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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Raves Press Pass podcast. The Ravens fell

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Speaker 1: to the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday, losing eighteen to sixteen

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Speaker 1: to drop them to seven and four on the season.

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Speaker 1: On Monday, we had a chance to hear from head

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Speaker 1: coach John Harbaugh during his standard weekly press.

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Speaker 2: No updates right now. We're just monitoring it as we

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Speaker 2: go here and he'll be working to get ready for

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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 3: After looking at.

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Speaker 4: The film from the three point version out there, seemed

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Speaker 4: like the Steelers were saying afterwards that they the players.

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Speaker 2: Going in the direction, Well, it didn't work. You know,

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Speaker 2: I think anytime you got to play it didn't work,

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Speaker 2: you kind of look at it very critically. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we're we're disappointing that play. You want to have a

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Speaker 2: better play up there, better play call, the better executed play,

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Speaker 2: everything along those lines. So I think you know, in

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Speaker 2: every game whether you win or lose, but especially when

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Speaker 2: you lose, and especially when it's an opportunity to tie

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Speaker 2: the game at the end after a hard fought game

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Speaker 2: like that, you got to look at those plays really hard.

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Speaker 2: And that's when we'd like to have back just across board.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not per se along those lines. Not having Derek

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Speaker 3: on the field for that play.

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Speaker 2: To do things, I guess, yeah, I don't know, really,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure about the question. I just think there's play.

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Speaker 2: There are plays where guys are on the field. The

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Speaker 2: guys are on the field for specific types of plays,

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Speaker 2: you know, and depends on the type of play, whether

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Speaker 2: Mark's out there or Isaiah's out there, Orse's out there,

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Speaker 2: or baits out there or whoever. Dereck Henry is a

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Speaker 2: great football player and you want him out there situationally,

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Speaker 2: but he's not out there for every play. So, like

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Speaker 2: I said after the game, that's the play that was called.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's the personnel group that it was set

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Speaker 2: up in through a lot of a lot of game planning.

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Speaker 2: I mean, coaches are they're in early, they're home late,

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Speaker 2: and they try to put the best We all try

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Speaker 2: to put the best play we can together and come

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Speaker 2: up with the best plays, and when it doesn't work out,

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Speaker 2: you know, it hurts, it's bad and you really feel

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Speaker 2: you feel disappointed about it because it's it's it's your job,

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Speaker 2: it's what you want to get done well. So all

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Speaker 2: the little nuances within that are all things that disappoint you,

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Speaker 2: but every player is not on the field for every play.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to have had a better play there, you know,

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Speaker 2: and I like to have had a successful play. So

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Speaker 2: you look back on it and that's how you feel

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Speaker 2: about it. You feel bad.

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Speaker 3: About its successful in it.

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Speaker 5: Was there any thoughts of maybe seeing a key and

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Speaker 5: that he wasn't very involved offensively?

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Speaker 2: Yes, he was.

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Speaker 5: There a thought just to see what a different look

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Speaker 5: with him and there I know he's run such a

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Speaker 2: Well, the way the way you're asking it is it

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Speaker 2: just to be like experimental. No, there's no thought to

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Speaker 2: experiment in that game right there. Keaton's a guy we

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Speaker 2: want to get involved, for sure. He's only been back

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Speaker 2: for two weeks, you know, coming back from a knee injury. Uh,

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Speaker 2: the way the game went, we only got Derek twelve

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Speaker 2: carries as it was, thirteen carries as it was, so

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Speaker 2: you want to get him more. You know. We only

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Speaker 2: had like fifty two or fifty three offensive plays. We

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Speaker 2: didn't have as many throws or runs or anything else

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Speaker 2: that we wanted. So now to try to get a

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Speaker 2: specific player in the game, you could say the same

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Speaker 2: thing about any other player. You want to get a

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Speaker 2: more rep more reps, more opportunities, you probably need more plays,

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Speaker 2: and to get more plays, you need more successful plays,

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Speaker 2: more first downs, more yards. We were off the field

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Speaker 2: a couple of times real quick two I think two

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Speaker 2: of our series were off the field in two or

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Speaker 2: three plays. So it just cuts down the opportunities for everybody.

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Speaker 1: John made a.

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Speaker 6: Change in safety with Ardarius Washington in places. Mor what

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Speaker 6: do you mean have you seen Kamar Darius up until

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Speaker 6: this point for him to earn this opportunity, and then

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Speaker 6: how do you think he played or he played every

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Speaker 6: snap because the only guy.

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Speaker 7: Who did that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a plan going in. Those two guys

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Speaker 2: we tried, we had you know, we were trying to

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Speaker 2: attack some issues that we had in the back end,

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Speaker 2: as everybody knows. And I thought I thought they played

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Speaker 2: Darius had earned that opportunity, earned that chance by by

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Speaker 2: by the way he practiced, and then also by the

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Speaker 2: way he played when he was in there during the

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Speaker 2: during the course of the season. We put Kyle back

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Speaker 2: there as well. I thought he played very well back there.

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Speaker 2: He did a great job communicating. But they both did

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Speaker 2: and they played well so that would definitely be a

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Speaker 2: formula going forward. And then you know, still the guys

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Speaker 2: working to do whatever they can to help us win.

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Speaker 6: It seems almost an inconceivable question over the last decade.

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Speaker 3: But he's already thought to.

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Speaker 7: Bring a competition for Justin Tucker as a tryout candidates.

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Speaker 2: Or anything at this point. No, no, there's no thought

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Speaker 2: to that. I mean, you have to find that competition first.

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Speaker 2: Just if you're going to be blunt about it, you know,

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Speaker 2: where is that competition? That would be one thing. And

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Speaker 2: the best option right now is to get Justin you know,

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Speaker 2: back on point where where he's because he's fully capable

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Speaker 2: of doing it. Certainly haven't lost any confidence in Justin Tucker.

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Speaker 2: You know, you saw that on the fifty four yarder

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Speaker 2: and we sent him out for and he drilled it.

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Speaker 2: So that's the Justin Tuk that he wants to see,

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Speaker 2: that we all want to see on every kick. And uh,

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Speaker 2: he's definitely our best option and he's going to make

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Speaker 2: a lot of kicks. I really believe that going forward.

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Speaker 2: But it's up to him, you know, it's up to

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Speaker 2: him and the guys he works with every day to

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Speaker 2: make those balls go straight. So that's not competition right

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Speaker 2: now at this time. Now, that's not something we want

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Speaker 2: to for Justin. We just got to compete to get

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Speaker 5: Are you seeing it as is it on the kicking side?

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Speaker 8: That is there?

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Speaker 5: Is there anything going on in part of the other

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Speaker 5: mechanics that go into it, whether it's the hold or anything.

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Speaker 2: Else, not specifically, it's just a it's just a matter

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Speaker 2: of that. It's their team, they work together. I think

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Speaker 2: when things go well, Justin credits those guys really well,

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Speaker 2: and I think they all take responsibility, you know, for

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Speaker 2: every good thing or for and for everything it doesn't

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Speaker 2: go well.

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Speaker 7: Is there any way to look at the number of

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Speaker 7: kind of hees the offensive mine, especially in this last game,

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Speaker 7: which is throughout the year, you know, holds the goal field. Obviously,

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Speaker 7: one of the strengths of this office is the marketability

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Speaker 7: to improvise the hole of them all with give us

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Speaker 7: these time, but with some of those plays kicking the

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Speaker 7: ball off faster, we help addressing of those.

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Speaker 9: Kind of ties.

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Speaker 2: Well. The holding penalties run runs, and those are penalties

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Speaker 2: that hurt us. I mean it's just to start with

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Speaker 2: what type of penalties we're talking about. First of all,

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Speaker 2: too many penalties, way too many penalties. The penalties on

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Speaker 2: offense are the one thing that is holding us back.

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Speaker 2: That's the biggest issue. It shows up in different ways.

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Speaker 2: So holding penalties on run plays, Yeah, color separation, it's happening,

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Speaker 2: and we're grabbing those guys and it's getting called. It's

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Speaker 2: putting us to you know, it's putting us to first

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Speaker 2: we're probably the best get back on track offense in

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Speaker 2: the league right now overcoming those things. But we shouldn't

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Speaker 2: have to overcome them. When you play defense like we played,

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Speaker 2: in sometimes it becomes too high amount in the scale.

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Speaker 2: And that's why we didn't score as many points. That's

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Speaker 2: really the number one reason, because we were behind the

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Speaker 2: sticks too much because of the penalties. So holding penalties

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Speaker 2: run game, no holding penalties in the past game. We've

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Speaker 2: been pretty good in pass protection. We haven't had too

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Speaker 2: many holding penalties in pass protection. I give our line

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Speaker 2: a lot of credit for that, especially the way Lamar

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Speaker 2: blocking for Lamar that way. The linemen downfield penalties in

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Speaker 2: this game, there was one that happened on a run

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Speaker 2: play that got taken out kind of like we took

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Speaker 2: it outside to the right. I think we could have

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Speaker 2: a little better. The other the other ones were screens,

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Speaker 2: you know, where the screens get held up and the

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Speaker 2: timing gets messed up. So that's tough. But we still

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Speaker 2: got to try to find a way to be intentional

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Speaker 2: about that and not get downfield. But I will say,

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Speaker 2: on the screens, when they cover the screen and it

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Speaker 2: gets delayed, that's a tougher deal. Other types of penalties

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Speaker 2: help me out, that's yeah, I'm trying to be like

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Speaker 2: really specific about us. You get, oh, the special yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean the special teams penalties aren't acceptable. I mean

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Speaker 2: and those those are both unnecessary penalties, and they're both

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Speaker 2: technique penalties, you know. Uh one of them was a

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Speaker 2: get beat across your face grab the guy, okay. Not okay,

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Speaker 2: We work hard on that. The other one was the

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Speaker 2: punt return downfield. You don't you don't put your hands

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Speaker 2: inevitably it becomes the back, you know, on the punt return.

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Speaker 2: Coach that all the time. Not okay, there's techniques involved

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Speaker 2: with that. Special teams is all about fundamentals and techniques,

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Speaker 2: you know, and understanding the spacing and the geometry of

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Speaker 2: those plays, and that's we've got to be better at that.

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Speaker 4: Penalties and see that as like discipline and like of

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Speaker 4: discipline gets put on the shoulders of coaching. What can

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Speaker 4: be done to eliminate these issues moving forward down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, it's across the board. It's everything. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the buck stops here, Harry Truman right stops with me.

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Speaker 2: So it's my job to make sure that we're doing

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Speaker 2: the things that we got to do. And we've from

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Speaker 2: a coaching standpoint, from drill standpoint, from emphasis standpoint, technique standpoint,

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Speaker 2: and making sure you guys understand that you know, it's

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Speaker 2: not okay, it's not acceptable. We've all got to be

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Speaker 2: intentional about getting it stopped, and my job to make

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Speaker 2: sure that everybody's focused.

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Speaker 4: On Justin for a second.

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Speaker 10: Is there any way to change up the problem solving

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Speaker 10: the process for him having to talk to somebody else,

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Speaker 10: different voice in there, or do you just sort of

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Speaker 10: have to trust the process that has worked so well

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Speaker 10: for so many.

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Speaker 2: Years, try to attack everything to the utmost that we

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Speaker 2: can across the board. And you know, Justin is one

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Speaker 2: of the aspects that we're looking at. I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: going to get it figured out. We have coaches, we

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Speaker 2: have technique, we look at the tape he's practicing, well,

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Speaker 2: he's got to kick it straight.

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Speaker 8: Don't be more than Eddie Jackson staying home.

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Speaker 2: And also another question that safety is Sneeze Kinge's updated.

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Speaker 2: Really no injury updates right now. There's MRIs today and

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Speaker 2: What can we do to try to win this next

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought Trey had a real good game. It's

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Speaker 2: a few things he learned, like we you know, all

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Speaker 10: When you when you went back and looked at it,

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Speaker 2: They played really good Childs. I mean they're aggressive, they're physical,

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Speaker 5: Thing, John, Obviously, a game like that is a little

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Speaker 5: small as details matter. Was how frustrating was it just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's disappointing. Those the things that you want to do.

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Speaker 9: Lamars said, the approachate the skates like you thought maybe

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Speaker 7: To heights And you don't want to.

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Speaker 9: Say that that applies to everyone and it's our opinion,

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Speaker 8: Personal question. But David Ajava was a healthy scratch at

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Speaker 8: the third time this season yet at easta Isaac playing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I have those conversations with the guys personally

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Speaker 10: A lot of defensive players said communication is still the

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Speaker 2: That guy can repeat that, Can you repeat that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? A lot of defensive players said communication is still

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Speaker 2: How do you have communication issues?

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Speaker 5: And why do you think did start to clip for that?

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Speaker 2: I thought we came out and played good in this game,

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Speaker 2: We'll look at all those things just like we did

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Speaker 2: Next just cause you played a little better this week

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Speaker 2: And hopefully you can make those stops and make those plays.

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Speaker 2: I'm proud of the guys. I thought the effort, the intensity,

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Speaker 2: just keep trying to improve and get better and try

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Speaker 9: John isn't a recent injury.

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Speaker 2: But are we've met about Michael Peers.

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Speaker 9: Is he getting closer to being an optioners?

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Speaker 2: That's still well, he was an IR so when he

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Speaker 3: Similar not a recent injury from this game. Arthur Malatt

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Speaker 3: at the calf last week that something it could be

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Speaker 3: longer term potential injury reserve.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll anticipate that one being an injury injured reserve

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Speaker 2: at this point, so just have to see how it heals.

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