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Speaker 2: Today we have doctor Noreen Galaria. She is a dematologist

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Speaker 1: The number one food would be green tea doesn't just

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Speaker 2: If you could ban one skincare product or ingredient, what

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Speaker 1: It'll be the collagen.

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Speaker 2: How much does our collagen really go down? And I

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Speaker 1: If your listeners are tuning in for a really good cry,

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Speaker 2: I'm Razi Wuka and on my podcast a really good cry,

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Speaker 2: we embrace the messy and the beautiful, providing a space raw,

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Speaker 2: welcome back to this week's episode of A Really Good Cry.

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Speaker 2: Today we have Dr Noreen Galaria. She is a dermatologist

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited to have her here because I get

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I want to get into it because I feel

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Speaker 2: like what I've learned most from you is about edible

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, I really believe in the concept of

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Speaker 1: on a theme. Right, So if you've got pigmented skin

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Speaker 1: and you can find somebody who knows how to treat

436
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Speaker 1: pigmented skin. I think peels are great for people with

437
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Speaker 1: brown skin. I think micro needling is great. But have

438
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 1: I seen side effects from both in brown skin? Yeah,

439
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,399
Speaker 1: in the wrong hands. You know, a little too much trauma,

440
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,920
Speaker 1: a little too strong, and acid will absolutely scar you.

441
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 1: So I do think, you know, tread with caution.

442
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Speaker 2: Yes, I've noticed that. You know, I've had quite a

443
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Speaker 2: few friends who've gone to people who aren't used to

444
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 2: treating pigmented skins and they use the wrong acids, They

445
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 2: treat it a little bit too hard, and then they're

446
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 2: either got scarring them, melasma shows up even more. It

447
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 2: can be pretty traumatic. So I guess you need to

448
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 2: make sure you're going to somebody who has who's expert

449
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 2: in specifically pigmented skin.

450
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Speaker 1: Yes, And he's same with lasers, right, I've seen a

451
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 1: lot of damage from lasers that you know. Sometimes somebody

452
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Speaker 1: will come in having had a laser or even appeal somewhere,

453
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Speaker 1: and it may take me nine to ten months to

454
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Speaker 1: get their skin not even sometimes back to normal, but

455
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Speaker 1: to a point where they're kind of happy.

456
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Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's rough.

457
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Speaker 1: It's rough. It's scary because you're trying to do it

458
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Speaker 1: so you feel better about yourself and you know you're

459
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Speaker 1: trying to do good for yourself exactly.

460
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Speaker 2: I read somewhere okay, because obviously there's all these anti

461
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 2: aging products, and so I was researching and I was like,

462
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,679
Speaker 2: how much does our collagen really go down? Like do

463
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 2: we really lose that much collagen? And I read there

464
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Speaker 2: it was about one percent every single year after you

465
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Speaker 2: hit like forty tooth or lie.

466
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Speaker 1: I mean if your listeners are tuning in for a

467
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Speaker 1: really good cry, they're about to get it. So the

468
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Speaker 1: truth is, actually it's worse than what you just said.

469
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Speaker 1: So after the age of about twenty five or twenty six,

470
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Speaker 1: we lose one percent of our collagen every year. Wow.

471
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Speaker 1: And so it's kind of like a movie right where

472
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Speaker 1: we push play. So from twenty five or twenty six

473
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Speaker 1: until you know the end of our lives, we're kind

474
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Speaker 1: of going to lose one percent ish a year. And

475
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Speaker 1: if your diet is poor and you smoke and you

476
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Speaker 1: get a ton of sun, well, guess what it's going

477
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Speaker 1: to go faster. And everything that we do in dermatology

478
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: is meant to kind of temporarily push pause right on

479
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Speaker 1: that collagen loss, and if we're lucky, maybe even push rewind.

480
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Speaker 1: But you know, that journey is part of aging and

481
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Speaker 1: it's part of the beauty of also having life experiences.

482
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Speaker 1: And so I always say, I think when people will

483
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Speaker 1: really run into problems is when they're really trying to

484
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Speaker 1: get back to twenty five exactly. We don't get there,

485
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Speaker 1: you know, Like I can make you look great for

486
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Speaker 1: your age or maybe even a little younger than your age,

487
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Speaker 1: but I'm not going to get you back, like I

488
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Speaker 1: will never look twenty five. I'll look crazy if I

489
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Speaker 1: do too much, but I won't to look twenty five,

490
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Speaker 1: you know, so true. So I think that that's and

491
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Speaker 1: it's okay. I mean it's the beauty of you know,

492
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Speaker 1: the growth and the journey too, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been talking about this a lot with friends,

494
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Speaker 2: and well, one thing I will say. You have this

495
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Speaker 2: little technology that you used on me the first time

496
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Speaker 2: you saw me, Yes, And then yesterday, when I've been

497
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Speaker 2: practicing taking the inner Glow sunscreening, protecting my skin, doing

498
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Speaker 2: some of these treatments, my skin had actually aged backwards.

499
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Speaker 2: And so when my skin was younger than it was

500
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Speaker 2: the last time you saw me, and younger than I

501
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Speaker 2: actually am, you know, yes, in your actual age, yea

502
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Speaker 2: actual age. And so I thought that was really interesting,

503
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Speaker 2: not that I'm trying to look like I'm twenty again,

504
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 2: but that these small little things that you do, whether

505
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 2: it's the blueberries you're eating, whether it's protecting yourself from sunscreen.

506
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Speaker 2: You told me to tint my windows if you can, yes,

507
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 2: you know, if you're spending a lot of time in

508
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Speaker 2: the car tinting your windows. You mentioned and I did

509
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Speaker 2: that with my car research.

510
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Speaker 1: Or even on Amazon, like if somebody doesn't want to,

511
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Speaker 1: you know, go and spend money on the tin. You

512
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Speaker 1: can buy like tint just for your driver's side, like

513
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Speaker 1: a like a hole.

514
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Speaker 2: Basically it's always actually if if anybody's listening and they

515
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: look at their face, for me, I have a lot

516
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Speaker 2: more pigmentation on my left side, you do, which is

517
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Speaker 2: towards the window of the car, than I do on

518
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Speaker 2: my right side, and so you really notice, you know,

519
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: if you look at it in that way, you really

520
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 2: see the difference of the sun facing side versus or not,

521
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 2: which is incredible.

522
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Speaker 1: It's incredible. And in general in America, because we're you know,

523
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Speaker 1: left sided driver's side, people age about twenty percent faster. Wow,

524
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Speaker 1: one side, one side. And I'm going to send you

525
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Speaker 1: a picture. There's a picture of this person who drove

526
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Speaker 1: a truck for a living that gets passed around between dermatologists.

527
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Speaker 1: It looks like a grandfather and his grandson. A most wow.

528
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: Because you know, pre tinted windows, it's dramatic.

529
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Speaker 2: Okay, it's dramatic tinting windows. Yeah, you can get the

530
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Speaker 2: cute ones of Amazon is all one? Yeah, are the

531
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Speaker 2: foods for collagen boosting the same as the ones that

532
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Speaker 2: you mentioned earlier. Are there anything else specific that you recommend?

533
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: So definitely, if you're trying to boost your collagen, you're

534
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: looking at you know, berries, not s, leafy greens. If

535
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: somebody is pescatarian or eats fish, then definitely fish or

536
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: especially the skin of the fish is very high in

537
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: collagen peptides. If you're vegetarian, I would say, then you're

538
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: looking at things like probably let's see flax seed, things

539
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: with high omega, yes, avocados, you know, even soy is

540
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: very helpful. And then you know, there's a couple of

541
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Speaker 1: specific things. So one of the things that is in

542
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: our innerglow age defense is a bark that comes from

543
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Speaker 1: a tree in the south of France. It's called pignogenoal

544
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 1: and this it's just like pristine little forest in the

545
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Speaker 1: south of France that doesn't have herbicides and pesticides. And

546
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: when they test that bark from that forest, they see

547
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: that it actually will not just protect your collagen but

548
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: help build it back. Wow, and it's very good for malasma.

549
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: So we've seen that actually it can help to even

550
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: treat malasma. So that's one of the ingredients we put

551
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: into our innerglow age defense because it's hard to get.

552
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: Yes.

553
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: And then likewise, there's a fern in there called polypodium,

554
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: which actually South Americans used to brew as a tea

555
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: for you know, thousands of years because they lived on

556
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: the equator and they needed sun protection and you know,

557
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: they didn't have sunscreen, right, and so we know that

558
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: people who take this in it's like they get this

559
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: internal sunscreen. So you know, I will never say use

560
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: this instead of sunscreen, right, I will always say parent.

561
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 1: But there are benefits to taking the fern that are

562
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: beyond what sunscreen does, because it'll undo free radical damage.

563
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: It's so beautiful that nature just has everything that our

564
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 2: body needs, Like whenever I had things like I know,

565
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Speaker 2: I'm like in France, in South America, all these plants

566
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 2: and box and all these things that have been around

567
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: for thousands and thousands of years that obviously people are

568
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 2: now hearing about again. But they've been around for so long.

569
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Speaker 1: They've been around, and you know, it's more about just

570
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: kind of discovering how people in certain areas use them,

571
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: like we were in the Galapagos recently and in the

572
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: High altitude. You know, they chew on cocoa leaves, like

573
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: I think that's what cocaine comes from. And they were like, oh, miss,

574
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: if you're feel like a little lightheaded, you can chew

575
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: on this. And I was like do I okay? But

576
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: I said to my husband, I was like, you know,

577
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 1: what's fascinating is that this plant naturally grew in a

578
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: place where people would get altitude sickness, or like this

579
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: fern from South America polypodium, you know, it grew at

580
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: the equator. Like it just it's really beautiful.

581
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 2: Right, even if you think about Indian culture and the

582
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: spices and the heat that is that whether it's tumork

583
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: you're mentioning.

584
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: Yes, or ginger like all of these things, Yeah.

585
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,239
Speaker 2: They exist in the place that they need to. I

586
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: even remember when I would go in forest walks with

587
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: my family and you'd get stung by something. There was

588
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: these things called dock leaves that you used to live

589
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: next to it, yes, and it's like there would literally

590
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: be the weed that can harm you and the plant

591
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: that can heal you next tos to each other. It's

592
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: just it's beautiful. It just reminded me of that. I

593
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 2: was like, this is beautiful. Nature never fails to amaze

594
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 2: me every single day, especially when I hear things like this,

595
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 2: And it also reminds me that we don't actually need

596
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: so much more than what nature provides. You just have

597
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 2: to learn the qualities of the food that you're eating.

598
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: Like you knew that, yes, we knew that blueberries had antioxidant, right,

599
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: But if you take time to learn about each ingredient

600
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: that you're eating, you'll notice what defense it's creating for

601
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: you in your body, what it's healing in your body.

602
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: Yes, and I and you know, And I think that's

603
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: a really good point because the things I recommend to

604
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: one patient based on what they need to heal, right,

605
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: it's different from somebody else. So for example, if somebody

606
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: comes in and they have trouble managing their sugar, well,

607
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to recommend a lot of cinnamon because we

608
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: know that cinnamon is really good for a blood sugar control.

609
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: But if they have hormonal issues, maybe I'm going to

610
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: recommend spearmint tea. And if they're really sunsensitive, maybe this polypodium. Right.

611
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: So I do think there are some really good general guidelines.

612
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: But then if you're trying to use food as medicine,

613
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: treat the thing that you need to treat, right, because

614
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times the mistake people a

615
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: lot of people make is just they're kind of listening

616
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: to what somebody else is using and it may not

617
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: be ideal.

618
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: No exactly, And I think that's a responsibility that we

619
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: have to take ourselves to learn our body and then

620
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: learn the foods that we're putting into our body and

621
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: that relationship that we have between the two. I want

622
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: to go into botox because obviously living in La all

623
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: it every day, tell me what it really does and

624
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: why it's seen as a preventative.

625
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: Okay, So botox is a tiny little purified protein that

626
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: we take out of a bacteria, and that bacteria is

627
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: the same bacteria that causes botulism, yes, right, which is

628
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: why people are so afraid of it, as they should,

629
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: because nobody wants to inject botulism.

630
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: You know it's a neurotoxin, right, Yes, it's a neurotoxin.

631
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: But if you take this little purified protein out and

632
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: you put it specifically into a muscle that is creating

633
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: a wrinkle, it will temporarily decrease the activity of that muscle.

634
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: So for example, if you're always frowning and you've got

635
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: these lines, Well, if I put a little bit of

636
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: botox into the you know we call the belly of

637
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: the muscle right there, what it will do is it

638
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: will kind of weaken the action of that muscle so

639
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: that it's not strong enough to make the lines.

640
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: I know.

641
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: Oh, and so that's really what botox is doing. It

642
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: lasts for three to six months. So you know the

643
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: problem with botox, and the reason you're always hearing about

644
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: it is it's not like a you know, like a

645
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: facelift where somebody goes once and they're done right. People

646
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: are going in several times a year to their dermatologists

647
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,479
Speaker 1: to get this done. And there is evidence that if

648
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: you stop the excess movement of the muscle, then you

649
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: won't get those extrinkles lines. So it's preventative just because

650
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: if you can get it before you have wrinkles, then

651
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: you don't make the renkles the same way.

652
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: Oh, of interest, because obviously you've been seeing patients for

653
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: over twenty years now, this is genuine question. I'm just intrigued.

654
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: Do you notice excess of obsession over their looks for

655
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: people who are trying to get a lot of these

656
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: treatments versus someone who isn't like the people who are

657
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: fixated on getting those things done regularly or like trying

658
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: to fix the aging on their face. Yes, do you notice,

659
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: you know, a trend in happiness, satisfaction, contentness, all of

660
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: those things when you when you meet them, because obviously

661
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: it's dermatoigies to talk about so much when.

662
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: You're yes, yeah, I mean, and you know, and as

663
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: we're doing stuff, we talk to our patients, so especially

664
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: over twenty years, you really get to know them. I mean,

665
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: I think in the older people, like if people are

666
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: starting a little later in life, they're genuinely, you know,

667
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: just trying to age gracefully, right, right. And I love

668
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: when people come in and they say to me, Okay,

669
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: what would you recommend because a lot of people come in,

670
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: and especially the younger subset will sometimes come into me

671
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: and say, okay, I need and it's like a laundry list, right,

672
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: And that can get dangerous because I do feel, like,

673
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: you know, I've got four teenagers, so I see it

674
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: in their subset too, where there's really this focus on

675
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: kind of the outward beauty at the expense of inner

676
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: beauty sometimes right, Like so, you know, my kids will

677
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: sometimes say to me, mom, like, what is my aesthetic?

678
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: Like am I like I know, clean girl or cottage core,

679
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: you know. And I'll be like, we can describe that

680
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: to me. And they'll say like, well, clean girl aesthetic

681
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: is like I don't know, you carry as Stanley and

682
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: you you know, work out and you don't wear very

683
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: much you know, jewelry or makeup. And I'll say, well,

684
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: what about the inside, like what about like are you altruistic?

685
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: Are you empathetic? Are you you know, what's your self worth?

686
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: Like?

687
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: Right? And so I will say we're one of the

688
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: practic says that do sometimes, you know, really discourage people

689
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: from getting a lot of procedures because I don't want

690
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,479
Speaker 1: someone to think a procedure will make them happier, right,

691
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: it won't. You have to do the self work. And

692
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: I think people who are like well if I was

693
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: just a little more this, like if this was just

694
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: a bit this or this was just a bit that

695
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: I would be so much happier. Those people always find

696
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: that that's not true, you know. So I think I

697
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: want to make people look and feel their best, and sometimes,

698
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes that ends in me saying hey, why

699
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: don't we talk to somebody about X, Y or Z

700
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: and then let's circle back to this.

701
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: You know, that's a really good point. No, I appreciate

702
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: what you shed on that, actually, because I think there's

703
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 2: such a fine balance between it. It's like, Okay, I'm

704
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: going to get this done and it's going to be

705
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: out ofside, out of mind. But then am I watching

706
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: for it to like leave my face or the next

707
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: time I have to do it? And it can sometimes

708
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: become a cycle that I've seen people get into writing.

709
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: There's a fine balance between the desire to upkeep but

710
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: then the desire to continuously like look a specific way,

711
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: and really it can really take.

712
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: Over and find somebody also, I will say to your

713
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: listeners who will say no to you, yes, you know,

714
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 1: because you don't want somebody who's like okay, okay, because

715
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: the problem you know, because that you know, really trust

716
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: the expertise of the person doing it. You know, sometimes

717
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: people will come in and they'll say, well, I really

718
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: don't like this line, and I'll say, okay, well I'm

719
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: not going to feel that because actually what you really

720
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: need is you need some filler up here, because your

721
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: face is falling or it's sagging, you know, And so

722
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: I will say, find somebody who you trust enough to

723
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: trust the process, right.

724
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: I agree. I had a question about hair removal because

725
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: obviously there's laser, hair removal, micma planing, all those. What

726
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: are the best ways for people to remove hair without

727
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: damaging the skin.

728
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: So I think if you're you know, if you're looking

729
00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: at temporary hair removal, right, then I think waxing, threading,

730
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: derma planing are okay again in the right hands. Right,

731
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: if you're prone to malasma, well, wax that's too hot

732
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: can create malasma, you know. And also I've seen people

733
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: come in because they have these superficial burns because the

734
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 1: wax goes on and when it comes off, like you're burned,

735
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: you know. And derma planing can remove kind of a

736
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: protective layer. So if you're going in the sun, you

737
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: can get more malasma. But they're all in the right hands.

738
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: Great temporary methods, even like bleach, like you know, the

739
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: kind of it's a cream bleach that people use for

740
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: their upper lip. Laser is more permanent hair reduction. We

741
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: don't say hair removal because if your hormones change, you

742
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: get pregnant, you get on birth control, well that can

743
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: stimulate more hair growth, right, But if you're going to

744
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: do it, there are you know, there's tons of different

745
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: types of lasers, but there's kind of two main crystals

746
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: or two main types of light we use, and the

747
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: one I use on white skin I never use on

748
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: brown skin. So with lasers, they are very safe in

749
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: the right hands. But if somebody has one machine and

750
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: they are cranking out all their hair removal with that machine,

751
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: well ask which one it is. So, like the short

752
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 1: form of it is, there's an ALEX laser that's great

753
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: for white skin, There's an NDAG laser that's the name

754
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: of a crystal that's great for brown skin. And so

755
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: like I would say, if people are listening, they come

756
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: under a lot of brand names like tissue could be

757
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: Cleanex or Puffs or Scotties, right, but you're looking for

758
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: probably an NDAG laser and make sure the person that

759
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: you go to knows how to treat brown skin and

760
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: can treat you with that basic crystal.

761
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: That's so useful to know. Yeah, yeah, that's something I

762
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 2: think many people probably wouldn't know to ask. Right looking

763
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: into getting hair removal.

764
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that people do. They'll just kind of

765
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: go in and you know, like we have, for example,

766
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: multiple machines with both, right, because we're treating many skin types,

767
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: and you know, a place that does a lot will

768
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: have both. But you just want to make sure they

769
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: know which one to choose for you.

770
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, tell me about your skincare routine because you

771
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: are so much like the epitome of the example of

772
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: what anyone want their skin to look, all right, so

773
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 2: you need to tell everyone what is the ideal skincare

774
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 2: routine in terms of layering skincare and also the products

775
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: you need, because there are too many out there and

776
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: people don't know what they're doing with them, all the

777
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: nice sidamide and.

778
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: Yes, there's all the things. There are so many products.

779
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: So yes, I will tell you what I do. And

780
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: I will start by saying, I'm not a big believer

781
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: in spending a ton of money on things like your moisturizers,

782
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: your sunscreens, your cleansers. A cleanser is on your face

783
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: for like ten seconds, so you're literally like, if you

784
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: buy like one hundred dollars cleanser, you're literally washing that

785
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: money down the dream. Right, So do.

786
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: You think the ingredients differ though at all, between the

787
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: cheaper ones and the more expensive ones.

788
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: So for active ingredients, yes, and so if you're doing

789
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 1: a moisturizer, a cleanser, a sunscreen by the drugstore variety,

790
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: if the place to put your money is into your.

791
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 2: Active ingredients, could you explain to people what active ingredients me?

792
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely so? Like for example, for me, I wash my

793
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: face with Dove soap. I've done Dove soap for like,

794
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: I know, since I was probably in my teens, and

795
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: it worked. I just never left it. But any drugstore

796
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: cleanser like a seed to fill or you know whatever,

797
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: and they make different ones right for oily scan or

798
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: for dry skin. So I wash my skin with Dove.

799
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: I put a vitamin C serrum on my face every morning.

800
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: And to answer kind of the second part of your question,

801
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: when you're layering things, you want to go from thinnest

802
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 1: to thickest. Okay, So, vitamin C cerrums tend to be thinner.

803
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: They absorb first, So I put my vitamin C cerrum

804
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: on and then I do a sunscreen on top. If

805
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: I'm doing that morning routine, I will not spend money

806
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: on my cleanser, and I won't spend money on my sunscreen,

807
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: it won't be expensive. But my vitamin C. I'm going

808
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: to get a really good quality one. So I use

809
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: the one that we have in our office, and I

810
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: rotate summer and winter depending on the thickness. But you know,

811
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to look for something that is a really

812
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: high potency vitamin C. And the process that you have

813
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: to go to go through to really stabilize and extract

814
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: vitamins it's expensive. And so you know your active ingredient,

815
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: your vitamin C, for it be for it to be

816
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 1: really potent, I mean start with over the calendar, especially

817
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: if you're in your twenties or your thirties. But when

818
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: you get to fifty, I mean you know, that's when

819
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna spil urge on your good quality vitamin C.

820
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: Right these there are a percentage that people should be like.

821
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: I like twenty. I think over the calendar, there is

822
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: a lot of fifteens that are really good. Twenty is

823
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, twenty twenty plus is what you're

824
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: getting often in you know, kind of higher end skincare.

825
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: Okay, so you get your cleanser, your vitamin C.

826
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: And my sound screen and then I take the interglow

827
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: age defense every day because I can't get all those

828
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: antioxidants in right on a daily basis. And there's some

829
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: like we talked about, like the bark and stuff. I'm

830
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: just not going to get that on a daily basis.

831
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: So I know that gives me not just the antioxidants

832
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: I need, but the building blocks to build good skin.

833
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: And then the evening I wash with dove again and

834
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: then I put on a retine and I put on

835
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: ceed to fill body cream okay on my face, and

836
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: so that's kind of my base routine. If I'm if

837
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: it's at the end of summer and I notice a

838
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: lot more freckles or I notice, you know, pigmentation changes

839
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: because obviously pigment rich skin at the end of summer,

840
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: you're going to see it. Then I will rotate in

841
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: different things. So might I put in something like niceinemide

842
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: or cojak acid or you know other lightners just to help, yes,

843
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: and I will then layer those in at night usually.

844
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: But that's you know, my base routine that you'll always

845
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: see me doing is this, and then you know, I'll

846
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: tweak it. And that is how I treat my patients too.

847
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: Like we kind of have a summer routine and we

848
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: have a winter routine sometimes and you've seen that in yourself.

849
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, cochaic acid is something that I recently bought.

850
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: I bought the cochic acid, So tell me about it

851
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: because I feel like I'm seeing it go viral lately

852
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: and I'm intrigued about what the why it's going so viral.

853
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a lightner, it's you know, part

854
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: of a lot of discolouration serums. You actually have it

855
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: in some of your products already. I think that you know,

856
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: everything has its moment on social media, right and so

857
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: in and of its self, is it amazing for your skin? No,

858
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: it's part of the process. So might I put it

859
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: into something, you know, along with Nica, Cinemai and along

860
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: with a couple of other things, Like there's a dermatologist

861
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: who's recently made a very nice discoloration serum, manebue Shah,

862
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: and he it's called Remedy. It's a discoloration serum and

863
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: he incorporates a lot of different ingredients into it, which

864
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: I like. So if you're using something like that, you

865
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: know in the winter months to lighten discoloration, that's great,

866
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 1: But I think it's it's part.

867
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: It's you know, it's it's part of the process. Yah,

868
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 2: hyaluronic acid. Do we need it in all products? Because

869
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: I feel like lots of things up.

870
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think the reason hyaluronic acid had its

871
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: moment is because it's a great moisturizer. But when we

872
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: use filler, filler is healuronic acid. So yeah, so we

873
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: it would can inject halonic acid into people's skin. So

874
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: the reason people try to put into skincare is the

875
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 1: same reason people are trying to do collagen in Skincarehaluronic

876
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: acid will absorb, it'll plump your skin, will make you

877
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 1: look good. But at the end of the day, it's

878
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: just a moisturizer.

879
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: Oh okay, fine, good. So do you need a hyaluronic

880
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: acid plus do would you use a serum plus the

881
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: moisturizer plus another moisturizer or would they kind of be

882
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 2: the same thing?

883
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: Sometimes the same thing. It depends on your skin. So

884
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: if someone's really oily, for example, or doesn't need a

885
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: lot of moisture, sometimes a heuronic acid alone is sufficient.

886
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: If someone needs kind of layers of protection or layers

887
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: of you know, prevention for dryness.

888
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll sometimes layer them oily oils. Uh huh oils

889
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: on your skin. Do we love them or do we

890
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: hate them?

891
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: Depends? Okay, okay, So I think again, this is like,

892
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: choose what's right for you. Right, So, if you're really dry, well,

893
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna love like rose hip oil or Maroula oil

894
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: because it's really moisturizing. Yes, But if you're oily, guess

895
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: what that's gonna break you out. So then maybe you're

896
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: gonna choose like squalene or jojoba. So yeah, I mean

897
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: oils are great. They're a moisturizer like hundreds of other

898
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: moisturizers we have, but again, pick the right wine.

899
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: Yes. I was using oils a lot, and then suddenly,

900
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 2: when my skin started changing, I noticed my pores were

901
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 2: getting a lot more clogs, and I was noticing breakouts

902
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 2: in certain areas and I was wondering why, and I

903
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: was like, oh, maybe it's the thick layer of oil

904
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 2: that I put on my skin, like defry myself before

905
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: I go to sleep. So I reduced that and the

906
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: spots through on my nose and stuff started going away.

907
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: So it's so true. It's just like anything else, you

908
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 2: really have to adapt as you see, Like you can't

909
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 2: do the same thing for your whole life.

910
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: You have to change as we change. I think we

911
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: have to change our skincare and it's not one size

912
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: fits all.

913
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: Are there any cool DIY like at home masks that

914
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: you ever make? Are there? Because you know that's another

915
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: trend that's so popular. It was like DIY at home masks,

916
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: Any that you really love that you think people should

917
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: be putting into their masks if they're making them at home.

918
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: So you know, masks again something that if you love them,

919
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: do them if you're doing great skincare, Like do I

920
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: do masks? No? I don't. But do I have any

921
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: issue with masks? Not at all. So when people ask

922
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: me what do I like for DIY masks, I like

923
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: turmeric and yogurt masks. I think they're great at brightening,

924
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: they're great at moisturizing. They can really soothe irritated skin.

925
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: I also like Manuka honey because it is antibacterial, it's

926
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: anti you know, it's anti inflammatory. And if you're choosing

927
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: Manuka honey, see if you can get the ump certified

928
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: Manuca right, it's just a little more authentic I'm going

929
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: to say. And so, yeah, I like those as.

930
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: Masks at home tools.

931
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: Tools, so wands, rollers, guascha, all of that. I think

932
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: that it's not really building collagen probably okay, But what

933
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: it's doing is when you do that, it's essentially like massage,

934
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: So you are improving your circulation, you are improving lymphatic drainage.

935
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: So I think it has its place depending on what

936
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: you're trying to accomplish.

937
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I redefined it helps with the lymphatic drainage. Absolutely.

938
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing.

939
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: Yes, you really notice if you're a bit puffy, if

940
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 2: you've woken up a bit puff. I find I leave

941
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: some of my rollers in the freezer and kind of

942
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 2: roll them out, and it does brighten and just give

943
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: you a bit of a tighter feeling in the morning

944
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: for sure.

945
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think if somebody wants kind of another

946
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: DIY tip, a really great tip is you freeze green

947
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: tea into little ice cubes and if you roll those

948
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: on your face, not only does that deep path, but

949
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: it's great for under ice circles if you've had a

950
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: long night, and the caffeine in it actually will decrease puffiness.

951
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm going to do that. From now

952
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: you can just freeze them into ice cubes. Yeah, maybe

953
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 2: even like little ice lolly or amazing.

954
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you could do it ice lolly.

955
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm going to try that.

956
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, the popsipar skin.

957
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to go into some questions that people

958
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: have been asking because I basically put it out there

959
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: to everyone if they had any questions for you, If

960
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: you had to pick one skincare portic that every brown

961
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: person should have, what should it be?

962
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: Sounds green?

963
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: That Okay, I get a point for that too, that's right.

964
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: How to reduce dark circles around your eyes?

965
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 1: That's hard, right. So dark circles have so many causes.

966
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: It can be genetic, it can be aging. Allergies are

967
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: a big cause, and then just lifestyle like smoking, stress,

968
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: lackless sleep. If it's allergies, we can do wonders with

969
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: things like allergy medicine because you can get rid of

970
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: the kind of that blue purple coloration for the rest

971
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: of it. I think discolouration serums are important, Vitamin c's

972
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: are important. I think people who have a lot of

973
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: dark circles really benefit from seeing dromatologists, to be honest,

974
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: because I can mix up things. They're just not available, right,

975
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, over the counter and so there. And but

976
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: if you've lost a lot of volume, maybe you need

977
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: procedures that right.

978
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I used to have them, but

979
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 2: then when I started using I don't even know what

980
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: took them away. I definitely had darker circles when I

981
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: was younger. Yeah, maybe I'm just getting more sleep now.

982
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'm just getting better quality sleep. If you

983
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: could f one skincare product or ingredient, what would it

984
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 2: be and why.

985
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: It would be? The collagen? Yeah, I just feel like that.

986
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 2: Stop taking people's money.

987
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: Stop taking people's money.

988
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: Exactly What does clean skincare actually mean? Like when you

989
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: see clean skincare, what are they actually trying to tell us?

990
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so that is kind of a marketing term. There's

991
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: no real definition. So I'm gonna tell you, like when

992
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: you go if I took you to I don't know

993
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: CBS or something, right. Clean can mean I am vegan,

994
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: or it could mean I just am made of sustainable ingredients,

995
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: or it can mean I don't have chemicals, or can

996
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: mean none of it it's whatever definition the maker wants

997
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: to give it.

998
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: No, so is there no regulation?

999
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: Is zero regulation for clean? So do not pick up

1000
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: a product because it's clean, because somebody might be taking

1001
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: your money. Not always right. Some people are really trying

1002
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: to tell you, hey, we've worked hard, we have sustainable,

1003
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: eco friendly packaging, we are free of chemicals, are vegan,

1004
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: cruelty free. But there's no definition. There's a lot of

1005
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: stuff out there that is none of that, and they're

1006
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: labeling it as clean.

1007
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: Oh I did not know that there's no regulations.

1008
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: For that, and so I will say focus on ingredient transparency, right,

1009
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: take a look at the ingredients and see what's in it,

1010
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: and you know, and it is about being in a

1011
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: formed consumer because this is one thing I learned is

1012
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: you know, I'm using certain things because I was trained

1013
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: in this. But when I see my patients, I see

1014
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: that you know a lot of people are really being

1015
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: preyed on.

1016
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, and it is. It's frustrated every industry, yeah,

1017
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: but especially I feel the skincare industry and especially women.

1018
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: Especially women and especially young women, like you know, women

1019
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: who are in their twenties are being made to feel

1020
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: like boy, if you don't start a B and C now,

1021
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: like there's just no hope for you now, you know.

1022
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 2: All right, so clean is not clean? Guys, that was

1023
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 2: a shock for me. I asked you this already is expensive.

1024
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: Skincare really better than drugstore ones for active ingredients. Yeah, arians,

1025
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: what's worse for your skin? Fast food or alcohol?

1026
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: Okay? So okay, they're both bad, right, I will say

1027
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: fast food is much worse in the short term, So

1028
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: it's going to dehydrate your skin. You're gonna be puffier.

1029
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: It can lead to inflammation like all those hyhgallycemic index foods. Right,

1030
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: you can get food before and you wake up you

1031
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: know it. The next day your skin will be telling you.

1032
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: It'll tell you. Yeah. But in the long run, alcohol

1033
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: is much worse. So alcohol will break down your collagen, oh,

1034
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: much like sugar. So what will happen is over the

1035
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: years if you're you know, drinking, we not only know

1036
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: that speeds up your aging, but also there's some really

1037
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: good evidence now it causes a lot of cancer. So yeah,

1038
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say if you were gonna only

1039
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: try I mean moderation and everything, but alcohol's worse.

1040
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 2: If I was spending thirty days to clear my skin

1041
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 2: and get glowy skin. What should we eat all the

1042
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: things that we've already spoken about, Yes, and I.

1043
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: Will all so say. You know, people come in all

1044
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: the time like I'm getting married in thirty days. I've

1045
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: got problem and thirty days whatever, Like what do I do?

1046
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh God, can you give me forty five?

1047
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: You know? Okay?

1048
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: So I will say our entire skin replaces itself about

1049
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: every forty five days. The older you get, like maybe

1050
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: you're placing it forty five, Maybe I'm replacing closer to

1051
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: seventy because the older you get, the slower your skin

1052
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 1: renews itself. But if you have about forty five days

1053
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: and you do everything we've talked about you, one thing

1054
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about actually is you do strength training,

1055
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: because strength training is really good at building colligen But

1056
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: you do all the antioxidants, you take the supplements, and

1057
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: then maybe we're renewing your skin from the top with

1058
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: certain products. You will absolutely see a difference.

1059
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: Thirty days, no sugar, No sugar, so blueberries, lots of

1060
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 2: green tea, yes, exercise, sleep, exercise, sleep, yeah, sunscreen.

1061
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: I mean the stuff that's good for you on the inside.

1062
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: Guess what, it's also good for you on the outside, right,

1063
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: So the skin is really true the window to the inside.

1064
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: And so whatever we're doing on the inside, I think

1065
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: it often shows first in our skin always.

1066
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 2: And so I've had one full day of hydrating myself

1067
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 2: really well, ye and if I have one day, even

1068
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 2: half a day, where I haven't drunk enough water, I

1069
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 2: will see it on my skin straight away. Your skin

1070
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: tells you so fast where the things I'm working or

1071
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: not working. What's the best anti aging trick that isn't

1072
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 2: botox retine retine? Yes, okay, truth or myth? Using banana

1073
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 2: appeal on your face brightens and lightens dark spots.

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00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: Okay, truth ish okay, okay it So there's some antioxid internet,

1075
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: there's potassium. There are certain things that may brighten your skin,

1076
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be really slow. So it could you

1077
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: get much faster improvement with like a vitamin C serrum.

1078
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, flax seed masks m m.

1079
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: Truth. Yeah, they work. They've got legnans in them, They moisturize,

1080
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: they soothe irritated skin with the omega three.

1081
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: Yeakay, we like them. You already said it's a raw

1082
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:09,479
Speaker 2: manuca honey mask.

1083
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 1: Yes.

1084
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: Yes, drinking chlorophyl water can clear up acne. Eh No,

1085
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: not really, Okay, tell me why chloroful water is a thing.

1086
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 1: I think that it has some benefits for gut help, yes,

1087
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 1: and so and so people feel like if you clear

1088
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: the gut, you know, the gut skin connection is real, right,

1089
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: and so I think that that's where that comes from.

1090
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: But I've seen a lot of people try it and

1091
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: if they really have a lot of acne, we need

1092
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: to do other things.

1093
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 2: Yes, sea moss also good. Yes, Yeah, I like sea

1094
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: mass me too. I've been taking actually just like a

1095
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: tablespoon in the morning. Yeah, And I think it's a

1096
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 2: mixture between gut, vitamins, minerals, like it's such a nutrient dense.

1097
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 1: What do you think of the taste?

1098
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 2: I mean it's horrible.

1099
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I have one.

1100
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 2: I have one which has like berries and blueberries put

1101
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: into it. Okay, and you just take a tablespoon of

1102
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: it and I just got afterwards. But it is so

1103
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 2: rich invistimins, minerals, amigas. It's just like it's got a

1104
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: lot going on. You can shrink your pores with certain

1105
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: skin care products.

1106
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: So poor size is genetic, So technically no, but if

1107
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: I can give you certain things like AHA's retine, I

1108
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: will clean out your pores and I will tone them

1109
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: so they look tighter.

1110
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're born with your poor size guys, Yeah,

1111
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 2: sorry to say.

1112
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: But but you can improve it. You can improve the

1113
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: look of it.

1114
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: Right, good to know natural skin care products always better

1115
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 2: for your skin than synthetic ones.

1116
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Okay, that is also kind of

1117
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: like clean skincare. Right, So again focus on ingredient transparency.

1118
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: And I'm a little bit wary of natural because sometimes

1119
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: natural means not tested, oh or not scientifically proven. Like

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00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: I'll give you an example from my own life. When

1121
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: my kids were young, we used to use a lot

1122
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: of lavender on the girls for example. Everyone's like, it's

1123
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, you give it to you put on them

1124
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: and their bath, you put on them and their creams.

1125
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: It's really good for sleep. We use a ton of lavender,

1126
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 1: and now we know that lavender in a baby boy,

1127
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: for example, increases breast size. So sometimes natural things, if

1128
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: they haven't been tested, they can do harm. Right, because

1129
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: all of nature does provide medicine, and if you don't

1130
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 1: know how you're using it tread with caution.

1131
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 2: It's exactly the same as using medical grade things.

1132
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: Yes, you have to.

1133
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to learn how to use it.

1134
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: Yes.

1135
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: Okay, So this is random thought that I just had.

1136
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 2: What if someone was using like just olive oil on

1137
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 2: their skin for their whole life versus you know, obviously

1138
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: protecting themselves. But what if they were using everything that

1139
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 2: nature provided, like olive oils, avocados, like that kind of

1140
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: thing on their skin versus using products.

1141
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: So I think that some of that will depend on

1142
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: is there a problem to treat? Right, Like, if you

1143
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: have acne, that's not going to work for you, right,

1144
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: If you are really dry and you need the hydra,

1145
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: that might be a great routine, right. And sometimes the

1146
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: benefit of a scientific ingredient is it's kind of like

1147
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: the banana peel versus vitamin C. Right, how fast are

1148
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: you really going to get improvement? And what improvement are

1149
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: you looking for?

1150
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 2: Great answer? Facial exercises can prevent sagging and wrinkles.

1151
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: Okay that's kind of a myth, guys, is it? Yes?

1152
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: Because imagine what causes a wrinkle the movement. So if

1153
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: you're like I'm going to work out my you know,

1154
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: my elevens. Well, they're going to be deep by the

1155
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: time you're done.

1156
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 2: Okay, guys, to just sit there with a zo expect

1157
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: if you want to prevent you're just gonna just sit

1158
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 2: there and do not laugh, do not cry, no, like,

1159
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: just sit in darkness.

1160
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 1: Well, but what like we were saying yesterday, isn't it

1161
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: beautiful to see like, you know, the laughlines and the

1162
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: crow speed like it is. I mean, you you see

1163
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: people have lived a great life.

1164
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 2: So no, but that's so funny. Yeah, you see all

1165
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 2: these people doing these wild exercises online.

1166
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: So they're trying to to their muscle, and that might help.

1167
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: But we don't really need like to build muscle on

1168
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: our right right. We need to protect our skin from

1169
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: a gut.

1170
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 2: We don't need bicep cheeks. What can someone with csoriasis

1171
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: do to heal their skin and guts? Is it a

1172
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 2: skin thing or more.

1173
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: Of a gut thing?

1174
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: It's both, It's both.

1175
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: Ciriasis is very much a full body thing. Diet wise,

1176
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: I always say that there's you know, there's certain things

1177
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: you can do. High vitamin D okay makes a big difference.

1178
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: Cutting out alcohol makes a difference. Omegas and probiotics make

1179
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: a difference. But I will also say in germatology, probably

1180
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: the fastest growing field issoriasis treatment. So if somebody hassoriasis,

1181
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: come in and see somebody, because there's so much we

1182
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: can do. There's so much we can do now how

1183
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: to get rid of blackheads? So do I mind extractions?

1184
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't, you know, done carefully? If you don't, if

1185
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:54,760
Speaker 1: you're you know, like we were saying, if you squeeze,

1186
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: you might get a dark spot. But things like AHA's

1187
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: and retine actually help a lot.

1188
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 2: Great. Does icing the face actually reduce swelling?

1189
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: It can?

1190
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, great help for roseatia? What is roseesia? Where

1191
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 2: does it come from?

1192
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 1: Roseaesia is often genetic, but also comes from the sun.

1193
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: So roseesiha, unlike molasma, roseaesia is what more fair people get.

1194
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: And that's because their skin is so fair that their

1195
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: blood vessels below are getting sun dam so you'll see

1196
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: the blood vessels will open up. These are people who

1197
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: are flushers and blushers, and the blood vessels can actually

1198
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: come to the top of the skin surface and you

1199
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: can see them as lying sometimes. And so with roseaesia,

1200
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: alcohol is a big no no. And then there's certain

1201
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: things that will flare different people. So sometimes spicy food

1202
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: is bad for certain people, sometimes hot foods. But again

1203
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: it's a sun induced condition, often other than genetics. So

1204
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: protect your blood vessels the same way you protect your

1205
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: pigment cells.

1206
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: Great answer. Why do my post some days look large,

1207
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: super and large and some days I can't see them.

1208
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: I need? That's probably lifestyle, okay, lifestyle and maybe different mirrors. Yeah,

1209
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: different mirrors. Yeah, do you have your magnifier out?

1210
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: Oh do you really need spa fifty or is thirty enough?

1211
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: Thirty is enough? So actually we're trying to get you

1212
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: know ingredient labeling to just say thirty plus right, okay,

1213
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: because people will be like, oh my god, doc, I

1214
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: use like one hundred and fifty SPA and the difference.

1215
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: Is like this, you know, so thirty plus Another slight scam. Yeah, darkknees.

1216
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 2: Someone wants to know how to get rid of their darkknees.

1217
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: Darkknees. So usually that's from like you know, rubbing or

1218
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: kneeling a lot, and sometimes there's just pigments. So actually

1219
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like these acids great ones are

1220
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: things that are called acids for rough and bumpy skin

1221
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: like gold Bond has one, Citifil has one, a lot

1222
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: of these drugstore varieties and if you rub that onto

1223
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: your elbows or your knees, you'll notice it a little slightly,

1224
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, light in the color.

1225
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 2: Well, there you have it. People, most of your answer

1226
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 2: questions answered. And I feel like we've got so much

1227
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 2: from this, like the detail that everyone really needs, because

1228
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 2: I find with you know one, you're so expert in

1229
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: this and you have intricate answers for everything, and I

1230
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: think that's what people really want. Like it's hard, like

1231
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: you said, it's hard to say general advice for everyone,

1232
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: whereas when you get into the intricacies you really get

1233
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: to understand your body so much better.

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00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: Thank you, You're so welcome, Thank you so much. Fun.

1235
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: Thank this is so fun.

1236
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: And if you guys have any questions, you can find

1237
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: doctor Noreen on Instagram. And do you have a website

1238
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: for your clinic. We do.

1239
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: It's Galeria MD dot com.

1240
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: Yes. And then inter is just and the Inner glob vitamins.

1241
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 2: I highly recommend you have them in capsules now as well,

1242
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 2: don't you.

1243
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're coming in capsules, Yeah, coming in.

1244
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 2: Capsules, But they are wonderful. They have such great ingredients

1245
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: and you know it's just great defense internally and externally,

1246
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 2: hitting them from both sides. Thank you so much, so

1247
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 2: excited for askincare journey to continue. And yeah, hit us

1248
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: up with any questions if you have any left