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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Drive. I'm

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Speaker 1: Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson and Matt um Rick Goslin.

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Speaker 1: Uh used to be at the Dallas Morning News Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Star. Now works for the Talk of Fame Network

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Speaker 1: for US Sports Illustrated, and he undertook a little thing

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Speaker 1: here where he little thing a little thing. We had

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Speaker 1: him on the show with us the other night when

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Speaker 1: we wrapped up the uh the schedule. Um he did

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Speaker 1: he went through and looked at every NFL pick and

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Speaker 1: draft slow and figured out who was the best pick

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Speaker 1: of all time at that draft slot. This is going

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Speaker 1: back many years to many draft classes and many picks,

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Speaker 1: many picks. Is a monster project. And so I thought

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Speaker 1: we would go through this and look, it's obviously the

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Speaker 1: Steelers are very well represented here. It's just some interesting

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Speaker 1: picks here. Uh So let's dive right into this. His

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Speaker 1: his his number one, number one overall pick, Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, I mean, I have to think about it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a big project. It's i mean,

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Speaker 1: he's the top five quarterback ever, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it's pretty hard to argue, I suppose. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some other strong candidates, but that's pretty big.

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Speaker 1: By the way, he picked two fifty nine slots on

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Speaker 1: this the Packers led the way with twenties. Draft selections

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Speaker 1: of Steelers were second with eighteen. Just to give you

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Speaker 1: some someding is important. Number two overall pick Lawrence Taylor.

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Speaker 1: I think he's the best defensive player ever, So maybe

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Speaker 1: five guys could have beat him out. Maybe. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure who I would would have had an LT.

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Speaker 1: And the number two spots always, that's a tough one.

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Speaker 1: It is really of the last twenty years. If you

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Speaker 1: go back and look at the number two spots in

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Speaker 1: the draft, they're a little disappointing. You know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of times it's the second quarterback, you know, and that's

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Speaker 1: not always. And this year's a good example. You know,

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Speaker 1: we all look at Wilson be like, yeah, he's okay.

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Speaker 1: You know, number three, Dick Buckus, I don't have it

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Speaker 1: in front of me, but I think Barry Sanders was

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Speaker 1: in that spot, and there was a couple that were.

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Speaker 1: When I retweeted this tweet, some people wrote back, you know,

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Speaker 1: Buckets was one they didn't quite approve of, but remember

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Speaker 1: what he's this guy wasn't unbelieved Buckets was drafted in

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Speaker 1: sixty five. Was in that drafty he was the fourth pick. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: he was on the NFL's yeah, hundred hundredth Anniversary team,

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Speaker 1: two time All Decade Team player, so he made it

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Speaker 1: for the sixties and the seventies, correct me if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 1: but before were lt I kind of feel like he

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Speaker 1: was considered the best defensive career takeaways. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: big deal, Like that's pretty throw the same. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a that's a pretty Yeah. Number four. The first Steeler

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Speaker 1: on the list Joe Green in nineteen sixty nine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I forget some of the other names, but we

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Speaker 1: were interviewing Rick and we brought up this pick. Walter

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Speaker 1: Payton was one of them. Yeah, I mean he took

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Speaker 1: Joe Green over two or three, not Hall of famers,

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Speaker 1: but all. And he said he did that because Green

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Speaker 1: was a franchise changer. And yeah, I do believe he's

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Speaker 1: the greatest Steeler player ever. Number five Dion Sanders. I

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Speaker 1: know he's not the most popular around here. When I

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Speaker 1: was a kid, or you know, old enough to know football,

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Speaker 1: Deon's overrated Woods and so much better. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: who's better or worse, but I don't care if Dion

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Speaker 1: doesn't tackle. I mean that guy matched up one on

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Speaker 1: one against Michael Irvin and Jerry Rice AllGame career touchdowns

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Speaker 1: on returns. Yeah, uh wow. Number six Jim Brown and

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Speaker 1: hard to start to go wrong there. He's numbering back

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Speaker 1: on your list. Don't you think all time he's mine?

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Speaker 1: I just think he was so much different than everybody

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Speaker 1: else in his time. People forget his linemen were his size,

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Speaker 1: you know, like that's like the fastest guy in the

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Speaker 1: field being pounds today. You know. Number seven Adrian Peterson. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I forget how we had this conversation with Rick too.

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Speaker 1: He was a little torn on this one because he's

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Speaker 1: not yet in the Hall of Fame. One of his

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Speaker 1: starting part of his process was started with the Hall

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Speaker 1: of famers. Peterson's Peterson's gonna He's got fourteen He's almost

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Speaker 1: fifteen thousand career rushing yards. I did a top ten

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Speaker 1: running back of all the lists, all time lists, like

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Speaker 1: two or three years ago, and Peterson's stock hasn't changed,

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Speaker 1: but he was like eight or nine for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean number eight Ronnie Lott one, I mean, maybe

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Speaker 1: pretty strong. Number nine Lance all Worth with San Diego

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Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty two. I said this to my fourteen

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Speaker 1: year old son. He's like nine, Like this guy was,

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Speaker 1: you know, the star of the a f L. And

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Speaker 1: you know he was putting a thousand yards seasons when

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Speaker 1: nobody else was putting up thousand yards deep threat when

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Speaker 1: that wasn't really a thing yet. Number ten, our second Steeler,

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Speaker 1: Rod Woodson seven brought him up. I've been pretty darn good. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: seventy one career interceptions. Number eleven, our second Brown, Paul Warfield.

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Speaker 1: That was on sixty four. He was on the Brown

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Speaker 1: staff with me. It was a scout and legend obviously,

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Speaker 1: Ohios Dave Brown's He was on the perfect Dolphins team too,

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Speaker 1: from what I remember, one of only six players in

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Speaker 1: his career. Yeah, he was on Olympic sprinter. Yeah. Number twelve.

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Speaker 1: Herb Adderley cornerback, Green Bay, nineteen sixty one. People probably

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Speaker 1: don't know, but I mean it was one of the

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Speaker 1: foundations of those awesome interceptions when they threw the ball

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Speaker 1: about twenty times a game. Number thirteen Tony Gonzalez n

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Speaker 1: a hard time. Are you going with that too? I

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Speaker 1: think Gronk has the better I think Gronk is the

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Speaker 1: better player, but Gonzalez had all the tight end records,

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Speaker 1: and I think it is the second greatest tight end ever.

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Speaker 1: Number fourteen Geno Marcetti defensive end, Baltimore Colts, nineteen fifty two.

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Speaker 1: The other one of my son's like, you gotta better

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Speaker 1: than that. I'm like, dude, the Colts. You remember the

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Speaker 1: nameth Um Super Bowl three? You know that was such

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Speaker 1: an upset because the guys like Marchetti and Marchetti where

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Speaker 1: they were the foundation of an awesome Colts team is

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Speaker 1: the Stata cent of Super Bowls. Yet when they were

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Speaker 1: at their prime, who won two championships. Number fifteen Alan

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Speaker 1: Page nineteen sixty seven. He's a phenomenal player, and I

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Speaker 1: think now he's a hundred and forty eight and a

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five. Pretty good. Hard to overlook that one.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen Emmett Smith, I mean, all time Russian leaders. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty hard to argument with. Eighteen Paul Krauss, Washington, nineteen

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Speaker 1: the all time NFL enter. Yeah, he's in all time

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Speaker 1: NFL interception leader. I thought he was not in for

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Speaker 1: some reason, but okay. Nineteen John Mackie nineteen sixty three

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Speaker 1: with the Colts way ahead of time in terms of

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Speaker 1: tight ends. He was twenty and a half years per

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Speaker 1: end running away from people. Number twenty Forrest Greg green

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Speaker 1: time to get in. There was a lot of buzz

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Speaker 1: that he's the best offensive lineman not in the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame, A guard, also a coach twenty one, Randy

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Speaker 1: moss In easily two. Ernie Stautner nineteen fifty. I don't

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Speaker 1: much to add to that, but he's just, I mean,

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Speaker 1: all time Steeler great that doesn't get talked about nearly

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Speaker 1: enough because he was pre seventies of Steelers pre seventies.

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Speaker 1: He also was the you know kind of some people

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Speaker 1: look at it like, well, he was the defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: so there was kind of like the Ralph Kiner. It

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Speaker 1: the final interview with Ernie Stautner that was ever done.

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Speaker 1: Did a thing when I was during the the anniversary

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Speaker 1: year of the Steelers. They look back at each decade

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Speaker 1: and now I got Ernie stout had to talk to me me.

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Speaker 1: He was the greatest Steeler up until the seventies, right,

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, well no doubt. Um twenty three this is

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Speaker 1: where we go a little more right here with I

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Speaker 1: don't agree with this Gray guy their heads. I would

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Speaker 1: have liked to see Rick and put in here just

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Speaker 1: missed that. I'll bet you I can find a better

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Speaker 1: Hall of famer, he's still upon six times a game.

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Speaker 1: What's he have a two yard per punt better average

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Speaker 1: hey enough for me man Twenty four Ed Reid, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: boyd Dowler Green Bay nine wide receiver. Yeah. I don't

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Speaker 1: know a ton about him. I mean I know he's

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Speaker 1: a crucial part of those win five championships. Has some hardware.

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Speaker 1: Twenty six Ray Lewis with the Ravens and ninety six

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Speaker 1: during good I mean their first draft was Ray Lewis

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Speaker 1: and Jonathan Ogden on the same first round. Twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: Dan Marino and eighty three steal the steal the draft

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Speaker 1: in a heavy quarterback class, new Derrick Brooks and with

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Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. He's a Hall of Famer. He's a great player.

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Speaker 1: Twenty nine Fran Tarkenton nineteen sixty one. I think he

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Speaker 1: went to four Super Bowls. Right, he was a he

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Speaker 1: there was a Vike and then a Giant and then

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Speaker 1: but but gets type. He wondered a few more years here,

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Speaker 1: if you know, if T. J. Watt continues on his

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Speaker 1: thirty one Curly Coulp with Kansas City in nineteen recent

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Speaker 1: eight career Saxes and those thirty two Drew Breeses. Pretty

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Speaker 1: good first pick in the second round or second pick

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Speaker 1: thirty he was not a first rounder, right. Thirty three

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Speaker 1: thirty four Jack Ham, it's a second round pick. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Thirty five Prishi na koy A. I mean the Nigerian nightmare.

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Speaker 1: You would think somebody. I mean, I don't not disputing it,

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Speaker 1: but that one doesn't blow me away as phenomenal player.

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Speaker 1: No brainer. This My next one might Ray nich KYT six,

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Speaker 1: another one of those throwback linebackers. He's got a lot

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Speaker 1: of hardware too. Yeah. Thirty seven is Norm van Brocklyn

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Speaker 1: with the Rams. Obviously well before our time, but you know,

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Speaker 1: big a couple of championships with an NFL MVP three

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Speaker 1: time passing champion. Thirty eight Mike Singletarry, Yeah, that's boy.

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Speaker 1: Those Bears linebackers are pretty strong on this list. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Thirty nine Jerry Kramer with the Bears. The Packers, I

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Speaker 1: should say in fifty great Packer offensive lineman forty Thurman Thomas.

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Speaker 1: time as a receiver. I often think of like him,

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Speaker 1: Roger Craig, even LaDainian, Tomlinson, Falk. They caught a lot

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Speaker 1: least forty one Andre Tippetto with the Patriots. I always

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Speaker 1: liked him growing up because he got overshadowed by LT

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Speaker 1: and Derrick Thomas a little bit, but most eros would

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Speaker 1: have been the best dad drusher around and his teams

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Speaker 1: weren't very good. Forty two is uh Bronkowski with the

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Speaker 1: Patriots ten forty three Sonny Jourgensen with the Eagles in

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Speaker 1: Fifty five Andrew Whitworth another another current player. I think

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Speaker 1: a Steve Tasker type pick twenty career of touchdowns on

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Speaker 1: Sixty seven Kenny Anderson seventy one, should be respect deserves yeah,

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Speaker 1: uh sixty eight Lance Brigg with the Bears in two thousands.

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Speaker 1: Larry Wilson, safety with the Cardinals in nineteen six. A

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Speaker 1: Hall of famer. Yah. Seventy five Russell Wilson. That's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty eight, easy Hall of Famer Steer fans

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Speaker 1: give that offensive line enough credit with Otto and Shell

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Speaker 1: this must have been an awful spot. Orlando Brown Jr.

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Speaker 1: be a pretty bad spot. Eighty four Bobby Mitchell with

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Speaker 1: head of his time too, is a do it all weapon.

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Speaker 1: Eighty five is another local guy, Joe Schmidt with the

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Speaker 1: Eighty six Morten Anderson in nineteen eighty two. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: about as good as he's the top three kicker in

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Speaker 1: my opinion. Eighty seven is Vick Washington, running back for

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Speaker 1: the forty niners in nineteen seventy. Must have been another

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Speaker 1: Green spot right, No, I guess it would eighty eight bullet,

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Speaker 1: Torell Owens six, Hall of Famer ninety, Antonio Freeman, Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: and everybody knows his resume around here. UH ninety three.

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Speaker 1: Charlie Joyner with Cincinnati in nineteen sixty nine. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: had a really good career even before the Foult's chargers

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Speaker 1: John Jefferson months a year. See this is the difference

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Speaker 1: in eras here. Okay, Hines Ward thousand career catches, twelve thousand,

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowls in his career, UH one, Lesson Hines Ward

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Speaker 1: seven fifty career catches, twelve thousand, one hundred forty six yards,

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Speaker 1: Joe Thiseman nineteen seventy one. He had a pretty darn

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Speaker 1: good career too, and number one or one hundred Mark

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Speaker 1: Bavarro in five. Yeah, let's roll through here to get

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Speaker 1: some other Steeler picks here. That's the top hundred one

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Speaker 1: oh two Johnny and Nitus nineteen fifty five with the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: People don't realize that probably should have hung on to him.

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Speaker 1: Number one oh four is Dwight White in nineteen seventy one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Hardy Nickerson's Hardy Nickerson's on there at one in nineteen

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Speaker 1: Webster at one in nineteen seventy four. That worked out. Okay, Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's two Steeler centers on the list. Um, it's funny

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Speaker 1: like Lambert didn't make it or Stalworth jar you know,

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Speaker 1: it just depends on where you fall on the thing.

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Speaker 1: On one fifty Greg Lloyd in seven, imagine getting him

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Speaker 1: with I'm not getting not going to go to the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, but five Pro Bowls, two time Steeler,

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Speaker 1: yeah injuries twenties. Yeah, he was even like yeah, they

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Speaker 1: always talked about moving him inside and he always that

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Speaker 1: Jeff Scannina. Yeah, that was my first that was my

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Speaker 1: first career, my first draft that I covered. Yeah, won

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl, twenty six career sacks. But it's a

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Speaker 1: Number one ninety George Atkinson eight you could you could

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Speaker 1: number one was Terrell Davis. That worked out, okay, is

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Speaker 1: obviously Tom Brady two hundred, Art Starr wow nty six

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Speaker 1: like a hall of famers. Yeah. Uh. Two oh two

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Speaker 1: Ernest Jackson, who of course played for the Steelers back

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Speaker 1: drafted him. Right. How about this one two oh three

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Speaker 1: Richard Dent m wow. Good again that that that area there, like,

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Speaker 1: there's some really good football players who are done in

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Speaker 1: the two hundreds. You can't count on getting those guys,

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Speaker 1: of course. Yeah, they're not throwaway picks. No, for sure, Um,

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Speaker 1: let's see here as we get through here, Um she

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Speaker 1: who else jumps out here? Andy Russell was number two

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Speaker 1: about probably the I don't know, uh, because there weren't

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Speaker 1: many teams, but you have more rounds, so he's probably

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Speaker 1: round maybe. And unfortunately for him, he came a little

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Speaker 1: too early. Yeah, he ended up with what two rings

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Speaker 1: as opposed to four, but I mean he was almost

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Speaker 1: him and Lambert's equal number two thirty eight in nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty nine. L C. Greenwood, that one worked out, okay,

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Speaker 1: him and Dwight White both and Joe Green three this

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Speaker 1: front four Yeah, number two forty two night, two thousand two.

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Speaker 1: Brett Kissel a nice showing up on the list. High quality. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: number two forty eight, two thousand twelve. Kelvin Beacham Wow,

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Speaker 1: still playing, still playing right. Started fifteen career starts as

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Speaker 1: two pick. He was a compensatory pick. I remember there

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Speaker 1: was some story. Okay, yeah, they lost to get that pick,

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Speaker 1: or there was some story about that. That's that's that pick.

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Speaker 1: They then turned into James Conner when beat him left,

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Speaker 1: beat him left right? Uh, Don mccowski in two Man

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Speaker 1: number two fifty nine, Jim Turner Kicker Washington ninety three.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with finishing with, but that's finishing with a bed.

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Speaker 1: Mr irrelevance. Not so great, not so great. Interesting list

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Speaker 1: there that Rick Goslin put together that. Yeah he said

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Speaker 1: it took him eater nine days to put that whole

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Speaker 1: thing together. Really good stuff there from him, and the

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Speaker 1: interesting so many Steelers, some guys have played for the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: not like every five years. To him, he should just

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Speaker 1: he should make a book out of that. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: start with that and then you know somebody like my

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Speaker 1: homes maybe he he's earned it. You know, the new

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Speaker 1: guys that will started earning their spots and knocking eyes off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting, that's for sure. Wouldn't mind doing going back

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Speaker 1: every ten years and taking a look at it even,

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Speaker 1: all right, I would like to see the runners up there,

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Speaker 1: especially for the first rounder and stuff like that too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for surely interesting. But that's gonna do it for our

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Speaker 1: show today. So for my partner Matt Williamson for Jacob

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Speaker 1: Rict here on site keeping us on the air, I'm Dale, Lolly.

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