappointed when I say I can't give you an answer 92 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: to the unknown. Nuh, yeah, that's what it is. 93 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: Okay, it's not Ghostbusters. It was Ghostbusters. That would be a. 94 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: Movie exactly, a franchise, right, And like, I get it, 95 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: because you know, you're always looking for authority, like we 96 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: are just as humans looking for If we have, I 97 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: don't know, a bone problem, we go to a doctor 98 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: that specializes in that, like whatever we are, a law 99 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: a problem, we go to a lawyer, like we we 100 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: want that. But it's like, yeah, when you have an 101 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: invisible person in your house, you will find people that'll 102 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: tell you I'll get to the bottom of it, But 103 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: I don't really know that you ever will, and I don't. 104 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: I think more so it's about trying to manage it 105 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: or you know, it's like I don't I don't want 106 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: some kind of invisible force to make your life hell, 107 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: but I don't necessarily know that. I could tell you 108 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: one hundred percent this was a demon. Yeah, and this 109 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: demon lived in the in Hell in sixteen hundred and 110 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. 111 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody can. I listen, I met ed 112 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: and Lorraine Warren stop. Yeah, like a million years ago. 113 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: We were shooting a ghost thing in New York and 114 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: had them come on this thing and we interviewed them, 115 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 2: and I can kind of tell, like off camera, like 116 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: they don't really know exactly, you know, like they've done 117 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: it a lot, Like they go to these things, but 118 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: they don't really know what this thing is. You know. 119 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: It's like everyone's just trying to figure it out. 120 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do think you can do a bunch 121 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: of study, Like a lot of people around the world 122 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: for decades and decades have done studies, and you can 123 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: look at their conclusions and sort of, you know, use 124 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: those as theories to what it could be. But yeah, 125 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: it's hard to say definitively. I have to know about 126 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: and Lorraine Warren. So what were you doing with them? 127 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, very sexy couple, very very sexy couple. 128 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, vera for Mega and Patrick Wilson. 129 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I met them in their older year and I 130 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: think they probably have both passed away by now. They 131 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: have yeah, I think I met them like fifteen twenty 132 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: years ago. And before I did any comedy, I just 133 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: worked in production, like on different shows in New York. 134 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: I came up in New York in the comedy improv world, 135 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: and so my day job was just working on different shows, 136 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: like I worked on the Martha Stewart Show for a while, 137 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: and I worked on The Daily Show. I worked for 138 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: Michael Moore. So I just jumped around on a lot 139 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: of different projects. And one of these production companies I 140 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: worked for was doing a Halloween thing for AMC. You 141 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 2: know how you know that channel AMC. They used to 142 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: do this thing during Halloween where they would show thirty 143 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: days of horror movies, and so they had like a 144 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: host that would do intros and outros for all of 145 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: these scary movies. And when I worked for them, we 146 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: were shooting with Tim Burton and he was the host 147 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: and he was introing all of these spooky movies, and 148 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: so my job. They wanted to actually shoot in real 149 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: houses or buildings that had had real paranormal activity. So 150 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: they said, go out and find some places for us 151 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: to shoot in New York or New Jersey or Connecticut. 152 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: So fun, I was like, Yes, So I got to 153 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: go and just location scout all of these places. So 154 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 2: one summer, I just drove around in my car to 155 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: all of these different places I was reading about on 156 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: the internet, and I talked to like all these different 157 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: homeowners and people that owned hotels and bed and breakfasts 158 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: and all that stuff. So I was like a kid 159 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 2: in a candy store. I was just like hearing their 160 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: stories and getting freaked out. So we ended up shooting 161 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: at a couple different places that the producers loved, and 162 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: one of them was this farmhouse in New Jersey, out 163 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: in New Jersey where this family had just been like 164 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: terrorized by all this crazy stuff for years. And I'm 165 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: sure that it's in a movie it's like the Amityville 166 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: Horror but it wasn't the Amityville Horror house. It was 167 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: a different house. So, long story short, we had the 168 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: Warrens come out for a day and we interviewed them, 169 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: and you know, they were like very old and frail, 170 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: but lovely and nice but also spooky and kind of 171 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: creepy but sexy but very sexy. So they were super nice, 172 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: but I could tell like, I don't know, you know, 173 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: you can just kind of tell like, oh, this is 174 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 2: a business, like this is what they this is their thing. 175 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 2: You know, they weren't like floating around in like a 176 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: ghost car, and you know they were they they were, 177 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: but they were they were super nice. But I had 178 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: a crazy thing happened to me on the shoot. Yeah, 179 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: at this house, this farmhouse, this family had just years 180 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: of insane paranormal activity. And the wife told us a 181 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: story how her husband was away and one night she 182 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: like felt him climb into bed with her, and she 183 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: kind of reached behind her in bed to sort of 184 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: like feel her husband, and she just felt this hairy 185 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: like wolf like there was like some sort of spirit 186 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: thing next to her. There was like a some kind 187 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: of demon or something. And the way she described it, 188 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: she was like I could no longer talk. I just 189 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: started growling and I was like what. But they had 190 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: all these stories. She told me a story about she 191 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 2: would regularly see this woman brushing her hair in the mirror, 192 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 2: Like she would just watch this woman brush her hair 193 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: in the mirror all the time. Her kids had crazy 194 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: stories about like when they were teenagers being like pinned 195 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: in their beds, like where they couldn't move, and then 196 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: one of them like floated above their bed, and the 197 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: kids were so freaked out that they came to the 198 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: house as adults when we were there, because they were like, 199 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: oh cool, a TV crew is shooting something. But they 200 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: would not go in the house. And we were going 201 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: in the house, but the kids would like they're like no, no, no, no, 202 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 2: no no, we don't go in that house anymore. And 203 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: so as the day wore on, we finally went up 204 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: to the attic where a lot of this ghost stuff 205 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: had kind of happened. So we went up there and 206 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: we're interviewing the man that owned the home, the dad, 207 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: and he very casually says how on his property he 208 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: found a ton of human skulls, basically a Native American 209 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: burial ground that he had like dug up. It was like, 210 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: you know the part of the movie where he'd be like, no, 211 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: don't do that. So he was like collecting skulls, cleaning 212 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: them off, and bringing them up to the attic. So 213 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: he did that for a while, and then that just 214 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 2: started all of this crazy stuff happening, you know. And 215 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: so as he was telling this story, I was a 216 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: production assistant on this thing, so I'm just like taking 217 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: notes and writing down everything, and I was sitting cross 218 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: legged on the floor right when he gets the part 219 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: about like and then I found the skulls. I got 220 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: this crazy sensation on the bottom of my feet as 221 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: if I'd stepped on like a live electrical wire. So 222 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 2: I screamed. I was like, ah, and I jumped up. 223 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: I didn't see anything, I didn't hear anything. I just 224 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 2: got zapped. And you know, I'm just a dumb PA 225 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: on this shoot. So the director and everybody's looking at me, like, 226 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: what are you screaming about? Now we have to do 227 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: the start the interview again. I was like, I'm so sorry, guys, 228 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: something just like zapped me. It was just a really 229 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: weird thing. And you know, bad vibes all day in 230 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 2: the house, super creepy old farmhouse. And then of course 231 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: at the end of the day we shot there all day, 232 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: it got dark and they were like, okay, we need 233 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: to get an exterior shot of this house. So they 234 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: set up all these lights outside shining up on the 235 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: house to make it look super creepy. And they look 236 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: and they're like, oh no, there's a light on up 237 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: in the attic. Rob can you go and the. 238 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: Dark house by yourself? 239 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: By yourself and kill that light upstairs in the attic. 240 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: And I was like, wait, what, I have to go 241 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: back in this devil house by myself and turn out 242 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: this light in the attic. I was like, sure, sure, guys, 243 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: no problem. So I run back inside as fast as 244 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: I can run. I run all the way up to 245 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: the attic, turn off the light. Just a whole I like, literally, 246 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: I'm just floating out of it, like just flying out 247 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: of the house. I mean, more scared than I've ever 248 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: been after, especially after I got zapped by a ghost. 249 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: So that was my only sort of like physical thing 250 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: that I've ever felt, you know where I thought like, oh, 251 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: that was something. I don't know what that was. I 252 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: wasn't standing on the floor, it couldn't have been anything 253 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: I was standing on at my feet were you know, crossed. 254 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: So something just zapped me. Right when this guy is 255 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: talking about these human skulls that he collects, I can't 256 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: explain it. 257 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: That's some like when you're a production assistant on just 258 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: not that kind of a show that goes to those 259 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: places all the time, and then you're there like you're 260 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: you're a human. So if you get zapped, you might scream, 261 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: but I've worked with people that have worked on like 262 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: a billion of these shows, and I've been like shooting 263 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden I see out of 264 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: the corner of my eye them like swatting their leg 265 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: or like doing something where I'm like, what's going on 266 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: over there? 267 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: That is so crazy? The show that you do? Are 268 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: you guys like up all night? 269 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: Yes? 270 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 271 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: Well, so this show that i'm it's called Living for 272 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: the Dad. It's on Hulu, and I'm with four other people, 273 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: and the other four are way more like fine with 274 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: all this stuff, Like I'm just I'm like you, if 275 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: I get zapped, I'm gonna yell okay. And every place 276 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: we would go, I would put us in haunted rooms 277 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: and then we would have to sleep there all night, 278 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: and I never I never slept. What I would do 279 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: was I would wait until the sun came up, and 280 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: then I would sleep for a couple of hours, but 281 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: I would stay up all night. It was hell for me, 282 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: especially because every single little thing I would hear. These 283 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: are all old buildings, so if somebody flush is a toilet, 284 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: it's like you hear it in the walls, and that 285 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: would instantly make me the demon in the walls. 286 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was listening to a different podcast about paranormal 287 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: stuff recently, and someone was telling a story and they 288 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: were like, so then the ghost, like you know, touched 289 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: me and I jumped and I was terrified, but then 290 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: I went back to sleep. I'm always like, how how 291 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: are you going back to sleep? 292 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 293 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: I used to do a show called Children's Hospital, Yes, 294 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: with Rob Cordery and Lake Bell and Meghan Malalley and 295 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: a bunch of people, and so we every season shot 296 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: here in La but we always had to find a 297 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: new hospital to shoot in. You know, we would film 298 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: in an old, abandoned hospital. One time we shot in 299 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: the Scrubs hospital where they used to shoot Scrubs, and 300 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: then that got torn down and made into apartments. So 301 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: we had to find a new hospital. So we were 302 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: always moving around to different old, spooky hospitals. And one 303 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 2: season we were filming in this hospital and we were 304 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 2: shooting at night. I remember in this wing of the 305 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: hospital that I had not been in before. It was 306 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 2: like way back in this other corner of the hospital 307 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: that no one had been to. And so they called 308 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: me to set, and so I'm walking to set and 309 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: like looking at my lines, and I'm by myself, and 310 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 2: I walked past this room and I heard all of 311 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 2: these kids playing in this room, like I heard like 312 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 2: talking and you know, just the sound of normal kids 313 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 2: hanging out playing like you know, toys and ball bouncing 314 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Our show was called Children's Hospital. 315 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: We had kids sometimes on the show, so I just assumed, Oh, 316 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: that must be the holding room for the kids. So 317 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 2: I kept going and I get to set and I said, 318 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: what are we doing with all those kids? There's no 319 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: it's like nighttime and there's no kids in this scene, Like, 320 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: why are there kids still here? And everybody was like, 321 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: what are you talking about? I said, I just walked 322 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 2: past the room and I heard all these kids laughing 323 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: and playing. And then about two minutes later, Malin Ackerman, 324 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: who was also on the show, shows up and she 325 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: was like, what was that room with all those kids? 326 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: Like all those kids are playing around, and I was like, 327 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: that's what I said. I was like, there's no kids here, 328 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: what are you talking about? And so I went back 329 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 2: to the room that I walked past. I opened up 330 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: the door and it was just a completely dilapidated, empty 331 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: room where the ceiling had caved in from like water damage. 332 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: Nothing in there, no furniture, the tiles on the floor 333 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 2: were all buckled. I don't know what that was. I 334 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: have no idea what that was. I heard it, Malin 335 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: heard it. We talked about it. I have no clue. 336 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: That is so creepy. 337 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 2: Listen, I've spent a lot of time in old, spooky 338 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 2: hospitals from doing that show. 339 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: Was that the Linda Vista hospital. 340 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: We shot at that hospital. Also that where this happened 341 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: was not Linda Vista. I think this happened in the 342 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: Scrubs hospital. Now it's apartments, but great, I'd love to 343 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: live there. Oh yeah, that's the thing. 344 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 1: Any hospital is going to be haunted, like it doesn't 345 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: matter like dilapidated or current. There's gonna be some ghosts 346 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: around there. 347 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: Think about all of the people that have died and 348 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: don't know that they're dead, or they you know, they 349 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: were in some sort of trauma that you know, they 350 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: weren't expecting to die. I mean, it just sort of 351 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: the little bit that I understand about it, It seems like, oh, yeah, 352 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: this is a place where tons and tons of people 353 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: have died over the years. There's going to be some 354 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: sort of weird energy and stuff there. 355 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: I love the thought, like you're making me think about 356 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: your first story. There's a woman that combs her hair. 357 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: There's children playing in this other story, and it's like 358 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: we all see that kind of stuff every day whatever, 359 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: But if it's not supposed to be there, and you know, 360 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: disappears in front of your eyes, it's the scariest thing 361 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: in the entire world. Children playing. 362 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: I think kids are inherently creepy. The other night, the 363 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: other night, I was watching TV and my daughter was 364 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: asleep and I swear I heard like dad, and I 365 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, honey, I thought she woke up. I 366 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: went into her room to like look fast asleep, and 367 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 2: I was like, gross, this is a gross little ghost person, 368 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 2: you know. So kids are very scary anyway, but yeah, 369 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: it was. It was really weird when when that happened. 370 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: And I remember Rob Cordrey and I used to always 371 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: talk to this one guy on the crew whose name 372 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 2: was Artie. He was like a gaffer, like one of 373 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 2: they that lays all the cable, all the electrical cables, 374 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: you know, before you start filming, so the production has 375 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 2: electricity and all that stuff. So he has to go 376 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: in to the basement of the hospital and lay all 377 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 2: of the electrical cables. This guy was like really shy, 378 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: did not like to talk about this stuff at all. 379 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 2: And eventually, you know, he was on our crew for years, 380 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: and so somehow people figured out that I like spooky 381 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 2: places and ghosts, and they're like, oh, you should talk 382 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: to Artie. So I kind of like said, hey, man, 383 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: someone said I should ask you about ghosts or whatever. 384 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 2: And he was very not down to talk, but slowly 385 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 2: I got him to like tell me what his deal was. 386 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 2: And he said that he just grew up with the 387 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: ability to basically see ghosts everywhere, like everywhere he goes 388 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 2: where there is some sort of paranormal thing, he sees it. 389 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: And he said that his mom also had this same thing, 390 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: like she would walk into a church or an old 391 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 2: building or something like and they would just see a 392 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: person walk by that was not not living, you know. 393 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 2: And so he said, you know, for years, he was 394 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 2: freaked out. He thought he was crazy. He told his dad. 395 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 2: His dad did not like this sort of shit. So 396 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: he finally told his mom and his mom was like, 397 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 2: I have the same thing, Like, oh my god. So 398 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 2: they like connected over that. But anyway, so this guy's 399 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: on our crew and is always having to get there early. 400 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: He's the first one there and he's the last one 401 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: there to take all these electrical cables out of the buildings. 402 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 2: And so he would tell us about going down into 403 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,719 Speaker 2: the basements of the hospital because that's always where the 404 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 2: morgue is. He would just tell me. He's like, oh, 405 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: so many days I go down there and I just 406 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: see people walking by, And he said, the problem is 407 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: for me if I acknowledge them, like if I look 408 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: at them, they know that I can see them, and 409 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: they start screaming at me, like trying to get my attention. 410 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: So he's like, I have to basically like look at them, 411 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: but not connect with them, like not make eye contact 412 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: with him, because then they know that they can connect 413 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: with me somehow. This is just a normal dude who 414 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: was not at all eager to talk. 415 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: About this stuff that seems legit to me. 416 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was just like, look, man, he was like, 417 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: I don't know what this is. I don't like it, 418 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 2: but this is what I see. And a lot of 419 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 2: the places where we are in these old hospitals. 420 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: You know, probably my favorite kind of ghost story is 421 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: like could it be that to those people and their reality. 422 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: They're like sometimes we see this like he seems like 423 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: he's a light gaffer, you know, like a tvation. 424 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I totally think that. Like sometimes I wonder 425 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 2: if this is all just almost like physics, Like it's 426 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: more like timelines, and these timelines just kind of get crossed, 427 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: you know, at certain points, and then you just sort 428 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: of see a remnant from way back. I don't know 429 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: why we don't see stuff from the future, you know, 430 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: I don't. 431 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: Well, we might, you know, yeah knows, maybe even aliens 432 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: are us from the future. I don't know. 433 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 2: I totally think that. I mean that's a different topic, 434 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 2: but yeah, that's sort of my theory about aliens, like, oh, 435 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: well that's us, right, that's just us in the future 436 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 2: coming back and being like, what are you guys doing? 437 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: Don't build that nuclear reactor, right, you know what I mean. 438 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm open to anything, but I'm not sure 439 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: if it's a time travel thing or what it is. 440 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: But I definitely know that they are so much more 441 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: advanced than us. You know, they they figured out technology 442 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 1: that we don't know. 443 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't see like dumb aliens, you know, you 444 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 2: don't see aliens you know, you never see an alien 445 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: on a bicycle, you know. 446 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: No, you really don't see dumb ones. And that's why, 447 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: like I feel like they've crashed in the past, like 448 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: in Roswell and stuff, and they're like, Okay, listen, guys, 449 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: this is embarrassing. 450 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the one dumb guy. They're like, Reggie, 451 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: Reggie fucked up, Reggie crashed the ship. 452 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I think the take it really seriously 453 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: at this point. So when you go live on Twitch, 454 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: tell me, like the best story that you know kept 455 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: you up that night. 456 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 2: So a couple of the best ones that I've had. 457 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: One was a girl told me a story that when 458 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: she was little, she was playing in her room and 459 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: she was under her bed and she looked and she 460 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: saw a pair of bare feet walk into her room. 461 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 2: And she looked out from under the bed and it 462 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 2: was her grandmother, and her grandmother smiled at her, and 463 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 2: she smiled back at her grandmother, and then her grandmother 464 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 2: walked out of the room, and so she got up 465 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,239 Speaker 2: from under the bed and ran downstairs to ask her mom, like, 466 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 2: what is grandma doing here? And her mom was crying, 467 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 2: and her mom had just gotten off the phone that 468 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 2: the grandmother had just died. So the girl was like, 469 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 2: I literally just saw her. She was just in the 470 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: house like two seconds, you know. I mean she was 471 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: like a little kid, but she's expled mom, Like, no, 472 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 2: she's she didn't die, like I just saw her. And 473 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 2: so that freaked me out, you know, because that just 474 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 2: seems like something that could happen, right, Like, I. 475 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: Hear a lot of those like visitations right before and 476 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: then you get the phone call. Yeah, I totally buy it. 477 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: I had another one where this person sent me a video, 478 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 2: and I should preface this with I could never get 479 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: the girls on the show because the guy had lost 480 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 2: touch with them. But he had a video of these girls, 481 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: and this guy told me the story. But it was 482 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: two girls. They're like drinking before they go out that 483 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 2: night in Chicago, and they had just moved into this 484 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: new apartment, new to them, but an old apartment in Chicago, 485 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: and they're playing this drinking game where they have a 486 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: little ring on a string and they were swinging it 487 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: to try to latch it onto this little hook that 488 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what the game is, but there was 489 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 2: like a little hook on the wall. And then at 490 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: one point in this hallway right behind where this hook is. 491 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 2: You just see a young girl in a pink bathroom 492 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: walk by and then immediately walk the other way. You 493 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 2: just see like a kid in a pink, old timy 494 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: bathrobe and they just walk by for about a second, 495 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 2: maybe like a split second. I've paused in a million times, 496 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: so you can clearly see hair feet aren't like it's 497 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: so crazy. 498 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't think this is the one that I'm thinking of. 499 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: But there's this one that people send me all the time. 500 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: Maybe you've seen it. I've had people on the show 501 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: where it is two young ladies and they're in an apartment. 502 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: I can't remember what they're doing though, And then you 503 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: see somebody walk through a hallway. You see like a 504 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: lady walking through the hallway. 505 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: It sounds familiar, it sounds like this. Yeah, but it's 506 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: one of. 507 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: These things where it keeps happening where people are like, 508 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: my friend knows this person, and then I'm like, wait 509 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: a minute. 510 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: That's the hardest part about all this is like, wait 511 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 2: a second, is this are you just retelling a retelling 512 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: you know? 513 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: Which is honestly still fun. 514 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 2: It's fun. 515 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: I'm down for that anytime. 516 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: It is fun. 517 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: It's just like an old school GABA telephone. 518 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. Here's another one that 519 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 2: happened on my Twitch show to me and this other person. 520 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: She was in I think Portland, and she lived in 521 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 2: this apartment for a while, and she said that she 522 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: had this ghost in her apartment and she kind of 523 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: jokingly called him Kevin. It was close to Halloween when 524 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 2: I was doing this show, and she had this little 525 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: toy skull behind her on like a bedside table. So 526 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 2: right when she said Kevin the first time, this skull 527 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: just like fell off her table, and you know whatever, 528 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: no big deal. I was like, whoa, you know. I 529 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: tried to be funny about it and make a big 530 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: deal about did you see what happened? She was like 531 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: what happened? I was like, the skull just fell off 532 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: your bedside table right when you said the name of 533 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: the ghost. So we just laughed. She keeps talking, talking, 534 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: tell me the story and all these different times that 535 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: she's seen this ghost of this guy in her apartment. 536 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: As she goes on, she says his name again, she 537 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: says Kevin. All of a sudden, her eyes get huge 538 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: and she screams, it's something like off camera, like, you know, 539 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: beyond her laptop, and I was like, what happened? And 540 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: she's like, oh no, And she took her laptop and 541 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: swung around. And I had heard this noise, but I 542 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: didn't know what the noise was. These paintings in her 543 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: room had flown off the wall and flown like a 544 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: few feet like across the room. What and we're ripped, 545 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: like like sliced in the middle. And so she brought 546 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: her laptop over, you know, was filming it. She was like, 547 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: look what just happened? And I was like what. She 548 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: was like, these paintings just like flew off the wall 549 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: and like they're ripped, and so I was like what 550 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: the fuck? I was like, that happened as we were talking, 551 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: you know, So could she have faked all of that? Yes, 552 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: she could have been pulling my legs. She could have 553 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: set that up. But I talk to this person for 554 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: a long time, emailed her afterwards, and had her come 555 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: on the show a couple months later to get an update, 556 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 2: and she seems totally normal, not like she's trying to 557 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: get on the internet. And you know, it was just 558 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: a crazy, insane thing that happened as I was talking 559 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 2: to her. 560 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: If something like that really paranormal does happen is captured 561 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: on film, you will never ever ever have something that 562 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: doesn't make a ton of people go that's fake. Yeah, 563 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: So even if it is the most real thing ever, 564 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: it's just part of it to be skeptical and to 565 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: not believe it or whatever. And I don't know, I 566 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: love it. I think it's so fun, it's so wild. 567 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I've had I had this woman come on 568 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: the show and she told me a story about she 569 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: and her friend snuck into this old church at night 570 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: and it was dark and they were just taking pictures 571 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: and they were like hanging out in this old church. 572 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 2: And so she sent me the pictures and you can 573 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: see in one of the pictures a face next to 574 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: her of like an old man, And of course that 575 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 2: could be fake. I don't know her. She may have 576 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: faked that, but I don't know. I'm not paying her, 577 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: like she's not making any money to come on my 578 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: dumb thing and tell me about that. Another girl was 579 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: telling me about they used to see a ghost outside 580 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: of her bedroom window, and she said that she she'd 581 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: seen it a bunch, so she just had her camera 582 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: all the time, and so she took a picture same thing. 583 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: You can clearly see like this outline of a woman 584 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: out right outside her bedroom window. Yes, it could be photoshop, 585 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: it could totally be fake, but it looked like an 586 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: outline of a woman. You'll never be able to convince everybody. 587 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: And I don't think that's really the point. I think 588 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: it's more like there's something because so many people have 589 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: these stories, you know what I mean, Like when you 590 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 2: start talking to people, everyone has maybe not a firsthand story, 591 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: but everyone knows someone that has a crazy story about 592 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 2: this stuff. Yeah, that to me makes it, you know, 593 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: as real as it can be. 594 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: And every culture around the world for generations and generations 595 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: have these kinds of stories. So I'm like, there's something 596 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: to it. 597 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 2: I mean, the way the Warrens explained it to me 598 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: was that, and I'm sure you've heard this is like 599 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: there's kind of two different things. There are people that 600 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: are sort of stuck between places. They don't know what 601 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: happened to them. Maybe they died suddenly or in a 602 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: traumatic way, they weren't ready to go. It was just 603 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: like lights out all of a sudden. They're like, but wait, wait, wait, yeah, 604 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 2: so there's that they were saying, but then there's also 605 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: like demons and stuff like that, so you know, who 606 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: knows how it breaks down, but it's all spooky. 607 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: Well, sometimes they end up going instead of a doll 608 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: that ends up being sold on eBay dot com. Oh god, 609 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: can I show you a haunted eBay doll? 610 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: How often does that happen? 611 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: Thousands of times a day on eBay? Trust me, it's 612 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: time for as I call the dolls are living? Okay, jiha, 613 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: can you show us this doll? This is Mel No no, 614 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: Mal is currently going for forty dollars on eBay. So Mel, 615 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: she looks teeny tiny her, she's definitely from the neck up, 616 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: she's giving missus class very like Mal, Missus Claus. 617 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 2: The white hair, she's got the little brooch, yeah. 618 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: But whatever, those like bonnet kind of roughly hats like 619 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: Missus Claus wears. From the neck down, she's sort of 620 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: like one of those people that works in a gift 621 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: shop at like an historic Victorian house. Yeah, you know, 622 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: plaid skirt, brooch, yeah, Victorian kind of shirt. 623 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: Sad eyes, very sad leaning pleading with us. 624 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: So you're not familiar with this world of haunted eBay dolls? 625 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: Mmmm? I would like to be okay, allow me. 626 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: They often come with biographies. The theory is when you die, 627 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: you can go to heaven, you can go to Hell, 628 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: or you can go to Mel the Haunted Ebeydal. Basically, 629 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: so a living person has somehow died and found themselves 630 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: inside of Mel and now they're forty dollars. So let 631 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: me just give you a little bit of what Mel's 632 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: bio says. Mel tried to make me believe that she 633 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: was a thirty four year old female who passed away 634 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: after her daughter locked her in a room. In reality, 635 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: she was in her fifties or sixties and locked her 636 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: adult daughter in a room. She starved her daughter and 637 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't give her anything to drink. She also says something 638 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: about gas when she finally started to be honest. Sounds 639 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: like these two have been through a lot. 640 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 2: Wow. 641 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: I also asked other spirits around who told me the 642 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: true story behind this? Okay, she was jealous of her 643 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: daughter for some reason. Terrible person. I do not know 644 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: how she passed away, but it was in the middle 645 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: of nowhere where she head out. Her presence is very uneasy. 646 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: She paces back and forth and you can hear her 647 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: walking behind you, especially if you have creaky floor boards. 648 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 1: Do not have her anywhere near children. She is extremely active. 649 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: I've seen her shadow, I felt her breath. So basically, 650 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: you can't trust Mel and the other spirits around confirmed 651 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: they I love the ghost gossip, like, don't listen to Mel, 652 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: she lies. 653 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 2: So this is actually for sale on eBay forty dollars. 654 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 2: But why would I want this if you're telling me 655 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 2: up front this is gonna do bad things to me 656 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: and my family and my house and my children, Like, 657 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: do I want to pay for that? 658 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: It says you may hear of her laugh in other rooms, 659 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: which is a very scary and most witchy type laugh. 660 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: I love a laugh. Ye know, maybe there's people amateur comedians. 661 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: It's better than going too an open mic. You can 662 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: just have a doll. 663 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, just do your stand up in front of this 664 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:22,760 Speaker 2: creepy doll. Yeah. I'm also concerned about in this photo. 665 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: You know, there are some clues also about the owners. 666 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: This doll is on a very dirty carpet, and you 667 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 2: can see the carpet is like riding up the moldiest 668 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: wall I've ever seen. This doll has been through a lot. 669 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: I so appreciate you noticing that stuff, because that's me 670 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: on dating apps, I'd barely look at the person. I'm 671 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: looking around everything else. 672 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 2: I do that when I watch like MSNBC, and I'm 673 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 2: like looking in the person's living room for clues about 674 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 2: you know, who is this guy? Yeah? 675 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: What are the books back there? 676 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? This guy's a murderer. 677 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: Can I play you some ghost voices? 678 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 2: Yes? Right, it is time for ev. 679 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: Or ev pase that is. 680 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 2: That is the best name of a segment ever. 681 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: Thank you. What I do is I go to YouTube 682 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: dot com. I find the best electronic voice phenomenon. 683 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 2: I can find. 684 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: Alleged recordings of ghosts speaking, and I'm going to play 685 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: two of them for you. I want you to tell 686 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: me what the ghost is saying or what you hear, 687 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: and then I'll give you an ABCD options of what 688 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: the person that posted at believes the ghost is sign. 689 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: This is awesome. I'm so excited for this. 690 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: So this first one is from Paul Terry and it's 691 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: at Saint Albans Sanatorium in Radford, Virginia. I feel like 692 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: I may have had this one on the show before, 693 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: but whatever, it's a good one. Here we go. What 694 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 1: is this ghost saying? Did you hear it? 695 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 2: I'll do it one more time. Okay, come on, come on, wait, 696 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 2: let me play it again. 697 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: Okay, that is not what Paul Terry thought it said. 698 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: Did Paul Terry think it was a oh crap, b 699 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: don't come back? Cee? Look around or d follow me? 700 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: Maybe as an aspiring influencer, you here one more time. 701 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,919 Speaker 2: Well, from what I know about Paul Terry, great guy. 702 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 2: Paul is so such a great guy. Yeah, I think 703 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 2: Paul Terry thinks it's oh crap. 704 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: Paul believes that it is saying don't come back, which 705 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 1: I do here, but I also kind of hear oh crap. Wait, okay, 706 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: let's play a gum or look around. I don't know. 707 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 2: That's a tough one, Paul. 708 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: You definitely caught something. I don't know what it says, 709 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: but it's great. Here's one more. This one is from 710 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: a YouTube channel called walk in after Midnight. It's at 711 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: the Old Washo Club, which is a haunted place in 712 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: Virginia City, Nevada, which is a very spooky western, you know, 713 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: old Western kind of ghost towny area. What is this ghost? 714 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: There's some other noises in the background. Let me play 715 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: it again. 716 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 2: Tough one, you do it one more time? Yeah, something 717 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 2: like two chicks from Hell. Totally two chicks from Hell. 718 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: Well, that's not what Walking after Midnight thought. Did they 719 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: think it was a you can't smoke in heaven? B 720 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: you can't slow the devil? C you came, you saw 721 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: you left? Or d you came to seven eleven? All right, 722 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 1: let me play it again. 723 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 2: They thought it was the first one about you can't 724 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 2: something in hell? What was it you said? 725 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,919 Speaker 1: It was you can't smoke in heaven. That is what 726 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: Walking after Midnight thought. It said you can't smoke in heaven, and. 727 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 2: Honestly, probably true. 728 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: Let's play it again. Now. What's interesting is before that 729 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: voice speaks, the ghost hunter says something about so I 730 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 1: think they said something about like Virginia slims or something 731 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,280 Speaker 1: about cigarettes, and then the ghost says, you can't smoke 732 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: in heaven. 733 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 2: That's awesome. I got married ten years ago, nine years ago, 734 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 2: and for my bachelor party, my friend Paul sheer knew 735 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 2: that I love ghost stuff, and so he's such a 736 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 2: nice person he hired two ghost hunters to come to 737 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 2: my bachelor party. They were no, no, no, no, no, no, 738 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 2: this is just you know, I rented a house up 739 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 2: in Ohi and just invited a lot of my friends 740 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 2: just to come up and grill out and swim in 741 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 2: the pool, you know. And so at night these two 742 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 2: women show up, these like older women, and I was like, 743 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 2: what is happening, Like my fear was that it was 744 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 2: going to be strippers. I was like, I don't, I 745 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 2: do not, I don't want that. And he's like, no, 746 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 2: these are ghosts. They're like the Ohai ghost Hunters or something. 747 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 2: And so these these two women were so sincere and 748 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 2: nice about it, Like you can imagine how difficult that 749 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 2: is to walk into a bachelor party. I mean we 750 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 2: were not no one was out of control, but you know, 751 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 2: people were drinking and smoking weed and doing mushrooms and 752 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 2: you know. So these two women come in and they 753 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 2: kind of gather everyone around and they tell everyone that 754 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 2: we're going to go all over this old house in Ohi, 755 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 2: and they gave everybody EVP recorders, like the little recording devices. 756 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 2: So I'm into it, like shears into it. A few 757 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 2: other guys like, yeah, this is gonna be great. A 758 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 2: lot of the other people like outside doing stuff and 759 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 2: you know, hanging out listening to music or whatever, So 760 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 2: not the most scientific thing. So we walk around for 761 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 2: like an hour with these very nice women and we're 762 00:42:54,760 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 2: recording stuff and who knows if we're getting anything at all, 763 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 2: So I kind of forget about it, you know, it 764 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 2: was just fun and nice. A month goes by, I 765 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 2: get an email from the Ohi ghost Hunters. They're like, 766 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 2: we have to meet. We have to talk to you. 767 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 2: We have to go over the evidence. And I was like, 768 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 2: what what evidence? What are you talking about? And they're like, 769 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 2: we have some remarkable EVPs that we have to go 770 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 2: over with you. So they drove. They were so nice. 771 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 2: They drove from Ohi down to La met Me and 772 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 2: sho this production place where we were working, and they 773 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 2: had transcribed all of these EVPs with what the noise 774 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 2: we were hearing and what they thought it was saying. 775 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 2: We sat with him for like an hour and they 776 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 2: would go, okay, how about this next one? And they 777 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 2: would play it for us and you would hear like, 778 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,359 Speaker 2: hey man, pass me the budweiser, and you know, they'd 779 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 2: be like, what about that, Pass me the Budweiser. And 780 00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,280 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's actually Rob Riggle. He's outside 781 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 2: and he was asking someone for a Budweiser. You know, 782 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,760 Speaker 2: it was just over and over and over. It was like, okay, 783 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 2: but now you can hear an old man asking for 784 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 2: someone to let him out of the basement, and I 785 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 2: was like, oh, that's Brian Husky. He was on mushrooms 786 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 2: and he got locked in the basement. So that's what 787 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 2: you hear, you know, But it was just that it 788 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 2: was me and Sheer debunking all of these EVPs with 789 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 2: these very nice, very sincere ghost hunters. So if you 790 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 2: ever get a chance. 791 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 1: I love that story. 792 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 2: It's so hard. It's really hard to tell what it is. 793 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 2: But every now and then I hear stuff not from 794 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 2: my bachelor party, but stuff like what you just played me, 795 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 2: And I'm like that that sounds like something. 796 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: It's something I think, I don't know something. It might 797 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 1: be Rob Wriggle. I don't know what it was. 798 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 2: Could be Rob Wriggle. 799 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,240 Speaker 1: He might have been at the Old Was Show Club 800 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 1: in Virginia City that day. 801 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 2: He probably was, Well, this has. 802 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: Been a can you tell us all where to find 803 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: you and what you want us to know about Roz? 804 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. What a joy to talk 805 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 2: to a fellow ghost enthusiast. I'm just you know, at 806 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 2: Rob Hubel on everything, mostly Instagram, and you know, I 807 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 2: just jump around on different TV shows and sometimes a movie. 808 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 2: But I did a spooky thing last year called Goosebumps. 809 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 2: It's a Disney Plus show. Cool. 810 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 1: Well, thanks so much for doing this. 811 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 2: So lovely to meet you, and I hope that we 812 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 2: cross paths. 813 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Rob Hubel. I love you all, 814 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you 815 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: to haunt me, don't haunt me came back. This has 816 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: been an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal 817 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: experience on the podcast. I read stories out loud and 818 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,840 Speaker 1: sometimes I'll even call you, So email me at ghosted 819 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 1: by Roz at gmail dot com. You can send a 820 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,760 Speaker 1: DM or voice message to the show's Instagram at ghosted 821 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 1: by Roz. Give us a follow while you're there, and 822 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: follow me Roz on Instagram at Roz Hernandez and on 823 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez. My senior producer 824 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming 825 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed by 826 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:43,760 Speaker 1: the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying 827 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the hair raising Hannah 828 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,720 Speaker 1: Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by the spine Chilling 829 00:46:53,960 --> 00:47:01,439 Speaker 1: Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lila, Photography 830 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the Chilling 831 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 1: Karen Kilgareth, the Spookky Georgia Hard Start, and the Frightening 832 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: Danielle Kramer.