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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod.

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Speaker 2: It's Teddy Mellencamp and Camrad Judge.

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Speaker 3: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of to Teas in

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Speaker 3: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and.

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Speaker 2: Damn Rid Judge.

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Speaker 1: Geez.

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Speaker 2: So many headlines about the Mormon Wives, like it's crazy

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Speaker 2: all something is going on with every single one of

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Speaker 2: them at this point, except for Whitney. She's just getting

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Speaker 2: better and better and getting more gigs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Whitney's thriving.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I love her.

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Speaker 1: I know a remember when we didn't I know she was.

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Speaker 2: She absolutely won me over. I mean I think we've

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Speaker 2: always agreed that she's the most talented one on the cast. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: for sure, by far, by far.

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Speaker 1: What did you hear the rumor mill that the next

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Speaker 1: pick for the Bachelor at is Maria Higgins?

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Speaker 2: I did. I just read that this morning. I think

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Speaker 2: that's a great choice. I think she's absolutely beautiful. I

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Speaker 2: think that she is sweet, nice, so going. I love her.

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Speaker 1: I think she would be great.

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Speaker 3: And then I feel like my whole life has been

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Speaker 3: taken over by Mormon wives. Like there's not one day

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Speaker 3: that I don't there's not a million headlines.

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Speaker 1: Things are just NonStop.

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Speaker 3: I can't even like the second that I think it

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Speaker 3: might be done. There's more so like we hear now.

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Speaker 3: The next thing is Mormon Wives star Taylor Frankie Paul

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Speaker 3: under investigation for a third domestic violence incident. Utah police

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Speaker 3: are investigating allegations of a third incident. A police spokesperson

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Speaker 3: told NBC News that the last month, Mortensen contacted West Jordan,

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Speaker 3: Utah authorities describing an alleged violent incident that took place

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four. The spokesperson said that the department

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Speaker 3: is reviewing several videos related to the alleged event, but

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Speaker 3: they couldnot share.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just I can't.

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Speaker 2: It's way deeper than we know. I see, I've been

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Speaker 2: seeing a lot of things basically staying insinuating. It's more

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Speaker 2: about her defending herself and she's been in this relationship

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Speaker 2: that's been allegedly abusive. Yeah, and I do feel like

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Speaker 2: we're not hearing the full story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't feel like we're getting in the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot, it's a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 2: both of them, I don't think need to be on

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Speaker 2: reality TV. I think they need to get off. It's

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Speaker 2: only going to make them worse. They need to get

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Speaker 2: off and fix their problems.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think that thing so frightening is that.

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't stop. It's constantly getting worse and worse

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Speaker 1: and worse.

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Speaker 3: And she also, I mean, I know we'll get into

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Speaker 3: it once we start talking about it, but I can't

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Speaker 3: even wrap my head around the fact that this is

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Speaker 3: what the life that they're going through right now with

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Speaker 3: those kids, I know.

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Speaker 2: And then you see her out, you know, in her car,

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Speaker 2: smiling and laughing. I mean, she said, like, what am

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Speaker 2: I supposed to do? Go stare at a wall. I

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Speaker 2: get that, but maybe stay off social media. That'd probably

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Speaker 2: be a start.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, it's NonStop.

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's hard to even recap these episodes

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Speaker 3: because we're getting so much news in real time that

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Speaker 3: it's just craziness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not going away anytime soon. I obviously they

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Speaker 2: have put a stop to filming season five. I think

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Speaker 2: that there's going to be there could possibly be a delay.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they hold off, let these things die down a

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Speaker 2: little bit before they continuous season five and release it.

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Speaker 2: I think there's definitely a longer pause and expected. I'm

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Speaker 2: assuming that I don't know that, and now they are

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Speaker 2: filming Orange County right now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, can you believe that? I mean, who

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Speaker 3: else is going to be on that show?

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Speaker 2: I know somebody, Well, my makeup girl, Chelsea, she's got

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Speaker 2: friends from high school that are on the show and filming.

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Speaker 2: And then the girl that does my hair, Jill, she

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Speaker 2: knows some of the girls on the show as well.

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Speaker 3: So they're filming it already. Yeah, it's my understanding.

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Speaker 2: Oh do you think that they potentially knew that the

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Speaker 2: original ones kind of falling apart?

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Speaker 1: I mean they had to. How could they not.

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Speaker 2: I mean they had to have known all this information.

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Speaker 2: Have we ever found out? We assume, but we don't

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Speaker 2: know who gave the video to TMZ.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it had to have been Dakota.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not the court system, and I can guarantee

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Speaker 2: you that that video had But here's another confusing thing.

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Speaker 2: If that video was did go through the court system,

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Speaker 3: They they those videos I think were shown there, but

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Speaker 3: it's taken so long to come back around, right, And a

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Speaker 3: timing is the timing is very interesting mm hmm. But

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Speaker 3: not only do we have all the Taylor Frankie Paul

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Speaker 3: stuff with Dakota who were also having call her daddy

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Speaker 3: was Jordan's.

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Speaker 2: So was Jordan on who was on call and call

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Speaker 2: her daddy?

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Speaker 1: Was it.

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Speaker 2: Because I saw something about Jorge? I was Jesse and

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Speaker 2: she was talking about Jordan, right, And it was something

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Speaker 2: to do with esquorts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or currently been hired hiring escorts and having orgies and.

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Speaker 2: That somebody you want to be married to?

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Speaker 1: Not yeah, but I mean I.

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Speaker 3: Thought for a while they dropped it at you know,

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Speaker 3: on purpose, at that same time frame, so it would

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Speaker 3: But the fact that she went on call her daddy

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Speaker 3: and she aired all of the dirty laundry means that

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Speaker 2: Do you think that Marciano is running to her? Do

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Speaker 2: you think she's talking with him? Do you think it's

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Speaker 2: potentially something going on there?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Don't we kindle that. No?

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Speaker 1: I think she could do so much better.

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Speaker 3: I think she solely did that because she was just

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Speaker 3: in a desperate situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, else.

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Speaker 3: We can't, I mean, but on call her daddy. She

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Speaker 3: said Jordan used escorts and went to orgy parties and

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Speaker 3: blackmailed her with the Marciana staff. She said he had

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Speaker 3: to TikTok ready to blow up her life. When she

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Speaker 3: you're going to tailor me now, I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: if you want to go to divorce, this is the

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Speaker 3: show to go on.

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Speaker 2: Well, any reality show if you're not on stable ground

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Speaker 2: and you're going on a reality show and you're I mean,

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Speaker 2: obviously none of these girls are. Most of these girls

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Speaker 2: punt Villa and there two of them are having you know,

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Speaker 2: relations with one of the cast members while you're married. Like,

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Speaker 2: that's not good. That is not Do you think that

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Speaker 2: a good outcome is going to come with that? No,

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Speaker 2: you're going to get divorced. I mean, you knew this

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Speaker 2: was going to happen. They knew it was going to happen.

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Speaker 2: They know it's going to happen, but I think they

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Speaker 2: just hated their life. Well, let's see, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of changes going on in that show, so don't know

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Speaker 2: what's going to happen. Well, It's starting off with everyone

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Speaker 2: in LA and Taylor has Harry Jowsy over while Dakota

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Speaker 2: is there. Now, this is like a calculated move. She

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Speaker 2: knows it's gonna piss off Dakota. She's you know, it's

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Speaker 2: not a smart move. But Dakota ends up liking the guy.

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Speaker 1: Well he does it on purpose, just to piss her off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so she can feel like on edge about it.

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Speaker 3: Harry Jowsy's never seemed more uncomfortable in my life.

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Speaker 2: Taylor is spiraling over Harry and Dakota getting along. It's like, girl,

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Speaker 2: And then Taylor and Dakota start fighting in front of everyone.

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Speaker 2: I mean, everyone else is unfazed. But then you see

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Speaker 2: Harry like, uh, I gotta go. I mean, Harry's not

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Speaker 2: turning red, like.

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Speaker 1: He was paying.

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Speaker 2: The fact that he thought he was going to cry,

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Speaker 2: the fact that.

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Speaker 1: He didn't even know what he was walking into.

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Speaker 2: Well, he was used, and that's where I would be

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Speaker 2: pissed off. You used me, you invited me over here,

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Speaker 2: used me. I hope they paid him and then got

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Speaker 2: in a fight. With your boyfriend, like, and I'm supposed

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Speaker 2: to be interested in you? Yeah, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, give me the hell out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But now I feel like he loved it because he's

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Speaker 3: done so many tiktoks and different things.

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Speaker 1: Talking about being there.

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Speaker 2: Gave him more content to talk about on social media

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Speaker 3: But I love how Taylor's like, I'm going to be

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Speaker 3: better than your words.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're on it, but we're going to see it.

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Speaker 2: I've seen rumors where they said they're not going to

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Speaker 2: I wonder is this going to be like the The Ultimate

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Speaker 3: I think because kids are involved, it's probably not going

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Speaker 2: Didn't they have Colton? Didn't he do something not so good?

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Speaker 2: And they showed his season he.

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Speaker 3: Did something not so good after his season? Oh after okay,

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Speaker 3: but they still had him on.

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Speaker 1: Traders.

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Speaker 2: I know he got a lot of shit too, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a lot of shit. Well, the next morning, Leylan and

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Speaker 2: Maycy walk in on Dakota and Taylor naked in bed.

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Speaker 2: I mean, clearly they had sex. It's like it's a sick,

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Speaker 2: sick relationship, it really is.

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Speaker 1: It's a.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what you call it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they don't even try to hide it from

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Speaker 3: everybody I know, and everybody's so over it.

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Speaker 2: So I guess walking like your son makes you horny.

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Speaker 1: I mean that that comment.

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Speaker 3: And then they're all just laying in bed like everybody's

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Speaker 3: coming in. They're shocked by it. I love how Laylah

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Speaker 3: is like a genius here. She's like, I think she's psychic.

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Speaker 3: She's like, this isn't going to end. Well, you think, Laylah.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that this happens was happening all the time.

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Speaker 2: They were probably having sex all the time. It makes

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Speaker 2: more sense now they weren't together, but she was having

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's it. I mean, it's clearly a

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Speaker 3: very toxic relationship. And well, I hope they get help,

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Speaker 3: I know, but I think all this is going to

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Speaker 2: I mean, this went into their help for jail.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really sad.

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Speaker 2: Did you see the video where Dakoto was begging them

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Speaker 3: But I didn't really feel like he was begging.

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Speaker 3: Right? But the book hadn't even come out yet, So

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Speaker 2: And No, I honestly feel like Taylor's that type of

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Speaker 3: What the actual I love Mirianda this episode, I do too.

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Speaker 1: She's really growing on me.

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Speaker 2: And she's the lead. So this and then she's got

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, and she's crying because she doesn't feel like

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Speaker 2: I always said, like even with women that had babies

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Speaker 3: Because he's so excited about it.

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Speaker 1: He's so because he had that. They get they get.

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Speaker 2: Then the girls go to lunch and spontaneously run into

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Speaker 2: I mean, what a surprise.

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Speaker 3: Teddy, Oh, can you even believe it? I mean just

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Speaker 3: On the unless they keep releasing the ad, like, because

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, well at first I thought, oh, this is

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Speaker 3: Well what about how I think it was Leyla That

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like everybody's seeing the trains coming except for Taylor. Right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can see Taylor's going through a lot,

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Speaker 3: See Taylor Frankie Paul again, this happened with her kids.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that what I think personally, there's something missing.

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Speaker 2: We're not seeing all of it, and I think all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, because all of them are saying to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, these girls have gotten a ton of opportunities

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Speaker 3: She made the right choice once she knew that it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they moved I love her. They moved

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Speaker 3: Then Jacob and Macy get into an argument because Macy's

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Speaker 2: I think he's telling her what to do. I feel

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Speaker 1: Well, it's the first time.

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Speaker 3: I think the problem is we haven't seen him be

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Speaker 2: he emphasized lets like I allow her to that's kind

444
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 2: of old school.

445
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: I think it might be.

446
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not going to say you can

447
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: tell he's raised Mormon because of that.

448
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think Jacob has maybe gotten into Jordan's

449
00:23:59,320 --> 00:23:59,959
Speaker 3: mom talked to You.

450
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,479
Speaker 2: So Jesse is back from New York and the girls

451
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: tell her about Taylor and Dakota having sex.

452
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 3: Jesse's psychoanalyzis Taylor Taylor didn't have a good relationship with

453
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 3: her dad, so Jesse believes Taylor just wants someone to

454
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 3: choose her, which is what makes sense on why she

455
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,479
Speaker 3: would want to go on the Bachelorette. But now we

456
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 3: a question for you. Do you think she's with somebody

457
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 3: from the Bachelorette right now?

458
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 2: I don't know. I couldn't imagine, especially after everything. I

459
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 2: just saw something where she's with some football guy. You

460
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 2: can't believe everything you read on the internet. But I

461
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know. Jordan brings out the truth box.

462
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 2: Jordan's producer's wet dream because he is more messier than

463
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 2: the majority of Mom Talk. So Jordan is just like

464
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: he's in it to win it this season. He wants

465
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: Dad Talk to go all the way at the top.

466
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: I think he wants to go guns blazing.

467
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: Well, I think he thought, like him and Jordan, he

468
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,719
Speaker 2: probably knew back then not going to make it, and

469
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 2: he's like, I'm going to get a spin off and

470
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 2: it's going to be called Dad Talk. Yeah, that's what

471
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 2: I think is going on, Layla. Jordan wants to be

472
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: in Mom Talks so bad. I'm like, I don't disagree

473
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: with you. But Whitney is like peace out in Jen

474
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 2: suspects it's because she wants to protect her image while

475
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: dancing with the Stars, I think that's true.

476
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think she also has gotten herself

477
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 3: in trouble with that before. Yeah, so she's like, why

478
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,239
Speaker 3: would I want to be in part, Like, I think

479
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 3: she's trying to stay clear of the drama right now.

480
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 3: She's trying to stay focused. She really cares about doing

481
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 3: the Dancing with the Stars, And when you think about it,

482
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: it's not like jen got really involved either.

483
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: It was solely to bring up the.

484
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: Could you imagine the physical and emotional that goes into

485
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars, eight hours of dancing, all the

486
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: other things you have to think about your body is

487
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 2: hurting to me just a lot. It just sounds like

488
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: a nightmare.

489
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 3: All I know is that when I saw Jordan bring

490
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: out that truth box, I wanted to pass in the tampon.

491
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: I know. Well, it's like, dude, seriously, stop being a

492
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 2: little bit like stop it. Stop, Like just wait till

493
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: you get your own Dad Talk spin off and you

494
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: can bring out your truthbox with your buddies.

495
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: So embarrassing.

496
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 3: I mean, you can even see Jesse's face like she

497
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 3: can't even like m she's done.

498
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: She's done.

499
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 3: I'm surprised they were ever even together.

500
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 2: I know.

501
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 1: Then way.

502
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: We go onto episode six, and it started with a

503
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 2: tailoring and Dakota's dramatic talk about the relationship. It continues

504
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: Taylor doesn't feel heard in it, and she bugs out

505
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: of me. I'm just gonna put it out there this

506
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,239
Speaker 2: whole episode. She she bothered me the way that she

507
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: talked to Dakota, like you won't let me talk, let

508
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: me talk. Like, first of all, he was letting you talk.

509
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: Calm down.

510
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was letting her talk, and she was just

511
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 3: not saying anything of any use.

512
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 2: She just kept going. And later we see her do

513
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: this with her mom and I was at then, I'm like,

514
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: I thought you were doing better, girl, You're not well.

515
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: I also think you can see a lot of her

516
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: issues stemmed from her mom, not just her dad that

517
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: she doesn't now.

518
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they have a bit of a dysfunctional relationship,

519
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 2: that's for sure.

520
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 3: Like my parents have never called me stupid and dumb

521
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 3: and or bitch or none of those. Yeah, And I mean,

522
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 3: like I had the perfect childhood, but.

523
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 2: She's a product of her environment.

524
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But what about how Mikaela and Jason head

525
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 3: out to mediate the conversation between Dakota and Taylor.

526
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: Because they're probably worried it was going to get something

527
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: that was going to happen.

528
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing, Like I think they all knew

529
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: so much more than we know.

530
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: Well, and at this point, what are they even fighting

531
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 2: over at this I mean, the same thing over and

532
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 2: over again.

533
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: Because that's a toxic relationship.

534
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: Well, I'm tired of seeing it. I don't want to

535
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: see the same thing over and over and over again.

536
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 3: Well, I'm surprised that they even let him keep coming,

537
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 3: Like he's not there with this kid.

538
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: There's no reason he needs.

539
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: To be there, zero reason for him to be there now.

540
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: Other than to fight with Taylor.

541
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: Which then it's kind of like you look at it,

542
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 3: forget the Bachelorette, you look at Secret Lives and Mormon Wives,

543
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 3: that production team, and you're like, why would you want this?

544
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: I know. Then we see Jen and Whitney are juggling

545
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: their lives with dancing the stars and it's obviously very difficult.

546
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: Whitney gets emotional because she feels like something has reconnected

547
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: within herself by getting back into dance, Like she's always

548
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: been a dancer, she's a performer, she got married young,

549
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: had kids. I mean she just recently had a kid,

550
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: and now she's at the top of her game. Yeah,

551
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: she is doing amazing things. I always say I always

552
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: loved even before Dance with the Stars, or even before

553
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: I even liked her, I loved watching her tiktoks because.

554
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: She just moves. Yeah, she's talented.

555
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: I think she's a hard worker. I do too, very hard.

556
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 3: I think she's a hustler, hard worker, and I think

557
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: that even her agent and one of these, you know,

558
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: when her agent called her to tell her about the movie,

559
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: was like, I've never known somebody to be able to

560
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: not to use an Amanda quote, but manifest something as

561
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: much as Yeah.

562
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: Well is it manifesting or is it you're on a

563
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: reality top reality show and now you're getting opportunities.

564
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's be honest. True. Yeah.

565
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: And then we get to see Taylor and her sister

566
00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: as Been meet up with her mom. Poor Aspen. She

567
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: barely said one word. She looked uncomfortable.

568
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's uncomfortable to have a conversation when

569
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: they're all lined up on one bench.

570
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: Like you can't like have a like.

571
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 3: I have a hard time when people are straight, like

572
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: at least like if there's a curvature.

573
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: You can have like a roundabe.

574
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: It's like looking down. It's like looking down. It's it's

575
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: a bad conversation. Taylor doesn't want to open up to Land.

576
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: She lies, She says that she didn't have sex with them.

577
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: She calls her mom judgmental. She doesn't want to tell her.

578
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: Do you know why? I don't tell you things? Now

579
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: you know why? And then she ends up telling her

580
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: she's just this dicktive cycle with Dakota. Then Taylor's mom

581
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: started using religion to demand demand respect without giving it back,

582
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: so it was not an easy scene to watch.

583
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: No, I'm like, Leanne, the bitch is coming from inside

584
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 3: the house right like.

585
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: And she doesn't Taylor say something like she learned her

586
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: She reacts, is she learned it from her mom, from

587
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: her mom, the same person, same exact person.

588
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: Well now, especially that her mom's gotten all that work

589
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: done to look just like Taylor.

590
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: It's weirdly she doesn't have the extensions to her waist anymore.

591
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: I love how Taylor.

592
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: This episode was like, I never even brushed my hair.

593
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: I just let Jesse do it. I'm like, well, you

594
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: have a shit ton of extensions in then Mikayla is

595
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: getting stem cell treatment done for her skin condition, and

596
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: Whitney meets her at the appointment to support her. I

597
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: feel like we're not hearing that much about Mikayla this season,

598
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: especially because we know what we know now that Mikayla

599
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: is getting separated from her husband. We're not like they

600
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 3: seem like a united front.

601
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: So her and Chase are getting separated. I didn't really

602
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: see that coming, did you. No? But when they I mean,

603
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: I know they had problems, but I didn't see that coming.

604
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: Well when they were talking about the sex stuff and

605
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 3: she said it hurts her bad have sex.

606
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: Well, if she's truly unhappy with her relationship and husband

607
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: for a long time, it could be like her autoimmune

608
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: issues could get better. Yeah, if this has been bothering

609
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: her for so long, stress is not good when you

610
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: have autoimmune issues. But just seeing them like her neck

611
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: and her face, I did not know that you that's

612
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: how you did stem cells. You just inject it right everywhere?

613
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: Didn't But yeah, she who knows? Who knows?

614
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 3: And then Whitney We get back into Whitney's still saying

615
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 3: she's feeling spread too thin, but she has a lot

616
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: of mom guilt. Connor tells her like he feels like

617
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: she's choosing everything but herself. I mean Connor, he's from

618
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: tender to like tender.

619
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: I know. Well, Connor is probably the only husband on

620
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: the show who doesn't seem jealous of their wife's success.

621
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: No, he knows she needs they need it.

622
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's like, listen, I'm a stay at home dad.

623
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: I'm not pretending I have a job.

624
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: I will get I will dress in costume for every

625
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: Dancing with the Stars, I will do ridiculous tiktoks And

626
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: for some reason, they don't even make me cringe when

627
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: he does them, like the dad talk ones.

628
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: And I'm really liking him.

629
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: I know he's won me over. They both have won

630
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: me over.

631
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that shows how great everybody else is on this show,

632
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: that they have really won us over.

633
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we obviously see the Mikaela and Jay's not

634
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: made progress. They went to a therapy appointment and she

635
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: was asked how often she enjoys sex and the answer

636
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: was never.

637
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, she says, really hurts.

638
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: I just think it's between the two of them, I

639
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: really do. I just like, I know she's had some issues,

640
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: but she's clearly not happy in that marriage. She's just

641
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: not and we know now that they're getting divorced. So

642
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I hope that she gets healthier and happier

643
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: and she has great sex with somebody new someday.

644
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

645
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: I mean, because she's saying it hurts every single time,

646
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: and then I'm wondering they only had sex when the

647
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: time when they're trying to get pregnant.

648
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: Well, I think, like you have to remember, like she

649
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: was sixteen when she got pregnant for the first time

650
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: and he was twenty one, so she was very very

651
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: young to become a mom. I think she just needs

652
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 2: to find herself a little bit.

653
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

654
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: And what about when Taylor and her mom meet with

655
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 3: a family relationship specialist to attempt to fix the relationship.

656
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: This felt like such bs to me.

657
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a good it's a they should. They should.

658
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 2: Is it going to work? It didn't look like it

659
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: was going to work. It didn't look like they were

660
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: getting anywhere with it.

661
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: No. The therapist tells Leanne she should listen to Taylor

662
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: more as she doesn't respond well to being told what

663
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: to do.

664
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 2: Do you think Leanne's jealous of Taylor?

665
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: I think Leanne.

666
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: And Taylor have so much unresolved issues and they haven't

667
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: had any conversations. I mean, we see as Taylor is

668
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: really focusing on trying to get to understand details about

669
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 3: her own dad that her mom has never told her

670
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: anything about.

671
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: Well, we found out that because she meets with like

672
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 2: a genealogy or whatever it's called.

673
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: I love how I thought that that was like a

674
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: person that looks up Jim.

675
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 2: Stones, Oh my god, but that he has passed away

676
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: because they show a picture of him. I'm like, oh,

677
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: she must be in good terms because he's signed a

678
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: release to show a picture. But no, he has passed away.

679
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: And the mom talked about him like as if he

680
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: was a horrible guy.

681
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that they could never be happy, and she

682
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 3: did that for her.

683
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

684
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: Well, it's time for Macie's Salt Lake City book event.

685
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: All the mom talk girls show up besides Whitney, who

686
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: has too much on her plate, and Jen, who's extremely sick.

687
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: I love that they facetimed Jen and she's like in

688
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 3: a towel. I know.

689
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: Jesse's upset because she got so much shit from Whitney

690
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: for almost doing the unwell event instead, but yet she

691
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: didn't show up yeah.

692
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 3: But I mean, if there's one thing Jen's good at

693
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: is knowing that they're going to call her to see

694
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: if she's actually really sick and being perfectly prepared.

695
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 2: To be I'm not convinced she was sick. I just

696
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: think those girls are freaking tired.

697
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: They are tired, and they're like, we're not going there

698
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: for a day for that event.

699
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: Do you think that the girls are overreacting to Whitney

700
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: missing the event?

701
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: Well, I think because Whitney had such a big response

702
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: to Jesse missing it, and then Whitney saying that she

703
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: would host it, like Whitney went above and beyond, Like

704
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 3: Whitney obviously had more energy that day. Like there are

705
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 3: days that I think I can do a million things

706
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: and then like ten minutes in, I'm like, no, I can't. Yeah,

707
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: so that could literally be it. Then Taylor meets with

708
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 3: her ancestry specialists for more info about her biological dad,

709
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: and then she finds out she has two I know

710
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 3: who have siblings, she has four.

711
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: So I'm assuming she doesn't talk to anybody in the family. No,

712
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 2: I haven't heard anything about that. I mean, right now,

713
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a great time for her to

714
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: be reaching out to these people. No, I think maybe

715
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: just Laylo. Somebody's got to know who she is in

716
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: the family, right, somebody has to know somebody else. Is

717
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: there a grandmother? Is there?

718
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

719
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think that she needed more

720
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 3: information from her mom about this, and her mom clearly

721
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 3: has the information and didn't give it to her. Yeah,

722
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 3: so she's always been wondering her mom is and her

723
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: constantly fighting.

724
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: But where I start to see Taylor's.

725
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 3: Like angry side whenever she's having a conversation and she

726
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: doesn't get her way. Yeah, she really like she's like

727
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 3: from zero to one hundred. Yeah.

728
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: Been. Whitney's agent calls to let her know that Christmas

729
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: Match has officially been greenlit. This is the movie that

730
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: she I don't know if she wrote it or I

731
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,959
Speaker 2: don't know, but she's going to have the leading role

732
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: in this. She's going to be an executive producer. This

733
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 2: is a big deal. How much money do you think

734
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: she's going to make off of this?

735
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's a ton of money.

736
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: Do we know what network it's on?

737
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 3: No, we don't know what network is on. But she's

738
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 3: the lead. She also gets an executive producer credit. She's

739
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 3: been on She's gone been on ROXY for how long.

740
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 3: We know how much she made on Dancing with the Stars.

741
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: I can only imagine how much her tiktoks make now.

742
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: I mean, she doesn't need mom Talk. Mom Talk would

743
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 3: only bring her down.

744
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: I don't know that she will continue on mom Talk

745
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: with all the stuff that's going on for her. I

746
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: think it's good for her to maybe not be as

747
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: full time, but at least show her face on mom

748
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 2: Talk because it is a big platform and it'll keep

749
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: her face out there. Because sometimes when you're working on

750
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 2: a movie, it doesn't you're working on it doesn't show

751
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: for a year.

752
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean it's definitely a confusing time to

753
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: recap this show because we are hearing so much in

754
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: the news. It's I really, I don't know if it's

755
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 3: the algorithm, but my entire Instagram is flooded constantly with everything.

756
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: Having to do with this.

757
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: Yep. I'm sick of it.

758
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: I'm sick of it, but then I still can't help

759
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: but read it.

760
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: I know, right, thank god, I'm so busy filming right now,

761
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: so busy that I am not spending much time on

762
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 2: social media. So but anytime I just open it up,

763
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 2: you know what, it's going to be there. It is there,

764
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: it is.

765
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: But I know, I'm sure the amount of things will

766
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: have by next week.

767
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: Is it's going to be endless?

768
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: I know.

769
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: Oh gosh.

770
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: I really just want to know if she was with

771
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 3: a new bachelor by then, or if she's single and

772
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: back on and off with Dakota.

773
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: I yeah, I don't know, but I don't know any

774
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: spoilers about who she ended up with, what she engaged.

775
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: I've heard little rumors here and there, but there's nothing

776
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: solid on social media.

777
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: Right.

778
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: No, it seemed like there was one guy who made

779
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 3: it pretty far and he's like kind of had her

780
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 3: back on social media. But the fact that he's talking

781
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: about her on social media makes me think that they're

782
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 3: not together. No, because I think there's a certain amount

783
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 3: of time that they can't talk about it, because especially

784
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: if they made it to the end, because nothing it

785
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 3: says like as of now, this is not being released. Yeah,

786
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: when do you think Mom Talk's going to be back

787
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 3: up to filming again.

788
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: I think they're going to take a while off. I

789
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: think they're going to delay season five, rightfully, So these

790
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: girls are filming, then they're airing and filming at the

791
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: same time. Like they film so much, it's constant that

792
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: they're like on the next season and they're showing the

793
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: last season's reunion, which they should never do that again ever.

794
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: And the whole thing is they're breaking the fourth wall

795
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 3: every single episode.

796
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 2: It's good to break the fourth wall. I think I

797
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: find that interesting. However, they do it too much.

798
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: It's too much the entire I seriously feel.

799
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: Like I'm watching a TV show of a TV show,

800
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: Like right, well, was that show like The Comeback but

801
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: without it being funny?

802
00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: How about that one show, the one dating show that

803
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: was like a show about reality TV? Do you remember

804
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: that one?

805
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 3: Oh?

806
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like guy the name of it.

807
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was kind of like about the Unreal.

808
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: That's it.

809
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: If you guys have not seen Unreal, I think it's

810
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 2: on Netflix. Go watch it.

811
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: It's good.

812
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: Gives you some insight to some of these dating shows

813
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: I know.

814
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 3: But I wonder if we are going to see any

815
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 3: of Taylor or we're just going to see a new bachelorette.

816
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: I mean, if we see Taylor at the iHeart Music

817
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: Awards on stage, then I'm going to lose.

818
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: It if we see her hosting a red carpet Oh

819
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 3: why doing interviews, and I'll be like, I'm doing something wrong, people,

820
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 3: I'm doing something wrong.

821
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: We're going to have to like go up and talk

822
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: to her.

823
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 2: Oh for sure.

824
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

825
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 3: We have questions and I feel like she'll answer them

826
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: for us.

827
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

828
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 2: I think sometimes in reality TV bad behavior is welcomed.

829
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: Oh did you see what happened to mean Dolores about

830
00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: with Amanda?

831
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, no, thank you.

832
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: No, this is so good.

833
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 3: Remember the other day, guys, when we were talking, Me

834
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 3: and Dolores were talking about how maybe if we're super nice,

835
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 3: Amanda will come on they I guess.

836
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: We posted a clip of that.

837
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 3: And then she responded on like the stagnant thing at

838
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: the bottom.

839
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: No, thank you, no, thank you.

840
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

841
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 3: Thanks for tuning in to another episode of to Teas

842
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: in a Pod. I'll talk too soon. Bye bye,