1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: They Around the NFL podcast wants the NFL to change 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: the name of every holiday. 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL. My name 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: is Dan Hansis, and I have with me heroes virtually 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: across the Southland and beyond. Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. Happy 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: Day After Thanksgiving presented by the National Football League in 7 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: honor of John Madden. I don't think I have all 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: the wording right, but probably close enough. 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 3: Happy Thanksgiving Day After, presented by John Madden? Did did you? 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 3: Did you boys enjoy and enjoy the day? 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 4: Yes, had a great day. I noticed that the Black 12 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 4: Friday Jets Dolphins ad that they ran came very close 13 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 4: in tone and sort of authority to Dan's suggestion that 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 4: at some point will just be rolling games out on 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 4: Easter Sunday. They kind of like made it clear, are 16 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 4: we now own this day? 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: Right? 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: They got it, They got thanks They've always had Thanksgiving 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: and now they have Friday. And that's coming up in 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: a couple hours. We're gonna be watching that game and 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 2: we'll have the recap of that on the Sunday Show. 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: But for today, and it was a very nice Thanksgiving. 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: We host it every year at our house and it's 24 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: a friends giving, but you know the friends are very close, 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: so it's a like family. So it's a it's a 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: great holiday. And the one thing in the NFL really 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: has nailed about it, it is you know, you can't imagine 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving without football, and especially without that first game in 29 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: Detroit with the Lions. A game boys that we're gonna 30 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 2: get to first, we're gonna go in order that none 31 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: of us kind of expected to playing out this way, 32 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: and it kind of changed for me a lot of 33 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 2: my thoughts about the NFC underneath, you know, the big boys, 34 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: which I don't count the lines among At this point, 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: let's hit it. Twenty three fourteen Packers, three forty five 36 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: to go in the third, watch into the left, snap 37 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: to Love Loft the left side of the end, ton 38 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: kut touchdown, Christian Watson. 39 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, they make the Lions pay sixteen yard touchdown reception. 40 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: It's twenty nine to fourteen. Wayne Larravie with the call 41 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: for WR and W. 42 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: And you know, we thought we were gonna hear from 43 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 2: Wayne from Dan Miller of the Lions, because everything seems 44 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 2: set up for the Detroit Lions in this great revitalization 45 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 2: period to announce themselves as a dominant force and kick 46 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: butt on Thanksgiving. 47 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: But it went the other way. 48 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: The Packers win twenty nine to twenty two, and it 49 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: really wasn't that close things were. The tone was set 50 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: on a Jordan Love fifty three yard pass to Christian 51 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: Watson on the game's first play. 52 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: Greg, we talked about it on the Wednesday preview show. 53 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: They lead the league and explosives like that, and they 54 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: just kept taking it to the Lions. Greg, Lions team that, 55 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: on top of being flat flooded to start the game, 56 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: just killing themselves with the mistakes throughout the afternoon and 57 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: they could not put it together. 58 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: They couldn't. I mean, on some level, it starts with 59 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: Jared Goff, you know, turnovers for the second straight week. 60 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: But I really think it starts back in Week seven, 61 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: and that's when we saw the Lions play the Ravens, 62 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 3: and that was a game they were so comprehensibly destroyed 63 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: on every level. Did make you think, hmm, well you 64 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 3: can throw that out like a little bit, but let's 65 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: see how that goes. Since then, they've played four pretty 66 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: lackluster teams, five if you want to count the Packers, 67 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: although they're certainly playing better now, and they're the worst 68 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: defense or the second worst defense in the league, depending 69 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: on what metric you want to use. They all agree. 70 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: And that's a five week sample size. And that's against 71 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: some pretty good quarterbacks, you know, like Justin Herbert and 72 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: Lamar's in there. But it's also against the Raiders and 73 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: Jordan Love who is playing better and better every week, 74 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: but is not a top ten quarter back right now. 75 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: And all these guys are having career days against them. 76 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: And I'm with you, Dan, I think they can improve, 77 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: but right now, it's hard to see them in the 78 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: mix with the truly great NFC teams. 79 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 4: Hmmm, I don't know. I mean, I if we talk 80 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 4: about them as a playoff possibility, I think they're going 81 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 4: to test for that number seven spot. I think yesterday. 82 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm with you, Dan, and. 83 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 3: The Lions, you think are going to test for them? 84 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 4: I'm talking about I'm saying Green Bay absolutely now. 85 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm talking about the Lions at eight and three. 86 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not putting with. 87 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: No. 88 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 4: I think the Lions, like to me, like the good 89 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: to watch. How their their strength was was their offensive line, 90 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 4: and I thought that their offensive line was one of 91 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: the reasons that Jared Goff had been you know, pristine 92 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 4: going back to last season in many ways, and everything's 93 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: changed over the last couple of weeks, like three lost 94 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 4: fumbles yesterday, six turnovers over the last two weeks. So 95 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 4: lucky they got out of that Bears game with a win, 96 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 4: and it you know, in this division that seemed to 97 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 4: be essentially just kind of handed up to them. I'm 98 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 4: looking to my point before, I'm looking at Green Bay 99 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 4: and thinking, like, wait a minute, they're changing before our eyes. 100 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 4: Their quarterback is, their passing game is, and I look 101 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 4: at that game and like, I don't really remember Matt 102 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 4: Lfloor having a better performance as a coach. I think 103 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 4: no one expected that to happen the way it did. 104 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 4: He came in with a surprising game plan. They stomped 105 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 4: Detroit at home, doing what they do well now. And 106 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 4: it's a different Packers team than before because of their quarterback, 107 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 4: because they're young wide receivers and I'm not really sure 108 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 4: what the ceiling is for the Packers at this point. 109 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 4: It's like they're still kind of growing before our eyes. 110 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 4: But it's like they absolutely like I thought a week ago, oh, 111 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: the Vikings will take that number seven spot. I don't 112 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 4: know anything right now. Green Bay like is kind of 113 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 4: an unpredictable Well. 114 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 2: Listen, there's room for the Packers and the Vikings eblines 115 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: in the in the playoffs, and and the Vikings will 116 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: get their game on on Monday night to continue to 117 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: build for them. But yeah, I think I don't think 118 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: if the if Detroit had a more difficult schedule, if 119 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: they had Seattle schedule for exams, for instance, and we're 120 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 2: going to get to the Seahawks a little bit later, 121 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: I'd be very worried about a tailspin for this team, 122 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: because you've seen the golf and the offense really kind 123 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: of stumble, and this could be a slumper, it could 124 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: be the sign of an ugly come back to earth. 125 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: It's probably closer to a slump. 126 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: But the schedule is so soft that I think Detroit 127 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: is gonna be okay and get to that. You know, 128 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: eleven wins they you know, probably eleven, they feel to 129 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: me like eleven and six. That's gonna be enough, probably 130 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: to win the division. The Packers are now a team 131 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: of fascination for me because of love mostly, I mean, 132 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: and you're right about Lafleur, because you know, he was 133 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 2: taken on a lot of criticism early in the season, 134 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: and I think there was some like, you know, kind 135 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: of sideway glances like he was being exposed now without 136 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. But instead you look at this team now 137 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: as they have as we head toward the final stretch 138 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 2: after Thanksgiving, and he's got Jordan Love playing at a 139 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: high level. For the last few weeks, he was an 140 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: excellent quarterback and that's a huge benefit or a credit 141 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: to an offensive minded coach like Lafleur. So he has 142 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 2: the offense cooking. The big plays continue to be a 143 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: part of things. Christian Watson is coming out of his shell. 144 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have a big close to the 145 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: season now. And yeah, I like the Packers as a 146 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: team that can make the playoffs, and. 147 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: I would not have predicted that a couple of weeks ago. 148 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: Did we fork them? 149 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 4: I don't think we did. 150 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 3: Know, Okay, good, I have no recollection whatsoever of our 151 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: four community. They do have the Chiefs, you know, next week, 152 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: but after that all the games are winnable, and so 153 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: I'm with you. But even if they don't make the playoff, 154 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: whatever happens this season is somewhat about Jordan Love the 155 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: GM goota cunts. I think he said that. I don't 156 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: remember if that was that the bye week ORF, it 157 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: was after the bye week of Like, you know, this 158 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: is an important stretch here for Jordan Love. And I 159 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: think back to that Rams game, and I do think 160 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 3: that's when it all changed. I know that the box 161 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: score wasn't crazy in that game they won twenty to three, 162 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: but his decision making was really good. And then he 163 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: played well again the next week against the Steelers, and 164 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: I remember saying at the time of the show, I 165 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,239 Speaker 3: thought those are his best two games of the season 166 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 3: in a row. I know he had some nice touchdown 167 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: interception ratio early in the season, felt a little fluky, 168 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: felt a little fake to me, to be honest, Like 169 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: he had some nice throws, but it wasn't him doing 170 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: it in these last four weeks, and you saw it 171 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: yesterday was some next level quarterback stuff. He's a very 172 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: weird quarterback, but he passes the test where if he's protected, 173 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: he could obviously make some big plays. They cooked up 174 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: the Lions in play action. They attack their weaknesses deep 175 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: down the field, and they're not good deep down the field. 176 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: But the thing I like about him is you see 177 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: that side arm angle to Heath early in the game. 178 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: You saw the accuracy on the touchdown to read. But 179 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: if you kind of go through his snaps on a 180 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: snap to snap basis, he seems like a quarterback. Like 181 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: he seems like he's making decisions, he's recognizing blitz as 182 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 3: he's getting a second and third reads. I think he 183 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: makes some crazy throws and he's not the most accurate 184 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: quarterback in the world. So there's a little ups and downs, 185 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: But like the processing, the men mentality of it all 186 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: is like, Okay, this is a quarterback, and if if 187 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: he keeps building off this, if he plays like this 188 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: at all for the rest of the season, it's like, Okay, 189 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 3: we've got year two of Jordan Love in this very 190 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 3: affordable contract, and we at least know we're going into 191 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: year two with him still as our quarterback. 192 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, i'd also, you know, we on Thursday we noted 193 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 4: like the laundry list of injuries that the Packers had 194 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 4: coming into this game, and so a lot of that 195 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 4: play action happened without Aaron Jones in the lineup. And 196 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 4: like earlier on in the year, when Aaron Jones was 197 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 4: lost for a long stretch of time, like it really 198 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: handicapped and capsized the offense, and like yesterday that just 199 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 4: was not the case, like aj Dillon did just enough 200 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: for him. But the aggressive nature of what Lafleur has 201 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 4: loved doing, I think is very exciting for Packers fans 202 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 4: because I don't know about a month ago, I was like, 203 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 4: I don't know about this Jordan love thing. It's like, 204 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 4: we'll see, like he seems very middle of the road, 205 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 4: and there has been like tangible, visible growth and their 206 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 4: young wide receivers are growing along with him. The same 207 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,599 Speaker 4: way I felt about like the Steelers coming into the 208 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 4: year with all these like young weapons and I don't 209 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 4: think they're weapons at all. Happened across the board in 210 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh is how I feel about Green Bay now. So 211 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 4: it's like I thought yesterday was one of these games 212 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 4: like changed the way a lot of people feel about 213 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 4: two different teams. 214 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: On the other side, at the quarterback position, we've touched 215 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: on it briefly here, but I thought Gough was terrible 216 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: and he's coming off a multiple turnover game the week before, 217 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: but this time the ball security was woeful at riding 218 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: me of the late period with the rams. He was 219 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: missing throws as well. There were miscommunications with his wide receivers. 220 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 2: They couldn't get on the same page. He was an 221 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: issue for them in this game. And if GoF is 222 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: not going to be his pristine self he's been for 223 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: the majority of his career with Detroit, then the defense 224 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: is going to be what it is right now. That 225 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 2: is the recipe for a lot of losses. Here's Dan 226 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: Campbell on his team's sudden swoon again. 227 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 5: And the easy thing is to get in panic mode. 228 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 5: And I know you know what it looks like, and 229 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 5: it wasn't good enough out there, But I'm not paniced. 230 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 5: We got the right guys here. We know how to play. 231 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 5: We got to clean some things up and we'll have 232 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 5: six to go when we get back, and the fight's on, man. 233 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 5: I mean, I think there's gonna be some cruise control. 234 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 5: We're gonna have to fight and scratch and fight and 235 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 5: call for everything. Man. 236 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: We have to. 237 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 5: That's the type of team we are. That's where we're at. 238 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: All right, any other thoughts on this game? 239 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 4: Boys, I thought I thought we saw a little bit 240 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 4: from Jamison Williams, But I want to just note that 241 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 4: one of our listeners chimed in with something I'd mentioned 242 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 4: on the Thursday show about I thought, you know, various 243 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: matronly aunts around the country would take a look at 244 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 4: Sam laporter who had a nice start to the game. 245 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 4: Then the thing went sideways. But I don't know if 246 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 4: we have this. 247 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 3: Tweet, Eric, let's hear it out loud. 248 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 4: Okay, So another prophecy fulfilled. My aunt, well not matronly, 249 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 4: definitely took notice of Sam Laporta during the Lions game. 250 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 4: She's also not a football fan. They showed him and 251 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 4: golf in quick succession. So I verified and she even 252 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 4: parroted back Laporta's name. 253 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: Hmm. 254 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: It is a weird tweet. 255 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 4: It is a weird tweet, but I appreciate it. 256 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: Quiet storm. 257 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: I think everything about it is. 258 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 3: Ques whether this is this is like real or it's 259 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: a Mark shadow. 260 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: Or a Mark burner. Mark, did you write that? 261 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 3: I don't. 262 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: I don't even use uh like X myself much. 263 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: Less have about the truth. 264 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: No. 265 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 4: I just saw it this morning and it caught my 266 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: eye that, like you know, I I think it's just 267 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 4: matching it up on like the aunt archetype individual with 268 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 4: Sam Laparda. Laporta's like physical being. 269 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 3: He's a he's a he's a young, beefy young guy, 270 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: a young gronk. 271 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 2: Was your prediction that he was hot and would notice 272 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 2: I thought that he would have a massive game. 273 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 4: No, it was more that, like, you know, the aunt 274 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 4: who's not football like enthused, would be in the room 275 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 4: and just notice him the physical specimen. 276 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned the O line, like there's a weird 277 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 3: sort of almost analytics off about how good this old 278 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 3: line actually is, because like everyone thinks it's one of 279 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: the best lines in the league. It's certainly like, for instance, 280 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: grades as one of the elite lines in the league. 281 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: Pass rush win rate, run black win rate not so great. Certainly, 282 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: the eyeball test the last couple of weeks not so great. 283 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 3: And Jared Goff, more than any quarterback in the NFL, 284 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 3: is impacted by pressure and and just turns into a 285 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: totally different dude. So it's like, I don't know, They've 286 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: had a couple injuries and y Tie is not coming back. 287 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: I don't believe. And it's interesting because I think the 288 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: whole idea with Campbell was we're gonna be great on 289 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: the lines, and they're d line with Hutchinson and McNeil. 290 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 3: Even though those two players are both good, they're bad 291 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: and so now like they just don't get enough pressure 292 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 3: and their cornerbacks they're bad. That's a bad combo, not 293 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: enough pressure and bad cornerback. So on one side, you 294 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: got some issues. On the other side, if the O 295 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 3: line starts creaking, then you're right, Dan, But I'm not 296 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: panicking in both of these games. It's like, even in 297 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 3: a bad game, they still get like four hundred and 298 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 3: sixty four yards. They're gonna move the ball like I 299 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: know it was. 300 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: There was a garbage lipstick on the pig there late too. 301 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: Greg, absolutely, but they were moving the ball when they're 302 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: not turning it over seven times in the last two 303 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: weeks or whatever. All I'm saying is like they're going 304 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: to be getting first downs. They are a nasty running team. 305 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 3: I'm not too worried about them there, but the defense 306 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 3: is like legit bad. And if they're the home team 307 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 3: and they're it's all about it. We're a ways away 308 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: from the playoffs, but they are the team the five 309 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: or the six seed might want to be playing here 310 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: in the playoffs because you could put up a forty burger. 311 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: If I'm a Detroit fan. I'm I'm not letting it 312 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: be known. I'm a little bit nervous right now. 313 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 4: That's what ID degree, A little bit. 314 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: Analytics off. Greg. You said that sounds like the worst 315 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: time ever. 316 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: And by the way, I did last night watched the 317 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: Barry sanderstock on Amazon and reminded you of his greatness 318 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: and also the you know, the struggles of being a 319 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: Lions fan, especially from the perspective of Eminem, Jeff Bridges 320 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 2: and Tim Toole time Allen. Why does that document he 321 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: was always have to be back. We need to get 322 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: these celebrity sports fans. And it's like like Tim Allen 323 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: was in this documentary for like maybe two lines. 324 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: I watched the first hour maybe so far. I was 325 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 3: waiting for Walker to get back. On whatever night that was, 326 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: he went to the Lakers game with the front and 327 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: I did not see Tim Allen. I haven't gotten quite 328 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: to the end, but I thought when Jeff Bridges said 329 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: he identified with Barry. 330 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: That was incredible. 331 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: I loved it that Barry was just a man the life, 332 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: the juice. It's all from when the whistle blows to 333 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: when the whistle stops and anything other than that. He 334 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: doesn't need, Just like Jeff Bridges, there's a certain type 335 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: of actor when they call cut to when they call cut, 336 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: that's that's when it that's when it matters, and other than. 337 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: That, it's nothing. 338 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, parallel, it was kind of crazy to watch 339 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: Barry Sanders now and those those clips don't age at 340 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 3: all and you're like, oh, yeah, that would still be 341 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: by far the best run back in the league. 342 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: It's Sanders story, which I think I've shared on the show, 343 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: and I was hoping he was going to make it 344 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: into the dock, but nobody contacted me. Is when our 345 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: old boss, Justin Hathaway Mark worked us eighty hours for 346 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: that first Super Bowl in Indianapolis Giants Pats two, and 347 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: he had me cover the flag football a celebrity flag 348 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: football game, and Barry Sanders is on the game. It 349 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: was on one of the teams and was not involved 350 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: with the offense. They were running the offense through Maria 351 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: Minunos and Barry Sanders is there. Nobody's even talking to him, 352 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: and I'm like, that's like maybe the greatest running back 353 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: who ever lived. 354 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 4: That's an odd that's not approach to offense. It feels 355 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 4: like a chip Kelly invention. 356 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: All right, good stuff. 357 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: And the Packers, by the way, thank you Eric Roberts. 358 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: Seventeen players were on the injured list in that game 359 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: as well. They had no business going there and bullying 360 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: the lines in that spot. 361 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: So interesting. 362 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: All right, let's move to the middle game. And by 363 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: the way, we did fork the Panthers, Pats, Broncos, Bears, Cardinals, 364 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 2: and then I belatedly and my apologies, uh I forked 365 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: the Giants. 366 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: So those are the four teams. Maybe we'll revisit it 367 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: in the upcoming week. 368 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: Broncos, you know, making a sweat a. 369 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: Little bit, a little bit, a little bit time. 370 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 2: All right, let's head to Big d where the Cowboys 371 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: were not in the mood for any type of competitive contest. 372 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 2: Second and ten as a Dallas forty three howls back 373 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: throws it. 374 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god, god, it's playing. It's plain. 375 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 2: He's got one, no way twenty he touch left, he 376 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 2: breaks the tackle of the cat. 377 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: Stop is he's did it? 378 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: But god, the whole defense is going on the land 379 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 2: of the kettle. 380 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: That is unbelievable. 381 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 2: That's the most pick sixers in one season. 382 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: In NFL history. Five touchdowns. 383 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: Where did you come from? 384 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: Great call and what you if you watch on YouTube 385 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: you could see it, or if you watched live yesterday, 386 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: Dan Quinn up in the booth, the DC, the Cowboys 387 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 2: going absolutely apes celebrating Deron Bland setting the NFL record for. 388 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: Pick sixes in the season, I mean his fifth, the 389 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: fifth of the season. 390 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts has four career touchdowns in his whole like 391 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: NFL career. 392 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: Doron Bland is a quarterback. He's got five pick sixes 393 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: this year. Unbelievable. 394 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: And that was just the little like stamp at the 395 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: end of the game because the Cowboys offense absolutely obliterated 396 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 2: the Commanders, got their DC fired. We're going to talk 397 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: about it. Forty five to ten from Jarro World. This 398 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: was mark a total celebration of the Cowboys, the brand, 399 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: and their standing as one of the very. 400 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:53,719 Speaker 1: Elite teams in the NFL. 401 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 4: It was and you know, I've been critical of the 402 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 4: Cowboy experience over the years, but not in this version 403 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 4: of what we saw, because they have been doing this 404 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 4: at home all year long. They are five and zero 405 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: at home and have outscored opponents two hundred and five 406 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 4: points to sixty in those five wins. That's insane. But 407 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 4: it is not nearly as insane as what Deron Bland 408 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 4: has done. It's like, Ceedee Lamb has six touchdowns and 409 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 4: he's a superstar. To like, the degree of difficulty of 410 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 4: what Deron Bland has done is wild to me. That 411 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 4: was not These aren't like, you know, picked off at 412 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 4: the goal line like what we saw in the Seahawks 413 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 4: Niners game. It's like, that's a sixty three yard return 414 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 4: and it's done it over and over, and it's like, 415 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 4: I don't there are certain football records that we can 416 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 4: argue matter or don't matter. This matters because he's helping 417 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 4: the team when he's pouring on points at the end 418 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 4: of the game. It's the kind of thing for me 419 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 4: that it's like, I don't know if we'll ever see 420 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 4: this again. This could be the kind of thing where 421 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 4: you could go fifty years or for us, we're not 422 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 4: going to be here for maybe fifty more years. You 423 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 4: never know, like it could be a long time before 424 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 4: anyone touches this because it's such a confluence of insane 425 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 4: things happening. It's not just being in the right place 426 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 4: at the right time, but you also have to be 427 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 4: the athlete to do what he's done. Like on that return, 428 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 4: how easy would it have been a thirteen year old return? 429 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 4: You get clipped, you're down the ground. It's just kind 430 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 4: of magical. And I know that like it completely electrified 431 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 4: that stadium, their owner, the whole thing. 432 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 3: Well, are you saying I'm not gonna live to ninety four? 433 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 4: That's my I did not guarantee that, Greg. 434 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm so much. 435 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 4: Older than you, Greg that you know, according to the 436 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 4: two of you, that I was more suggesting perhaps I 437 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 4: won't see that record. 438 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: Bro, You'll be if you make it, you'll be triple digits. 439 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: And that's that is pretty wild. 440 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 4: That would be wild. That's a long time from now. 441 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: This Cowboys team does feel different now. Could they lose 442 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: in the second round of the playoffs, of course they 443 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 3: could because like I don't I don't think they're a 444 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 3: step apart from these other teams, but they do. They 445 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 3: do have everything they need right now, and the most 446 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 3: important thing is just Dac dots down the field. He's 447 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 3: he's so comfortable and Romo. I know he gets over excited, 448 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: but I don't think he says things like this might 449 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 3: be the best offensive line in the league right now, 450 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 3: especially in terms of pass protection willy nilly, and they 451 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 3: are just playing out standing up front. Now everyone looks 452 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: out standing up front against this Commander's pass rus it 453 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: doesn't exist. But he's throwing the ball deep down the field. 454 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 3: That's eighteen vertical throws for a touchdown this year, according 455 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 3: to next Gen Stats, way more than any other player, 456 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: and fourteen of those are in like the last six weeks. 457 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: So this is a bombs away offense. And I thought 458 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 3: these last couple of weeks it's almost like they're working 459 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: on things that they'll need in bigger games. They got 460 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 3: Gallup and Cooks involved last week, and then this week. 461 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 3: I thought Pollard ran really well. I know it was 462 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: only thirteen carries, but from quarter one quarter two when 463 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 3: it mattered, they were consistently running the ball and that 464 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 3: was excellent. It was actually not a game they were 465 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 3: dominating in total yardage through three quarters or anything, but 466 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 3: they were getting everything they wanted to done. I think 467 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 3: fifteen of their first twenty six plays or first downs. 468 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: This was in many ways the ultimate Cowboys game, at 469 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 2: least in terms of the regular season. The game on 470 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving with the Salvation Army Red kettle out for the 471 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 2: first time you have a blowout of a hated rival. 472 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: You have Doron Bland making history. 473 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: You have Dak once again saying I am a very 474 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 2: real MVP candidate. You had a certain celebrity that I'll 475 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: get to in a moment. At halftime, Jared Jones was 476 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: over the moon with this one. 477 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: This is so real day. 478 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 4: I wouldn't even day or as much as I imagine 479 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 4: or as big as I might dream or think. 480 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: I couldn't have. 481 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 6: Drawn for daylight today. Yet I couldn't have imagined it. 482 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: It really covered a lot of ground. And don't you 483 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: get the feeling that. 484 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 2: The just the atmosphere And maybe Jane Slater would be 485 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: the best person to asked this question too. But when 486 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: things are going well for the Cowboys, it just seems 487 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 2: everyone when you see those like group interviews and stuff 488 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: around Jered like everything is good. Everybody's in a good mood. 489 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 2: The Cowboys are kicking butt and and spirits are high. 490 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: And if Jerry's spirits are high, you can tell that 491 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 2: whole vibe around that team is glowing. 492 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: And that's certainly where it is right now. 493 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 4: I'm totally with you. I think he's really well liked. 494 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 4: I'll never forget actually being in Dallas a number of 495 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 4: like Thanksgivings ago, it's like two thousand. Drew bledsoe era 496 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 4: and went with my uncle and cousins too of the 497 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 4: Cowboys game, and I watched Jerry Jones before kickoff individually 498 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 4: shake hands with I would say roughly four hundred people 499 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 4: like he took that time. So it's like it is 500 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 4: his baby, it's his thing. We've always known that, and 501 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 4: I've always felt like there's always like an era of 502 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 4: like hyperbole to anything he says about the team. But 503 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 4: in this case, this season and yesterday, I did not 504 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 4: feel that. I think it was like a this is 505 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 4: a different Cowboys team to me than one that we've 506 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: experienced together. 507 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 3: On this show, he was quoted as part of that 508 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: scrum is saying I'll put some super Bowls in there. 509 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever had a better day 510 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: with the Cowboys than today, and that that's all about Thanksgiving. 511 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 3: Like I believe that he believes that in the moment 512 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 3: he's saying that, in the moment, Thanksgiving is the ultimate 513 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 3: Cowboys holiday celebration. Wes and I love this book Billy 514 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 3: Fountains Long Halftime Walk, which is a great book sort 515 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 3: of about the NFL and military service and and football 516 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: and how and it's set on Thanksgiving at these games 517 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 3: and there's something so American for for good and bad 518 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 3: like about all this. And the Cowboys putting a bang 519 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 3: thing on the Commanders is like. 520 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: That, I'm sorry, what's bad about it? Out of the 521 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: out of curiosity? 522 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 5: Uh? 523 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: Well, read the book, I would say, like some of 524 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 3: the ways. 525 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: I was talking about just yesterday, Okay, the book nothing. 526 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: Bad, yes, just the over the top sort of the 527 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 3: way they used that it was written for the perspective 528 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 3: I was a military guy. 529 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, because and Greg is very well known for putting 530 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: myself in line on this, the celebration of people being 531 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: fired from their jobs because the Cowboys decimated the Washington 532 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: defense to the point that the new owner of the team, 533 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: Josh Harris, fired defensive coordinator Jack del Rio after the game. 534 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 2: They also parted ways with defensive backs coach Brent Wisselmeyer. 535 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: So tough Friday. Here is a missive from the new 536 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 2: owner of the Commanders. We haven't heard from him obviously 537 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: a lot. He just succeeded Daniel Snyder a couple months ago. 538 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: I feel exactly how our fans. 539 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: Feel today disappointed and frustrated. It's how our players and 540 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: staff feel as well. I knew our first season of 541 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: ownership would include challenges along the way, and we will 542 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 2: not shy away from hard work, nor. 543 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: Will we be deterred by adversity. 544 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: As coach Rever and I discussed, all of our energy 545 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: for the remainder of the season will be focused on 546 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 2: playing better, more consistent football and developing our players well, 547 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: intently evaluating the areas in which we need to improve 548 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: this offseason. Our fans deserve a team that can compete 549 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: with the NFL's best and win sustainably over the long term. 550 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: I will not waiver from that mission. 551 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so strong words there from the new owner, and 552 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 2: it did make me think when I heard this morning 553 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: guys that you know, we talked about a couple of 554 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: weeks ago, that the setting an environment in the league 555 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 2: right now is very, very ripe for mass dismissiles at 556 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 2: the end of the year, head coaches in danger. And 557 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: what do head coaches and dangers do when there's an issue. 558 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: You start firing your assistance and you start reshuffling the decks. 559 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: So I feel like we're seeing a lot of that 560 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: the last a week or so, and now Washington's doing 561 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 2: it as well. But I just think it's a little unfair, 562 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 2: you know, to candel Rio and the defensive backs coach, 563 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 2: when you just traded away like your two most impact 564 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 2: players on the defensive line, two of your most impactful players, 565 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 2: and what did you expect in this setting? Honestly, I 566 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,239 Speaker 2: guess you could be more competitive. 567 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 3: But still I think it's it's warranted only because this 568 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 3: defense has been in It's Ron Rivera's defense. So it's 569 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: a weird move because like Ron Rivera's on was certainly 570 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 3: going to get fired at the end of the Year's 571 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 3: almost a move that signals to me, look, we we 572 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: want Ron Rivera to land this thing, but we want 573 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 3: to show our fans we want to do something now, 574 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 3: and we're not going to fire Rivera till the end 575 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 3: of the season or maybe Week eight team whatever it is. Uh, 576 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 3: but this this is a really poorly coach defense. I 577 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: thought del Rio was an uninspired hired to begin with. 578 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 3: He lasted a while, and no team has more like 579 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: coverage bus over the last four years than del Rio. 580 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 3: They're either really awesome like or they're terrible, and there's 581 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 3: nothing in between there was a scout for the that works. 582 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 3: I think for Cowboys dot Com Brian Brotus, who pointed 583 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 3: out on the Cooks touchdown, they've run that route a 584 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: lot all season. But the only team that like fell 585 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 3: for it like a banana and the tailpipe and played 586 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 3: it so poorly all year was Washington and they had 587 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 3: to walk in touchdown. 588 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, they were thirty second in DVOA. It's weird because 589 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 4: under del Rio there were seventh last year, twenty seventh 590 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 4: the year before that, and fourth, so they've been all 591 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 4: over the map. I'm with you, Dan in the sense 592 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 4: that I just think it was more of a statement 593 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 4: move or a try. I look like what you just read. 594 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 4: It's like a signal to the fans, like we're not 595 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 4: just sitting pat, we see what you see. We're as 596 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 4: frustrated as you are. I just part of me wonders 597 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 4: that maybe Ron Rivera is allowed to land the plane, 598 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 4: as you said, Greg, but I do wonder if maybe 599 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 4: this would be an opportunity, if you want to go 600 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 4: interim to see what Eric the enemy could do for 601 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 4: a stretch of time here. 602 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 3: I think this, I think this really signaled we're not 603 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 3: going to do that I mean, you know what I mean, 604 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 3: like today would have been the day to do it. 605 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 4: I would I I guess the problem there then he's 606 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 4: he'll get swept out too potentially. It's like it's another 607 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 4: time he's done a good. 608 00:28:51,760 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: Just over yep, right by the let's give it up Arthy, 609 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: come on, now he's got this team humming. 610 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 2: He does remember when Kellen Moore left in the offseason, 611 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: everybody their little jabs like, oh, he's gonna run the offense, 612 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: how imaginative Texas Coast offense is? 613 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: Humming? 614 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 3: Okay, you're right, and I like, by the way, they've 615 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: set up a really nice stretch run. Now they'll be 616 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 3: heavy favorites over the Seahawks, but that's still an interesting game. 617 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 3: And then Eagles Bill's Dolphins Lions really fun stretch run. 618 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 3: We got a lot of Actually I looked at all 619 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: these contenders schedules, there's a lot of good regular season 620 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 3: games left. The schedule makers did nice. 621 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: Nicely done, Greg. 622 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: And finally, I thought the best part of this middle game, 623 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: because it wasn't overly competitive as you could see, was 624 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: Tony Romo just yeah, basically losing control of his emotions 625 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: when talking about Dolly Parton's halftime performance while wearing a 626 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: Cowboys a cheerleader uniform. 627 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: She's like eighty years old. 628 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: It's very impressive, Dolly, and she's a national treasurer and 629 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: we love her, but nobody loves her more like Tony Romo. 630 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 2: Please watch this or listen, and you could hear Jim 631 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: Nance getting and getting increasingly concerned as Tony can't move 632 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: off the idea of Dolly Parton in a Dallas Cowboys 633 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: cheerleaders universe. The field is all set after the Dolly performance, 634 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: we are the champions, and she. 635 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 3: Was wearing the Cowboys cheerleading outfit. I saw that coming. 636 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 5: Did I think she's gonna go with a little cheerleading 637 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 5: outfit tonight? 638 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, it's pretty good. What do 639 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: you think we're gonna see me? She looks amazing. You 640 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: never know what's gonna happen here. Who doesn't like Dolly 641 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: part Now? She's absolutely an American treasure, that's for sure. 642 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 2: And you are too fast becoming as you look at 643 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: the quarterback comparison. 644 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: I've got like another take on Dolly that might even 645 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 3: top this from our old friend on the show, Mary 646 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 3: Kay Cabot. She's actually over in Deck mentioned here was 647 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 3: a tweet from Mary kay Cabot. Yesterday, I'm Dolly sitting 648 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 3: on the couch watching some football, like a big stuff Turkey, 649 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 3: and then Dolly happened, hopped on the treadmill, booked a 650 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 3: consultation for implants and reassessed my life's goal LF let's 651 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 3: let's f and go Mary kay Cabot feeling no pain 652 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 3: on Thanksgiving out. 653 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: There, no feeling good, feeling real good. 654 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 4: That is unlike any other Mary kay Cabot tweet. Ever, 655 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 4: it's amazing. 656 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: The kind of the glow in Romo's face is really 657 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: what takes it to the next lot. 658 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: Like he's not ready to get back to being an 659 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: analyst at that point. 660 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 4: Nance feeling Nance tried so hard to get out of that. 661 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: NaN's desertly trying to pivot. But you know, like everybody's 662 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: got to stop clutching their pearls. And you know what, 663 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: Tony's right, that was incredible. And Dolly Parton, you know, 664 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: if you want to do some And I didn't really 665 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: know Dolly that well other then how everyone else knows her, 666 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: but she is My wife loves Dolly Parton and she 667 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: is an incredible kind of humanitarian and the amount of 668 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: charity she does in addition to being obviously very talented 669 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 2: actress and singer and all that. 670 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: See now I'm romoing out to her. 671 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 4: No, I think it's appropriate. You've done You've done a 672 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 4: nice job, and we didn't try to sidetrack you off 673 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 4: of that. 674 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: All right, Uh, let's take a break. 675 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: Just, you know, talk a little more dolly off mic 676 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 2: and then when we come back, we'll hit. 677 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: The primetime game. All right, we are back Mark Sessler 678 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: in the v neck. 679 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 4: There is one other Cowboys. 680 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: Note. 681 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,959 Speaker 4: I don't know about you guys, but this, like this 682 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 4: is more of like a parabolic mic item. I think, 683 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 4: depending on you know, game to game. It's an island 684 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 4: game in the middle of the day. Dak Prescott's pre 685 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 4: snap cadence. Can we just play this, producer Eric, please. 686 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: Producer Ic? 687 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? 688 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 3: Did you yet? 689 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 4: It's like three hundred and forty seven times this played 690 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 4: during the game yesterday, and it just seemed to get 691 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 4: louder and louder, and it's like, I don't know, is 692 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 4: it to tell as a as a pre snap cadence. 693 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 4: I love how he says it, It just it doesn't 694 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 4: sound like a human almost. 695 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 3: Well, it's it's his uh Grenatine Grenadin, you know, it's 696 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 3: it's his thing, and he's been he's been going hard 697 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 3: at it now for a month plus. I would say, yeah, 698 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 3: here we go to the I'm just saying that sometimes 699 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 3: just in my everyday life, just yeah, here we go. 700 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 3: And I think it's a nice way to just set 701 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 3: off a conversation. 702 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 5: Like. 703 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 2: A Creed rips into my sacrifice in the encore, and 704 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 2: then half the audience does this. 705 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 706 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 4: I feel like some of these quarterbacks like they know 707 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 4: what we're going to talk about it, and like do 708 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 4: they lean in from an inflection or vocal point on 709 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 4: some level to make it a little even more absurd 710 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 4: than it needs to be. I think we all know 711 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 4: what he's trying to say. 712 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: Well, I got to tell you this, Mark. I haven't 713 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 3: released my top five Cadence rankings for the season. It's 714 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 3: an annual event people really look forward to. But between 715 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 3: his voice, how strong his pipes are, and and the 716 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 3: unique nature of yeah, here we go, I mean he's 717 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 3: a strong favorite for number one this year. 718 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go, like with you with MVP talk, it's 719 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: too early to talk about the Caenance rankings. Yet you're 720 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 2: not allowed to now. 721 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 3: It's it's by the way, it's not too early anymore. 722 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 3: My point now is that like whatever's happened to this 723 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 3: point almost doesn't matter. It's still going to be moving forward. 724 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 3: Dak started it yesterday. That was a nice, nice one 725 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 3: because everyone's watching that game. 726 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 2: That's it's like the most one as opposed to the 727 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: other Cowboys games that nobody was watching. 728 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 3: Right, nobody watched any of those. Speaking of which has good? 729 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 3: What does a sham god did with that call? 730 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: Sham good? 731 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 5: You know? 732 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 3: And we're talking Nance and Romo. What a job by 733 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 3: Jim Nance on the Deran Bland. Uh call there. I 734 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 3: loved seeing Nance getting excited in a big spot. Let's 735 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 3: hear it. 736 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: Second and ten there it is, this is history. 737 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 4: The plan could take. 738 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: It to discharge. 739 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 3: This will be the record by for the fifth time. 740 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 2: Has a pig six It's never happened in the history 741 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 2: of the NFL. 742 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 3: And want a call by you? 743 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: You got me with goosebumps Nance. 744 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: That was unbelievable, excellent, you're right, accent call by Nance, 745 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: who's a Hall of Fame broadcaster and uh and it's 746 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 2: also a very Romo move to his first analysis is 747 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 2: on the call by Jim Nance. 748 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 3: I wish he didn't do that. 749 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: No, he didn't need to do that, but he can't. 750 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 2: I think that's part of like the give and take 751 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 2: with Romo, like he just's his exuberance. He just he 752 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: just says what's on his mind, like the Dolly Parton 753 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 2: situation from minutes ago. All right, let's get to the 754 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 2: final game. This one was also a one sided affair. 755 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 2: Well first and goal, eight yard lines left, tossed to 756 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 2: McCaffrey coming left, stacked up, Stay's patient, scorns through and takes. 757 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 3: It all the way down to the goal line. Touchdown. 758 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 3: See and see what a run that one? 759 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 5: Cmct CB A slow fuse on that one. 760 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 4: Because there was nowhere to go an McCaffrey taking care. 761 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: Of pisit man? 762 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 2: They love the acronyms over there, Greg popping Tim Ryan 763 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 2: with the call. Awesome, awesome performance by Christian McCaffrey. Who 764 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: if now Greg has Dane that we're allowed to talk 765 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 2: about the MVP race man? 766 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: Where is he in the conversation? Producer? Eric is a 767 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: mark referred to you earlier? I called you human, Eric. 768 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 2: Eric's can you see? Or Eric, can you see? But 769 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 2: where Christian McCaffrey is in the Vegas MVP odds because 770 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 2: he deserves to be there. He ran for a buck 771 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 2: fourteen and two scores in the first half, putting the 772 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 2: forty nine Ers ahead, and they cruised to a thirty 773 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 2: one to thirteen win over the fading Seattle Seahawks, who 774 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 2: are in a lot of trouble Gregy. 775 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: The Niners did what. 776 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 2: They wanted on offense, and even the Seahawks touchdown came 777 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 2: on a pick six. So yeah, this was dominance on 778 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 2: both sides. 779 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 3: It couldn't be one more one side, and I think 780 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 3: has a lot of soul searching going on in Seattle. 781 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 3: Let's talk about the team that matters the most here 782 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 3: first and that that's the forty nine Ers. And watching 783 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 3: this game, it occurred to me, like Kyle Shanahan's forty 784 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 3: nine Ers system, essentially, this offense has now been there 785 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 3: for seven years. It's been in an NFL where a 786 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 3: lot of things change, Like he this has been an 787 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 3: awesome offense that's brilliantly constructed and play called for a 788 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 3: while now, it's been a great run and to me, 789 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 3: this is this is the best one and it's the 790 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 3: best one because of Party, first of all, and because 791 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 3: he elevates their offense in a way that Jimmy g 792 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 3: and certainly any of the other backups never did. And 793 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 3: because they're healthy, which they often aren't right now, they 794 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 3: are healthy, and that's when they weren't winning games a 795 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago. That that was a big part 796 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 3: of it. But also because these guys have been there 797 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 3: now for a while. Outside of Purty, Deebo and a 798 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 3: Yuk and Kittle and Trent Williams and even a lot 799 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 3: of a lot of the line's been there for a 800 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 3: while and it's all just coming together and they've they've 801 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 3: been so close every year and I'm not saying they 802 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 3: couldn't be close in another year, but man, you look 803 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 3: at this Shanahan thing, it just feels like, Man, this 804 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 3: is the time. Listen, this is the team. This is 805 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 3: the team to do it. 806 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 4: Yep, I absolutely feel the same way. It's it is 807 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 4: so key that they stay healthy. When all five of 808 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 4: their offensive stars have been on the field together for 809 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 4: full games, they've been undefeated. That shouldn't change. They're so dominant. 810 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 4: I think it really mattered last night to see that 811 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 4: you got Deebo Samuel as the core element. Again, he's 812 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 4: such a change agent. But it's like, we talk about 813 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 4: the offense as we should, but their defense is an 814 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 4: absolute destroyer. I mean what they did last night. At 815 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 4: one point in the first half, the Niners had sixteen 816 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 4: first downs and the Seahawks had run eighteen plays and 817 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 4: it never really got better for Seattle. And I mean, 818 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 4: you know, the same way that you know the first 819 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 4: game changed the way we thought about Detroit and Green Bay. 820 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 4: I'm looking at a Seattle you know schedule where you've 821 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 4: got to go to Dallas, you got the Niners and 822 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 4: then the Eagles. I don't know it feel it kind 823 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 4: of feels like curtains to me, and is brilliant as 824 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 4: Pete Carroll is at all times. I thought the look 825 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 4: on his face at the end of that game spoke volumes. 826 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 4: I think they're in a bit of a dark corner 827 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 4: that will be hard to escape from. 828 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 2: Here are the MVP odds, by the way, Jalen at 829 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 2: plus two fifty what this from DraftKings Lamar plus three 830 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 2: fifty mahomes plus four twenty five two of plus five 831 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 2: fifty DAK plus eight fifty CMC plus sixteen hundred these 832 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 2: is so annoying. 833 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,439 Speaker 1: Come on, right, I think, yes, sixteen touchdowns. 834 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 3: Why is Jalen Hurts the favorite? DAK was plus three 835 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 3: thousand a couple of weeks ago, So if you caught 836 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 3: on at any time, I think that's still value. And 837 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 3: where where is Tyreek Hill? Who's literally my vote right now? 838 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: Greg? Nobody likes Tyreek Hill. I think that factors in. 839 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 3: That's just positioned on against McCaffrey. Though, yeah, I don't 840 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 3: think that factor is he's plus four thousand. I don't 841 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 3: think that factors into the draftking odds. But I hear you. 842 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: Right now, he has some rough stuff in his personal history. 843 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 2: Let's see, let's get back to it. So, yes, McCaffrey, 844 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 2: I believe he's got sixteen touchdowns this year and he's dominant. 845 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 2: Brock Purdy statistically not his best game. He threw that 846 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 2: pick six. I mentioned that briefly made the game somewhat 847 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 2: interesting in the third quarter, but also kind of put 848 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 2: a stamp on the game and put the game away 849 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,760 Speaker 2: with a beautiful throat to Brandon Nyuk in zone coverage, 850 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 2: and Shanahan after the game made a point to really 851 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 2: pump up Purdy in that spot. He said, you know, 852 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 2: that is a play where we have something underneath a 853 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 2: little checkdown that could have went for twelve yards. So 854 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 2: when he decides to put it over the middle on 855 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 2: a line from about thirty yards out, that is a 856 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 2: high level throw. And I think it gets to mark 857 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 2: what we were talking about on Wednesday about you know, 858 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 2: Purdy and the kind of season he's having and this 859 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 2: like we act like he's this little boy that was 860 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 2: plucked out of obscurity. 861 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,760 Speaker 1: That's a high level football throw. 862 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 2: So, yeah, he might not have the arm talent of 863 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 2: those other quarterbacks we mentioned just now, but he's got 864 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 2: enough to make it happen when he's pulling the trigger 865 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,399 Speaker 2: and using his instincts for good. 866 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that you brought up that throw because 867 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 4: I think that's an argument in favor of the fact 868 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 4: that this quarterback has elevated the play of Brandon Ayuk, 869 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 4: who I mean, Brandon Ayuk was for multiple years in 870 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 4: a row talked about this will be the year he 871 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 4: totally breaks out and becomes a start. Has a lot 872 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 4: to do with him, but it has a lot to 873 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 4: do with Purdy as well, and like their connection has 874 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,760 Speaker 4: been essentially flawless for weeks on end, and that throw 875 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 4: was not the kind of throw that like a mid 876 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 4: tier quarterback that we'd want to write off as a 877 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 4: system guy makes. And now I look at those MVP 878 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 4: odds and it's like, where is Perdy? To be honest, 879 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 4: it's like I find that to be slightly absurd that 880 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 4: he's not near, like in the top five, top six 881 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 4: of that list, if not higher. I think it's just 882 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 4: we're looking at a perception problem when it comes to 883 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 4: brock Party in this offense. 884 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 3: Here's the thing. If they get the one seed, and 885 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 3: I'm not ruling them out of that, like he's got 886 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 3: a chance. It's stupid the fact that Jalen's plus two fifty, 887 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 3: because that's just like they have the one seed. And 888 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 3: I just love the way they started this game. I 889 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,280 Speaker 3: think of NBA teams, you talk about two man games 890 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 3: a lot, just like the two stars kind of playing 891 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 3: off each other, you know, Porzingis and Jalen Brown right now, 892 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 3: beautiful two man game. They got a two man game 893 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 3: going with CD, I mean with Debo and CMC and 894 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 3: where they're just using them interchangeably and matching them up, 895 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 3: and they have the Seahawks defense had no freaking clue 896 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 3: what to do the first couple drives of that game. 897 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 3: Shanahan just owns this matchup. He owns Pete Carroll, who's 898 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 3: a defensive coach. When when the forty nine ers have 899 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 3: the ball and the way they use those two guys 900 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,240 Speaker 3: is it's pretty beautiful. 901 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,919 Speaker 2: It's funny, and that's obviously credit to Kyle Shanahan, the 902 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 2: offensive mastermind. 903 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: I like this thing that's going on this show. 904 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 2: I feel like there's been an uptick in it this 905 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 2: year of just like shots to Mike Shanahan, Kyle's father 906 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 2: sitting stonefaced in the stands with that shock of white 907 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 2: hair and a lot of like, younger fans don't even 908 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 2: know that Mike Shanahan. Kyle Shannan is who who he 909 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 2: is in large part because of Mike Shanahan, who was 910 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 2: a genius in his own right and won multiple Super Bowls. 911 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 2: And now Kyle has kind of taken the league over 912 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 2: and it is that dude Seattle, You're right, had no answers. 913 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 2: It looked like Reek Wollan got benched in this game, 914 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 2: although Carol downplayed it afterwards, but he was he misstackles, 915 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,800 Speaker 2: he said it. Carol said after the game that he 916 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 2: had a bad shoulder, but he was playing special teams 917 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 2: after they took him out of the game for Michael Jackson. 918 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 2: So I mean, you talk about Reek Wollan was one 919 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 2: of the best young additions to the league last year 920 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 2: and now he's on the bench on. 921 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: The offensive side of the ball. 922 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 2: Obviously, Gino Smith is dealing with the arm injury, but 923 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 2: this offense just is not humming anymore. Greg And if 924 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 2: Gino is not physically right, and we'll have to see, 925 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 2: he played that game with a big kind of like 926 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 2: not on his throwing elbow, maybe. 927 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 1: It is that time to have a jewe Lock conversation. 928 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 2: But at the same time, like nobody was like pumping 929 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 2: the brakes on the Drew Block experience harder than me 930 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,280 Speaker 2: a couple of years back in Denver. It's not necessarily 931 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 2: a great second option. But the offense has hit a rut. 932 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. 933 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 3: They're disappointed, Like everything about this team is disappointing. They're 934 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 3: six and five, And what you said about the Packers 935 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 3: and the Vikings can get in is in large part 936 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 3: because the Seahawks can fall right out of this thing. 937 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 3: I mean, think about these two games against the Ravens 938 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 3: where absolutely this game in the Ravens game where absolutely 939 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:36,399 Speaker 3: Gino didn't excel. But and he's not gonna be able 940 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 3: to elevate things going really wrong around him. But find 941 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 3: a spot on this team that's not getting blasted. They 942 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 3: spent their whole offseason building up this defensive line, completely 943 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 3: changing it, spending tons of money, draft picks. They got 944 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 3: young guys coming at Draymont Jones, they trade for Leonard Williams. 945 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 3: They get blown off the ball, They can't tackle anyone. 946 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 3: Seem see their defensive rookie of the Year, Tarik Willans 947 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 3: getting benched. Their linebackers are slow. DK metcalf is having 948 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 3: one of the worst seasons for US for a quote 949 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,439 Speaker 3: unquote superstar wide receiver. The guy can't make a catch. 950 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: I was gonna, I'm telling you the club I think 951 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 1: greg I had. 952 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 2: I think. 953 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 3: So he's killing my guy, Gino. Gino's not great, but 954 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 3: two drops that killed Drives. And then when it's fourteenth 955 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 3: to three and you're trying to change the game, and 956 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 3: that could have been a touchdown or at least a 957 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 3: fifty yard play down the field, and DK just drifts 958 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 3: and drifts and trust me, Seahawks fans have been losing 959 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 3: their mind over DK's play in this game, and then 960 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 3: their own lines stunk in this game. Most of those 961 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 3: sacks were quick sacks. So it's like, I just don't 962 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,800 Speaker 3: see what they're they're good at. They maybe they're average 963 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 3: enough to win nine games again, but man, it's it's 964 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 3: pretty disappointing. 965 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,760 Speaker 4: It's very This is also one matchup that they've they've 966 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 4: just they cannot solve. And I think, like last year 967 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 4: on Thursday Night, like Sharvariusward versus DK Metcalf was physical 968 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 4: and it went both ways. Like last night, he was 969 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 4: just taken out of the game DK Metcalf and and 970 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 4: then you got nowhere to go. 971 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 2: I'll give the final word to Christian McCaffrey, who deserves 972 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,800 Speaker 2: to be way better than plus six thousand, because he has. 973 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 3: Been sixteen hundred buddy by the way, sixteen sixteen accuracy sick, 974 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 3: thank you, and Purty's plus three thousand, number eight, so 975 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 3: he's sort. 976 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 4: Of in the max but not really ridiculous. 977 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 2: One of the things I like about the write ups 978 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 2: by the AP and others on Thanksgiving is like just 979 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 2: like a lot of turkey talk, Just like turkey talk 980 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 2: slips in there, and I want to hear this quote 981 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 2: from McCaffrey because I'm reading it and I'm like, man, 982 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 2: this guy's really going into detail about this turkey. And 983 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 2: it's like slotted in between two like beefy graphs about 984 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,399 Speaker 2: the you know, and of this like statistics about this win. 985 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 2: And then you have all, right, here's I'm going to 986 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 2: drop in the CMC quote here and the guy just 987 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 2: going on and on about the turkey. 988 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 3: That was awesome. 989 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 6: It was actually really good turkey too. I have no 990 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 6: idea how they kept all of the dishes were hot. 991 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 6: I was bummed. I didn't get the sweet potato with 992 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 6: the marshmallows that I didn't I don't know if they 993 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 6: had the they had a fork, but then they you know, 994 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,319 Speaker 6: we had to pick the turkey leg up. By that time, 995 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,280 Speaker 6: I was eating the turkey. But the turkey was really good, 996 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 6: well cooked, wasn't dry at all, and like I said, 997 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 6: still hot, which was impressive for being, you know, twenty 998 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 6: minutes after the game. I don't know where they kept it, 999 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 6: but it was good turkey. 1000 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 2: Somebody gives them, say an update, how they kept the 1001 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 2: turkey warm? 1002 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 3: What did they use? 1003 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: Was it an oven kept on low? 1004 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 2: Was it just covered and kept maybe in a microwave 1005 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 2: with the microwave off? 1006 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: Like what what? How did they keep it? 1007 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 2: Was there one of those burners underneath, but they they 1008 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 2: were very careful not to have the burner turned up 1009 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 2: too high, you know what I'm talking about? 1010 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 1: Those things. I don't know. 1011 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 3: They got to have it. They got to have a 1012 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 3: kitchen somewhere in the bows of that stadium. But I 1013 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,240 Speaker 3: was thinking, as we're listening to that, like, man, I've rarely 1014 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 3: heard CMC talk at length, and maybe that's why he 1015 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 3: just gets super nerdy about turkeys, and that's. 1016 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: Just he was just a matter there. That actually was 1017 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: a quote from July. I mean, the guy, that's all 1018 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:53,720 Speaker 1: he talks about. 1019 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 3: I gotta say, I watched this game with you know, 1020 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 3: friends and their families and and a lot of kids 1021 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 3: were there, and no moment all day popped to them 1022 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 3: like George Kittle throwing that turkey leg up into the 1023 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 3: crowd and running turkeys afterwards. That was huge in the 1024 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 3: ten year old set they were talking about they wanted 1025 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,359 Speaker 3: to throw some turkeys. It was just like that pop. 1026 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 3: So that was a nice, nice moment for Kittle to 1027 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 3: really break. 1028 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,359 Speaker 2: By that by that moment in my house, and I 1029 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 2: still have a family here that stayed the night. The 1030 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 2: Princess Bride had been turned on by that way. 1031 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Had late. 1032 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 2: We had a late as you wish anything else. No, 1033 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna go play football with some kids now, really, Yeah. 1034 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 1: Damn, I. 1035 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 4: Hope people dominate them like that sounds a good spot 1036 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 4: for you to really shine athletically. 1037 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 2: Yesterday we played also and it was tough because I 1038 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 2: had to be We used to call it automatic QB, 1039 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 2: but I think my son corrected me and say now 1040 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 2: that they call it all QB or something. But anyway, 1041 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 2: we had an uneven number, so I played QB and 1042 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 2: it was tough when you automatic QB on both sides 1043 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 2: because it's like Barrys anders in that flag football game. 1044 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 2: Like I'm trying to distribute to all these kids and 1045 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 2: there's so many mouths to feed, and nobody's happy. 1046 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:20,959 Speaker 1: At the end of the game. 1047 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 2: You can't win QB because everyone thinks they should have 1048 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 2: been targeted more. 1049 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 1: And here I am. 1050 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,360 Speaker 2: I've completed probably about sixty or seventy percent of my 1051 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 2: passes and half the kids can't even catch that's pretty 1052 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 2: high percentage. And after the game, I'm being told that 1053 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 2: I was leaving people out of the game plan. So 1054 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 2: we got another game about to play this Now we 1055 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 2: have even number because some people went home, and I'm 1056 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 2: going to be playing defense and I'm going to be 1057 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 2: very physical, and I'm going to send messages to those 1058 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 2: who complained about my quarterback play, specifically my eldest son, 1059 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 2: jack who thought that I cost him the game yesterday 1060 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 2: by not throwing it to him literally every time. So 1061 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I want our friend Kareem What was it, 1062 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,399 Speaker 2: Kareem Jackson. Yeah, I'm hitting like Jackson in this game. 1063 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 3: Okay, I wish I was there. I had not to 1064 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:19,760 Speaker 3: sound like Sessler when he plays in tennis with his family. 1065 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 3: But we played a little football too yesterday, and I 1066 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 3: almost thought I was dominating in the game so much 1067 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 3: that I had to back off and not not be 1068 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,479 Speaker 3: as show offye with what was going on, like you said, 1069 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 3: distribute it around. But the explosiveness was absolutely there, and 1070 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,439 Speaker 3: I was. I was very proud of my son. Though 1071 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 3: to finish the game had a key Charvarius Ward like 1072 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,239 Speaker 3: pass breakup on me, so in a big spot, I 1073 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 3: I ultimately didn't come through for the team, and he 1074 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 3: just he knocked that thing out of my hands, like 1075 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 3: Charvarius words. 1076 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 4: I mean, we've we've you know, we've played with Walker 1077 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 4: in the past and you've seen that those innate dB skills, 1078 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,720 Speaker 4: So I'm not surprised to hear that update. 1079 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 2: I I don't really I like to keep my sons 1080 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 2: in games where I'm involved, but very rarely do they 1081 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 2: get the W And that's the way I was raised 1082 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 2: as well. My dad and one on one basketball took 1083 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 2: me into I was like a sophomore in high school. 1084 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,399 Speaker 2: To finally beat him, he did this back down move 1085 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,840 Speaker 2: in the post where he would back me down and 1086 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 2: then he'd use his left arm as a clear out 1087 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 2: and do a little jump hook and it was total bs. 1088 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,439 Speaker 2: And I would tell him that. I actually told him 1089 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 2: that last week because we were reminiscing about it. And 1090 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 2: when I finally beat him, it was all the more 1091 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 2: rewarding and it was a changing of the guard athletically 1092 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 2: within the family dynamic. 1093 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: And that's why I've. 1094 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 3: Recovered due to me, you know, right, it talks about that. 1095 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 2: So when they beat me, they'll beat me, and that 1096 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 2: will be a moment or they'll never beat me. 1097 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 1: Perhaps as well. I'm like, now, I'm like Barry Sanders's 1098 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:48,439 Speaker 1: monster of a dad. 1099 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 4: No, that's good, dad, work the tennis court. I keep 1100 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,919 Speaker 4: the foot on the gas though, I'll tell you that much. 1101 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:55,720 Speaker 1: I know you do, buddy. 1102 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,840 Speaker 2: Never forget that Barry Sanders' dad on the day that 1103 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 2: ran for two thousand yards in nineteen ninety seven, when 1104 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,720 Speaker 2: the first thing, excuse me, not at the two thousand 1105 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,280 Speaker 2: yard when he went to the Hall of Fame, Barrass Sanders' 1106 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 2: dad for Santras' induction and gave the speech. The first 1107 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 2: thing he said was that Jim Brown was the greatest 1108 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 2: running back of all time. And then he said that 1109 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 2: his son was the third greatest running back of all time. 1110 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,839 Speaker 2: And everybody was like, Who's what did he mean, who's 1111 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,759 Speaker 2: the second? He called himself the second greatest running back 1112 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 2: of all time. Imagine now that's taking it to an extreme. Yes, 1113 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 2: his dad was a handyman. 1114 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 3: Right, and he literally did not play professional football. 1115 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 1: Anyway. 1116 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,840 Speaker 2: Be nice to your kids. One day, they'll have to 1117 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:54,880 Speaker 2: take care of you, all right. Happy Thanksgiving weekend, everybody, 1118 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 2: enjoy it. We'll be back on Sunday with the full 1119 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 2: recap of both the Black Friday Jet Stoppins affair, Can't 1120 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 2: wait and everything on Sunday. Until then, you know what 1121 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:07,360 Speaker 2: you gotta do. 1122 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 1: Heed the Car