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Speaker 1: Get Up?

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Speaker 2: What Is Up? Mets fans, Welcome back to episode number

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Speaker 2: one oh four of the Mets Up Podcast, the official

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Speaker 2: podcast of the New York Mets. Just wrapped up a

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Speaker 2: three game series out in beautiful sunny Miami where the

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Speaker 2: Mets win the series a little bit of a I

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Speaker 2: don't want to say stinker at the end, but bittersweet,

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Speaker 2: bitter sweet, bittersweet because the Mets win the series, but

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Speaker 2: the end of the series left a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a bitter taste in our mouth. So we're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: about everything that happened out in Miami as well as

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Speaker 2: all the storylines going on in the Mets world in

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Speaker 2: today's episode of the Mets Up Podcast. So if you guys

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Speaker 2: does help us out. Without further ado on a fairly

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Speaker 2: quick intro, James, how you doing man? Welcome back good Man.

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Speaker 2: Happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Hello, long weekend, lot of traveling today, very excited to

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Speaker 1: be recording.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you came from Westfield all the way to Brooklyn

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Speaker 2: yep in an ouber.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then hopped on my bike and rolled up

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Speaker 1: to a story for the show. But shout out my

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Speaker 1: little sister Julia graduation part of yesterday a hell of

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Speaker 1: a time by everybody except her had a little too

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Speaker 1: much to drink. Also shout out her friends from Michigan

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Speaker 1: who are big, big, big fans of the Messed Up podcast.

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Speaker 2: Jill birthday on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Shout you out, Jill, and shout out Tasha if anyone

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Speaker 1: follows me on Instagram. Tasha is an incredible artist. And

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Speaker 1: we're redoing my parents are redoing their kitchen. So once

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Speaker 1: everyone had a few drinks, they were like, let's grew

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom took out the pack of sharpies.

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Speaker 1: Everyone was drawing things like a little message to my sister,

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Speaker 1: a friend. So I'm like, how can we make my

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Speaker 1: dad as least mad as possible? And I was like,

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Speaker 1: Tasha draw a picture of the ball going through Billy

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Speaker 1: Buckaner's legs on on my cabinet and with a black

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Speaker 1: sharp but she drew like to a t perfectly incredible

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Speaker 1: yet out my Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you gotta pust that on the on the Mets

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Speaker 2: up instead to throw a picture up there. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, relatively good weekend for everybody. Everyone's happy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fun weekend, good times Mets also like good, but

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Speaker 1: like less good than it could have been good.

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Speaker 2: It could have been sick. It could have been an

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Speaker 2: amazing weekend if we ended up getting that sweet. But

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Speaker 2: of course we have to start off with Game one,

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Speaker 2: which was probably the game that everybody us included had

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Speaker 2: circled as the one that if you are gonna lose

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Speaker 2: games to the Marlins, it would be this one, because yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're going up against possible Cy Young Award winner this year,

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Speaker 2: Sandy Alkintara.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is the one we went into the

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Speaker 1: last We ended the last episode with saying like, I

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Speaker 2: You kind of think that this could be that first

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Speaker 1: The Mets lose their third straight game, which is ridiculous

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Speaker 2: With July on the calendar next week. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: mean like they're they're just a good team. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: losing three games a row, I mean, the Dodgers lost

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Speaker 2: happens in a baseball season, not yet to the Mets, not.

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Speaker 1: Yet to the Mets. But again, this was the one.

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Speaker 1: If it was gonna happen, it was gonna be this.

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Speaker 1: But the tone was kind of set right away in

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Speaker 1: Sandy got Nemo and Martelle out on five pitches. That's

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Speaker 1: the other crazy thing about facing Sandy, Like even though

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Speaker 1: Martain Nemo got out five pitches first two out of

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Speaker 2: Off a ninety nine mile an hour sinker, which is

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Speaker 2: John the producer for getting us that awesome stat. This

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Speaker 2: other thing that I thought was interesting too, was that

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Speaker 2: Loan Depot, lone Depot Field, whatever it's called. Everyone thinks

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Speaker 2: Everyone thinks of it as a pitcher's park, my bad.

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Speaker 2: Not a hitter's park. Definitely a pitcher's park. But that

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Speaker 2: every other stadium it would not have gone out. So

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Speaker 2: that's a weird home run, but hey, we take it

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Speaker 2: there in the first inning, jumping on Sandy Alcantara and

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Speaker 2: Lindor swinging the bat.

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Speaker 1: Well again, Yes, he also missed first base, which is

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Speaker 1: a pretty funny moment. He had to like jog back

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Speaker 2: That was that was a good moment. Yeah, thank goodness

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Speaker 2: he did go back into That would have been Oh

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Speaker 2: my god. The last thing we needed is Francisco Lindor

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Speaker 2: to miss first base on a home run when the

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Speaker 2: Mets are like losing two games in a row before that.

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Speaker 2: In terms of this game, like in that situation, Sandy

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Speaker 2: on the mound and just the Lindork's having more ammo. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: home run out to an early lead, but then the

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Speaker 2: Marlins just kind of scratched right back. Moms you said

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Speaker 2: last week, king of the bloops. They are so annoying.

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Speaker 2: I tweeted out last week that I'm tired of playing

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Speaker 2: them already, and those were our first three games. I'm

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Speaker 2: continue I still am tired of playing this Marlins team.

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Speaker 2: They don't particularly play good baseball. But they are so

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Speaker 2: in whether it's John Birdie or Garrett Ada base ball.

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Speaker 2: They played, they have a decent they've like, No, they

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Speaker 2: have good players, Yeah, but they're baseball quat like they

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Speaker 2: have almost no fundamentals. I would be an old man

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Speaker 1: That's a hard that's a hard line to draw. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how you can quantify that. But these games, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Grey Cooper also kind of doesn't have our number.

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Speaker 2: He's a good hitter.

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Speaker 1: He's someone who's gonna probably be on the move the

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Speaker 1: trade deadline. Somebody could be fundation any team who needs offense.

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Speaker 1: He got a Blue Barbie a single, but then Mets

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Speaker 1: came right back. Marky Cheerio is our boy. Mark Hannah

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Speaker 1: solo home run again off of Sandy, but the Mets

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it was really excited to see Markanna hit

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Speaker 2: that home run. Didn't play him Fantasy this week, so

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Speaker 2: that's on me. It was a bad week. I didn't

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Speaker 2: play Christian Javier either, obviously, he basically threw a no hitter.

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Speaker 2: But Mark Canna, Marky Cheerios, he's there for you. He's reliable.

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Speaker 2: There is a reason we gave him that nickname the

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Speaker 2: dude just comes up clutch yet again for this team. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but again right back.

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Speaker 1: The following half inning, bottom of the fifth, the Momins

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Speaker 1: crashing another one back against Taiwan Walker John Birdie hit

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Speaker 1: a single and then jas Chizohm hit a single to

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Speaker 1: Burley, being a little speed demon gremlin that he is,

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Speaker 1: Marte probably half of being like I want to get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, wound.

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Speaker 1: Up for a big time throw at while the Wescobar

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Speaker 2: The bag still tried for a tag even though Burty

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Speaker 1: Allowed Jazz Chisholm to reach second base on that play,

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Speaker 1: which at the time made me incredibly nervous.

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Speaker 2: And also ended up being a kind of extremely important

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Speaker 2: out he like tweaked his back a little bit of spasms. Spasms, Okay,

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Speaker 2: he had some spasms his back and he ends up

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Speaker 2: leaving the game in the next inning, which we'll get

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Speaker 2: to here in a second. Obviously, they did end up

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Speaker 2: scoring a run here. Horay Solaiir hit an RBI ground ball, right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it did turn out to just be good

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Speaker 1: work by Taiwan Walker to get out of that inning

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, And Taiwan got out of it, and Taiwan

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Speaker 2: was great again, which I know you're gonna dive deep into. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll do a Taiwan.

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Speaker 1: But we have talked about the top of the sixth

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Speaker 1: inning because Mets fans, this was one of the craziest

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Speaker 1: Mets innings, not only this year, but that we've seen

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Speaker 1: in recent Mets memory of the team with a lot

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Speaker 2: It was absolutely insane. The fact that I've weirdly had

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Speaker 2: this situation happen with Buck Showalter before where I've been

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Speaker 2: was managing the Orioles and I was talking to my

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Speaker 2: dad and I was like, what if a runner slides

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Speaker 2: in the middle of the baseline on a double play.

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Speaker 2: That's it. You're sliding towards second base. You can't really

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Speaker 2: tell the guy whin or when he isn't doing that.

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly what happened in this inning. And did

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Speaker 1: Yesterday they were actually talking either with Buck or with

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Speaker 2: I don't remember who. This is a Buck Showalter thing

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Speaker 2: what I was saying.

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Speaker 1: In the spring training they teach this play because it's

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Speaker 1: kind of the only option you can do almost even

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Speaker 1: confuse an infielder and try and get your guy running

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Speaker 1: down the line to first an extra half a second

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Speaker 1: to be it out, not even considering the other hoopla

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Speaker 1: that would happen around with actually happened, but talk about

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Speaker 1: his inning pecifically, Mark mentioned Jazz.

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Speaker 2: Out of game, Williams asked Udio, everybody's.

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Speaker 1: Favorite short, pudgy backup catcher utility man actually comes in

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Speaker 1: You know, somebody's just think about Paula Duke in your mind.

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Speaker 2: I got an autograph of Paula DUKEA really I did

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Speaker 2: it was Jacob stalling to a single yeah, and then

437
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Speaker 2: you yank him, which was the right move. I said,

438
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Speaker 2: that was the right move by Buck. That was kind

439
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Speaker 2: of what we all agreed. What we said and the

440
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Speaker 2: group chat. That was our census. Was that our consensus,

441
00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,760
Speaker 2: not the census, that's it. That's something you fill out.

442
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Speaker 2: That's a certain but that was our consensus was that

443
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Speaker 2: as soon as you let someone on, get him out

444
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Speaker 2: of the game. And Buck yanked him real quick. Drew

445
00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,920
Speaker 2: Changs did come in though, and kind of got us.

446
00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:44,880
Speaker 2: He scared us a little bit. He just didn't really

447
00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,520
Speaker 2: have the command. He didn't have the fastball command, he

448
00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,800
Speaker 2: didn't have the Slyther command. He was missing baths.

449
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Speaker 1: He got the two strikeouts, but he walked three batters,

450
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Speaker 1: including after he.

451
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Speaker 2: Lowered the bases, struck out two, then walked. I don't

452
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Speaker 2: remember who it was. It might have been Garret Cooper,

453
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Speaker 2: might have been Garret Cooper, Gary Coopers player. I think

454
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Speaker 2: it was Scared Coopers on my fantasy team, and I.

455
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Speaker 1: Was like, RBI walk there you go, and then got

456
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Speaker 1: the run in there, so now we're looking at five

457
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Speaker 1: three place.

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Speaker 2: I didn't really want to hang out. Adam on the

459
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Speaker 2: Vino came in and.

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Speaker 1: This is when we were still super high out of

461
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Speaker 1: the I mean still I'm not I'm not using any

462
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Speaker 1: reactionary stuff here, but Adam on the Vino, who I

463
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Speaker 1: believe for like the fourth or fifth at the time,

464
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Speaker 1: straight appearance, maybe sixth, did not allow any inherent runs

465
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Speaker 1: to score, got out of it and nice and easy

466
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Speaker 1: from there.

467
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was. It really was super easy. We

468
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Speaker 2: got to see Jimmy Yacabonis come back in later in

469
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Speaker 2: this game in a big moment up against Pete double

470
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Speaker 2: foreshadow here because we were giving a lot of credits

471
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Speaker 2: out of Vino who busted up the game on Saturday,

472
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Speaker 2: and never were giving a lot of credits to Yacabonas

473
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Speaker 2: who busted up the game on Saturday out of you know,

474
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Speaker 2: Sunday My Ben. Yeah. No, Yakobonas as a witch though

475
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Speaker 2: he's a witch. Yeah, he's a little bit of a

476
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Speaker 2: witch and shot out New Jersey. His sinker was just

477
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Speaker 2: absolutely no, that wasn't him, that was zact Pop. I'm thinking,

478
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Speaker 2: oh my goodness, they're just talking about that. They have

479
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Speaker 2: a lot of random, just no name guys that have

480
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Speaker 2: some witch like stuff. That's like the first sign of

481
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Speaker 2: an organization that's coming together.

482
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Speaker 1: Though, when you just dropping a reliever out of nowhere

483
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Speaker 1: and he's doing things that got on pitching Ninja, that

484
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Speaker 1: is the first step in becoming a good team now. Yeah,

485
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Speaker 1: and then we kind just wrap up this game here

486
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Speaker 1: with Edwin Diaz be and Edwin Diaz lights out, untouchable.

487
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Speaker 2: And Thomas Neio making one of the best players for

488
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Speaker 2: a catcher I've ever seen in my life. Such a

489
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Speaker 2: sick throw. I don't think it gets played up enough.

490
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Speaker 2: How perfect this throw was from his knees. He put

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Speaker 2: it in such a spot where Luis Giormey literally caught

492
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Speaker 2: it on the guy's head, which was exactly where it

493
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Speaker 2: needed to be because of how good of a jump

494
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Speaker 2: he got stealing the base.

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Speaker 1: Thomas new threw this ball to second base seventy three

496
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Speaker 1: miles an hour from his knees.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is pretty impressive.

498
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Speaker 1: Stag got John Birty, who was I believe twenty one

499
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Speaker 1: for his last twenty one one of the longest.

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Speaker 2: I think it was the longest freaking Marlind's history. Yeah. No,

501
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Speaker 2: John Birdie is a fast He's a fast man. We

502
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Speaker 2: could trade for him, right, I would love to get

503
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Speaker 2: John Bertie, just even to get him away from playing

504
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Speaker 2: us would be fine for him. Send him down, send

505
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Speaker 2: him down, you never play again.

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Speaker 1: Actually, because he's actually playing very well this here. He's

507
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Speaker 1: an incredible ball player. But also shatoucky Yorme on this

508
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Speaker 1: play block the bag. Yes, took a spike full speed

509
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Speaker 1: from John Birdy, who's a big fan the feed for

510
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Speaker 1: a slide love speed first, generally not a big head.

511
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Speaker 2: For a slide guy.

512
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Speaker 1: He had a finger issue or wrist issue or shoulder

513
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Speaker 1: issue from back in his day. But Luis Giermy blocking

514
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Speaker 1: the bag just ate a spike on his foot, got

515
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Speaker 1: the tag down, changed the inning.

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Speaker 2: Edmond easy, move along, Move along, and that was the

517
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Speaker 2: end of Game one. We don't lose three straight and

518
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Speaker 2: the Mets take the first game of the series. Now

519
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,040
Speaker 2: into Game two, we got Chris Bassett, who's been great

520
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Speaker 2: for us recently, just a great starting pitcher, going up

521
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Speaker 2: against Trevor Rodgers, who we saw last week had one

522
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Speaker 2: of his better starts of the year against the Mets.

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Speaker 2: So it's interesting to see what the Mets would do

524
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Speaker 2: against him. Seeing him for a second time this season,

525
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Speaker 2: and just like the Mets kind of have done all year,

526
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Speaker 2: got ahead real early.

527
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Speaker 1: Scored first, scored first with the Pee Alonzo home run,

528
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Speaker 1: which I believe was the shortest home run of his entiregreer.

529
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Speaker 2: If it's not the shortest, it's one of the shortest.

530
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Speaker 2: He just it was the cheapest home run Peter Alonzo's

531
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Speaker 2: ever hit. It snuck over the fence, which is something

532
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Speaker 2: we don't really ever get to say about Pete Alonzo.

533
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Speaker 2: But I don't care. This guy hits four hundred and

534
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Speaker 2: fifty home runs, they count as one. He can get

535
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Speaker 2: a cheap one every once in a while.

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Speaker 1: Not long after that, we had Martainne Lindor back to

537
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Speaker 1: back hits a Mark Hannah RBI ground Ball, and our

538
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Speaker 1: producer John gave us a great stat. Mark Hanna has

539
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Speaker 1: had eleven opportunities this year to drive in a runner

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Speaker 1: from third with less than two outs, and he's completed

541
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Speaker 1: that task eight times eight for eleven Marky cheerios. He's

542
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Speaker 1: there for you when you need him, like eighty three percent,

543
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Speaker 1: so much fiber, it's unbelievable. And then while the wescobar

544
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Speaker 1: maybe off the schnine for a half a second, a

545
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Speaker 1: two out RBI single one of the few times we

546
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Speaker 1: gotta clutch it like that all series.

547
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Speaker 2: And to be fair, this fills in right to what

548
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Speaker 2: I talked about last episode of Get on My Soapbox,

549
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Speaker 2: and Wardo Escobar against left handed pitching does well. He

550
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Speaker 2: can swing the bat a heck of a lot better

551
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Speaker 2: against the lefties, and he showed it nice and early

552
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Speaker 2: in this game with that two out RBI.

553
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think there was also a JD. Davis walk

554
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Speaker 1: mixed in there. He also better against lefties.

555
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Speaker 2: Better against lefties for sure, But that being said, Marlin's

556
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Speaker 2: hop right back Chris Bassett a little bit of trouble

557
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Speaker 2: with the home run ball this game, I would say

558
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Speaker 2: is here this year. I guess in general, Jesus Sanchez

559
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Speaker 2: hit a absolute bomb of a home run and he's

560
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Speaker 2: a strong young guy.

561
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of excited to watch hay Sus Sanchez

562
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Speaker 1: developed because just as a baseball fan, like you see

563
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Speaker 1: the foundation here for a real player, and.

564
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Speaker 2: He actually plays a decent center field better than I

565
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Speaker 2: thought he would because he could play it very good,

566
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Speaker 2: right yeah, because that's what he is. He's a right fielder,

567
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 2: but his centerfield, especially in that big ballpark wasn't too bad,

568
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 2: absolutely crushed it, and then Brian de la Cruz MC killer.

569
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Speaker 2: We were due. We know, Brian de la Cruz has

570
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Speaker 2: basically only ever hit well in the majors against the

571
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Speaker 2: New York Mets rats. He's probably on the rat list

572
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,959
Speaker 2: moving in. Maybe he's up there. I don't think he's

573
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Speaker 2: Joan Birdie level just yet, but my goodness, Brian de

574
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Speaker 2: la Cruz, a guy who we should never have to

575
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Speaker 2: worry about, seemingly is a thorn in our side continuously

576
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Speaker 2: to throw on our side.

577
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Speaker 1: And this also has kind of continued on a trend

578
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Speaker 1: of Chris Bassett giving up more home runs than I

579
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Speaker 1: think any of us, anyone who would pay attention to

580
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Speaker 1: bass in the past, had been accustomed to.

581
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Speaker 2: He's been mostly awesome.

582
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Speaker 1: I'm giving him a lot of the credit, but he's

583
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Speaker 1: already allowed thirteen home runs this year and that's going

584
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Speaker 1: up against fifteen heel out all of last year.

585
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Speaker 2: And to be fair, I think that could do with

586
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Speaker 2: the fact that he played in Oakland. Yeah, that's like

587
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 2: one of the hardest ballparks that hit a home We're

588
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 2: talking about City Field, the Moms Park here. Two true,

589
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Speaker 2: But I think I think Oakland just in general, though

590
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Speaker 2: I think has really really bad numbers. You also have

591
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Speaker 2: some bigger parks out there in the AOS. You also

592
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Speaker 2: have the Houston Nationals Park, which is, as we know,

593
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Speaker 2: very easy at home runs. But I think, I mean,

594
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Speaker 2: this isn't any cause of concern for us. This is

595
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Speaker 2: more of a things out. Look. Look at this, Look

596
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Speaker 2: at the stat we got.

597
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because Chris Bassett kind of with those home runs

598
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Speaker 1: being allowed, is kind of allowing them a little bit

599
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Speaker 1: more frequently to left handed batters. Eight of those thirteen

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Speaker 1: home runs are against lefties, in significantly less at bads.

601
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Speaker 1: And you look down the slugging percentage for Bassett versus

602
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Speaker 1: lefties and righty's. You're looking at four seventy six against

603
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Speaker 1: lefties versus three h five against righty's. So that's a

604
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Speaker 1: difference between like Elvis Andrews and Mookie Betts.

605
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, a slugging person, that really good hitter, a guy

606
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 2: who's barely a major. Yeah, basically there. So that is

607
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Speaker 2: something to keep an eye on.

608
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Speaker 1: But I don't it's hard to kind of say if

609
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Speaker 1: that is troublesome or if that's just like bad early

610
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Speaker 1: because Chris Bassett's home run for fly ball rate, which

611
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Speaker 1: is like exactly as it sounds. The rate of fly

612
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: balls that do wind up over the fence is fourteen

613
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Speaker 1: point three percent, which is a few tickets higher in

614
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Speaker 1: the league average. So I think it is something to

615
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: give us a little bit of pause, because as we

616
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Speaker 1: get deeper into the summer, we've noticed the run environment

617
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Speaker 1: changing a little bit from what we were used to

618
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Speaker 1: early in the season, whether it's getting warmer, human door's

619
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Speaker 1: doing different things in the baseballs. So maybe it's something

620
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Speaker 1: to be just take note of, not something to be

621
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Speaker 1: concerned with, but if Chris Baskets steps up with a long ball,

622
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Speaker 1: something got to pay attention to. But otherwise, another awesome

623
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Speaker 1: start for Bassett. Seven innings, five strikeouts, three earned, and

624
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Speaker 1: no walks. Chris Bassett again, John told us this one

625
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Speaker 1: hasn't walked more than three in any start this year.

626
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Speaker 2: That's so sick amazing, that's so sick. I don't Maybe

627
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 2: you can attest to this too as a fan, and

628
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys feel this. Watching a pitcher walk

629
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Speaker 2: someone is like maybe top five most frustrating things that

630
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 2: could happen in a baseball game. It doesn't really matter

631
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Speaker 2: what it even happens. Just seeing a walk is just

632
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 2: like grinds, my grinds, my gears. Free nineties. Free nineties

633
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: are no good. It's like missing free throws.

634
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Speaker 1: It's like whole holding penalties on third down.

635
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: It's just those things. You're like, why are you giving

636
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: him a shot here? Yeah?

637
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: Also, this was the third consecutive star for Bassetts that

638
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 1: he pitched into the seventh inning. Every single start since

639
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: that San Diego blow up, he has gotten into the

640
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: seventh inning and one of those completing eight and you

641
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: know got on Bess.

642
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 2: You know it too. We talked about the home run problem.

643
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: The reason it probably also hasn't really hit too hard

644
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 2: is because he doesn't walk guys. They're just barn a

645
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: whole lot of guys on base, so there are a

646
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: lot of solo shots, which good point. We see a

647
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 2: guy like Max Schurst through Justin Verlanders do that in

648
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: their career. I'm not saying Chris Bassett is those guys,

649
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 2: but you can give up the long ball and not

650
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: really get burned by it.

651
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 1: Yes, and Bassett has been a depth at doing that.

652
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Speaker 1: But this game was still tied heading into the eighth inning,

653
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: as well as basket pitch. And as much as it

654
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: felt like we got to Travor Rodgers early, but who

655
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: else besides Pete Alonzo to break the tie once again,

656
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 1: solo home run in the eighth to give us the lead.

657
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: The at bat after he popped up with basses lower

658
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: then nobody out and snapped his bat over his name.

659
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was to Zach Pop. So this is where

660
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 2: I've talked about Zach Pop, who came into the game

661
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 2: and was throwing ninety nine with incredible run on his

662
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: sink or something I'd never seen him do before. He

663
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: was He pitched the game of his life, shut down

664
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 2: the Mets in an inning where they had a chance

665
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 2: to rally. But like you said, Pete ended up getting

666
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: the second home run. This one not a cheapie, No,

667
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 2: this was an absolute bomb.

668
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: It's so crazy that in one baseball game a player

669
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: can hit two home runs and snap a bath over

670
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: his knee.

671
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense. It

672
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 2: would have to happen literally in this exact order. I

673
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: think Buck talked about it either before the game or

674
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: after the game, just talking about Pete Alonzo's mental the

675
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 2: mental side of the game. For him and was basically

676
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: giving him a major prop says, he's a guy who's

677
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: not satisfied. He wants to continue to make an impact

678
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: for this team, and that's something you love to hear

679
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: for a guy who is I don't want to call

680
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 2: the leader of this team because I don't necessarily feel

681
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: like this team has a you know, one single leader,

682
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 2: like the spiritual leader. Yes, but he is definitely the

683
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 2: guy that I feel like kind of rides the tide here.

684
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: If he's feeling well, the team's feeling well.

685
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: And it also is consistent with everything we heard about

686
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: Pete the offseason, working with the coaches very diligently, trying

687
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: to improve his approach, trying to improve his play discipline,

688
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: and have a real, true desire to get on the

689
00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: level of the guys.

690
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: Who win av He doesn't want to just be a

691
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: guy who hits forty fifty home runs. He wants to

692
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 2: be a guy who also hits close to three hundred,

693
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 2: which he is. He's somehow doing it this year. For

694
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: a guy who does have the elite power like he does,

695
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 2: you just don't see that too often. Three hundred is crazy.

696
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: I think right now in the National League has three two

697
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: or three hitters hitting three hundred, So that's that's crazy.

698
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: But like just him being last year we said two

699
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: sixty was a number of twenty percent strike out rate.

700
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: He killed both of those this year. If he can

701
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: be like an eighteen percent k rate to seventy, that

702
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: is the level which we're getting.

703
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: MVP, MVPTE and VPTE. I love saying it. People on

704
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: Twitter also get so mad every Cardinals fan. Yeah, I

705
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 2: was gonna say, especially when I retweet the Mets up

706
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: tweets about Pete being the MVP, because I do have

707
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 2: a few Cardinal followers. They really they take the bait

708
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: every single time, like, oh, Paul Goldschman exists, goes Yeah,

709
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: No one's saying he doesn't. We're just we're excited about

710
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: Pete Alonso being an MVP candidate for this team.

711
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: Absolutely one of these teams is like seven games over

712
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: five hundred and the other one's like twenty games over

713
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: five hundred, so it's a little different.

714
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Peter Alonzo, MVP, vote for him. Vote for the

715
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 2: Mets for the All Star Game too. That's we might

716
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: plug this episode. There are not enough Mets starting right now. Hour.

717
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 2: It's actually none. Yeah, there's none that are starting right

718
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: now and none and only I think one or two

719
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 2: that would be getting into the final vote. When you

720
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 2: get to do the starters again, we have three.

721
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: Jeff is closed, Pete is closed, Lindora is close as expected.

722
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: Yes, keep moving, keep it, just just stuff it five

723
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: a day. Stuffed the ballot with five a day. And

724
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: if you make up a new email ten to day. Yeah,

725
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 2: and if you make up a second new email fifteen

726
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: to day.

727
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: Now, every single Mets fan, everyone listens to podcast fifteen

728
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: a day, you're looking at like over four million, over

729
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: four million votes to day.

730
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: I mean the Royals back in twenty fifteen had Omar

731
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: and Fonte start the game at second base. Raja is

732
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: doing it this year. It's not Tago Lesbinal. Yeah. It

733
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 2: was a good little player. But yes, stuff the ballot box. Anyway,

734
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 2: enough of the all start voting. Let's finish up this

735
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: game here. Lugo came in the eighth inning, also brand

736
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: Nemo RBI RRAD double insurance run, and then Lugo came back.

737
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: Look him in before that. I don't know why I

738
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: jumped on that Nemo thing. It's okay, you were excited.

739
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: To talk about Brandon Nimo, because brand Nimo had a

740
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 2: great series rate ball player. It's a really good ball player.

741
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, Lugo came in looks sweet in his first

742
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: appearance after his wife gave birth to his child.

743
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: Also, I heard this, I think how we said it.

744
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: Apparently John can correct me here if I'm wrong. I

745
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: heard that Lugo actually wound up missing the birth, getting

746
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: stranded at either of the airport in Atlanta or something

747
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: along the way. I know, maybe fact check me on that,

748
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: but I feel like I remember Howie saying something seth

749
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: he did miss it.

750
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right, I had. How terrible is that? That's all?

751
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: That's That's gotta be crushing.

752
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: I need a strongly worded leather to whoever whatever airline.

753
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 2: Was responsible for that one. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure

754
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 2: they heard from the Lugo estate. I know the airline's

755
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: not doing well right now. I can't stand him. Edwin

756
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: Diaz ended up coming in the ninth inning, and of

757
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 2: course Edwin Diaz was disgusting again. I mean, he actually

758
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: was untouchable. He kate the side.

759
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: This was one of the best innings I've ever seen

760
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: Edward pitch. It was a strike out of the side. It

761
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: took like sixteen pitches, which is kind of classic Edwin

762
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: one hundred and two point six though, are you kidding me?

763
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he the one oh three pops up on the

764
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: on the broadcast, I lost my mind. The booth didn't

765
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: even flinch. I don't know if that's a credit to

766
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: Edwin Diaz just being so sick that this is almost

767
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: expected no one's surprised anymore, or the fact that they

768
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: didn't even realize that he threw one oh three. I

769
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: know you said two point six, but yeah, he was zipping.

770
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: It might have been a little bit of a hot

771
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: gun two in Miami, just because I'm all the guys

772
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: now that I'm thinking about. But I don't care. He

773
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: came up one O two point six. We'll take that.

774
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: Edwin Diaz maybe the best closer in baseball. I'm getting

775
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: really close to starting to say that that's not true.

776
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: It was his fastest pitch of the year. John, do

777
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: you know if that was one of the fastest of

778
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: his career. I'm sure it has to be top five

779
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,239
Speaker 1: fastest of his career. I mean know, when he came up,

780
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: he was really hitting like the one O two, one

781
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: oh three regularly.

782
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he's thrown aps some guts. I think I

783
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: really do think it was the fastest pitch of his career,

784
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: but I don't know. He's really important for us to

785
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: get that exactly right. Ah, so we got confirmation it

786
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: was indeed the fastest pitch of Edwin Diaz's career. Shou

787
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: out to Edwin. He's been so money this year. And

788
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: we win game two, we win the series. Right, You're

789
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: in the first two with a chance for a sweep

790
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: going into game three.

791
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you have the opportunity for the sweep and

792
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: you're looking at it, you want it so bad. Especially

793
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: in a weekend where the Dodgers are playing the Braves.

794
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: You know you have a shot to grab another game

795
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: on them.

796
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: You're right on it. Yeah. No, And Game three was

797
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: it was an interesting one. Yeah, it wasn't wasn't easy

798
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: to find the game on Peacock. A little bit tough, especially.

799
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: I think the free trial thing didn't necessarily work for

800
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: some people. I hope they can fix that cause the

801
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: presentation that the broadcast was fine. I think so chrisp

802
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: I prefer us and why Ifer, Gary, Keith and Ron

803
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 2: the best in the biz, but I think in terms

804
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: of national broadcasts, it was a perfectly acceptable one.

805
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: And I do think there are a lot of Peacock

806
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: games this year where they have had like a great,

807
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: great booth and it ready for it. I remember, I

808
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: think it was a Philly game from a few Sundays ago.

809
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: I just remember them having a lot of Colver characters

810
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: in the booth.

811
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: This one it was okay.

812
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: Maybe it was just the fact that a big Saturday

813
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: night and this game kind of lulled a little bit

814
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: with a noon start, but you know, it was fine.

815
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: We kind of lacked that Mets guy and o'cliff Floyd

816
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: I think was supposed to be a Mets guy. Tommy

817
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: Hutton I think was the Marlins, but Jason Bennetti did

818
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: a great job. But he's a White Sox guy, so

819
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: it's a little it's a little tough when we're used

820
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: to hearing, you know, real Mets fans talking about the Mets.

821
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: Also was a Marlin two as well. He was a Marlin.

822
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: This might have played almost as much, if not more,

823
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: as a Marlin the Mets. They showed him into Marlin's

824
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: jersey many times on the broadcast, so actually don't even

825
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: know if the Mets really even had a representative in there.

826
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 2: Not really the biggest thing that mattered to me. What

827
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: I do like though about the Peacock games though that

828
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: Newton Star time is fits bad. You really get that

829
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: game out of the way, getting an hour and a

830
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 2: half on the other games, you feel like you can

831
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: relax a little bit. Also, maybe if if the ending

832
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: would have been different, it would have been more relaxing

833
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: betther way to drift into Sunday. But no, I don't

834
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: hate the even started all. No, I don't hate the

835
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: noon start at all. And it felt like the Mets

836
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: didn't hate the noon start either, because Brandon Neimo right

837
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: from the rip double right off the bat, and he

838
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: smoked it for the third hardest hit ball of his

839
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: career at one hundred and eleven point two miles an hour.

840
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: Yes, and that was the fourth time brand Nemo's career

841
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: he'd hit a ball in play of at least one

842
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: hundred and eleven miles an hour. And get this, all

843
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: four of those have come since last August. So he

844
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: figured out something in August. We saw that wrong, saw

845
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: that home run against the Marlins too late in the year,

846
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: as well, so Neimo starting to hit the ball a

847
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: little bit harder. He just had like a phenomenal series.

848
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah overall, yeah bad. After this, brand Nimo laced a

849
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: solo home run. So the first four pitches brand Nemo

850
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: saw in this game were ball ball, double home run.

851
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: Which is so unlike Brandon Neimo to only see four

852
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: pitches and two at bats. Also not swinging the bad one. Yes,

853
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: not swinging a bad one, which is great. He's so good.

854
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: He's so good. I just a baseball player. I don't

855
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: know how many times we have to say it. He's great.

856
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: It seems like he's feeling a little bit healthier too,

857
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: because we know we went through that a little bit

858
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: of a rough patch. It seems like he's starting to

859
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: get back into the groove of things.

860
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: He's also just put himself on like an elite tier

861
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: of leadoff hitters, Like.

862
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: There are not five leadoff hitters.

863
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, And I'm saying this is off the

864
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: cuff right now, having gone throughout thirty teams in my head,

865
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: but I can't think of that many leof hits I'd

866
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: rather have over him.

867
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like Mookie Betts, who's like one of

868
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: the five in baseball. Technically, Trey Turner, you're naming the

869
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: ten best players in baseball right now, you're just saying

870
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: three of them. Here's a crazy one. I think I

871
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: actually don't know your answer, Like Springer, Yeah, like maybe

872
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: for power wise you could you can make an argument

873
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: though either way there. Yeah, he's he's phenomenal, but brand

874
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: Neimo is one hundred in that conversation with an elite

875
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: leadoff hitter.

876
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: In Major League bas fantastic. But then that first inning

877
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: we got too excited about brand Nemo. We wound up

878
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: with first and second nobody out and did not score

879
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: a run, and that kind of felt like a bit

880
00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: of a bad omen for what was gonna have.

881
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, we spoke about this on the podcast before. Anytime

882
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: we get that that rally in the first and can't

883
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: score runs, it usually means something bad. You text me

884
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: in that moment we're done. Yeah, I said, don't like this.

885
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: That's not that's not a good sign. And boy were

886
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: right because John Birdie on the other side let off

887
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: the inning. Was it the first pitch he saw too

888
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: won a quick piss so quick early in the bat.

889
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: Early in the that bat blooped the double, because of

890
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: course John Birdie does, because that's just he is such

891
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: a thorn in our side. I do not like John

892
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: Birdie unless he's a part of the Mets, then I

893
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 2: respect him. I respect him though I will respect him.

894
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: But oh, that bloop in the first inning really made

895
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: me go, m this isn't gonna be an easy game

896
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: against Daniel Castano today. No.

897
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: And then also because the Marlins scratched got him home

898
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: after that and eventually to jump kind of back out,

899
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: took the lead in the third inning on that Nimmo

900
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: home run that we mentioned to tie the game, and

901
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: Pete a Lonzo with the funniest, cheapest, strangest, most bizarre

902
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: double I've seen in a very long time, with hilariously

903
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: him on the mic saying that Pete ran like a

904
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: polar bear.

905
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're making front of how he slid. To

906
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: be fair, the slide was not graceful by any means. No,

907
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: And this ball was fifty one miles an hour off.

908
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: The bat traveled an incredible one hundred and thirty three

909
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,959
Speaker 2: feet and included Pete basically banging his face into the ground.

910
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 2: A couple jps for Pete this weekend. Actually, there was

911
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: a plan.

912
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: I forgot to mention the game too, that the slide

913
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: may remember the Lindor slide into second or was that

914
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: today was Sunday?

915
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: Was today? That was Sunday? Yeah, I guess talk about later.

916
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: Then we'll just keep going. We'll just keep going. The

917
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: Mets had a chance to get more runs of sitting,

918
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: they ended up not getting any. They did leave some

919
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: more guys on And this was a little bit of

920
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: a weird theme for this series was that the Mets

921
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: struggle with runners in the scoring position. And I think

922
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 2: a big reason why is that the lineup, which normally

923
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: has Jeff McNeil come up in these spots, was now

924
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: having Eduardo Escobar or even Luis gi Orme, who is

925
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: still playing great. Still love Luis, but he can't get

926
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 2: it hit every time either. And even James muccann coming

927
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: up in these last two games, because we forgot to

928
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: mention mccam played in the last two.

929
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: Games, activated for Saturday or activating on Friday, but started playing.

930
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Mets struggle with runers in scoring position.

931
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: I'm just getting the stat here real quick. For you

932
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: Canelill score the big run on Saturday. I remember him

933
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: hooking around the base. He was, oh yeah, he was moving.

934
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: He was moving. He was moving. But the Mets for

935
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: this series were four for twenty seven with runners in

936
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: scoring position, which was not very good, and in this

937
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 2: game one for thirteen, not great.

938
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: And the only hit was that Pete Alonzo hit, Like

939
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: I said, that was fifty one miles an hour off

940
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: the bat and traveled one hundred and thirty three feet.

941
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: So I don't know what it was, but Daniel Castano

942
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: was able to lock down the Mets, especially when he

943
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 2: beared down with runners of scoring position.

944
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: But this is also something that we talked about a

945
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: lot last season when we were trying to wonder with

946
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: his risp. But RISP is at some point it's a

947
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: bit of a nonsense like stat statistically like, it's not

948
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: that I can't find the word for right now, but

949
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: it's a lot of randomness that goes into just getting hits,

950
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: especially getting hits with a certain men on base. We've

951
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: seen the Mets excel in this year because they put

952
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: the ball in play a lot, have I believe, the

953
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 1: highest batting average in all baseball still I think so. Yeah,

954
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: it was just kind of is some days those balls

955
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: drop in and some days those don't drop in, and

956
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: that's kind of this was a series where they didn't

957
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: really drop in that much. But we're being all negative

958
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: now about the lineup. I do want to give a

959
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: little tip of the cap to David Peterson, who continues

960
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: to be amazing, taken us two or three steps forward

961
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: that day this.

962
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: Year, really really really good. I feel like the last

963
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 2: few episodes that we've had where he's made an appearance

964
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: or made a start, we've been praising him and been

965
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: super excited, but we've kind of tried to be calm,

966
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: keep it level headed. But it feels like this was

967
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: a start where everything kind of culminated into the David

968
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: Pearson might just be real good. And there were moments

969
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: early in this game and happened kind of throughout where

970
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: he was like espelt like he was yanking some of

971
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: his pitches, like missing high or miss and low of

972
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 2: the slyther. But also we have to keep in mind

973
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: that Peterson's wife has been like on the doorstep of

974
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: giving birth for almost entire week, and I can't even

975
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: imagine what that is doing to his psyche and what's

976
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 2: going through his mind every single time he's made two

977
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 2: starts since they were like his wife's about to get

978
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: first two starts. Yeah, our Funday and Sunday, our first

979
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: episode with the Mets, we were talking about David Peterson

980
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: possibly not even making that start because his wife should

981
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 2: have been having a baby.

982
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: And now what's something still hasn't happened yet, So shout

983
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: out miss Peterson.

984
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 2: Really hope we get healthy delivery there soon.

985
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: But Peterson seven innings, eight strike goods to earn, no

986
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: walks going back for his last two stars twelve and

987
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: the third inning, fifteen strikeouts, only two earned runs and

988
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: just two walks over that last twelve and the third innings.

989
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: And I'm saying it, guys, this slyther that David Peterson

990
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: has worked to develop over the last few years is

991
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: throwing it a little.

992
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: Bit more now. It is so ridiculous.

993
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: Along with the fact that he's throwing four steam fastballs

994
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: hid in his zone with Slider's loan zone. I put

995
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: the little illustrated from Savant up of his pitch chart

996
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: after this game Slader's low fastballs high.

997
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 2: He has a plan. He's executing that plan.

998
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: That Slider had nine whists four to three percent with

999
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: right He's he's so good right now, and him with

1000
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: this repertoire, it makes me think that there is a chance,

1001
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: depending on if we get like all like the best

1002
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: case scenario, like ninety percentile outcome for all of our

1003
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: pitchers the rest of the year, he could be.

1004
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: A dominant like long reliever bullpen arm at some point. Oh,

1005
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: he would have immense value if his looks like Andrew Miller.

1006
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: But he also might be the snare where he stays

1007
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: in the certain rotation he keeps switching like this and

1008
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 2: giving us seven innings.

1009
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: I'm only saying that because I think he has one

1010
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: of the repertoires in this rotation right now that lends

1011
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: itself the most to being successful at the bullpen, especially

1012
00:37:59,000 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: the fact that we do need to left.

1013
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 2: You love throwing guys in the bullpen.

1014
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: I just I just think if you pitch a guy

1015
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: for three and the seven, stuff can be better. And

1016
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: of course, and if all of these starters come back,

1017
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: we have to bump somebody.

1018
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: I guess that's fair. Somebody has to be bumped. Yeah,

1019
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: he probably is the lowest on the toepole. But let

1020
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: me tell you, the dude is he's awesome. He's so

1021
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: good he's so good, Like, don't even worry about where

1022
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: he's gonna go in the rotation right now. Just be

1023
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: happy that this guy is pitching every five days because

1024
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that being you know, yeah, the way

1025
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: he has been, like you said, this slider is a

1026
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 2: game changer watching it on TV now for what is

1027
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: what the fifth sixth start of the year, where it's

1028
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: really been you know, hammering at home. It's just a

1029
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: really really hard pitch to hit. Pitching Ninja just giving

1030
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: him bluff. Yeah, you're on pitching Ninja. You know you're

1031
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: doing something right.

1032
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: And he's able to throw it successfully against right these

1033
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: and lefties. That's what's separating him with this pitch. It's unbelievable.

1034
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: I think that is where development has come the most,

1035
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: because he's very long relied in his change up but

1036
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: just still I think, a decent pitch. It's fine in

1037
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: terms of everything else, but the fact that this lier

1038
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: has become a weapon against players from both sides of

1039
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: the plate.

1040
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: It gives him very little to no weaknesses.

1041
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: And that's the guy David Peterston who we who we've

1042
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: had choice worse for in this podcast. Between this development

1043
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: between the any decision made around him.

1044
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 2: There was a lot, but that was it.

1045
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: And I do want to mention though, that your boy,

1046
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: Miguel Rojas, another met Killer, another met Killer, hit a

1047
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: home run to tie this game. First home run that

1048
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: Peers is allowed to a rity all year, using that

1049
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: sliler low and in back foot.

1050
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: But that was kind of tough and from that moment on,

1051
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: this game loll at the time. Yeah really lowd. The

1052
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: broadcast was googling over Miguel Rojas's home run as if

1053
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: the greatest shortstop in baseball. Game leader, yeah, team leader.

1054
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: They were talking about how great he was. I was like,

1055
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: all right, let's calm down. He has a seven hundred

1056
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: oh ps this year. He's playing fine baseball. Actually, seven

1057
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: hundred o PS's better than league average. He's fine. That's

1058
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: not I wasn't like an insult or any no. But

1059
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 2: they were acting as if he was the one ops

1060
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: plus they were acting like he's the MVP in the

1061
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 2: making right here, Miguel Rojas with that home run and

1062
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 2: how big it was for this Moorlands team or when

1063
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 2: he hit this game, get them back what you need

1064
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: one turning around, you were right, This game lolled and

1065
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 2: lolled and lolled, and just nothing kind of happened until

1066
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 2: we got to the ninth. We're Adam Otavino's in the game,

1067
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: and he's been so good, so good. He's been great,

1068
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: so great. But the inning started off a little bit weird,

1069
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 2: started off a little crazy, got some hard balls put

1070
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: into play. Luis gi Urmay made one of the best

1071
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: catches I've ever seen infielder make my entire life full

1072
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: superman dive layout, caught it with the tip of his glove,

1073
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: and this guy just continues to be a wizard in

1074
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 2: the field. He also went ending on Saturday where they

1075
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 2: were back to background balls over the back that he

1076
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 2: just went over them and just got the first base. Seasonly,

1077
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: it's like not even surprising anymore, Like he makes the

1078
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 2: play and I go, yeah, that that's Louis. Of course,

1079
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: Louis ki Urmy made it. The guys, of course, national

1080
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,959
Speaker 2: broadcasters they don't watch. I'm sure Jasonnetti he's busy watching

1081
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 2: the White Sox. Yeah, he was flabbergastied. And that's to

1082
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: be fair, that was the appropriate reaction to have on

1083
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: this play because it was absolutely disgusting.

1084
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're approaching a point where, like us Mets fans,

1085
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: we know Luis. Hear me very well now, but he's

1086
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: probably one of the better kept secrets in baseball.

1087
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a He's a fantastically kept secret. He's such

1088
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 2: a secret. He is not in the All Star ballot.

1089
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 2: Rite him in Luis Gki or my for All Star

1090
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: Game third base DH Catcher. I believe you're allowed to

1091
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: write him in for a rie him in anyway you can.

1092
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: But right after this, I mean, what not even a

1093
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: pitcher too later, I don't remember because it was just

1094
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 2: it happened in a blur. Nick Fortes just absolutely soon

1095
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: smokes smokes a hang insider from Adam Montovino happens, and

1096
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: to the Cap Mets lose this game walk off home run.

1097
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: It's stunk because the Mets should have beat Daniel Castano

1098
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: and the Marlins bullpen and Steven Okert and all these

1099
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: random guys that they threw out there was actually nice. Yeah,

1100
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 2: but they're all random, I'm.

1101
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: Know, But that that means they definitely the ram does

1102
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: not mean they're good. As the relievers work, the shelf

1103
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: life is unbelievable. They're like fruit flies.

1104
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, They're like fruit flies. Why couldn't he be

1105
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: a fruit fly of this game and stick but a

1106
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: million second fruit flies, The fact that they come quickly

1107
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: and they leave fast. Whatever. I'm I'm not gonna give

1108
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: the Marlins bullpen as much credit as you are. But

1109
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 2: that's just this.

1110
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: That's the first step when you see a team figuring

1111
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 1: it out that they have guys like Luis Steven Okert

1112
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: pop out of nowhere and Jimmy Acabona is throwing fourteen

1113
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: inch breaking two seam.

1114
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: Fastballs pop all the other days.

1115
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: I popped there ninety miles an hour two years ago.

1116
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: I told you abou Zac Popp he just had eight

1117
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: miles an hour velocity.

1118
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got you got lucky with that one. There

1119
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 2: was no reason for Slider like the slither Marlins. They've

1120
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: had a lot of really really close games this year.

1121
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: They're actually tied for the most walk off losses. So

1122
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 2: I mean, they got one here, and that could also

1123
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 2: be a function of like road games or his own games. Well,

1124
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: they were saying that they just they play a lot

1125
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: of really close one run games in general because they

1126
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: pitched pretty well. They pitch alright, they pitched pretty pretty well.

1127
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: That's exactly they also don't score a lot of runs,

1128
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: No exactly. That's why you get a lot of the

1129
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: walk off situations. But overall, you can't really be that

1130
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: upset with this series.

1131
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: Like guys played well also do again, I mean talk

1132
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: about I want to out there ciscoll indoors slide. I

1133
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: remember what day it happenss been again a long weekend

1134
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: and have been two burrows in.

1135
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 2: Two states today.

1136
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: Him just swim moving like supermanning out of the way

1137
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: of the jazz chism tag was crazy.

1138
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was on Saturday. That was sada because Jazz

1139
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 2: was playing such a sweet, cool, chill play. His face

1140
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: on the ground too, was kind of funny. But Marlins

1141
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: couldn't win a single challenge. They challenged I feel like,

1142
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 2: every play this series and lost every single one of them.

1143
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 2: Their replay guy horrible, our replay guy great Buck was

1144
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: given mad props to the replay guy after the double challenge.

1145
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: You play. That's nice.

1146
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: I love that's Also when you're losing challenges, that's kind

1147
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: of the sign of a coach who's losing his way.

1148
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a huge down that matting.

1149
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: That's like some of what this one NFL what's his

1150
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: name Naggy, Matt Naggy did it like he had so

1151
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: many bad challenges last year, just being like, I hope

1152
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: they changed the call.

1153
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it did not work out well. Mets still

1154
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: win the series, though again I saw some negative discourse

1155
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: still and it's it's got to because the Braves breathing

1156
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 2: down our back. But this is a different five is

1157
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: breathing down. This is a different breathing down our back

1158
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 2: than in years past. Like again, last year we talked

1159
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 2: about it. At this time, we were like seven games

1160
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 2: above five hundred, when the Braves were five out, We're

1161
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: twenty games. I think by this.

1162
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: Time last year, this Mets team was already really floundering.

1163
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were starting to. They were starting to, we

1164
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: were starting to, like in the middle of they were

1165
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: there were seven games above five hundred, I know from

1166
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: the fact that I know for a fact it was

1167
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: seven or six games. So it was like a lot

1168
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 2: different than being twenty games over five hundred like the

1169
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 2: Mets currently are. Don't worry about the Braves, worry about

1170
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: the Mets. The Mets won two of three. That's a

1171
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: good series for them. It could have been great though,

1172
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: And there's also a situation where it was a.

1173
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: Bad RISP series. I only even like saying that word.

1174
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: Just sometimes the balls dropping sometimes I don't. That's the

1175
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: nature of the statistic. And I'm confident that the way

1176
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: the teams hit this year that good things are will

1177
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: happen eventually.

1178
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,959
Speaker 2: And I hope that they continue to hit going into

1179
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: this next series because the Astros are coming to town

1180
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: for a two game series, thank goodness, after having a

1181
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: four game series with the Yankees in which they split

1182
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: sixteen innings where the Yankees didn't get a hit in

1183
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: a row. The pitching and they still found ways to

1184
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: lose two games. Yeah, the pitching has been unbelievable. So

1185
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: we know we just saw them recently, we saw them

1186
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: last week. We know this isn't going to be an

1187
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: easy series. One of the better teams in all of baseball,

1188
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 2: but just like the Mets, also one of the better

1189
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: teams in all of baseball. So what are the pitching

1190
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: matchups looking like? Here? Who are we going to see?

1191
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: Let's who are gonna smack around? Because I think the

1192
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: Mets bats are gonna come alive in Cityfield.

1193
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: We're going to see one guy we saw last week

1194
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: Tuesday night is going to be Carlos carrasco versus Luis

1195
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: Garcia and Wednesday.

1196
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: I don't know who's gonna pitch Wednesday for the Mets, technically, right, Yeah,

1197
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think it's it's says Trevor Williams.

1198
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 2: I think on ESPN, but I think it's possible that

1199
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: could be the return. No, he's doing a rehap start.

1200
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: Did you not see a shrewsers thing at or press?

1201
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 2: I don't want to say press conference because it's not right.

1202
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: But Max was talking to the reporters. I don't know

1203
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: if it was in Florida or in Miami wherever it was,

1204
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: but he was stressing I cannot have a setback. We

1205
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 2: cannot have a setback. So it's is true his energy

1206
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: was nuts. He was also win the dugout who was

1207
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: hyping up Lindora on Saturday too. Yeah. No, I think

1208
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,959
Speaker 2: this guy is itching to get back. He just wants

1209
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: to make sure it's right so that he doesn't have

1210
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: to ever miss any more time with this team.

1211
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't really want him to at all, so

1212
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: that I guess that probably will be Trevor Williams. Yeah,

1213
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: probably there wasn't off day so we can operate with

1214
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: four pitchers. We could in theory, yeah, we couldn't see

1215
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: what the Mets do with these arms. It will always

1216
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: be interesting. And that game is going to be against

1217
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: vanber Valdez, who is hilarious ground ball machine.

1218
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: I love framber Valdez.

1219
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: He's apparently also like a really like clamboyant guy, like

1220
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: he dresses like in crazy stuff.

1221
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: He has a lot of fun. He's got high energy.

1222
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: He just goes out there and throws bowling ball sinkers

1223
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: over and over again, so he pound him into the ground.

1224
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: His story is also really interesting too, because he was

1225
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 2: a prospect in the ASTRO, I don't know, in the ASH,

1226
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: whatever organization he was in. It was probably the ASH.

1227
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 2: But he was struggling. He was having a hard time

1228
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 2: pitching and and he ended up getting a sports psychologist,

1229
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 2: and a sports psychologist cleared his brain nice. And that's

1230
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: what really he credits for his career taking off was

1231
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: being able to master the mental side. He always had

1232
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 2: the physical ability as a pitcher, but the mental side

1233
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 2: had always been tough for him. And ever since then,

1234
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: frambervald is his low key been one of the better

1235
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: pitchers in baseball. He just he gets.

1236
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: Ground balls at such a rate that's almost impossible for

1237
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: you to do legitimate damage against him.

1238
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: Sixty nine percent ground balls on the year. Nice, nice.

1239
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: Six innings pitch and eleven straight starts going back over

1240
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: three years.

1241
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: The guy is a horse.

1242
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the few pitches in baseball

1243
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: averaging six innings pitch going back to two thousand alums

1244
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: saw I had this tweet from a month ago on

1245
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: the first pitch when I used to do that podcast.

1246
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,479
Speaker 1: There are six innings a lot. He just it's hard

1247
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: to damage against him. He keeps the ball down, he

1248
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: doesn't let you list it, and he just pounds pounds

1249
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: pounds pounds the zone.

1250
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 2: Jeremy Pinia will also be back for the Astros in

1251
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 2: this series, citing young short stuff. He's sick. He's unbelievable.

1252
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: He's like he looks like a running back. He's so strong,

1253
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: like his neck is like, why are you playing baseball? Talented?

1254
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: We'll love to have seen him miss a litle bit.

1255
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: I would love to see a little more. Mauricio Dubon, Yeah,

1256
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: I think you probably still he'll still mix in this series.

1257
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure he will. Yeah, I'll find a way Sastre's

1258
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: team that we just saw him. We know how good

1259
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 2: they are. They are one of the best teams in baseball,

1260
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: one of the most consistent organizations in baseball.

1261
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: They don't really do a lot of things wrong. The

1262
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: top of their order is ferocious. It is going to

1263
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: be a little interesting to see them. Playoffs have minu

1264
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: made though this year. Not as easy to get the

1265
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: ball out in right field at city Field as there's

1266
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: a mini ma Park or left field or left field Lefield.

1267
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: City Field's not the hardest to get out of. No,

1268
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: it's not the hardest, but Crawford boxes. Yeah, anything is

1269
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: like you're playing in a little league part. If you're

1270
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: in the area, you really should come to the Astros

1271
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 2: Mets series because you get to see your Don Alvarez,

1272
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: who is one of the best hitters in all of baseball.

1273
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: You get to see an extremely talented team, Kyle Tucker,

1274
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: Michael Brandleyck Gregg.

1275
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: We're also going to look at Hoose al Tuve, who

1276
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: his prime is waning. He is one of the Markey

1277
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: players of our generation. Probably one of the best ratios

1278
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: ever of height to talent that we've ever seen across

1279
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: any sport.

1280
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 2: He's pretty ridiculous. He's unbelievable. He's a great player. First

1281
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: time back in Queen since twenty fourteen Sept. Twenty fourteen.

1282
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: And we'll also be in both games. Yep, we will

1283
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 2: both be there. So if you see us at the stadium,

1284
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: make sure you say what's up. We are happy to

1285
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: talk to you, guys. We appreciate you, guys all for

1286
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 2: listening to the podcast, The Mets Up Podcast, the official

1287
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: podcast of the New York Mets. Still still pretty crazy

1288
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 2: that we do get to say that on an episodal,

1289
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Speaker 2: episodial basis. Is that the word episode episodal, episodic, episodic.

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Speaker 2: We're not We're not words, people, We're not words. Got

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Speaker 2: we like baseball over here. That's what we're here to

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Speaker 2: talk to you guys about. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: listening to this episode of the Mets up Podcast. If

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Speaker 2: you're listening to us, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, Odyssey, wherever

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Speaker 2: Mets up on Twitter, Instagram, the YouTube. If you're looking

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Speaker 2: for the YouTube videos, they are on the official Mets

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Speaker 2: YouTube channel. So keep an eye out for those. Follow

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Speaker 2: James on Twitter at James Shanna, Follow me on Twitter

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Speaker 2: at your rapneck Mark. I don't think we have anything

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Speaker 2: else to shout out here, right, nothing really, just I've

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Speaker 2: gotta be disasters team.

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Speaker 1: They're one of the best teams in baseball. You want

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Speaker 1: to be one of the best teams in baseball, you

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Speaker 1: gotta be one.

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Speaker 2: Of the best teams in baseball. You know what's I

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Speaker 2: think the I think the Mets do. I think we're

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Speaker 2: gonna be alright this series. Thanks for listening, guys, thanks

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Speaker 2: for watching. We'll see you on the.

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Speaker 1: Next episode after the after series peace out, peace out,

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Speaker 1: See you next time.

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Speaker 2: Get up.