1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. We have the 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: pleasure of sitting down with j K. Dobbins, one of 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: our favorite dudes. I gotta say, and uh, j K, 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: I just want to start here, Like, you must be 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: having a blast right now, you know, like you're back, 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: you're healthy, you're running the ball really well. The team 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: is running the ball really well in general, Like you 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: gotta be having a blast. Yeah, I am. I'm having 9 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: a big blast. You know. Um, I'm healthy, but not 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: all the way healthy. It's with Asterix. It's healthy Asterix, 11 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: not all the way back to pre but you're good. 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: My knee is good. I just gotta get my knee 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: back in shape, all the way back in shape, you know. 14 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: So it's good though I am having a blast. You know, 15 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: everyone else on the team is having a blast as well, 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: so it's been good. Yeah. How happy are you that 17 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: you had that scope procedure in the middle of the season, 18 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: so you know, you're coming back from the major injury 19 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: and then in the middle of the season you made 20 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: a decision like you didn't have to do it. You 21 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: made the decision to have the scope to kind of 22 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 1: clean things up and get some more range emotion in there, right, 23 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: and now it looks like it's pain dividends. Yeah, yeah, 24 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: So I was like a lot of people don't know, 25 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: but I got woke up. I got woken up out 26 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: of my sleep by God to tell me to do that. 27 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: Like I was sleeping. Um, I can't remember which gaming 28 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: was after and um, I just woke about in the 29 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: middle of my sleep, you know, I've been talking to 30 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: God about it. And I walked up out the middle 31 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: of my sleep and scope was on mylne like, so 32 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: I got woken up to tell the doctors that I'm 33 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: going to do the scope, you know. So a lot 34 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: of people didn't want me to do it, you know, 35 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: but I just got put on my heart and told 36 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: me that I needed to do it. And I did 37 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: it and the first game back, I go for one twenties. 38 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: So he was the right decision. What does God sound like? 39 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: Because the booming voice, get the school because all different 40 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: dresses and that what was what was you said people 41 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: that some people didn't want you to do it? Like 42 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: what was the hesitation? Like why not? A lot of 43 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: people didn't want me to sit out? A lot of 44 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: people weren't informed on it. You know a lot of people. 45 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: I thought it would be bad for me, you know, 46 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: so um, a lot of peop will trying to persuade 47 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: me not to do it. But I stuck with it. 48 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: I had to stick I had to stick with it 49 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: because I wouldn't like me. I wasn't myself. I wasn't 50 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: myself mentally, my personality wasn't the same because I just 51 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: wasn't me. Like. Um, it was tough. It was a 52 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: tough time because I knew my knee wasn't right. I 53 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: convened and I was out there running like it's kind 54 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: of problem. So I was like, yeah, I gotta I 55 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: gotta do this right. How much better do you feel now? 56 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: Like if you're you know, grading your percentages everybody you 57 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: know zero? Like what were you before the scope and 58 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: what do you feel like you're at now? Oh? Yeah, 59 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: Before the scope, I was like I play like I say, 60 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: like se seventy summer somewhere in there. But now I'm 61 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: probably in the nineties right now. Yeah, in the nineties, 62 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: right now, I would say, you know, I just gotta 63 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: get that last little bit, you know, which comes with 64 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: time and you know, strengthening and stuff like that. So 65 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: it's coming now. You've been pretty upfront about how you 66 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: feel like you're not at top speed yet, right, But 67 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: I pulled the numbers on this, okay, because you're still 68 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: pretty dumbfast, and I'm trying to convince you that I 69 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: think you're faster than you think you are right now, right, 70 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: all right, So the seventy two yeard touchdown in Cincinnati, 71 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: your rookie year, the season finale, regular season finale, you 72 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: hit twenty one point to three miles per hour, Okay, 73 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: you're forty four yard or in Pittsburgh you hit twenty 74 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: point seven, so it's not as fast, right you were 75 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: one point one six mile prier difference. Can you feel 76 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: that like you can feel the being one mile per 77 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: hour slower? Yes, I can definitely feel it, like um, 78 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: because I just can't pull away from people like I 79 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: want to. Like usually on a round like that, I'm gone, 80 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: Like you know you've seen it, yeah right, yeah, you've 81 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: seen it. So whenever I got out there in the 82 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: open field, I started off good. I start off really good, 83 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: like I was like, oh yeah, I'm gone, And then 84 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: next thing you know, I kind of felt that that 85 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: fatigue in my knee, Like as far as like long 86 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: speed wise, you know, quickness and things like that. If 87 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: I was to play in a thirty yard box, I 88 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: would be you know what I'm saying, because I had 89 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: my quickness and things like that. But once I get 90 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: into the open field, whenever, that's the last little bit 91 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: I gotta get back to make me me again, you know, 92 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: because that's what that's what made me. I could take 93 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: it eight seventy. It was seventy. Yeah, I don't do 94 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: that well. I mean I think like a lot of 95 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: things make you. You You write, and like we're seeing that 96 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: even since you've come back, like you're like I've said 97 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: several times on the podcast, I'm like, that's a professional runner. 98 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: Like that is a professional running back. Like all the 99 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: little things that going to do in the job, well, 100 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: like you see that when you're back on the field 101 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: and it's like wow, like that's you know, the patients, 102 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: finding the right the right lanes, all that stuff, setting 103 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: up your blocks, all that stuff. Like it almost to 104 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: my eye, looks like you're doing those little things, seeing 105 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: the game better and getting the right lanes. Then you 106 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: were even as a rookie, where like I sense like 107 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: you every time you got the ball because you were 108 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: like so you wanted to make plays all the time. 109 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: You were like, I get the ball, I'm going hunters 110 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: four out of the gate. Like now your patients you're cutting. 111 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: It seems like you're The mental side of being a 112 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: running back is better now than it was then. Yeah. 113 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: I definitely more more mature as a runner, you know. 114 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: And then a lot of that has to do because 115 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: my rookie year, I didn't know I was gonna get 116 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: the ball one time or ten times, you know, so 117 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: I was kind of pricing a little bit. But it 118 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: was still there. My patients and stuff was still there 119 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: because that's just how I run the ball and stuff. 120 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: But like you said, that now more mature as a runner, 121 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: and it's it's definitely helping, you know. And I got 122 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: to be more mature because right now I don't have 123 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: my long speed and stuff like that, so I have 124 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: to really dig into the details to to be great. Interesting, 125 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, when you have that long speed 126 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: kind of taken away. It's what I'm hearing you say 127 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: is it's sort of like, well you need to be 128 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: even better at like the patients. Like there's so many 129 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: runs right now, like whereas like Morgan Moses pulling and 130 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: bend powers pulling or eiler pulling, and you're just kind 131 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: of like almost dancing a little bit back there, and 132 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: then boom, you hit the whole and you go for eight, 133 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, like and you're just kind of setting things 134 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: up and and like I didn't see that as much 135 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: in your rookie year to to Mike point like, is 136 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: that at patients in that vision like something that you 137 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: feel like has elevated. Yeah, yes, uh yeah, definitely. You know, 138 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: just getting used to the NFL game, you know, um 139 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: all that stuff, you know, time and you know, just 140 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: getting chemistry on my lineman and things like that. It's 141 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: just you can see it, you know, and um the 142 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: linemen are blacking really well too, the blocking outstanding, you know, 143 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: and um, I appreciate those guys. So it's been it's 144 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: been fun. You know, I'm gonna keep getting better though, 145 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: I know. Yeah. Well, it's it's like you know, with 146 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: the with this offensive line, like there, you're one of 147 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: the running backs that always does a good job of 148 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: giving credit to the guys up front, Like that's one 149 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: of the things that you often do. Every everybody does, 150 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: but j K Mixture he goes out of his way, 151 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: and you're smart smart man for that. And with that said, 152 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: like it it seems like this offensive line I think 153 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: is the strength of this team with the way they're blocking, 154 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: the way you and Gusts are running. Do you guys 155 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, the ground game is like this is 156 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: our recipe going. It almost feels unstoppable, Like does it 157 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: feel like two hundred plush yards and a hundred eight? 158 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: And I think like the last three games, so like 159 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: you're right around two hundred yards the last three games. 160 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't know who's stopping this running 161 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: attack me either, you know, And hopefully we keep doing 162 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: it and keep leaning on us, you know, in the 163 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: run game, and um it just whatever, you know, whatever 164 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: the coach calls, We'll try to make the best of it. Yeah. So, 165 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: so I want to go back You've been really transparent 166 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: about the knee injury and the how difficult it was 167 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: to come back from that, And I want to go 168 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: back to you know, when it happened in Washington in 169 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: the preseason game and you're on the car and I 170 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: just I like, I saw the I just saw a 171 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: photo of you on the car, like and you're like this, 172 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: and I was. I just saw yesterday and I was like, 173 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: what was going through j K's mind in that moment? Okay, 174 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. What was going through my mind? It 175 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: was I just got hurt in the last preseason game 176 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: against not even the starters for the other team. Just 177 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: think if I would have ever been out there, right, 178 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: it would have been a lot better that last year. 179 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: We would have been better as a team, for sure. 180 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: Just think about that. I would have been better as 181 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: a running right now, you know, because would have an 182 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: extra year, I would have my strength still, I would 183 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: maybe be even faster, bigger because I didn't have an 184 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: off season the best of all season. So it really 185 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: it was the hardest year of my life. Not not 186 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: the hardest year of my life, It was one of 187 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: the hardest years, you know, because it was just tough, Like, um, 188 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: you got everything in front of you and then next 189 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: thing you know, you hurt in a meaningless game. How 190 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: what was the first step, you know, like, obviously you 191 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: had to get surgery, and can you take me through 192 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: kind of the rehab and how that all went about. Yeah, 193 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: so the first step was like getting over the fact 194 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: that I got hurt in the preseason, you know, and 195 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: then like the rehab process I had. I never had 196 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: a knee injury before, and I got like the worst 197 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: one that you could possibly get up, pretty much tore 198 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: my whole knee off, you know. So the first step, 199 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: the way you said that it was the first step 200 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: was lifting my leg up. Like almost the first time 201 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: I lifted my leg up, I was trying so hard 202 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: to lift it up. It was the first week after surgery. 203 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 1: Almost passed out because I was straining so hard my 204 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: leg just to lift it up like that, you know. 205 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: And so that was tough and everything, every little step 206 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: I had to take it and cherish it because it 207 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: was hard. It was. It's still hard and still dealing 208 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: with it today, you know. And I told my hamstring 209 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't been I couldn't bend my leg, 210 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, because my hamstring was off. So I had 211 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: to build that back up. And it was just then 212 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: it was the walking thing, like like like I started, 213 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: I think I started walking, you know, with a cane, 214 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: and like six weeks maybe maybe it was six weeks 215 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: or something like that, but it was still terrible to walk. 216 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: It was not the same you're walking. Yeah, it was. 217 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: It was a very humbling experience, you know, but yeah, 218 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm fighting through it. Yeah yeah, So as you're as 219 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: you're going through that, what did you do to like 220 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: have support? Was it family? Was it? I've heard other 221 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: players talk when they're hurt about how they don't like 222 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: being around the facility because it's like you're used to 223 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: being the guy that's like in the locker room and 224 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: have a good time and laughing and making plays on 225 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: the field. That like it's kind of difficult to see 226 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: all that still happening, but like you're not part of 227 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: it in the same way. So how did you handle 228 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: that and where did you go for support? Yeah, definitely 229 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: was like being here, like I didn't I did my 230 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: rehab in l A. So whenever I did come back though, 231 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: and I got to hang out with my teammates in 232 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: the locker room and in the training room, it was 233 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: definitely hard, you know, because it was it was just tough. 234 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: It's like, dang, I wish I could just looking at 235 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: everybody walking and almost like damn, I wish I could 236 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: walk like that, you know, I wish I was out 237 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: there with him. I wish I was you know, playing 238 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: or you know, things like that. It was tough, you know, 239 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: but I definitely know my my family, they were always there, 240 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: you know. I did everything to help me get back 241 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: to where I am now, you know. So it's been 242 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: it's been a great ride. Or like, I'm very grateful 243 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: for the for the ups and down. So I'm I'm 244 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: glad it's happened to me, you know, even though I'm not. 245 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: I wish it could have happened in in the practice 246 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: or in the game, a regular season game, you know. 247 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: That's the only thing, the only difference that I hate 248 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: that it happened in the preseason game because it was 249 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: it was not cool to do that. But I am 250 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: grateful for the whole process though, because like without the process, 251 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: I don't become a better man or a better player, 252 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: you know. So I'm grateful for everything, though, Yeah, can 253 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: you take me inside. Is there one moment during the 254 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: rehab that was the darkest, that was the hardest? What 255 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: was that moment? But one moment? It was a lot 256 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: of moments. I couldn't give you one moment that was 257 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: like the darkest, but like it's just like some nights 258 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: you just I was thinking, like, am I going to 259 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: be back. Am I Am I ever gonna be good again? 260 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: You know? Even even this year, like when I started 261 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: playing again in the first with three or four games 262 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: that I played in, it was like is this the 263 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: new me? Like is it is this? It? Like, am 264 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: I going to be bad? And like am I done? 265 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: You know? So it was it was tough. It was 266 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: nice like that all the time. And it was nice 267 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: where I was just like, man, I was I could walk, 268 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't shower, like I had to sit 269 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: in the chair, and even sitting in the chair hurt 270 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: because I had so much stuff done on my knee, 271 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: so it was hurting where I was showering. Yeah, it 272 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: was tough. It was tough. So it was it was 273 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: a dark moment. But so when you get back and 274 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: you have that game against Pittsburgh and you have a 275 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: big run and you go for one twenty and you 276 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: get the scope done and you can feel just so 277 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: much mobility in your knee again and like you start 278 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: to feel like, okay, like there is a light at 279 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: the end of the tunnel. What was that like, you know, 280 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: considering all those moments that you had gone through. Yeah, 281 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: it was definitely it was definitely. Uh, it was good 282 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: to happen. You know. It was good for my mental 283 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: you know, even though like me, I'm a guy that's 284 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: never satisfied, So it was good to do that. But 285 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: I feel like, dang, I got called. Like that was 286 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: what I was thinking about the whole time, Like even 287 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: after the game, was like I got called and I 288 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: wasn't worried about the yards and things like that. I 289 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: was like, man, I got called. I gotta fix this. 290 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: So the like the next practice, I'm running sprints in 291 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: between periods, you know, trying to work on it and 292 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: get better. And so that's just the type of person 293 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: I am. Well, that's that's the thing about you, is 294 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: like I tell people all the time, like look, when 295 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: you're going through the Angel like j K wants to play, 296 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: like he wants to be out there. Like this dude 297 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: is working as hard as you could have possibly imagined, 298 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: like he loves football like and that you're the way 299 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: that you attacked your rehab process stood out to me. 300 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: And like one Store and the Ravens kind of held 301 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: you back at times. And like one story that really 302 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: stands out was the day at training camp when you're 303 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: on the puplist. Okay, so you're on the pup list 304 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: and you come out to training camp and uniform. You 305 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: weren't practicing at this and and you're basically letting anybody 306 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: know Eric da Costa coach horrible, anybody, anybody within earshot 307 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: take me off the publist. A few other words that 308 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: were mixed in there. Um, tell me about that day. 309 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: That was definitely an immature moment by me, But that's 310 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: just me, Like I hate sitting out. I thought I 311 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: took it as like you wanted to play, Like to me, 312 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: that showed your passion and how much like you love 313 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: football and how badly you wanted to be back. Yeah, 314 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: so that's the thing about me, Like sometimes my passion 315 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: can be seen as something you know, harmful or you know, 316 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: detrimental to me, but like it's just me, Like I can't. 317 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: I can't fix my passion, right, I can't sometimes and 318 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: sometimes like never, like in college I did miss a 319 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: game or a practice, you know, high school, I missed 320 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: my senior year, but I never missed a game in 321 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: college or a practice. And then even my rookie year, 322 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: I never missed a game or a practice. So it 323 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: was like I've never been hurt like that before, so 324 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: missing that time like I never had to miss the 325 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: whole season, and then on the back end another part 326 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: of the next season after that. So I was like, Nah, 327 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: this is not gonna work for me, This is not 328 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: gonna work for me, Like I need to be out there, 329 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: like because I just love to play the game, like 330 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: it's it's a part of me, like um, like I 331 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: just love playing a game and just being out there 332 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: working having fun, you know. So that was tough because 333 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I'm missing another part of another 334 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: season from this knee injury that happened in the preseason. 335 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: So that's why I was at I was like that, 336 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, and then I thought I could go. Like 337 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: I thought it was me, like I didn't know, like 338 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: I just didn't know about the knee. I didn't know 339 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: how it worked. It was like it was just tough. 340 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: It was tough for me mentally, you know, but the 341 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: passion never left and and that like me, I worked hard, 342 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: worked really hard. So I thought my work, that work 343 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: ethic could just push me past the knee thing in 344 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: the body. But nah, and they knew what was right. 345 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: So I applied, like the whole organizations from saving me 346 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: from me, you know, from making me look making myself 347 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: look bad, you know, right, Well, I I get back 348 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: to you, and you mentioned this to your senior year 349 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: of high school. You know you're going into that year 350 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: you're like the player to watch in Texas, you know, 351 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: all eyes on you first carry, first game of senior year, 352 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: break your ankle, tear, multiple ligments, You're none for the year. 353 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: And that had to be really brutal. And I remember 354 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: to talk to your high school football coach, was like, Jake, 355 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: like you were trying to convince your mom to come 356 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: back for the playoffs after a broken ankle, and like, 357 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: and he was like, if j K j K would 358 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: give up anything, he would have given up anything to 359 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: play one more snap at lagrange. And and like that 360 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: passion I think that you showed in high school coming back, 361 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: you know, it is the same passion that we saw 362 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: coming back this time. Yeah, it's me. It's legit me, 363 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: Like I'm never going to change, right, don't. I don't 364 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: like you could do anything. I'm never going to change 365 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: it just part of me, if it's part of who 366 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: I am, you know, and probably part of it probably 367 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: comes from me losing my dask so young, I had 368 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: to grow up. So it made me that person the 369 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: way I am, and I can never get rid of 370 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: that person. But as me, Yeah, do you feel like 371 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: now that you've seen what you can do post scope 372 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: and and like you said, you're gonna get stronger, you 373 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: know after the season, in the off season going next year, 374 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: I have the doubts in your head of will I 375 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: ever be that j K that I am myself being? 376 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: Have those erased? Yes, that's your race. Like I know, 377 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: after this offseason, everyone's gonna have to look out. If 378 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: I don't play in a preseason game and get hurt again, 379 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: I have a feeling you won't. Everyone's gonna have to 380 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: look out right right, and I think everyone's gonna have 381 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: to look out the rest of this way to yes, 382 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: even I mean I'm not turning the patient down here. 383 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: I mean you could you could like kind to the 384 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: point of the running game being the engine right now, 385 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean down the playoffs stretch, it might 386 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: be like j K. Dobbins, let's go to like leading 387 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: us on this stretch. Like that's that's gotta be pretty 388 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: exciting to think about that possibility for you. Yeah, it's 389 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: it's exciting, but taking it one day at a time 390 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: and whatever the coaches whenever they, you know, call my number, 391 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: just to be ready. What's the thun going into the 392 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: Steelers game? Had a big game against them last time. 393 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: What's the mentality going into this one. I'm just gonna 394 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: try to be better than I was last game, try 395 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: to help his team win. I think we got a 396 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: few hundred yard games than j K's future this year. 397 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: Well it's two hundred. He already said. He was like, 398 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: not now, one of these games, I'm gonna go down. 399 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm on board with two hundred plush our game and 400 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah, put it, put it down. Yeah, thanks 401 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: so much, appreciate it, Thank you well. Great stuff from JK. 402 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: As we continue the conversation here, we want our listeners 403 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: to know that the sports landscape is always changing and 404 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: this week is no different. DraftKings is a leader in 405 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: daily fantasy sports, and it still has daily fantasy contest 406 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: running for those who are looking to have skin in 407 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: the game. It's simple. 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Like it's easy 418 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: to you know, fall in love with j K. You know, 419 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm kicking myself because I you know, I've been watching 420 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: j K for a long time at High State and 421 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: meant to ask him about his take on the college 422 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: football playoff this weekend High State Georgia college Football Playoff. 423 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: I bet he would have said Ohio State's gonna win, 424 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: and thank you. I think he would. I'm gonna guess 425 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: you're right, but no, Like, here's the thing, and I 426 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: like when watching him at Ohio State, he had that 427 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: game breaking ability from the time he was a freshman 428 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: like he was he came in and he was making 429 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: places as a freshman. He was like, oh, this guy 430 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 1: is the next grade Ohio State running back. And then 431 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: he lived up to that, and I think that, like 432 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: he's just always been a player, and I think that's 433 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: why it's tough for him to not have that top 434 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: end speed right now. It's like when he sees green grass. 435 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: His entire life, it's been households, and so now that 436 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: he's not there quite yet, I think it's difficult. But 437 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: I think he's on his way. I mean, I'm just 438 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: really encouraged. Why everything that I'm seeing from him, I 439 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: think that's like, you know, his ability to kind of 440 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: work on the It's like, you know, he worked basically 441 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: on a short game. You know, it's like he worked 442 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: around the screen and he has the vision and he's 443 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: reading defenses, and he knows how to have patience and 444 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: he k knows when to hit the whole And I 445 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: think that that is going to take his game to 446 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: another level. And then once that spee comes back, he 447 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: knows how to run, like he knows how to break 448 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: things open once he's in the open field. So I'm 449 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: just really encouraged by hearing from him that he feels 450 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: like the doubts, you know, I felt bad for him 451 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: just on a personal level. I think, oh gosh, heartbreaking. Yeah, 452 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: I think everybody in the organization. Everybody felt really bad 453 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: for him. I mean, I drafted the guy on every 454 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: single one of my fancy teams last year. He was 455 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: gonna have a monster season. He was gonna have a 456 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: I was like a million times convinced that he was 457 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: going to have a monster sophomore season. And Uh, to 458 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: see that all dashed, you know, right before the season starts, 459 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: was a tough pill to swallow. And I just think 460 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: that I'm happy that he's going to get a chance 461 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: to you know that he basically has gotten back to 462 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,120 Speaker 1: this point, um, and I think that as I sold him, 463 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: I think he's going to have a He is going 464 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: to be a huge piece of this team's success. Slice 465 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: if the Ravens go on a run, Okay, if the Ravens, 466 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: if we're sitting here talking about the Ravens in the 467 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: n f C Championship or the Super Bowl, we're gonna 468 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: be talking about j K. Dobbins rushing for a hundred 469 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: yards every game. I really think that. I mean, I 470 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: don't think it has to be that, but I think 471 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 1: we're absolutely going to be talking about him being a 472 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: star as Gus rush for hun exactly. That's what I'm saying, 473 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: like if each of them rushed for night, like, you know, 474 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: that's pretty darn good eighty whatever, and Lamar puts up 475 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: fifty sixty, that's pretty darn good rushing attack. Like, but yes, 476 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: I absolutely think that like as j K only gets stronger, Like, 477 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: you know, I think all Ravens fans are looking at 478 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: team right now and saying, how can we get to 479 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: the super Bowl? Like, and you know they're not scoring 480 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: many points right now, and but you never know what's 481 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: gonna get you hot. I mean the most important piece 482 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: of that is Lamar's return, right, and if if the 483 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: Ravens are gonna make it's the super Bowl that I 484 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: think it means Lamar comes back and Lamar plays really 485 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: well in this offense catches fire a little bit, you know, 486 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: And a big piece of the offense catching fire and 487 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: getting better is also j K. Dobbins being cut the 488 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: leader in in some regard. Uh in that way, Yeah, 489 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: no doubt. So I'm I'm optimistic about him and both 490 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: short term and long term. So you know, big game 491 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: this week against the Steelers. Um, all of a sudden, 492 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: the Steelers, I think everyone has kind have been like 493 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: a Steelers gonna miss the playoffs. They're gonna finish the 494 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: losing record. The Ravens have a chance to guarantee that 495 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: they had their first losing record under Mike Tomas hasn't happened. 496 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: That this is an opportunity to the Ravens win this week, 497 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: then the Steelers have a losing record and their playoff 498 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: hopes are done. I don't I don't think that the 499 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: Ravens are really thinking about that. I don't think they 500 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: are really being like, of course we want to make 501 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: sure tom One has his first losing season. They don't 502 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: care about that. They just always want to be the Steelers. Well, 503 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: they also want to win the division. And yes, so 504 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: the best first and foremost is like I mean, the 505 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: Ravens don't necessarily just lay it all out there, you know, 506 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: the Ravens don't necessarily have to beat the Steelers. Still 507 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: when the division. If the Ravens lose and the Bengals lose, 508 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: the Bengals play the Bills this week, Monday Night on 509 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, Right, So going into the game, the Ravens, 510 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: we have to win because we don't know what's gonna 511 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: happen with the Bengals. Um if both teams are to lose, 512 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: then the NFC North title will still be determined in 513 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: Cincinnati in the regular season finale. But like we just 514 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: and the Bengals win, then it's done. Then it's done exactly. 515 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: So you gotta handle your business and and then hope 516 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: that you still have a shot. If they do handle 517 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: their business, they will have a shot. The other thing 518 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: to just to get kind of in the weeds of 519 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: playoffs seating, Like you've seen some fans out there to say, like, 520 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: you know what, I kind of want the five, you know, 521 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: I kind of like the matchup against the Tennessee or Jacksonville. 522 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: You finishes the wild card, you go on the road, 523 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: but you play one of those teams versus playing at 524 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: home as the three and then welcoming Miami or the 525 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: Chargers or the Bengals to town. Okay, well, I understand 526 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: that I get elements of that, but it's not a 527 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: guarantee that the Ravens would end up as a five. 528 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: You know, the Chargers potentially could. If the Ravens lose. 529 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: I think if they end up tied with the Chargers, 530 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: the Charges are one game behind the Ravens right now, 531 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: then the Chargers would win the tiebreaker and get the 532 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: high higher seeds. So if the Ravens lose one of 533 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: these last two games and the Chargers don't and they 534 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: have I think who do they have? Yeah, they not 535 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: MS and the Broncos and the Rams exactly, and so 536 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: like they'll be favored him to win both those games. Yeah, 537 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: And so it's all I'm saying. You know, now, if 538 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: Jenna is a sixth seed, you're playing the Bengals on 539 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, Gosh, that'd be crazy back to back weeks 540 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: or whatever. The Bills are the Chiefs potentially, Um So yeah, 541 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 1: I just think don't like that scenario. Yeah. I like 542 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: winning out Yeah, Yeah, Like I just think it's always 543 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: it's always like easy, like with a month left of 544 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: the season to like project out the rest of the 545 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: way and be like, Okay, this is we're gonna play 546 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: like I'd rather Tennessee. That's whatever we're saying. Okay, well, 547 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: like you know now why Jacksonville actually Okay, now it 548 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: might be tending the Bengals, like it's easy to play 549 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: things out with them. What I've been saying, it's like 550 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll see when we get there kind 551 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: of thing. Yeah, exactly. So in terms of this week's game, Um, look, 552 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: I think the this is gonna be my expectation, classic 553 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: Ravens Steelers hard funk game. Probably decided by three points 554 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: or less. Probably that's the that's fourteen. The last time 555 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: these two teams played, the Steelers moved the ball like 556 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: they had some success moving the ball. What the Ravens 557 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: did well was opportunity to turnovers. Now, the big difference 558 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: this week will be that, you know, Kenny Pickett was 559 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: knocked out of that game early with a concussion. You know, 560 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: he's playing well, just led him to a comeback win 561 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: against the Raiders. So you know, I think their offense 562 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: is feeling pretty confident right now coming into this game. 563 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: Pickets playing You know, how will the Ravens with a 564 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: full game against rookie, how will this defense fair? Mr 565 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: r Whisky was playing pretty well outside of the picks. 566 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: Yeah that's a big you know, but they're three interceptions. 567 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: But like he was slinging the ball around. You know, 568 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: do the Ravens uh this Strabisky or not pick it? 569 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: You know, throw it as much as as Strubisky was. Um, yeah, 570 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: I think it'll be really interesting both teams feeling good. 571 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a tight type battle, I think. And then, 572 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: of course, the big question that everyone wants to know 573 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 1: is lamar Jack's gonna say, We'll see. We'll see how 574 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: the how practice goes over the course of this week, 575 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: and that's probably gonna be a question mark. We're taking 576 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: this Wednesday before practice, so we're not sure if he's 577 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: out there for practice yet today, So I don't know, 578 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: we'll see. What I do know is that J. K. 579 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: Dobbins is going to be a future part of it. 580 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: So is the gust Bus. And I think the Ravens 581 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: will continue to lean heavily upon this rushing attack. Yeah, 582 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: as always, you can email us with the lounge at 583 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: Ravens dot NFL dot net, send us your questions, your thoughts, 584 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: and we look forward to this game against the Steelers. Yeah, 585 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: get ready for the