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Speaker 1: Welcome to the forty nine ers You've Got Mail Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Lindsay Flaris and this is sponsored by

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Speaker 1: Delta Dental. Today we've got two special guests, full back

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Speaker 1: KYLEI Uschek and running back Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys for taking the time.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, thanks for having us.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 1: Part of the reason that I wanted to get both

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Speaker 1: of you guys on the pod is because of this

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Speaker 1: wonderful dancing meme that's been floating around the internet.

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Speaker 2: We'll zoom in for you guys. Can you explain the

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Speaker 2: story behind this? Christian?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was just us in the off season.

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Speaker 5: We were bored and we wanted to make a dance

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Speaker 5: video and so we went out back and recorded that.

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Speaker 4: That's just boys being bloys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it took us about five minutes to

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Speaker 5: get the steps down and made that video.

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Speaker 2: Do the boys tap dance?

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Speaker 5: Can if we put our minds to it, can't put

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Speaker 5: a lid on our container.

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Speaker 3: We won't do anything.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: So George actually described you as a meme king at

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Speaker 1: one point.

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Speaker 2: Can you confirm that for us?

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Speaker 6: Say, being in a Instagram group chat with a Christian

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Speaker 6: and George, you get a lot of memes.

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Speaker 2: Is there a particular type of meme?

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Speaker 3: I'm all over the place. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: put myself in one lane. I'm kind of all over

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Speaker 3: the place.

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Speaker 2: Do you have an old timer?

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Speaker 5: I mean, off the top of my head, no, but

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Speaker 5: I'm sure if you go down to the archives you

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Speaker 5: can find some funny ones.

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Speaker 2: I like that, all right.

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Speaker 1: So, Christian, you are a little past the one year

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Speaker 1: mark of being here with San Francisco. Since then, you've

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Speaker 1: built the relationships, You've gone on the playoff run with

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, and now it's as if you've seamlessly transitioned

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Speaker 1: onto this team.

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Speaker 2: We'll went into that.

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Speaker 5: For you, you know, honestly, it was it was you know,

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Speaker 5: for me personally, it was just about learning the plays

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Speaker 5: as quick as possible and just being myself. It's such

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Speaker 5: an easy team to fit into if you do the

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Speaker 5: right thing, because you know, you've got guys like Juice

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Speaker 5: and guys like George and you know, to list a

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Speaker 5: bunch of others. Such an easy team to fit into.

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Speaker 5: They welcomed me in with open arms, and for me,

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Speaker 5: it was just all about, you know, make sure I

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Speaker 5: earn everyone's respect and work as hard as I can

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Speaker 5: to try to do my job as.

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Speaker 2: Best as possible as it was happening.

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Speaker 1: I know you didn't have a lot of time to

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Speaker 1: think about it because it was the middle of week seven,

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Speaker 1: there was a game coming up. Do you think about

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Speaker 1: it now that you've got a little more time to

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Speaker 1: reflect or I guess during the off season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean right now obviously still right now we're

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Speaker 3: in it. Yeah, but uh, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, I think I'm just very grateful to be here.

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Speaker 5: I would say that, you know, I think every day

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Speaker 5: I feel very fortunate to be a part of such

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Speaker 5: a great organization that you know, does things the right

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Speaker 5: way with guys who care, guys who love to be here,

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Speaker 5: love to work.

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Speaker 3: And you know, it's motivating to come into the building

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Speaker 3: every day.

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Speaker 1: At one point, both of you were the new guys

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Speaker 1: in the locker room. Kyle, you came over from the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens in that very first free agent class that

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch put together.

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Speaker 2: What's it like to walk into a locker.

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Speaker 1: Room where you may know of the guys, but unfamiliar territory.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a little different for me.

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Speaker 6: Because I felt like everybody was new at that point,

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Speaker 6: like we really just kind of clean shot. It was

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Speaker 6: a whole new start, all new players, all new coaches.

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Speaker 3: Like.

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Speaker 6: So it was a little easier for me because I

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Speaker 4: Christian, I mean, it's literally complete opposite.

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Speaker 6: He came mid season and he is the new guy,

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Speaker 6: so you can get a little different experience.

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Speaker 5: It was nice though, because you could tell that these

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Speaker 5: guys have built that culture. And that was something that

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Speaker 5: I noticed I picked up on right away, and it

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Speaker 5: was comfortable with each other and they did things a

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Speaker 5: certain way, and I think that's part of what made

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Speaker 5: it easy to fit in, and it was this is

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Speaker 5: the way we do it. Everybody was completely bought in,

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Speaker 5: and so if you wanted to fit in, you just

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Speaker 5: do it the way, and you know, follow the guys

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Speaker 5: who were the leaders on the team.

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Speaker 1: Dig back in the memory bank, who was the first

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Speaker 1: person to reach out make you feel welcome here in

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Speaker 1: this forty nine ers organization?

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Speaker 3: My U.

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Speaker 5: When I got traded, I got a call from the

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Speaker 5: Carolina Panthers GM, and then I got a call from

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Speaker 5: John Lynch and I got a call from George.

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Speaker 3: He was my third call, and had I had met.

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Speaker 5: George like a couple of times just through the grapevine,

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Speaker 5: and we had kept in touch via social media a

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Speaker 5: little bit. But yeah, he was my third call, and

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Speaker 5: so you know, once again to have someone like him

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Speaker 5: reach out and then you go in the building and

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Speaker 5: it's i mean, everybody was just so you know, welcoming.

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Speaker 3: So made my you know, job and transition very easy.

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Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure within minutes of the trade, George had

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Speaker 6: called Christian and talked to our head equipment manager about

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Speaker 6: having a locker to be next to his Georgia x

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Speaker 6: fast on those type of things.

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Speaker 1: Did the idea you had of George just from meeting

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Speaker 1: him briefly live up to exactly who he is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I had met him in the past,

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Speaker 5: and you know, George is George. He doesn't hide who

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Speaker 5: he is, and he's that way and he's genuine all

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Speaker 5: the time, and I think that's what makes him, you know,

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Speaker 1: For you, Kyle, who is left from that twenty seventeen group,

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Speaker 1: maybe well from the Free Asian class, I believe you are.

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Speaker 1: I'm the only the only one, right, but who's left

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Speaker 1: from that?

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Speaker 6: We still got George was drafted that year, Dwelly came

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Speaker 6: in that year, and Armstead was still around from the

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Speaker 4: I think that's it.

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Speaker 1: How have you seen this organization grow in your seven

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's it's I mean, it's completely turned around.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 6: When we first came here, it was all about, all right,

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Speaker 6: what do we want this to look like? You know,

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Speaker 6: what kind of culture do we want to build? What

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Speaker 6: do we want it to feel like when you walk

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Speaker 6: into the building every single day and to see where

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Speaker 6: it's at now, where, like Christian said, when he walked in,

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Speaker 6: like he could feel it, he knew right away, like, oh,

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Speaker 6: there's a culture here, there's a certain way that.

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Speaker 3: They do things.

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Speaker 6: And it's really cool to be a part of that

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Speaker 6: group that you know, had a vision of all right,

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Speaker 6: this is what we want it to be, and we're

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Speaker 6: going to bring in guys that can do that sort

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Speaker 6: a part of it, it's a unique, cool thing to

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Speaker 1: When did you start to feel that transition happen? Starting

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Speaker 1: to see the turnaround and into that culture that you

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Speaker 1: feel now.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's hard not to say that it wasn't

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Speaker 6: and I honestly like props to Kyle and John. Even

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Speaker 6: by the end of that first season and seventeen, you know,

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Speaker 6: we started off one nine obviously, but we finished six

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Speaker 4: You know, things were starting to click.

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Speaker 6: We are starting to figure out a few things and

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Speaker 6: had really high expectations going into eighteen. But of course

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Speaker 6: when Jimmy tore or tores acl that kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: What is it about this culture that really does put

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Speaker 1: those teams together that are built to last?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know what.

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Speaker 6: Alluding kind of to what Christian was saying earlier is

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Speaker 6: like Kyle, I like what he says, to be.

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Speaker 4: A part of our club is what we'll say.

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Speaker 6: Like, if you want to be a part of this,

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Speaker 6: but you have to do things a certain way, and

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Speaker 6: you have to work a certain way, and you have

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Speaker 6: to play a certain way, and it's not always easy

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Speaker 6: know it. And Christian one hundred percent was one of

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Speaker 6: have a locker room full of those type of guys.

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Speaker 6: And another you know, shout out to our coaches, Bobby t.

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Speaker 6: He always says he wants things to be contagious. He

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Speaker 6: wants it to be a sickness. And when you see

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Speaker 6: you want to do the same thing for them because

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Speaker 6: you see them doing it for you.

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Speaker 1: Christian, you have been described as somebody incredibly detail oriented,

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Speaker 1: very meticulous in just the way they do things. How

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Speaker 1: much of that has to do with your upbringing, having

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Speaker 1: your dad who is a three times Super Bowl winner

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Speaker 1: and also coached.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I credit a lot of it to him.

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Speaker 5: You know, I had a great source right in my house,

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Speaker 5: so we got to utilize him and my others for

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Speaker 5: almost everything. You know, he taught us not just what

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Speaker 5: And I think all of us had a competitive drive

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Speaker 5: since we were young, and that was kind of natural,

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Speaker 5: and that always came, but to understand what it takes

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Speaker 5: to be great and to fight for those small percentages

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Speaker 5: that make the difference between winning a rep and losing

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Speaker 5: a rep.

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Speaker 3: Now, we learned from him. I learned from my older brother.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: My older brother was somebody that he used to you know,

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Speaker 5: beat me in pretty much everything we ever did. And

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Speaker 5: I learned how to lose and how to get better

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Speaker 5: to try to beat him the next time. I learned

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Speaker 5: what works and what doesn't from him, And I credit

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Speaker 5: a lot of that to my dad, to my older brother.

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Speaker 5: My mom is extremely feisty as well, but our family

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Speaker 5: was very close and competitive with each other, and I

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Speaker 5: think a lot of that detail oriented mindset comes from them.

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Speaker 1: Is there are there any similarities that now as you

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Speaker 1: get older you see between you and your dad that

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Speaker 1: maybe you didn't notice before.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's hard because I didn't play with him.

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Speaker 5: I just you know, I was his son, and he

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Speaker 5: was always a dad first. You know, he wasn't always

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Speaker 5: I mean, if you spend one workout with him, it'll

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Speaker 1: Like you mentioned a lot of history with Kyle Shanahan,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, everyone said that. You know,

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Speaker 6: I feel like one of the reasons Kyle was able

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Speaker 4: And I say that because I remember my first year.

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