1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,440 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, here we are. 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 2: We're back on a big stage over at Dick's Sporting 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 2: Goods podcast. Come on, man, i don't know if y'all 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: know this, but I've got a I've got a podcast 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: coming up that I'm super excited to talk about. You know, 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: I appreciate you subscribing. Yeah, we say you know. This 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 2: next one is really really near and dear to my heart. Uh, 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: it's a It's got a host that's charismatic, funny, talented, 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: maybe a time pro bowler three time on bro whatever 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: I call him me, You guys can call me Cam. 11 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, bring bringing this on in baby, And here we 13 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: are with Off the Edge the Podcast and see the host. Hey, 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: I'm just so excited for you guys to uh to 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: to see this live. Sit here in New York, Off 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: the Edge of the Podcast me your host, Cam Jordan. 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: I'd like to bring in my talented guests, Miss Cheryl. 18 00:00:52,159 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: Swoops come on, tell usop dude, it is okay. 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: I'm so excited to have you here. I mean, come on, 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: just just a living legend herself. As before any questions, 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: I just wanted to give you your flowers. 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: Now. 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: Everything you do has been amazing r trendsetter, you know, 24 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: one of the first one, one of the first WBA 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: contracts ever. 26 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, the contracts then were a little different than 27 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 4: they are now. 28 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 29 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: Like we love that as a kid, like as an 30 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: NFL player, I know, like contracts are just like regular 31 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: negotiations for you as a WNBA player at one point 32 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: time to have to be like one of the first 33 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: to get a contract, what how did that happen to 34 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: be all just playing for free? 35 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 4: First of all, let me just say like I am 36 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 4: super honored to be on your show. I appreciate that, 37 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 4: like here and you know fanatics fast where you could 38 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 4: have had anybody. I am truly honored. But I will 39 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 4: say this, when the WNBA first started in ninety seven, 40 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 4: there really was no negotiating a contract. It was here's 41 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 4: where your contract is, this is what we're gonna pay you. 42 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 4: And we were just happy and excited to be able 43 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: to have a league to play in. 44 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 5: Period. 45 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: So you was just like, I'll take whatever you give me. 46 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: I'm thanks, well, right like that, okay. 47 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 5: But here's the thing. 48 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 4: It was different because there there were a few of 49 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 4: us who actually had playing contracts and marketing contracts, So 50 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 4: the marketing contract, it supplemented what we didn't make playing. 51 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 4: So I was I was fortunate enough to be one 52 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 4: of those players that had both you. 53 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: Yeah you without saying you was that guy. You were 54 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: that guy. Yeah you were you were that, you were 55 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: that lady? Yeah you were her? 56 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: There we go, yeah Timothy hermity Yeah, okay, yeah that part. 57 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, what what didn't you do in 58 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: your in your career? 59 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you accomplished so much from being a four 60 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: time WBA champion, a three time goal Olympic gold medalists, 61 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: you know, three time w n B, A m VP, 62 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: I mean, Defensive Player of the Year. I mean, what 63 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: haven't you done? What didn't you do in your career? 64 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: Any any regrets like oh my gosh, I wish I 65 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: would have can't say, give more buckets? 66 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: He was the MVP. 67 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, you know what I honestly said when 68 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 4: I retired that I was ready to retire because there 69 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 4: was no like, there was no challenge left for me 70 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 4: as far as playing. 71 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 5: No, like, I don't do that. 72 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: I've done it all. 73 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 5: No. 74 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 4: But you know what, No, Here's why I say that, 75 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 4: because as a competitor and you know this, right, Like, 76 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 4: you always. 77 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 5: Want to be the best. 78 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely, you want to be at the. 79 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 5: Top of your game. 80 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: So for me to win four championships, to win MVPs, 81 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 4: to win a scoring title, to win Defense Player of 82 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 4: the Year, to play in the Olympics, like I was 83 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: ready for a new challenge. But also it got to 84 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 4: a point to where it felt like a job. And 85 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 4: so to me, I always said, when when I woke 86 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 4: up every morning and dreaded having to go to the gym, 87 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 4: then I knew it was time for me to retire. 88 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: Man, so that just sounds like an off season for me. 89 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: I dread going to the gym. I'm like, dang, I. 90 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 5: Don't believe that. 91 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying, you know, like off season, 92 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: you live hard, you get to travel well, drink good, 93 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: eat good, and then you look down You're like, this 94 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: gut does not represent who I am, and then you 95 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: gotta work it off. 96 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 5: I'm I'm I'm still in my off season. You know 97 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 5: what I said. 98 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not here for that. 99 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 4: But you know, as a competitor and especially when you're 100 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 4: at the top of your game and like being a 101 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 4: lead and every single day, twice a day in the 102 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 4: off season, you're working out, you're in the gym, You're 103 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 4: doing all the things to be at the top of 104 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 4: your game. So I actually said, when I retired, I 105 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 4: was so excited to not have to go and work 106 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 4: out every day, to not have to be on a 107 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 4: special diet. I said, for a year, I was gonna 108 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 4: do whatever I wanted to do. I was gonna eat 109 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 4: what I wanted to eat. I was gonna drink what 110 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 4: I wanted to drink. 111 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 5: For a year. 112 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 4: So many years later, I'm still eating what I want 113 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 4: to eat for. 114 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: A year's Yeah, okay, you know, look, I don't know 115 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: about their retirement life just yet, but I now understand 116 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: the mentality. 117 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 5: I'm just telling you it's hard. 118 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: I can't wait. I'ma be playing like pick a ball 119 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: for the rest of my life. So I'm not trying 120 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 2: to hear it. 121 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 5: Really, Hey, are you ready to retire? Huh? 122 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely not? I said, when when three years from now, 123 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: when Tyler Shunk is. 124 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 5: Some good, good years ahead of you? 125 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 126 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Come on, I got I got an amazing team, 127 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: and you said I am her. 128 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 5: I'm saying you are him. 129 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so true, so true. 130 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: So tell us what you're up to now and like, 131 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: I mean, I know, like you used to work for 132 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: Nike and I was like, dang when she come in, 133 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: I got to ask her for the Nike plug. 134 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: But you know, what, what's you up to now? 135 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 5: How do you know somebody? You know? 136 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 4: For me just being able to continue to be around 137 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 4: the game and mentor these young ladies. 138 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 5: I love where the W is today. 139 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 4: It's in a space where so many of us when 140 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 4: the league started in ninety seven we wanted to see 141 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 4: where it is right now but didn't know if we would. 142 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 4: The fact that we now have not just female basketball players, 143 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: but we have female athletes who are signing million dollar 144 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 4: endorsement deals. True, Yeah, that's that's that's that's pretty crazy 145 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: because I don't think any of us ever thought we 146 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 4: would see that day. So other than that, I have 147 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 4: a couple of podcasts. I have my own podcasts that 148 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 4: we will actually be right here on the Dicks Sporting 149 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 4: Good stage tomorrow. 150 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 5: It's called levels to this. 151 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: We got good levels because because it's. 152 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: Levels to the stuff I won't say the other words 153 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 4: levels to the stuff. 154 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely that we go through. You're also a commentator for 155 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: the Athletes. 156 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: To United or Athletes Limited yeah, which I enjoy doing. 157 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 4: There's just so much talent out there right now, and 158 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 4: unfortunately the W doesn't have not only enough teams, but 159 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 4: doesn't have enough roster spots. So I love the fact 160 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 4: that athletes unlimited, it's another pro league. 161 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 5: It gives women an opportunity to stay here and play. 162 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 4: Right, you have unrival, which gives women another opportunity to 163 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 4: stay here and play and to make some money. Like, 164 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: I love everything about where women's sports is headed right now. 165 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I'll say, you see girls get drafted. If they're 166 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: not in the first round, you're able to get cut 167 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: like immediately, which is wild because again, you know, football 168 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: normally there's a development program the first, second, third, fourth round. 169 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: You're normally safe. Women, it's it's getting now, it's getting now. 170 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: Can you can you contend now? 171 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 4: And you know, and to be honest with you, sometimes 172 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: some of those that go in. 173 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 5: The first round get gone. 174 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 4: Yes, like but but I yes, there aren't enough teams, 175 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 4: there aren't enough roster spots. 176 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 5: But I also don't. 177 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 4: Think people truly understand the talent level that's in the W, 178 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 4: Like they're not just out there kind of going through 179 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 4: the motions like they are competing, and it's very different 180 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 4: going from college to the pros because now it's a job, right, 181 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: so you have these women coming in from college that 182 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 4: are trying to come and get your job for sure. 183 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: And so trades that happened. You know, see my girl 184 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: Sophie Cunningham go from the Mercury. Now she's over Indiana, 185 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: we pick up. So I'm not like, you know, I'm like, 186 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: I'm just it. 187 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 4: Was, you know, the free agency, the moves, all the 188 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 4: things that happened this offseason in the wh it was 189 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 4: it was interesting. I would say that it was some 190 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 4: very interesting moves that happened in the w and BA 191 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 4: this offseason. 192 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 5: That part, but I'm here for it. 193 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: That being said, we have focusing on basketball again. 194 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: Just thinking about two years ago we started implementing what 195 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: is it, the Commissioner's. 196 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: Cup, Right, how does how does that even work? Like 197 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: I clearly don't understand. 198 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 2: You've got you've got a finals, but you've got it 199 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: in seasons. 200 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: Well, you know, like it's played like as football. 201 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like, okay, they need something to play 202 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: with because there's eighty two games or you know for 203 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: the WBA there's a little less. 204 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: But you were having in season playoff for a playoff 205 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: to come up. 206 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 5: In season tournament. 207 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: There we go. 208 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 4: So I actually believe the w started the Commissioner's Cup 209 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 4: before the NBA started their inn season tournament. So I 210 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: think the NBA looked at the Commissioner's Cup and said, oh, 211 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: they may have something here, so let's try it. Right, 212 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 4: It's it is different from what the men are doing. 213 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 4: But what I love about it is, yeah, we don't 214 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 4: play as many games, but they're still playing for a bag. 215 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 5: Like you put some money on the line. They want 216 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 5: to compete and play hard. 217 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 4: And what I love about this year is you have 218 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 4: Minnesota who's gonna try and defend their Commissioner's Cup title, 219 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 4: playing against a new team in the finals, the Indiana Fever. 220 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: And I'll just be reading a room for an afeast 221 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: of the whole way. Come on, man like that. 222 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 4: If I had to, if I got to vote, and 223 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 4: I had to vote today, it's her. 224 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 5: He is by far the m v P right now. 225 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: I don't know enough to call her feet, So she's 226 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: in the feast of the met. 227 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 5: M VP right now. 228 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely, just say, Minnesota, Lynks, that's just so great that 229 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: they're sort of back in the revolution to I mean 230 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 2: back in twenty eleven when I got drafted. You can, 231 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: I can vividly remember being in Bristol and seeing the 232 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: w n B A draft in Maya more being drafted 233 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: that year, right, yeah, fifteen years later. 234 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: Crazy, but they're they're they're back in contention. You know. 235 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: It's just a full circle situation where the winner of 236 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: the Commissioner's Cup gets five hundred grand. 237 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 5: Plus they split it. Okay, yeah, I saw that number. 238 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: I say, is that for every player? 239 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 5: Man, they ain't got that kind of money? 240 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: Okay, cool? Cool, Google realistic, realistic. 241 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 5: Eleven players to split five hundred k. 242 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, forty five, forty eight something around there. 243 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, plus plus another five bands and cryptocurrency which kept pooon. 244 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you to get some bigcoin, but 245 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: it could. 246 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 5: Poom get to bitcoin. 247 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right. 248 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: We're not here to push that right now. Think about 249 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: just what we're talking about. Who wait, who won the 250 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 2: I'll say nd season tournament really doesn't lead to who's 251 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 2: gonna win the championship though. NBA we had Milwaukee win 252 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: the n season championship and they're not even no, Yeah, 253 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: so it's not indicative of what what was coming up. 254 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: I think Lakers won the n season championship and we 255 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: know they didn't make it. Sorry, I'm a Laker hater 256 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: for any fans out there. 257 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 5: I'm the Laker fans right here. 258 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're in New York. We should be safe because 259 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm a Laker hater for sure. 260 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 5: I like, I don't say any Laker fans right here. 261 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you said when you said, uh, when you 262 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: said the w n b A was going through was 263 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: going through a movement, what did you mean by that 264 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: when you say they had in the right direction? 265 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 5: I'm sorry I had to acknowledge her T shirt because 266 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 5: I love that. I like that shot. I'm sorry none 267 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 5: of earlier. 268 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: You said WBA was going through a movement and you 269 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: like where it was headed. When you said movement, what 270 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 2: did you mean by that? 271 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: Per se? 272 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 5: Well, I mean listen when the. 273 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 4: So I keep up with how old the league is 274 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 4: because my son will be twenty eight in June. 275 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 5: So when I gave birth to my son, it was 276 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 5: the first game in the WNBA. 277 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 4: And like I tell people this all the time, the talent, 278 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: to me, the talent has always been good. The difference 279 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 4: today is there are way more eyes on the league, 280 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 4: way more eyes on the league, way more fans in 281 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 4: the league. Just the competitiveness that these ladies are showing 282 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 4: every single game, day in day out. 283 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 5: I think when I. 284 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 4: Say, it's not a moment, it's a movement, Like people 285 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 4: are actually excited to watch and tune. 286 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 5: In to the WNBA. 287 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 4: Anytime you have seeing inn first take any of those 288 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 4: leading off with something that has to. 289 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 5: Do with the WNBA. 290 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people would say, then we've made it, 291 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 4: And I say, unfortunately, right, it takes things like that 292 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 4: for people to talk about the WNBA, for people to say, oh, 293 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 4: let me tune in, let me check it out. But 294 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 4: I will say this, I love everything about where the 295 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 4: game is, where it's headed. I love the competitiveness. I 296 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 4: love the physicality. 297 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 5: Of the game. Like that's a whole different conversation we 298 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 5: can have. 299 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 4: Like then, physical in the WNBA is nothing new, Like 300 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 4: it's it's. 301 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 5: It's always been that way. 302 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 4: My question is why is it okay for the men 303 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 4: to be physical but it's not okay for the women 304 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 4: to be physical? 305 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 5: I don't know. 306 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: Look, I've been watching games as far back as like 307 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: Britney Grinder's rookie year almost said freshman year, so that 308 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: it's make enough sense. But you know, like she's always 309 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 2: been physical to play with. So I don't I don't 310 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 2: know our Mercury basketball, we don't play that. We play 311 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 2: physical out there, Mercury. 312 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 5: What you're talking about today's Mercury. Yeah, I mean before 313 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 5: Mercury right now? Now because both of them, do y'all 314 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 5: have a T on your team? Now, y'all play physical absolutely? 315 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,359 Speaker 1: Then we had d T on the team too, like Diana. 316 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 5: Who plays physical absolutely. 317 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 4: But I would say this, I don't know if people 318 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 4: and I'll say like the new fans, I don't know 319 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 4: if people truly understand the difference though, in being physical 320 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 4: and being dirty, because it's different. 321 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: It's a fine line. There is a difference, but there's 322 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: a fine line. You think about the Cherry Pistons, bad 323 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: boys back in the gap. 324 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: Label them what they were. 325 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 5: They were, they were dirty, all right. 326 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: Cool, as long as you said it. I got I 327 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: got people out there that I always ride from, like 328 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: many exactly perfect. I'm a transition to cut to some 329 00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: fan questions. 330 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: Knew he was coming in. Put it out. Ig Ig 331 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: has a couple of responses. So I only have a 332 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: couple of questions for you from the fans. Knock them 333 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: out from the fans. 334 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: Let's see what memory do you go back to most 335 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: from your playing days where you need to pick me up. 336 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 5: I used to be a buth hot no when I 337 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 5: need to pick me up. 338 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I crossed over. 339 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 4: No for me, like the fact that with Houston we 340 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 4: won the very first four championships, like in a row. 341 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 4: I don't care what sport it is, male, female, Like, like, 342 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 4: that's hard to do. 343 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 5: It's hard to win one championship, let alone. 344 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 4: And then so when when I go back and I 345 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 4: think about my playing days, I absolutely have to think 346 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 4: about what we were able to do the first four 347 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 4: years in the w n. 348 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 5: B A and and winning four championships. 349 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: I love that because I like, you still wear your 350 00:15:59,320 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: rhetoring the more. 351 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: When I went to Super Bowl with the Saints, the 352 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: wedding ring goes and Upper places it, and I'm like, 353 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm married, but you gotta watch my ring though, 354 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: Like I can't. 355 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 5: You get the rings to go on different fingers. 356 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: All right, So I just need to start off with 357 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: the one I don't. I don't know about multiple fingers. 358 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: Come on, come on, smister Ratler, come on, Tyler shuck. 359 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: We can do it. Looking looking back, how surreal doesn't. 360 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: Feel to be in the position you are in now, Legend, 361 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, multiple championship winner. 362 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 5: I'm I'm very I'm very blessed. 363 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 4: I will tell you that I don't know, like I 364 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 4: don't know if I ever thought basketball would. 365 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 5: Like change my life, right. I never set. 366 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 4: Out playing the game to be a legend, per se. 367 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 4: I played the game because I loved it. There was 368 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 4: there was something about me and a basketball, and it didn't. 369 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 5: Have to have anyone else on the court. 370 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: I just really enjoyed what I was able to do 371 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 4: with the basketball. 372 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 5: I will say to to sit here today. 373 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 4: And watch the game and watch the amazing, incredible talent 374 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 4: that continues to come through the league, I'm I'm I'm honored. 375 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 4: Like I'm honored that a lot of these players still, 376 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 4: you know, reach out to me and they want to 377 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 4: talk to me. And you know, Asia a couple of 378 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 4: years ago, was like, how did you how tell me? 379 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 4: How did you do it? How did you repeat? It's 380 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 4: it's just a great feeling to know that you're you're 381 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 4: appreciated for what you gave to the game, and the 382 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 4: fans continue to. 383 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 5: Appreciate you for that. 384 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, there are some who are like, who, well, 385 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 4: they're just haters. 386 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: Haters. 387 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 2: You know, you winning a championship at every level, high school, 388 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: you know, national champions at Texas Tech, multiple championships in 389 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 2: the w NBA. That competitive drive has that always been 390 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: there where you was always like the first in line, 391 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: like at the front, like, yeah, I'll beat you here, 392 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: like you have you know, like, tell me how either 393 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 2: tell me how you got your competitive drive? 394 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: How you got that? I need it. 395 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 4: I grew up with with two I have two older 396 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 4: brothers and a younger brother, so I was the only 397 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 4: girl and I got beat up all the time. 398 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 5: And you know, the only way my mom. 399 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 4: Would let me go do stuff is if I was 400 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 4: going to do it with my brothers. But I think 401 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 4: for me, it was just something that at a very 402 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 4: young age was instilled in me and watching my brothers, 403 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 4: but also watching how just watching my mom. My mom 404 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 4: played softball. But I always wanted to be the best 405 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 4: like whatever I was doing, and I was never okay 406 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 4: with just being okay. So I always thought there was 407 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 4: somebody somewhere in this world that was working a little 408 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 4: bit harder than me, and that never sat right with 409 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 4: me because I wanted to be the absolute best at 410 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 4: everything I did. 411 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: I hear that part like this, That's why I enjoy 412 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: like those dog days of training when you're like you 413 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: got nothing left. 414 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: And you're like, you know what, there's probably some little. 415 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: Nil talented kid out there grinding right now trying to 416 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: get a bigger bag. I'm gonna hit this last extra sprint. 417 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 5: NIL very different. 418 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm clearly. 419 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 2: Laughing at that part because they don't get it like 420 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: we used to. I'm not gonna lie to. NIL has 421 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: made the game softer, and. 422 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm here for it. I'm like, oh, you got a adversity, 423 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: you're hurting, You're gonna transfer? Cool? No, I stuck mine 424 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: out about that. I love it. 425 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: I pay the players now, they just pay them what 426 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: they owe, Like I hate that I had to struggle 427 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: through college and like become a bouncer and become a 428 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: peer advisor. 429 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: There was other jobs, Like if I could have just focused. 430 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: On football, I would have loved it, But at the 431 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 2: same time, it also defined what I what I felt 432 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: like I needed. 433 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 5: But do you do. 434 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 4: You think, because I love it too to a certain degree, 435 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 4: do you think it's changed the. 436 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: Game, Because there's always there's always been. 437 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: You've always had teammates that did it for the love 438 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: of the money, or the love of the adolation, the 439 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: exactly the adilation, the adoration, the statistics of it. All 440 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 2: that drop statistics long before they drop hey, I'm actually 441 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: a good team player, like man, I dropped twenty oh 442 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 2: man a masco of four touchdowns. But they don't say hey, 443 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: like I made my teammates better, or they always like, 444 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 2: oh man, I hate bruh. Like you know what I'm saying. 445 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 2: I went for two tuddies whatever it is. I was like, 446 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: I got this contract coming up. You can feel the 447 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: money grabbers, the attention grabbers, but I want real football players. 448 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 2: And then il sort of like weans that out. It 449 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: shows you who you are at eighteen nineteen twenty. You 450 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 2: give a kid, I'm not gonna put nose on it, 451 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: but you see you seet on numbers at getting you 452 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: get a kid like that. It shows me if you're 453 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: willing to work or you're working for the money. If 454 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: you're working for the money, take it and go. 455 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: Weed them out now. 456 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 2: But if you're here for the game, the money is cool. 457 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 2: I love that I can take care of my mom. 458 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: I love that I can take care of my family. 459 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: That's great. But I'm here because I want to be here. 460 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: I'm here because I feel like I can be the best, 461 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: and I want to be the best, and to be 462 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: the best, I don't need I don't need bread. I 463 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: appreciate the breads and I have to worry about feeding 464 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: the film. But I'm here for the sacks. I'm here 465 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: for the winds. I'm here for making my teammates better 466 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: and hoping that they want to be like me. Because 467 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 2: if I'm out here running my ad, their air off, 468 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 2: poster ear off, if I'm grinding the way I am, 469 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: I want you to see it and be like, dang, 470 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: that's what he's doing to get to where he got, 471 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: that's how he's all pro Well, Dang, if I he's. 472 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: Doing that, I can beat him. No you can't. And 473 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: if you can't, come show me. 474 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: And I still like I have that, like I need that, 475 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: and I'm trying to steal that in the next wave 476 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: of kids. 477 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: You don't see it like that. They're like, oh yeah, 478 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm getting a big dog. 479 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 4: But yeah, but that but you're talking about as a professional. 480 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 481 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 4: But to me when I think about nil, right, and 482 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 4: it might feel a little different on the women's side 483 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 4: because now when it comes to recruiting, like one of 484 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 4: the first questions is how much money you got? 485 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: I need my money? 486 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 487 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: So that is that from the kids or the parents? 488 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 5: Oh? I think it's both. I definitely think it's the parents. 489 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 4: It's like, no, you're gonna go over here because they're 490 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 4: gonna pay you five hundred thousand more than this school and. 491 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 5: They don't care about playing time. 492 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 4: Is it a good fit for you? Are you a 493 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 4: good fit for them? How is the coaching staff? I 494 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 4: just I do. I honestly do think the nil situation 495 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 4: it has changed the collegiate game. 496 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, there's there's no they're pro ams. I 497 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: mean they're really they're really pro. They're getting paid to produce. 498 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 5: So so how so how excited go bears? 499 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah? 500 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 5: So? 501 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 4: How how excited do you think it makes the players 502 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 4: who are making all this money in college now they're 503 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 4: going pro right? 504 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: Taking a pay cut sometimes? 505 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, especial especially on the women's side. 506 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 2: But I mean, the odds of you making out. Are 507 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: you doing what you're doing that's completely different, Like you 508 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: had everything stacked against you, and yeah, when you came out, 509 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: everybody was like she could be she really play the NBA. 510 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: Seryf soops is like that, stay tuned, we'll be right back. 511 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: You played. You played a one on one game with 512 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. I still want to talk about. 513 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 5: It, like he played one on one game with me. 514 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: Continue and that's why she's her. Okay, no, let. 515 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 4: You Michael Jordan was my role model growing up. 516 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 5: Let let me say this. I do not now. 517 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 4: I do not think I could have played in the NBA. 518 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: Huh. 519 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 4: It's it's just it's not to take anything away from 520 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 4: like the game and the talent, but it's it's different. 521 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 4: Like man, y'all are just built different than we are, 522 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 4: Like you're naturally bigger, stronger, taller, all those things, not 523 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 4: more skilled, but all the other things as you are. 524 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 4: But Michael Jordan for me was everything like he is 525 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 4: my goat. He's yes, he will forever be my goat. 526 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 4: But what what I really appreciated about mj was it 527 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 4: didn't matter if you were his teammate or not, what 528 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 4: sport he was playing, like he was coming for your neck. 529 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 4: Just very competitive, and if you watch the documentary, you 530 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 4: know a lot of people were like, dang, I had 531 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 4: no idea. 532 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 5: He was like I was out. 533 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: There taking money from the little little assistant guards facts. 534 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 4: You know, because Mike had the mentality, does that mean 535 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 4: you played for money? 536 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 5: Play for money. I ain't had no money to be playing. Now. 537 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 5: We played for pride. We played for pride. 538 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: There we go. 539 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 4: But I just I left his mindset of if you're 540 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 4: not helping me, you're in the way, right Like I'm 541 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 4: trying to go get a championship every single year, and 542 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 4: whether that's a team made or an opponent, you're in 543 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 4: my way. 544 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 5: And that was never okay. 545 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 4: But for me to have an opportunity to meet him, 546 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 4: oh gosh, that was so many years ago and play. 547 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 5: One on one with him. 548 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 4: Is absolutely at the top of my damn. I can't 549 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 4: believe I did that. 550 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: You said he played with you, which let me know 551 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: you won. That's a bragging right right there, Like you 552 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: run me. 553 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 5: That didn't Okay, I didn't. 554 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: He did. 555 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 4: He did try to dunk on me, though I didn't. 556 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 4: That happened, okay, cool, cool that pride. No, I just 557 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 4: grabbed him out of the air and just pulled him 558 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 4: out of the air, like, Mike, I love you and I. 559 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: Don't want to hurt you. Don't do this. 560 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 5: The pride. The pride would not let that happen. 561 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: All right, did y'all? Do y'all at least do like 562 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: a jersey swap, Like. 563 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 5: I got his T shirt. 564 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: There we go. 565 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 4: I got his North Carolina one of his favorite North 566 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 4: Carolina T shirts. 567 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: Great, okay, yeah, look that's what I'm saying, because it 568 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: was like, fine, No. 569 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 5: That thing that makes a person it is Michael Jordan. 570 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: You said he's your goat. 571 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 5: It is Michael Jordan. What's your goat? 572 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: Huh what? I'm sponsored by Jordan? 573 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: So I will only have one answer, Thank you Michael 574 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: for all the goods up over the years. 575 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I will. I will never say anything. 576 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 5: Other otherwise, who's your second goat? 577 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: Because I didn't get to watch two three growing up. 578 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 2: I watched four or five at the Wizards, so I 579 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: saw the. 580 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: Tail end like I didn't so his farewell game. 581 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 2: I didn't see it like I saw Kobe's farewell game 582 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 2: where he dropped sixty and I'm a Laker hater. I 583 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, you know, I see Lebron at forty 584 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: still dunking on Cats, is doing Yeah, he's like forty five, 585 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 2: playing with this kid like yaming on Cats and still 586 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: one of the better guys on his team. So I like, 587 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: I mean second place, Yeah, second place is what's Lebron 588 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 2: leaves the Lakers. I'll say it's Lebron. I'm a Laker hater, 589 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: so I just I can't anoint the Lakers cat I 590 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 2: say here and Steve Nash, I'm clearly a Suns fan. 591 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:08,959 Speaker 2: I'm jaded, and that's okay. Yeah, Chris Paul worms Yeah, 592 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: for sure for impact, for impact alone, nobody has ever 593 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 2: had more hype around and delivered more like you. Normally 594 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 2: you're a number one overall pick. You're like, yo, he's 595 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: gonna be a consensus Hall of Famer. But we've been 596 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 2: saying that about Lebron since he was like fourteen and 597 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: everything that we was like, he's gonna win a championship 598 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 2: in Cleveland. I'm sure he didn't do it the first time, 599 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: but he rounded back. Yeah, Hey, you know what I 600 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: got for you this dub. Yeah, and so like once again, 601 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: once he leaves the Lakers, I'll be I'll be back 602 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: on the he's the second greatest of all time, and 603 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: we can argue years and years around. Once he finishes 604 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 2: in the gold conversation, he can't be a goat because 605 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: he hasn't finished yet. Once we finish, say that again, 606 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 2: like he's still current, so like, once he finishes and 607 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 2: then he like established, we know the whole story of 608 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,239 Speaker 2: the of the legacy, we'll talk about it. 609 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 4: That's so so that that's what I think. I think 610 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 4: we use the term go way too. 611 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: Oh we throw that are easy, like. 612 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 5: Everybody's a goat nowadays. 613 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 2: And generational talent, the bane of my the crooks of 614 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: my bane, like just yeah, like, don't throw generational out there. 615 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: Generational is once every generation, once every twenty to thirty, 616 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 2: like a cycle like fifteen to twenty years. You can 617 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 2: be generational, but we throw that out there a lot 618 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: all the time. 619 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 4: And my thing is, you can be a really good player, 620 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 4: but if you're to your point, if you're still playing 621 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 4: the game, I don't know how you can be the goat. 622 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 2: Right, greatest of all time? Currently, Good to see you, silent, 623 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: oh man, you. 624 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 5: Ac to see your silentce. That was good. 625 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, you know, I think at this is 626 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: a great time I thought about this. I was like, 627 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: I was looking at your shoes, looking at my shoes, 628 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: but you used to have your own signature shoe. 629 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 5: I did, did I did Swoop? 630 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? What is that? What does that feel like? I 631 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: ain't even had them. I ain't even have my own 632 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: color way before. 633 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: I've got like I've got like Jordan cleet pees, but 634 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: pees are not your own cleat. 635 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: It's on a one, it's on a twelve, it's on 636 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: But people. 637 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 5: Don't People don't understand that. 638 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 4: Like when you talk about signature shoes and having your 639 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 4: own shoe, that means it's your shoe with your name. 640 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 4: So at the time when I got my shoe, it 641 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 4: was Michael Jordan and Cheryl. 642 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: Swoops indeed, And. 643 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 4: I don't know, it was like a surreal moment for 644 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 4: me because I never, like growing up, I never said 645 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 4: someday I'll have my own shoe. That wasn't something that 646 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 4: was on my bucket list or something that I wrote down. 647 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 4: But I have to say, being not only being the 648 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 4: first female WNBA basketball player to have a signature shoe, 649 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 4: but to be the first black female there's something special 650 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 4: about at and now thirty years later, we have the 651 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 4: second black woman in Asia Wilson and her a ones 652 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 4: for me to still be around to see it, and 653 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 4: to me, what makes this so special and different is 654 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,479 Speaker 4: it's not just a shoe, Like Asia has an entire line. 655 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 4: She has the flip flop, she has the leggings, the shorts, 656 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 4: the hoodies, the T shirts, the all the. 657 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 5: Things she has the amazing commercial. 658 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 4: I just love to see how far the game has come, 659 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 4: how far it's grown, and the fact that the shoe 660 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 4: is made big enough for men to be able to 661 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 4: wear it. When when Nike did my shoe back in 662 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety seven, they only made it up to a 663 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 4: women's size eleven, so men couldn't wear the shoe. But 664 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 4: it was just such an incredible moment and a special 665 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 4: moment to do something out of the box that had 666 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 4: never been done before. And now to see how far 667 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 4: we've come with so many females now having their own 668 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 4: signature shoe, not a pe, but their own signature shoe, 669 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 4: right like the growth of. 670 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 5: The game, it's we're just in a good place. 671 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: I'll say it sellout crowds now, it's it's a fun time. 672 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 2: I remember going to games when I was younger, it 673 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: wasn't like that. And now that I can bring the 674 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: whole family, you know, now it's it's very family friendly 675 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: to be a to be a to be a beans 676 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: you know, don't do this, we'll talk about you know, 677 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 2: but that's okay, Like it's very family like if they want, 678 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: like they want families to be there. Now they want 679 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 2: the game to be more integrally like inclusive of of like, oh, 680 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: these girls are getting it and let's highlight these women. 681 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: And now I mean probably like prominent. 682 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: Social media has helped in a large way, sure, for sure, 683 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: but it's also just like now you know your actual players, 684 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: like we could talk about multiple players instead of like, 685 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: oh I know Ryl, I know who else I know, 686 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,239 Speaker 2: Like there's like, instead of a Marquee player, now you 687 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: know a team. 688 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 4: Well, it's it's everything from from social media. So fans 689 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 4: feel like they have a connection with you, like fans 690 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 4: feel like I know who you are through social media. 691 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 4: But then it's also you bring your fan base from college, 692 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 4: so they're gonna follow you. But to me, one of 693 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 4: the biggest differences besides social. 694 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 5: Media is the games are now on. 695 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 4: Television, They're in places where you can find them easily. 696 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 4: Like back in the day when I played, we were 697 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 4: on Lifetime. 698 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: Don't la okayan. 699 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: Like I gotta, I gotta, I got a grandma. We 700 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 2: susedd we should say a Lifetime. You know that was 701 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 2: all where all her movies came on Lifetime or Hallmark Originals, 702 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: you know, like it was that was that was that era. 703 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 4: Listen and I'm like, we went from Lifetime to ESPN, ABC, 704 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 4: ESPN two. Now we are on Ion, so you can 705 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,719 Speaker 4: get some you can get your Chicago PD and then 706 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 4: you can go watch some w n B. 707 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: A see. That's Look, that's how much the game has evolved. 708 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: I mean, speaking of evolution and just reactions to that 709 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 2: new question would could be hot incoming. I love doing 710 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: this live because I need to know what do you 711 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: think about this picture? 712 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: Coming up? Look up? Look up behind you? Yeah, go 713 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: ahead check it out. I come on, Ma, I'm just saying, 714 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: how do you how do you? How do you feel 715 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: about this picture? Yeah? 716 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 5: Come on man? 717 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: Nostalgia nostalgia dons Daley. 718 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 5: You know that was a Caroli head coach before or 719 00:33:58,760 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 5: after the ninety six. 720 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: Eleve just obtaining another goal, hanging out with Martin. 721 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 4: It was a fun time. I would tell you that much. 722 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 4: It was a fun time to hang out, and they 723 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 4: still show it. 724 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 725 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 5: I said that you see it. 726 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: Huh, that's what I'm saying. 727 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 2: You was on Martin Man like in the nineties, that big, 728 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 2: that's that's legendary. Yeah, you didn't think you see that today? No, 729 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: how to make you feel you remember that one? 730 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 4: It took me back a little bit. I every time 731 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 4: I see different pictures, the first thing I look at 732 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 4: is my hairstyle, and I'm like, what was I thinking 733 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 4: in that picture? 734 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 5: But that that hairstyles? 735 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 4: Alright, Yeah, that's why I didn't want to look I 736 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 4: was like, what picture is this gonna be? 737 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: You know? Fine? 738 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 5: I love your hair, by the way, I appreciate it. 739 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 2: I hate it, but like you hate it, you don't 740 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 2: have to love every hairstyle you do. 741 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I was. 742 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: I was on the other cusp of cutting it off, 743 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 2: and I was like, you know what I was watching. 744 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 2: I was like three episodes into the House of Dragons 745 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 2: and you know, Corlis with Valeria. 746 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: Came through and I was like, hell yeah, brother, I 747 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: was like, how do we do that? And I was 748 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: like I don't. 749 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 2: So I went to the white wife. I was like, 750 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: I was like, you got a hair dresser, right, and 751 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 2: she was like she was like yeah. I was like, 752 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 2: I was like, let me do that, and so we 753 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 2: bleased it and then and then I was like I 754 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 2: don't like this, and then we were platinum. 755 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: She's like, I was like, plantinum silver. I was like, 756 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: come on, I want to write a dragon. 757 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 5: I appreciate that it looks. 758 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I appreciate that. So when you talk 759 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 2: about you didn't like your hairstyle, Martin, I was like, 760 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 2: what do you mean? 761 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: Like you? 762 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 2: I'm here, so like, can we bring back the picture? 763 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 2: Can we bring back this picture? You tell me what 764 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 2: I missed on this, this hairstyle? What you mean you 765 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 2: was glowed? Unless Martin roasted you? Like he roast you 766 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 2: for this? 767 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 4: So like, okay, but there there are some pictures out there. 768 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 2: That didn't not that the episode you had your girls 769 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 2: with you, there's Martin. Martin's roasted everybody back in the 770 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 2: gay Did you roast him? 771 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: Did he roast you? Do you remember the episode? Was there? 772 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: Was there good? Was there a good dinner? After no? 773 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 5: We hung out? It had a good time. That's all 774 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 5: I'll say. 775 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: Wow, was it actually shot in Detroit or was that 776 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: shot in la like. 777 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 5: Shot in l A. 778 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we just hung out. 779 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 5: We actually hung out at his house like all of us. 780 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 5: We had a good time. 781 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll tell you. 782 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 4: The funniest part about shooting this was and if if 783 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 4: any of you have seen the episode so like Cole, yeah, 784 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 4: completely went off script when he was guarding me. 785 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 5: If you remember that party was up top of the No. 786 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 4: He actually no, he actually licked me in my ear 787 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 4: and nowhere was that. 788 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 1: In the strip. 789 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody like and seen lack Cheryl's like 790 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 2: instead of instead of a land Stevenson. 791 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: Wow, he literally licked. 792 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 5: Me in my ear and was talking to me and 793 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 5: I was like. 794 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: Switch, give me Martin if you don't stop. 795 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 5: And they're like, oh, that's so good, that's so good. 796 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 5: Keep doing that. 797 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: I was like, no, it's not right, it's in my ear. 798 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 4: It was, but it was a lot of fun with 799 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 4: Cole and Tommy and Martin. 800 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 2: And Tommy who still don't know who Yeah, I say 801 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 2: recipes Tommy, but we still don't know. 802 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: If you ever had a job, yeah, you know, like yeah, okay, 803 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: I get it. 804 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 5: He didn't. They said he didn't. He didn't have a job. 805 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 2: He always had money though, fast always have money. We'll 806 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 2: shoot being in the Hall of Fame, I hope one 807 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 2: day get there. You got you got any advice or uh, 808 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 2: you know why you were giving your Hall of Fame speech? 809 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 5: What did you Just like. 810 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 2: I said, do you have any of the giving like 811 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame speech, the whole the you know, 812 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 2: the grandeur of it all, Like you've accomplished so much. 813 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I've accomplished a lot. 814 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 4: No, I think you know, the Hall of Fame is 815 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 4: like it's it's the best of the best. It's not 816 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 4: the women's it's not the it's the Hall of Fame. 817 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 5: It's the best of the best. 818 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 4: And even in preparation for my Hall of Fame speech, 819 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 4: I had all of these incredible things that I wanted 820 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 4: to say, and once I got up there, I realized 821 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 4: that for me it was gonna mean more coming from 822 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 4: my heart, Like it was just so many people along 823 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 4: the way, not necessarily on the basketball court, but just 824 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 4: so many people along the way who helped me get 825 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 4: through life right tough times, good times, who always held 826 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 4: me down, always had my back. But for me, my 827 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame speech was really easy because my mom 828 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 4: got diagnosed with colon cancer and the doctor told her 829 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 4: that she wouldn't be able to make the trip with 830 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 4: me to the Hall of Fame, and she said watch me, 831 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 4: so I'm not gonna cry. But that was the last 832 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 4: trip that my mom went with me on before she passed, 833 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 4: So it was just a full circle moment for me 834 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 4: to have her sitting front row, knowing what she was 835 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 4: dealing with. And my mom had always been my toughest critic, 836 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,479 Speaker 4: my biggest fan, my biggest supporter, So to be able 837 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 4: to share that moment with her, which is the best 838 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 4: moment ever. To share that moment with her and make 839 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 4: sure she understood how important she was in my life 840 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 4: and the role she played in my life and raising 841 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 4: me to. 842 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 5: Be the woman that I am. 843 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 4: I really don't care what else I said in that speech, 844 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 4: because that moment for me was very important. 845 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely shout out to the moms out there. 846 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 5: You know what I'm. 847 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 2: Saying, right, the people that have always been in your 848 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 2: corner of the friends, the family that uplift you, the 849 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,959 Speaker 2: athletic trainers that took care of us when we were broken. 850 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 5: You know, the all. 851 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,919 Speaker 2: Of it, the coaches and even the coaches that didn't 852 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 2: think they had an impact that actually did. 853 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 5: You know, even the coaches I didn't like. 854 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 1: I won't go that far. There's a coach I don't 855 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: like it. 856 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,439 Speaker 2: I'm okay, if if he tripped or fell in a puddle, 857 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 2: I wouldn't step on his head, but I wouldn't help 858 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 2: him up. 859 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: I probably like add water to the side. 860 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 2: In a way, you know, in a very extreme type 861 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 2: of way. 862 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 5: But I probably had a couple that I felt that 863 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 5: way about. 864 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: But it's only one in my entire time. 865 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 5: Like, I'm like, who was it? 866 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: We'll talk about it when I retire. Yeah. 867 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, In fact, I come to you and be like this, 868 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 2: my lover here tried me in so many different ways. 869 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, please do. 870 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 5: I'm going to hold you to that. 871 00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 2: This has been nothing short of amazing. So, by the way, 872 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 2: she was inducted in the twenty sixteen Hall of Fame 873 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 2: class had guys like Shock Shaquille O'Neill, y'ao mean, Alan Iverson, 874 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 2: so like with a whole bunch of him, she was 875 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 2: her you know. 876 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 5: Hope I like that. 877 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. 878 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 5: I said. 879 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 4: Then in twenty sixteen that my class was the best class. 880 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 1: I like that. 881 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 2: I think my draft class twenty eleven was the best 882 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 2: class draft class ever. 883 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 5: You're supposed to think that. 884 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it's validated, it's validated to think that. But 885 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 2: I appreciate you so much for sopping AFT. There's the 886 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 2: podcast of me. 887 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: Your host Cam Jordan is Sheryl swoops and swoops y'all like, 888 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: good look, legend. Thank you so much, Thank you,