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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is still waiting to find

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Speaker 1: out about Latyo. Welcome to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis. I come

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Speaker 1: to you from the virtual room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Greg Rosenthal. What is up the boys? Hey? Dan?

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I try to figure out what the money tag is,

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Speaker 1: but then I figured there's more important things to talk about,

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Speaker 1: So you just leave it. You take the l personally

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Speaker 1: and you get onto the business at hand, which is

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Speaker 1: week three Sunday in the NFL. And isn't it strange? Boys?

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Speaker 1: When you take the Ravens and Chiefs out of the mix,

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Speaker 1: they play, of course on Monday Night, big spot for

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Speaker 1: Brian Greasy there who dog? Doesn't it how wide open

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Speaker 1: the league feels through three Sundays when you take those

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Speaker 1: Juggernauts out, Like I mean, there are some truly wretched teams,

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Speaker 1: but even the three and oh teams, you could definitely

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Speaker 1: make cases against those teams for various reasons, and then

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Speaker 1: everybody else is kind of fighting it out. Uh. This

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Speaker 1: seems like, uh, in what's been a weird year, we

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Speaker 1: could have a wild season. Yeah, It's it's like you know,

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Speaker 1: mom and dad went away for the weekend, and you know,

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Speaker 1: the teenage sons and daughters think that they are full

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Speaker 1: fledged adults, ready to you know, flex their muscles and

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Speaker 1: show their wares. But um, mommy and Daddy will return.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'd tell you. It's all I'd say, who's

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Speaker 1: mommy and who's daddy. I guess we'll find out. We'll

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Speaker 1: find out tomorrow. I mean it also, it also depends

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Speaker 1: what kind of relationship that is. I mean, in some

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Speaker 1: who's stronger, Yeah, who's to say one is the one?

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Speaker 1: The victor is this person? And you know, right you

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Speaker 1: attempted to but we got we got you out of

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Speaker 1: Interesting because last week, at this time, I would have said,

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Speaker 1: there are clearly some dominant teams running away with things,

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Speaker 1: can change a lot well, but the game's all look

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Speaker 1: striking that every games in the thirties that you know,

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Speaker 1: No lead feels safe. That the lack of penalties and

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Speaker 1: that that is what is striking The NFL cooked up

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Speaker 1: a whole new uh sport here. There's penalty thing like

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Speaker 1: interesting because it reminds me of last season when baseball

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Speaker 1: they juiced the baseballs, and they're like, oh, yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: just gonna completely change the sport by there being an

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Speaker 1: uptick of home runs by about if they really are

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Speaker 1: doing that for forty years. I mean, that's every rule

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Speaker 1: it's a big triplet era in which he wasn't happy

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Speaker 1: unless he's seventy three penalties were called. This sport had

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Speaker 1: reached a point where it wasn't even football anymore. Is

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Speaker 1: hard to walk because he couldn't get any rhythm into

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Speaker 1: like breaking records. They're just bringing it back. Penalties had

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Speaker 1: You know, call this all the time, and it's like, hey, no, no,

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Speaker 1: between undefeated teams in Orchard Park. Josh waiting. Now the snap,

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Speaker 1: I just find it so interesting that like Allen continues

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Speaker 1: I mean, Cole Beasley is making plays every week, John Brown,

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Speaker 1: say that Stefan Diggs, I mean, has been such a

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Speaker 1: no point did the Bill's defense, um look great. They

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Speaker 1: really haven't this year at all. They have been pretty mediocre.

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Speaker 1: And um, you know they would have they would have

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Speaker 1: I mean, every this game had everything with Alan though.

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Speaker 1: I mean he also had two penalties on the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: but when you come back from down, take the lead,

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Speaker 1: this one. Sony Michelle couldn't make anyone missed last week,

429
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Speaker 1: and now he gets thirteen yards a carry in this game.

430
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: That's first big place he's made since the Super Bowl.

431
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 1: You know, they they they find different ways to win game.

432
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: And you can hear Kim Newton in the in the

433
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: postgame presscomer just being like so impressed. I think they're

434
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: just like, it's a nice change of pace for him.

435
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Speaker 1: How like every else is doing things too, because you look,

436
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 1: they had Joe too, and he started center. I don't

437
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: think he's ever played center before at the pro level.

438
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: He's their franchise tag. I mean, they have one of

439
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: the best centers in the league who's now in I

440
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: are that happened since we last talk and Joe tune.

441
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,959
Speaker 1: He just moves to center. Everything's fine. You know, they

442
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: run the ball so well. Chase Winovich has turned into

443
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,959
Speaker 1: a really good player for them. I don't think it's

444
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: a great sign that he's by far the best player

445
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Speaker 1: in their front seven. I mean it's one of their

446
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 1: worst defensive front sevens. I would say you know of

447
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: the Belichick era. But but they still find ways to

448
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: make car make mistakes and those two fumbles that that

449
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: car had seemed to be mark kind of the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I see a little concerning you know, Greg, you pointed

451
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 1: out to the skill position, um, depleted skill position talent

452
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: for New England. They didn't have a wide receiver with

453
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,479
Speaker 1: more than twenty eight yards at half, and like, they

454
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: just don't have that guy they can go to. And

455
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: that's why you're leaning on suddenly Rex Burkehead who played

456
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: probably the best game he'll ever play in the NFL today,

457
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 1: But how can you count on that week to week?

458
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: I mean, they he found a way to do it. Um.

459
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 1: The Raiders to me, outside of Max Crosby just front

460
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: have a whole lot going on on defense, and uh,

461
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: you know is typical New England sort of. They choked

462
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: the life out of out of Las Vegas. Um, I

463
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: would be concerned if they have to go up against

464
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 1: the Kansas Cities and the Baltimore though. Give me, well,

465
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Speaker 1: they're playing Kansas City next week, so that that's a

466
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: tough spot for them. Um. John Gruden, by the way, uh,

467
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: you basically got on the plane when he kicked a

468
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: field goal down thirteen points on the seven yard line

469
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: on fourth and five late in the game when their

470
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: defenses was not making any stop to cut it from

471
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Speaker 1: thirteen to ten. I mean, that was they have like,

472
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Speaker 1: what what is that index? There's a Twitter account like

473
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Speaker 1: the gutless Index. I don't even know what it was.

474
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: Gutless decision. That's the most gutless decision I've seen by

475
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Speaker 1: a coach, at least in week three. The only index

476
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Speaker 1: that matters to me by Chris Wesley. Oh yeah, great

477
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: job this year. You said that Rex Burkehead or the

478
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: Atriots choked the life out of Vegas. Well, I mean,

479
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: I think Corona did that initially, but then you know,

480
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: you know, I was gonna say, it's been quite a

481
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Speaker 1: twenty for poor Vegas, but the team that plays there

482
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Speaker 1: will live for another week. All Right. We have a

483
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: bunch of cornered animal games on the schedule, Ricky, Let's

484
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: get a drop there. Let's check out the first one

485
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: from Hines Field. Then each Connor gets a block on

486
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: the flat inside the tenny inside the five touchdown James

487
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: Conner from twelve yards out, James Conner off the right side.

488
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: But I defer to my offensive lineman in the booth.

489
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: He there's a lot happened up. Matt Filer hooked when

490
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: Whitney merciless and he hooked dump and that's why James

491
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: Conner skirted outside. I can tell you Filer took no mercy.

492
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm the merciless one. Bill Hill go up and touch

493
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: Elkin with the call for w b E. I like

494
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: this steel damasheck gem Let's just play this with Steelers games.

495
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: James Conner put the Steelers ahead for good midway through

496
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. The Steelers defense smothers Deshaun Watson in

497
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: the final two quarters after the Texans quarterback had had

498
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: a really nice first half. But it was all over

499
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: after that one. The final Steelers are three and oh

500
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: for the first time in a decade, the Texans oh

501
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: and three for the second time in three years. And

502
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:36,479
Speaker 1: you'll remember, perhaps you won't that in team that's Texans

503
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 1: steven started owing three, went eleven and five. But you

504
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: know what, this feels different. Probably didn't feel too good

505
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: at own three and two thousand eighteen, but it certainly

506
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: doesn't feel good right now. And I think the most

507
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: disheartening thing about this game was the way it played out. Um,

508
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: because yes, we're all aware by this point Texans got screwed.

509
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: The scheduling gods were not fair. Chiefs Ravens Steelers weeks

510
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: one to three, those are three of the top five

511
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: teams in football, you can say, um, and they just

512
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: were outclassed in the first two weeks. But on Sunday

513
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: this did feel like the classic corner and animal game

514
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: where the team that's owing two that desperately needs the win.

515
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: They might not be better than their opponent, but they

516
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: need the game so badly they just find a way

517
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: and you maybe get behind your best player and he

518
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: gets he gets you the w desperately need. And Deshaun

519
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: Watson had thrown for over two yards in the first half.

520
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: He threw two touchdown passes. He was evading tacklers and

521
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: making all those Deshaun Watson plays. All the wide receivers

522
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: were back in the mix, and it just looked like

523
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: the Texans had a real shot and then it all

524
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: got wiped away once the Steelers changed up their defense

525
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,959
Speaker 1: a little bit, got a little more aggressive and uh

526
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 1: and from that point on it was there's nothing cooking.

527
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 1: They had uh five sacks overall, they had less than

528
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: a hundred yards total. I believe in the second half,

529
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: Houston no points and the Steelers grinded it out. Um.

530
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: Mike Hilton had an interception earlier early in the fourth

531
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Speaker 1: quarter which set up a long Pittsburgh touchdown drive that

532
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: was followed by three and out by the defense and

533
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: then another grinding drive by the Steelers that ran out

534
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: the clock and that was it. So it wasn't a

535
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: dominant effort by the Steelers. We really haven't seen that

536
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: yet from Pittsburgh. But they're three and oh and and Houston.

537
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: When you lose the when you lose the corner and

538
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: animal game and you go oh and three, you're you're

539
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: essentially on life support. And that's where they're at before

540
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: we even sniff October. It typically means dead animal. If

541
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: you lose cornered animals scenarios, they have no identity. They

542
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: second week in a row, they have no running game

543
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,719
Speaker 1: to speak of, and second week in a row they

544
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: could not stop the footprints on their back in the

545
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: second half of the game. And you're gonna think I'm

546
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: crazy because he went over a hundred yards for back

547
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: to back games. But I think James Conner is a

548
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: problem for the Steelers. UM. I think he's the slowest

549
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: starting running back in the NFL, and I think for

550
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: the last week he had a fifty yard run at

551
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: the end that padded his stats. This week, Steer's offensive

552
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: line was blowing Houston off the ball almost every fourth

553
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: quarter run, and James Conner had plenty of room to

554
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: work with. But I think you saw why they started

555
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: to get their rookie I think his name is Anthony

556
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: McFarland involved today UM for a change of pace role

557
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,479
Speaker 1: because they need a big play element. And and I

558
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: think that James Conner stats are not reflective of the

559
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: way he's playing. I mean, that's a good problem to have, though,

560
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: you know you can survive if she can. If that's

561
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: your biggest problem. Their defense puts up crooked numbers if

562
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 1: you look at kind of the The box score's an

563
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: issue here too. Their their secondary is not nearly as

564
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: good as last year. And you asked me last week

565
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: after the Broncos played them closer than one might expect

566
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: what was wrong. I went back and watched them during

567
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: the week, and Devin Bush is getting dragged around the

568
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: field by tight ends. He's a problem Joe Hayden looks

569
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: like he's lost a step um. Stephen Nelson has been

570
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: burnt a few times, Hilton. They had the intership interception

571
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: today but also got burnt by Randall Cobb. Um pass

572
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: rush is legit. I just worry about the coverage of

573
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: their secondary right. It's all pass rush. They twelve quarterback hits,

574
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: five sacks, seven tackles for loss for you know past defense,

575
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: which is partly the pass rusch. It's like that pass

576
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: rush in that offense that'll that'll beat you beat some

577
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: bad teams. They haven't played like a team I think,

578
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: off the top of my head that's how to win

579
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: this year. So they haven't really faced a tough competition

580
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: quite yet. I'd be concerned with the Texans defense. And

581
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: you know, they came in as the I think the

582
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: second or third worst defense against the run. And for

583
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: James Conners deficiencies that you point out west that might

584
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: be there, like he's still get putting up these numbers,

585
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, the Texans to me, you can't

586
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: really be you can't counting them to really run the

587
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: ball effectively and dominate that way and they and stop

588
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: the run. And I don't think oh and three, I oh,

589
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: in three against these three teams, Um, you gotta, you

590
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: gotta sort of stop yourself at the door and see,

591
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: let's see who they are, you know, a month from now.

592
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: But they're owing three for a reason too. I just

593
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: think that they're a weird team that. Uh, I don't

594
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: trust them at all. Does someone trust them to like

595
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: go on this run that they did two years ago

596
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: after that rough start? I don't, can't, you can't. I'll

597
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: give you one stat that tells the story of Sunday

598
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: and then one stat that and some of its luck.

599
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: But it's terrible. Uh if you're a Houston fan. Uh,

600
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: the exact figure is fifty one yards in the second

601
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: half today and just two for two first downs. That's

602
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: it in the final two quarters. That's a Deshaun Watson team,

603
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: UM led by Bill O'Brien, and they don't have a

604
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 1: turnover yet the season zero turns. I'm not gonna win

605
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: if you don't have an explosive offense and your defense

606
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: is only so so and maybe less than that, and

607
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: you get don't get turnovers. Look out. And in one

608
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: difference between eight, I was gonna say, between now and

609
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: is AFC South is better. I mean you have the

610
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: tight entreprene You know, the Cults are a solid team.

611
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: A f C is a completely different conference too, so

612
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: you know it's now waltzing into the a f C

613
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: title game based on a you know, eleven and five

614
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: record where you've got plenty of weaknesses. Speaking of a

615
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: f C. South teams for the lead, snap sack, kick, god,

616
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: holy five yards for the lead. Wow, it was insane.

617
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: I love the national Oh coming to the club, Mike Keith,

618
00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: you've come into tricks on us. Stephen Koskowski has offered

619
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: up the finest comeback story of this young season, from

620
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: the utter embarrassment of Week one in Denver to the

621
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: glory of Sunday six or six on field goals, including

622
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: that fifty five yard glass never a doubt to cut

623
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: through the Titans ahead for good in an eventual thirty

624
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: one to thirty win over the still windless, still cornered,

625
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: still limping Vikings. Oh you got you. I don't know.

626
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: We got to invent. We have to invent a new game.

627
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: Did you know who plays next week? The Vikings and

628
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: the Texans? Is it the rare double road kill game.

629
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: We're just like poking them with sticks. There's always one

630
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: psycho kid in the neighborhood that would be like interested

631
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: in the dead cat on the side of the road.

632
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: That's who's gonna be interesting in that game? Is that

633
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: you mark? Uh? No, I had friends, Um they got

634
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: it a this thing which was really uh I didn't

635
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: approve of, although I participated in first grade where you

636
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: take a frog. We live near a pond. You take

637
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: a frog and throw it up fifteen feet in the

638
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: air and it would land on the cement and suffer

639
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: um incredible bodily injuries. And I walked away from that

640
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 1: contest after about a week of that thinking, this doesn't

641
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: feel right in my heart, if that's what you're asking Greg.

642
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: So what happened to the rest of your future serial

643
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: killer friends? I don't know, unaccounted for, probably out on

644
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: the run. Very concerning, all right, So yeah, no real deal, Gaskowsky.

645
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: Good for you, man. It just shows you how with

646
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: kickers it's having that resiliency and that it's like a

647
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: good closer in baseball Wes. You know you need you

648
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: gotta be able to put the failure behind you, and

649
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: the mental side of it is almost as important as

650
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: what what the power in the leg, so good for him.

651
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: And as for the Vikings, I think we all have

652
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: teams that were wrong about that we feel strongly about

653
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: in late August and Earli member. For me, it's the Vikings.

654
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: I thought they were just I thought they were gonna

655
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: be a solid team. I didn't think they were super

656
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: Bowl team, but I thought they were a team that

657
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: was gonna be in the mix and uh taking a

658
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: playoff spot. But that's hard to make a case for.

659
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: And it goes back to their defense. Four and forty

660
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: six yards allowed today. I mean, you wasted. These are

661
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: the two things you wasted. Dalvin cook career best running

662
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: day a hundred and eighty six yards in a touchdown.

663
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson I talked about it last week that one

664
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: of the problems of the Vikings in the first two

665
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: weeks was the offense looked like it had a quarterback

666
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: that only trusted one guy, Adam Feeling. Well, here's Justin Jefferson.

667
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: The first round pick goes seven for one, seventy five

668
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 1: and a touchdown, and you lose because you can't get

669
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: a stop on defense for the for the life of you,

670
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: and now you're owing three with two home losses. And

671
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: it's just grim so that the Titans are three and oh. Conversely,

672
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: and they have their three wins by a grand total

673
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: of six points. So try to figure out where they

674
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: placed in the packing or that's my job as power

675
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: rankings guy. Uh so I have to figure that out

676
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: later tonight. But they are three and oh and the

677
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: Vikings are in a world of hurt at own three

678
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: with a road kill game coming up. I'll take your

679
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: closer kicker analogy one step further here Dan as a

680
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: general role, both species tend to be overrated simply due

681
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: to their usage. But the exception is that a lights

682
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: out closer, just like justin Tucker, is invaluable, right, just

683
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: invaluable exactly. I saw some of the quotes, and Guski

684
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: might be their m v P. By the way, or

685
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: at least Rabel's decision to keep him, uh is he

686
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: was amazing last week. I mean last week too, but

687
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: he was better from field goal range, but he had

688
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: he had two tough field goals at the end of

689
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: uh you know, the halfs and then and then today,

690
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: or at least the decision to to keep him is amazing.

691
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer, on the other hand, I think is losing

692
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: his mind. I mean, he's not a guy who handles

693
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: losing well. Um, he called their last drive that the

694
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: tech since that I mean they got the ball back

695
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: down one time and he called it chaos. And they

696
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: asked Kirk Cousins about it, and he just said, well,

697
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what he's referring to. You'll have to

698
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: ask Mike. So that that that's not great because they

699
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: never even competed in that last drive. Zimber also, you

700
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: know when they were kind of picking on his cornerbacks,

701
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: he then threw his two safeties under the bus and

702
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: saying they're biting on play action and giving up these

703
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 1: big plays. They got the big names, but they're making

704
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: big time mistakes. Talking about Anthony Harrison Harrison Smith. So

705
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: it's like it's tough times right now. I mean, the

706
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: Vikings last drive was four plays for negative fourteen yards

707
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: with an interception. What is cloudy to Kirk Cousins about

708
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: what was And I will say in the defensive Cousins,

709
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: when you go back and watch it, I don't know

710
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: what happened, but there was some type of agregious breakdown

711
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: on the offensive line in that last possession because every

712
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: he snapped the ball and he had three guys in

713
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: his face. It felt like almost immediately. Um So could

714
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: sometimes be on the quarterback to for a variety of reasons,

715
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: but it was in all phases a total breakdowns. It's

716
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: just there's no juice with this team right now. And

717
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: and like I said, when you when you get that

718
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: game from Cook, when you get Jefferson stepping up and

719
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: you're oh and two and you're at home and you

720
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: gotta leave. They had a twelve point lead in the

721
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: third quarter. You gotta win that game, and you did it,

722
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: and now you gotta pay the consequences. I enjoyed your

723
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: tweets about Jefferson because various stute he does change everything

724
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: with this offense. It's exactly what they needed. It's what

725
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: they haven't had cousins, trusting receivers, other than feeling to

726
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: even be open. Um That's exactly what this offense needed.

727
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: Do you think, though, inside the building in Minnesota, that

728
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: there are people thinking, we have got to think about

729
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. They just gave him a contract that

730
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: kind of knoked under the radar, but they just gave

731
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: him a second contract. I'm just wondering if they're what

732
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: they're thinking to kill Cousins. Maybe a second contract was unnecessary,

733
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: that was my vibe, because you could have had him

734
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: as a lame duck hub and and explored your options.

735
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: But this game was not. They had more yards in

736
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: the first half this this game than they did in

737
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: four quarters last week. And it seems like, especially if

738
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,959
Speaker 1: Jefferson is a guy who can put together multiple weeks

739
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: their offense with Gary Kubiak there, I think they're going

740
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: to be back on track. But I don't know if

741
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: there's a solution on defense. So far it is you

742
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: can't you can't just take Kevin Stefanski out of the

743
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: building and think that you're gonna, you know, seamlessly roll

744
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: into the next season as a playoff that mark, that's

745
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: a fair question about Cousins in regret, because go back

746
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: to that division championship week against the Packers when when

747
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 1: they broke Cousins, and in what four or five games

748
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: since then, they have gone like three full quarters without

749
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: moving the offense at all. It's been downright dysfunctional, and

750
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: you just don't see franchise quarterbacks go through games like that, right.

751
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: He feels like someone that could be broken. That is

752
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: sort of my concern about him versus other quarterbacks out there.

753
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: All right, let's move up. Quarterbacks break all the time.

754
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: This could be the last play of the football game.

755
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: Single high safety, perfect on the back pedal, being pressured,

756
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: throws underneath and it's caught the hook and ladder, but

757
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: it's dropped. The balls Loosi the twenty. The Panthers fall

758
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: on it, and Carolina is gonna win this football game,

759
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: the first win or no flags, the first win of

760
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: the Matt Rule era, and it comes almost three thousand

761
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: miles away from home. But what a joyous flight home

762
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: it will be for these brand new Panthers. Wake up mcmixon,

763
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: who only now I realized sounds exactly like famed wrestling

764
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 1: announcer Jim Ross, like I thought it was him. Carolina

765
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: forced three turnovers, Joey slide kick, five field goals. Man,

766
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: the Kickers have really answered after the closed door meeting

767
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: at the Kickers Club, The last two weeks have been excellent,

768
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: and the Panthers beat the Chargers sixteen, giving Matt rule.

769
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: As we heard from the Jim Ross impostor, his first

770
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: victory in the NFL mark the Panther's defense was a

771
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: mess in the first two weeks. But a date with

772
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: a rookie QB and Justin Herbert was a recipe for

773
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: getting right, I guess, and I think that'd be the

774
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: story of the game. I mean, we you could have

775
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: looked at the Panthers defense and with evidence and logic

776
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: said it was a bottom three defense in the NFL,

777
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: and that may still prove to be true. But Derrick Brown,

778
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: who had not really shown up a lot in the

779
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: first two weeks, the first round pick, played well today.

780
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: Brian Burns had a strip sack. Uh. You know, I

781
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: just Justin Herbert. I still totally believe in this quarterback.

782
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: He still does some things that just make you think

783
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: they've got something here. But you know, I would imagine

784
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: that the idea that he needs to come out and

785
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: do what he did last week and just do it

786
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: week after week. Um, it's a tall order. I Austin

787
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: Nickeler played a really good game for a part of this,

788
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: but they struggled, and you know, they're like, to me,

789
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: they're just a team that, Um they're limited, They're just limited.

790
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: I just I don't love their passing game at all. Um.

791
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: I give the Panthers a lot of credit. I mean

792
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: they this was their first win, by the way, he said,

793
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 1: of the Matt rule era, their first win in three

794
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty nine games days, So games would be notable,

795
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: games would be notable. Um dates their London game was

796
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: that the last win. It was November, I believe so.

797
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: I think it would have been a little bit after that.

798
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: But um, but Joey Sly your boy Dan um I

799
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: he took your conversation to heart. He was five for

800
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: five on field goals. He's in that. He's in that.

801
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: You know, you've got your you know your butt ker

802
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: and those guys up at the top. But creeping into that, well,

803
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: I call him those guys. He's creeping into that next

804
00:42:55,360 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: tier though. And yeah, sly Is, let me he's money

805
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: on the practice squad now, so you better not slip up.

806
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: You could almost hear it in the call though from mcmixon.

807
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean the story to me was the last two

808
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: plays of the game. Number one, you have one on

809
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: one Keenan Allen versus Trey Boston. You throw it up.

810
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: Oh you like those odds. Trey Boston makes a play.

811
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: The next play they had it. I mean, that was

812
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: the play of the year. It was all set up.

813
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: It was perfect. Ekeler scoring that touchdown. There's no one

814
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: there on the edge Keenan Allen catches it. He he

815
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: makes a bad pitch to Alan, but it was it

816
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: was drawn up perfectly. No one was really on top

817
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: of Allen. He sort of rushed the throw, you know,

818
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: like and you know this is easy for us to

819
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: say on the sideline, but it was exactly how you

820
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: draw it up. No one was really right on top

821
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: of Alan and all he has to do is complete

822
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: the pitch to Ekeler. And we are talking about that

823
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: play as one of the plays of the year. It

824
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it was right there. It is gonna be

825
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: a brutal play to watch for them the next day.

826
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: It right, It was that. It's also like that's how

827
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: you're stuck having to try to win these games. I mean,

828
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: there's just they're not a dominant team that separates from

829
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: anyone else on offense. Um. But but you know what,

830
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: like to be here in week three with Herbert as

831
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: the starter. Uh, I will see what happens with Tyrod

832
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: Taylor and Anthony Lynn and the rest of it. But

833
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: I would stick with just I just I really would

834
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: Now that and I don't know the severity of the injury.

835
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: Obviously unfortunate circumstances with a team doctor and the needle

836
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 1: and the collapse alung. But you're coming off a loss

837
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 1: now where Herbert didn't light it up. If if Ethany

838
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: Lynn wanted to show Tyrod Taylor of the respect and

839
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: maybe avoid a lawsuit, I don't know what he turned

840
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: to him. The indefinite, the the injury, the way they

841
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: talk about it, it it does not sound like something that

842
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 1: he's gonna quickly recover from. All right, Well, let's move

843
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: on more more cornered animal action. Here we go, thirty

844
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: nine yard at tip hash mark left side, Lions trying

845
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: to pick up the victory craters Ready you about to

846
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: snap there it is spots to spot kick away and

847
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 1: it is gone And the lion took one it, sir,

848
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: the lion could gone to the desert and picked up

849
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 1: victory number one. That's why you never corner a lion.

850
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: Who corners a lion batman, you're gonna get those big

851
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: old paws in the big old mouth and those angry eyes.

852
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: Matt Bright Prators game winning field goal temper is true

853
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: and the Lions beat the Cardinals. Was to snap an

854
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: eleven game losing streak that dates back to last season.

855
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford put on a clinic on the final drive

856
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: of the game Milk in the better part of five

857
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: game minutes before that game winning boot right prator who

858
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: wears an earring in one ear Greg the Lions. Everyone

859
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: associated with the Lions, including Kevin Patrick, needed this one.

860
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: They did. I mean, you don't you don't corner the lion.

861
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 1: You said, you don't qunder a panther, those big cats.

862
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: You don't corner him? Gonna do it? I shouldn't. I

863
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: saw a lion at the Santa Barbara Zoo on Saturday.

864
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: You wouldn't want to quarter that that guy. Definitely, he's

865
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: gonna come out scratching Greg. Greg. He's in a zoo,

866
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: so he's been cornered and beating a center. Actually, he

867
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: was kind of just like she just kind of just

868
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: chilling there. To be honest, it was. It was actually

869
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: a little sick. Yeah, he was sitting there, but he

870
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: was a beauty. Although all those zoologies come along the way,

871
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: especially in their exhibits where they tried at least recreate

872
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: the setting of their natural habitat compared to you go

873
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: to the old l a zoo in Griffith Park, it

874
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: basically looked like an insane asylum from the seventeen hundreds.

875
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: You'd stick and it would just be like, my goodness,

876
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: my own now at least there's no progress. I appreciate

877
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: your coming along zoo diet tribe, but I mean zoos

878
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: are still I would not call that a This was

879
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: like a rescue. It was, you know, one of those

880
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: they always say, well, we rescued him, otherwise he wouldn't.

881
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, Matthew Stafford, he can survive in

882
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: the wild. You you said it, Dan, and I thought

883
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: he was. I thought he's been a erratic um through

884
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: two and a half games. Really, this game too hasn't

885
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: been quite what you would want. Missed a lot of

886
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: throws in this game, you know, they they picked off

887
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray three times. They dropped the fourth pick. They

888
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: had great field position that they didn't take advantage of Um.

889
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: But on that drive it was like so calm, Every

890
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: decision was right. He saw where the blitz was coming from.

891
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: He had one of the prettiest throws of the year

892
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: that would have put the Lions down at the one

893
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: with just over two minutes left, called back by a

894
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: holding penalty. I mean, this was an unbelievable throw to

895
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: Marvin Hall, and you just figured, well, that's the Lions moment.

896
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: You know, that was like they were gonna win the

897
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: game and now they're gonna lose the game because of

898
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: the Lions and Stafford who has you know, I think

899
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: as many game winning comebacks in the fourth quarter is

900
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: just about anyone. Just like showed you how it's done.

901
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: They killed the clock nicely and they got out of

902
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: there in a game that I was like, frankly surprised

903
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: every time they got to stop it felt like a

904
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: little bit of a miracle. Every time they stopped the

905
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: Cardinal's offense. Wow. So that's where we are with the

906
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: Lions defense right now, because we can expect with Kenny

907
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: Golladay back that they might have a frisky offense. But

908
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: the difference between these two teams and I don't think

909
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: the Cardinals defense is very good either, but but the

910
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: Lions defense is the worst unit in this matchup. I mean,

911
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: J B. Collins made a pick Dron Harmon. Jamie Collins

912
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: really forced to turnover. So he earned his big paycheck today.

913
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: Dron Harmon, another former pat had to had to pick Murray.

914
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if he wasn't seeing the guys. That

915
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: was Brady Quinn's guess because of Murray's hest I don't know,

916
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: bad decisions. I don't know he made bad decisions. Um.

917
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: Probably the worst decision he made was late in the

918
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: game on a third and night. Again, I'm telling you

919
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,959
Speaker 1: that they had a hard time stopping the Cardinals temple

920
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: when it looked good. It looked good, but it was

921
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: just turnovers. They didn't punt till the fourth quarter. He

922
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: had a third and nine where he has Isabella wide open,

923
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: and instead he decides to throw its X the yards

924
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: down the field. Double coverage goes incomplete, and and that's

925
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: where Stafford goes and wins the game right after that.

926
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: You know, some people uh tend to miss that. Kyler

927
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: Murray is not the tallest quarterback, but because of the

928
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 1: size of his helmet, which is truly gargantuan, he appears

929
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: to be seven ft six, but when you take the

930
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: oversized helmet off, he is only four ft seven. That

931
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: is a fun fact for you guys struggling seven. I mean, man,

932
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: he his good plays, they were so good I mean

933
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: there's two touch that his rushing touchdown, the move he

934
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: put on Okuda was just outrageous, and that the throw

935
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: he had to Isabella for a touchdown was just ridiculous.

936
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: I mean, his his good plays are are just so good.

937
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: They just make you believe everything is possible. But they

938
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: they're they're not quite there. I don't think they're passing game.

939
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: By the way, it's been any better this year than

940
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: it has a year ago with DeAndre so far, I

941
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: would say it's worse. They've relied on him scrambling, and

942
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: Hopkins has had another monster game has over three hundred

943
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: fifty yards, but no one else um is above a

944
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 1: hundred or maybe Isabella just went over it. So they're

945
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: they're just a little, a little uneven. I actually thought

946
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: they looked like the Cardinals I expected, except for the

947
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: turnovers today. But that's a big except. But no one

948
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: had more than forty seven yards outside of Hopkins. But

949
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: so the Hopkins things is working. It's working out. But

950
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: you're suggesting that maybe he's that's too much attention. No, no,

951
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: just that they're passing game as a unit has not

952
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: been better this year. I don't think his Papkins's been better.

953
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: I think it'll get better, but that's not the reason

954
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: why they've been winning these games, at least the first two.

955
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: I was thinking it was going to be the ewing

956
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: theory in Houston, but it hasn't been that way so far.

957
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 1: He's been phenomenal as a scrambler, like Lamar Jackson, good

958
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: as a scrambler. But please stop talking about Kyler Murray

959
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: and m VP candidate in the same sentence. It's September.

960
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: Onet of all, and second of all, he hasn't He

961
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: hasn't passed well at all. The three picks, so we'll

962
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 1: help you out there, plus Russell Wilson's in the league.

963
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: Um Eddie Isabella, by the way, was the pick, the

964
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen trade pick, and he has gotten off to

965
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 1: a bit of a slow start, the former second round

966
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: pick by two touchdowns in this game. Uh so that

967
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: is that's a positive on the non DeAndre Hopkins beat.

968
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Good job Patra running back

969
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: is Rojoe Ronald Jones tied into motion, Brady will Thaw

970
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: a fade route near side like cowd Ball. Mike Evans

971
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: touchdown Tampa Bay Bucceteers get two catches on the end

972
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: zone from Big Mike Evans fifty two career touchdowns, and

973
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: the Bucketeers lead twenty three to three. James Dacker half

974
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: w f us with a call. Tom Brady threw three

975
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: touchdown passes, including a pair to the eternally overlooked and

976
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 1: underrated Mike Evans in my opinion anyway, and Shack Barrett

977
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: celebrated his return to Denver with two sacks, including a safety.

978
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: Sorry mark the buck win over the windless, hapless Denver Brons.

979
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: So you can corner a Bronco because the beast is

980
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: so large that it it. Putting it in a corner

981
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: essentially paralyzes it. It can't move. Hm. And if you

982
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: ever get nervous, Ricky, what do you do? You try

983
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: and get Yeah, not a cruel teeth to animals here.

984
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: West West Tampa Bay's defense against UH Jeff driscoll felt

985
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: like a mismatch. Apparently that was the case. Yeah, And

986
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: I fully expect everyone to keep talking about the Bucks

987
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: offense because of the names involved. But to me, the

988
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: more fun unit to watch and the better unit is

989
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: the defense, which for the second week in a row,

990
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: basically had a feeding frenzy at the expense of the

991
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: quarterback turnovers. Galore sacks. Um Blitz is from Todd Bowls,

992
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: which Greg always loves. He's lavante David one interception almost

993
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: had another UM Devin White turning into a great linebacker

994
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: there in the middle. This is this is a really

995
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: good defense. And in the offense you can tell they

996
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: came out trying to get Grounk involved. I think he

997
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: had like six first half targets in this game. M

998
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: h still moved the ball. This was not a game

999
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: in any way. Well, I think that was like his

1000
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: you know it is. That's my that's the feed me call,

1001
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: like you guys are gonna I'm gonna act like I

1002
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: enjoy blocking. But still a few passes coming my way.

1003
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: It would be nice. He's got to go on to

1004
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: his Instagram and scrub all mentions to his team. That's

1005
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: how I should have had a t D too, But

1006
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: Brady overthrew him in the corner of the end zone. UM,

1007
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: one of the few mistakes Brady had. Brady had a

1008
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: pretty good, pretty good day passing the ball. Well, I

1009
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: was gonna ask you us, like, where are we with

1010
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,439
Speaker 1: Tom Brady? Three weeks and where do you I know, Larry,

1011
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: where is he in your QB index? Where is he

1012
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: in your QB overall world? He was fifteen going into this. Um,

1013
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: he will climb a few spots based on what other

1014
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: people did and what he did. Um. I don't see

1015
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 1: him as a big issue like the way I see

1016
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. Physical limitations are an issue. I don't think

1017
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: Brady moves as well in the pocket as he used to,

1018
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: but he's shown that he's making the throws. Throws are

1019
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: not a problem. If I know Wes, I know UM.

1020
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: I feel like you probably like a little Antoine Winfield Jr.

1021
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: They do have some defensive backs that Bowls really knows

1022
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: how to use. Winfield Jr. And then Murphy Bunting when

1023
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: he's healthy. Carlton Davis is playing well. It's like no

1024
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: one knows these guys, but I think I think they

1025
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: will know them eventually, because I'm with you, it's early,

1026
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: but they look like one of the very best defenses

1027
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: in the league. The funny thing about the Bowls ass,

1028
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: what Greg is that you got on a little prematurely, um,

1029
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: but now riskiness. It's the aggressiveness blitz for you. You

1030
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: were like a guy that like showed up at the

1031
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: movie theater seven hours before Bad Boys three or something,

1032
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: thinking that you would need to do that and to

1033
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: get in. But it wasn't the case at all, So

1034
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: you had a front center seat. Um, but like, ultimately

1035
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: thank you, I mean the talent and the aggressiveness. He

1036
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: caused a fun game. I know it was to talking

1037
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: about at least, like if you're gonna just be on defense,

1038
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: make it fun, you know, blitz like freaking crazy. Oh

1039
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: you got Vita Vea eating like cushion berries, launch, you

1040
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: got j Jpp making no offense look like a chump.

1041
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: It's bucks defenses everywhere. Do you think that Rippian, the

1042
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 1: nephew of Mark Rippyan, will take this starting job away

1043
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: for good? Is it a ripping? Is it rip Rippian?

1044
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: He Ripping came into playing garbage time. Um, you can't

1045
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,959
Speaker 1: really it's that as much it was deep garbage time.

1046
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: There wasn't much of a pass rush. He got throws

1047
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 1: out early, but they were like four and five yards

1048
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: at a time. It's really hard to tell. Um. My

1049
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: my sense was they figured drisc wasn't moving the ball

1050
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: and he's getting killed. He's getting hit Like every series

1051
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: let's just get some data on this other guy and

1052
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 1: help us make a choice next week. But I don't

1053
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: think Ripping is like some high upside guy fam a

1054
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: super Bowl champion, Mark Rippion. I have always said Rippion.

1055
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: But I also like take that New York Times um

1056
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: survey they do about certain words and how you pronounced them,

1057
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: and realize that of America does not say words that

1058
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: I sit the way. But there is like a right

1059
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: or wrong way to say a last name, So it's

1060
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: not like it's in specialized in getting some of those

1061
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: way off. Philosophical Like Brett Farr pronounces his name incorrectly,

1062
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: But who are you to tell to him that? Thank you?

1063
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. He doesn't even know how to pronounce his name.

1064
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: All right, Let's move on. Fakefield under center. The ball

1065
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: chups it out to the left. He's getting led by

1066
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: Wyatt Teller. He's top down. Nick Chop, He's done it again.

1067
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: He is amazing. Jim Donovan, Doug Deacon. You just haven't

1068
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: heard those names a lot on this program. W k

1069
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: r K with the call. Baker Mayfield through two touchdowns.

1070
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb ran for a couple more. The Browns over

1071
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: the Washington football team playing without Marquie Beyond. The Browns

1072
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: are over five for the first time since That's crazy, um,

1073
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: Mark watching this game from afar, you see the ticker

1074
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: telling you Washington is up in the fourth quarter. I

1075
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: guess things changed under hurry huh Yeah. And to your point,

1076
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: an incredible um and incredibly depressing stat for the city

1077
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: of Cleveland was produced early in this game. That had

1078
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: been eighty four straight game that the Browns had been

1079
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: at five hundred or below five hundred. That is years. Okay,

1080
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: that is years. Uh that is that tells you a

1081
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: lot about my mood that in dealing with many of you, UM,

1082
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: over the course of half a decade. I it's not

1083
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: an excuse, it's not a fair excuse. They're better players

1084
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: are playing well right now. Miles Garrett's two straight weeks

1085
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: with a strip sack. UM in a pivotal moment. Nick Chubb,

1086
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not trying to like look at

1087
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb differently than I would other running backs. I

1088
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: just love the way that he that he operates. He's

1089
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: just fun to watch. He is a punisher. Um. They

1090
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: are lucky to have basically, UM lwered in Kareem Hunt

1091
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: and then resigned him I think at a very very

1092
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: incredibly like um affordable market value and have what I

1093
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: think is the best backfield in the NFL and Mayfield

1094
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: two games in a row. Um, it wasn't the Bengals game.

1095
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: They were not perfect, but Odell and Odell and Mayfield

1096
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: had a connection again in this game. And to me,

1097
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield played another clean game with it with with

1098
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: a with announce of confidence that I think was missing

1099
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: last year. And I think the difference is and it's

1100
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: not to pile on the Freddy Kitchens business, but they

1101
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: just seem to go into the last couple of games Baltimore,

1102
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: I think you just dealt with a super Bowl type team.

1103
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: But the last two games they just seem to be

1104
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: more organized on offense to have a plan and to

1105
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: execute it um, which is a really unusual thing for

1106
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: the Browns. And when you look at Washington, UM, Dwayne

1107
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: Haskins had three interceptions in this game and they were killer.

1108
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: You know, he just there isn't I'm not I'm not

1109
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: seeing a lot from Dwayne Haskins that points to me

1110
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: and says if there's any way that Washington has a

1111
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: chance to draft one of these quarterbacks early um next April,

1112
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: that that that, and nothing would stop them from doing it.

1113
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: It's not He's not in a great situation. He's in

1114
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: a talent poor offense UM with a new regime. But

1115
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: there's just not much there that I'm seeing and Cleveland,

1116
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: you know, are learning how to win. I don't know

1117
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: what to take away from this. I think that there

1118
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: are a team that is beating up on lesser competition

1119
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: and we'll see what they do when they face a

1120
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: real team. They played they played Dallas next week. That

1121
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: will be more of an acid test. In terms of

1122
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: their defense, which Cleveland's defense is concerning there are problems,

1123
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: they're they're banged up, but they're also just not a

1124
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: very good defense. What's really jumped out to me compared

1125
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: to last year is their offensive line and a guy

1126
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: like Wyatt Teller, who they picked up for peanuts before

1127
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: last season, and the offensive line gurus on Twitter are

1128
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: are writing him up every week talking about how improved

1129
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: he is. And he's one of the better guards in

1130
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: the NFL now, and you throw in one of the

1131
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: better centers, Joel Patonio. That is one of the best

1132
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: interior offensive lines in the NFL. There's no reason this

1133
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: team should not run every single week on defenses. And

1134
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: if you can run, then there's no reason why Baker

1135
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: Mayfield can't do play action fakes every week too, right,

1136
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: They only seem to lose their way there. They had

1137
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: a hideous third order. If you go back and watch

1138
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: this game, they got away from what they're good at.

1139
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: Just run the ball sixty times a game and see

1140
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: where it gets you. Well, that's not that's not enough

1141
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: to go as far as they want. It makes sense

1142
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: when you're going against Washington. I'm with you though. On

1143
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: the offensive line, I mean, and I was wondering if

1144
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: I've seen things that check PF. They basically have the

1145
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: best offensive line in football through PF scrading through two

1146
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: weeks in terms of the combined run blocking and pass blocking,

1147
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 1: especially run blocking, but even pass blocking, they were third.

1148
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Baker Mayfield, in your right, they gotta play

1149
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: better competition. Although Washington's defense is fine, he's in a

1150
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: he is in a great situation, and I'm I'm eager

1151
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: to see, as you say, Mark, as they kind of

1152
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: step up in competition the next few weeks. You assume

1153
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna continue to do well on offense based on

1154
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: what we're seeing from Dallas's defense. But yeah, this once

1155
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: we gotta jump up. This is a nice little pocket

1156
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: for them. Cincinnati, Washington. Uh. There, that's gonna be Uh,

1157
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a hotly. Listen, Mark, I don't know

1158
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: where you draft next Thursday, but a lot of people

1159
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: are if we want to watch that Cowboys Brown's game.

1160
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: I don't know where your pick is. What you think

1161
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: that one of you are going to be able to

1162
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: wrestle that game away from me. That's not how this works.

1163
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: Even if you pull that off on NFL network or

1164
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: wherever whatever you know platform you attempt to pull that

1165
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: off on, we will have back water talks that removed

1166
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: that game from you. In a minute. I'm planning. I'm

1167
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: planning CNN is where I planned to swipe the brand's Cowboys.

1168
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: I have another guest spot on CNN on Tuesday night,

1169
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: by the way, so please um tune in at seven

1170
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: pm Eastern. By the way, Chase Young, we you know,

1171
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: all amped up about the Washington UH front four um

1172
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: after week one he left this game in the first

1173
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: half of the groin issue he did that affected them.

1174
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: They were never the same they. I really think that

1175
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: Chase Young is such a difference maker on that defense

1176
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: when he went out, and I'm glad you brought that up.

1177
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: They were never the same Montest sweat though that guy

1178
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: had one of the better guy I don't feel like

1179
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: he been on my radar much um during his career,

1180
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: had one of the better games I've seen. He looks

1181
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: better this year. I mean, if you if you win

1182
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: the turnover battle five zero against Washington, you better went

1183
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: by all right. Let's let's move on to bleaker affairs.

1184
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: Sets up throws right side and pick for the cults.

1185
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: The cults are running the other way with it. D

1186
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: J carry carry six two of them all day down

1187
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: Why pick seven? Day the Matt Taylor, Rick Venturi, w

1188
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: F and I with the call. Sam Donald through three interceptions,

1189
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: including a pair of picks sixes, and the Colts coast

1190
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: to a thirty six to seven win. They improved the

1191
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: two and one on the young season. Philip rivers seventeen

1192
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: seventeen yards his first turnover free games since joining Indie.

1193
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: He's also now and I know this doesn't matter on

1194
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: this podcast, but it matters to me, damn it. He

1195
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: becomes the six player in league history a throw for

1196
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: four career touchdown passes and he's now over sixty thousand yards.

1197
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: The fact that they were even debating on the telecast

1198
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: on CBS whether he was a Hall of Famer for

1199
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,919
Speaker 1: all his failures to win the Big One and get

1200
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. I just think he's been one

1201
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: of the best pastors of his generation that should get

1202
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: a gold jacket. Um. You know, the Jets actually moved

1203
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: the ball well against and do you enter this week

1204
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: with the top ranked defense in the first half, but

1205
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: the wheels fell off and um, and things just kept

1206
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: getting worse. Donald look bad on the He made some

1207
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: nice plays, as he does every week where he looks good,

1208
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: and then he makes some bad decisions. And it seems

1209
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: like when he makes a bad decisions a bad decision,

1210
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: he pays for it. And the Colts secondary was all

1211
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: over him when he put balls up for grabs and

1212
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: made him pay dearly. And as if it couldn't get worse,

1213
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,439
Speaker 1: McKay Beckton, who has been really the only shining star

1214
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: uh for the Jets and what's quickly becoming what looks

1215
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: to be a one in fifteen type season, and they

1216
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: might be lucky there he leaves with a shoulder injury,

1217
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: and he never want to hear a giant tackle having

1218
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: a shoulder issue because those things tend to be issues.

1219
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: So the Jets are the worst team in football. The

1220
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: Colts took care of business as they should. There's not

1221
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: much to take out of Jets games right now. You know,

1222
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: the Jets are terrible. You know they're gonna fire their

1223
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: coach um, But I mean more from the perspective of

1224
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: the team that's playing them. Like I didn't learn really

1225
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: much from the forty Niners last week. I didn't learn

1226
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: anything from the Cults this week. Although they could bully

1227
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: a team that's um really would be relegated if the

1228
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: league was structured a different way. But nice job by

1229
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: the Cults. Got the W and stayed healthy and they

1230
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: move forward. Cults are in a weird spot after these

1231
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: two games against the Vikings where the bike I mean

1232
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: Vikings are a better team, but just the way that

1233
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: game played out. They've had a strange season. That Colts

1234
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 1: dominated Week one against the Jaguars, you know, but they

1235
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 1: found a way to lose. They've played Bay you know,

1236
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: three of the worst teams in the league. Certainly three

1237
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: of the worst defenses. Um, the way they're playing, it

1238
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: almost feels like their season hasn't started. I'm with you.

1239
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm still not exactly sure what's up with the Colts.

1240
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: But that's fine that you're two and one, that they're

1241
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: my super Bowl pick, so that when when that happens, Dan,

1242
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: then Philip Rivers will be an obvious skull jacket guy.

1243
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: What you need You think they need to he needs

1244
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl? Well, I don't know, but

1245
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: when he does, because I would do it, it's so

1246
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,439
Speaker 1: that would do it. I don't think so. I think

1247
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: it's a Hall of Famer. There are a lot of

1248
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: people who hold his many many seasons of high turnovers

1249
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: against him. Sure, sir, I mean, I mean who do

1250
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: the Jet The Jets top three receivers today were Brack's Barrios,

1251
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: Kalen Ballage, and Lawrence Cager. Yeah, there was a there

1252
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: was an epically bitter that last guy. I had to

1253
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: I had to google this first. These are guys being

1254
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: pulled off the practice squad. There was an epically bitter

1255
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: Jeck's Jets text thread that I was on with my

1256
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: uncle Stu Keith, my brother, a couple of my cousins

1257
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: and talking about all right, what are we gonna do

1258
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: with the Jets? What are we gonna do with Donald?

1259
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: And first of all, Donald can't have too many more

1260
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: of these type of games because whether it's his fault

1261
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: or not, if if things implode and they do go

1262
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: one in fifteen and he fins finishes with twenty five

1263
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: interceptions and four pick six is or something, yeah, they're

1264
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: gonna get the one pick and they're gonna feel like,

1265
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: you know what, let's just reset this thing with Trevor

1266
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: Lawrence and or whomever it is. UM. But the bigger

1267
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: of the broader picture with the Jets, UM is that

1268
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: they have so monumentally butcher these last three years that

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Speaker 1: coincided with Donald being drafted. They they have so undermined

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01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: themselves from an organizational standpoint that there is no way

1271
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: to accurately judge if Donald is good, bad, great, or terrible.

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01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: So it's a on ownership to me said that the

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01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: whole time there's been you know, to me, it's it's

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01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: a hundred percent on ownership. The way that they fired mcagnet,

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01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: the way you know, the just the sequence of events,

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01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,839
Speaker 1: how they decided to hire and fire and the decision

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01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: they made, you know, by hiring gays. This is systemic

1278
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: and it's ugly as it is, as it could be

1279
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 1: a West. That's why your tweets about Donald lately make

1280
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: me really sad, because you want so well, you want

1281
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: so much to believe that he's not the problem. He

1282
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: is fixable. And I think it's sad because he's impossible

1283
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: to evaluate. Three years into his career. You don't know

1284
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: what he is because everything Adam Gates was hired to

1285
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: develop and make sure isn't ruined is going ruined. Right,

1286
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 1: And this may work out for Sam Donald because he

1287
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: could get traded for a second or third round pick

1288
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 1: in a role to a better organization that has more

1289
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 1: around him, and he could and Jeff fans don't want

1290
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: this to happen, but he can end up having a

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01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 1: successful career elsewhere. Uh And that will all be fine

1292
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: if it goes Kyler Murray for the Jets with Trevor Lawrence.

1293
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 1: But you know what it feels like if you're a

1294
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: Jets fan. It feels like you're just gonna hit reset

1295
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: and you're gonna take out the dirty laundry and then

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01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: welcome in uh new future victims of your organization, right,

1297
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 1: because the other yeah, like the other half to like right,

1298
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: we all have a Chilly Smith ends up replacing David

1299
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: Klingler and it's you know, the same routine all over again. Right.

1300
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: The other half of Kyler Murray is Cliff Kingsbury, who

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01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 1: had who had a total conviction on what he wanted

1302
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: to have a new coach, and they'll have a new

1303
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 1: coach and games to go thirteen games ago. That's a

1304
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 1: lot of tape and and Darnald is in a tough situation,

1305
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: but I I do think there's a way for him

1306
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,799
Speaker 1: to show um what a talented player he is. Thirteen

1307
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: games is a long time here, and you're right, he

1308
01:09:58,160 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: his job and that's the only thing left for this

1309
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 1: season is he needs to convince the powers that be,

1310
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas specifically that he is the guy that the

1311
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: rebuilt should continue around. So far it's inconclusive at best.

1312
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: Let's move up. Here's a end around. Do I yoke

1313
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: with us? Check out to block and also Garland Girland

1314
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: a big time block touchdown San fran Cisco, Brandy a

1315
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: US first in the NFL. Get that rookie the rock

1316
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: and it's not even a reception Gregg Popa and Tim

1317
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: Ryan all so it's a fired up about Brandon Aiyuk

1318
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: first round pick. He let the Niners at all receiving

1319
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: categories and scored on the ground and back up Nick

1320
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: Mullins through forty three yards and to touch the Niners

1321
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: control action in all phases. Thirty six nine win at

1322
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium over the Giants. Greg this East Coast vacation, uh,

1323
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: embarrassing the Jets then the Giants. It's like, you know,

1324
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: a lot of family trips. Some bad things happened, sure,

1325
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 1: but a lot of good memories, good great memories. I mean,

1326
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: I'm so impressed with Kyle Shanahan, your boy, Mike mark

1327
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: Um when you make the case that he's like the

1328
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: best coach in the league. I mean, show these last

1329
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: two weeks. There's this game reminded me of that Bear Bryant,

1330
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean that bum Phillips quote that West likes to

1331
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: bring up every once in a while, and it was

1332
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: about Bear Bryant. But the quote was he can take

1333
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: his and beat Urine, and then he can take turn

1334
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: around and take Urine and beat his and and I

1335
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 1: and I, of course I believe that you give him,

1336
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,839
Speaker 1: you give him the Giants raster, he would have smacked

1337
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: this forty nine ers team around just like he did.

1338
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: And some people and I mentioned, going, well, they haven't

1339
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: played a real team. Give me a friend, give me

1340
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: a break with that. He's playing with like twelve or

1341
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 1: thirteen backups. He's got Nick Mollins at quarterback looking great,

1342
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: but you know, looking good by the way, making some

1343
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:52,759
Speaker 1: good plays against pressure. His entire defensive line is totally

1344
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 1: wiped out. So you gotta give credit to Robert salah Um.

1345
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: They dominated on defense too. They didn't you know, they

1346
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 1: scored every possession today. They scored every possession they the

1347
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: Giants did not get a single stop. And if they

1348
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, the forty niners, that is I think

1349
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: you look back at these two weeks, maybe what comes

1350
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: up against Miami and Philadelphia too, and it's like managing

1351
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: the schedule because a lot of these players will come back.

1352
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: You're not gonna survive forever this way. But I think

1353
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 1: that's impressive to to to embarrassed, to blow out actual

1354
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: NFL teams on the road with this array of injuries

1355
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: is something something your boy, Mark, I I am a

1356
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 1: huge Kyle Shanahan person I always will be. I don't

1357
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 1: need to go deeper into that, but he finds a way,

1358
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 1: no matter whose quarterback is, to get production. Nick Mullins

1359
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: three yards with a touchdown and no interceptions. They let

1360
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: him throw the ball thirty six times. I mean these

1361
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: New York teams, but the New York teams are not

1362
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 1: even really NFL. I get it. But okay, steel they

1363
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: played the Steelers way tough for you know the Bill.

1364
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: The Jets played the Bills way tougher. It's like the

1365
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 1: Giants were in the game last week like they're a

1366
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: professional team. The forty Niners scored every possession. I mean,

1367
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 1: all these quarterbacks that are like in year four or

1368
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 1: five or like, when will they ever show us who

1369
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 1: they are? I mean we could. There's eight of those

1370
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 1: guys incomes, Nick Mullins, Kyle Shanahan, unleashus and for thirty

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01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: six passes, sit unseen bang. I mean they dominate. They

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01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 1: dominated the Giants. I mean, what a what a what

1373
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: a statement against the Giants secondary that Charlotte and Shanahan

1374
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: looked at the tape all week and was like, oh, yeah,

1375
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: we can attack these guys with our backup quarterback and

1376
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 1: all our wide receivers heard it doesn't matter and George

1377
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: Kittle out they just I mean, they're better, coach, They're better.

1378
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 1: Where are we on the Giants? The last Joe Josh

1379
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: Jordan read today I thought was a big right on

1380
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,719
Speaker 1: the Jordan injury is right on cue. But the Jason

1381
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: always say a week two is it time for Jason

1382
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: Garrett to start getting some heat? Greggy, you want to

1383
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: take a victory because the Giants offense, isn't it Well?

1384
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: The line, the line is no better. They're right back

1385
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: to where they were. The lines been terrible the Giants

1386
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: the forty night. That was what got me. I expec

1387
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, not shocked that Shanahan came up with some

1388
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: good plays. There were open receivers. I mean, Mullins made

1389
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: a lot of plays against pressure to The Giants had

1390
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 1: more pass rushing in this game, um than the forty

1391
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: Niners probably did. But yeah, I don't know, They're just

1392
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: they they were the worst rushing team in the league

1393
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 1: with Sae Kwon Barkley, so yeah, they had seventeen yards

1394
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: rushing on ten carry. Said there was a couple of

1395
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: flukey plays. Early Jones has a bad pitch. He has

1396
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: a terrible interception which wasn't flukey to end the first half,

1397
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: and that just felt like I felt like curtains. But

1398
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 1: when your defense doesn't get a single stop all day

1399
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: against Brandon Ayuk who had over a hundred yards, you know,

1400
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,799
Speaker 1: looking good? Um, I mean that's on them. That's pathetic.

1401
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: All right, before we move on to our next game,

1402
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: it's time for the handoff. Unless Wes you want to

1403
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 1: stick around your call, we need to take it from here.

1404
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: All right, Nick Shook fresh from the gym, it's like

1405
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,759
Speaker 1: he's expected to explode out of that Nike shirt. West,

1406
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. We'll see you later in

1407
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 1: the week. Chock, looks like the Rock about to endorse

1408
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: alrights later minute. All right, Chock, welcome back to the

1409
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 1: Flagship Show. It's the start of a beautiful tradition. We

1410
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 1: had two games on the schedule with you and Sunday

1411
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 1: Night Football. Ready to dig in, buddy, Yeah, absolutely, even

1412
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: though these games were less than ideal. Alright, well we'll

1413
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 1: knock him out here we go. No, we're gonna have

1414
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: a fourth and seven personal The outcome was gonna do

1415
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 1: and this is going to be a fifty nine yard

1416
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: field goal attempt for j Kelly. Well, we've been here before.

1417
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: We've been here before. Here it is no penalty. Flag

1418
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 1: flow enough. Oh, don't tell me the Eagles are gonna

1419
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 1: I think there was movement by the Eagles, oh on

1420
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,719
Speaker 1: a field goal to win it a five yard penalty.

1421
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: I that's inexplicable. How they can't line up for a

1422
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: field goal. That's what they did. They backed Jake Elliott

1423
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 1: out of a fifty nine yard attempt. It's oh, Nick,

1424
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: Nick's getting this treatment in each week. It's not just

1425
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: that you disappointed merl Reie. I mean it disappointed the

1426
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: whole city Eagles. Jake Elliott lined up for a fifty

1427
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 1: nine yard field goal nineteen seconds left in overtime, false

1428
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: start on Matt Pryor force the Eagles to punt it away,

1429
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: punted for the tie. That's how it ended. Three kiss

1430
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:03,600
Speaker 1: your sister. Everybody loses shook. The saddest thing is the

1431
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,560
Speaker 1: Eagles needed a mini miracle just to get to this.

1432
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 1: What a disaster the Eagles have been. Yeah, I told

1433
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 1: Erica to choose that call because no moment in the

1434
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: game captured how bad of a game. It was more

1435
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,640
Speaker 1: than that, you know, you're already lining up for an

1436
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 1: improbable field goal, not impossible, but improbable, and then you

1437
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 1: immediately commit another error that then puts you out of

1438
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: field goal range, forces your coach to punt so that

1439
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: you can avoid perhaps turning the ball over near midfield

1440
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 1: and giving the Bengals a chance and then going forward

1441
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,759
Speaker 1: from there. I mean it was Carson Wentz was asleep

1442
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: at the wheel for the majority of the day. He

1443
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 1: still looked pretty bad except for that last drive that

1444
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: tied the game. It's almost like he woke up and

1445
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 1: was like, hey, oh, I gotta go seventy five yards

1446
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: here and under four minutes to tie the game. I

1447
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: could do this, and he did it just fine, and

1448
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: and it kind of illustrated that the Eagles still have

1449
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 1: some talent ability to do things. They just haven't done

1450
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: it consistently. And they couldn't do it in overtime, which is,

1451
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 1: you know, capped off by that false start penalty and

1452
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: just an ugly way. No tie has every but this

1453
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 1: is an ugly tie. I mean, they punted three times

1454
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 1: in overtime. It's not like you didn't have a ball before.

1455
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: Like I think you could criticize Peterson for not going

1456
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 1: for it on fourth and twelve because there's only nineteen

1457
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 1: seconds left that the play that play itself is gonna

1458
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: take six or seven seconds, you know, but you understand

1459
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 1: it because their offense is the worst in the league

1460
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: in terms of yards for play entering this game, and

1461
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 1: their yards will play against the Bengals defense actually went

1462
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: down and they got the ball at the forty five

1463
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: at at you know, at their own forty five with

1464
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 1: whatever it was a couple of minutes left, They only

1465
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 1: needed twenty yards to go kick a field goal with

1466
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: seconds twelve. There was nineteen left, you know when they

1467
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 1: snapped it for the for the punt, So you know

1468
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 1: it would have you know, you do the fourth and twelve,

1469
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: that takes another five or six seconds at least off

1470
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 1: the clock there there would have only been about twelve

1471
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 1: for the Bengals. They would have been at the four.

1472
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:55,719
Speaker 1: Could do you could have done a hook and ladder

1473
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: type thing that runs out the clock. You can done

1474
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: a hail Mary that's gonna take ten seconds off the

1475
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: clock and maybe you get a penalty or a catch

1476
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: and kick a field goal and win the game. He

1477
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: had no faith that there was any chance they could

1478
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: do that. And Nick, it sounds like there's there's reason

1479
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: they had no faith in Yeah, if you saw the

1480
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 1: three place prior they were crawling, I mean they basically said,

1481
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 1: you know what, Okay, we're gonna try and just get

1482
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 1: a yard here, a yard the next play and then

1483
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 1: we'll just like there's the target line overlay on the field.

1484
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: They were inching towards the target line in the final

1485
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 1: minute and a half that they couldn't get ten yards,

1486
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: get a first down and get closer. It was they were.

1487
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: They were playing not to lose in a tie game

1488
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: against the Bengals, against the surrender index, that's what it's called.

1489
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 1: I do find it. I do find it delightful that

1490
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 1: these two teams tied. Um. I don't know what the

1491
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: anniversary would be. But back when Donovan McNabb this happened

1492
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:48,839
Speaker 1: with the Eagles against the Bengals, and McNabb had admitted

1493
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 1: after the game that he had no concept of the

1494
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 1: overtime rules to begin with. I would ask you this, though, Nick,

1495
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: how did what did you see from Joe Burrow? Because

1496
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: the pressure that he is under, and I think he

1497
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 1: was he's been pressured forty two times in the last

1498
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 1: two weeks eight sacks today, like it. That was the

1499
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: huge question about his ability to you know, progress as

1500
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: a quarterback behind a terrible offensive line. They need to

1501
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: start hiring, like just to look, just find some large

1502
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 1: men in the Cincinnati area that are nimble and can move.

1503
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 1: I just I worry about him staying like staying safe

1504
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 1: in that situation. Yeah, well so I was concerned last

1505
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 1: week being at TNF and watching him drop back over

1506
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 1: and over and over again. He saw the amount of

1507
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 1: passes that he threw it. You were loving it. Yeah, sure,

1508
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's down the rock. You were like one

1509
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: of the sixteen people there. That's pretty good. But uh,

1510
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 1: I mean that the many times that he dropped back

1511
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 1: in that game, I understood because they needed to push

1512
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 1: the ball down the field to try to keep pace

1513
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 1: in the Browns offense. That wasn't the case today, and

1514
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: he still had forty four attempts. I know overtime was included,

1515
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 1: fifty two total drop backs today, the eight sacks, as

1516
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: you mentioned, mark the forty two pressures and the last

1517
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 1: two weeks split evenly, twenty one today twenty one last week.

1518
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: If you're gonna have a quarterback that you spend the

1519
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: number one pick on and you base your franchise around

1520
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 1: you have to invest in protecting him better to understand

1521
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 1: that's not all done in one off season. But how

1522
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 1: about limit the amount of times that he's gonna take

1523
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 1: shots from guys. Today he got destroyed by Malik Jackson

1524
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 1: after getting a throw off. It drew a roughing penalty.

1525
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: But I mean, I felt that here five miles away

1526
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 1: from Philadelphia, so I had can't even imagine what he

1527
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 1: felt like. It's still got it out the rest of

1528
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 1: the game. This is happening to him on a week

1529
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 1: by week basis. Now they're gonna crush the guy before

1530
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 1: they get to the end of the regular season if

1531
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 1: they don't at least try to shorten their offense or

1532
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 1: hand the ball. If you got Joe Mixon back there

1533
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 1: and you had a lead for a good amount of

1534
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 1: the second half today and still for some reason, kept

1535
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 1: trying to throw the ball down the field, You're owing

1536
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 1: to the Bengals come to your building and you're lucky

1537
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: to tie. You got half a game. You caught up

1538
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 1: a half a game in the NFC, in the worst division.

1539
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 1: NC thrilled that no fans are allowed in I mean

1540
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 1: that is why scenario where like you're thankful that Corona

1541
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 1: reared its head in March, that'd be throwing car batteries

1542
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: all right. Next, here's the snap like Eagles fans like

1543
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: the end zode how beautiful pro ballad And the Bears

1544
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 1: have the lead in Atlanta terrific come back in the

1545
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:28,799
Speaker 1: port and Anthony Mother hangs onto this one. Nick Bulls

1546
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 1: took a crunching hit as he got rid of the football.

1547
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: Oh do you have, Johnny I with the call? The Falcons,

1548
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Surrender a sixteen point lead in

1549
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 1: the final six and a half minutes of play, and

1550
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 1: the Bears get three touchdown passes from Nick Foles who

1551
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 1: came in from Mitch Trabiskie, who spanks the Bears of

1552
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 1: three and oh somehow and the Falcons oh and three

1553
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 1: become the first team in nf FELL history to lose

1554
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 1: backspack games in which it led by fifteen or more

1555
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 1: points in the final quarters. Shook. Dan Puinn has had

1556
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: eighteen lives, lives, thirty six lives, like he's like worth

1557
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 1: four cats? Where are we at here? Enough is enough?

1558
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 1: You know? He showed his frustration in the final moments.

1559
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: They had to call a time out when he knew

1560
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 1: the game was out of hand, that it was no

1561
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 1: longer in reach after two Shawn Gibson's interception, and he

1562
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: just he took his help and his headset off and

1563
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 1: all threw it down then stopped himself. But you could

1564
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 1: just see it the look in his face. He was

1565
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 1: struggling with the fact that his team can't get a

1566
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: win even with, you know, a huge lead. And you know,

1567
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 1: I was texting my buddy who's a Bears fan for

1568
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 1: the majority of the second half before the actual comeback

1569
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 1: really started, and I was like, Hey, maybe your team's

1570
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 1: at two and oh fraud. You know, they don't look

1571
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 1: very good today. Mitch didn't look very good before he

1572
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 1: got pulled. Time for them to finally get a loss,

1573
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 1: and then you come back, and of course they found

1574
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 1: their way back into the game. So you wonder, is

1575
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 1: it Nick Foles heroism, which we've seen plenty of in

1576
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:59,440
Speaker 1: the past, or is it the Falcon simply not understanding

1577
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: any concept of how to close a football game, because

1578
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: so far through three weeks, they have no idea how

1579
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 1: to do it. It's a little ball. That game winning

1580
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,560
Speaker 1: touchdown was folds kind of mad. You know, that was

1581
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 1: Folds in a nutshell him getting hit in the arm.

1582
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 1: There was It reminded me of the play got hurt

1583
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 1: on last year and he's watching the game winning touchdown

1584
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 1: from his backside and had a couple other nice throws.

1585
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 1: Might give them a little more juice. They are the

1586
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: first team to ever come back the Bears from a

1587
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 1: sixteen point fourth quarter deficit twice in a season and win.

1588
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: They've already done it in Week three, like every different quarterbacks,

1589
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,759
Speaker 1: two different quarterback It's outrageous. But you're right there about

1590
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: the Falcons not closing because you can't put it all

1591
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: on the defense either. The the offense didn't score their

1592
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 1: last six possessions and had a bunch of three and outs.

1593
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 1: Not to bring it up again, but just like the

1594
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and so Matt Ryan is the guy behind

1595
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 1: center both of those games, there's something wrong with this

1596
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 1: Falcons team and it's screaming to to be blown up.

1597
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 1: Let's face it. Let's just be totally honest. How do

1598
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 1: how do you your fan base is dying? You know,

1599
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: there's a difference. I don't know what's worse like to

1600
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: be a fan like I am of the Jets. I

1601
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 1: think it's a team that's hopeless or a fan of

1602
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,560
Speaker 1: the Falcons, where you show that not only can you

1603
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 1: hang with teams, you could beat up on teams and

1604
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: then completely pe down your own leg during money time.

1605
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 1: I mean that that just can't happen. It can't happen

1606
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 1: once in a season, let alone twice in three weeks.

1607
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what's worse between the two, but I

1608
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: think I would rather having been a Browns fan. I

1609
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 1: think I would rather be in the Falcon situation than

1610
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: having no hope at all, because like Calvin Ridley had

1611
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 1: a nice day, Todd Durley looked kind of encouraging at times.

1612
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 1: They did jump out. They've proven that they can at

1613
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 1: least play with another team or jump out to a lead.

1614
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 1: They just can't finish a game. So you go to

1615
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 1: bed that Sunday night upset that they lost, but thinking

1616
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 1: go off only they could just put four quarters together

1617
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: or just give up, or you can give up. That's

1618
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 1: an option. You can enjoy the sport more and not

1619
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 1: be chained to a miserable experience. Because the Falcons right now,

1620
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 1: I think they're number one in my pain rankings because

1621
01:25:55,760 --> 01:26:00,080
Speaker 1: as three goes further and Patriots fan laying out the

1622
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 1: pay pain rankings, right, they are they at least the

1623
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 1: Falcons were vaguely interesting. But I would say dan Quinn

1624
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 1: was brought into revolutionize their defense as a defensive you know,

1625
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 1: Seahawk x Seahawks defensive wizard, and their defense has been

1626
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 1: the issue years in a row. I just I mean,

1627
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 1: the the issue is not Matt Ryan, who's been the

1628
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 1: best quarterback in that division, it's the defense. I wasn't

1629
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 1: plugged into the beginning of the same. Did Robisky just

1630
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 1: get benched because he was playing terribly or how did

1631
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 1: that play out? Yeah? Killer pick, didn't he? Yeah? I

1632
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 1: didn't see any sign of anything on the sideline that

1633
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 1: they were examining him for any reason. It just look

1634
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 1: like he looked bad. He was really being risky early

1635
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: to just kind of heaving the ball around the field

1636
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 1: and was not the ha no momentum with him and

1637
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: h you know, you get the classic coaching line when

1638
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 1: they make it a mid game quarterback change, all we're

1639
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 1: just looking for a spark. We're just looking for a spark. Well,

1640
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: they got their spark today, Sonny and then all and

1641
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 1: that felt like politics too. Like they You know, there's

1642
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 1: all these teams that are stuck trying to like hoist

1643
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 1: up certain quarterbacks to make the front office look good

1644
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:05,480
Speaker 1: based on bad decisions, past past decisions like the Trabinsky

1645
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 1: two game thing. Two plus games thing was a political

1646
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 1: maneuver and now they're stuck. Way to do it, it's

1647
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: the way to do it. They're three and oh. Now

1648
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: you set them up, you sent them up to. Then

1649
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 1: that's fine. They're not three and o just because of Trabinsky.

1650
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 1: But then my point is they they got there. They

1651
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 1: I don't know why they did that, but if you've

1652
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: got to make a change, like the work, you know,

1653
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 1: you're happy to do it at three and oh with

1654
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 1: a comeback Victor. I mean, he's still broken on the sideline.

1655
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like kind of funny how fading it

1656
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,640
Speaker 1: was with Rabinsky though, because if if you would have

1657
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: I don't know if the desert does these things, Greg,

1658
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 1: we know better than me, but if you would have

1659
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:42,799
Speaker 1: had to set an over under for when Nick Foles

1660
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 1: got into game action, you probably would have set it

1661
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 1: around like two and a half and a half games

1662
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 1: something like that. And right on right on cue there

1663
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 1: he is all right, let's move on Sunday Night football.

1664
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 1: Look the first shot Rogers trying to get deep down field,

1665
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 1: and it's a first round take. That doesn't matter what

1666
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 1: round I was taking forty eight on the catch for

1667
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: Alan Lazard, the undrafted player Aaron Rodgers having his way

1668
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: with yet another defense. This time it's the New Orleans Saints.

1669
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 1: Alan Lazard finished six for one forty six in a

1670
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 1: touch Rogers twenty one of thirty eight three three touchdowns,

1671
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 1: no interceptions, passer rating, another sterling effort from the future

1672
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer in a thirty seven to thirty win

1673
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 1: at the Superdome. The Packers moved to three and oh.

1674
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 1: The Saints fall to one and two, and they have problems.

1675
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:46,600
Speaker 1: Nick Shook, I'll start with you on this one. A

1676
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 1: lot of focus has been and you get it. That's

1677
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 1: how football works, that's how sports fandom works. A lot

1678
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 1: of the focus on the Saints has been about Drew Brees.

1679
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: Is he and decline? Is he? This? Is he? That? Meanwhile,

1680
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 1: the Saints defense continues to be a major issue uh

1681
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 1: slowing down opposing offenses, and the penalties continue to pile up. Yeah,

1682
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 1: and the penalties piled up late in this game with

1683
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 1: two engine Orris Jenkins that put the Packers on the

1684
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 1: doorstep of scoring the game of the game ceiling touchdown. Really, Um,

1685
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you can't discredit the Saints for

1686
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: or not to severally discredit the Saints for not being

1687
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 1: able to stop in Aaron rodgers let offense. But this

1688
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 1: is a trend. This isn't just a one week thing,

1689
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 1: as you said. And and no matter how well Drew

1690
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 1: Brees plays, they don't have the talent and especially with

1691
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 1: Michael Town Michael Thomas out to really go toe to

1692
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 1: toe with a team that can really play high level

1693
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: offense if they can't get a stop on defense. So

1694
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 1: that's definitely concerning for them right now and the reason

1695
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 1: why they lost this game. I watched this with um

1696
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 1: with our son Luke, who's a Saints fan as of

1697
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 1: a better season ago and when yeah, he yeah, he's

1698
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 1: that's the team he's chosen. And um, he was very

1699
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:56,799
Speaker 1: upset Um to see Genorris Jenkins get flagged like eighties

1700
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 1: seven times for past interference. At one point he said

1701
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 1: him a again, He's innocent. This was his quote, him again,

1702
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: He's innocent. He's probably so stressed wasn't. He's not innocent.

1703
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 1: He was clearly guilty of some of those infractions changed

1704
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 1: the game. You you watch your boy Aaron Rodgers, Dan Uh.

1705
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 1: I know, you know, some things in this season not

1706
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 1: going your way a hundred percent, but that all pro

1707
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 1: pick you have for Aaron Rodgers is looking freaking amazing.

1708
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 1: And you watch him and you just think he's having

1709
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:30,600
Speaker 1: so much fun. And I think about when Jay Sternberger

1710
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 1: caught a pass in the fourth quarter and he immediately

1711
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 1: starts having fun with him because Sternberger had a couple

1712
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 1: of big drops last week and that was his first

1713
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 1: career catch, and then he keeps going back to him. Uh.

1714
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 1: Early in the game, He's like wiping down Lazard's uh

1715
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 1: face after that amazing catch Lazard had, which was an

1716
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 1: even better throw from Rogers. I mean, just feeling himself

1717
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 1: moving to his left and like dropping it in the

1718
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 1: bucket from fifty five yards away. It's just it's fun

1719
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:57,600
Speaker 1: to watch. I mean he is. To meet him and

1720
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 1: Ruffel Wilson, maybe they would be the best to right now.

1721
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 1: Three weeks that easy flick from Rogers, which you saw

1722
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 1: uh on that touchdown, that's probably my favorite throw in

1723
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 1: NFL history. I'm not old enough, uh to take in

1724
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 1: peak Nameth when he had an amazing fall through and

1725
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 1: he would zip the ball like nobody else but Aaron Rodgers.

1726
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 1: The way he can just on the move, square shoulders

1727
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 1: and then just flick it and then it's just perfectly

1728
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:33,640
Speaker 1: precise hits a target. I mean, the man when he

1729
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 1: is right is just so fun to watch. And Alvin

1730
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 1: Kamara from the running back position is is like Rogers

1731
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 1: in that way, Like when Kamara is what right? And

1732
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 1: he was in this game when he had just six

1733
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 1: carries but for fifty eight yards, and then as a

1734
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 1: receiver stepping up with Michael Thomas out of the mix,

1735
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 1: thirteen catches, a hundred and thirty nine yards, two touchdowns

1736
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 1: including that insane fifty two yard catching run where he

1737
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 1: got some help from I believe his center who was

1738
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 1: motoring up the field. That was h It was special.

1739
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 1: It was kind of a fun game to watch, not

1740
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 1: just because it was competitive, but to see Rogers at

1741
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 1: his peak right now, to see Kamara healthy. These are

1742
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 1: some of the best players in the world at their peak. Yeah,

1743
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, the funny thing is the similarity between both

1744
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 1: of them while they were very different players. The one

1745
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 1: thing I keep going back to with them, it's how

1746
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 1: light they are on their feet. I mean, Rogers just

1747
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 1: bounces around throughout the pocket, floating left right before flicking

1748
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 1: it like you said. And then Camara of course regaining

1749
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 1: his balance on that long run. And I like Greg's

1750
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:32,680
Speaker 1: sweet about it, which is the Saints entire offense is

1751
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 1: basically built around camera breaking tackles, which he obviously showed

1752
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:38,919
Speaker 1: he's very good at. It's not really a reliable strategy,

1753
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:40,800
Speaker 1: of course, and that was kind of what they ringed

1754
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 1: on tonight with him leading them and receiving everything else.

1755
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:45,599
Speaker 1: But it's still fun to watch. Yeah, I mean Dan's

1756
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 1: favorite stat average depth of target A dot. I mean

1757
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 1: it had its night to night. It was an aid

1758
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 1: dot night. All they did was talking about aid DOT

1759
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:55,719
Speaker 1: I feel like the whole time. And it's because Breezes,

1760
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 1: you know, he they made the point Breeze is always

1761
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the league in that category, so

1762
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 1: maybe this isn't that big of deal. But now he's

1763
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the league by like a long shot.

1764
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:08,639
Speaker 1: And this this offense, it's been fine the last two weeks.

1765
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 1: It's taken a little attention away from their defense being

1766
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 1: even worse. I think Jeff Duncan pointed out they've they've

1767
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 1: forced one punt in their last seventeen drives. So it's

1768
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 1: really the defense that to me deserves the l more

1769
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:23,599
Speaker 1: than anything today, than than the Saints um. But it's

1770
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 1: also not quite the Saints offense, even even putting Michael

1771
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 1: Thomas back there. I don't know, Well, let's talk about

1772
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: the taste of Hill play. That really was the shifting

1773
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 1: playing the game. Rogers is not attacking downfield. Is average

1774
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 1: air yards per tempt I believe is sub five in

1775
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 1: this game, maybe even closer to four. And they bring

1776
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:48,680
Speaker 1: Hill out near midfield, he fumbles Zadarius Smith with the

1777
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:53,640
Speaker 1: force fumble. Hill has not had the same success in

1778
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 1: this offensive as last year. I wonder how much of

1779
01:33:56,280 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 1: that has to do with Drew Brees and how the

1780
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 1: offense is so one dimensional right now that you bring

1781
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 1: Taystom Hill out there and there's just no fear in

1782
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:09,680
Speaker 1: the defense that there's gonna be a big play. It

1783
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 1: certainly hasn't happened yet. It's small sample size at this point,

1784
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:17,560
Speaker 1: but you're right that like the Breeze Taysom Hill combination

1785
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 1: is less effective. I mean, the way thing is, if

1786
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 1: I were to wake up tomorrow and if people still

1787
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: read newspapers and I were to look at the Breeze

1788
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:28,680
Speaker 1: box score, any other person would be happy if their

1789
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:30,720
Speaker 1: quarterback had that box score. It's just that what we're

1790
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:33,559
Speaker 1: seeing with Breeze is a little bit different. I still

1791
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 1: think that he's reading the field as well as anyone

1792
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 1: and made a couple of really smart throws um in

1793
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,640
Speaker 1: that situation, but Hill is on the Hill is in

1794
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 1: there for that play because they have comprehensive trust in

1795
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: him to not turn the ball over, first of all,

1796
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 1: So for that to happen, I mean, everything went completely

1797
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 1: sideways from there. I wasn't even on the field the

1798
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 1: st at thirty points at the end of the day.

1799
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 1: Even that was a killer turnover. It really doomed them

1800
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:01,760
Speaker 1: in some ways. But uh, that to me, to go

1801
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 1: back to how I set it up with you, shook,

1802
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 1: this game is on the defense, and a defense that

1803
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 1: a lot of people saw as one of the best

1804
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 1: in the league potentially entering the season, and they just

1805
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 1: got to be a lot better. And I'll add one

1806
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 1: more point, and it connects to the defense, not all

1807
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 1: home field advantages are created equal, but that was a

1808
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 1: big deal. And Chris collins Worth mentioned it during the

1809
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 1: telecast that nobody in that stadium at the Superdome made

1810
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:32,560
Speaker 1: life a lot easier for Aaron Rodgers and company. And

1811
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 1: you just wonder if Aaron Rodgers is as comfortable and

1812
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 1: it was casually dissecting this defense, if there's not seventy

1813
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:44,640
Speaker 1: five thousand screaming, Uh, Louisiana's down there, Uh tonight. But

1814
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 1: that's that's football. And you know, I wonder, like what

1815
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 1: kind of effect that's had another environment in the league.

1816
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 1: But that environment, especially because of the way that the

1817
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 1: stadiums built, your indoors sound reverberates, they're they're famous for

1818
01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:59,600
Speaker 1: being very loud. We've seen this across sports in the

1819
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 1: time we're playing these sports in right now. I mean

1820
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:03,680
Speaker 1: even the NBA, Like you got the Lakers and the

1821
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,160
Speaker 1: heat and heat in the finals, and you wouldn't expect

1822
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:07,720
Speaker 1: one of those teams to be making it so and

1823
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 1: it's because they're playing in the bubbles. You get kind

1824
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 1: of a similar situation in some of these teams and

1825
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:13,599
Speaker 1: there's no fans, you don't have that effect. And Rogers,

1826
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 1: like you said, toyed with them multiple times tonight with

1827
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 1: those hard counts that they would never implement uh in

1828
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 1: one of those environments when they typically be going with

1829
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 1: a snap count. And that kind of changed the game

1830
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 1: because they got a free play there uh and and

1831
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 1: threw up the past ended up in in the passenger

1832
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 1: fence to set them up on the goal line. But again,

1833
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 1: you're right, that defense has not stood up and done

1834
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:36,719
Speaker 1: its job. Last week it was Malcolm Jenkins getting victimized

1835
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 1: by Darren Waller or most of the defense getting victimized

1836
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 1: by Darren Waller. This week, when they had a chance

1837
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 1: to get a stop get the ball back for their

1838
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 1: offense down three, they couldn't do anything even close to that,

1839
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 1: and they did it without Davante Adams. To me, that

1840
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:53,639
Speaker 1: makes this all the more meaning. I mean, their offense

1841
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:57,680
Speaker 1: is just in such a different space. Um then they

1842
01:36:57,720 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 1: were a year ago at this time when they were

1843
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:01,759
Speaker 1: trying to can figure each other out. You know, Collinsworth

1844
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 1: made the point a lot of times it's really Rogers

1845
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 1: calling the play. I mean he has like a menu

1846
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:08,840
Speaker 1: of a million different options that La Fleur is setting up.

1847
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:12,560
Speaker 1: They're in such amazing sinc right now. I mean to

1848
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:16,679
Speaker 1: do it without Adams where their three tight ends tight Tanyan, Tanyan,

1849
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:20,559
Speaker 1: Sternberger and Lewis were like their third, you know, second, third,

1850
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 1: and fourth leading receivers. I mean, that's that's amazing. And

1851
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 1: the Saints. The Saints missed Jadevian Clowney tonight. I keep

1852
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 1: keep bringing it up. But like Marcus Davenport is a

1853
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 1: whipping boy for Saints Twitter that you know two firsts

1854
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 1: that they were missing two first again. He uh, he

1855
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 1: missed his third grade game. They had zero pass rush.

1856
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 1: So Rogers does have weapons. It's it's that offensive line

1857
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 1: that's Aaron Jones, that that's all he needs right now.

1858
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 1: And Maddie Lafleur the little man, right, We're all exactly right.

1859
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 1: We're only like eight nine months away, you know, out

1860
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 1: from Dan's dad delivering the little Boy with a Beard

1861
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 1: comment about Matt Lafleur that we all chuckled at and

1862
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 1: believed in because it made some much sense. He seemed

1863
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:04,639
Speaker 1: like a small young man attempting to lead a football

1864
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,680
Speaker 1: team into battle. But now I think Matt Lafleur is

1865
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:09,640
Speaker 1: one of the stories of this game, that he has

1866
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 1: become a dude. And I was killing their record last year.

1867
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:15,640
Speaker 1: Just inherited right Aaron Rodgers to night that was a

1868
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 1: good job by him. Well that's you know, that's fine.

1869
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 1: But I mean Matt Lafleur though, is adding value too,

1870
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:23,720
Speaker 1: and he just he just took down Sean Payton and Greg.

1871
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 1: I want to find out at some point, I'm gonna

1872
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 1: go through the accounting what kind of profits are you

1873
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 1: making off of Saints Twitter. You mentioned it at least

1874
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 1: three times a week in various platforms. We get you

1875
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 1: in Saints Twitter, you know, and you know, if people

1876
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:38,840
Speaker 1: didn't see it on the network, you gotta get the

1877
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 1: two first. I like I like that as like a

1878
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 1: running thing. The Packers went fourteen and four in the

1879
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:49,200
Speaker 1: Bearded Boys first year. They're now three and oh that's

1880
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 1: seventeen and four. Did the math, and they have more

1881
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 1: points through their first three games this season than they've

1882
01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 1: ever had in franchise history. And there's been some great

1883
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 1: offenses in the history of the Bearded Boy. I think

1884
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 1: that was more a general commentary my dad made on

1885
01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 1: the youthful appearance of the Floora. I don't think he

1886
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 1: was commenting on him as a coach, but I'll have

1887
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 1: to double check with Keith on that. But let's let's

1888
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:13,759
Speaker 1: stay focused here because there is a developing news story

1889
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 1: before we say goodbye. And I've been making a lot

1890
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:21,760
Speaker 1: of phone calls and shoot a lot of text. Uh,

1891
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 1: just kind of reach out to my story. Who can

1892
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 1: figure out where was Al tonight? Al Michael's not in

1893
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:31,120
Speaker 1: the booth? You know? Last week it was justin Herbert

1894
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 1: shows up for a snap one for the Chargers, catching

1895
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 1: everybody off off guard. Today it's al Michael's replaced by

1896
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 1: Mike Tarico along with Chris Collinsworth in the booth. Do

1897
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 1: we have any info on where Al was tonight? Ricky, Yeah,

1898
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 1: it was decided before the season that he was. NBC

1899
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 1: said that Michaels would miss a few weeks this season

1900
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:59,759
Speaker 1: Moheretrico would subben for him, as described as by weeks

1901
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:03,439
Speaker 1: to limit travel. And apparently al Michael's is this is

1902
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:06,640
Speaker 1: a great schedule for me and I'm all in. I

1903
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 1: have a source that works high up is a major

1904
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 1: player in the broadcasting game, makes huge money success who

1905
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:18,879
Speaker 1: feels that this could be a reaction to a potential

1906
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 1: al Michael's pay cut behind the scenes, and he made

1907
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 1: the decision. I'm not calling every game if you're not

1908
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 1: gonna give me the money I need. This is again

1909
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 1: conjecture that we're still early in the process. Why is

1910
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:32,839
Speaker 1: an Al doing a full slate of Sunday Night football?

1911
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Speaker 1: Maybe bye week? You know he's up there years. Uh,

1912
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 1: it's a pandemic. Uh, there's all sorts of reasons. Why

1913
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:42,719
Speaker 1: are you making a lot of money? Yeah, you gotta

1914
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 1: earn that right, talking about Trico's basically your Tassome Hill

1915
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Speaker 1: that they have to find out. Let's make this wouldn't

1916
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Speaker 1: have had a holding penalty in a fumble, you know,

1917
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:56,720
Speaker 1: like Janico's not Tastom Hill. Tastom Hill's not a real

1918
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Speaker 1: human being. Thank you for saying that, so I didn't

1919
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 1: have to jump in. And Mike Tarko is Steve Young

1920
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:04,800
Speaker 1: and Al Michael's is Joe Montana. That's where we're at.

1921
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Speaker 1: It's Taysom hillstyff. Well, No, here's what I would say though.

1922
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Speaker 1: The whole this whole idea of you know, media people

1923
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Speaker 1: getting a bye week during the football season, all this

1924
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:15,400
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. You know, we didn't what

1925
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 1: do we get about four days off this entire off season,

1926
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 1: like you know, suddenly Cessler was week seven off to

1927
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:23,880
Speaker 1: just completely vanished, and that means all shows for the

1928
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 1: entire everything. It just makes a lot of sense should

1929
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 1: you get involved in that week? Where's al all right?

1930
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Speaker 1: When a song? Good stuff? Um um alright? So Nick

1931
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Speaker 1: Shook you said it all. Thank you so much. We

1932
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 1: love this new tradition. And also notice uh Shook behind

1933
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:54,639
Speaker 1: him has the NFL helmet that they give you when

1934
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 1: you leave the company and then you sign it and

1935
01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 1: you say, oh, Shock, it's been so great, best of

1936
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 1: luck in your journey. And then ship goes to the

1937
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 1: Browns for about seven days and then comes back to

1938
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Speaker 1: the NFL. So he got the signed helmet and beginning

1939
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 1: to come back to the NFL. So Shook, we're really

1940
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 1: game in the system in a big spot. You know.

1941
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Speaker 1: It's my third stint, so I figure, you know, five

1942
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 1: or tenures, maybe we'll be up the number five. I

1943
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:22,680
Speaker 1: don't know how many. I think you also got the

1944
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 1: real life Browns experience, which is going thinking that you're

1945
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 1: gonna be there for twenty to thirty years, and you're

1946
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 1: there for twenty to thirty hours, and that's that's probably

1947
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:33,479
Speaker 1: about as long as it goes. And the big joke

1948
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 1: on Twitter when I left was oh, you got off

1949
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 1: just as the ship was sinking, when really it was

1950
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:40,320
Speaker 1: a completely different set of circumstances. But we'll let the

1951
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Speaker 1: public believe that. Speaking of Yeah, speaking of deep dives,

1952
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Speaker 1: the old Zeuser has another expose in the can. I

1953
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 1: just have to get a few more quotes and a

1954
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,640
Speaker 1: couple more sources. What happened to Nick Shook in the

1955
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:54,320
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. It's a secret that or a story that

1956
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 1: has not been told yet, but we hope to get

1957
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Speaker 1: it down the line. Another helmet I have here, if

1958
01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 1: I and reach for it is from the vaunted, the venerated,

1959
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 1: the venerated desk of Mark Sessler. Hang on, I can

1960
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:11,519
Speaker 1: only wonder what this is. It is Mark Sessler's old

1961
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 1: Brown's helmet, the helmet. Did you steal that because you're

1962
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 1: so much larger than physically or did he give it

1963
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Speaker 1: to you? He gave this to me after I left.

1964
01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:22,679
Speaker 1: I gave it to him because he's so much larger.

1965
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Speaker 1: First time, you're the you're the Billy Martin, Billy Martin

1966
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Speaker 1: of NFL media right now, Um, all right, good stuff,

1967
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Speaker 1: thank you, choock, and it's getting grosser. We'll be back

1968
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Speaker 1: on Tuesday with the podcast, and the wheel continues to

1969
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Speaker 1: go around and around and around. This is Dan Hansens

1970
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Speaker 1: signing off for Nick Shook. Get Shook with Nick Shook,

1971
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Speaker 1: the Old Boss, Quiet Storm, and of course The Mailman

1972
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Speaker 1: and Ricky Holley until Tuesday