WEBVTT - Episode 508 w/ Ron Artest 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:13.880 He is drinks chess, motherfucking podcast makes. 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:16.960 He's a legends every Queens rapper. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:19.920 He ain't agreed as your boy, and he's a Miami 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:21.000 hip hop pioneer. 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:22.680 Put up his dj E f N. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:24.599 Together they drink it up with some. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:26.239 Of the biggest players, you know what I mean. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:31.320 And the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one source. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.320 For drunk drink chans mo posty Days New Year's c 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:43.880 that's his time for drink champions, drink up, mother would 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:45.680 it could be hoping he's gonna stop your boy. N 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:47.479 A O N A A what up his dj E 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.199 f N? And this is drink camps, y'all make some 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:55.680 of the man. I know, I know this dude for 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:59.200 a long, long, long long time. He is a champion 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:03.760 or All Star, defensive, all time player, and he got 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:05.959 a bunch of whole other shit. But I'm somewhat anxious 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:06.919 to get into this interview. 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:07.880 We're gonna get right into it. 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:11.880 So whether you call him Ron artest Ron Ron Metalworld Peace, 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:13.400 you're gonna call him something. 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:14.119 Motherfucker. 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:18.160 I didn't realize. 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:20.520 I didn't realize when I was I was having fun 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:23.960 at googleing you, I didn't realize, like, didn't you break 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:25.280 Jordan's ribs at. 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:26.160 Nineteen years old? 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.880 Yeah, so I didn't realize. 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:32.240 That because the way they promoted it, it was like 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:32.959 it was recent. 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:35.839 So this is when you was a kid, when. 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.119 I was just in Chicago, just Chicago, so you wasn't 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:39.039 signed to the Bulls yet. 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.400 I just yet I signed, just signed to the Bulls. 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:44.080 So this is a this is a practice game. 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.839 Yeah, summertime, okay, So summertime. 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.640 So okay, okay, and Jordan's tried to block you. So 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:51.600 he was posting me up. Okay. 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.560 If you remember when Jordan came back, he averaged twenty 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:58.240 five that year, right, so before that I put Jordan 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.680 down three months he was going he was her average 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:02.120 third game Tony that year. If it wasn't for me 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:06.760 breaking his ribs. Now they reported it, they said, yeah, 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:11.560 so you know, I get home next day, I got 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:15.560 drafted by Chicago. Right on the headlines one on test 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:18.239 how to fight with Michael, Jordan touched him and broke 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.959 his rib. So I'm sick. I don't even know what 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:24.720 to do. I'm nineteen and I love Jordan's So then 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:26.720 I didn't go to practice for the next two days. 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.160 I was just like depressing. My agent called me Mark 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:31.400 Bartleston at the time. He was like, you know, you 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:32.760 gotta get to the workouse. Well, I said, you know, 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.040 the media just said I broke Jordan ring and I 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:37.639 don't even I can't even move out the bed. I'm 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:41.639 just like sick. Anyway, Jordan called me two times in 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:42.040 my life. 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:45.320 He called you again after the fight. Let's let's just 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:46.799 stay with the first one though, okay. 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.280 He said, He said, hey, man, it's all right. You 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.799 know you were just playing had the play was he 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.000 was holding me. And the problem with Jordan when you 0:02:54.120 --> 0:03:00.560 let him get the ball, that's for your problems. So 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.679 I'm denying him in the Summer League and he's like, 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.040 I'm denying him this way. He's in front of me, 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.239 holding me this way. So I had to move his 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.560 on uh and and then my elbow called him in 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:12.799 the ris. But I love Jordan y yeah. 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.800 Yeah, yeah, that's dope. So I'm gonna tell you listen, 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.160 I've seen you very I used to go to Queens 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.480 Bridge with my friend named l J. You know l J. 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:22.799 You don't know l J. 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.399 He for me up the Pone building, Yeah, the Pone 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.160 building because I went to school with him and I 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:29.680 used to go out. So the first time I actually 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:33.399 went when the Queens Bridge was with uh a dude 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.520 for my hood name shot Meek and Laky and Lakey. 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.360 They brought me to a place called the Terror Dome, right, 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:41.840 and the Terrordome was the Terror Dome, right, just you 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:45.800 know self a planneatory right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:49.640 So I remember me you seeing you, me being out 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:51.680 and I seeing you late night practicing with your pops 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.320 early in the morning practicing pop Like I this is 0:03:55.400 --> 0:04:00.480 a case oh greatness. Like I didn't realize was watching 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:04.000 how great this was was first off in the hood. 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.240 They say that a lot of people don't have father figures. 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.200 You had not only a father figure. 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:10.760 I seen your father scream on drug dealers, bro, Like 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:15.200 I never saw that before, like to get to y'all 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:15.640 to practice. 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:19.400 But I did think what was going through your mind 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:20.919 because I've seen shoot like. 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.320 Night and day, like on Twelfth Street, practicing, practicing, going 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:26.400 hard was what was one now? 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:28.480 I think like eight years old, my dad introduced me 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:30.000 to basketball on Twelfth Street. 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:30.320 Wow. 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.640 You know sometimes you'll see the big guys playing, but 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:34.800 you'll get a chance to just shoot. So when I 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.760 was out there shooting, when you know, guys, older guys 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:39.680 blocking my shot, just like you know, treating the kids 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.240 in the fun with the kids. And my dad saw 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:46.760 that I'm gonna let you expel, expend your energy playing hoops. 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.279 But when I got older, it was just something trying 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:50.159 to make it on the cut. 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:51.320 You know everybody. 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.960 You know that everybody's playing ball, but they don't know 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:54.839 about our neighborhood. 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:56.200 A lot of the ballers were. 0:04:56.200 --> 0:05:01.039 Hustlers, extremely intelligent ballers like high love you. 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:02.680 Say Yami was the ball I didn't even know. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:06.080 That's like extremely Jammy just from the streets, rest in peace. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.560 Intelligent point guard. Wow, man, you get ask anybody. They 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.200 played extremely intelligent. 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.159 Twins Jamal and jam. 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:19.480 Three great shooters, half big fundamentals. And we all learned 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:23.440 from the same coaches. Well me Business Smith, Vincus Smith. Yea, 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.800 we all learned the same coaches. But you know, some 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:29.040 guys went their route and then I just stayed on 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:29.400 the corn. 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.200 Of course, one of one of my favorite things about 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:35.920 you is I believe if after you won the game, 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.120 or maybe this was during the press conference and they said, yo, 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.800 what is your greatest player you ever played against. And 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.400 you said, Mike Chatfield. I felt. 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:47.600 To listen. 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:51.440 So I used to play with Mike Chatfield and we 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:54.880 was in a thing called d f Y. So and 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:57.400 the team that I was on I was playing ball 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:58.280 in d f Y. 0:05:58.400 --> 0:05:59.640 The team I was on sucked. 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:00.800 Oh. 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.800 We talked it was crackheads, dope bees, like we had 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.920 the worst team. And then Mike Chatfield came to the jail. 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:10.120 I had knew how Mike Chatfield was from the streets. 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.600 I did all of my favor to get him on 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.280 my side. And like, you can look at this guy, 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:17.560 you can't even tell that he's a baller. But then 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.480 if you look at his arms, he got long arms, 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.800 and you ain't getting the ball from him, you're not stilling. 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:25.440 When you said that, I was like, this is the 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:30.800 craziest ship that I got to. I know he was 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:34.080 expecting to sake Jordan and he said, Mike Chatfield. 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.720 How I tried to embody the stuff that he taught me, 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:39.840 because you know, Mike went to jail at sixteen, right right, 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:41.080 I became jail. 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:41.560 That's what. 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:46.680 I became the best in the hood. When Mike went 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:47.039 to jail. 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:48.320 Wow, I didn't know what I'm saying. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.480 I didn't know that, so it might be me thirty 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:51.960 two to two in the res, right, I heard that 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:56.440 and Street. Oh no, he's from Vernon. He's from Vernon, Okay, 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.360 Michael and Vernon. I mean Mike was playing the men 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:04.359 at twelve and thirteen. You know, at fourteen we were 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.720 playing with always right. So so Mike was like one 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.080 of those guys. And I actually put his name in 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.080 my head the day play against Lebron James on Christmas 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:15.280 two thousand and nine because he got he passed away 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.920 around the holidays and I just wanted to. I always 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:22.480 showed him love. I always showed him love. But Mike 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.520 Chaff was one of those guys and Capone, I didn't hope. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:26.040 Before we get that. 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:29.040 I did know Mike, Mike cap whoever did a chance 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.240 to play professional or no? So okay. 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.680 So when I was in Indiana in my prime, I 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.520 took Mike to Indiana trying to get him back in shape. 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.920 So I was in me. Mike, his brother Eric Chaft, 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.880 Phil Grady Jesse from nas Block was also Saint John's 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:49.160 guy Jahve Me who played at Saint Joe's. And it 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.800 was a love. Okay, we were all out there because 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.560 we was hooping in the pace at Alimo. 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:59.520 Actually he got a low. 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.200 Dribble too, yeah, and he was just all, who've been 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:06.640 you know, we're drinking a gallon in the other day. Yeah, 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:12.440 I think that takes a while, but it was fun 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:14.440 to spend time with Mike, right, you know. And you 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:15.760 knew he was in the street, but I was like, 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:17.200 I got a different love. 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:19.440 Yeah, me too, And he was still knife but you 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.680 saw you can see that he lost it right right, 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.000 right right, But it was it was always when he. 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:24.840 Came home from jail. 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.680 This is he was twenty. I'm twenty, he was twenty five. 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.680 Okay, yeah, that's when he came home because we was again, 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:36.240 yeah he came, he came, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.719 thought that was so honorable you because you could have 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:44.400 easily said Lebron. You could easily said uh uh, Jordans, 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.280 you could have easily and you said Mike Chatfield. Mike 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:47.720 is different. 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.640 Either of these dudes would have been ready for Mike, 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:53.520 I'll be honest, but but his heart different at different level. Yeah, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:54.840 he would he would have. 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:58.439 Just found in the league, right, wow, Okay, I'm talking 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.240 about a brown A little bit. You take component want 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:00.640 I don't. 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:02.480 Want to get yo. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:03.080 Yeah. 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.760 Capone was nice. I played on capone team in PS 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.599 one eleven. We had the green shirts. Havoc was on 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:11.520 the Burgundy team. He had the Burgundy shirts. 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:19.439 Havoc wasn't good though it was not. I haven't was 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:21.040 the best on his take. 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:22.880 Just play. 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.320 Had it. And I remember because I was a kid, 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:27.800 you know what I mean. So I haven't had the 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.480 Burgandy shirts. Kill a shot, to kill a shot. He 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.920 was on the yellow team. He loved the yellow shirt. 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:37.080 And then it was guys twelve. You know, twelve twelve 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.840 had the red shirt, and so it's fourteen. You played 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.040 other like four times. But in the All Star Game, 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:50.719 Tom had sixty nine yo sixty nine yeah, yeah, left man. 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:52.920 And I was watching it and I was a young kid, 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:54.559 and I remember watching. 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.319 It like dang, and that was it. 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.360 Like you never seen Poem play. You see him playing. 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:01.360 He might take a shot on the block. Yeah he 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.240 I just come to yo, all I like one shot. 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:08.520 Well being compoons and DFI the same place, me and 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:11.000 cop On before Mike Caffield got there. Me and Capon 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:14.040 had a pack every time he played each other he 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:15.800 wouldn't d me, and I went and d him. 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.319 So this is the last player the game, like, it's 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:19.960 like tied up. 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:25.240 Compone shot my eyes out, man. I was like, I 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:26.880 was like, you're supposed to move to the side. He 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:28.680 got right in front of me and shot the ball. 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.319 I ain't got the game shot. I was like, it's 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:33.400 some pou had a pack. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:34.679 Have you played with Dion Andrell? 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:40.840 No from I'm from Jamaica, de from from your hed 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.719 you're talking about l Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah Dean, This 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:45.880 it's actually from Jamaica. 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:48.480 I was from Vincess Smith. 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:50.960 Yeah. It was nice, yeah, nice. 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:54.800 Yeah. 0:10:55.600 --> 0:11:01.560 I got locked up with me and then I got 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.600 where Mike Chatfield. That was crazy and like I said, 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:05.120 I knew him. 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:05.840 He was nice. 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.400 So I cheated the whole jail. I was like, yo, 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.800 he's coming on my side, and he dusted everybody obviously 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:12.679 in jail, you know what I mean. 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.240 All Right, So I'm bout through real quick. 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:16.160 First off, you. 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:17.040 Went to Saint Rita. 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:18.000 Yeah, I played that. 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:19.959 Okay, what is that? 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:20.280 That is? 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.439 That was Junior High or Junior High. 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.600 Saint Riders is like when you're nine years old, Okay, 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:28.120 it's c yo. Okay, and you stopped c Io right 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.400 before you go to high school. Okay, that's your last. 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:31.760 And that's like a capital school. 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.319 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:36.800 It made a lot of players that was from New 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:40.040 York and lou Sen de Karine. Anybody from New York 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:44.800 went to WOW in Jersey. In Jersey too, who well. 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.760 Kyrie for St. Patrick's he was, he was in St. 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.600 Patrick's and a couple of them too, Michael Ki gil Christo. 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:56.880 Yeah, I was a willer in our life growing up. 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:03.000 Wow, so boom. This is something that uh, I always 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:08.600 think I had the wrong story. I always thought when 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.000 you and Kobe played each other when you was on 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.439 Houston and you played him hard, and I think you 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:15.240 said to him you ain't ready for me, and he 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:16.920 was like, I ain't what you mean, I ain't ready 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.360 for you. Like y'all developed that certain amount of respect. 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:22.640 But I always thought it was Kobe who called you. 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.920 I found out it was doctor doctor Bus who called you. Yeah, 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.480 doctor Bus and then you met together at the w Hotel. 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:30.440 Yeah, Kobe would not call me to join his team. 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:33.400 This story wrong. 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:37.640 I always thought Kobe because right now, right you know, 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:42.760 how like Lebron is uh taking this talent, taking his talent. 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.520 So everyone is saying that Jalen Bruston it takes a 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:47.240 call from Jaalen Brusten for him to come to the 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.400 next like it would be one phone call. So I 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.280 always thought it was player, the player. So you breaking 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:53.959 it down like it was it was? It was it 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.000 was mister dodtor Bus And yeah, I met at the 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.679 w Hotel after the SLS, Butch met at the So 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.240 describe to me how this happens. Because the Lakers just 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:03.760 beat y'all. 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:06.320 Yeah, they just beat I think, yeah, Ming broke's foot 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:07.760 and then they beat us right right. 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.240 And then so you you you sit down with him. 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.320 And then because because your agent calls you first, right, 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:14.679 your agent said that Lakers. 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:15.880 Wants to go to speak to you, and you're like, 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:16.400 what the fuck? 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:18.360 You're kind of mad at them, a little bit like 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.040 I don't want to I don't want to get done. 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.920 So how is this conversation like in person with doctor Boss? 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:24.719 Well, you know, so I was at the SLS, I 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.560 was foul Monday, I was rid. 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:33.319 Okay with you, and then we was in the car 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:35.760 and when Nick Korn. 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.360 Was there, we was just leaving. I say, yo, we 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.839 got to pull over right now. Okay to my agent 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:43.720 on the line, which David Bauman, and he hit me up. 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:45.520 He's like, he's like, hey, the Lakers want you. 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:45.920 Now. 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.120 Keep in mind, we just went the walk and we 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:49.959 come from arrow where we're not We're not to play 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.800 for the Lakers. You you're staying with your team. You 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:54.640 don't care if you want a title or not. So 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:56.679 when so when they said that, I was like, what 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:57.640 the fuck do they want? 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.480 Right? And these niggas like you know what I mean? 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:02.000 You know what I'm mean? What? 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:03.960 And then he said now he went you on your team, 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:08.719 and I'm like, oh. Immediately I became a fan and 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:10.839 things started to runn through my head. Phil Jackson, my favorite, 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.760 my favorite coach, O l O was there. I'm like, oh, 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:14.480 this is crazy. 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.719 I said, played together as kids, kid, this is this 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:21.480 is this is a very fairy tale story, like wow, 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:21.800 you know. 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:23.720 And then I'm just like, you know, me and Lamar, 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:25.560 me and Lamar elt and we shared m v p 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.200 s and a you Lamar get it, I'll get it, 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:29.640 Eltin and get it and it go just like that, 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.120 you know, And then Kobe's there, who me? I love Kobe, 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.240 you know, what I mean, no matter, And I told him, Yo, 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.120 I'm gonna go holler at you. I'm not gonna like 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:40.800 you in the game, but yo, I admire you like 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:43.600 I don't love Kobe. So so when I was all 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:45.560 going through my head, I'm like, well, I got a 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.360 chance to play against a team that's just like the Bulls, 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.520 like you got Phil Jackson was there, Kobe, that's m J. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:55.080 You got Lamar, that's cool, coach, you got me. I'm 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.680 robbing a little bit better offensive player, a lot better. Sorry, 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:04.000 He's all and I was just like it was just 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.840 so real. And then the next day Bus called me 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:13.200 that morning he said, doctor Bus the Bus, and then 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:17.240 we had we had a breakfast and he was like, listen, 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.800 I'm not gonna be able to pay you what you're worth, 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:23.400 right think, But he said I want you here. And 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:26.800 I'm like, I said you telling me that whatever, we're 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.640 good because you got to think about it. You averaging 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.560 twenty five, you know in a semi final, almost beat 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.760 the Lakers. I want a championship in your prime. Those 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:38.720 those numbers and that I was twenty so numbers at 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:43.440 that time. It's like, you know, twelve years you know, eleven, ten, twelve, 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.680 whatever the number was at that time. Now it's for X, 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.280 you know what I mean. So I was like, now whatever, 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.000 because my life is easy anyway. 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:51.640 You know. 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:52.840 I don't wear Jerry I. 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.280 Did, but my life is so simple. 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.880 I lived in Indiana. I'm like, I'll take that. 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.440 I was like, this is this is easy in l A. 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:02.400 He just me in l A. 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.160 I don't even need to leave, all right. I said 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:06.920 yes right that night to the club. 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.520 So y'all made that deal right then and there at breakfast? 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:10.800 Yeah? 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.480 And okay, wow, yeah right then and there doctor bus 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:15.640 So all right. 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:20.160 So I'm asking this out of here. Do you know 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:21.520 you and Kobe just went at it? 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:22.040 Yeah? 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.160 Do you feel obligated to tell him like. 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.600 Yo, I'm now or or was it accepted that practice 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:29.480 or something like that? How did how did this news 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.680 come across Kobe? Or did Kobe know already? 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:36.360 I got to imagine they told him they didn't tell them? Yeah? 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.800 Yeah yeah, and Kobe Minka. I know Kobe, like he's like, 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:41.800 all right, cool, if you get it done or not, 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:43.960 Kobe won't give him ship, all right, you know what 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.120 I mean, Like try and do it and me and 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:52.120 and we had a relationship because we used to be 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.040 talked a little bit. But back then you don't talk 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:56.280 to your opponent. You don't go on the lunch, you 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.960 ain't doing stuff, you know what I mean. But we 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.680 did like give each other, you know, and then I 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:03.360 would get the ball, steal a ball every now and 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:07.520 then he'd like damn. And so we we grow respect 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:11.240 like that. But yeah, it was dope. He might have 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.639 called me after something like that, maybe briefly like he 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.440 did he said, you know, don't bring that silly ship ahead. 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.040 But that what he wanted you ball, because it was 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.399 like it was like I think I've seen you on 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.879 Brian Scott Show and one of the guys was like this, 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:30.560 this was the perfect piece that the Lakers was missing. 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.240 And I believe that to be true. You know what 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:34.600 I'm saying. 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:38.000 I believe that to be true because like Kobe is 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:39.960 a doll. I'm not saying that other people wasn't. Dogs 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:43.200 Lamar was a doll. But you needed that front line 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.399 all ship, and I believe you replaced that. Do you 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:46.720 think that. 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.159 I mean, if you look at when I played against him, 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:51.920 it was one dribble bucket. If you look at the 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:55.520 seriousness on YouTube, right, and you'll see like you won't 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.880 see a lot of this, right. And when what you'll 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.440 see on the Lakers defense when I get the ball, 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:04.200 you'll see everybody head turn my direction right because you 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.040 can't keep me from getting to the basket. You won't 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:08.560 see hody guarding me that suit right, right, you understand, 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:12.000 right right, because because I'm too sixty to sixty five 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:16.200 forward right, So everybody too small, right, They're all too small. 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.480 They put a power forward on me. He too small, 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.320 right right, put the sin on me. He too small, 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:24.120 And I'll beg with them just to show them they're 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:24.520 too small. 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:24.800 Right. 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:27.200 I was like, I'm not even gonna take you out, 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.280 or I can take him out and I can shoot. 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:31.840 So I was guy was I was torching them, and 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:32.600 I was torching them. 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:33.879 So so let me ask you. 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:38.639 There's a lot of people when they get to Philip Jackson, 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:40.760 they have problems with what is the triangle office? 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:42.840 Or does the trifle offense? 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:46.639 Okay, people actually said it's hard to Actually, you got 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:49.200 to be smart. So for a person that like, like 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.320 a person like me, I just played you know, like 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:55.639 you know Kenyanison tournaments and like you know, and cony 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:58.000 like you know, like regular ships. Like you know what 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.280 I mean for a person like me, can you to 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:01.639 people with the triangle. 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:05.000 Is it's all angles? So it's a thousand and one options. 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:08.399 There is no play calling and you read it. So 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.960 it's like when you move, I move, Okay, you know, 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.720 if the ball moving, you move, it's gonna it's gonna 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:16.840 initiate a different format. 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:17.000 Now. 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.600 Kobe keeping he didn't run a triangle a lot. He 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:21.639 went off on his own. So we always have to 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.119 keep a triangle. We always have to keep a triangle 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:27.840 to triangle, you know. Around Kobe's movement he played Iso, 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:30.440 he was iceoing. But we're still doing the triangle. So 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.199 everybody's still moving according to it. And when they when 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:34.920 they took it to New York, you can see guys 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:35.600 are stressed out. 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:35.800 Man. 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:39.040 Guy, it was like like they got to get this 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:40.760 out of here. And I picked it up in a month. 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:44.399 But you got to understand, I was also architecture, so 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.600 you're telling me it's angles. So a month you said 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:50.120 I got this in the month. Oh wow, whole ship. 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:52.480 How people who still don't get it, they still don't 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:54.879 get it because they actually said it's like it's like. 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:59.000 Like like my math test and yeah you gotta Yeah, 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:01.880 it takes about two years. It takes about two years 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.200 to learn the triangle, like to really adapt it. Wow, 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:06.960 But if you would assist him, like Golden the Warriors, 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:10.480 they're running pieces of the triangle. They running pieces of 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:14.000 the triangle. But they were together for he long, you 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:15.320 know what I mean. So when they run in the 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:18.200 triangle now it starts ninety and it starts ninety four feet, 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:22.080 meaning like when you take the ball out after somebody scored. Nowadays, 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.480 that's when the triangle starts. Back in the day, just 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.720 started after half court And is. 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:30.240 That some Phil Jackson and Ship or all the other 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:31.280 teams are running too. 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:34.479 His text winner text Winner Phil Jackson started with texts right, 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:36.440 you know what I mean? And then and then Phil 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:39.120 took it to the next level, and then Steve Kirk 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:41.359 came from that, and then Steve Kerr goes to the Warriors, 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:43.720 I mean to the Spurs. So now he's getting Popovich 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:46.440 and Phil Jackson. He's bringing that to the Warriors and 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:48.919 it works. It's really hard to lose against them. 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:53.800 Is Phil Jackson the hardest coach you have to play for? Nah? 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:54.560 He's easy man. 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:59.959 He's like not like for example, Rick Adelman, Rick Alman 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:04.320 on a practice day. Times you're gonna you'll be in 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:05.200 and out in forty five. 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:07.239 Yeah, I heard you say. It's like twenty minutes shootout Man, 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:08.560 thirty minute. 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:12.160 Jackson is an hour forty five minutes consistently. But it's 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:15.359 not hard. He's not screaming at you, where some coaches 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:17.800 it take them too long to get the point across. 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:19.359 So you'll beat it for three and a half hours, 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:21.000 and he's like, dude, we know this shit. 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:22.719 You know what I mean? 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:23.879 Like move on? 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:27.720 And did he he was he the first one to 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:28.840 tell you teach you to meditate? 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:32.320 Yeah, Phil Jackson, He's probably reason I changed my name, right, Yeah, 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:35.120 I'm Phil Jackson's I mean, I love him because you're 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:36.960 going to the we'll get in it, we'll get into 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:39.159 a practice, or we'll lose a game something like that, 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:41.960 one of those scenarios and then you know, Kobe, maybe 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:44.400 he'd probably upset you got you got all these egos. 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:44.960 You know. 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:46.560 In the first time I snow a sage in the 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:48.760 locker room, I thought it was he was we right, 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:57.720 I'm like, I see Phil Jackson he's with the Kobe locker. 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:00.879 He was like, went to buying them block up. You 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:09.080 got to get the demons out. Were meditating to all 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:09.640 lights off. 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:11.440 Yeah, I'm about to say I heard you say that 0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:13.399 too as well, Like he would really turn all the 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:13.880 lights off. 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.320 He turned all the lights off, and he wants you 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:18.920 to like block out the sound. You know that white noise. 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:20.520 You didn't have a hit. He's trying to get you 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:22.919 to block out all the sound. Ideally you breathe at 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:26.240 the same pace. Ideally you breathe at the same pace. 0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:29.760 And it's just great man, And he's helping you cause 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:32.480 you in La La is distracting, right, you know what 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:32.719 I mean? 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:34.199 And you you're the show in LA. 0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:37.560 So he's like making sure we focus and when you 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:40.240 leave practice, like don't get in trouble, take care of 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.560 your body, and come back to practice as a team, 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:45.880 not like your own ego. You know, he was really 0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:47.959 so for me. It helped me because I just come 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.560 from averaging twenty five with the Rockets and now I'm 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:52.800 averaging seven. I'm only twenty nine. 0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:53.720 Role player. 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:55.960 Now I'm a role player, and he helped me like 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.280 believe in that role. And then it took. It took 0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:00.439 a while, but we got to do right. 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:03.960 Okay. 0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:08.119 You said earlier that Jordan called you twice. Yeah, the 0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:09.520 time was the brawl. 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:11.160 Second time that call. 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:14.840 Yeah, yeah, man, So you know the brawl happened, I 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:17.960 was super depressed. I was like, damn, like I didn't 0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:18.720 messed everything up. 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:20.200 He was depressed when he broke his ribs to it, 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:20.560 all right. 0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:21.879 Definitely depressed. 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:22.560 Yeah, I was. 0:23:22.920 --> 0:23:26.040 I'm a Jordan fan, like and then so then Jordan 0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:29.600 would he hit me up after the brawl. This is 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:31.879 like a month and a half after and then he 0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:36.240 was like, you know, I spoke to mister Stearns. Yeah, 0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:37.560 he said, I think you're gonna be back in March. 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:38.560 So you know you had that from him. 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:39.760 Jay, you crazy? 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:41.480 All right, Cool, we're gonna get in the playoffs. We 0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:43.600 the best team in the league. Cool, I'll be ready. 0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:47.399 But it wasn't no March. They said, like you could go, 0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:50.560 it's like a visit in jail. I guess, hey, your 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:53.680 wife can come now and she gotta leave now whatever. 0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:55.640 Like they said, you can go to the playoff game, 0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:57.840 but you got to exit. So I was able to 0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:01.119 go to the game. They are afforded me to the 0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:04.000 court to watch Reggie Miller's last game because they was 0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:07.040 like Reggie wanted me there. And then once that was over, they. 0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:11.080 Excorted me out, Wow, you didn't play, You couldn't play. 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:15.800 You just watched the game, Reggie's last regular season game. 0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:17.359 It was crazy. 0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:18.280 All right. 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.080 Now, I know this is a what if question? 0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:25.760 Uh, but if because I heard you say, and I 0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:31.960 heard you say this multiple times that the Ben Wallers 0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:34.920 foul that you you did wasn't a tough foul. 0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:37.760 It wasn't like that. I heard you say that. 0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:40.800 Yes, so let me just imagine something for one second. 0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:44.199 You don't file Ben Willace. Y'all, don't get into this argument. 0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:47.200 Does the Pacers win that championship this day that year? 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:50.280 But Robert already said no, oh ship, he told me 0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:55.360 that save five years ago. But rober is my guy, 0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:57.760 is my guy. And the only TI gonna say, Robert 0:24:57.760 --> 0:24:59.439 you my guy? Right, But the only t I gona say, 0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:01.359 I wanna tell us. So Roberts says no. He's a 0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:04.680 seven time champion, all right, he has the right to 0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:06.440 say no. But what I what I would say is, 0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:09.320 if you watch the playoffs against the Sacramento Kings and 0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:12.800 the spurs, you'll see a great defender, and who is 0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:15.400 the defriend over there the spurs right now. 0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:22.480 That people two thousand. 0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:24.120 And five, Who is the best to wing the friend 0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:25.320 outside of me in the league? 0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:29.000 Big question going? All right, cool, you're going. 0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:33.560 You'll see him null and void on the block light 0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:37.200 work right. Then you'll see nobody else is everybody's nulling 0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:39.320 void because they're too small. These guys are way too small. 0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:42.360 And then you'll see like you know, bigger guys like hey, 0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:45.320 you small forward. You go go out there power forward 0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:47.040 because we got to put the other power forward on me. 0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:50.720 And then you will see work. So now you go 0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:53.320 back to you know that, yeah for sure, Like I 0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:55.800 can't because when you look at those stats. 0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:56.920 If you go on YouTube, when you look at the 0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:58.040 year I played. 0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:00.360 Non games, right, and if you look at how look 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:02.199 at how easy it was for me to score, right, 0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:05.600 you're gonna see one dribble bucket. You ain't gonna see 0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:08.520 more than that. I was at twenty five points. Again, 0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:11.080 it ain't take another jewel because once I see an angle, 0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:14.680 if you wrapped up, you can't recover. I take that jewel. 0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:15.720 I'm cooking. 0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:18.520 You know, I'm strong and like a shoot. Right, So 0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:21.200 you know, so I think that, Yeah, it's like a 0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:24.360 water shular thinking, right, and but you know what, sometimes 0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:26.520 that's your life. Your life is water shular. Like if 0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:29.680 you look at Stephen Curry, you know he had the 0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:32.719 stats to prove it, like, but say, the numbers don't lie, 0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:35.320 Like what his numbers don't lie? I got things I 0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:37.240 could dream about. And guess what I'm okay with that? 0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:41.400 Right? Well? We was we was cooking, right, that's for sure. Right. 0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:46.840 Do you think that was too harsh of a punishment 0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:49.840 because I think it's rumored that you had you had 0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:51.080 the worst punishment. 0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:54.359 Yeah, uh in NBA history. You do you think that 0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:54.840 was fair? 0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:56.679 Look, I don't think it was fair, but they had 0:26:56.720 --> 0:27:00.720 to do it, okay. Yeah, for example, not even an example. 0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:02.840 I was getting into so much trouble, you know what 0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.320 I mean, things people don't know about, you know. 0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:05.679 What I mean. 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:06.800 I was getting in trouble, man. 0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:09.960 I was just like because like I was just coming 0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:13.960 out the league. My brother just went to jail, Wally 0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:16.040 when I was going to Saint John's soon I was 0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:18.200 at seventeen. I expected to go through this journey with 0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:20.760 him because my brother, like I don't have nobody else 0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:21.600 I'm talking to about this. 0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:22.200 I don't know nothing. 0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:25.080 I don't know anything else about I'm not a street 0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:26.359 I'm a street smoke guy, but in a way I 0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:28.520 am in the way I'm not. So he goes to jail. 0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:32.399 Then I have my babies, and then you're making a 0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:34.880 little money. So now alcohol coming to play because you're 0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:37.800 out party. But you don't realize that alcohol is depressing, 0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:39.840 Like you don't realize you know what I mean, Like 0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:42.080 you're drinking honey on top of trying to take it. 0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:44.800 I'm a dad at sixteen, and I was a good dad, 0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:47.560 like i'm with my kids, but I'm a dad at sixteen, 0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:49.920 so all that stuff, you know, you take it out 0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:51.920 on your team, and you know, you go to work 0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:54.080 and whatever you're happen at whole, you take it out 0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:57.600 for your colleague. Yeah, you ain't messing with somebody today. 0:27:57.640 --> 0:27:59.639 That happens in the business, right, And that's what I 0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:01.400 was doing. And so then and then take it whatever 0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:04.040 happened I practice home. But then you know, now you're 0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:06.600 making mistakes, you know. And then I was telling Himen, 0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:08.920 I was hearing you up. I guess earlier in the 0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:11.840 year you have, you know, can when you're looking up 0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.320 to the people in the street, right, it's like, I 0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:17.239 don't fuck you know what I mean, I don't need 0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:18.600 this ship. And that's that. 0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:19.040 That's that. 0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:21.159 That's the crazy mindset when you work hard to make 0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:24.480 something but you don't mind losing it, all right, So 0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:26.520 then now it just becomes like a part of you, 0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:28.119 you know what I mean. So I was getting in 0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.880 trouble the Bulls. When the Bulls traded me to Indiana. 0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:33.320 Bill carright came to my room. He was like meta, 0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.080 he said, can you please stop. 0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:37.760 Right? 0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:40.440 So you come to my room, he said, and he 0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.240 talked to me about a half hour. I love coach Bill. 0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:44.720 He was like, they ready to get rid of you 0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:49.520 right now. But he said, okay, okay. Before I went 0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:51.720 to the Paces, and then I said okay, okay, Bill 0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:53.280 carr Right, then I did something else, got in trouble, 0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.240 and then they shipped me out of there. So I 0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:57.920 can't I say all that because I don't want to 0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:00.960 act like it's all a fault, even though the suspension 0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:01.440 was too harsh. 0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:06.280 Okay, all right, So then after the Paces, you go 0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:12.040 to Sacramento. Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong. I think 0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:18.120 sack Town embraced you. And it was for me outside 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:21.240 looking at and inside of looking out that I started 0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.840 to see you smile again a little bit like like 0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:26.720 like I see you smile again when you went to 0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:30.120 from from from sacrament I believe Sacramento and then Houston. 0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:35.480 But was was that something that like being in Indiana? 0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:37.280 Was that something that you had to like get get 0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:39.480 out of your system? And there was more you wanting 0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:43.520 to leave Indiana because of what was it? I'm as well. 0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:46.280 The crazy thing was like, so two things happened in Indiana. 0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.640 I tried to put in my retirement of papers, right, 0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.400 so right before the brawl, Oh yeah, I called the 0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:53.520 league office. He shout out to the league. I'm tell 0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:55.440 you stories. I'm got a great relationship with the league now. 0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:58.040 But I called a league office, right and I say 0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:01.840 I'm retiring because I was stressed at I'd rather be 0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:04.000 home with queens Bridge than be this stress. 0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:08.040 I'm happy in Queen's Bridge. So then so then they 0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:08.480 called me. 0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:11.040 And like they was like, nah, were not because it's 0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:12.920 really simple. I want to retire, I need the paper, 0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.200 I need the papers, right, But they were. 0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:18.360 Like, you know, hold on why right, Wow, go ahead? 0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:20.239 It was like why And then I got a call 0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:23.120 from Crystal to one of my good friends, Christian, and 0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:24.640 she was like, hold on, think about it. I said, Noah, 0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.600 I need these papers now. After after I heard them out, 0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:29.160 I said, nah, send me those papers. And then I 0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:31.080 talked to my wife. I said, Okay, I'm gonna make 0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:33.440 it through. But I was stressed out. My grandma just 0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.440 passed away that year, and then the bro happened. I'm like, damn, 0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.360 I wish I would retire because what I told him 0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:40.760 was I'm retired this year. I keep the money and 0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:42.840 I'll come back next year, but I need a year 0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:46.080 because I have my I have my children, I'm trying 0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:48.240 to get my house set, and I'm like, I'm away 0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:50.240 so much, like I can't. 0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:52.560 Just don't have nothing to do with rapper this time. 0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.360 I mean I was wrapping that Nature wrote, so I 0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:57.920 already started rapping. I'm inspired by you. 0:30:58.600 --> 0:30:59.040 You heard. 0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:07.040 Eat money Bags. 0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.960 That's crazy, Like you know, I'm You're. 0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:12.920 At Cleveland, like you want to be like like Noah 0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:14.600 showing to be like all these guys. I was already 0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:18.440 rapping at that time. People didn't understand why, because these guys. 0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:20.600 I will come to these guys, you know what I mean. 0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:23.200 But but I forgot where I was going. 0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.120 But you've meeting that time, yea. 0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:30.400 And Sat. 0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:32.480 I get the SAT and I tell coach Adam and 0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.240 r I p coach Autum and he passed away. I 0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:36.760 tell coach at him and I said, listen, I'm trying 0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:38.720 to attire, all right, I don't. I said, I need 0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.120 your help. I said, I need you not to start me. 0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:43.360 When that's the coach that said, no, I'm gonna play 0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:45.000 you more now. Yeah, okay. 0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:47.560 I was like, I need you not to start me. 0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.360 I said, please keep me on the end of the bench. 0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:51.760 And I'm a chair. But I don't want the media 0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.800 to say, oh now, mediworld pieces coming around the test 0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.560 coming sack the middle, causing problems. I said, you can 0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:00.120 keep it under the bench, then I can like he's 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.000 out of here. And he was like nope, he said, 0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:05.200 and they keep him out. When I got there in January, 0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:06.760 they was in the last place in the west. 0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:10.800 Wow, and the west is a toper west to in 0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:11.120 the east. 0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:13.880 At this time, Yes, he said, We're gonna go as 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.040 far as you take me. So we had another half 0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.040 hour conversation. I come out the next day, I say 0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.600 we're going to the playoffs. Media is like hell no, 0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:23.520 hell now it's all documented, Like now y'all hit going 0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:24.040 to the playoff. 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:24.560 They left. 0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:26.440 And keep in mind I was two hundred and seventy 0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.480 three pounds, so my first game in Boston, I was 0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:32.000 two seventy three. Wow, and I was depressed. I went 0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:35.640 from two forty eight two fifty five hours and then 0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:37.000 so it took me a while to get work back 0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:39.640 into shape. But we was Kenny Smith, so I was 0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:44.200 the second half MVP. Like you said, the best record, 0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:49.320 we had the best record in the league. I think 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:50.600 since I got there, I think we had the best 0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:52.600 record in the league. I got there, and we almost 0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:54.760 we dispersed the first World championship. But you know, but 0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.320 Rick Adelman, Yeah for sure, he got me back on track. 0:32:58.520 --> 0:32:59.480 Are you the only. 0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:04.480 Championship basketball player from Queensbridge or there's another? 0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:05.360 Well? 0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:07.640 Do I know Kenny Smith is the only one from left? 0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:07.880 Right? 0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:08.200 Okay? 0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:13.040 Yeah, Well Vernon flemm is the only Olympian Olympian Oh okay, wow, 0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:14.440 you know Vern's from my block. 0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.560 He has a baby by his his cousin got a 0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:19.600 baby by my cousin Aaron. 0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:22.640 He coached you at one time right now in Indiana. Okay, yeah, 0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:23.360 it's crazy. 0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:25.120 I was playing for Vernon Fleming and he didn't come 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:26.440 back to the hood as much as I came back. 0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:28.840 And you would hear a certain things, you know, people chatter, 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:33.640 you might heard things about you, yeah, anything, they they 0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:36.680 changed and about everybody. Because I was like all the 0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:39.680 young dude, I got something listitary everybody plain about everybody, 0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:44.000 you know what I mean. But but Vernon was that guy, 0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:45.600 and then I was. Now I should have been an 0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:49.120 Olympia but because of the bro ain't no defensive player 0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:51.760 of the Year the year of the Olympia. Yeah, not 0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:55.680 going to but so they kept me out that you know. 0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:57.080 But but yeah I'm the only champion. 0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:03.760 Now, what's the owners of the Sacramento Maloose? You have 0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:12.239 to Queen's Bridge with no security. I love these guys 0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.960 have a billionaires correct at the time they was. 0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:18.359 The real estate crash in two thousand and eight. Heard 0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:19.560 them and now they back up. 0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:23.800 Okay, so all right, they're surpribed you. You were inviting 0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:26.080 them to. This is one of the wildest but one 0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:28.440 of the most funniest projects in the world and. 0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:29.080 It's the biggest. 0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:29.720 It's the biggest. 0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:33.239 So you're surpribed, you inviting them, Like, how did this go? 0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:37.000 Well? These guys are incredible, probably some of the best 0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:37.680 owners I had. 0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:41.600 Oh wow, because you out with them, they're coming out too. Yeah, 0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:42.000 you out. 0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:45.560 You know, we all in the club. We are together. 0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:47.200 So I said, hey, y'all want. 0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:49.719 To come to the Hood and Gavin and then Joe 0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:52.040 was like yeah. I said, all right, cool, and they 0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:54.240 show up with our security. I'm like, you guys, don't secret. 0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:57.120 So we go to the Queen's Bridge. We just hang out. 0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:01.000 We're drinking with a park in the hood. Okay, you 0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:04.879 don't go on the dime het Okay, I'm from. 0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:05.840 T Street, but I always. 0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:08.880 And then then we went up the Kingdome. 0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:09.399 Wow. 0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:12.720 Crazy, So me and Kingdom they got right now, Kingdom 0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:17.279 taking two separate. Kingdom is the best tournament in New 0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:21.200 York ever. Oh wow, Rutgers got the Kingdom? Is that thing? 0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:22.080 Okay? 0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:24.719 A Kingdome dark is coming up over the last couple years. 0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:28.000 Kingdom is like, so, so I bring them the Kingdome 0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:30.080 And it's crazy that you just got out of prison. 0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:31.600 That day. 0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:35.239 He had fifty seven on me. Honestly, the game was 0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:37.719 lit me and him getting into it, you know what 0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.839 I mean. And then the malose is like drinking nutcrackers. 0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:45.240 In the stands. They got to go to the bathroom. 0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:50.239 I'm like, ain't no potty. They go up to somebody's crib. 0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:55.320 The maloose used the bathroom in the hood, and they 0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:59.400 start throwing money. They start throwing money, and you know 0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:01.680 the niggas like, yo, who throwing money on me? 0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:06.960 Like I'm a stripper. They look back kingo okay, king okay, 0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:10.320 and the Delicious they just haven't. 0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.880 And then there was they got a little altercation like sorry, 0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:16.399 my own They don't mean no harm. 0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:17.760 They haven't. 0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:22.080 Yeah, but they shut out to these That just makes 0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:27.360 a book. They were let off those nut crackers. The 0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:29.000 fact that they went to the hood that didn't win 0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:30.839 to because Kingdoms is uptown. 0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:31.439 Right uptown? Okay? 0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:33.240 Yeah, okay, great tournament. 0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:35.920 And oh man, I gotta big them up. That's security 0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:43.360 though they definitely should have. Yeah I got and uh and. 0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:46.480 Let's talk about. 0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:51.239 The league that you're coaching right now, because they didn't 0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:52.600 they make history this. 0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.719 Year girls, Yeah, okay, so over the last seven years, 0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:59.160 well actually during my NBA career. My last couple of seasons, 0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:01.279 I was coaching Palace his girls high school. So I 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:03.160 would leave my Laker practice to go to Parli States 0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:06.160 and coach the girls. This coach was like, his name 0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:08.319 is coach Terrino Johnson. He was like, yo, you want 0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:09.520 to come coach. I said, yeah, I want, I want 0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:11.360 to coach. I might as well get started. So he 0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:13.960 introduced me and he got the job at cal State. 0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:15.960 He left high school with cal State and I went 0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:18.480 with him. So I've been there for seven for seven years. 0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:21.560 And when we got there, I mean it's Division two, 0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:24.760 so here's no budget. I mean, girls is in school 0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:27.480 and they might him to practice depending on what school 0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:30.239 you at. Wow, cal State was in. It started in 0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:32.960 nineteen forty seven. They never won anything. We get there, 0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:35.000 you know, and then so anyway, seven years later we 0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:38.720 had taped Division two program. We won the CCA Tournament 0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:39.920 for her first time in history. 0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:40.719 So we got out. 0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:43.440 This is last year or this year we stuck. We 0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:45.960 got division We play against Division one and we beat 0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:48.120 a few Division ones so we could keepete with a 0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:49.520 lot of Division ones, not the top ones. It's not 0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:53.160 like you know, the big USC those ones is a 0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:55.759 little bit difficult. But this year it's different. This year 0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:58.160 we different for sure. And then we had a first 0:37:58.200 --> 0:37:59.439 ever Player of the Year, so we got a Player 0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:03.480 of the Year. So yeah, it's pretty good. 0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:03.600 Man. 0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:05.120 It's a lot of fun. I love coaching women. 0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:09.200 If the Knicks was a call you, let's say we 0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:11.640 need an assistant, would you take an assistant? Joe I 0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.719 tried to get their head coaching job last year. 0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:15.919 I was I made a lot of noise. 0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:16.640 I think you told me that. 0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.480 I think I'm using the inside of a mixture right now. 0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.520 I made a lot of noise. I was no representation. 0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:24.239 That would have been dope. Hold on, this is to 0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:28.520 think about coaches. Then this this year why they won. 0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:30.759 Well, the reason so last year I was making a push. 0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.680 Now keep in mind, I'm not represented by anybody. I 0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.200 got my own stuff. So the politics on that side 0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:38.719 is like they know who they want because they don't 0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:41.080 know what I'm doing. But there's also coaches that don't 0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:43.680 have no experience like I got that get those jobs. 0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:45.880 So but the nick job what I saw is this 0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:48.840 when Jalen Person came to New York and it is 0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:50.920 a clip going around. Okay, we're people are like, now 0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:52.160 it's not gonna work, not gonna work. 0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.279 I was like, hell, no, this is gonna work. You 0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:56.160 gonna lie. I was with one of the people. I'm sorry, Jay, 0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:57.800 that was one of the people that I didn't. 0:38:57.800 --> 0:38:58.640 I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. 0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:00.879 I didn't see the fix. And so until I see 0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:03.719 him play in the NIXT uniform and I was like, oh, 0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:05.360 this kid is kind of kind of good. And I 0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:06.120 didn't see it at first. 0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:07.719 He said have you seen him in Dallas? We would 0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:09.400 have been like wow, okay, you know what I mean. 0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:11.919 So so when he when he got there, I'm like wow. 0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:13.560 And then I didn't think the job was gonna open. 0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:16.960 I was in Canada, where I live, and I spoke 0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:17.759 to your future. 0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:19.160 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. 0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:21.279 And I was in Canada and when I seen coach 0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:23.200 Timms got fired, like oh, I got to get on 0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:25.359 my job. And I got a tweet because this thing 0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:29.239 happened fast. When when when somebody get fired, someone's usually. 0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:31.239 Hired, right, you know what I mean? So you tried 0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:31.959 to get that highed. 0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:33.720 I tried to get in. So I started a tweet 0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:35.960 talk about it, and I was gaining the momentum amongst 0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:39.520 the New York Is and and then the reason why 0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:41.560 I wanted that job because of Jail and Brunts. 0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:44.600 And I'm like, I gotta I keep, I keep I 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:48.160 keep thinking, I keep saying this because so I got 0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:49.960 I'm asking you the same question twice. 0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:51.160 But I loved it. 0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:55.280 But I was it Jayleen Bruston or was the squad? 0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:57.120 Because because what was my man? 0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:57.479 Heart? 0:39:58.280 --> 0:39:59.320 Was Heart there already? 0:39:59.480 --> 0:39:59.960 Hart was there? 0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:03.840 Okay, all right, cool? So all right, and let me 0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:11.560 ask you this question, because you were basketball experienced, right, 0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:14.560 did you think there's gonna win the Chip? Though? 0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:17.279 I thought, with me they would have won the Chips. 0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:19.160 And this is before Mike Ground, before they won a Chi. 0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:21.799 I thought, I was, you know, I would help them 0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:24.440 win the Chip and because of Jail and Brunson. And 0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:26.480 then they had Cat and they got the other pieces, 0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:29.399 and that's what that's what I felt at the time. 0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:31.680 You know, they didn't have Cat in the beginning of 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.799 the season though, right, I think came in later this year. 0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:39.680 This you're talking about last year, I think he was. 0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:41.840 There already, but you know, Jail and Bruns and I 0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:43.239 saw us have the game and I saw how he 0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:45.080 playing if you watch him in Dallas. 0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:46.160 It was like, oh shit, I got job. 0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:48.960 You only get one shot at certain things. So I said, 0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:50.759 I'm gonna go for it, you know what I mean. 0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:52.960 And and then I was surprised that Mike Brown got 0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:53.319 the job. 0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.320 I thought they was looking at other people, you know. 0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:59.279 So I love his story and I found out his 0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:00.960 story is That's what I was really sold. Like when 0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:04.120 I found out his father is I believe the assistant coach, 0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:12.040 mister Yeah. And I found out that actually Jayleen, the 0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:17.000 son was at the next game when he lost Philadelphia. 0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:20.359 I was like, that's like the Leo Messy story right now, 0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:22.600 It's like the soccer story like when the kids. 0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:26.520 When the Kids is like, so, okay, yeah, that was 0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:27.080 a great story. 0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:29.399 I saw that. Yeah, but what what would you would 0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:32.279 you would you take a sister's job or if it 0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:34.520 was offered or because because didn't you work with the 0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:35.400 Knicks or something like that. 0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:38.800 I do a lot with the lakers Paces next that 0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:40.920 they are playing for community service works. Okay, you know 0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:44.440 what I mean, And I'll do it. I'm coaching right now. 0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:47.680 I kind of like to I enjoy what I'm doing. 0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.360 So I'm coaching girls I got a lot of experience. 0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:53.399 I'm a head coach right and I don't feel bad 0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:56.240 about that position that I'm playing. 0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:57.040 You know. 0:41:57.440 --> 0:42:00.480 Will I be an assistant, Yeah, but I think I'd 0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:03.360 rather be with my family than being an assistant. No disrespect, 0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:05.120 you know about it. You know what I mean. I'd 0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:07.839 rather spend time because I'm I'm not going to coach 0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:09.839 a long time. Once I get that head coaching job, 0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:12.719 the clock is on, you know, because I'm not. I'm 0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:15.080 not I'm not staying that long. If I stay five 0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:18.040 years or something like that. So every it ain't a 0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:21.960 head coaching job then right now it's like nothing and 0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:25.400 a crazy thing about it. So on March fourth, I 0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:27.239 get it. My head coach to Renal Johnson, gets a 0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:30.640 call a tech from Mike Brown and then Mike Brown 0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:32.440 shout out to Mike Ground. Played for Mike Brown. Indiana 0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:35.839 plays with Mike Ground the Lakers, and then he said, 0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:37.719 I want you to get I want you to get 0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:40.000 on on a on a call with BOC Brinda Conna. 0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:42.600 I played for Brindal Conna Indiana team, and I want 0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:44.239 you to talk about some defense. So then my head 0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:47.239 coach to Renal Johnson, So this is March fourth, and 0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:48.719 I want you to look at what they did since 0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:51.759 March fourth. So then my head coach to Reno Johnson says, 0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:53.960 you'll met. I'm about to get on a call with 0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:57.120 with BOC because they want to talk about some defense. 0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:59.640 I'm like, oh shit, so I run a defense. You 0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:04.200 know what I right for the Knicks. Okay, okay, okay, okay. 0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:06.960 So so apparently I think people were watching how we play. 0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:12.000 My style is incredible, So so we going over the defense. 0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:14.759 So I'm saying I coached Johnson. I just give them this. 0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:15.880 I watched the game. 0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:17.480 I watched them the games, and then I went gave 0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:20.480 him assessin. I said, you should talk about this, you 0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:23.080 should talk about this. Well since March fourth, they were 0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:24.040 forty six and nineteen. 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:24.520 Wow. 0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.800 And when you look at so that validates that I 0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:32.759 can coach. And my gout I got Cam because Cam 0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:35.000 says him, I got made. So I played with Mason Ruger, 0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:38.400 we played for Diddy Rutker, we got championship together, and 0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:39.840 you a mace. 0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:42.840 Think in the game a. 0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:43.520 Little bit, Okay. 0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:47.440 Then I heard and I heard him though too. 0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.200 Cam was good. But then they were talking about like 0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:52.440 you know, I don't have any experience from when I 0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:54.439 hit up cam, I'm like, I'm like, do you gotta 0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:57.680 do your research? This is not meta from Queensbridge Like, 0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:00.399 I'm a I'm a I'm a coach. I'm a professional coach. 0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:03.160 I'm forty six years old. So said I hit up Caming. 0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:04.600 He was like, he's gonna have me on the show whatever. 0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:07.759 But then the narrative was I'm not coaching. You know, 0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:09.680 people saying I'm not coaching, right. 0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:12.880 So why they don't look at the women's like like 0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:14.399 a real coach. 0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:16.319 It's just politics when you get sports money at stake, 0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:19.239 So if your client has the opportunity to go grab 0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:23.239 a bag, why you're gonna mark me? Right, I'm coming 0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:26.560 in independent. I'm an independent, I'm an independent artist. I 0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:29.600 don't need nothing right and I'm not letting nobody pick 0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:32.719 my staff. I had another job for San Jose right, 0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:35.040 they wanted to hire me, right, but they was like 0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:37.480 for women's for women's coaching, where they wanted to pick 0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:40.680 my staff. I'm trying to win the championship and if 0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:42.080 you look at what they did the ship at three 0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:43.080 and twenty seven or something. 0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:45.560 While I'm not nobody. 0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:49.520 Because I know who I want. I need alpha dogs. 0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:52.359 I need people that can threaten my job. I need 0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:54.840 alphas around them. I don't want to know you know 0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:55.160 what I mean? 0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:59.359 So I want like Rashie Wallace, You know what I mean? Yeah, 0:44:59.360 --> 0:44:59.640 I want. 0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:01.080 I don't want Stephen Jackson. 0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:04.560 Who else did you know I need? I need? I 0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:07.800 need people that's like gonna challenge me, because then you 0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:10.440 have that confrontation, you agree to disagree, and you get back. 0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:13.000 I don't even nobody, so you know what I'm like, hell, 0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:14.200 and I'm not like y'all pick my stuff. 0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:18.000 That also shows That also shows confidence for the players 0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:20.320 when they see the coaches so so animated. 0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:26.160 Yeah competitive, But well, let me ask you this, because 0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:28.560 your style is like so rough, like straight to it, 0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:31.680 like you ever think that you too rough for the girls. 0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:36.920 Or like no, I'm a coach, right, It's not like 0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:37.560 when I played. 0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:38.759 You know, Okay, okay, okay. 0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:43.640 Coaching my girls, you know now, I'm implementing Phil Jackson stuff. 0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:46.480 I'm meditating with my girls. I'm making sure they get 0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:49.200 to school. I'm not screaming up my girls. But if 0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:51.520 you if you talk to my girls, they probably never 0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:54.360 heard me raise my voice for the exception of we 0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:56.080 had a few that was just like me. 0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:57.799 I girls just like. 0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:02.400 Really and I had to like control him. And but 0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:04.600 I always talked to my girls like you know how 0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:07.000 you feel, you know this, this is how I coach. 0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:08.759 I let him know I'm gonna be a man. I'm 0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:12.000 not coaching like like nobody else. I'm coaching like me, 0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:14.200 and they let me coach like me. So we have 0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:18.200 an understanding and and it's all good. Yeah, show they 0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:18.440 like it. 0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:20.560 Pulled up and say, coach, I saw video. 0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:27.719 Come Oh, I mean as who you are and what 0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:31.000 you're leading and what you're giving them as mentor coach. 0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:32.319 They got to be like, nah, he's a. 0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:33.759 Dog too, I got to know who he is. 0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:36.400 Yeah. Sometimes sometimes they might watch maybe you watch a 0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:39.040 clip right when you meet me in person, I'm forty six, 0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:40.760 you know, and mature. 0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:41.920 Yeah, I'm holding that. 0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:45.759 That's like going, that's like glory may I heard some 0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:50.160 of your musics, like, like hold on. 0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:57.640 Many last I was here, we didn't do flowers. 0:46:57.680 --> 0:47:00.440 We gotta we got to what the flowers. Our shows 0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:03.239 about giving people their flowers, they thought so they could 0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:17.040 sell them. This is before you walked in. We were 0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:24.360 watching this is Fire and we were watching and it 0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:26.600 was the first it was it was playing a game 0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:30.759 when you first wore World Peace jersey, and it was 0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:32.719 a clip with lead this when you first got to 0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:36.320 the next and don't I don't think you wanted to 0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:37.759 wear that jersey at that time? 0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:39.239 What happened explaining to that? 0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:41.680 It was wild? So like I changed my name to me. 0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:44.560 I became a Buddhist huh in two thousand and nine, 0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:46.239 and then I was I was still practicing and I 0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:49.640 played for Phil. Ironically, I said, this is he's saying, 0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:54.880 we win the championship, and I wanted with controls. 0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:58.040 I won a championship by having enter control. 0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:02.680 So now I'm like, I'm all in on Buddhist. Then 0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:04.319 I can't, and then I'm like, okay, I'm gonna change 0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:08.520 my name. So initially I was looking at two Indian 0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:11.080 types style names Medas an Indian name from the Indian culture, 0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:14.360 and then I was looking at another last name. Initially 0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:16.480 it was actually so Hood, so that was my first option. 0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:26.279 Well I was wrong. I actually had the shirt, you know, 0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:28.920 and then it evolved to like, but as I got 0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:31.719 older in my mind it was evolving, so you know, 0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:33.120 as I said, okay, let me, let me stick to 0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:33.360 more me. 0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:33.839 So then. 0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:36.760 When I saw it was like, you know, I picture 0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:39.000 on thousands of names and then the last name was 0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:41.800 like meta imagine like meta group or Metasuja. I'm like 0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:44.000 it's too much like for me. I'm like, I can't 0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:47.640 have two Indian names. I'm not an Indian. So then 0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:49.120 I was trying to go for a different last name, 0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:51.000 and the world piece just hit. I'm like, I'm the 0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:52.359 only shake. If he was going through the war at 0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:54.440 that time, you know what I mean, he was going 0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:56.640 through the wall Middle Eastern War Iraq. 0:48:58.280 --> 0:48:59.799 And look at the look at the title. 0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:00.520 You're an outbum. 0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:05.520 I never asked you about it, but you know the 0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:07.920 tragedy like you know, thank you. 0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:08.760 This is incredible. 0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:11.040 So you know, when you when you look at people, 0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:13.920 people don't understand about tragedy. As a young kid that's 0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:16.400 trying to find his way in the neighborhood, you know, 0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:18.560 find his way in life. Like you listen to the tragedy, 0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:20.360 you know what I mean, that's all we got. I 0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:24.040 can't trust. I can't trust what I he did. Tragedy 0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:26.359 is saying this is how he laying it out. That's 0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:27.680 how that's where we go to school. 0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:27.959 Last. 0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:31.800 So now I don't want necessarily want to get in trouble, 0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:34.480 you know, but I want to I listen. I say, okay, 0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:36.759 if I make these right decisions, and if I listen 0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:39.400 to you know what, you know kind of how he's saying, 0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:43.200 if you make a wrong move, you know you're gonna 0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:43.839 go to jail. Something. 0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:48.640 He was talking about the rest of the president too, you. 0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:51.560 Know what I mean, the back then, and then you 0:49:51.600 --> 0:49:54.440 know my cousin, my brother in the little hostuff. You know, 0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:57.000 he's like, he's the only one that got three babies 0:49:57.520 --> 0:50:00.680 by my sister, but everybody else got for baby mamas, 0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:04.920 but hostile passed away. Screwball, right, and then even if 0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:07.640 you look at the record they made about Giuliani. Wow, 0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:10.640 so right, So as I'm listening to this stuff and saying, 0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:14.439 how could I take this and understand what they're saying. 0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:16.959 So then when you talk about world peace and people 0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:19.440 say you calling him it's crazy, I'm like, nah, that 0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:25.200 sails the walk going out going on outside, nobody's safe 0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:28.319 from Like, how could I inspire somebody from the hood. 0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:30.640 That's why when I went to the league. The reason 0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:33.359 I kept representing the streets was because I wanted them 0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:35.319 to know I didn't forget about them, And I also 0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:37.239 wanted them to know, like, you know, you don't have 0:50:37.320 --> 0:50:41.120 to be in trouble, like you could do things on 0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:44.040 from a positive perspective and focus on your family. You 0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:46.520 don't have to don't take debate, you know what I mean. 0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:48.759 And I learned that from people like Tragedy, you know 0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:53.000 what I mean, just listening to my albums and of 0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:56.040 course you know, and you know Nasis like he's different, 0:50:56.200 --> 0:50:58.239 he's like a superstar all this stuff, but he also 0:50:58.320 --> 0:51:00.080 has a lot of great messaging he does, you. 0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:02.560 Know what I mean. I'm speaking about Naves. Is it 0:51:02.719 --> 0:51:05.920 true that in the middle of jay Z and Nives 0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:08.640 going to war you hung out with jay Z or 0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:10.160 you brung jay Z to the hood, or he gave 0:51:10.160 --> 0:51:12.000 you a rocke like this. 0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:18.560 I'm gonna like this up. We don't know, Yeah, yeah, 0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:21.239 drink check the drink Champs normally got a baby by 0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:22.600 my cousin. This is a show. 0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:27.040 And uh, I'm gonna like this up. Yeah yeah, yeah 0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:34.640 yeah to no. 0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:38.600 So is that true? 0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:42.360 Uh? After you hung out with Jyll gave you a 0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:44.440 you played for him in Record Park or something right 0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:44.719 in the. 0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:46.719 Middle of j and Ives going the war. 0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:50.520 Yeah, they owe me an apology. The record it. Now 0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:53.040 you owe me the first apology. Now I's one me 0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:57.040 like a I understand that an apology. So what happened 0:51:57.160 --> 0:52:00.800 was like I'm a I'm a freshman at Saint John's. 0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:04.200 Okay, okay, this is okay, coolte. 0:52:03.600 --> 0:52:06.640 Ninety Okay, I started to build a relationship with Rockefeller. 0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:09.840 Hip hop Okay, so I start the relationship with Rockefeller. 0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:13.879 Now keep in mind, we idolize Nas like he's Michael 0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:18.160 Jordan and also beyond Michael Jordan's you know so so, 0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:21.239 but Nas was like busy in ninety seven. I guess 0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:23.120 he's not in the hood a lot, you know what 0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:24.600 I mean, So we don't. I don't see him a 0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:26.120 lot unless hes don't know. He's going on his side. 0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:29.560 But I'm staying on my side. So anyway, I happened 0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:34.560 to have a relationship with the Rockefeller and not. Now, 0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:36.040 keep in mind, I know wherez like these. 0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:39.560 I played ball winz every on the weekends, man wiz yeahkay, okay. 0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:42.920 From Bravehouse. You see I see the Brave Hauts. 0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:45.279 Okay, but I don't see Nas Okay, so. 0:52:45.480 --> 0:52:47.120 I don't have a relationship with nas. First time I 0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:52.480 met Nas, you know, was he Lloyd, And I said, damn, 0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:55.960 why can't I mean Nas man? So I was fifteen, 0:52:56.000 --> 0:52:57.800 and Lloyd said, yo, Na's coming through right now. So 0:52:57.880 --> 0:52:59.040 he came through. He came on. 0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:01.120 He in a minivan. 0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:03.239 And it's the first time I seen diamonds that look 0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:03.920 like rainbows. 0:53:04.000 --> 0:53:05.439 Okay, I'm like, damn. 0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:09.880 And then now I'm staying through the first time, my 0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:12.120 first time I met him literally as a you know, 0:53:12.360 --> 0:53:13.520 and this is ninety nine. 0:53:13.680 --> 0:53:18.200 No, this was ninety six or ninety five, Okay, first 0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:20.560 time I met nine. Okay, you know in terms of like, 0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:22.960 you know, I'm doing my thing, he's doing he's he's 0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:24.880 already doing this thing. And you know, this kid from 0:53:24.920 --> 0:53:26.200 the hood look up to you want to meet you. 0:53:28.920 --> 0:53:30.560 I met NOAs and then so that that's that's it. 0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:34.000 And then after that, I played a relationship with Rockefeller. 0:53:34.280 --> 0:53:36.880 Rockefeller had a relationship with Saint John's right, you know, 0:53:37.000 --> 0:53:39.480 So I'm like dinners with these guys. I'm going into 0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:42.040 the office with Dame you know what I mean. I'm 0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:44.680 in the office at the Rocke at the Rockefeller Rockaware 0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:49.760 Rockaway Rockefeller where. So so I'm getting like free stuff 0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:52.160 and keep in mind, yeah, I mean I don't got nothing. 0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:55.200 I still don't got nothing, like Ja Laurian used to 0:53:55.239 --> 0:53:55.480 give me. 0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:58.439 Five dollars like lawyer, yeah, young Okay. 0:53:59.080 --> 0:54:01.799 So so then I'm like, all right, cool, jay Z's 0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:04.160 a rapper who I listened to jay Z? Actually I 0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:06.640 wasn't a big jay Z fan. I got Cedric from 0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:08.759 twelve Sheet was a big jay Z fan. I was 0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:12.440 listening to old school music. Good okay, So then he 0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:15.960 loved jay I learned about jay Z from Cedric. So 0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:18.719 then so then you know, so you're so we're hanging 0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:21.640 out and I develop a relationship now and in the 0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:23.840 back of my mind, I'm like, dad, I wish I 0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:25.880 had a relationship with NAS, right because I look up 0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:32.560 the NAS. So anyway, that fast forward and right before 0:54:32.560 --> 0:54:34.960 I'm about to announce, I'm going to the NBA, I 0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:37.040 go to the Rockefeller office. I say, yo, I'm about 0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:40.360 to announce, because now I'm like, how Lebron is with 0:54:40.480 --> 0:54:44.440 Jay in ninety seven? Lebron is fourteen, right, right, so 0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:46.960 he was I was Jay was like I think I 0:54:47.080 --> 0:54:49.359 was being prepped to be on like a Rock Nation 0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:51.080 type of thing. They were already thinking about this. 0:54:51.320 --> 0:54:52.080 Okay, wow. 0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:53.600 So I was like, you, I'm gonna wear a Rockefeller. 0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:55.919 I'm gonna weird. I mean, I'm a rock and were 0:54:56.480 --> 0:54:58.600 into my press conference and I did my press conference 0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:00.839 in the hood of Quensbridge. I already had a planning 0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:04.799 in the recenter. The I didn't know they have beef. 0:55:04.880 --> 0:55:06.960 Okay, I didn't know. 0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:07.520 I didn't know. 0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:11.640 I know, you know what I mean. 0:55:12.080 --> 0:55:17.799 Honestly, the beef launched like three days before. Look at 0:55:17.840 --> 0:55:19.880 the date when the beef lunch. So I'm like, oh 0:55:19.920 --> 0:55:22.399 my goodness, Like, do I tell Rocket Fellow, I don't 0:55:22.400 --> 0:55:24.000 want beef for these names. But I can't wear your 0:55:24.040 --> 0:55:27.480 stuff because you got beef from my men, right, So 0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:30.600 now you know? And then I'm like, yo, they were 0:55:30.600 --> 0:55:35.560 they using me as a poem. That's a fair cesstem. 0:55:39.280 --> 0:55:42.600 I go through it. Now, keep in mind, that's dangerous 0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:46.520 because now I'm not not even older guys, the guys 0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:49.799 my age. That's like, yo, what Rocky way in the hunt? 0:55:50.480 --> 0:55:52.040 So that was danger but I went but I went 0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:53.520 on with it, and I never heard from Rocky. I 0:55:53.560 --> 0:55:58.240 never heard from the news again. And then I gotta imagine. 0:55:58.320 --> 0:56:02.840 I was like, yo, this is good ship. I spoke 0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:06.640 briefly about it, like not a lot. I spoke brief medium. 0:56:07.080 --> 0:56:09.560 We had dinner with Nas. Shout out the NAS coat. 0:56:09.600 --> 0:56:10.160 I went to the coat. 0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:13.839 Yeah, we want in New York. 0:56:14.600 --> 0:56:18.280 On that crazy. 0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:21.000 But so anyway, now you fast forward, it's like and 0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:24.880 then before that, I ain't even know Damon jay Z 0:56:25.080 --> 0:56:25.680 had a problem. 0:56:26.800 --> 0:56:30.719 Wait wait what back? 0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:33.800 Okay, Okay, okay, me and Cam we do the we 0:56:33.920 --> 0:56:40.120 do the rock o where launch okay, close, and they 0:56:40.200 --> 0:56:42.279 did a photo shooting and I'm showing up because I 0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:44.719 got a relationship with rock with right, so I'm thinking, oh, 0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:46.920 sh j J not head, but this is. 0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:48.600 Gonna be okay. And and it's out there you can 0:56:48.640 --> 0:56:49.000 look at. 0:56:48.920 --> 0:56:50.399 It, right, okay, but they got beef. 0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:52.719 So now it's like, oh, I wasn't I said, oh, 0:56:52.719 --> 0:56:53.759 I wasn't supposed. 0:56:53.400 --> 0:56:57.279 To do this when you're there, no after because I. 0:56:57.640 --> 0:56:59.360 Know they have beef. So I'm like, damn, I'm in 0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:02.160 between some I'm just trying to I'm trying my pro 0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:05.400 so I'm trying to attach myself to something hot, right, 0:57:05.440 --> 0:57:07.880 you know what I mean. And then like so that 0:57:08.040 --> 0:57:10.520 was like a witch and I'm also working on an album. 0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:13.160 I was also start working on my album, so I'm 0:57:13.160 --> 0:57:15.960 hoping I can get like some verses, some good beats. 0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:18.160 So that kind of like and then then. 0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:20.360 Then fast forward into when they first hit the stage. 0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:24.120 So you got Jay, you got Nas, you got Lebron. 0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:26.120 I show up for NAS, and I get a call 0:57:26.200 --> 0:57:29.760 from Killer Kids, Rock Charlie, Yo, maybe maybe wiz And 0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:34.760 and Jungle. Okay, somebody said, Yo, be here, and Childie 0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:36.840 is like, Yo, you gotta be there. I'm all right, 0:57:36.920 --> 0:57:39.200 make it happen. So I was right there before they 0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:41.840 walk on the stage. I'm like, I know I'm going 0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:46.440 up there, you know. And then I ain't even see 0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:49.240 I said, I said, I'm gonna go up there just 0:57:49.320 --> 0:57:52.640 to be like I And then I saw Lebron. I said, oh, 0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:55.800 I know, I'm next one. I got a whole down 0:57:55.800 --> 0:57:58.200 on my guy, you know what I mean. And I 0:57:58.400 --> 0:58:01.320 was Jay Nas and wrong and I was kind of 0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:02.840 I was like, I was kind of hurt, and then 0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:05.320 you know, and then I was like, you never got 0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:06.120 to get on the stage. 0:58:06.360 --> 0:58:14.520 No, So then so I have to excuse I have. 0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:17.080 I have a case I should have been on that stage. 0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:19.240 That's a different way of the Yeah, you know what 0:58:19.280 --> 0:58:19.560 I mean. 0:58:19.880 --> 0:58:20.000 Uh. 0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:23.000 And then also I just wanted to get those two down, 0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:28.120 like yo, like rock rock rockaway while y'all stop messing 0:58:28.160 --> 0:58:30.160 with me. Right when I gave you my time. I 0:58:30.200 --> 0:58:33.600 think my time was somewhat valuable. And then how you 0:58:33.720 --> 0:58:40.000 guys as friends now didn't talk to me. Okay, where 0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:41.840 do I fall into this category? 0:58:42.480 --> 0:58:45.120 You know what I mean? To be clear, they weren't 0:58:45.160 --> 0:58:46.560 paying you to do the rock, so you were just 0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:46.880 doing it. 0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:49.880 No, I ain't pay you. I didn't get paid. Just yeah, 0:58:50.120 --> 0:58:52.160 just looking in a relationship like cause I'm trying to 0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:54.760 I'm in the front New York Brooklyn sat down and 0:58:55.800 --> 0:58:58.040 I got my name from uptown, Like I'm just trying to. 0:58:58.120 --> 0:58:58.960 I'm about to go pro. 0:58:59.760 --> 0:58:59.880 You know. 0:59:00.000 --> 0:59:01.400 The first thing I did was when I got When 0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:04.080 I went pro, I shout out gods and mall. 0:59:03.960 --> 0:59:06.400 Deep, but they were standing on stage. 0:59:06.840 --> 0:59:08.760 That's the first thing I did, shout out to the mall, 0:59:09.240 --> 0:59:11.600 shout out, thinking like we're gonna come together, Like we're 0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:14.960 gonna come together. I got some bread. I know what's 0:59:15.000 --> 0:59:16.520 happening in the hood. I know niggas could use a 0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:19.120 little investments. I was the first investor in MS records 0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:20.720 with no contract. 0:59:21.360 --> 0:59:22.000 That's just cash. 0:59:22.360 --> 0:59:25.160 Wow, I gave I started, I gave. 0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:26.520 I gave you Prodigy to cash. 0:59:27.040 --> 0:59:28.720 That's before you would do I don't know what contract 0:59:28.800 --> 0:59:31.360 is shut out. I was helping with the records. We 0:59:31.440 --> 0:59:34.200 go get the records from the shoint. But in my mind, 0:59:34.240 --> 0:59:38.880 I'm like, oh, ship, you know. And I wasn't speaking 0:59:38.920 --> 0:59:41.280 annoy this much. But in my mind I'm like, oh, 0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:45.320 seeing them, what can I do to help? 0:59:45.480 --> 0:59:45.960 You know what I mean? 0:59:46.440 --> 0:59:49.360 But it was a total opposite, Like you know, I 0:59:49.520 --> 0:59:50.880 was feeling the square in the circle. 0:59:50.920 --> 0:59:55.080 You know, I'm a little bit but let me, do 0:59:55.160 --> 1:00:00.040 you think, like even from Queensbridgs, do you think you 1:00:00.160 --> 1:00:02.280 deserved more support when it came to your music career. 1:00:02.560 --> 1:00:03.720 Yes, you felt like that. 1:00:05.280 --> 1:00:07.840 Because guys is like your guys. What I'm saying is 1:00:08.360 --> 1:00:10.720 I was inspired by your guests right right right. So 1:00:10.880 --> 1:00:12.960 now people would say you never got nas on the record, 1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:16.760 I digg it, no, but okay, he sent me your record. 1:00:16.800 --> 1:00:17.320 I couldn't edit. 1:00:17.640 --> 1:00:25.720 Okay, another story I love. I didn't know that you 1:00:25.760 --> 1:00:26.400 couldn't use it. 1:00:26.960 --> 1:00:28.680 I used it. I needed I needed to. I needed 1:00:28.760 --> 1:00:31.160 to edit my my my artist verse. 1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:32.440 Oh okay, I couldn't it. 1:00:33.160 --> 1:00:34.560 Okay just recorded. 1:00:35.200 --> 1:00:37.640 You didn't have a mission, you just do artist on it, 1:00:37.720 --> 1:00:38.600 and I didn't. 1:00:38.960 --> 1:00:40.680 We tried, we made it work, but it was like, 1:00:40.800 --> 1:00:44.840 you know, I need the files, I need the stems. 1:00:47.920 --> 1:00:49.560 Then you didn't know it was I knew I needed 1:00:49.680 --> 1:00:49.920 at that. 1:00:49.960 --> 1:00:51.760 Time, but I didn't want to ask nows again because 1:00:51.760 --> 1:00:53.760 I'm like, this is if you give you this, take it, 1:00:54.040 --> 1:00:55.440 you know what I mean, Like this is enough from 1:00:55.440 --> 1:00:58.120 regard right, But yeah, I always wanted to wrap. I mean, 1:00:58.200 --> 1:00:59.520 if you think about it, like on the third. 1:00:59.440 --> 1:01:03.400 Floor, huh ering on three A well and you forty 1:01:03.480 --> 1:01:07.120 one oh wait that's tenth street, but twelve street forty one, 1:01:07.560 --> 1:01:11.320 sixteen okay, sixteen killer and have it the three ceeds 1:01:11.400 --> 1:01:13.440 my cousin who was also he right there. 1:01:13.560 --> 1:01:16.480 They also moving a lot right in the hood eight 1:01:16.560 --> 1:01:20.880 three A right. So so I'm like, I've seen the 1:01:20.920 --> 1:01:24.160 whole experience, you know, coming to so I'm like this 1:01:24.280 --> 1:01:25.720 is inspimental. People was like, you know, why are you 1:01:25.720 --> 1:01:27.479 wrapping now? In the hoods somebody like why are you rapping? 1:01:27.600 --> 1:01:29.200 Or my cousin the pole, why a you rapping? 1:01:30.080 --> 1:01:33.480 Rapping? I'm around you, guys, every day, right, you know 1:01:33.520 --> 1:01:35.760 what I mean? Now that you look back at it, 1:01:37.320 --> 1:01:39.520 do you think that was a mistake because then you 1:01:39.600 --> 1:01:41.960 get in trouble with Sacramento or who team was it. 1:01:42.040 --> 1:01:43.760 I never got in trouble, oh, because I think you 1:01:44.080 --> 1:01:45.000 wanted to go on tour. 1:01:45.440 --> 1:01:47.840 Well, what happened was so before the broad okay, my 1:01:47.960 --> 1:01:52.040 grandma passed away, and then I needed a break. 1:01:52.240 --> 1:01:54.160 Okay, so I was going to Miami. 1:01:54.240 --> 1:01:56.280 They let me go on the break. But when I 1:01:56.320 --> 1:01:59.320 went to Miami, the d T was U huh And 1:01:59.400 --> 1:01:59.960 I went on state. 1:02:00.840 --> 1:02:02.680 He was supposed to go. I should not have done nothing, 1:02:05.520 --> 1:02:05.840 but I was. 1:02:06.520 --> 1:02:07.640 He was supposed to be playing the game. 1:02:07.800 --> 1:02:09.880 Well, I was going on the break and am I 1:02:10.000 --> 1:02:11.560 just passed? So I said, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna 1:02:11.560 --> 1:02:13.280 take a break. I'm gonna go to Miami with my 1:02:13.320 --> 1:02:15.680 guys and we're gonna go to Miami. You go to 1:02:15.680 --> 1:02:18.600 the club break. That could be part of the break. 1:02:18.640 --> 1:02:19.960 It was, honestly, it was part of me break. 1:02:20.040 --> 1:02:22.440 Honestly part of the break because your grandma died. 1:02:22.520 --> 1:02:23.880 Yeah, the breakage to my grandma. 1:02:23.960 --> 1:02:27.520 So yeah, I wasn't. 1:02:27.680 --> 1:02:30.080 I wasn't. Honestly, my grandma passed I need to go 1:02:30.120 --> 1:02:33.760 away from basketball, right, So they looked at it like that, 1:02:33.880 --> 1:02:36.360 Like I was promoting the album the Break and then 1:02:36.400 --> 1:02:37.600 the crazy thing, and it was like it was like, 1:02:37.640 --> 1:02:39.920 you know those things, I just don't stop. So then 1:02:40.440 --> 1:02:43.080 so that happens, everything is cool. Could be playing well, right, right, 1:02:43.200 --> 1:02:45.280 So even Jermaine Knew was like, yeah, he's doing an album, 1:02:45.320 --> 1:02:50.640 but he's playing well. Nobody all happens. And I just 1:02:50.720 --> 1:02:51.440 signed the law. 1:02:51.920 --> 1:02:53.840 Right, just signed the law Lord. 1:02:55.880 --> 1:02:58.080 I just signed the law socause I love R and B. 1:02:58.120 --> 1:02:59.920 I love arm Be more than anything. So I want 1:02:59.960 --> 1:03:00.440 to come up. 1:03:00.600 --> 1:03:01.200 I wanted to start. 1:03:01.360 --> 1:03:03.560 Chinky was my first artist I wanted to sign, so 1:03:03.600 --> 1:03:04.320 I didn't want to sign. 1:03:04.320 --> 1:03:05.000 I want to do right. 1:03:05.000 --> 1:03:06.480 I want to do but Chinky, you know it's a 1:03:06.480 --> 1:03:09.520 long time ago, right, So so then I signed in 1:03:09.600 --> 1:03:12.400 law It bro happens. I remember nineteenth, A little albums dropped. 1:03:12.560 --> 1:03:14.360 You know we're gonna twenty third, A little album is 1:03:14.440 --> 1:03:17.400 dropping a womber twenty third. Broad happens in nineteenth. Check 1:03:17.440 --> 1:03:21.000 stops on the nineteenth. Imagine that and. 1:03:21.040 --> 1:03:23.000 Didn't what did you? Who did you drop a little with? 1:03:24.400 --> 1:03:27.760 It's just me, It was just you signed a little 1:03:28.160 --> 1:03:28.919 trying to get into music. 1:03:28.920 --> 1:03:29.960 But it was a distribution, wasn't it. 1:03:30.240 --> 1:03:32.840 We all, oh okay, yeah kay, yeah. 1:03:34.720 --> 1:03:39.440 Yeah, anybody like I want to be please give a law. 1:03:41.320 --> 1:03:42.200 Listening to Stay. 1:03:42.680 --> 1:03:44.600 Chapter three incredible album, man. 1:03:45.560 --> 1:03:48.040 My greatest work. Yeah, but it was like I was 1:03:48.080 --> 1:03:50.200 trying to get into it and then I feel like 1:03:50.320 --> 1:03:53.160 I wanted more support. But I felt like people looked 1:03:53.200 --> 1:03:56.920 at it like I don't know, like, like you know what. 1:03:57.040 --> 1:04:01.080 It is when a basketball player makes that album. I 1:04:01.160 --> 1:04:04.480 think most people don't take them serious. It's like and 1:04:04.560 --> 1:04:07.080 it's like it's like when master Ple, all do respect us, 1:04:07.120 --> 1:04:12.120 my man, when you're trying to serious, like and he 1:04:12.280 --> 1:04:12.840 was serious. 1:04:13.080 --> 1:04:14.560 Look at look at I'm. 1:04:14.440 --> 1:04:16.200 Gonna say nathty hustle, but it's not nifty hustle. 1:04:16.320 --> 1:04:17.680 The rest of the piece of thefty hustle. But what's 1:04:17.720 --> 1:04:18.240 my man named? 1:04:18.320 --> 1:04:21.200 J Cole? J Cole just went to out of the 1:04:21.320 --> 1:04:25.560 country where I think they bust his ass. He got 1:04:25.600 --> 1:04:30.400 like two points. But but but us, like this guy 1:04:30.520 --> 1:04:32.880 is working out every day, he's going to the we're 1:04:33.000 --> 1:04:35.160 taking them serious. But I think it's like bite first 1:04:35.200 --> 1:04:38.160 because I feel like rappers always wanted to be athletes 1:04:38.160 --> 1:04:40.560 and athletes always wanted to be a rappers. 1:04:40.680 --> 1:04:42.720 But this is different. Okay, this is waking up in 1:04:42.720 --> 1:04:46.000 the Queen's Bridge, all right, this look think about the stories. Yeah, 1:04:46.320 --> 1:04:49.960 w w E every every Thanksgiving, that nature house, That's 1:04:49.960 --> 1:04:51.440 where I'm at. Before I knew, I didn't even know 1:04:51.480 --> 1:04:55.000 the na rapper. Wow, I was chilling Brandon in Theron. Wow, 1:04:55.200 --> 1:04:59.720 I don't even know his mom had the cakes, the cakes. 1:05:00.040 --> 1:05:01.720 I spend on. 1:05:01.800 --> 1:05:05.560 I'm at with with twin, the twin annoying my mom. 1:05:05.680 --> 1:05:13.600 All best friends, right, so all hanging out every night. 1:05:13.760 --> 1:05:16.560 So he spending night of that day, right, So I'm 1:05:16.560 --> 1:05:18.080 growing up around it. And then you find out guys 1:05:18.160 --> 1:05:19.840 is rapping and you want to be like them, like 1:05:19.840 --> 1:05:21.040 you don't want you want to try to stay out 1:05:21.040 --> 1:05:22.800 of trouble. And then so what are you guys doing? 1:05:22.840 --> 1:05:24.840 You guys is rapping because you know, you guys want 1:05:24.880 --> 1:05:27.480 to break in trouble. You guys are not. So I'm like, oh, 1:05:27.720 --> 1:05:31.040 that's how that's my plan, b right, you know, is 1:05:31.120 --> 1:05:33.240 to tell a story. And so for me it's little. 1:05:33.240 --> 1:05:35.600 I think it's a little bit different than like baller, you. 1:05:35.640 --> 1:05:39.840 Know, right, you from from them, like it's crazy. I'm 1:05:39.880 --> 1:05:41.680 bouncing around a little bit. But it's crazy how like 1:05:42.560 --> 1:05:46.040 like people may consider Queen's Ridge poverty, but it's not, 1:05:46.360 --> 1:05:49.040 like I mean, like it's actually rich. And like I 1:05:49.120 --> 1:05:52.520 said it earlier, I looked at Paul, probably some of 1:05:52.600 --> 1:05:54.520 the best times I've ever had in my life is 1:05:54.600 --> 1:05:57.200 in Queens. I'm talking about when I was bro not 1:05:57.360 --> 1:05:59.920 even like not even like like that's one of the 1:06:00.000 --> 1:06:02.560 almost if you want to have fun, you're gonna find 1:06:02.640 --> 1:06:05.760 some fun out there. Yeah, And you know, you know 1:06:05.800 --> 1:06:08.560 what I love about that era. I always felt like 1:06:09.960 --> 1:06:12.720 people always protected you from from the street, like like 1:06:12.840 --> 1:06:15.640 you you a street but you like, like, I don't 1:06:15.640 --> 1:06:19.640 think I think everyone was really protected you because I'm 1:06:19.680 --> 1:06:22.120 sure you seeing the same way you see rappers. I'm 1:06:22.120 --> 1:06:23.920 sure like when you was younger, you've seen a lot 1:06:23.960 --> 1:06:26.480 of drug dealers because you have block. Is crazy and 1:06:27.200 --> 1:06:28.760 is that true? Like the streets always kind of like 1:06:28.800 --> 1:06:29.320 protected you. 1:06:29.560 --> 1:06:31.680 Yeah, definitely able to like you, you know, Trail from 1:06:31.680 --> 1:06:34.200 twelve Street here, you know, he'll give us a dollar. 1:06:36.920 --> 1:06:39.160 And I remember that, you know, to make sure you 1:06:39.200 --> 1:06:39.880 stay out the street. 1:06:40.400 --> 1:06:43.320 Yeah, like you see us hooping, you know, you guys 1:06:43.440 --> 1:06:45.480 was trying. Y'all didn't want us to be like you know, 1:06:45.680 --> 1:06:47.520 like y'all, oh you know what I mean. For the 1:06:47.560 --> 1:06:50.560 most part, you guys protected us. So guys, you know, 1:06:50.680 --> 1:06:53.240 so for me when I need it, I felt I'll 1:06:53.240 --> 1:06:55.320 be getting it like people don't. You might have beat 1:06:55.360 --> 1:06:57.960 with tramp, but I remember, gave me enough money to 1:06:58.040 --> 1:06:58.520 go buy. 1:07:01.280 --> 1:07:03.440 Some long get some longs. 1:07:04.760 --> 1:07:08.240 Yeah, I get some yo. I'm sorry over the place. 1:07:08.320 --> 1:07:11.120 Let me just tell you something. I thought Wongs had 1:07:11.200 --> 1:07:16.080 drugs in it. Yo. It's a Chinese restaurant in Queensbridge. 1:07:16.120 --> 1:07:19.920 I used to come from Left Brack for Wongs like 1:07:20.280 --> 1:07:22.960 I'm wanna, I'm I'm going through. This is twenty first Street, right, 1:07:23.560 --> 1:07:27.040 I'm going there getting Wongs. And I used to go 1:07:27.080 --> 1:07:28.200 to the park, but she goes from the pub. 1:07:28.240 --> 1:07:28.840 I used to like him. 1:07:28.880 --> 1:07:31.280 He was like the only other Spanish person. I used 1:07:31.280 --> 1:07:33.600 to always go there and mess with him. But Wongs, 1:07:33.760 --> 1:07:39.120 Wongs was so addicted. You remember Wongs. Yeah, yes, but 1:07:39.600 --> 1:07:43.160 that food was it? That food was like mister Chile. Yo. 1:07:43.320 --> 1:07:46.360 And I want to check the. 1:07:49.360 --> 1:07:52.280 Jo he walked around the. 1:07:52.480 --> 1:07:57.880 Fine so boom. We want to do quick time of Slim. 1:07:57.960 --> 1:07:59.480 But I get explain to. 1:08:00.160 --> 1:08:02.360 All right because last here we didn't play this game. 1:08:03.000 --> 1:08:05.080 This is our drinking game. We're gonna give you two choices. 1:08:05.760 --> 1:08:08.760 You pick one, we don't drink. But if you say 1:08:08.840 --> 1:08:11.520 you don't want to pick a choice for both, or 1:08:11.560 --> 1:08:14.439 you picked both, we drinking. Okay, all right, we really 1:08:14.480 --> 1:08:15.320 just want stories out. 1:08:15.320 --> 1:08:19.200 Okay, okay, but I got I'm picking one up to you. 1:08:19.840 --> 1:08:22.200 You want to pick either or. But sometimes people just 1:08:22.240 --> 1:08:24.200 want to be politically correct. They don't want to pay, and. 1:08:24.200 --> 1:08:25.880 That's when we drank. Okay, that's when we drank. 1:08:26.720 --> 1:08:34.320 All right, So Jordan or Kobe may get him his 1:08:34.400 --> 1:08:35.679 shots whatever he's drinking. 1:08:38.960 --> 1:08:39.760 Yeah, that's your shot. 1:08:39.920 --> 1:08:42.479 Okay shot. 1:08:44.840 --> 1:08:46.760 The thinking about it is dope. You have to think 1:08:46.760 --> 1:08:47.479 about those guys. 1:08:47.520 --> 1:08:49.280 And I don't want to say the one because Kobe 1:08:49.400 --> 1:08:54.240 not here. So I said, he said, I Enjoydan was better. 1:08:54.920 --> 1:08:58.000 Like Kobe called me, you know what I mean? He 1:08:58.200 --> 1:09:01.600 was like, yo, ma in't true. He told me this 1:09:01.680 --> 1:09:04.719 is why it ain't true. So I said the reasons 1:09:04.720 --> 1:09:06.920 why it wasn't Yeah, And I said, you're right, so 1:09:07.080 --> 1:09:07.920 I can't just. 1:09:08.040 --> 1:09:10.320 Talked for me to go back, and now let me 1:09:10.400 --> 1:09:11.559 tell you I'm joining. 1:09:11.760 --> 1:09:12.400 Was that dude? 1:09:14.479 --> 1:09:23.320 We take yeah? Yeah, we take one night. Okay, let 1:09:23.400 --> 1:09:26.000 me tell you Kobe Bryant's story real quick before you 1:09:26.080 --> 1:09:26.320 move on. 1:09:29.960 --> 1:09:30.840 We have mister Childs. 1:09:30.920 --> 1:09:34.519 One night, I just did a record with Kobe. Remember 1:09:34.520 --> 1:09:36.040 he was on Track Masters with Steve Stout. 1:09:36.400 --> 1:09:40.599 I got I got you, Oh he was I didn't 1:09:40.640 --> 1:09:41.400 realize that was Stell. 1:09:41.560 --> 1:09:43.960 Yeah. So when I got on the record, I wrote 1:09:44.000 --> 1:09:49.600 his rhyme. He came to the studio like furious. He 1:09:49.800 --> 1:09:50.960 was like, what is that. No. 1:09:51.280 --> 1:09:53.160 I was like, oh, that's for you, Like I got you. 1:09:54.120 --> 1:09:57.120 He was furious. He was like he's like no, no, no, no, 1:09:57.320 --> 1:09:59.200 I write my own rocks. And I was like, okay, 1:09:59.680 --> 1:10:00.880 you know, I was cool. I was like, you know, 1:10:01.200 --> 1:10:04.439 he's competitive, Like even in a field where he's not 1:10:04.920 --> 1:10:06.760 a professional's competitive. 1:10:07.120 --> 1:10:11.200 So we went I definitely raised the verse. 1:10:11.280 --> 1:10:11.719 I definitely. 1:10:12.040 --> 1:10:13.240 I definitely raised the verse. 1:10:13.280 --> 1:10:16.360 And then, uh, I don't know if we went out 1:10:16.400 --> 1:10:18.599 to the dinner together or we bumped each other again 1:10:18.720 --> 1:10:21.720 at dinner. So we're in mir Chiles. You know. You know, 1:10:21.880 --> 1:10:24.040 mister Childs is minty seventh Street. You know what the 1:10:24.080 --> 1:10:25.200 closest hood to that is. 1:10:27.240 --> 1:10:27.800 Seezberg. 1:10:27.920 --> 1:10:30.840 So me like the idiot I am. I look at 1:10:30.920 --> 1:10:33.400 Kobe in his face and I'm like I could take 1:10:33.439 --> 1:10:37.120 you one on one right now. I'm I'm drunk out 1:10:37.120 --> 1:10:41.160 of my mind, but in my mind, I think I 1:10:41.240 --> 1:10:44.680 could take Kobe right now. So Kobe, there's not much 1:10:44.720 --> 1:10:49.120 of a competitive dude. He is, bro, He's I'm thinking. 1:10:50.120 --> 1:10:55.120 He looked at me like, where's the nearest court, like 1:10:55.240 --> 1:10:58.360 the fact that he even thought about it. So I 1:10:58.520 --> 1:11:00.760 was like, yo, queensbridges right down block, Like we could 1:11:00.840 --> 1:11:03.360 literally like this, this this is the bridge right here, 1:11:03.680 --> 1:11:04.840 we just go across the street. 1:11:05.520 --> 1:11:10.280 And the man thought about it, he thought about it. 1:11:10.840 --> 1:11:12.559 I really was wanting to be like, hell no, Kobe, 1:11:12.600 --> 1:11:15.559 I'm playing around like but I sat there. That's how 1:11:15.640 --> 1:11:19.080 much of a dog he was in real life. He 1:11:19.200 --> 1:11:19.800 didn't want me. 1:11:19.880 --> 1:11:22.639 To have that on him, to say, Yo, I challenge 1:11:22.680 --> 1:11:22.880 you for. 1:11:25.120 --> 1:11:27.680 To play ball and Queens right down the block like 1:11:27.800 --> 1:11:30.880 it literally is like four or five minutes away, And 1:11:31.000 --> 1:11:35.800 he thought about it, like this is how much that 1:11:35.960 --> 1:11:38.040 she would have abably been crazy. I was so glad 1:11:38.080 --> 1:11:40.439 he was like at the very last and he was 1:11:40.439 --> 1:11:45.920 like no, no, no, no, like or stop someone someone 1:11:46.000 --> 1:11:47.639 stopped there, and I was just like, but we were 1:11:47.760 --> 1:11:48.600 we were respectful. 1:11:48.640 --> 1:11:50.760 But I'm like, there's no way I could beat Kobe. 1:11:50.960 --> 1:11:54.759 I got like, but that's how that's how crazy is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:11:57.120 --> 1:12:03.200 Yeah Lebron or k d mm okay Lebron, but not 1:12:03.479 --> 1:12:07.040 that not so fast, okay, right because the k these 1:12:07.080 --> 1:12:11.720 got dude, I think, I mean because Lebron because of 1:12:11.800 --> 1:12:14.439 what you see. If you're going, you know Lebron, Now 1:12:14.479 --> 1:12:17.639 you say Lebron, Jordan, we gotta talk about it because 1:12:18.000 --> 1:12:20.280 Lebron got some stuff. But then I can go to 1:12:20.800 --> 1:12:23.960 non scoring titles and eight and ten times playing eighty two. 1:12:23.880 --> 1:12:25.240 Games, right right? 1:12:25.360 --> 1:12:25.760 You know what I mean? 1:12:25.800 --> 1:12:27.439 So you can go eighty games ten times. 1:12:30.160 --> 1:12:33.280 I could played eighty two games ten times when we 1:12:33.400 --> 1:12:35.160 was in the liquors gods, just like, yeah, I'm playing 1:12:35.200 --> 1:12:36.000 eighty two this year. 1:12:36.439 --> 1:12:38.760 That's like a goal to get up to eighty. 1:12:39.080 --> 1:12:39.240 Yeah. 1:12:39.560 --> 1:12:42.120 People taking no breakage, most people get hurt. 1:12:42.280 --> 1:12:44.479 And Korebe played eighty two that year. I play eighty two. 1:12:44.600 --> 1:12:47.080 But I think the starting five maybe not maybe maybe 1:12:47.120 --> 1:12:48.360 buying them didn't play eighty two. 1:12:48.640 --> 1:12:50.639 Wow, they just said that about Anthony Davis. 1:12:50.800 --> 1:12:52.920 He said that I saw it. I just saw it 1:12:53.560 --> 1:12:54.320 for eighty two games. 1:12:54.360 --> 1:12:55.920 That's what he said. Wait wait, wait, who was said 1:12:55.960 --> 1:12:58.720 that Anthony Davis. Yeah, he's he's in Dallas now. I 1:12:58.840 --> 1:13:00.439 don't know how the championship Laco in the. 1:13:00.439 --> 1:13:03.519 Labron, he's like available for eighty two. 1:13:03.760 --> 1:13:05.599 Sometimes you're gonna be limping, so you gotta be smart, 1:13:05.680 --> 1:13:09.080 like if you got a cash strain, you can't do 1:13:09.160 --> 1:13:11.000 too much. You gotta relax like you could get you 1:13:11.760 --> 1:13:14.799 want to play like you heard somewhere. Like for example, 1:13:14.840 --> 1:13:17.160 when I when I have my surgery here and this finger, Wow, 1:13:17.360 --> 1:13:19.760 damn me. So I have three surgeries on this finger. 1:13:20.080 --> 1:13:22.040 So I got surgery and they said you're gonna be 1:13:22.080 --> 1:13:24.760 out eight weeks. So I'm mean I'm in the pacer. 1:13:24.840 --> 1:13:26.880 I said, no, I'm not. I said, once I get 1:13:26.920 --> 1:13:29.400 the cast, I'm playing right, And he was like, no, 1:13:29.479 --> 1:13:31.960 you're not. I said, watch me what I said, Vince 1:13:32.040 --> 1:13:34.160 is playing. I'm playing against Vincent a week. I am 1:13:34.200 --> 1:13:37.120 miss Vince Cunner. And you're going YouTube, You're going Google. 1:13:37.120 --> 1:13:39.000 I mean you'll see my fucking hand rapped. 1:13:39.160 --> 1:13:40.120 Yeah like this much? 1:13:40.920 --> 1:13:41.599 Yeah, big rat. 1:13:42.240 --> 1:13:43.599 And that's the crazy. That's the difference. 1:13:43.720 --> 1:13:46.240 Who protects you at that moment? Well in your circling, 1:13:46.880 --> 1:13:47.360 don't look like. 1:13:47.760 --> 1:13:52.120 I'm playing the game now from a contract perspective. So 1:13:52.240 --> 1:13:54.120 now I'm playing where I had ten surgeries on my hand, 1:13:54.640 --> 1:13:57.479 right that one three surgeries and then I got three. 1:13:57.479 --> 1:13:57.960 I didn't get. 1:13:57.960 --> 1:14:03.080 I just in funny, right, But Fat Joe got a story. 1:14:03.120 --> 1:14:06.639 I'll did just split right here. Fat Joe got a story. 1:14:06.640 --> 1:14:08.000 I'll do from the record. 1:14:08.040 --> 1:14:09.599 I think in the championship is split all the way 1:14:09.640 --> 1:14:09.960 down there. 1:14:10.479 --> 1:14:12.960 It was wide open, you know what I mean. I 1:14:13.040 --> 1:14:15.479 wrapped the shit with Tish fell tape. But were playing 1:14:15.720 --> 1:14:18.600 in those areas like the Knicks said play right, So 1:14:18.720 --> 1:14:20.320 that's how I come from the Nick. I were like, Okay, 1:14:20.600 --> 1:14:23.080 we're not We're not sitting out the game. My last 1:14:23.320 --> 1:14:25.519 injury had a miniscus tear. They said, you're gonna be 1:14:25.560 --> 1:14:28.439 out six weeks on the Lakers. I said, no, I'm not. 1:14:29.560 --> 1:14:32.800 I said, the playoffs is next week with the Lakers 1:14:32.840 --> 1:14:35.360 were Spurs. It was the only time to Nash Howard, 1:14:36.240 --> 1:14:37.920 I don't know when next time I'm playing with these guys. 1:14:38.439 --> 1:14:40.880 I ain't missing that right. So I got a picture 1:14:40.920 --> 1:14:43.920 with these guys playing just got swept right, and also 1:14:43.920 --> 1:14:45.880 didn't want to miss playing against Kawhi Leonner. I'm the 1:14:45.960 --> 1:14:48.439 Kawhi Leonard. Ain't Tim duncan I ain't missing that right, 1:14:48.560 --> 1:14:51.559 and but that ended my career like that. So now 1:14:51.720 --> 1:14:54.280 on the other side, when God is sitting out, I 1:14:54.320 --> 1:14:57.439 would say sit out because now you go back for 1:14:57.600 --> 1:14:59.600 negotiations and they say you only average fifteen, I. 1:14:59.560 --> 1:15:01.320 Say, come on, or you're injury prone. 1:15:01.360 --> 1:15:03.599 You know I can't do certain things? Did I can't? 1:15:03.640 --> 1:15:05.439 I can't go for some rebounds, So now box and 1:15:05.520 --> 1:15:07.559 I was saying, Okay, I know I can get him 1:15:07.600 --> 1:15:09.760 that rebound. You know, I don't even want go brea. 1:15:09.880 --> 1:15:11.639 Keep my heads, you know what I mean? 1:15:11.760 --> 1:15:14.960 So how about that that famous Mark Jackson statement coach 1:15:15.640 --> 1:15:17.920 Mark Jackson when he was like, you got to tell 1:15:17.960 --> 1:15:19.000 your body not today. 1:15:19.520 --> 1:15:22.000 I'm not I'm not hurt today. Is that something that 1:15:22.640 --> 1:15:23.160 you ever heard of? 1:15:23.160 --> 1:15:23.840 It you ever heard of that? No? 1:15:23.920 --> 1:15:25.720 I didn't hear that saying that was. 1:15:25.760 --> 1:15:28.400 With a d or or somebody that got hurt. And 1:15:28.520 --> 1:15:30.080 he was like, no, you got to tell your body not. 1:15:30.240 --> 1:15:33.680 Now you got to be smart too. But there's a 1:15:33.720 --> 1:15:37.000 lot of money at risk. But so you your stats 1:15:37.120 --> 1:15:39.800 right now, that's what they're saying. So your status is 1:15:40.080 --> 1:15:44.560 the difference between a hundred million and you know, so 1:15:44.680 --> 1:15:46.599 you know, so what you're gonna do no, of course, 1:15:46.880 --> 1:15:49.000 that's business. It's from my perspective, was different because I 1:15:49.000 --> 1:15:51.120 can win without scoring, and I can win without rebounding. 1:15:51.439 --> 1:15:52.640 So what I'm telling them is and I did it, 1:15:52.720 --> 1:15:54.040 and I still did it, But I never got like 1:15:54.120 --> 1:15:55.840 a twelve. You never seen people think I got a 1:15:55.880 --> 1:16:00.160 maxed Ol. I ain't never seen him that contract, not 1:16:00.240 --> 1:16:02.600 with Houston. No, that's not six MILLI six miles. And 1:16:02.640 --> 1:16:06.200 most have a son because of trouble, you know what 1:16:06.240 --> 1:16:08.360 I mean, because that's what you know what I mean 1:16:08.479 --> 1:16:10.360 it was. It was a lot of that, but also 1:16:11.120 --> 1:16:18.160 like the performance, so you know, but yeah, I was saying, yeah, let's. 1:16:18.000 --> 1:16:19.840 Get back to God, don't play. You got this? 1:16:20.320 --> 1:16:25.240 Okay, the next one, Kyrie or a I. That's an 1:16:25.280 --> 1:16:29.880 interesting one. Kyrie or a I has a Kyrie has 1:16:29.920 --> 1:16:33.880 the title. I feel like a I honestly because certain people, 1:16:33.880 --> 1:16:37.080 I'm gonna go a I. I ain't saying Kyrie are nice, nice, 1:16:37.280 --> 1:16:42.880 A good choice. Yeah, LL I'm gonna go with NAS. 1:16:43.720 --> 1:16:54.880 Just have a shout. Also, okay, shots are here, but 1:16:54.960 --> 1:16:56.840 I think L has a great body at work. LL 1:16:57.760 --> 1:17:01.160 did to a different audience. Yeah, but it's okay, you know, 1:17:01.520 --> 1:17:05.360 I think nas is like just two legendary people. You 1:17:05.400 --> 1:17:06.639 gotta listen to the rap he could rap. 1:17:07.560 --> 1:17:10.880 They have more beef than it in terms of beef. 1:17:11.520 --> 1:17:13.280 Well, and now it's got great music. I think that 1:17:13.360 --> 1:17:17.320 is the greatest rapper honestly. Honestly, Yeah, me too. Yeah, man, 1:17:17.360 --> 1:17:19.880 I think that it's the greatest rapper era because but 1:17:19.960 --> 1:17:21.960 I think in terms of more beef, I think l 1:17:22.120 --> 1:17:23.120 had a sizeable amount. 1:17:23.520 --> 1:17:25.080 Yeah, I think sizeable. 1:17:25.439 --> 1:17:27.400 It's one of the first artists I think had the 1:17:27.520 --> 1:17:30.720 first beef for real, Like he's doing R and B, 1:17:30.840 --> 1:17:32.240 so he gotta be like, I ain't no sucker. 1:17:33.120 --> 1:17:39.439 He was. He was starting. He was starting instigated because 1:17:39.479 --> 1:17:42.840 if you go way back to kum D. Yeah, I 1:17:42.880 --> 1:17:45.680 can't go that far. I can't know what I can't say. 1:17:45.720 --> 1:17:49.880 I can't say if he started that. But the Cannabis thing, 1:17:49.960 --> 1:17:52.479 I really do think he started. I really do. And 1:17:52.760 --> 1:17:55.639 at the time, like Cannabis was one of the most 1:17:55.720 --> 1:17:56.679 vicious people. 1:17:56.560 --> 1:17:57.080 On the mic. 1:17:57.560 --> 1:18:01.200 In fact, remember Cannabis, he felt Cannabis went at him 1:18:01.240 --> 1:18:05.680 on the Yeah, he didn't start it necessarily, No, he. 1:18:05.680 --> 1:18:06.320 Didn't mean that. 1:18:09.120 --> 1:18:13.080 Come on, I mean, it wasn't. 1:18:13.240 --> 1:18:14.400 Cannabis was going there. 1:18:14.479 --> 1:18:15.240 He was going. 1:18:16.080 --> 1:18:18.000 Canabis went there. He went there. 1:18:18.120 --> 1:18:20.559 Keep in mind, I like, I love cannabis more than 1:18:20.560 --> 1:18:22.240 a lot of people. Now, cannabis is done. Man. 1:18:22.720 --> 1:18:26.519 He was a cannabis was He was a lyric on 1:18:26.600 --> 1:18:27.840 top of the lyrical food chain. 1:18:27.960 --> 1:18:30.360 What I'm saying, I like cannabis lyrics. You know, I 1:18:30.760 --> 1:18:34.280 love cannabis honestly, man. And that was tough. 1:18:34.320 --> 1:18:36.519 But I think he just started and they all did 1:18:36.560 --> 1:18:38.439 what he had to do, and it was a classic record. 1:18:38.880 --> 1:18:41.720 They both It was on the same ricord class that 1:18:41.880 --> 1:18:47.160 was cannabis at the time. 1:18:47.160 --> 1:18:48.680 As a kid, I was on canabis side because I'm 1:18:48.680 --> 1:18:50.920 a kid, right, so you know I'm a cannabis fan. 1:18:52.200 --> 1:18:54.760 What he said, trained to run a hundred miles, I'm 1:18:54.800 --> 1:18:55.599 soft saying. 1:18:55.920 --> 1:19:00.760 Nah said female rappers too. I don't give a boy 1:19:00.840 --> 1:19:05.240 you realize Foxy just went She literally just just around then, 1:19:05.360 --> 1:19:09.000 like he said that we should play cannabis and coke 1:19:09.560 --> 1:19:13.320 and get to get in them. Okay, yes, but hold on, 1:19:13.439 --> 1:19:15.040 let let me have a little little twist to it. 1:19:15.960 --> 1:19:20.280 Nas or jay Z Man, that's not a little twist. 1:19:23.600 --> 1:19:25.880 I didn't know. I'm say Nas the greatest, but let 1:19:25.920 --> 1:19:28.840 me let me not start there. Okay, let me start there, 1:19:28.880 --> 1:19:32.200 because that's like being biased and all that stuff. I 1:19:32.360 --> 1:19:34.360 love Volume one. I was one of those guys when 1:19:34.439 --> 1:19:36.639 Jay said, I'm my whole album. 1:19:36.840 --> 1:19:37.120 I'm like. 1:19:38.760 --> 1:19:42.600 You with my old ship, my ship, you know what 1:19:42.640 --> 1:19:42.880 I mean. 1:19:42.960 --> 1:19:45.840 So Volume one was that thing. Volume two was good too. 1:19:46.400 --> 1:19:49.040 I didn't get into jay Z until Cedric Williams from 1:19:49.080 --> 1:19:54.360 Tell Street. All your friends know, Okay, I ain't getting 1:19:54.360 --> 1:19:56.519 to you. Got listening to jay Z. Got listened to 1:19:56.600 --> 1:19:58.600 jay Z. But I'm listening to them all deep. I 1:19:58.640 --> 1:20:01.240 love long Deep guy, I love Veterans Memorial. 1:20:02.000 --> 1:20:05.439 So we're going as I'm going as. Okay, hey you 1:20:05.479 --> 1:20:08.200 could you could get the next one? Jayleen Brunston or 1:20:08.200 --> 1:20:09.080 Steph Curry. 1:20:09.360 --> 1:20:12.599 Yeah, seven thirty seventh Curry right now? 1:20:12.920 --> 1:20:18.800 Okay, twenty ten okay, but ahead. 1:20:19.040 --> 1:20:21.360 Finished seventh Curry right now. Jeleen Bronston is dope. 1:20:21.479 --> 1:20:26.920 Okay, okay, twenty ten Lakers or twenty twenty six Knicks. 1:20:28.320 --> 1:20:30.200 Oh shit, I'll about take a shot because I didn't 1:20:30.360 --> 1:20:32.720 take that quick, you know what I mean. 1:20:34.680 --> 1:20:39.639 He's on go time with you cool? So oh yeah, sorry, 1:20:39.960 --> 1:20:40.360 we took it. 1:20:42.400 --> 1:20:46.080 Come on, let's do it, Let's do it. I'm more 1:20:46.160 --> 1:20:48.800 noise show. So you know what I mean, let's do 1:20:48.880 --> 1:20:49.599 it all right? Cool? 1:20:49.680 --> 1:20:54.160 So two thousand ten Lakers versus. 1:20:54.000 --> 1:20:58.240 Who twenty twenty six Knicks. All right, I'm gonna go 1:20:58.280 --> 1:21:01.559 with us one hundred, Yeah, say with us. 1:21:02.760 --> 1:21:05.160 I love them, guys. I gotta got my whole jerseys. 1:21:05.200 --> 1:21:07.639 Game four, I got the best thing signed by the way, 1:21:08.280 --> 1:21:09.000 Game four I want. 1:21:09.040 --> 1:21:09.920 I'm on the floor. 1:21:10.040 --> 1:21:11.800 They say world peace. We need world peace right now, right, 1:21:11.880 --> 1:21:14.400 so I say world peace, and Jael and Brunson signing 1:21:16.120 --> 1:21:18.120 and the whole Nick team signed it. I'm a Knicks fan. 1:21:18.160 --> 1:21:20.200 I'm not gonna go there right now, but I'm a 1:21:20.280 --> 1:21:22.080 huge Knick fan. But all right, I'm. 1:21:24.240 --> 1:21:29.560 Your three favorite team teams is Knicks, Bulls, and it 1:21:29.640 --> 1:21:30.639 switches your third one. 1:21:30.720 --> 1:21:33.040 I love the Knicks, but my favorite team is the Bulls. 1:21:32.880 --> 1:21:37.800 The Bulls and and Jordan Bulls. Jordan Bulls, okay because of. 1:21:37.800 --> 1:21:39.920 Them, and then the Nick but I never wanted to 1:21:39.920 --> 1:21:41.400 see them beat the Knicks. So the Knicks was the 1:21:41.560 --> 1:21:44.200 beat the Bulls ass in the championship. I'm I'm very happy, 1:21:44.439 --> 1:21:44.720 you know what. 1:21:45.120 --> 1:21:49.000 You know what's crazy about being the Knicks fan and 1:21:49.320 --> 1:21:51.320 I'm me being a Knicks fan, and I think I'm 1:21:51.320 --> 1:21:54.680 two years older than you, right, But and did you 1:21:54.720 --> 1:21:55.800 play with Reggie Miller? 1:21:56.160 --> 1:21:56.960 I played with Reggie. 1:21:57.000 --> 1:21:57.160 Yeah. 1:21:57.320 --> 1:21:59.840 Reggie used to kill us every year, like you can't 1:22:00.080 --> 1:22:02.760 every Yeah, listen, I took it so worse to the 1:22:02.840 --> 1:22:05.200 one time I went to All Star Weekend when I 1:22:05.280 --> 1:22:08.400 became Norri this is afterwards, and Reggie Miller walked into 1:22:08.520 --> 1:22:10.160 the room, I walked out. I didn't want to say 1:22:10.160 --> 1:22:11.760 add to him because of how he used to kill 1:22:11.800 --> 1:22:14.040 the Knicks. But then later on I got to forgive 1:22:14.120 --> 1:22:15.439 him because you on the team. 1:22:17.760 --> 1:22:20.639 Crazy for I got to forgive him like that that year, 1:22:20.760 --> 1:22:23.240 like he was the o G at that time too. 1:22:23.280 --> 1:22:24.200 It was like that was just that. 1:22:24.320 --> 1:22:25.280 Wasn't that his last year? 1:22:25.800 --> 1:22:25.840 No? 1:22:26.439 --> 1:22:26.639 Last? 1:22:26.840 --> 1:22:27.680 Yeah? Was it? 1:22:28.640 --> 1:22:28.840 Yeah? 1:22:28.960 --> 1:22:31.600 I played Reggie before his last year, and then I 1:22:31.680 --> 1:22:35.160 was suspended his last year. Okay, yeah, I'm the reason 1:22:35.200 --> 1:22:36.960 he don't got a championship and he got one. In 1:22:37.040 --> 1:22:38.759 my heart yeah. 1:22:40.280 --> 1:22:43.759 Yeah, you say what you think that the reason he championship? 1:22:43.800 --> 1:22:45.600 Yeah? Definitely because I was suspended. 1:22:47.800 --> 1:22:50.760 But he used to But back then he used to 1:22:50.760 --> 1:22:53.040 whip the Knicks ass and that didn't wasn't. 1:22:52.840 --> 1:22:55.360 That always was also Ja's best. I was second best. 1:22:55.479 --> 1:22:59.160 Okay, wow, okay, yeah, all right, yeah. 1:22:59.080 --> 1:23:03.160 Man, So but your question, oh sorry not to say 1:23:03.160 --> 1:23:06.000 on the paces. So why the pacers? Guy? So last year, 1:23:06.000 --> 1:23:07.840 the next players the Pacers. I'm room for the next 1:23:08.320 --> 1:23:10.959 I'm room for the Pacers, and I make it clear because. 1:23:10.760 --> 1:23:15.360 One they want in the stands for me, I'm sorry. 1:23:15.640 --> 1:23:15.840 Yeah. 1:23:16.320 --> 1:23:19.800 And then also Sean Green nots Blocked drafted to the 1:23:19.880 --> 1:23:22.040 paces Flemming my block. 1:23:22.120 --> 1:23:27.120 Yeah yeah, yeah, he was the pace. Yes, you know 1:23:27.160 --> 1:23:27.479 what I mean. 1:23:27.680 --> 1:23:31.320 And then me Don Block had a traffic the Pacers, 1:23:31.360 --> 1:23:33.280 and I played for the Pacers. So the Pacers is 1:23:33.280 --> 1:23:36.719 always for many reasons they won. I would say Nicks 1:23:37.320 --> 1:23:39.960 in the Lakers, the Lakers, the Knicks and the Lakers. 1:23:39.760 --> 1:23:39.960 Is like. 1:23:42.840 --> 1:23:46.559 For me, yeah, yeah, yeah, you could do the next 1:23:46.760 --> 1:23:47.439 cone or nature. 1:23:48.000 --> 1:23:48.719 That's crazy. 1:23:50.920 --> 1:23:52.280 Take your old. 1:23:54.160 --> 1:23:54.400 Anwer. 1:23:54.720 --> 1:23:56.919 Yeah, I'm gonna answer. You're gonna answer. 1:23:58.360 --> 1:23:59.759 You honestly. 1:24:00.200 --> 1:24:02.240 I see why we don't have to get you much 1:24:02.240 --> 1:24:06.280 deeper terms. We're supposed to go on vacation together, that's right, 1:24:06.479 --> 1:24:06.840 we didn't. 1:24:06.920 --> 1:24:10.519 Yeah, yeah, that's funny. Funny. I said, I wouldn't tell 1:24:10.560 --> 1:24:14.759 the story, but you gotta explaining the nature. It's funny, 1:24:14.840 --> 1:24:18.680 Like I read this house. This beautiful house. Did you 1:24:18.760 --> 1:24:21.280 read the great Yeah? And beautiful? And then it's a 1:24:21.320 --> 1:24:23.599 beautiful house next to us. And I'm hearing his voice 1:24:23.640 --> 1:24:25.559 and I'm sure he's hear my voice. Be right next 1:24:25.600 --> 1:24:27.599 door to each other. Leave no way, he leaves over, 1:24:27.840 --> 1:24:32.200 Like why smoke? 1:24:33.840 --> 1:24:45.320 I see this, dude, I see this, and I can't. 1:24:45.160 --> 1:24:46.720 Hearing your voice. That's why I was like, I know 1:24:46.880 --> 1:24:47.680 that voice. 1:24:47.439 --> 1:24:50.600 Like ahead, you see He's like, you know, yeah, you 1:24:50.720 --> 1:24:51.960 know right? 1:24:52.040 --> 1:24:55.519 Dare you smoking? We actually came over the smoked yeah, 1:24:56.479 --> 1:25:00.920 ma wait. 1:25:01.400 --> 1:25:06.040 I'm like that was crazy. 1:25:06.680 --> 1:25:08.240 I remember that was one of the first times I 1:25:08.360 --> 1:25:11.120 heard you say a venture capitalists. 1:25:11.160 --> 1:25:13.280 I said, he was with your vin capitalists home boys, 1:25:13.479 --> 1:25:15.719 and I was with my partners a lot of stuff. 1:25:15.760 --> 1:25:17.599 I was like, damn, what the is the pal capitalists. 1:25:17.640 --> 1:25:18.719 I didn't know what you were talking. 1:25:18.960 --> 1:25:20.719 I didn't want to say. 1:25:22.760 --> 1:25:26.439 Yeah, he said. 1:25:26.479 --> 1:25:28.880 I was like, I was gonna get some different type 1:25:28.880 --> 1:25:29.200 of money. 1:25:29.760 --> 1:25:31.599 You're in the media business, and I was hitting my media, 1:25:31.680 --> 1:25:32.400 my media partner. 1:25:32.520 --> 1:25:34.000 Yeah, that's right, that's right right there. 1:25:34.479 --> 1:25:34.880 That's fine. 1:25:34.960 --> 1:25:36.760 Also like and I was like, yo, I said, this 1:25:36.880 --> 1:25:40.240 is the guy. I said, no, you don't understand. Put 1:25:40.280 --> 1:25:44.600 down the blood in order to help your You know 1:25:44.640 --> 1:25:45.599 what I mean? That was dope. 1:25:46.160 --> 1:25:49.880 Okay, but you if you want to ask the componer, nature, 1:25:49.920 --> 1:25:50.240 you are. 1:25:50.840 --> 1:25:53.560 Yeah, he said, both thought help because I'm I'm in 1:25:53.680 --> 1:25:56.479 there and now cover cover is great. 1:25:56.520 --> 1:26:00.280 I love he said both. He said, both said I'm 1:26:00.280 --> 1:26:01.120 gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. 1:26:01.760 --> 1:26:04.040 Yeah, so sorry, yes, and you're in the Russian I 1:26:04.080 --> 1:26:04.280 get you. 1:26:04.520 --> 1:26:05.479 No, I don't know. 1:26:05.600 --> 1:26:06.600 There you go, all right, So. 1:26:08.800 --> 1:26:10.439 You don't speak no, no, don't win in no Russian. 1:26:11.080 --> 1:26:13.160 Yeah, Nature wrote your first while. 1:26:13.280 --> 1:26:17.240 Nature Nature wrote my first round six six two forty 1:26:17.400 --> 1:26:20.960 new shure these new agents, What can you do for me? Niggas? 1:26:21.040 --> 1:26:23.160 Try to warn me about the pressure of prose and 1:26:23.240 --> 1:26:25.840 what it takes to be a star? Mad Questions of Rose, 1:26:26.080 --> 1:26:28.519 Question number one, why did I leave school? If you 1:26:28.600 --> 1:26:32.280 ask me, it was my best move? Sixteenth pick never 1:26:32.360 --> 1:26:33.960 seen ship. In fact, the only niggas I knew was 1:26:34.000 --> 1:26:37.679 my queen's click, try and fly and get your wings clipped. 1:26:38.280 --> 1:26:39.160 The nature man. 1:26:43.439 --> 1:26:43.839 Understand. 1:26:45.080 --> 1:26:47.439 Honestly, I would just do a verse and leave. 1:26:47.560 --> 1:26:51.000 I was busy. I got almost three hundred songs. I 1:26:51.120 --> 1:26:52.560 just do it first, leaving people and I throw it 1:26:52.560 --> 1:26:54.160 out there. I don't care. I throw it out. 1:26:55.080 --> 1:26:57.200 I'll be like gues you should trasy. I ain't even recorded, 1:26:57.240 --> 1:27:00.760 I got whatever, But but I would go to Nature. 1:27:01.200 --> 1:27:04.439 Right now, I'm gonna go a Capone. Got better body 1:27:04.439 --> 1:27:07.439 of work. Nature had a chance. We all know that 1:27:08.160 --> 1:27:11.800 Nature had a chance. But Capole have a way better 1:27:11.840 --> 1:27:15.040 body of work. They both lyricists. But you're probably gonna 1:27:15.040 --> 1:27:17.679 give us a capone because he's still putting that work. 1:27:18.120 --> 1:27:20.320 But the Nature, we we gotta admit Nature had the times. 1:27:20.680 --> 1:27:25.760 Mann that Nature time was serious. You got one night 1:27:26.120 --> 1:27:26.479 one time. 1:27:26.560 --> 1:27:27.240 He was the hottest. 1:27:27.320 --> 1:27:30.280 He was the hottest in Queens for sure, probably New 1:27:30.400 --> 1:27:32.280 York Man for sure, probably New York. 1:27:32.360 --> 1:27:34.800 So I took so one sing I say about Nature 1:27:34.880 --> 1:27:36.640 is like he's creative. I was talking. I speak to 1:27:36.720 --> 1:27:39.760 Nature all the time right sometimes and I think, like, 1:27:40.280 --> 1:27:42.960 like what you're doing? This inspired me? Man, I said, 1:27:43.000 --> 1:27:45.320 this is great. Y'all understand if you asked me in 1:27:45.360 --> 1:27:50.439 two thousand and two, you gonna do the podcast and 1:27:50.520 --> 1:27:53.240 talking and interviewing people. Know, no, no, no, he's not 1:27:53.400 --> 1:27:58.439 doing man, trust me with guy like Nature is like guys, 1:27:58.520 --> 1:28:02.120 it's tapping up into your other your other thing. 1:28:02.680 --> 1:28:04.320 Okay, this is this is I think it's gonna be 1:28:04.360 --> 1:28:07.720 easy for you Mob deep or mop. 1:28:08.160 --> 1:28:09.280 Alright, I'm gonna deep. 1:28:10.360 --> 1:28:12.120 But I definitely. 1:28:13.880 --> 1:28:16.760 I never met them deep anway, cause I always say 1:28:16.920 --> 1:28:19.599 I love the Mob. It's crazy that I can make 1:28:19.640 --> 1:28:22.439 an argument that I'm from a neighborhood with the best artist. 1:28:23.360 --> 1:28:26.360 That's enough, Like yeah, I can get a chance to say, yeah, 1:28:26.360 --> 1:28:28.920 I'm nah, you have the best artist, by the way, 1:28:29.280 --> 1:28:32.519 and and yeah, there's arguments to be made. Everybody feel 1:28:32.560 --> 1:28:35.439 like that the Mob. You know, Veterans Memorial is my 1:28:35.520 --> 1:28:38.240 best song from the mall, that's my best song. I 1:28:38.360 --> 1:28:40.680 tell alchemists I'm the alchemist is the only number I 1:28:40.720 --> 1:28:43.280 know about heart and my grandma number. But I can 1:28:43.280 --> 1:28:46.200 tell your alchemist's number one call them right now. Every 1:28:46.240 --> 1:28:47.800 time I see algemist, I tell on the phone number. 1:28:49.000 --> 1:28:51.280 But yeah, I will just go with the Mob. And 1:28:51.400 --> 1:28:53.000 for many reasons, and I also get I got to 1:28:53.040 --> 1:28:56.080 see Ray Quorn perform for any Now, keep in mind, 1:28:56.080 --> 1:28:59.519 I listened I for I like ten thousand times, right, 1:29:00.160 --> 1:29:02.240 and but I never knew. 1:29:02.040 --> 1:29:06.320 I would see for I perform live, you know. And 1:29:06.400 --> 1:29:07.080 it was crazy. 1:29:07.160 --> 1:29:08.920 And it was all four of them there, it was. 1:29:09.120 --> 1:29:11.639 It was Ray kwe it was nice. 1:29:12.439 --> 1:29:14.920 I think I think was going okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, 1:29:15.160 --> 1:29:16.120 but you know what. 1:29:16.120 --> 1:29:17.680 I mean, And I've seen it live and for me, 1:29:17.760 --> 1:29:20.240 that was I've never seen it live before and that's 1:29:20.280 --> 1:29:23.680 like probably five or five top songs in my life. 1:29:23.720 --> 1:29:24.840 Yeah, that's an incredible song. 1:29:25.080 --> 1:29:27.360 Yeah, but anyway, can go on and on a. 1:29:27.439 --> 1:29:35.719 Drug dealer's dreams, stash scream keys under like a gentleman. 1:29:37.840 --> 1:29:42.400 Women was on your head. So the. 1:29:44.160 --> 1:29:49.800 Metropolist shoot out, the Holy Beast is watching. 1:29:49.640 --> 1:29:55.400 Us, Okay, Larry Bird or Magic Jump, Oh. 1:29:58.920 --> 1:30:02.639 Larry Bird or magical Larry Bird or anybody honestly, Yeah, 1:30:02.680 --> 1:30:05.160 I mean Larry j But Larry was that dude. If 1:30:05.200 --> 1:30:07.600 you look at today's game of Larry Gay, Larry is 1:30:07.640 --> 1:30:10.120 getting n one three point shots. So when you talk 1:30:10.160 --> 1:30:12.080 about Larry Biry being the best three point shooter, you're 1:30:12.120 --> 1:30:16.840 talking about Jesus and ones. That's what you're talking about. 1:30:17.439 --> 1:30:19.599 So and then magic is obviously great. So that's why 1:30:19.600 --> 1:30:21.680 I say magic is humble magics, like, yeah, you know 1:30:21.960 --> 1:30:24.760 these number one Magic is that dude? Like, But I 1:30:24.840 --> 1:30:28.559 think at the end of the day, if Larry wasn't 1:30:28.640 --> 1:30:31.840 hurt prow to go with Larry, but I think the 1:30:31.880 --> 1:30:33.160 body of work, you're gonna go with Magic. 1:30:33.360 --> 1:30:37.680 Okay, what's a good Magic Johnson's story that you have 1:30:37.800 --> 1:30:39.639 from playing with la because you know, you always stay 1:30:39.680 --> 1:30:40.400 close to the team. 1:30:40.880 --> 1:30:42.559 I mean for me, Magic is like I seen him 1:30:42.560 --> 1:30:43.800 pay against the Bulls, but I was a Bulls faner 1:30:43.800 --> 1:30:45.640 you understand, I was a Bulls faner so as I 1:30:45.720 --> 1:30:48.840 was a fan one time. So I didn't really see 1:30:48.920 --> 1:30:51.680 Magic a lot, but seeing his business moves was the 1:30:51.760 --> 1:30:52.080 main thing. 1:30:52.200 --> 1:30:53.040 Like what what is that? 1:30:53.160 --> 1:30:54.439 Starbucks? Starbucks? 1:30:54.680 --> 1:30:55.440 The first. 1:30:56.800 --> 1:30:57.120 Is like what? 1:30:57.920 --> 1:31:00.000 Like that was like something that we were not thinking 1:31:00.080 --> 1:31:04.760 into the So I love Magic for that honestly. The 1:31:04.840 --> 1:31:08.000 basketball piece like then you get competitive, Like I'm comparing 1:31:08.040 --> 1:31:10.280 how I would have played against Will. So for me 1:31:10.400 --> 1:31:12.120 sometimes it's like I'm like. 1:31:12.120 --> 1:31:14.599 Okay, you're talking about anybody. 1:31:15.760 --> 1:31:16.720 We would have probably. 1:31:16.439 --> 1:31:20.000 Dominated just like anybody. So we got I got that 1:31:20.200 --> 1:31:23.920 kind of feelings about about Magic and also but my 1:31:24.240 --> 1:31:24.839 his business. 1:31:25.600 --> 1:31:29.160 You got the Dodgers, he got the buying teams do it. 1:31:30.640 --> 1:31:32.439 But you didn't even think that was possible. 1:31:32.920 --> 1:31:35.439 This is a good one and this is production obviously, 1:31:36.840 --> 1:31:38.120 Molly ma or Havoc. 1:31:38.640 --> 1:31:46.560 Yeah, that's crazy, Molly Ma, have it. That is incredible. 1:31:46.920 --> 1:31:52.439 Oh yeah, you got shot. You don't want to answer? 1:31:54.080 --> 1:32:00.600 Ye uh yeah. I think want to do this for 1:32:00.720 --> 1:32:02.960 him for a while, because Havoc will say that if 1:32:03.000 --> 1:32:05.080 it wasn't for Marty Ma, he wouldn't be I think 1:32:05.120 --> 1:32:05.679 that's what happened. 1:32:05.960 --> 1:32:08.640 I mean, that's that's a good argument. And also I 1:32:08.760 --> 1:32:10.080 just want to say, I'm drinking tequilo. 1:32:10.200 --> 1:32:12.639 Yes, it's an upper yes, yes. 1:32:12.720 --> 1:32:15.680 And I'm also drinking copper natural. This is alcohol, this 1:32:15.800 --> 1:32:22.400 is worth and I'm smoking marijuana is from there, and 1:32:22.560 --> 1:32:27.400 this has no and there's no attitudes. Mister Lee, thank you. Yeah, yes, 1:32:28.560 --> 1:32:31.679 but yeah, so I'm gonna go with have it. Yeah, 1:32:32.080 --> 1:32:34.120 I'm gonna go have it. I'm gonna go yeah, because 1:32:34.120 --> 1:32:36.880 I think that's his body of work is incredible. I mean, 1:32:37.000 --> 1:32:38.880 just growing up in that I didn't start listening to 1:32:38.960 --> 1:32:40.840 rapp until ninety three. I'm an R and B guy. 1:32:41.800 --> 1:32:43.720 My favorite artist s WV. I I met him for 1:32:43.760 --> 1:32:44.160 the first time. 1:32:44.720 --> 1:32:47.400 W Yeah, I thought you was gonna say, Bobby Oh no, 1:32:47.720 --> 1:32:49.400 Bobby Brown, No, no, no. 1:32:49.640 --> 1:32:51.360 I'm SVV for the first time in my life. A 1:32:51.439 --> 1:32:53.040 year ago, I couldn't even. 1:32:52.960 --> 1:32:54.400 Move drink chance. 1:32:55.080 --> 1:32:55.599 They never been. 1:32:55.840 --> 1:32:59.200 No, let me get let me get the I ain't 1:32:59.200 --> 1:32:59.720 even talking that. 1:33:00.560 --> 1:33:02.519 I love s w V. And I saw him per phone. 1:33:02.920 --> 1:33:06.120 I saw him perform rain. You know what I mean. 1:33:06.680 --> 1:33:08.479 Marry performed last week. 1:33:09.000 --> 1:33:10.599 I want to be skipping in the next one. 1:33:10.920 --> 1:33:20.000 Yeah, yeah, Phil Jackson or pat Riley kill Jackson? Okay, 1:33:20.240 --> 1:33:23.439 obviously you and pat Riley squashed it. You have people, 1:33:23.520 --> 1:33:26.000 pat I see you scream. Let me tell you what happened. 1:33:28.320 --> 1:33:32.280 Person everything only person. I see floboard. 1:33:32.320 --> 1:33:34.720 Let me tell you what happened. Who's the editor? 1:33:35.040 --> 1:33:36.280 Your hand? Yeah? 1:33:37.479 --> 1:33:38.080 Oh you see? 1:33:38.400 --> 1:33:40.000 Now check out you see how you raise his hand right. 1:33:40.080 --> 1:33:42.840 The cameras on him. So the cameras on him. Yeah, 1:33:44.439 --> 1:33:46.360 because he didn't want to say he was an editor, 1:33:48.640 --> 1:33:49.760 and so thank you for that. 1:33:50.720 --> 1:33:51.040 All right? 1:33:51.320 --> 1:33:52.760 So now who edited to that? 1:33:53.160 --> 1:33:53.960 Who is the editor? 1:33:55.560 --> 1:33:55.880 Yeah? 1:33:56.080 --> 1:33:57.680 Okay, because man, come on. 1:33:57.800 --> 1:33:59.519 Man, you can tell the story, right. 1:33:59.760 --> 1:34:02.760 So okay, So what happened was I'm playing against the heat? 1:34:02.840 --> 1:34:03.679 I know it was Miami. 1:34:03.720 --> 1:34:04.320 I'm in Miami. 1:34:04.560 --> 1:34:05.400 I got a different. 1:34:05.120 --> 1:34:07.559 Relationship with Miami because I was putting work in that building. 1:34:09.760 --> 1:34:12.400 So but then why would I be for against Patroll? 1:34:12.520 --> 1:34:14.000 I have no reason. I never be for the heir coach, 1:34:14.920 --> 1:34:15.360 you know what I mean. 1:34:15.400 --> 1:34:17.480 But the way they edited. 1:34:18.479 --> 1:34:21.200 What happened was we was going at it. I'm cooking, Miami. 1:34:21.479 --> 1:34:27.280 There's nobody that could guard me. All your favorites right 1:34:31.760 --> 1:34:40.920 in that time, that time, that's a different time. So 1:34:41.000 --> 1:34:42.720 they're too small. So guys don't got me right soon. 1:34:45.120 --> 1:34:46.640 So we're just playing and we enter it. There was 1:34:46.680 --> 1:34:48.920 no fight, there was no texts, there was no flickran 1:34:49.000 --> 1:34:52.040 files right, but you got that's my that's my guy, 1:34:52.920 --> 1:34:56.680 like you know, mister gret Lamar owed him. Wait for 1:34:56.760 --> 1:34:58.280 they all hair so so those are my friends of 1:34:58.320 --> 1:34:59.800 Koran Butler. These guys my friends. But we don't have 1:35:00.040 --> 1:35:02.840 so that's that's that's the energy in the building. That's all. 1:35:03.200 --> 1:35:06.080 So then beginning or something I hate Coach Mack could do, 1:35:07.000 --> 1:35:11.840 not to do, could do what's his name? Sorry, coach mcado, Sorry, 1:35:12.280 --> 1:35:13.679 but that's so so maculdo. 1:35:15.040 --> 1:35:17.320 I'm talking. I ain't talking to him. I'm talking to 1:35:17.720 --> 1:35:21.400 a man. I didn't even think about you. 1:35:22.280 --> 1:35:24.000 He's like, what are you talking about? So for me, 1:35:24.760 --> 1:35:27.400 I said, okay, I'll stoop down to people's lovels. 1:35:28.120 --> 1:35:28.639 That's not down. 1:35:28.680 --> 1:35:30.439 But I should not be arguing to coach, so I'm like, 1:35:30.680 --> 1:35:36.720 look at you too, us up, but he started If 1:35:36.760 --> 1:35:38.680 you look at it frame by friend, you see he 1:35:38.760 --> 1:35:42.120 started the initiation right, but I was talking about you 1:35:42.120 --> 1:35:42.720 guys can't guard me. 1:35:42.800 --> 1:35:43.840 So I did point in a direction. 1:35:48.200 --> 1:35:50.240 So then anyway, and then as I was moving away 1:35:50.280 --> 1:35:53.120 talking to him, I had pat Radley that we had 1:35:53.160 --> 1:35:53.799 no confrontation. 1:35:54.120 --> 1:35:57.000 It was just I wasn't even pushing him. 1:35:57.640 --> 1:35:59.439 But I'm a big guy, like and I'm big at 1:35:59.479 --> 1:36:02.680 that time, so I'm just moving like y'all could get it. 1:36:02.880 --> 1:36:03.280 But I'm just. 1:36:05.120 --> 1:36:07.720 Right, and then pat Rally is like, calmed down, so 1:36:07.840 --> 1:36:09.760 what so so let's talk about Parally in that moment, 1:36:10.320 --> 1:36:11.800 he was just telling me to calm down. Like I've 1:36:11.800 --> 1:36:15.280 seen pat Rally. I've never had issue Parally in that moment. 1:36:15.400 --> 1:36:19.120 You see how he grabbed me. It wasn't malicious, but 1:36:19.360 --> 1:36:21.160 I just kept talking to Bob like and I kind 1:36:21.160 --> 1:36:24.040 of like yet, so that's how it looked. So me 1:36:24.120 --> 1:36:26.439 and Parral, I respect what what they're doing. 1:36:26.520 --> 1:36:29.000 You said you were you were saying something. I was 1:36:29.040 --> 1:36:29.880 talking to somebody. 1:36:31.360 --> 1:36:33.320 I was talking to somebody and then coach Marcael who 1:36:33.400 --> 1:36:36.759 popped up and then I accident you know pat Rally, 1:36:37.600 --> 1:36:38.040 and that's it. 1:36:38.360 --> 1:36:39.960 I didn't think that was the moment, but. 1:36:39.960 --> 1:36:44.080 They made a story talking about it right now, looks 1:36:44.080 --> 1:36:48.639 like a him like this was between me and coach Mark, 1:36:50.000 --> 1:36:52.599 had nothing to do with coach pat Rally. And then 1:36:52.920 --> 1:36:55.280 he's a player, right, He's a player who he played 1:36:55.320 --> 1:36:59.439 for Coach Bob. He was a good player, right, shout 1:36:59.560 --> 1:37:01.439 to coaching coach Bob. This old, right, but a lot 1:37:01.439 --> 1:37:03.720 of respect as a player. I'm forty six years old. 1:37:04.200 --> 1:37:07.720 But he's also competitive. But that's how I feel right now. 1:37:09.160 --> 1:37:10.840 And in his time he was big. So what he's 1:37:10.840 --> 1:37:14.680 saying this time, I can have took you wrong. Were 1:37:14.720 --> 1:37:18.559 on some basketball shit. So we're like, yeah, I know you're. 1:37:18.479 --> 1:37:24.720 Old, but you can get it, you know what I mean? 1:37:25.160 --> 1:37:27.240 You know what, they made it a story. I was like, okay, 1:37:28.240 --> 1:37:33.080 all right, better way age you are basketball. 1:37:33.240 --> 1:37:35.559 I'm still is basketball. I'm still looking at these guys. 1:37:35.600 --> 1:37:37.200 I'm sizing them up. I can't guard him, I know 1:37:37.280 --> 1:37:39.640 I can't guard him, but I'm sizing everybody up. 1:37:40.200 --> 1:37:44.839 Okay, ninety six Bulls or seventeen Warriors. 1:37:46.000 --> 1:37:50.880 Damn ninety six Bulls seven. I'm gonna go with the Bulls. Yeah, yeah, 1:37:50.920 --> 1:37:52.679 I mean I'm definitely go with the bulls. You can't 1:37:52.680 --> 1:37:53.200 guard him. 1:37:54.920 --> 1:37:54.960 That. 1:37:55.320 --> 1:38:00.280 You can't guard Mike, all right, you can't guard Mike. Okay, 1:38:01.560 --> 1:38:05.639 Uh Kareem or Wilt Chamberlain. 1:38:07.439 --> 1:38:11.880 Wow, Kareem or Wilt Chamberlain. Okay, Well, I feel like, 1:38:11.920 --> 1:38:14.720 what's the greatest player ever? You know what I mean? 1:38:14.720 --> 1:38:16.240 Because of why he's done? And you look at Kareem. 1:38:16.400 --> 1:38:18.519 If you look at Kareem's body of work, you'll see, 1:38:19.439 --> 1:38:22.439 you know, you'll see that he he has an argument 1:38:22.479 --> 1:38:25.880 against Lebron. You'll see that because of the college record. Well, 1:38:25.920 --> 1:38:28.280 you look at Will look at his stats fifty and 1:38:28.400 --> 1:38:30.880 they say, oh, he couldn't have did he couldn't have 1:38:30.960 --> 1:38:35.280 done that. Today he played against Kareem abdu Jabal and 1:38:35.360 --> 1:38:39.600 he's also and Kareem played against Hakeem right right. The 1:38:39.680 --> 1:38:42.160 lineage is there? Yeah, to make so you when you 1:38:42.200 --> 1:38:43.760 look at that lineage one hundred points and. 1:38:44.200 --> 1:38:45.640 People don't really understand that. 1:38:45.880 --> 1:38:50.000 The argument about uh Kareem saying the college games, yeah, 1:38:50.560 --> 1:38:52.200 I want can you speak a little bit on it? 1:38:53.000 --> 1:38:55.280 I mean, so the argument on Kareean playing the college 1:38:55.320 --> 1:38:58.439 games is that he's won national titles at. 1:38:58.400 --> 1:39:01.120 U C l a, no, no, no, I'm sorry, I'm 1:39:01.120 --> 1:39:01.920 thinking some other ship. 1:39:02.160 --> 1:39:06.400 But Lebron's longevity in the NBA is because he skipped 1:39:06.400 --> 1:39:07.280 four years of college. 1:39:07.320 --> 1:39:09.120 Okay, so in terms of years, they both played the 1:39:09.120 --> 1:39:11.880 same amount of time. Kareean played more, right, Yeah, played 1:39:11.920 --> 1:39:13.519 more And that's why you got to make the argument 1:39:13.560 --> 1:39:15.479 of screen because he played more years. He also went 1:39:15.520 --> 1:39:18.320 to college and he was able to sustain that greatness 1:39:18.479 --> 1:39:20.840 freshman year, right right, you know? And then yeah, so 1:39:20.920 --> 1:39:24.040 that's why people don't know about Kareem, but he has 1:39:24.080 --> 1:39:25.960 an argument to be the greatest. At some point, they're 1:39:25.960 --> 1:39:27.760 gonna do the math got at some. 1:39:27.760 --> 1:39:29.800 Point they didn't go to college. And the first year 1:39:29.880 --> 1:39:30.960 he kind of sat on the bench. 1:39:31.479 --> 1:39:33.760 Oh yeah, that's straight in there, that's true. Right, But 1:39:33.840 --> 1:39:36.120 if you think's first four years and he played on 1:39:36.120 --> 1:39:38.400 the freshman team, he played in the freshman team. Yeah, 1:39:38.400 --> 1:39:41.360 he played in the freshman team. Wow, and that does 1:39:41.439 --> 1:39:42.200 not happen today. 1:39:43.160 --> 1:39:47.559 Yeah, man, So Cam or Mace, yeh, that's crazy. Cam 1:39:47.640 --> 1:39:49.680 shout out the camp cams. My guy, shout out the 1:39:49.720 --> 1:39:53.479 cam because you know, I text him and that's why guy. 1:39:54.000 --> 1:39:56.080 And then Mace. I played with Mace. I know Cam's 1:39:56.080 --> 1:40:00.120 guys shout out to Calvin and and Dipset all you guys, but. 1:40:03.280 --> 1:40:05.920 Mace, it's not it's not easy. 1:40:06.479 --> 1:40:08.920 But when you look at who makes performed like he 1:40:09.000 --> 1:40:12.360 performed Biggie and we are we going to just discredit them, 1:40:13.040 --> 1:40:15.880 you know, I'm gonna add that. And because Cam is. 1:40:15.880 --> 1:40:19.960 Also yeah, he's he was created, but Cam was signed 1:40:19.960 --> 1:40:20.360 a Biggie. 1:40:20.800 --> 1:40:23.120 I didn't know that, certainly, I didn't know. But they 1:40:23.160 --> 1:40:25.080 also Cam created Max, not created Max B. But he 1:40:25.160 --> 1:40:26.880 was in that Max B R right, they at some 1:40:26.920 --> 1:40:30.680 point in time they was working together. Max B is 1:40:30.720 --> 1:40:33.200 more Jim Jones Okay, sorry, leading Jim Jones. 1:40:33.520 --> 1:40:34.519 Yeah, all right, So. 1:40:37.400 --> 1:40:39.360 There's an argument to be made that Cam was in 1:40:39.400 --> 1:40:41.680 the group, you know what I mean, of course, And 1:40:41.760 --> 1:40:43.400 then this argument because when you look at Max B, 1:40:43.520 --> 1:40:44.040 I mean who. 1:40:45.120 --> 1:40:46.519 He came home and got on fire. 1:40:46.640 --> 1:40:48.320 I was actually signing Max B before he went in. 1:40:51.360 --> 1:40:54.400 I was trying to get him out of the Jones contract. Yeah, 1:40:54.439 --> 1:40:56.200 but then it was hard because of everything he's going through. 1:40:56.360 --> 1:40:57.880 But I was trying to I was trying to get 1:40:57.920 --> 1:40:58.439 that contract. 1:40:58.760 --> 1:41:00.720 He was trying to sign Max B just to buy him. 1:41:00.800 --> 1:41:03.000 Jim Jones, Oh, okay, because it sounds like you said 1:41:03.040 --> 1:41:03.920 you was signing to Max. 1:41:04.000 --> 1:41:05.360 No no, no, no, no business. 1:41:05.439 --> 1:41:05.600 He was. 1:41:05.760 --> 1:41:07.360 It's on YouTube is a video shout out the map. 1:41:07.360 --> 1:41:09.160 It's good to see him. I don't I don't get 1:41:09.280 --> 1:41:11.880 people's business, but it's good to it's good to see 1:41:11.920 --> 1:41:12.200 him home. 1:41:12.479 --> 1:41:15.880 Okay, Shack or Wimby Man. 1:41:15.760 --> 1:41:19.720 I'm going with Shock. Thank you for asking that today. Yeah, 1:41:20.439 --> 1:41:22.360 you have bet for Shack to be for Shock. 1:41:22.479 --> 1:41:29.120 You snuffed my No, I didn't Snufflet's boxing. 1:41:29.920 --> 1:41:34.000 I saw it this morning. Man, was Brad Miller my 1:41:34.080 --> 1:41:37.880 gout in Chicago. It's only the Shock is a beast. 1:41:37.920 --> 1:41:41.360 But Brad Miller foul Shack Hall, he's in Chicago. So 1:41:41.479 --> 1:41:43.880 keep in mind this is year Lagas one. He was 1:41:43.880 --> 1:41:45.880 the worsteam and lead. We had thirteen wins. He beat 1:41:45.920 --> 1:41:46.639 the Lagas twice. 1:41:47.360 --> 1:41:48.560 But it was like one of those games. Man. He 1:41:48.680 --> 1:41:49.479 just got joked that night. 1:41:51.479 --> 1:41:56.280 So Brad foul shocked hard and then Shaq tries to 1:41:56.320 --> 1:41:59.920 punch brad head off. So what happens is Oakley goes in, 1:42:00.120 --> 1:42:05.200 So no pus you go. Oakley go right right, because 1:42:05.240 --> 1:42:06.960 if you don't go with Oakley, go but you're in 1:42:07.040 --> 1:42:09.160 the locker room it's gonna be a problem. He bought 1:42:09.240 --> 1:42:09.639 that life. 1:42:10.240 --> 1:42:12.320 Yeah, he smacked in the back of the head one time. Yeah, 1:42:13.120 --> 1:42:16.559 so it's like openly double ship twice. 1:42:17.400 --> 1:42:19.760 Did you did you notice or did anybody noticed? In 1:42:19.840 --> 1:42:23.840 this last nixt run, all the old Knicks fans, the 1:42:23.880 --> 1:42:26.400 old Knick players, everybody was core sided every game. 1:42:27.240 --> 1:42:30.120 I was the only one that was Oakley. But but 1:42:30.200 --> 1:42:31.960 he came to the he got he came to the 1:42:32.400 --> 1:42:32.880 away again. 1:42:33.600 --> 1:42:41.280 He was never because you got you got last. 1:42:43.240 --> 1:42:47.080 My perspective, all right, because Opley was just as l 1:42:47.120 --> 1:42:47.320 as you. 1:42:47.400 --> 1:42:49.479 But he would do an off camera Openley. 1:42:49.760 --> 1:42:50.439 I mean he was. 1:42:52.360 --> 1:42:54.479 Definitely wasn't the same office player. Both we did the 1:42:54.520 --> 1:42:58.360 same thing. Because I was enforced I can also score. 1:42:58.200 --> 1:43:01.000 Okay, yeah yeah, so I was you. 1:43:01.040 --> 1:43:01.680 A hand man? 1:43:02.160 --> 1:43:05.479 Yeah yeah, I guess feeling too was traditional the Next, 1:43:05.520 --> 1:43:07.800 like I saw in nineteen ninety nine. I'm from New York. 1:43:07.920 --> 1:43:09.760 I was supposed to get drafted by the Knicks. Did 1:43:09.920 --> 1:43:12.680 happen whatever, long story, so, but I did play for 1:43:12.720 --> 1:43:14.479 the Next in twenty fifteen, So that was a dreaming 1:43:14.479 --> 1:43:15.240 minine to play for the Next. 1:43:15.640 --> 1:43:18.680 I got John's and the Knicks. Bro that's some real 1:43:18.800 --> 1:43:22.360 new York toos story. 1:43:22.479 --> 1:43:24.320 Man, it's not quite Jose Alvarade. 1:43:26.760 --> 1:43:30.559 He was over there in New Orleans something. You got 1:43:30.640 --> 1:43:32.920 to get his jersey. You would have been me if 1:43:32.920 --> 1:43:34.280 you would have won the chip on the Knicks, you 1:43:34.280 --> 1:43:38.320 would that story, Your story would have been up there 1:43:38.400 --> 1:43:38.720 with him. 1:43:39.160 --> 1:43:42.519 I love his story too, his story. I won his jersey, right, 1:43:42.640 --> 1:43:42.960 me too? 1:43:43.280 --> 1:43:44.120 Like I need a sign? 1:43:44.360 --> 1:43:52.360 Yeah, me too, for sure for me? Who listening, John? 1:43:52.520 --> 1:43:54.599 He got my jersey sign too. You don't want who 1:43:54.600 --> 1:43:56.400 took it back? To get a signed by jailing? So 1:43:56.920 --> 1:43:59.439 I asked us, I get my jersey, take you back? 1:43:59.479 --> 1:43:59.720 Thank you? 1:44:00.280 --> 1:44:04.800 Right, that's for sure? Ready clips of E p m D. 1:44:06.720 --> 1:44:10.639 I'm gonna go e p m D because that's my era, 1:44:11.760 --> 1:44:13.760 you know what I mean? I also the clips is 1:44:13.760 --> 1:44:15.560 the era, but eb m D is my era. And 1:44:15.720 --> 1:44:17.240 also I used to see Eric come through the hood. 1:44:18.280 --> 1:44:21.439 He had a he had a baby, a lady on 1:44:21.520 --> 1:44:26.280 the third floor, and I loved him in my family 1:44:27.000 --> 1:44:28.880 and I didn't even know, but I used to see him. 1:44:29.280 --> 1:44:35.280 Sermon was out there, not sermon, well that's d p 1:44:35.400 --> 1:44:40.719 m D. But not sermon one only Eric, okay, Eric Servon, 1:44:41.360 --> 1:44:42.240 Sorry cerus man. 1:44:42.920 --> 1:44:48.559 Who I think scratch. I think I'm getting it all wrong. Clips, 1:44:49.160 --> 1:44:51.240 I'm getting it all wrong. My pardon me? Rock him? 1:44:51.439 --> 1:44:51.760 Who is this? 1:44:51.920 --> 1:44:52.200 Who's this? 1:44:54.760 --> 1:44:58.840 Get it wrong? That's why I was getting wrong. Yeah, 1:44:59.280 --> 1:45:01.519 because he's just like Eric. But I haven't thought about 1:45:01.560 --> 1:45:02.200 this in so long. 1:45:02.680 --> 1:45:03.840 So let's just take a shot for that. 1:45:04.280 --> 1:45:04.479 Yeah. 1:45:04.600 --> 1:45:13.479 Yeah, but you will see why I confuse him, Eric said, 1:45:13.640 --> 1:45:14.720 getting jammed up right there. 1:45:14.760 --> 1:45:17.120 Okay, So okay, sorry, okay, So E p m D. 1:45:17.120 --> 1:45:18.680 I'm gonna go with E p m D because some 1:45:18.800 --> 1:45:22.880 other reasons I think in our era A yeah, E 1:45:22.960 --> 1:45:25.960 p m D. Okay, okay, you talk more about it 1:45:26.040 --> 1:45:27.200 on their show, but I don't want. 1:45:27.040 --> 1:45:31.120 To hold that's all good? Cat well, Patrick Ewing. 1:45:32.360 --> 1:45:37.760 Right now everything, Patrick Ewing, Thanks, they're not ready. I 1:45:37.840 --> 1:45:43.120 gotta do one more? Yeah, good, Sorry, Brunton has to 1:45:43.240 --> 1:45:46.840 win again, right because he's there now, he's he's even, 1:45:46.880 --> 1:45:48.519 he's even, he's definitely even. 1:45:49.560 --> 1:45:49.760 Yeah. 1:45:50.120 --> 1:45:52.920 And then but cat, Cat, we need to win it twice. 1:45:55.200 --> 1:45:56.200 Cat, we need to win twice. 1:45:56.560 --> 1:46:01.120 I feel like cat he he he was like a 1:46:01.200 --> 1:46:03.680 perfect piece of the puzzle, you know what I mean. 1:46:04.439 --> 1:46:07.479 And they got rid of the white guy right. It 1:46:07.600 --> 1:46:12.920 was heard runs and because there was three of them 1:46:12.920 --> 1:46:16.519 that played in was about I can never say your 1:46:16.600 --> 1:46:17.479 name was? 1:46:17.600 --> 1:46:18.200 It was three of them? 1:46:18.240 --> 1:46:18.680 Are four of them? 1:46:18.800 --> 1:46:19.840 Three of them three? 1:46:20.880 --> 1:46:21.080 Yeah? 1:46:21.120 --> 1:46:25.120 Yeah, Michael Bridges, Potensi O Brunson and Heart incredible and 1:46:25.160 --> 1:46:26.200 they were all on the next on. 1:46:26.280 --> 1:46:33.920 Nova since your let when they brought Michael overh okay, okay, okay, right, 1:46:34.520 --> 1:46:36.080 and it kind of kind of was like, I'm gonna 1:46:36.120 --> 1:46:40.960 go past okay, yeah, but you make a point? You 1:46:41.520 --> 1:46:45.360 how you? And is uh like that? That's my era too. 1:46:45.439 --> 1:46:47.320 Yeah, I love that team just as much as this team. 1:46:47.760 --> 1:46:52.200 Remember when Jordan what was it Jordan who dunked one? 1:46:52.479 --> 1:46:55.880 That was a controversy okay and win. The baseline to 1:46:56.360 --> 1:46:59.120 that was a tough Knicks team too, like that bro 1:46:59.240 --> 1:46:59.960 Anthony Mason. 1:47:02.040 --> 1:47:04.559 They went seven against the Bulls, right, so they wasn't 1:47:04.680 --> 1:47:07.479 like what it should have been team They went seven 1:47:07.520 --> 1:47:09.040 against I think in the championship right then. 1:47:09.600 --> 1:47:12.280 The Rockers, the Rocks, Rocks White Kenny Smith won both 1:47:12.320 --> 1:47:12.719 of them. 1:47:12.600 --> 1:47:15.439 Right, just the Rockets one of them. 1:47:15.520 --> 1:47:18.879 Yes, So that's what I would Yeah. 1:47:19.160 --> 1:47:22.200 He dunk on Pat Gotdy dunk du Pat in Game five? 1:47:25.320 --> 1:47:27.360 Charles Hopley or Dennis Robman. 1:47:30.040 --> 1:47:32.519 I'm gonna go with Dennis, not because Charles is not 1:47:32.600 --> 1:47:34.960 my guy, right, Charles, Charles make. 1:47:34.920 --> 1:47:39.200 Me ba ahead the video game. Yeah, I'm gonna go Dennis, okay, 1:47:41.400 --> 1:47:42.920 because I want to get back to the Charles story 1:47:42.960 --> 1:47:47.880 for one second. But before that, like you said earlier, 1:47:47.920 --> 1:47:51.479 you said, probably your game is similar. But between you 1:47:51.560 --> 1:47:54.040 and Dennis, rob mean you could use the score off. 1:47:56.800 --> 1:47:59.400 He was considered that enforced as well, and a rebounder. 1:47:59.520 --> 1:48:03.880 Correct, there wasn't hopefully, no, no, no, no, Dennis wasn't 1:48:03.920 --> 1:48:06.840 enforcing rebounding for sure because in the lockdown and also 1:48:06.840 --> 1:48:08.599 an individual lockdown player, right. 1:48:08.720 --> 1:48:11.120 Because his story kind of reminded me of you and 1:48:11.240 --> 1:48:15.920 Kobe's story, like how Jordan went against him and then 1:48:16.040 --> 1:48:17.840 kind of like that's why I always start and then 1:48:17.920 --> 1:48:22.240 kind of kind of like then didn't play robbing because like, yeah, 1:48:22.360 --> 1:48:25.040 he wanted because I think that's when Jordan's lost to 1:48:25.080 --> 1:48:28.000 the Pistols and he felt like his crew was was soft, 1:48:28.320 --> 1:48:32.280 so he recruited. Uh yeah, I actually I think Thomas 1:48:32.320 --> 1:48:34.640 about this too, so ironic. 1:48:34.479 --> 1:48:36.840 But Dennis also score, he could move her athletics, so 1:48:36.960 --> 1:48:40.519 Dennis can like like like locked up right magic at 1:48:40.600 --> 1:48:41.760 some point in time, not all the time. 1:48:41.800 --> 1:48:42.560 But he can get it. 1:48:42.640 --> 1:48:45.280 He can get into Lebron like Dennis defense. 1:48:45.080 --> 1:48:49.839 Was elite's that's the difference. Break rebounded. 1:48:49.840 --> 1:48:51.240 He could run up the Yeah, but his stat would 1:48:51.240 --> 1:48:53.680 be like three points thirty rebounds. 1:48:55.560 --> 1:48:56.240 Crazy book. 1:48:56.520 --> 1:48:59.240 Yeah, he was doing his job though he was supposed 1:48:59.240 --> 1:48:59.559 to do right. 1:49:01.000 --> 1:49:02.599 He may call him the worm. 1:49:03.520 --> 1:49:03.720 Yeah. 1:49:03.920 --> 1:49:06.760 I love doing ninety one. Yeah, I got suspended high 1:49:06.800 --> 1:49:09.200 in expected gets suspended in this jersey. I wanted to 1:49:09.280 --> 1:49:11.959 with the championship in this jersey, but I want ninety. 1:49:11.720 --> 1:49:15.800 One for Dennis. He just did That's dope. He was 1:49:15.840 --> 1:49:17.479 all he was an ill rebound that he was an 1:49:17.640 --> 1:49:17.960 l dude. 1:49:18.200 --> 1:49:21.599 Yeah, I've seen Dennis performing. He I've seen him in Houston. 1:49:22.080 --> 1:49:24.679 He was performing. You know, you'll be all athletes do music, 1:49:25.160 --> 1:49:28.280 Dennis lack of music. You should have him opened up 1:49:28.320 --> 1:49:31.280 somewhere the show. It was dope. 1:49:32.280 --> 1:49:35.120 He was. Yeah, I love Donnish. 1:49:35.320 --> 1:49:38.000 We took my I think you made perform. 1:49:39.360 --> 1:49:39.840 He had up. 1:49:43.200 --> 1:49:47.679 Yeah, just people. 1:49:48.040 --> 1:49:49.920 I'd be like, it's a certain crowd. You get two 1:49:50.000 --> 1:49:53.400 for one, you know, it's a certain crowd brings out 1:49:53.479 --> 1:49:54.479 that brings out that. 1:49:55.000 --> 1:49:55.160 Yeah. 1:49:55.240 --> 1:50:07.160 So with the Carell Yeah, North Korea, Yeah, Yeah, but 1:50:07.320 --> 1:50:07.679 he didn't. 1:50:08.800 --> 1:50:12.559 I said that, didn't you go to Greece. 1:50:13.000 --> 1:50:14.680 I went to Greece to do an album, to. 1:50:14.760 --> 1:50:16.200 Do an album, I thought it was to play for 1:50:16.320 --> 1:50:16.840 the Greece team. 1:50:16.880 --> 1:50:19.599 Now I went there. I went to play in Italy. Okay, okay, okay, 1:50:20.040 --> 1:50:21.880 after my last two years in my career. 1:50:22.040 --> 1:50:22.559 It was great. 1:50:22.800 --> 1:50:24.640 I just I just took a trip because it was 1:50:24.640 --> 1:50:26.519 like I'm in my line every day, I impositive out. 1:50:27.080 --> 1:50:30.360 I went out there for three months, you know what 1:50:30.360 --> 1:50:30.559 I mean. 1:50:30.680 --> 1:50:32.000 Played. I love Italy. 1:50:32.200 --> 1:50:34.320 But yeah, Greece actually is a is a group called 1:50:34.360 --> 1:50:36.680 Active Member. They dope and I listened to the music. 1:50:36.720 --> 1:50:39.840 It's the only album I listened to, you know what 1:50:39.880 --> 1:50:42.000 I mean. And it's like Marv Deef is like Marv Deep. 1:50:42.040 --> 1:50:44.479 They call it Active Member, they don't and I don't 1:50:44.520 --> 1:50:48.839 know what they're saying to this day, honestly, Yeah. 1:50:48.720 --> 1:50:54.760 Yeah, yeah, okay, So ha kum or David Robinson. 1:50:55.160 --> 1:50:59.240 M m I'm gonna go Hakim because yeah, I came, 1:50:59.360 --> 1:51:01.640 was just like guy. People say he would have beat 1:51:01.680 --> 1:51:04.000 Mike if Michael's dead, by the way, so that's the debate. 1:51:05.640 --> 1:51:07.080 I don't think so. I think Mike would have won 1:51:07.120 --> 1:51:08.160 two more titles. 1:51:07.840 --> 1:51:11.200 But or if Mike was there, right, he was there? 1:51:11.240 --> 1:51:12.800 Like what what would have happened if Michael's dead? 1:51:12.960 --> 1:51:15.439 Yeah? Yeah, bigs one of the main That should be 1:51:15.439 --> 1:51:17.400 a big that should be a drink chair sports discussion. 1:51:21.000 --> 1:51:22.639 So we're gonna finish this time. You're gonna go back 1:51:22.640 --> 1:51:23.240 into the interview. 1:51:23.320 --> 1:51:24.439 I mean, yeah, for sure, I'm good. 1:51:24.600 --> 1:51:26.920 This is the last one. It's called loyalty or respect? 1:51:27.120 --> 1:51:30.920 Which one you take it? You could take you can 1:51:31.000 --> 1:51:33.479 take both and take a shot. Take a shot, take 1:51:33.479 --> 1:51:41.599 a shot, cheers. Dam So that makes you saying both? 1:51:41.640 --> 1:51:43.360 Would I got to pick one? 1:51:43.400 --> 1:51:43.880 Okay, you can. 1:51:45.040 --> 1:51:50.080 I think I had to pick one. I would say 1:51:50.120 --> 1:51:53.559 respect because you never do something in that respect. Okay 1:51:53.960 --> 1:51:55.800 you know what I mean, because like people got their lives, 1:51:55.880 --> 1:51:57.840 Like I can't hold somebody. I don't know what's not thinking. 1:51:57.840 --> 1:51:59.840 I don't control you. So if I have to pick 1:51:59.880 --> 1:52:02.160 on Pip respect, you know what I mean? 1:52:10.080 --> 1:52:13.400 The baby sit you? Yeah, that's kidding me. 1:52:13.680 --> 1:52:17.920 I love telling that story saying it's like I'm like 1:52:18.840 --> 1:52:20.800 in New York, we're a little different. We have a 1:52:20.840 --> 1:52:23.760 lot of these different little competitions like who hood is better? 1:52:24.680 --> 1:52:27.000 In your hood? You have other little competitions, like that's 1:52:27.040 --> 1:52:30.080 what's important to us. Like, I don't care how much 1:52:30.080 --> 1:52:31.880 I'm not. I'm not making a point with you based 1:52:31.880 --> 1:52:34.639 on how much money I made. I'm having a point 1:52:34.680 --> 1:52:38.240 where you based off this street. And I think that 1:52:38.439 --> 1:52:42.559 my you know, my daughter having a baby with the content. 1:52:43.560 --> 1:52:44.120 Sorry he's. 1:52:45.520 --> 1:52:46.559 That's my son in law. 1:52:47.160 --> 1:52:47.680 I love him. 1:52:49.200 --> 1:52:52.120 So I got three kids, three of my grandchildren from Compton. 1:52:53.120 --> 1:52:59.400 All right, so now we on Compton's westructions. So we 1:53:00.120 --> 1:53:00.799 have a discussion. 1:53:00.880 --> 1:53:05.439 Got a block on court bombed in ahead? Yeah yeah, yeah, 1:53:05.479 --> 1:53:09.160 yeah they do. Oh yeah, he's getting excited. 1:53:09.439 --> 1:53:12.400 I remember, like you know, they don't say certain stuff, no, no. 1:53:12.520 --> 1:53:14.960 No, but but but but did you know that was 1:53:15.680 --> 1:53:18.160 say what she was baby said, go back to yeah 1:53:18.200 --> 1:53:20.920 yeah yeah yeah yeah did you did you know that legend? 1:53:21.120 --> 1:53:24.160 Six months? So my mom because Roxxayanne grew up in 1:53:24.360 --> 1:53:27.599 homes bing okay, and my mom will pay you rock 1:53:27.680 --> 1:53:30.680 saying fifty cents. I think fifty it's back to then, 1:53:30.760 --> 1:53:32.760 I think fifty cent. My mom told me to baby 1:53:32.800 --> 1:53:33.760 sit me how six months? 1:53:34.000 --> 1:53:34.240 Wow? 1:53:34.320 --> 1:53:35.840 So that I'm like so proud of that. 1:53:36.400 --> 1:53:37.960 That's a that's a responsibity. 1:53:38.760 --> 1:53:42.960 It was that she continued, Yeah, she is right, fifty cents. 1:53:43.400 --> 1:53:46.360 Yeah, she wasn't fifty dollars, I bet tell you. 1:53:46.400 --> 1:53:48.439 Yeah yeah, I mean, wait, so. 1:53:50.120 --> 1:53:52.240 Fixated. We don't know what they're right, Yeah, but I 1:53:52.320 --> 1:53:53.320 think fifty cents. 1:53:54.600 --> 1:53:56.120 It's like a dollar, right when you're when you're at 1:53:56.160 --> 1:53:59.479 thirteen years old, right, But anyway, I'm so happy about 1:53:59.479 --> 1:54:02.439 whenever the was and uh and then also to say 1:54:02.479 --> 1:54:03.920 that she was one of the greatest, but that's a 1:54:03.960 --> 1:54:04.839 whole nother discussion. 1:54:05.280 --> 1:54:05.960 Was one of the greatest. 1:54:06.600 --> 1:54:08.320 She's the thing. Component to the store. 1:54:09.680 --> 1:54:10.599 With the same. 1:54:14.840 --> 1:54:23.040 I'm your money, came. 1:54:26.000 --> 1:54:29.600 The phone crazy and they go on my doctor, I 1:54:29.640 --> 1:54:33.840 got doctor the choet Stone. Now keep in mind, I 1:54:34.000 --> 1:54:35.960 negotiate my own stuff, right. 1:54:36.320 --> 1:54:39.920 So they used you guys, yes, yeah, guess me, yes, okay. 1:54:40.160 --> 1:54:42.000 And actually I didn't even know you guys on the 1:54:42.040 --> 1:54:43.960 film util I saw you. I called me and say, 1:54:44.000 --> 1:54:46.320 hold on, how do you negotiate this? Okay, okay, but 1:54:46.400 --> 1:54:46.800 they got me. 1:54:46.840 --> 1:54:47.080 Okay. 1:54:47.120 --> 1:54:52.000 That's another thing. So anyway, Compone says, you know, run 1:54:52.680 --> 1:54:56.320 she never been wrapping you said, you know. Components say, like, 1:54:56.600 --> 1:54:58.240 you know, I didn't know if he was gonna make 1:54:58.280 --> 1:55:01.600 it to forty five. So now, okay, so let's pause that, like, 1:55:01.920 --> 1:55:05.640 you know, friends, I didn't make it. So he yes, 1:55:05.760 --> 1:55:09.440 I love, I love you got friends? I shoe hold 1:55:10.520 --> 1:55:13.560 drink from okay cool, I ain't no, it ain't alcohol, 1:55:13.640 --> 1:55:17.040 but it ain't no slouch. Come on, take this out 1:55:18.800 --> 1:55:22.320 that has done a slough, all right. So then he 1:55:22.440 --> 1:55:25.160 says that, So I say, hold on, you inspired me 1:55:25.280 --> 1:55:29.040 to wrap? How are you gonna tell me when you're 1:55:29.040 --> 1:55:31.520 the guy that inspired me to wrap? I actually hit 1:55:31.600 --> 1:55:35.320 up Norya because it took me three months to respond 1:55:35.360 --> 1:55:40.720 to Nord because somebody said something. And then so I 1:55:40.880 --> 1:55:42.800 was like, oh my goodness, and get it. Can can 1:55:42.880 --> 1:55:43.280 I get into it? 1:55:43.880 --> 1:55:44.200 Let's do it. 1:55:44.480 --> 1:55:45.800 You don't remember, I'm gonna follow your. 1:55:46.680 --> 1:55:48.120 So anyway, I knew he was gonna talk about it, 1:55:48.160 --> 1:55:49.360 cause it's funny. 1:55:49.200 --> 1:55:52.120 There anyway, party you're talking, I did it, you did 1:55:52.720 --> 1:55:53.640 you did the dog, And. 1:55:53.720 --> 1:55:56.640 I'm like, well, I didn't like the terms and conditions 1:55:57.040 --> 1:55:59.160 of your terms. I didn't get a chance to negotiate 1:55:59.200 --> 1:56:02.680 you but ideal. But anyway, I see back to the poem, yeah, 1:56:03.200 --> 1:56:04.240 and then back so a. 1:56:04.320 --> 1:56:07.360 Poem like he said, I forgot what poem said? 1:56:07.440 --> 1:56:09.680 He said that I shouldn't be rapping. And you know, 1:56:10.000 --> 1:56:11.480 I ain't know what wrong I was gonna make. 1:56:11.400 --> 1:56:13.720 It past forty five. I'm like, pum, hold on the chill. 1:56:17.240 --> 1:56:19.800 I didn't say none of this stuff. I'm gonna maybe 1:56:19.840 --> 1:56:23.560 it past forty five. And also what was I doing? 1:56:23.680 --> 1:56:25.680 And then like, you know, you should have called me. 1:56:26.040 --> 1:56:28.960 They told me, you know. And then also but I'm 1:56:29.000 --> 1:56:33.440 thinking about it and seeing that, right, I think about 1:56:33.520 --> 1:56:35.800 like laky, you know what I mean, Like like and 1:56:35.880 --> 1:56:39.360 people said my brother Wally Clark, right, so it's like, 1:56:39.720 --> 1:56:43.000 why would I reach out to Lakey Because I want 1:56:43.040 --> 1:56:45.919 to see how people do better, Right, That's why I would. 1:56:45.680 --> 1:56:48.040 Reach out to I ain't think about little beef you had? 1:56:48.240 --> 1:56:53.400 Oh yeah, yeah, anything get into it much bold, that's 1:56:53.400 --> 1:56:54.160 nothing even third. 1:56:54.240 --> 1:56:59.120 Yeah, I forgot that was Yeah, so you look like 1:56:59.360 --> 1:56:59.960 a lot from. 1:57:05.680 --> 1:57:11.840 I never shot you take this shot. 1:57:12.000 --> 1:57:14.960 But it's like things because I'm always bringing back things 1:57:15.000 --> 1:57:18.680 to a business perspective, but people don't know what we do, right, 1:57:18.760 --> 1:57:20.560 So when people say certain things like don't see that, 1:57:21.520 --> 1:57:24.200 you know, because we're trying to get it, you know 1:57:24.240 --> 1:57:26.080 what I mean. But like, but yeah, so I forgot 1:57:26.120 --> 1:57:26.640 where I was at. 1:57:27.640 --> 1:57:31.880 We were talking about box saying being your babysitting that. 1:57:32.040 --> 1:57:36.720 Is it's legendary, is legendary, like yeah, a lot of 1:57:36.800 --> 1:57:40.000 legendary stuff. Man being from Queenslands was crazy. And we 1:57:40.120 --> 1:57:43.120 was talking about our guys. It was like, so if 1:57:43.160 --> 1:57:47.000 people are saying that athletes are not making the right 1:57:47.080 --> 1:57:50.960 moves financially, right, but you got to but people don't 1:57:50.960 --> 1:57:52.960 see the flip side. I was talking them, So you 1:57:53.040 --> 1:57:58.800 have some guys name about to have so I can't wait. 1:57:59.280 --> 1:58:02.280 I think three must just find Yeah, because I wanted 1:58:02.320 --> 1:58:04.240 to make sure I say the right way, I said, 1:58:04.400 --> 1:58:05.040 I got to call. 1:58:09.200 --> 1:58:12.480 You know what's crazy and this is this is the 1:58:12.600 --> 1:58:17.480 regular and everybody is here so wrong hit me and 1:58:17.640 --> 1:58:20.520 was like yo, I didn't like what these guys said. 1:58:21.040 --> 1:58:24.920 So I was like, all right, cool, So I went 1:58:24.960 --> 1:58:26.920 to look for the footage. So I had to actually 1:58:27.000 --> 1:58:30.040 like pull it up and I still don't see what 1:58:30.200 --> 1:58:37.760 you saw. So leision yes, because I think you said 1:58:37.760 --> 1:58:38.760 it was a face expression. 1:58:39.160 --> 1:58:40.640 Yes, okay, so check it out. 1:58:40.680 --> 1:58:42.800 So anyway, when I look at or remember what I 1:58:42.880 --> 1:58:46.400 said earlier that when we was at Hawaii, but I said, 1:58:46.840 --> 1:58:48.240 that's the guy you need for media. 1:58:48.320 --> 1:58:48.760 So media. 1:58:48.840 --> 1:58:52.960 You're in media business, right, right, right. So now we 1:58:53.520 --> 1:58:55.680 as people from the culture, we're just trying to make 1:58:55.720 --> 1:58:56.760 it right, you know. 1:58:56.880 --> 1:59:00.720 Because I think I think what they said was fifties 1:59:00.880 --> 1:59:05.800 vitamin water deal. Yes, yes, came from people in Queens, yes, people. 1:59:05.880 --> 1:59:07.960 Uh, and I wanted to talk about it. I wanted 1:59:08.000 --> 1:59:09.880 to have a chance, and. 1:59:09.920 --> 1:59:11.800 They said, but it was originally your deal. 1:59:12.040 --> 1:59:15.640 Yes, yes, So basically this is two thousand and seven. 1:59:15.800 --> 1:59:17.640 Okay, right, So what they didn't understand I heard. 1:59:17.800 --> 1:59:19.920 I heard this actual, Yeah, two thousand and seven it was, 1:59:20.000 --> 1:59:21.920 and they talked about it. Maybe we have to knowrry. 1:59:22.640 --> 1:59:24.280 I probably could have begged them to get on the show. 1:59:24.280 --> 1:59:27.720 But there's the reason we hear exactly. But yeah, so 1:59:27.840 --> 1:59:29.880 they said, you know, Bron missed out on the deal 1:59:31.440 --> 1:59:35.200 vitamin water two thousand whatever, and you know, you know 1:59:35.320 --> 1:59:38.520 what's crazy. And I'm just trying to act what they said. 1:59:38.760 --> 1:59:41.640 It's not like mocking them, my guys, but it's like, 1:59:41.720 --> 1:59:45.880 you know, they said and assumed that it was a 1:59:45.960 --> 1:59:47.600 dumb move. Now, yeah, it was a dumb. 1:59:47.520 --> 1:59:51.720 Move because they said that you or you quote me 1:59:51.800 --> 1:59:54.760 if I'm wrong, yeh, that you asked, you asked to 1:59:54.840 --> 1:59:56.800 get paid up front, when they yes. 1:59:57.040 --> 1:59:58.920 Yes, yes, they won the two hundred and thirty five 1:59:59.000 --> 2:00:01.880 thousand from you. Yeah, just to get right to the 2:00:01.920 --> 2:00:06.280 bullet points. What's why are we here today? Coke and 2:00:06.360 --> 2:00:10.640 Vitamin Water invests two point two point three point four 2:00:10.760 --> 2:00:14.160 whatever point ten? First point was investing for equity. I 2:00:14.160 --> 2:00:16.480 didn't know what he was two thousand and seven when 2:00:16.520 --> 2:00:19.520 ops you know, Ops, Yeah, well he hit me up. 2:00:19.640 --> 2:00:21.920 My guy, say your vitamin Water want to offer you 2:00:21.960 --> 2:00:25.520 a deal because in the community, I was marketing vitamin 2:00:25.640 --> 2:00:28.000 water because I ran the basketball for a certain amount 2:00:28.000 --> 2:00:31.120 of time. They was given my players free vitamin water. 2:00:31.320 --> 2:00:32.000 I'm like, Yo, these. 2:00:31.920 --> 2:00:33.560 Dudes is dope. I don't know who they are putting. 2:00:34.280 --> 2:00:36.480 Yo, I'm gonna put you your name on our jersey. 2:00:36.560 --> 2:00:39.120 I got y'all so in my documentary that you were 2:00:39.200 --> 2:00:42.160 on Yes, vitamin Water. They offered me that deal because 2:00:42.160 --> 2:00:45.000 I did them a favor and activated them in the community. 2:00:45.680 --> 2:00:46.960 I didn't think about that as till I just think 2:00:46.960 --> 2:00:48.760 about you giving my kids water, you. 2:00:48.760 --> 2:00:49.080 Know what I mean? 2:00:49.120 --> 2:00:51.240 So I don't know I still know equity as so anyway, 2:00:51.320 --> 2:00:55.560 at that time, I turned that deal down because I'm like, 2:00:55.680 --> 2:00:58.920 pay me think about it. I'm trying to play basketball. 2:00:58.960 --> 2:01:01.080 But also I got a man team, and I'm trying 2:01:01.080 --> 2:01:02.680 to bring my people up, and we're just trying to 2:01:02.720 --> 2:01:05.000 do this. So you wrapping up the time as weping. 2:01:05.640 --> 2:01:08.360 I'm alsto rapping, and then too many of us was rapping. 2:01:08.600 --> 2:01:10.360 I said, another story. And I tell my guys all 2:01:10.360 --> 2:01:12.840 the time, I don't wret nothing. But we had good time. 2:01:13.200 --> 2:01:16.360 But but in that deal situation, I ain't know what 2:01:16.400 --> 2:01:18.440 equity was. We're on the block on twelve Street, were 2:01:18.440 --> 2:01:20.280 smoking the blunt. I'm going there with a tank top 2:01:20.320 --> 2:01:22.040 and then blunts with my hand not even cut. 2:01:22.480 --> 2:01:23.000 You know what I mean. 2:01:23.240 --> 2:01:27.240 To the media and people would shame that, But what 2:01:27.320 --> 2:01:29.280 I would say is that was my moment in time. 2:01:29.440 --> 2:01:30.760 I'm looking up to somebody different. 2:01:31.040 --> 2:01:31.160 You know. 2:01:31.240 --> 2:01:34.640 When I came into the league, we were just saying, okay, 2:01:34.760 --> 2:01:37.120 in our neighborhood, you have a certain amount of capital. 2:01:38.000 --> 2:01:40.200 What are you going to do with that capital is 2:01:40.280 --> 2:01:40.800 on your mind? 2:01:41.200 --> 2:01:41.360 Right? 2:01:41.880 --> 2:01:43.120 How are you going to ten next step? That's what 2:01:43.160 --> 2:01:45.000 we're call an investment today. How we were ten x 2:01:45.040 --> 2:01:48.520 stack grand car doing my man right and whatever? You 2:01:48.560 --> 2:01:51.080 know what I mean, We're all in business. So for me, 2:01:53.000 --> 2:01:55.960 I got friends that now I'm in a professional environment 2:01:56.080 --> 2:02:00.440 with different type of communication. So I say the thing 2:02:01.360 --> 2:02:03.880 it it could hurt you. I can't be around you, 2:02:04.000 --> 2:02:07.560 and I also don't want to be around like certain communications. 2:02:08.040 --> 2:02:08.760 I'm in the league. 2:02:10.000 --> 2:02:11.280 So okay, you keep it. 2:02:11.480 --> 2:02:14.120 No, no, because so what turned you off is because 2:02:14.560 --> 2:02:16.440 they asked ask you for money. 2:02:16.440 --> 2:02:18.040 I'm talking about the vitamin will thank you for bad 2:02:18.040 --> 2:02:19.800 But this is all this all going into the deal. 2:02:19.960 --> 2:02:21.040 Okay, but yeah, you can cover. 2:02:20.960 --> 2:02:22.000 You off any time because. 2:02:21.760 --> 2:02:23.840 You know, because I'm just trying to understand this. 2:02:23.960 --> 2:02:24.880 Yeah, no, yes, okay. 2:02:25.240 --> 2:02:28.880 So and usually all the other deals that you were doing, 2:02:29.160 --> 2:02:31.080 they were giving you like an advance, like that's what 2:02:31.160 --> 2:02:31.680 we were saying. 2:02:31.720 --> 2:02:33.560 You get like five thousand dollars. So you're making a 2:02:33.600 --> 2:02:35.680 million dollars right, right, And let's say you're making a 2:02:35.720 --> 2:02:38.720 million dollars your first year nineteen years old, like wow, 2:02:38.760 --> 2:02:40.400 I just got money from Mike Delaurier and tell you 2:02:40.560 --> 2:02:43.320 fifteen dollars. I needed this, right, you know what I mean. 2:02:43.440 --> 2:02:46.000 So it's like you're thinking everything right. So then but 2:02:46.040 --> 2:02:49.920 if somebody give you five thousand cash, you excited about that. 2:02:49.960 --> 2:02:53.200 You should not be excited about five, but a lot 2:02:53.240 --> 2:02:56.560 of people are excited about five thousand. I'm not disrespecting 2:02:56.600 --> 2:02:59.000 five thousand, but I'm saying the five thousand should be 2:02:59.040 --> 2:03:01.440 aligned with your brain, you know. 2:03:01.400 --> 2:03:01.680 What I mean. 2:03:01.680 --> 2:03:03.120 I don't want to get into that too much, but 2:03:04.240 --> 2:03:07.920 so at this point I'm getting foped out. Maybe ninety thousand, 2:03:07.920 --> 2:03:10.440 me and Priory, you did the show. We got ninety 2:03:10.520 --> 2:03:15.720 thousand Vegas two thousand. That's good money, I think in 2:03:15.760 --> 2:03:19.120 two thousand, cool I just gained them ninety thousand. That's 2:03:19.120 --> 2:03:19.960 myfy miss records. 2:03:19.960 --> 2:03:20.440 That's good money. 2:03:21.000 --> 2:03:22.960 Such check it. Ye know, we had in Vegas and 2:03:23.200 --> 2:03:26.520 fast the long story short, and six people showed up 2:03:26.560 --> 2:03:29.280 to the show. Honestly, that show ended with two people. 2:03:29.400 --> 2:03:32.080 Now keep in mind as a story I would tell 2:03:32.200 --> 2:03:33.520 because it's really funny. 2:03:33.800 --> 2:03:34.720 We know who mob is. 2:03:34.920 --> 2:03:37.480 Of course, the marketing was wrong, it was crazy. But anyway, 2:03:37.480 --> 2:03:40.840 I did things like that. You know what, At what. 2:03:40.920 --> 2:03:42.960 Point were we No, I'm trying to ask you, So 2:03:43.240 --> 2:03:43.840 the vitamin did? 2:03:45.520 --> 2:03:46.320 This is all that time? 2:03:46.560 --> 2:03:48.800 Thank you for bringing me back to that. This all 2:03:48.880 --> 2:03:51.120 that time. So there's nothing I didn't like about the deal. 2:03:51.600 --> 2:03:53.800 I didn't know what equity was. I just came off 2:03:53.840 --> 2:03:56.160 the block. So what I wanted to tell the gentleman 2:03:56.400 --> 2:03:58.800 was like, let's tell the whole story, because the way 2:03:58.840 --> 2:04:01.560 you because if you made, I can't assume like someone's dumb, 2:04:01.880 --> 2:04:05.480 like somebody's going through something like band two. For example, 2:04:06.560 --> 2:04:09.360 I went to school band two. I had ninety average. 2:04:09.400 --> 2:04:12.160 Band two passed every test for one hundred. I went 2:04:12.200 --> 2:04:14.080 to school band two. I got things about. 2:04:14.240 --> 2:04:14.800 That's my guy. 2:04:15.040 --> 2:04:17.760 So what I saw was a scholar. But sometimes you 2:04:17.800 --> 2:04:20.560 could be a scholar in the hood and not no 2:04:21.200 --> 2:04:24.920 navigation of life. Yeah, and I was an architect based 2:04:25.040 --> 2:04:28.960 I went to Saint John's. Okay, my Nagel architecture, you know, 2:04:29.040 --> 2:04:31.640 the damn in Princeton. Send me a letter. That don't 2:04:31.680 --> 2:04:34.480 matter because I don't have what you're talking about. 2:04:34.520 --> 2:04:35.120 I did not have. 2:04:35.520 --> 2:04:39.920 And that's okay because you could get it along. 2:04:39.720 --> 2:04:42.440 The way or hire somebody to get it. Well hiring, 2:04:42.520 --> 2:04:42.960 I said. 2:04:43.480 --> 2:04:46.040 As a corporation, you're gonna hire without a financial model. 2:04:46.640 --> 2:04:50.040 And that's the decisions the athletes are making, right, is 2:04:50.040 --> 2:04:52.240 you gonna hire, You're gonna have a financial model. So 2:04:52.360 --> 2:04:53.920 when you make it into league, you need a model. 2:04:54.160 --> 2:04:56.360 Do you have how many? How many did you have 2:04:56.440 --> 2:05:01.240 a financial moddle? So then but that's so important if 2:05:01.280 --> 2:05:03.720 you're going to shame someone for what they lost. 2:05:04.120 --> 2:05:05.120 Yeah, I don't think. 2:05:05.120 --> 2:05:05.640 I don't think. 2:05:08.520 --> 2:05:11.800 It happens to be talking about how he had an 2:05:11.840 --> 2:05:16.440 opportunity to slide signed rin. Yeah it happened, that's what. 2:05:16.760 --> 2:05:17.040 But that's what. 2:05:17.680 --> 2:05:18.520 But I went back, I. 2:05:18.520 --> 2:05:19.840 Went back as me, and you spoke about it, like 2:05:19.880 --> 2:05:21.840 you said, it was like a probably a three months man. 2:05:22.400 --> 2:05:23.760 And that's so I had. And then I talked to 2:05:23.800 --> 2:05:28.320 you again and when you said that, the part that 2:05:28.720 --> 2:05:30.800 that I think you said to me was like, man, 2:05:30.840 --> 2:05:33.360 it's his face how he said it? Yes, yes, yes, 2:05:33.720 --> 2:05:36.280 And I had went back and I went back and 2:05:36.400 --> 2:05:38.240 I looked and I really didn't. 2:05:37.960 --> 2:05:38.720 See what you're seeing. 2:05:38.720 --> 2:05:40.600 Okay, let me tell you what I see. Okay, okay, 2:05:40.760 --> 2:05:43.640 because I love these guys and we spoke and shout 2:05:43.640 --> 2:05:47.720 out to but I really wanted to speak to him. 2:05:47.720 --> 2:05:50.560 But I didn't know how that's not Cordora telling about 2:05:50.560 --> 2:05:53.800 how I feel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it seemed like they said. 2:05:54.320 --> 2:05:56.600 What I'm trying to do is encourage people like us, 2:05:56.960 --> 2:06:01.480 like don't go to jail, like school, It's okay to 2:06:01.480 --> 2:06:03.800 build your family. No matter what you talk about, it's 2:06:03.800 --> 2:06:06.320 going to take time anyway, whether you're doing time or 2:06:06.360 --> 2:06:08.080 it's going to take you a certain amount of time. 2:06:08.000 --> 2:06:09.840 To be successful, right, you know what I mean. 2:06:10.040 --> 2:06:14.680 And it's like that's so from that perspective, I use that, okay, 2:06:14.840 --> 2:06:16.080 to build them, to make my point. 2:06:16.320 --> 2:06:18.000 Okay, we want to be like you. 2:06:18.640 --> 2:06:22.360 So we want to be like you know, screwball. That's 2:06:22.440 --> 2:06:24.360 my goal in life. They got a hit record, they're 2:06:24.360 --> 2:06:26.560 making money. I can stay out of trouble. So who 2:06:26.720 --> 2:06:30.160 has I'm on the block. I don't know what equity is, 2:06:30.720 --> 2:06:32.520 you know what I mean. So from that perspective, I 2:06:32.560 --> 2:06:34.560 wanted to just tell them like that, but we had 2:06:34.600 --> 2:06:35.800 a conversation. This is awesome. 2:06:36.000 --> 2:06:37.120 This is type of content I want to do. 2:06:37.160 --> 2:06:39.000 Anyway. By the way, you know, I turned down a 2:06:39.040 --> 2:06:39.840 lot of opportunities. 2:06:40.120 --> 2:06:42.120 I mean, let's be clear. This is the thing. Equity 2:06:42.200 --> 2:06:45.400 doesn't mean shit. If the company company that's a new 2:06:45.480 --> 2:06:50.160 story with someone relevant or on fire, people will come 2:06:50.240 --> 2:06:51.480 with you with equity deals. 2:06:51.680 --> 2:06:54.280 Right, and in retrospective, a company blows, one of the 2:06:54.320 --> 2:06:56.959 ten companies might blow that we wouldn't nobody. 2:06:56.760 --> 2:06:58.920 Would know this. I remember when someone came to us 2:06:59.520 --> 2:07:03.480 and they that comes to us all the time. Yeah, 2:07:03.560 --> 2:07:07.000 the day the obviously we know what equity is now, right, 2:07:07.440 --> 2:07:10.360 But they were saying, they say shares in the company, right, 2:07:10.800 --> 2:07:13.880 And sometimes that shit on paper looks very very very 2:07:13.920 --> 2:07:17.520 sexy because like you own, it could be sixty if 2:07:17.680 --> 2:07:20.200 if they do well, If that company doesn't, what happens 2:07:20.280 --> 2:07:23.320 we put in the sweat equity, the company doesn't do well. 2:07:23.240 --> 2:07:24.160 And we don't make anything. 2:07:24.240 --> 2:07:27.880 Yeah, that's the problem. Your time, time is your time 2:07:27.960 --> 2:07:33.280 and money in retrospect, they're right now in retrospect. 2:07:33.800 --> 2:07:36.080 You wouldn't have known that. And this is and knowlt 2:07:36.280 --> 2:07:40.960 known how to launch media, would have negotiated his licenses differently. 2:07:41.600 --> 2:07:43.000 But and this is what I want to say, like 2:07:43.120 --> 2:07:44.240 I want people don't give up. 2:07:44.880 --> 2:07:46.880 That's the main thing I learned from all things that 2:07:46.920 --> 2:07:47.400 you're dealing with. 2:07:47.520 --> 2:07:49.200 Learn from all things, and you don't have to continue 2:07:49.240 --> 2:07:51.560 to go down the bad route. If it's going to 2:07:51.600 --> 2:07:53.720 take you a certain amount of time, it's okay, Like 2:07:53.840 --> 2:07:56.720 don't stop. You know what I mean? Because now here 2:07:56.760 --> 2:07:59.280 I am but forty companies in a portfolio. Yeah at 2:07:59.320 --> 2:08:02.080 that time, no, right, at that time, I didn't know. 2:08:02.440 --> 2:08:03.920 And it wasn't because I was doing it, because I 2:08:04.000 --> 2:08:05.960 was in hood. And there's a lot of people that's 2:08:05.960 --> 2:08:07.760 in the hood that's making mistakes. But I'm trying to 2:08:07.760 --> 2:08:11.840 say is listen, you don't take debate. Try to take 2:08:11.840 --> 2:08:12.320 care of your family. 2:08:12.360 --> 2:08:12.880 You got a baby. 2:08:12.880 --> 2:08:14.200 It's okay. You don't have to be the cool and 2:08:14.320 --> 2:08:15.680 you don't have to be the cool jew all the time. 2:08:15.960 --> 2:08:18.120 So anyway, but now not to not to go at 2:08:18.200 --> 2:08:19.960 those guys because I like them. That's why I had 2:08:19.960 --> 2:08:22.400 a glory and I think it's a great conversation because 2:08:22.480 --> 2:08:25.560 now social impact is conversation. So I could have went 2:08:25.600 --> 2:08:27.600 on the show. I got a couple of million to 2:08:27.760 --> 2:08:30.240 do something like everybody else is doing it. I was 2:08:30.280 --> 2:08:32.760 that guy at one point in time. 2:08:33.040 --> 2:08:33.680 I don't want to do that. 2:08:33.760 --> 2:08:36.480 I don't want to be inspiring, and I believe entertainment 2:08:36.560 --> 2:08:39.400 is inspiring. I'm here this is for any reasons. 2:08:39.520 --> 2:08:40.920 And also Erry Alesia. 2:08:41.360 --> 2:08:43.320 They're talking about this, but I was doing this a 2:08:43.360 --> 2:08:46.200 long time ago. I was talking about social impact a 2:08:46.240 --> 2:08:48.400 long time ago. So now I feel like it's my 2:08:48.480 --> 2:08:50.800 time to talk about social impact and I think it's entertaining. 2:08:51.520 --> 2:09:00.520 Yeah here he is. Yeah, yeah, it's okay. Shout out 2:09:00.520 --> 2:09:01.320 to Leasha Man. 2:09:01.480 --> 2:09:05.640 Yeah sure man, Yeah, hold on, let. 2:09:05.600 --> 2:09:07.640 Me ask you quick my note as one of the 2:09:08.120 --> 2:09:09.880 Defensive Players of the Year. 2:09:10.040 --> 2:09:11.280 Honored as a defensive player. 2:09:11.920 --> 2:09:14.080 Who do you think in your levels of high school, 2:09:14.120 --> 2:09:18.000 college and and NBA it was the hardest to guard. 2:09:19.720 --> 2:09:23.120 College and NBA or high school? I mean, yeah, so 2:09:23.640 --> 2:09:26.240 there's people from a guy named Sharon Brown. He's from 2:09:26.320 --> 2:09:28.680 far Rockaway. I also grew up on Farkaway, you know, 2:09:28.760 --> 2:09:31.440 in the summers. So I was seventy one fifteen and 2:09:31.600 --> 2:09:35.560 Sharon Brown, what's nice show? I thought he was really good, 2:09:35.680 --> 2:09:38.360 always hard to guard. Did score forty on me in 2:09:38.400 --> 2:09:41.160 the NBA. I think Team I did score forty. That's 2:09:41.200 --> 2:09:43.760 I hate that. I hate to say that, but only 2:09:43.760 --> 2:09:45.760 like two people and three people meet Lebron. He definitely 2:09:45.800 --> 2:09:47.760 had to have forty on me. So I would say, like, 2:09:49.000 --> 2:09:51.320 but when it goes back to like DP uptown, everybody 2:09:51.360 --> 2:09:54.000 know DP. You know he's a little bit tougher than 2:09:54.080 --> 2:09:56.440 Junie Sanders. These guys could have played in the NBA. 2:09:57.800 --> 2:10:00.440 But like realistically, because because you could ask one of 2:10:00.520 --> 2:10:04.160 your friends about like who is DP or you know, 2:10:04.560 --> 2:10:07.800 or who is Sharon Brown, I would say, and now 2:10:07.840 --> 2:10:09.640 we're gonna get to write to it. Like Richard Hamilton 2:10:09.720 --> 2:10:13.360 was tough. I think Richard Hamilton for me was probably 2:10:14.200 --> 2:10:18.760 tough as like Lebron because he read it's ripped. It's 2:10:18.800 --> 2:10:21.720 a different feel. He making you run, so you gotta 2:10:21.720 --> 2:10:24.040 think about it. You can't get him like gard Meta, 2:10:24.040 --> 2:10:27.960 gotta gard him right. But I'm also to sixty he's too. 2:10:28.600 --> 2:10:38.840 Oh he ain't too. I got that's two fifty chases 2:10:38.880 --> 2:10:41.200 in that. So he would he would test you a lot, 2:10:41.640 --> 2:10:43.240 and until you put it in perspective, I played against 2:10:43.280 --> 2:10:45.520 Jordan Pla, against Kobe, play against Lebron, play against rip 2:10:45.960 --> 2:10:47.280 and when I when I put it in perspective to 2:10:47.320 --> 2:10:53.160 me personally, I got ripped obviously Lebron, Sharon Brown, you 2:10:53.240 --> 2:10:53.440 know what I. 2:10:53.480 --> 2:10:56.280 Mean, channel and all all of those stages to get 2:10:56.320 --> 2:10:57.760 to a defensive Player of the Year. 2:10:58.080 --> 2:10:59.560 That's a that's that's what I'm asking. 2:10:59.560 --> 2:11:01.480 I learned that. Yeah, so I learned all the tricks 2:11:01.480 --> 2:11:02.960 I was seeing New York. I was just I saw 2:11:03.000 --> 2:11:05.360 him a ready and then I also an extream ship. 2:11:05.480 --> 2:11:07.080 So when in the league, if you try to go 2:11:07.120 --> 2:11:08.600 behind the back to the legs, I've seen that so 2:11:08.640 --> 2:11:09.160 many times. 2:11:09.280 --> 2:11:10.080 I know where you're going. 2:11:11.000 --> 2:11:13.320 So I was able to like time people up and 2:11:13.480 --> 2:11:15.680 and go get it. You cannot go behind your back 2:11:15.760 --> 2:11:16.640 right now. I know you can't. 2:11:18.240 --> 2:11:20.640 This is a question from big big Rode. Right, I 2:11:20.720 --> 2:11:25.760 had a yeah, rah raheem. Johnson too, Johns you know right, 2:11:27.200 --> 2:11:31.880 that's a whole he said. He's incredible, he said, he said, 2:11:31.920 --> 2:11:34.440 And this is good for my Miami people. He said, 2:11:34.520 --> 2:11:37.440 is the truth that you before signing the Saint John's 2:11:37.880 --> 2:11:39.840 that you was going to sign to the University of 2:11:39.960 --> 2:11:40.879 Miami Hurricane. 2:11:41.000 --> 2:11:42.680 Yeah, yeah, I've never heard. 2:11:42.560 --> 2:11:48.560 That from you. Yeah, damn, I can't see, because yes, 2:11:48.640 --> 2:11:53.680 it is so perfect going to Saint John's, But damn different, 2:11:53.960 --> 2:11:55.720 it would have been a whole different career you would 2:11:55.760 --> 2:11:57.200 have been in Miami Hurricane. 2:11:57.440 --> 2:12:01.520 Yeah, definitely for sure. Like so my major was architecture. 2:12:01.720 --> 2:12:03.720 Okay, so when I was. 2:12:03.680 --> 2:12:05.520 A bad student, I was. I wasn't a great student 2:12:05.520 --> 2:12:07.880 in the beginning. Vantu was a great student. He never 2:12:07.920 --> 2:12:10.880 got less than one hundred, you know, I was. I 2:12:10.920 --> 2:12:11.640 wasn't a great student. 2:12:11.680 --> 2:12:11.880 So I was. 2:12:11.960 --> 2:12:15.080 I came into high school failing, but then I said 2:12:15.200 --> 2:12:18.360 thirteen games because because I was failing and getting into trouble. 2:12:19.160 --> 2:12:21.000 But then my average went up every year. I ended 2:12:21.080 --> 2:12:24.960 my senior year with a ninety five average. No, No, 2:12:25.600 --> 2:12:26.480 this is after see what it was? 2:12:26.600 --> 2:12:27.040 High school? 2:12:27.640 --> 2:12:30.440 I played the Little League school type ship and I 2:12:30.520 --> 2:12:33.040 played about that bringing your Yeah. 2:12:32.920 --> 2:12:33.520 We're talking about that? 2:12:33.600 --> 2:12:35.120 Yeah, what's you again? 2:12:35.200 --> 2:12:36.160 Sorry, Sonny? 2:12:36.200 --> 2:12:37.919 Yeah, were talk about that year I played with Shamguard. 2:12:38.440 --> 2:12:40.480 So after I played high school with sham God. 2:12:40.400 --> 2:12:41.960 Well yeah, that was my next question. 2:12:42.080 --> 2:12:46.760 So then, so my major was architecture, and then Miami 2:12:46.840 --> 2:12:50.480 had an architecture major program. And then so when I 2:12:50.560 --> 2:12:52.280 came to Miami, they was telling me how they was 2:12:52.440 --> 2:12:55.520 help me become architect So I was going to Miami 2:12:55.760 --> 2:12:55.920 to you. 2:12:56.200 --> 2:12:58.440 Yeah, talking about sham God, being that you played with 2:12:58.520 --> 2:12:58.800 him for a. 2:12:58.800 --> 2:12:59.320 Couple of years. 2:13:00.320 --> 2:13:02.560 With that experience, who do you think is the closest 2:13:02.600 --> 2:13:03.200 to his handle? 2:13:03.960 --> 2:13:04.160 Man? 2:13:04.720 --> 2:13:07.560 Honestly, I think Kyrie Irbin has a better handle than Shamguard. 2:13:08.080 --> 2:13:10.680 But I think people will say Shamguard had the best 2:13:10.720 --> 2:13:13.160 handle ever. I would I would agree, But then. 2:13:13.240 --> 2:13:15.200 A lot of people say that Kyrie evolved it. 2:13:15.280 --> 2:13:17.000 You can't pitch are Shamguard in as era because you're 2:13:17.000 --> 2:13:17.440 not here. 2:13:19.400 --> 2:13:19.680 Kyrie. 2:13:19.840 --> 2:13:23.520 You know, like rayfaul Austin, how did he take that 2:13:23.680 --> 2:13:24.160 to the league? 2:13:24.240 --> 2:13:27.600 Like skipped his son is playing too? 2:13:28.280 --> 2:13:31.120 His son playing too, and I think, so you can 2:13:31.240 --> 2:13:35.040 you can like say, Kyrie, yeah, you know, ray Folk 2:13:35.320 --> 2:13:39.480 was excellent in the league as a as a as 2:13:39.480 --> 2:13:40.320 a street ball player. 2:13:41.480 --> 2:13:42.800 Did you ever do anything with an one? 2:13:44.520 --> 2:13:46.720 I never done. I played in one tournaments. I was 2:13:46.760 --> 2:13:48.960 the one era. I got Player of the Year in 2:13:49.040 --> 2:13:52.840 New York City two thousand and eight Nike prom you know. 2:13:53.040 --> 2:13:55.600 So then I'm like, I'm playing. I know that there's 2:13:55.640 --> 2:13:57.080 a player of the Year and something. Because when I 2:13:57.120 --> 2:13:58.400 got to the league, I was I was playing in 2:13:58.400 --> 2:14:00.800 the streetball I was playing four game today while I 2:14:00.800 --> 2:14:04.400 was in the league. Didn't tell you, you know, in 2:14:04.440 --> 2:14:07.880 the summer time in my crime, in different tournaments I played. 2:14:07.880 --> 2:14:10.320 I got championships every tournament. You know what I mean? 2:14:11.000 --> 2:14:12.800 You know what I mean. So, so from that perspective, 2:14:12.880 --> 2:14:13.120 it was. 2:14:13.200 --> 2:14:15.800 Like, so once again, who's in this circle saying don't 2:14:15.800 --> 2:14:16.840 do that, because what do you get hurt? 2:14:17.840 --> 2:14:20.840 But I didn't need I wasn't hurt. I was still 2:14:20.920 --> 2:14:22.920 I was still dishing up, I was still dishing out paying. 2:14:23.400 --> 2:14:26.560 I ain't hurt nobody. They they the ones I'm in 2:14:26.600 --> 2:14:28.520 the streets, I'm in New York point Bastist basketball. 2:14:28.800 --> 2:14:31.160 But I'm saying like, so in two thousand and eight, 2:14:31.400 --> 2:14:34.240 they gave the MVP to Junie Sanders. It was a night. 2:14:34.480 --> 2:14:36.600 So I got a Nike m v P and Nike 2:14:36.680 --> 2:14:38.440 Pro City two thousand and eight big, it's a big one, 2:14:39.280 --> 2:14:40.960 and I got to work at MVP a lot of those. 2:14:41.000 --> 2:14:43.680 But also but that year, Junior got Player of the 2:14:43.760 --> 2:14:46.080 Year player the summer. How he playing the summer. 2:14:46.080 --> 2:14:48.640 He didn't win Nake Pro City to Juniy but how 2:14:48.720 --> 2:14:49.080 he played. 2:14:49.240 --> 2:14:51.520 But Nike didn't want to give me. They didn't want 2:14:51.520 --> 2:14:53.480 to give me a can. I'm not signing Nike. I 2:14:54.040 --> 2:14:57.040 don't got no difusion. I'll wear Nike. I'm the player 2:14:57.040 --> 2:14:58.680 of the year in the city. You're the guys that 2:14:58.800 --> 2:15:02.040 make it relevant, you know what I mean? So that 2:15:02.200 --> 2:15:03.840 year I should have been playing yet. But I say 2:15:03.880 --> 2:15:07.000 that because I mean, I mean, I really respect the players. 2:15:07.400 --> 2:15:10.200 I really respect the New York City game man. Yeah, absolutely, 2:15:10.280 --> 2:15:14.640 Like Raheen Johnson was Raheim Johnson. His man was the 2:15:14.840 --> 2:15:16.480 best player above Mike Chatfield. 2:15:17.240 --> 2:15:19.160 Raheem was the guy. 2:15:19.120 --> 2:15:22.320 That we was a level down under, right, you know 2:15:22.320 --> 2:15:27.680 what I mean? Was that guy he had thirty five 2:15:27.880 --> 2:15:29.480 in the eighth grade, were watching him. He playing with 2:15:29.520 --> 2:15:32.920 the high school kids with Stephan Marlbury. Maro was on 2:15:33.000 --> 2:15:34.880 the floor. I wasn't on the floor in mart Berry 2:15:35.320 --> 2:15:38.280 at that age. And Rahee had thirty. Now rah heem 2:15:38.400 --> 2:15:39.080 was that deal. 2:15:39.360 --> 2:15:43.000 Yeah, I'll be telling study. He always challenged right here, 2:15:47.680 --> 2:15:54.120 I didn't know. Wow, see the pictures Hi. 2:15:54.120 --> 2:15:57.840 With Kobe Rock gave me thirty. I ds Parker Revers 2:15:57.960 --> 2:16:01.960 was him thirty? I mean you was young, and he 2:16:02.120 --> 2:16:05.400 was taller, and I played against him in encore and 2:16:05.440 --> 2:16:07.280 he gave me work. But as I got taller. 2:16:08.080 --> 2:16:09.800 But it was a certain point in time, it wasn't 2:16:09.800 --> 2:16:11.080 It was not even fair. 2:16:11.720 --> 2:16:12.720 It wasn't even fair. 2:16:14.080 --> 2:16:17.320 Man ra would have been that. Let me tell you 2:16:17.440 --> 2:16:21.680 that he stopped playing. Yeah, he looking rab like you 2:16:21.680 --> 2:16:24.840 would look at Kobe or Lebron or okay, go go 2:16:24.920 --> 2:16:29.880 step goal level. But under that, that's okay, right, that's okay. 2:16:30.200 --> 2:16:36.240 I see hear it all the time. I'm telling you 2:16:36.280 --> 2:16:39.760 that I played against him because at one point that's 2:16:39.760 --> 2:16:41.640 what I felt like. I think he's one year older 2:16:41.680 --> 2:16:47.480 than you all the same you lamar old him and 2:16:47.720 --> 2:16:49.520 I forget the other players like we used to go 2:16:49.600 --> 2:16:52.600 see because remember, like you just said, far rockaway remember this. 2:16:53.080 --> 2:16:56.160 There was a it wasn't rock Up, but it was 2:16:56.240 --> 2:16:59.320 in South Jamaica and it was this dude that used 2:16:59.360 --> 2:17:03.520 to play the name. Okay, yeah, so I just remember 2:17:03.560 --> 2:17:06.800 all that error. But let me change the change the subject. 2:17:07.600 --> 2:17:11.000 Is it true you worked in Circus City the NBA? Yes, 2:17:11.560 --> 2:17:20.600 just move, but. 2:17:22.360 --> 2:17:23.240 I'm not making. 2:17:26.200 --> 2:17:29.360 I wasn't they said, they said that you were born. 2:17:29.520 --> 2:17:31.160 They it wasn't a money. 2:17:31.080 --> 2:17:33.640 Because it wasn't a money thing. But you don't have 2:17:33.800 --> 2:17:36.080 you can't get things you want and that is the 2:17:36.120 --> 2:17:38.280 money thing. But you still want to get the DVD 2:17:38.520 --> 2:17:42.119 if you buy ten for DVDs like that's doing. 2:17:49.959 --> 2:17:50.640 It was great now? 2:17:51.400 --> 2:17:53.560 Yeah, because I don't got the budge. 2:17:54.320 --> 2:17:57.560 I can't do you know, I gotta go to great Hair. 2:17:58.120 --> 2:18:04.320 You learned that ship Queens with top story? So which 2:18:04.360 --> 2:18:04.720 team means? 2:18:04.760 --> 2:18:08.000 Do you want to the bulls? With the bulls that 2:18:08.120 --> 2:18:10.600 paid for my car system to have price of everything? 2:18:10.680 --> 2:18:11.840 So that's where I went in. 2:18:12.000 --> 2:18:15.560 Wow, Yeah, I heard you say d v D car system. 2:18:17.640 --> 2:18:22.480 Nineteen ninety nine. Yeah, because when the story came out, 2:18:22.800 --> 2:18:25.480 we thought that the people were making it up, you 2:18:25.520 --> 2:18:28.320 know what I mean? And then you see it's repeat. 2:18:28.800 --> 2:18:29.600 Oh that's crazy. 2:18:29.720 --> 2:18:32.959 Yeah, Megan was Megan was the first, you know kind 2:18:32.959 --> 2:18:34.760 of happen when we come to the He came to 2:18:34.800 --> 2:18:35.320 my first game. 2:18:35.600 --> 2:18:37.200 Oh cool man, he's in the first game. Pick up. 2:18:37.600 --> 2:18:38.720 Now came in my last game. 2:18:40.879 --> 2:18:43.880 Game and I came to your last. N came to 2:18:44.040 --> 2:18:47.959 my very last game. I was saying, course side and. 2:18:48.000 --> 2:18:50.360 I appreciated it, but damn, I wish she was there 2:18:50.360 --> 2:18:52.840 on my prime. But yeah, but but now it came 2:18:52.879 --> 2:18:53.360 in my last game. 2:18:53.600 --> 2:18:55.120 Last game was with the Knicks, right with the Lakers. 2:18:55.240 --> 2:18:57.760 Oh the Lakers, shout out tons, Oh you went after 2:18:57.879 --> 2:18:59.200 you went to the Knicks after the Lakers. 2:18:59.240 --> 2:19:01.680 Now I went to the Knicks after after it down, 2:19:01.720 --> 2:19:02.720 went back to the Lakers retiring. 2:19:02.879 --> 2:19:06.560 Oh okay, okay, okay, that's dope. Yeah, that's dope. Now 2:19:07.240 --> 2:19:08.600 we got one thing we got to talk about is 2:19:08.720 --> 2:19:09.360 your foundation? 2:19:09.560 --> 2:19:09.720 Man? 2:19:10.200 --> 2:19:13.440 Yeah, yeah, for sure, let's let's end it with that 2:19:13.480 --> 2:19:17.280 because anyone's one question. Because it's also a room with 2:19:17.400 --> 2:19:22.360 that's been killing me for years. They said that Nike 2:19:22.440 --> 2:19:24.840 wouldn't give you Jordan's when you played against Jordan's. 2:19:24.879 --> 2:19:31.360 Yeah, that's talking about it. I love what does the 2:19:31.400 --> 2:19:34.440 thing with me and Nike? I'm a Nike guy, right, 2:19:35.240 --> 2:19:38.240 I might not be your narrative, uh huh or whatever, 2:19:39.040 --> 2:19:42.039 you know what, because there's rappers that got deals. You're 2:19:42.040 --> 2:19:44.080 telling me. I'm mean, you're telling me this rapper, this rapper. 2:19:44.200 --> 2:19:47.160 You're doing stuff with this rapper and not me. And 2:19:47.240 --> 2:19:51.280 I'm a ball player anyway. That's my own guy, Like 2:19:51.879 --> 2:19:54.280 you know, I'm that guy, and that's okay. 2:19:54.640 --> 2:19:57.959 So you wanted to wear Jordan's while you're playing against Jordan's, 2:19:58.120 --> 2:19:58.640 so like. 2:19:59.040 --> 2:20:03.040 Nike would get one player, Jordan's only one playing Korea, 2:20:03.240 --> 2:20:03.920 Jordan's deal. 2:20:04.160 --> 2:20:05.080 I love Jordan's. 2:20:05.520 --> 2:20:06.959 So Reggie Miller was that guy. 2:20:07.280 --> 2:20:09.640 So he could wear Jordan's against Jordan against Jordan. 2:20:09.720 --> 2:20:10.560 But we couldn't. 2:20:11.959 --> 2:20:18.480 Market Anna niked Nikes mark, so I love honestly. 2:20:18.480 --> 2:20:20.520 I went, I got home, I went, we got a 2:20:20.600 --> 2:20:24.200 neck hand, yeah right now, But I were a nice 2:20:25.120 --> 2:20:29.760 they can control that anyway. So what I did was 2:20:30.000 --> 2:20:32.560 I drove from Indiana after shoot a round. I drove 2:20:32.640 --> 2:20:35.720 four hours, three hours to Chicago, whatever the time was, 2:20:36.560 --> 2:20:41.039 went to the Nike store outside sixteens, drove back to Indiana, showed. 2:20:40.879 --> 2:20:43.320 Up late to the game in Indiana. 2:20:44.040 --> 2:20:45.800 But I was gonna play with some mics against Mike, 2:20:45.840 --> 2:20:51.200 I'm not I'm not not playing like if I'm playing 2:20:51.200 --> 2:20:53.439 against Penny Hardaway, I need those pennies. 2:20:55.120 --> 2:20:55.400 You heard. 2:20:55.440 --> 2:20:57.920 I mean like, I'm not I know, disrespect. Anyway, that 2:20:58.040 --> 2:21:00.000 was that problem. And then I used to order sound 2:21:00.200 --> 2:21:02.879 sixteen Jordan's. Then when they told the storm. 2:21:02.720 --> 2:21:06.760 Stopped giving me his shoes in Chicago, I would call like, hey, 2:21:06.800 --> 2:21:11.400 this is Kenny. Yeah. Differently at sixteen, I will. 2:21:11.360 --> 2:21:15.199 Order sixteen and they't stop laying my phone order sixteen. 2:21:20.280 --> 2:21:22.520 That's sixteen was probably like one one. 2:21:23.840 --> 2:21:25.440 I mean, Jordan got to think about it. Jordan was 2:21:25.560 --> 2:21:27.480 he got a Defensive Player of the Year about not 2:21:27.560 --> 2:21:29.600 want to wear Michael Jordan's you know what I mean. 2:21:29.640 --> 2:21:33.000 So these guys just like you know, hip hop, I'm 2:21:33.000 --> 2:21:34.120 the best defensive player in the league. 2:21:34.200 --> 2:21:38.120 Need I need to Jordan's against Jordans, Oh my god, 2:21:38.240 --> 2:21:41.920 that's just so much funny. I got mad notes. 2:21:42.800 --> 2:21:44.039 Hell yeah, keep going. 2:21:45.400 --> 2:21:45.560 There. 2:21:45.879 --> 2:21:47.800 But it was great to play against Jordan's and Jordan's 2:21:47.840 --> 2:21:50.480 and man, we got talking about all the sportstuff on 2:21:50.480 --> 2:21:52.600 your podcast. Let's go out, Yeah we gotta do it, yeah, 2:21:52.760 --> 2:21:54.360 Dak sport, Yeah, sports and sports. 2:21:54.680 --> 2:21:56.879 You know what all those one question real quick being 2:21:56.920 --> 2:21:59.160 that you said that you worked as a regular job. 2:21:59.360 --> 2:22:02.080 What do you think about Vin Baker's latest statement. Have 2:22:02.120 --> 2:22:04.760 you heard anything about bigger with him saying that he's 2:22:05.000 --> 2:22:05.400 happy and. 2:22:05.440 --> 2:22:07.640 Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, but I saw that. Now 2:22:07.720 --> 2:22:10.520 that's great, man. I think like Vin Baker's at Starbucks. 2:22:10.560 --> 2:22:14.560 I didn't know that, and oh, yeah, that's even better 2:22:14.600 --> 2:22:15.720 if you you gotta do it. 2:22:16.520 --> 2:22:20.200 It's always the cliche Kevin Jackson too, my bad right, right. 2:22:23.200 --> 2:22:26.879 Of losing money per se or not making my guy, 2:22:27.000 --> 2:22:29.960 being an entrepreneur and being successful is big. 2:22:30.520 --> 2:22:32.640 No, yeah, because as athlete, people think that you make 2:22:32.720 --> 2:22:36.039 it and then something happening right now financial. 2:22:36.120 --> 2:22:38.400 Talking sports is high. It's dope to see. 2:22:38.840 --> 2:22:40.760 It's so dope to see, man, because I think it's 2:22:40.760 --> 2:22:43.440 really entertaining and I think it's really like we tell 2:22:43.680 --> 2:22:46.080 our mistakes to get back to the youth, and that's 2:22:46.080 --> 2:22:48.480 a that's better than the story of saying something to 2:22:49.400 --> 2:22:50.640 encourage them to do something. 2:22:50.800 --> 2:22:53.480 Silly, you know what I mean, or to know better. 2:22:53.680 --> 2:22:55.320 So then but Vin Baker is like, yeah, he worked 2:22:55.320 --> 2:22:58.400 at Stobbucks, that's okay, and it came up and now 2:22:58.440 --> 2:23:00.760 he's a coach, and like, if you're an athlete. At 2:23:00.800 --> 2:23:03.080 some point, you're gonna have to retire. So now, yeah, 2:23:03.120 --> 2:23:05.440 you gotta you have to do something different, which is 2:23:05.480 --> 2:23:08.480 why I'm lucky enough. He said what I said, Like 2:23:08.600 --> 2:23:10.600 you said, no matter what it is, you have to 2:23:10.680 --> 2:23:12.600 do something different. I had to do something different at 2:23:12.640 --> 2:23:15.280 some point in time. I'm lucky enough to be around NAS, 2:23:15.360 --> 2:23:18.960 like to see NASCAR from rapping two you get of 2:23:19.040 --> 2:23:21.320 the men. Yeah, tech, Yep. I'm lucky enough to, you know, 2:23:21.440 --> 2:23:23.440 kind of follow that career. Lucky enough to follow this career. 2:23:23.920 --> 2:23:26.480 And we have those people that can inspire you, you 2:23:26.560 --> 2:23:26.959 know what I mean. 2:23:27.400 --> 2:23:30.439 So I like the Foundation. 2:23:30.440 --> 2:23:33.920 Foundation ar Test Education Foundation. I launched it in two 2:23:33.920 --> 2:23:36.560 thousand and I launched it in two thousand and seven 2:23:36.879 --> 2:23:41.040 because I got paid for to go to Lasal Academy 2:23:41.800 --> 2:23:45.640 by mister Ernest Lutch. And he paid he Chris Mullen 2:23:45.920 --> 2:23:49.320 Mark Jackson ran through that program. Everybody go through that 2:23:49.360 --> 2:23:53.560 program where I saw our church. So he paid for 2:23:53.600 --> 2:23:55.720 me to go to Lasal Academy. When I made it 2:23:55.760 --> 2:23:57.920 to the MB, I started to give ten scholarships a year. 2:23:58.800 --> 2:24:03.039 I actually gave and left a scholarship to Maceell Academy. 2:24:03.959 --> 2:24:07.120 If I would give ten scholarships a year to go 2:24:08.000 --> 2:24:12.440 to school. I also gave college scholarships ethology to West 2:24:12.520 --> 2:24:16.039 Virginia from Queens Bridgton. And then in two thousand and seven, 2:24:16.280 --> 2:24:17.840 I mean it was becoming it was just cash out 2:24:17.840 --> 2:24:20.920 of pocket. It was like, you know, because these people 2:24:20.959 --> 2:24:23.280 helped me, so I want to help. So then I 2:24:23.360 --> 2:24:24.960 started to turn it into a five to one C 2:24:25.080 --> 2:24:27.320 three in two thousand and seven because I didn't know 2:24:27.320 --> 2:24:28.840 what a five to one C three was coming out 2:24:28.840 --> 2:24:31.440 of I don't know what a five one C three is. 2:24:31.800 --> 2:24:33.600 But then when I said, yeah, you can actually give 2:24:33.640 --> 2:24:36.120 scholarships and write it off, so I started to do 2:24:36.200 --> 2:24:39.760 that and it's legal. So that was called Excel University. 2:24:39.760 --> 2:24:41.720 And then why would I name it Excel Because if 2:24:41.760 --> 2:24:43.800 I'm giving scholarships the kids to go to school, I'm 2:24:43.800 --> 2:24:46.760 based in college. So I just named it an Excel University. 2:24:47.000 --> 2:24:48.920 But we didn't have a thesis, a theme, a mission. 2:24:49.080 --> 2:24:50.720 I don't know what a mission, thesis them is at 2:24:50.760 --> 2:24:53.840 that time. But anyway, I changed it to Artest University 2:24:53.879 --> 2:24:57.000 for branding. So now it's Artest University. I'm sorry, it's 2:24:57.120 --> 2:24:59.200 Artest University right now, but the website is art Test 2:24:59.400 --> 2:25:03.480 Education Foundation dot org. And it's really for a group 2:25:03.520 --> 2:25:07.039 of eighteen and up where we're teaching curriculum and literacy 2:25:07.120 --> 2:25:08.680 and health, sports and finance. 2:25:09.320 --> 2:25:09.480 You know. 2:25:09.680 --> 2:25:12.840 So initially we were trying to become a university. But 2:25:12.959 --> 2:25:15.280 you gotta crawl, walk in then run. 2:25:15.520 --> 2:25:16.600 Yes, you know what I mean. 2:25:17.320 --> 2:25:21.200 So we're crawling right now our Test Education Foundation, and 2:25:21.320 --> 2:25:25.960 right now we have curriculums that you can explore if 2:25:26.000 --> 2:25:28.360 you want to be in finance, health or sports. 2:25:28.800 --> 2:25:32.959 So so students are graduating, we're just launching. 2:25:33.680 --> 2:25:37.000 So my son jeron our tests as a developer and 2:25:37.040 --> 2:25:40.320 he went to us use USC in a cinematic art school. 2:25:40.360 --> 2:25:40.600 Is great. 2:25:40.640 --> 2:25:44.240 He's actual developer. So we're building out the product right now. 2:25:45.000 --> 2:25:47.800 You know, we have a product is artest Education Foundation 2:25:47.879 --> 2:25:50.879 dot org. We also have Icarus dot org is one 2:25:50.920 --> 2:25:55.560 of our other education products Easycarelink dot com. That's our 2:25:55.680 --> 2:26:01.000 nursing staffing company. So what we're trying to do is 2:26:01.120 --> 2:26:05.480 give people like things, read it and know you want 2:26:05.480 --> 2:26:07.040 to give it back to you and how do you 2:26:08.120 --> 2:26:11.200 funnel people into guidance. So he said, you know what 2:26:11.320 --> 2:26:14.280 for us is Artists Education Foundation dot org and I 2:26:14.320 --> 2:26:18.039 can get more into it. Yeah, but I just I just. 2:26:18.080 --> 2:26:22.520 Got this information. Man as well. You were Raheem played 2:26:22.520 --> 2:26:24.199 against Kobe Bryant in propertence. 2:26:24.320 --> 2:26:26.560 Oh man, yeah crazy ye. 2:26:31.840 --> 2:26:32.520 So check it out. 2:26:33.520 --> 2:26:35.840 So yeah it's great. Yeah, you can move any which way, 2:26:35.920 --> 2:26:37.880 so check it So can I just walk quick? 2:26:38.200 --> 2:26:39.280 Please? I'm bad. 2:26:39.320 --> 2:26:46.440 I went come on, got any issues like, come on, 2:26:46.560 --> 2:26:48.800 don't not make me a head coach. 2:26:53.040 --> 2:26:55.080 But so, so this is back in the days, this 2:26:55.160 --> 2:26:58.359 is before Kobe hit the league. You and Raheem played against. 2:26:58.120 --> 2:26:59.960 Him, and yeah, one game in the tournament. 2:27:00.680 --> 2:27:03.920 So we was in Providence coach Kevin Jackson, Vin Jackson 2:27:04.120 --> 2:27:04.680 Smith was there? 2:27:05.400 --> 2:27:06.360 Was you playing for am High? 2:27:06.400 --> 2:27:07.240 I played for am High? 2:27:08.879 --> 2:27:10.960 Was this was this High? 2:27:11.040 --> 2:27:13.320 Okay, let's go, Let's go all right? 2:27:13.400 --> 2:27:15.880 So I worked out with Vince for the first time 2:27:16.520 --> 2:27:19.440 after Gacho Jim. I got kept from Amy High. 2:27:19.840 --> 2:27:20.040 Wow. 2:27:20.160 --> 2:27:22.280 Eric Chafford who played in high school, we got championship together, 2:27:22.400 --> 2:27:24.720 Mike Chafford brother. So I lost the spot to Erica, 2:27:25.160 --> 2:27:25.920 but I went to every game. 2:27:25.959 --> 2:27:26.400 I was heated. 2:27:26.440 --> 2:27:28.320 I went to every game. I wanted to show him 2:27:28.680 --> 2:27:32.000 I'm dedicated. So I went to every game Am High 2:27:32.040 --> 2:27:34.400 and I didn't play. Raheem was on that team, right, 2:27:34.520 --> 2:27:37.160 right right, and then I made I made the team 2:27:37.200 --> 2:27:38.880 the next year because I was I should have been playing, 2:27:39.000 --> 2:27:40.880 but I showed him why then I made the team. 2:27:40.920 --> 2:27:42.920 He put me on the singing team. Here right here, 2:27:43.400 --> 2:27:47.040 he put me on the sing team. I'm I'm sixty five, 2:27:47.120 --> 2:27:52.720 but I saw coss I who have to date that? 2:28:00.959 --> 2:28:05.760 So I'm six three and a half. Okay, okay at 2:28:05.800 --> 2:28:10.400 that point. And then it's a great story. So Sham 2:28:10.480 --> 2:28:13.360 guards on the team. That's Shahan Holloween, Shan Hollowey head 2:28:13.400 --> 2:28:15.160 Coachy Hall. So we all have a team with Dwayne 2:28:15.240 --> 2:28:19.320 Edwich who and then and Sham and Ryhan. I'm coming 2:28:19.360 --> 2:28:21.400 off the bench. I'm at the end. You also have 2:28:21.520 --> 2:28:25.920 shar Anyways, other players something. Kobe is killing. I don't 2:28:25.920 --> 2:28:30.080 get into the fourth he has thirty two Jackson run. 2:28:30.160 --> 2:28:34.320 I'm run at the time. Kevin's a personality, Yes he is. Yes, 2:28:34.480 --> 2:28:35.280 you got to have him in the show. 2:28:35.360 --> 2:28:36.280 Yes, yes, of course, off. 2:28:36.200 --> 2:28:41.720 Will so so ket Jackson get in the game and 2:28:41.800 --> 2:28:44.920 put me on Kobe. So then Kobe had eight points 2:28:44.959 --> 2:28:46.880 on me, said he did in with forty and we 2:28:46.959 --> 2:28:48.960 talked about this, so I can talk about this. But 2:28:49.080 --> 2:28:52.280 he had eight points on me, right a right maybe six. 2:28:52.480 --> 2:28:58.400 He said he was on that team from off right. 2:28:58.440 --> 2:29:00.400 He was starting Raheem was not going to Kobe. He 2:29:00.560 --> 2:29:03.039 was not the best offender, but he was okay, good readback. 2:29:03.680 --> 2:29:05.800 And I think Shan was gone Dwayne Dwayne Edwards was 2:29:05.840 --> 2:29:06.440 going Kobe. 2:29:06.680 --> 2:29:07.720 I think Shan was gone. 2:29:07.840 --> 2:29:10.320 I got shared he was going Kobe. But then they 2:29:10.400 --> 2:29:11.840 you know, but then they needed me on Kobe. 2:29:12.320 --> 2:29:13.360 But right, he was on that team. 2:29:13.520 --> 2:29:15.959 And fast forward and could you got to get flowers, 2:29:16.040 --> 2:29:16.800 Trahan Johnson. 2:29:16.800 --> 2:29:18.160 I always do it. I've been doing. 2:29:19.440 --> 2:29:21.160 I think you a flowers to Rhem form day one. 2:29:21.200 --> 2:29:22.400 I'm a day one righteem guy? 2:29:24.280 --> 2:29:26.480 Did he know that? But yeah, he was on that game. 2:29:26.560 --> 2:29:30.760 He played very well at least Rightian Johnson, he's talking 2:29:30.760 --> 2:29:31.600 about twenty Yeah. 2:29:35.200 --> 2:29:42.880 Yeah. Let me just like, because Kobe is a Philadelphia 2:29:42.920 --> 2:29:46.440 player at the time, he's Philly's Philly Yeah, okay, so 2:29:46.640 --> 2:29:48.000 is he the man in Philly. 2:29:48.800 --> 2:29:51.600 Because he went to Italy with his dad. I heard 2:29:51.720 --> 2:29:53.760 on the stories. He would have to tell me his age. 2:29:53.760 --> 2:29:54.800 I can tell you where I was at if you 2:29:54.840 --> 2:29:57.440 something how old he was. But he was away for 2:29:57.480 --> 2:29:59.680 a long time because his dad was overseas. Wow, his 2:29:59.800 --> 2:30:02.480 dad from Mury Bertram, Philadelphia. My my dad went to 2:30:02.560 --> 2:30:03.120 Mary Bertram. 2:30:03.600 --> 2:30:05.119 Wow, that's crazy. 2:30:05.360 --> 2:30:07.520 My dad went to Mary Bertram. My dad from Philly. 2:30:07.840 --> 2:30:10.760 Oh, I didn't know Phill the Bridge. 2:30:11.400 --> 2:30:13.040 I'm from the Bridge. My dad from Philly. 2:30:15.160 --> 2:30:17.800 And then we covered this and I think said, did 2:30:17.840 --> 2:30:20.039 you send mad kids from Queensbridge to Catholic School? 2:30:20.160 --> 2:30:22.440 Yeah, we sent a lot of kids. We had We 2:30:22.520 --> 2:30:25.680 had a great program. Jose was running the actual Stummer League, 2:30:25.680 --> 2:30:27.680 so we had a triple threat. And even Lance Stevenson 2:30:27.720 --> 2:30:29.520 played in that league. People come to me and say 2:30:29.560 --> 2:30:31.560 they played in the league. I don't even know even 2:30:31.680 --> 2:30:36.040 like I think my god Green from the Spurs wown. Yeah, 2:30:36.080 --> 2:30:38.320 my god, Danny Green. Danny Green, he said he played 2:30:38.360 --> 2:30:38.920 triple crests. 2:30:38.920 --> 2:30:40.000 So we have dad Wow. 2:30:40.120 --> 2:30:42.160 And then we have and then so from that, that 2:30:42.320 --> 2:30:44.400 was a spin off for all the scholarships we was given. 2:30:44.680 --> 2:30:46.280 So we gave a lot of people scholarships. 2:30:47.959 --> 2:30:48.360 It was great. 2:30:48.400 --> 2:30:49.040 It was feeling. 2:30:49.800 --> 2:30:52.760 Yeah, man with the girls basketball. 2:30:52.840 --> 2:30:54.760 Now I'm doing girls basketball. I'm trying to get. 2:30:54.600 --> 2:30:57.000 Into the league before you go slim that. 2:30:58.720 --> 2:30:59.920 And I know you you don't. 2:31:00.080 --> 2:31:00.960 You definitely don't have to. 2:31:01.040 --> 2:31:03.600 And I know you coached girls basketball you would never 2:31:04.120 --> 2:31:06.880 do one season with the Big Three, if you know. 2:31:08.000 --> 2:31:10.800 I did the Big Three, but my money wasn't good. 2:31:11.320 --> 2:31:12.800 Okay, wow, But I. 2:31:12.840 --> 2:31:16.480 Wanted to invest. I didn't want the contract. Whatever you're 2:31:16.520 --> 2:31:17.480 gona pay me and put it in. I want to 2:31:17.520 --> 2:31:19.720 want to to next to five exits. And then they 2:31:19.800 --> 2:31:21.680 turned it down. So I was gonna But did they 2:31:21.720 --> 2:31:22.800 my guys, I can see why. 2:31:23.280 --> 2:31:23.640 So I did. 2:31:23.800 --> 2:31:25.680 I played. I played in the Big Three, but I 2:31:25.720 --> 2:31:27.800 ain't playing a while. I would like for them to 2:31:27.840 --> 2:31:31.400 take my investment at that same valuation. What am I 2:31:31.959 --> 2:31:33.320 drug deal athletes? 2:31:36.280 --> 2:31:36.440 You know? 2:31:36.560 --> 2:31:39.360 And now if you're selling for that X now keep 2:31:39.400 --> 2:31:41.440 in mind, only really care about it, honestly. But it's 2:31:41.480 --> 2:31:45.000 a great thing to discuss because financial literacy is hot 2:31:45.120 --> 2:31:48.840 right now, you know what I mean, it's hot right 2:31:48.920 --> 2:31:51.560 now about a year one, a long time ago. 2:31:51.760 --> 2:31:52.400 That's what I'm saying. 2:31:52.440 --> 2:31:56.320 Even even all the smoke. Shout out to my god, 2:31:56.400 --> 2:31:57.680 got Jacky playing the game and together. 2:31:57.879 --> 2:31:58.080 Yeah. 2:31:58.440 --> 2:32:00.640 So I did choet on the is in the first 2:32:00.680 --> 2:32:05.720 ever launch of show Sports. So I was supposed to 2:32:05.760 --> 2:32:09.280 do the podcast about turn it down because principle, you 2:32:09.320 --> 2:32:10.960 know what I mean, it's like everybody trying to make money. 2:32:11.280 --> 2:32:13.640 You want to ask me, are you in this for 2:32:13.760 --> 2:32:15.800 the money? I mean I think so, yeah. 2:32:17.560 --> 2:32:19.360 I mean, I mean you can have a value. 2:32:20.120 --> 2:32:20.480 Why not? 2:32:20.840 --> 2:32:25.240 But of course yeah, everybody's so. Now, yeah, a return 2:32:25.320 --> 2:32:29.240 on your ROI R return from your from your credit 2:32:29.360 --> 2:32:32.320 or debt financier you're getting it from. So everybody's trying 2:32:32.360 --> 2:32:35.520 to create r o I. So now I pass on 2:32:35.600 --> 2:32:38.600 opportunities and I'm happy to see my guys win. I 2:32:38.720 --> 2:32:41.120 talked to Stack for an hour on the phone about publication. 2:32:41.200 --> 2:32:42.400 This is the publication business. 2:32:43.360 --> 2:32:48.000 This is media, right, So my guy, I think I 2:32:48.040 --> 2:32:51.040 would have negotiate terms like this Here I say it, 2:32:52.000 --> 2:32:53.840 and I'm happy to winning. But as the principle, I 2:32:53.879 --> 2:32:55.440 don't care if you're gonna tell me, well, I'll give 2:32:55.520 --> 2:32:57.120 somebody else to deal if you don't want to get 2:32:57.120 --> 2:33:00.440 me the deal, because I'm reading all the red lines right. 2:33:01.480 --> 2:33:03.880 But I'm like, okay, give it to my guys. We 2:33:04.000 --> 2:33:08.080 all win. But if that's saying situation wasn't reverse when 2:33:08.080 --> 2:33:10.120 I heard it, I'm not. I can't work with you, 2:33:10.200 --> 2:33:12.720 not kind. I don't like you because you don't respect. 2:33:13.000 --> 2:33:15.520 You're looking at a narrative. We don't got to always 2:33:15.600 --> 2:33:18.920 entertain So anyway, from that perspective, like you know, it's 2:33:19.000 --> 2:33:21.560 things like that that we could talk about, and it's 2:33:21.640 --> 2:33:24.640 not to really attack the other side. It's more to 2:33:24.720 --> 2:33:26.840 give it a different respective people not hearing these stories, 2:33:28.280 --> 2:33:31.560 you know. So anyway, was. 2:33:31.640 --> 2:33:37.800 Matt Harper one of your toughest players besides Lebron? Matt Harping? 2:33:37.840 --> 2:33:40.000 I like Matt Harping, and thanks for bringing this up, man, 2:33:40.000 --> 2:33:40.600 I appreciate it. 2:33:41.040 --> 2:33:44.240 This is awesome. So I threw it out there. It 2:33:44.400 --> 2:33:47.080 was like, who is who you miss playing the most? 2:33:47.080 --> 2:33:49.800 Who's your toughest opponent? I said, Matt Harping. But that 2:33:49.959 --> 2:33:53.720 didn't catch momentum media from media perspective, so I go 2:33:53.800 --> 2:33:56.440 back to like Lebron. But the reason I say Matt 2:33:56.480 --> 2:33:58.920 Harpring is because when me and Matt Harping used to 2:33:58.959 --> 2:34:01.760 play with football, it was we never we never fought, 2:34:02.120 --> 2:34:05.040 we never threw punctures, but it was great. It was 2:34:05.120 --> 2:34:07.720 physical and I missed Mad And when he retired, I 2:34:07.840 --> 2:34:10.680 was I was retiring. I'm like, damn, we're playing in Utah. 2:34:11.160 --> 2:34:13.520 I can't wait to play against Mad. It's do on 2:34:13.600 --> 2:34:19.879 the sideline, I said, man, what you're doing retired? That's 2:34:19.959 --> 2:34:22.560 my God, they're trying to break my shoulder one time, 2:34:22.760 --> 2:34:24.640 like he almost broke my shoulder, and I was like, 2:34:24.680 --> 2:34:25.760 that's a good one. That's a good one. 2:34:26.200 --> 2:34:27.400 That's a good because he was. 2:34:27.440 --> 2:34:30.080 Boxing me, I caught my shoulder paulted and poulted out 2:34:30.120 --> 2:34:30.600 of socket. 2:34:31.160 --> 2:34:33.280 But I was like, oh, I was like, you know 2:34:33.320 --> 2:34:33.640 what I mean. 2:34:34.120 --> 2:34:39.080 I was like, yo, that's my guy anyway, But yeah, 2:34:39.120 --> 2:34:40.520 I missed mad Wow. 2:34:41.320 --> 2:34:43.400 Yeah, the competition thing no more. 2:34:43.480 --> 2:34:48.240 When from that perspective, it's not only when and attack 2:34:48.600 --> 2:34:50.119 is compete at the highest level. 2:34:50.320 --> 2:34:52.879 He would do anything. He would do anything then. Yeah, 2:34:52.959 --> 2:34:55.720 but we really only had we had a relationship like that. 2:34:56.040 --> 2:34:58.720 I had a relationship like that other places. 2:35:00.280 --> 2:35:01.520 Yeah, besides the. 2:35:03.879 --> 2:35:07.600 Big Three? Do you do you actually miss the game? Period? Oh? 2:35:07.800 --> 2:35:08.480 Big three is great. 2:35:08.480 --> 2:35:11.280 I love the Big Three. I actually tried to raise 2:35:11.640 --> 2:35:12.720 with the NBA. 2:35:13.000 --> 2:35:14.119 Do you miss being an NBA? 2:35:14.640 --> 2:35:16.920 NBA sorry NBA? Yeah, Oh I love the NBA. When 2:35:16.920 --> 2:35:20.720 I first retired, it was hard, so I told my 2:35:20.720 --> 2:35:22.320 whole team, I don't want to be around the NBA. 2:35:23.120 --> 2:35:24.760 You know why, because I had a long career. My 2:35:24.800 --> 2:35:26.720 career was different from people. Also for other people, I 2:35:26.760 --> 2:35:32.040 don't care what they say so I did eighteen, So 2:35:32.080 --> 2:35:33.920 I took a long break, but I love that I 2:35:33.959 --> 2:35:37.200 missed the NBA. You see, when you first retire, you 2:35:37.240 --> 2:35:39.200 want to play. When you first retire, you see a 2:35:39.240 --> 2:35:41.960 player you want to play. But I think when you 2:35:42.000 --> 2:35:43.680 get older, you become a fan. Now I'm a big fan, 2:35:43.879 --> 2:35:45.720 like and it's great just to be a part of 2:35:45.720 --> 2:35:47.720 the NBA. We actually have a sports fund it's called 2:35:47.800 --> 2:35:51.800 a Sports Group, wow, and we're looking to invest in 2:35:51.840 --> 2:35:55.160 sports teams, uh, in sports real estate. And it's great 2:35:55.200 --> 2:35:57.040 to have a you know, to be able to still 2:35:57.080 --> 2:35:59.240 try to win and to be able to compete for 2:35:59.320 --> 2:36:00.000 a championship. 2:36:00.480 --> 2:36:00.920 That's why we. 2:36:00.959 --> 2:36:04.119 Started this, all right, we tried eighteen times, we got one, 2:36:04.760 --> 2:36:07.280 all right, cool, But now you can win more. You 2:36:07.320 --> 2:36:10.280 can still win more NBA championships. So anyway, we have 2:36:10.360 --> 2:36:14.119 a sports group. So anyway, I'm still involved with the NBA. 2:36:14.120 --> 2:36:16.600 I do a lot of community service. So I probably 2:36:16.640 --> 2:36:19.000 can't play like I would like to, but I can 2:36:19.040 --> 2:36:20.440 still I can contribute. 2:36:20.879 --> 2:36:22.920 Right, do you think you can actually still play. 2:36:23.320 --> 2:36:25.240 If I had I'm forty six, so if I had 2:36:25.320 --> 2:36:28.080 three years to train, yes, but I would need a 2:36:28.120 --> 2:36:31.240 contract because I'm not I can't train. I'm not training. 2:36:31.320 --> 2:36:33.480 Just the word guests. They would have to like pay 2:36:33.520 --> 2:36:36.440 me like now and then I can train for three years. 2:36:37.360 --> 2:36:39.880 I'm not ready. Now you'll be available eighty two games 2:36:39.920 --> 2:36:40.560 when you're fifty. 2:36:41.320 --> 2:36:44.840 Nobody's available any two games. I did play fifty, I 2:36:44.879 --> 2:36:46.880 could play maybe forty five games in the games. 2:36:49.200 --> 2:36:54.200 I wouldn't need to trade older than Lebrond in the 2:36:54.280 --> 2:36:56.039 NBA I would need. I wouldn't need two three years 2:36:56.080 --> 2:37:02.119 to get ready for you. Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, 2:37:02.120 --> 2:37:04.560 I wouln't need to three years didn't be competitive and 2:37:04.680 --> 2:37:07.240 be competing. I wouldn't need to three years NBA right now, 2:37:07.600 --> 2:37:07.920 I mean. 2:37:09.640 --> 2:37:10.840 Yeah, three years, I can do it. 2:37:16.720 --> 2:37:17.720 I can't do it right now. 2:37:17.959 --> 2:37:24.080 No, No, let's just say G League the fundamentals coming in. 2:37:24.280 --> 2:37:27.879 How do you feel about you participating in er cheers 2:37:29.080 --> 2:37:31.480 participating in the league. Do you think G League is 2:37:31.520 --> 2:37:33.600 important the way it was back then? 2:37:34.080 --> 2:37:34.960 Where did you know? 2:37:35.640 --> 2:37:38.480 Well, you know, I think is ready. I like it 2:37:38.560 --> 2:37:40.400 because it's a good model. Also, you can invest in 2:37:40.440 --> 2:37:42.960 these teams. A lot of people don't know, like if 2:37:42.959 --> 2:37:44.119 you would invest invest. 2:37:43.879 --> 2:37:46.720 In the league team jail then operated by the by 2:37:46.760 --> 2:37:48.000 the big Dogs, by the NBA. 2:37:48.120 --> 2:37:50.080 They are, but they're still taking investments to a vehicle 2:37:50.680 --> 2:37:53.680 and now they now they are growing, and I love 2:37:53.720 --> 2:37:54.280 the G League. 2:37:54.280 --> 2:37:57.080 I think I can't let you finish answer that. Sorry, 2:37:58.440 --> 2:38:01.600 Is that aside parallel staying with the w n b A. 2:38:01.879 --> 2:38:03.880 Do they have the same as far you can invest 2:38:04.080 --> 2:38:06.040 w No, But I'm talking about like the G League 2:38:06.160 --> 2:38:06.800 and investing in. 2:38:06.840 --> 2:38:08.600 The w n b A don't have a G league. 2:38:08.920 --> 2:38:10.440 Oh yeah, w n b A don't have a G 2:38:10.720 --> 2:38:12.880 I coached women's sports for seven years, so I'm also 2:38:12.959 --> 2:38:14.600 I'm a proponent. I kind of see what's going on. 2:38:15.120 --> 2:38:17.920 But yeah, women's sports is about to blow up. Yes, 2:38:18.040 --> 2:38:20.880 you know, I like women fastball. You missed the first 2:38:21.080 --> 2:38:23.360 you missed the first round, so that round is done. 2:38:23.400 --> 2:38:26.040 But women's fast call man just throwing the ball overhead. 2:38:26.560 --> 2:38:27.640 We always wanted to see that. 2:38:28.480 --> 2:38:31.640 They also got a volleyball professional too. 2:38:31.640 --> 2:38:33.400 Volleyball and they're making money too. 2:38:33.520 --> 2:38:35.360 But also like going back to the. 2:38:36.920 --> 2:38:37.680 The Big three. 2:38:38.040 --> 2:38:42.360 Yes, the same day Drink Champs was on Bloomberg, Yeah, 2:38:42.560 --> 2:38:43.560 ice Cube was on. 2:38:44.240 --> 2:38:45.160 They got an I p O. 2:38:46.920 --> 2:38:47.080 Yeah. 2:38:47.320 --> 2:38:55.680 Yeah, I'm saying so it came back around. No, that's 2:38:55.720 --> 2:38:58.080 how I tell my guys patient patient capital? 2:38:58.480 --> 2:39:00.200 How many ten said he wanted to be what he 2:39:00.400 --> 2:39:01.240 is paid? 2:39:01.360 --> 2:39:02.640 Yeah, I don't want to come mind, that's the first 2:39:02.680 --> 2:39:05.640 conversation be able to do it. I got a little excited. Sorry, 2:39:05.640 --> 2:39:10.320 I Q he's speaking the right lad. It's important, my guy, 2:39:11.160 --> 2:39:12.920 you founded a group and your investors. 2:39:12.920 --> 2:39:13.480 I love you all. 2:39:13.760 --> 2:39:15.440 I know a lot of the investors. But this is 2:39:15.680 --> 2:39:18.760 an emotion at that point in time, you know. 2:39:18.959 --> 2:39:22.160 And it's like, accept the capital because we started that 2:39:22.320 --> 2:39:22.880 league Iverson. 2:39:22.920 --> 2:39:26.240 I thought Iverson owned some of it, but but we 2:39:26.320 --> 2:39:29.440 started that league. So when you don't accept people's money, 2:39:29.840 --> 2:39:32.840 it's like who am I? Who am I? 2:39:35.240 --> 2:39:35.400 You know? 2:39:35.680 --> 2:39:36.040 Who am I? 2:39:36.160 --> 2:39:38.520 You don't accept my money? So anyway from that perspective, 2:39:38.560 --> 2:39:41.000 and that's an opportunity for somebody to grow wealth in 2:39:41.080 --> 2:39:43.400 the future, you know. So now you're not thinking about 2:39:43.440 --> 2:39:45.000 fast money. We think about long money, and you go 2:39:45.120 --> 2:39:45.520 against that. 2:39:46.240 --> 2:39:49.000 So this is just a lesson playing Devil's advocate as 2:39:49.000 --> 2:39:50.880 a businessman. What if IQ is like, what if it 2:39:50.959 --> 2:39:52.560 don't work? We don't want to waste him money. 2:39:53.240 --> 2:39:58.400 Seventy five thousand a lot of money. Sorry, it's a 2:39:58.440 --> 2:40:02.600 lot of money, but it's an investment. It's a venture capital, 2:40:02.680 --> 2:40:06.000 early stage, family and friends investment, like you know what 2:40:06.040 --> 2:40:10.080 I mean. So anyway, from that perspective, now, I hope, 2:40:10.240 --> 2:40:13.520 I hope the Big Three put me in that valuation. 2:40:13.680 --> 2:40:17.640 I deserve it because I played yes right, and then let's. 2:40:17.480 --> 2:40:19.240 Make it a public company, go billion, making a billion 2:40:19.280 --> 2:40:19.720 dollar company. 2:40:19.920 --> 2:40:22.520 It has the potential. But I think they got to 2:40:22.560 --> 2:40:24.360 work with I think the NBA would have to work. 2:40:24.400 --> 2:40:25.640 I think they should work together somehow. 2:40:25.720 --> 2:40:27.040 But I believe they think they will. 2:40:27.320 --> 2:40:27.920 I think they will. 2:40:27.959 --> 2:40:30.880 I mean like it, but I think I guarantee you 2:40:30.959 --> 2:40:33.280 it works. You know why, I'm ice Cube and then 2:40:33.879 --> 2:40:34.880 former players. 2:40:35.320 --> 2:40:39.640 Why wouldn't black people want to build something to the 2:40:39.920 --> 2:40:42.360 highest level billion dollar couple ice. 2:40:42.360 --> 2:40:44.519 You're trying to invest, You're trying to invest. 2:40:45.080 --> 2:40:48.520 It was ice Cube one, but the X players, Yeah. 2:40:48.360 --> 2:40:51.200 We're gonna support you, by God, like we're investing in this. 2:40:51.720 --> 2:40:54.880 There's a win win win win, and we started it. 2:40:55.680 --> 2:40:58.280 You got the Big Three because us because of an era. 2:40:58.480 --> 2:41:01.960 Wait wait, that's a dangerous statement, bro as guys, because 2:41:02.160 --> 2:41:05.720 the wait you said we started. 2:41:05.879 --> 2:41:07.640 You said the Big Three started because of us. 2:41:08.040 --> 2:41:10.760 No, let me started ice cubes starting because exactly no, No, 2:41:10.879 --> 2:41:14.240 I will start ice cube. Let me not minimize his. 2:41:15.160 --> 2:41:17.720 But what I'm also saying is just accept my seventy 2:41:17.720 --> 2:41:21.640 five grand, just seventy five grand because you go to 2:41:21.680 --> 2:41:23.680 your next stay and we want to teach people patient 2:41:24.280 --> 2:41:25.640 in our neighborhood. It's fast. 2:41:26.000 --> 2:41:27.480 So if it's truly you're. 2:41:27.360 --> 2:41:30.480 Thinking fast and you want to teach patient money, we're 2:41:30.480 --> 2:41:33.680 about that quick ten today, right, So that's the case. 2:41:33.879 --> 2:41:36.520 That's what we're saying. You know what I mean. And 2:41:36.680 --> 2:41:40.080 that's where I think talking about this topic is okay. 2:41:40.160 --> 2:41:41.560 And weren't talking about it. 2:41:42.040 --> 2:41:44.800 I'll call and then Ice Keep was upset. I just say, sorry, man, 2:41:44.840 --> 2:41:47.199 I'm on drink champs. 2:41:49.320 --> 2:41:51.920 But it makes But yeah, I would love that deal. 2:41:52.160 --> 2:41:53.400 This one comes from Capone. 2:41:54.280 --> 2:41:56.760 He said, when you went to the NBA and Capone 2:41:56.840 --> 2:41:58.879 let you hold his bins for a few months, did 2:41:58.959 --> 2:42:06.160 you crash it? That's crazy. 2:42:07.360 --> 2:42:08.400 It was only a few months. 2:42:09.320 --> 2:42:09.480 Now. 2:42:10.120 --> 2:42:13.720 I don't like opening the relationships. I like close in 2:42:14.040 --> 2:42:16.240 how long? What's the date you want to back? That's 2:42:16.240 --> 2:42:17.760 what I do now. But that's it was opening the 2:42:22.080 --> 2:42:23.560 I just got the phone's calls my cousin. 2:42:23.760 --> 2:42:27.520 The story used to come down slide. I had to 2:42:28.000 --> 2:42:30.800 and I used to tell poem. Whichever what you want, 2:42:30.840 --> 2:42:32.240 I would always give it to him too. 2:42:32.560 --> 2:42:37.039 That's incredible. I did a donut, but Nature, Nature was crying, 2:42:38.879 --> 2:42:42.320 you know. Um he went to somebody realized Nation, let's 2:42:42.320 --> 2:42:46.199 go do some donuts. I said, we're not gonna stop 2:42:46.240 --> 2:42:49.000 doing the door we came here to do, which is 2:42:49.440 --> 2:42:50.800 this is a Jersey Jersey. 2:42:50.920 --> 2:42:53.960 Okay, okay, they'll be doing donuts and crazy. 2:42:54.440 --> 2:42:57.240 But I'm sorry, but but the h one hummer you 2:42:57.320 --> 2:42:59.400 go to, you go to an area where it's designated 2:42:59.440 --> 2:43:00.039 it you could get. 2:43:00.040 --> 2:43:02.200 You could do you could do that. Yes, I'm going 2:43:02.240 --> 2:43:05.320 back to a round here. Question you got something? 2:43:06.400 --> 2:43:09.119 Because so now I want to I want to keep 2:43:09.200 --> 2:43:12.800 going back to girls basketball because my plays basketball. But 2:43:14.320 --> 2:43:19.080 let's say the the Ron artist Animal that you was 2:43:19.200 --> 2:43:20.959 back then, you mentioned you got two. 2:43:20.920 --> 2:43:21.960 Girls that played like you. 2:43:22.640 --> 2:43:25.039 How do you how you developed them as young women 2:43:25.240 --> 2:43:26.520 in this business alone? 2:43:26.560 --> 2:43:26.840 The game? 2:43:27.040 --> 2:43:30.119 Yeah, I think it's all about no contingencies and no compromise, 2:43:30.600 --> 2:43:32.840 right when it comes with are you dealing with women 2:43:33.080 --> 2:43:38.160 where men you're coaching women? And then also I think empowerment. 2:43:38.520 --> 2:43:41.640 And then it's also like, okay, how many times we've 2:43:41.640 --> 2:43:45.160 been not how entourage is all guys, right, I mean, 2:43:45.440 --> 2:43:47.760 how many time you've seen rabbits the entourage old guys? 2:43:47.760 --> 2:43:49.640 So like, what if you added women to your entourage? 2:43:50.680 --> 2:43:53.280 I think it'd be better. But you're talking about on 2:43:53.400 --> 2:43:55.439 a business from a business perspective. 2:43:55.080 --> 2:43:56.480 I was going to say, you have to say, as 2:43:56.480 --> 2:43:58.039 a business business. 2:44:00.760 --> 2:44:04.280 Well, whoever is the principle of that movement? You know 2:44:04.280 --> 2:44:07.240 what I mean? And then it's what whoever gets invited 2:44:07.400 --> 2:44:10.760 is invited. But I'm saying, like, you should be inviting women. 2:44:11.520 --> 2:44:13.199 You see what I'm saying, you should be You should 2:44:13.240 --> 2:44:14.040 be inviting women. 2:44:14.480 --> 2:44:16.160 How do you feel about them in their skill set? 2:44:16.200 --> 2:44:19.800 Where at this point now that they're duncan this is great. 2:44:19.840 --> 2:44:23.920 I mean, you look at Toby from Duke and people. 2:44:24.120 --> 2:44:26.800 You gotta watch the girl. She's dunking backwards. She's dunking backwards. 2:44:26.879 --> 2:44:28.400 It's going to take a little time, but it's going 2:44:28.440 --> 2:44:30.640 to get there. And there's a couple of girls dunking 2:44:30.720 --> 2:44:33.320 right now. And the women's game is good. You know, 2:44:35.240 --> 2:44:37.840 the only two pivots you have is in a women's game, 2:44:37.879 --> 2:44:39.680 you don't have two pivots in the men's game. You 2:44:39.800 --> 2:44:43.000 only got one pivot. So if you see guys doing 2:44:43.040 --> 2:44:46.200 what we normally don't see. You know, you have a 2:44:46.240 --> 2:44:49.520 reason to be upset. Hopefully like Brunston is not doing that. 2:44:50.440 --> 2:44:52.120 But I don't want to go too deep into that. 2:44:52.320 --> 2:44:54.200 But the women's game, it's allowed. That's the only thing 2:44:54.240 --> 2:44:57.160 you'll see different is sometimes it's two pivots. 2:44:57.440 --> 2:45:00.160 Okay, people don't understand that, but that would mean like 2:45:01.240 --> 2:45:03.240 travel coming under the basket. 2:45:03.400 --> 2:45:05.240 That's it. Yeah, I show you can't show you real quick. 2:45:05.360 --> 2:45:06.760 Yeah, but that's not. 2:45:09.120 --> 2:45:14.000 You see a guy Heath fake, that's okay, dribble Heath 2:45:14.080 --> 2:45:15.840 fake and when you pick up you can't do that. 2:45:16.800 --> 2:45:18.120 Oh no, that's a major issue. 2:45:19.360 --> 2:45:20.960 You can do that in jail, you can't do that 2:45:21.000 --> 2:45:24.640 as you can, but in the women's game you could, 2:45:24.720 --> 2:45:26.400 And then you could take that step. And I've been 2:45:26.440 --> 2:45:27.920 going division to women's basketball. 2:45:28.560 --> 2:45:31.199 You can do it. You can take this step Division. 2:45:30.879 --> 2:45:32.760 One to allow it to a woman's not a men's game. 2:45:32.879 --> 2:45:37.920 It's not allowed, so hopefully, but it's entertaining. But on 2:45:38.000 --> 2:45:39.440 the flip side, now you open it up for co 2:45:39.600 --> 2:45:42.880 ed basketball. I mean, these executives are taking high level Honestly, 2:45:42.959 --> 2:45:44.800 I'm not in the room basketball. 2:45:44.959 --> 2:45:49.400 I'm saying basketball teams, club teams. There's co ed. 2:45:49.400 --> 2:45:52.879 Basketball right now. And what I'm saying is it'll be dope. 2:45:52.720 --> 2:45:55.520 To see not to be dope when I sent my 2:45:55.640 --> 2:45:59.920 pro But there's right she could play and go about 2:46:00.040 --> 2:46:01.199 do you think she think about? 2:46:01.280 --> 2:46:02.039 What do you think about her? 2:46:02.280 --> 2:46:04.440 What do you think about her? Hysical aspect that they did? 2:46:04.640 --> 2:46:06.360 Keep saying that they're doing it because she's white. 2:46:06.920 --> 2:46:09.640 I ain't think anything about all that because she's nice. Like, 2:46:09.800 --> 2:46:12.360 it's not that I like it. It's not that I'm 2:46:12.520 --> 2:46:14.720 cuning and I'm I'm. 2:46:14.600 --> 2:46:18.400 Excited for this white girl right more than this black girl. 2:46:18.720 --> 2:46:24.840 That's definitely not it. She's nice, she's not so. But 2:46:24.959 --> 2:46:27.560 I think what's happening is the media has gottentioned on her. 2:46:27.640 --> 2:46:30.680 But sometimes you got to show what Asia did and 2:46:30.760 --> 2:46:32.879 what Kaitlyn did, you should show it at the same time. 2:46:33.200 --> 2:46:36.280 Asia's next level, like Kayla is not ready. She's not 2:46:36.360 --> 2:46:39.800 at that level, but she's showing you a different perspective. 2:46:39.840 --> 2:46:41.600 She's showing you like, ooh, but. 2:46:41.800 --> 2:46:42.520 This girl's nice. 2:46:42.640 --> 2:46:45.400 The difference with Asia is that since she won the chip, 2:46:45.560 --> 2:46:48.640 she won the national like like Kaitlyn never did that, 2:46:49.000 --> 2:46:50.520 even though she had all the hype and broke all 2:46:50.520 --> 2:46:53.320 the records right right right, Asia walked in as a champ. 2:46:53.840 --> 2:46:55.680 I mean, I hear the story. I don't get too 2:46:55.720 --> 2:46:57.640 much involved in those type of stories. I definitely see him, 2:46:57.840 --> 2:47:01.200 acknowledge that I see him. I definitely see him. But 2:47:01.320 --> 2:47:03.560 I think, like you know, I think Kaylen Clark is 2:47:03.600 --> 2:47:06.680 the real deal. Like she when Kobe was like Jordan, 2:47:06.840 --> 2:47:10.040 that's what That's what brought us into Kobe because he 2:47:10.080 --> 2:47:12.680 felt like Jordan. Kaylyn felt like Steph right is like 2:47:12.720 --> 2:47:17.600 Stephan is leaving so ooh so now you right, everybody 2:47:17.640 --> 2:47:20.440 want to be like Mike. So now guys want to 2:47:20.480 --> 2:47:23.200 be like Kayla. She's that deal, you know. 2:47:23.320 --> 2:47:27.520 Before Kaitlyn, the comparison was U Sabrina. I on that 2:47:27.600 --> 2:47:30.920 school with Steph and they did the three on three competition? 2:47:32.400 --> 2:47:33.840 Did you ever do it? You never did it three 2:47:33.879 --> 2:47:35.760 on You never did a three point shoot out. I never. 2:47:35.879 --> 2:47:37.640 I wish I would if everybody wants to, if you can, 2:47:37.760 --> 2:47:38.920 if you want to do it, but I. 2:47:39.000 --> 2:47:39.400 Never made it. 2:47:39.480 --> 2:47:41.039 Never got invited to do the dunk competition. 2:47:41.080 --> 2:47:43.119 A lot of those other girls. I never got invited. 2:47:43.160 --> 2:47:45.280 Now you tried, like sometimes you'll be an athlete. Now 2:47:45.320 --> 2:47:47.760 imagine like we trained in the summer, we think about 2:47:47.840 --> 2:47:51.200 dunk contests because not only me, there's a lot of people. Hey, 2:47:51.200 --> 2:47:53.000 I would love to, but now I'm not getting picked. 2:47:53.000 --> 2:47:55.760 I didn't do nothing in the game. You'll try early 2:47:55.840 --> 2:48:01.040 in November, just try to get off. But December, you 2:48:01.120 --> 2:48:01.800 ain't doing nothing. 2:48:01.840 --> 2:48:04.520 You ain't doing nothing over the rim. 2:48:05.440 --> 2:48:07.400 So yeah, there's a lot of athletes that probably December 2:48:07.440 --> 2:48:09.640 starts to think about just let's get buckets. 2:48:10.800 --> 2:48:14.199 Yeah is it two you you run the record park 2:48:15.440 --> 2:48:16.960 and you bring the trophies to the hood. 2:48:17.600 --> 2:48:19.880 Oh, definitely, definitely. 2:48:19.920 --> 2:48:20.520 What was that like? 2:48:21.520 --> 2:48:25.680 That was incredible? Yeah. So I played with Mousie, I 2:48:25.720 --> 2:48:27.760 played Fat Joe, I play with Diddy as I got 2:48:27.840 --> 2:48:31.760 two championships for Diddy and I got one for Fat Joe, 2:48:32.440 --> 2:48:34.720 two for Fat Joe. I can't remember, but I played 2:48:34.760 --> 2:48:38.119 so so I'm coming from the hood. Now I'm seeing 2:48:38.120 --> 2:48:39.960 Diddy all time, you know what I mean, because he 2:48:40.040 --> 2:48:42.000 paid us to play it. You know what I mean? 2:48:42.240 --> 2:48:45.680 Going there he said, did he say, yo, y'all win? 2:48:46.800 --> 2:48:50.480 You know we can buy everybody rote Alexes? I said, yo, 2:48:53.520 --> 2:48:55.840 So check out. At that moment in time, I'm at 2:48:55.879 --> 2:48:59.600 Saint John's right, So I say, n c AA, you're 2:48:59.640 --> 2:49:01.800 not allowed to play in two tournaments. I can't play 2:49:01.840 --> 2:49:06.240 in Rutger in Nike Pro City. So Reggie from NAS Block, 2:49:06.560 --> 2:49:10.000 he's underlooked, honestly. But Reggie Jesse we got drafted, went 2:49:10.080 --> 2:49:12.520 Saint John's the same year. Reggie is from NAS Block. 2:49:12.879 --> 2:49:18.240 Reggie was All City from queens Bridge right now, he's 2:49:18.240 --> 2:49:20.920 from All City and he averaged forty. I never averaged forty. 2:49:21.520 --> 2:49:23.320 Reggie was. He went to Saint John's together. But then 2:49:23.360 --> 2:49:26.680 I was out shouted. Reggie's unstuffish player. He's always passing 2:49:26.760 --> 2:49:29.280 me the ball, you know what I mean. He's always 2:49:29.280 --> 2:49:31.480 passed me the ball. So I forgot how I got there. 2:49:31.720 --> 2:49:35.599 But I'm asking because you brought the trophies. 2:49:35.840 --> 2:49:38.640 All right. So then Reggie played in Nike Pro City, 2:49:39.240 --> 2:49:43.000 and I played in Rutger, and then lou Gans and 2:49:43.320 --> 2:49:47.000 ravens Wood Queensbridge. They brought home the Nike Pro City Championship. 2:49:47.200 --> 2:49:51.400 Troy Battle Battles, Yeah, my god, Troy Battle, God damn 2:49:52.680 --> 2:49:56.880 Troy Battle was on that team. Yes, because Troy is 2:49:56.879 --> 2:49:57.520 a great baller. 2:49:58.720 --> 2:49:59.360 So I'll played with you. 2:49:59.480 --> 2:50:02.280 So we got and then so I won. I'm a 2:50:02.320 --> 2:50:04.280 part of the Nike Pro City, but I couldn't play 2:50:04.360 --> 2:50:05.280 legally with Saint John's. 2:50:06.200 --> 2:50:07.039 But I was on that team. 2:50:08.240 --> 2:50:08.800 That's my team. 2:50:08.879 --> 2:50:11.040 But I went I went to playing the rutgerd with 2:50:11.200 --> 2:50:13.040 Fat Joe, I mean with Diddy. I think he ever 2:50:13.160 --> 2:50:16.040 did he? Yeah, it made you want to bring the trophies. 2:50:16.440 --> 2:50:19.800 Oh yeah, And it was just a Rutger championship in Queensland. 2:50:19.920 --> 2:50:23.200 That's legendary, like you know what I mean, because you 2:50:23.280 --> 2:50:28.120 know what everybody can hear, you know that. So everybody, 2:50:28.360 --> 2:50:30.360 Oh they so follow a hundred thousand records. 2:50:30.440 --> 2:50:31.000 That's really cool. 2:50:31.040 --> 2:50:33.640 Okay, now it's gonna sell ten member that's really cool. Oh, 2:50:33.760 --> 2:50:36.040 Vernon Fleming's pro and so this is the way he 2:50:36.080 --> 2:50:38.240 was talking about queens It was just fun one moment 2:50:38.280 --> 2:50:41.400 and it'd be bad. But it's walking into Hollywood every day. 2:50:42.120 --> 2:50:43.000 It's a different field. 2:50:43.080 --> 2:50:46.720 So the trophy, the trophy. 2:50:46.879 --> 2:50:49.520 Then we bring the trophy back. Sorry, then bring the 2:50:49.560 --> 2:50:53.440 trophy back. And it was just people were excited and 2:50:53.520 --> 2:50:58.720 it was proud. Like Kenny Itto super Bade super came 2:50:58.800 --> 2:51:03.760 my first game too. Super was really good player, great player. 2:51:03.920 --> 2:51:04.000 And. 2:51:05.720 --> 2:51:06.800 Pick up super Ad well. 2:51:06.959 --> 2:51:11.200 I love Superad so so so because I. 2:51:11.280 --> 2:51:15.520 Remember me hearing that and like that ship boosted the 2:51:15.600 --> 2:51:17.080 morale of the neighborhood. 2:51:17.160 --> 2:51:18.280 Yes, like ship. 2:51:18.320 --> 2:51:20.000 For lack of a better than her for New Yorker, 2:51:20.560 --> 2:51:24.280 Rukle Park trophy is like a fucking it's like an 2:51:24.360 --> 2:51:26.800 NBA trophy. It's kind of like no, and I don't 2:51:26.840 --> 2:51:30.200 think no one like saw an actual rucker. Probably not. 2:51:30.480 --> 2:51:31.040 Yeah, was that? 2:51:31.520 --> 2:51:33.880 Was that the first time you're doing that? I brought 2:51:33.879 --> 2:51:34.119 a lot. 2:51:34.200 --> 2:51:36.400 I buried my Player of the Year in New York 2:51:36.440 --> 2:51:40.880 City with Shakisha and Mike was best friends. She was 2:51:40.920 --> 2:51:43.240 a dope baller and she had a heart attack on 2:51:43.600 --> 2:51:45.000 heart attack on recents the floor. 2:51:45.200 --> 2:51:45.840 But it's crazy. 2:51:46.120 --> 2:51:47.199 Yeah, she was a baller. 2:51:47.280 --> 2:51:47.440 She was. 2:51:48.320 --> 2:51:51.160 Yeah, I don't remember her, but I remember the incident. Yeah, yeah, 2:51:51.400 --> 2:51:53.000 you heard about the incident. Incident. 2:51:53.080 --> 2:51:54.880 Yeah, yeah. So we were the best players in the 2:51:54.959 --> 2:51:57.039 same age and we was we was the best place 2:51:57.120 --> 2:51:58.200 in her She also dated Mike. 2:51:59.400 --> 2:52:02.000 She was She's a pretty good, pretty young lady. 2:52:02.280 --> 2:52:03.760 At that time, and I look up, so I gave 2:52:03.879 --> 2:52:06.880 her by nineteen ninety seven high school Player of the 2:52:06.959 --> 2:52:09.880 Year is her? You know what I mean? 2:52:10.600 --> 2:52:11.840 Noah, that's dopep. 2:52:12.680 --> 2:52:14.080 So I brought a couple other ones. 2:52:14.440 --> 2:52:17.880 Did you did you bring the championship trophy to the hood. 2:52:18.560 --> 2:52:21.240 I don't get that ring. Oh wow, And I gave 2:52:21.280 --> 2:52:23.480 all the money away to mental health institutions but didn't 2:52:23.560 --> 2:52:25.560 like the champion I think the Lakers might have brought 2:52:25.600 --> 2:52:27.520 it now, but you know how Lakers don't printed. But 2:52:27.560 --> 2:52:31.080 the Queen Fers gave me something. They just do something else. 2:52:31.120 --> 2:52:34.040 Some paper put it in this frame. I still haven't wow. 2:52:34.280 --> 2:52:36.640 But yeah, but yeah it was. But I did bring 2:52:36.680 --> 2:52:38.480 a championship. I ain't bring the actual trophy. 2:52:38.800 --> 2:52:39.039 Wow. 2:52:39.400 --> 2:52:42.640 Yeah, but man, what a proud time. 2:52:43.040 --> 2:52:44.600 Yes, yes, money. 2:52:45.959 --> 2:52:48.280 And sure for sure. 2:52:49.280 --> 2:52:51.160 And there's anything else you want to them? Yeah, I mean, 2:52:51.200 --> 2:52:53.600 I mean you know this is no regular like I 2:52:53.680 --> 2:52:57.120 head up everybody know, like I haven't been doing a 2:52:57.160 --> 2:52:57.600 lot of content. 2:52:57.640 --> 2:52:59.160 I'm starting to do this type of stuff. I love 2:52:59.200 --> 2:53:01.440 to talk about this. But when I saw that that 2:53:01.800 --> 2:53:05.200 that that post by early Alesia, I thought that was 2:53:05.200 --> 2:53:07.840 an opportunity for me to say why, because I think 2:53:08.000 --> 2:53:10.640 people need to hear you why, you know what I mean, 2:53:10.720 --> 2:53:13.760 and then and then you need to know your why. 2:53:14.560 --> 2:53:16.320 So then I thought it was an opportunity. So anyway, 2:53:16.600 --> 2:53:24.360 we here, Yeah, drink checks a little drink hell, yeah, and. 2:53:24.440 --> 2:53:30.600 You got everything. Question, I know what the companies man? 2:53:30.760 --> 2:53:32.920 Well, okay, let me let me let me perspective now 2:53:32.959 --> 2:53:35.120 that the company is great, and I don't want to 2:53:35.160 --> 2:53:36.920 talk about like people ask me how much you got? 2:53:38.200 --> 2:53:38.600 You know what I mean? 2:53:38.680 --> 2:53:39.440 Like who cares about that? 2:53:40.160 --> 2:53:40.520 You know what I mean? 2:53:40.600 --> 2:53:42.920 Everybody, anybody out there? Somebody asked me how much? 2:53:43.000 --> 2:53:45.840 I won't Why do you need to know? Right? 2:53:46.000 --> 2:53:48.520 Like so and a lot of people, that's too much information, 2:53:48.720 --> 2:53:52.080 too much, you know what I mean? Because you're asking 2:53:52.120 --> 2:53:55.640 a guy now when the salaries are being exposed, not 2:53:55.760 --> 2:53:58.520 everybody know what you got, so like you already know 2:53:58.560 --> 2:54:00.440 what people got, you know what I mean? So anyway, 2:54:00.480 --> 2:54:02.280 I say that because it would be great if athletes 2:54:02.280 --> 2:54:07.080 can sign contracts nothing be exposed, because sometimes it carry 2:54:07.120 --> 2:54:10.400 brings a lot. But I wanted to say it was 2:54:10.440 --> 2:54:11.600 something I wanted to say. Oh yeah, I got a 2:54:11.640 --> 2:54:14.280 question for you. I had this quesure for you off camera, 2:54:14.320 --> 2:54:18.400 off camera. Is it true? 2:54:18.760 --> 2:54:18.960 You know? 2:54:19.080 --> 2:54:21.000 Hostage hostage media? 2:54:23.080 --> 2:54:23.840 I know, I don't know. 2:54:24.000 --> 2:54:25.800 You know what, We'll just whatever you want to do 2:54:25.840 --> 2:54:27.000 with this content, honestly. 2:54:27.280 --> 2:54:29.480 Okay, so you know his friends, I don't know. 2:54:29.600 --> 2:54:31.760 I don't know okay, So anyway, I was gonna asking 2:54:31.800 --> 2:54:36.800 this question, but so so we had metaphorically speaking twenty twelve, 2:54:36.840 --> 2:54:38.320 any of you called in two thousand and eight. So 2:54:38.400 --> 2:54:41.800 I was the first athlete doing podcast. Nobody, nobody was 2:54:41.840 --> 2:54:44.280 doing it, So I did I had something similar? 2:54:44.600 --> 2:54:45.560 Was it just a sports show? 2:54:45.760 --> 2:54:49.200 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, okay, and so the 2:54:49.200 --> 2:54:51.920 sports show, yeah, yeah, I bought all the cameras and 2:54:52.000 --> 2:54:56.280 then hostage and oh shit, Noordy kme bye and then 2:54:57.000 --> 2:55:00.480 but nothing was propping. I mean, nothing was happening in 2:55:00.560 --> 2:55:04.560 this space at that time. But for me at that time, 2:55:05.360 --> 2:55:08.360 you know, like when you're rapping with the cruise in 2:55:08.400 --> 2:55:10.600 your neighborhood, you all can't be doing the same thing. 2:55:11.160 --> 2:55:12.560 So at that point in time, we were doing the 2:55:12.560 --> 2:55:14.720 same thing and everything that we were doing. But I 2:55:14.760 --> 2:55:17.800 felt like, you know, I turned down a lot of 2:55:17.840 --> 2:55:19.920 opportunities to do podcasts. I didn't going to say that 2:55:20.240 --> 2:55:22.480 because I see it and I'm like, wow, you're in 2:55:22.560 --> 2:55:26.920 this podcast position as a boss and I'm watching this 2:55:26.959 --> 2:55:28.080 ship I never would have respected. 2:55:28.360 --> 2:55:32.840 But why why because you were doing something It wasn't 2:55:32.879 --> 2:55:35.840 a podcast, but you were doing like wasn't it Like 2:55:36.000 --> 2:55:40.600 it wasn't what label what I was doing when you when. 2:55:40.720 --> 2:55:42.960 Like this is like when you first retired, right, well, 2:55:43.000 --> 2:55:46.320 when I first retired, I always was doing something because 2:55:46.920 --> 2:55:48.600 but I was. I was doing the podcast, I was 2:55:48.680 --> 2:55:53.440 doing entertainment, but I wasn't really pursuing it. I was like, 2:55:53.720 --> 2:55:55.760 I mean, I wasn't really serious. But see I was 2:55:55.800 --> 2:55:57.320 having fun. I was having fun for sure. I was 2:55:57.360 --> 2:55:59.680 having fun, and I also didn't I was telling people, hey, 2:55:59.720 --> 2:56:01.880 you want make some bread? I think we could do 2:56:01.959 --> 2:56:04.480 this podcast, but it wasn't something hour interested in. It's 2:56:04.520 --> 2:56:08.199 like you gotta go pull your way. But it's all literacy, 2:56:08.760 --> 2:56:13.240 it's all a learning and everybody, I mean, look at 2:56:13.240 --> 2:56:14.959 that twenty two years old peoples in college. At twenty 2:56:15.000 --> 2:56:17.080 five years old people in college. How many people in 2:56:17.120 --> 2:56:20.000 our entourage is in college? So it doesn't even matter. Okay, 2:56:20.000 --> 2:56:22.200 we'll get to college from from Norrie if you really 2:56:22.240 --> 2:56:23.039 pay attention. 2:56:24.720 --> 2:56:31.440 You know on the podcast problem, Like, uh, Warren Sapple 2:56:31.560 --> 2:56:35.000 is my friend, right well, I love Warren and and 2:56:35.320 --> 2:56:37.480 I've never seen him so happy when he started your 2:56:37.520 --> 2:56:38.600 coach right again? 2:56:40.000 --> 2:56:41.440 Yes, yes we won't have the foot player. 2:56:41.480 --> 2:56:44.880 He loves marine yeah yeah yah yah huge with sharks 2:56:44.879 --> 2:56:47.120 and all that, but like you know what I'm saying, 2:56:47.440 --> 2:56:51.720 I don't need him. I've seen him and since like 2:56:51.920 --> 2:56:55.200 I've seen him work for Colorado, like him coaching like 2:56:55.480 --> 2:56:58.680 fulfills his thrill? Is that the same with you? Like 2:56:58.840 --> 2:57:01.880 like because let's let's admit, like even with me, like 2:57:01.920 --> 2:57:04.680 with hip hop, like when I got yeah. 2:57:11.720 --> 2:57:13.879 That's my guy, if he said, yo, matter you. 2:57:13.959 --> 2:57:17.240 Out like you No, no, no, We're never gonna say 2:57:17.240 --> 2:57:20.120 that listen. So like so, like I said, like even 2:57:20.200 --> 2:57:22.560 for me, like when I when I figured I wanted 2:57:22.560 --> 2:57:27.480 to start media podcast, is the perfect thrill for me. 2:57:28.360 --> 2:57:30.600 So and then when I look at like I said, 2:57:30.600 --> 2:57:34.199 I look at Warren, Warren, like when he took over Colorado. 2:57:34.280 --> 2:57:36.320 Like I don't say take over because you know somebody 2:57:36.320 --> 2:57:38.879 would coote me on it. But you know he became 2:57:38.959 --> 2:57:42.160 a coacher on Colorado. Well it was my man named 2:57:42.560 --> 2:57:46.440 Dion said it fulfilled something for him. Is that just 2:57:46.640 --> 2:57:50.279 like like we're coaching with the girls. I love coaching. 2:57:51.400 --> 2:57:54.080 It doesn't fulfill that that need to like still be 2:57:54.160 --> 2:57:54.520 in the game. 2:57:54.680 --> 2:57:55.520 Listen, I'll still play. 2:57:55.600 --> 2:57:55.920 I'm glad. 2:57:57.240 --> 2:58:00.480 Have I spoken to you about sports before business? I 2:58:00.560 --> 2:58:02.760 have been I said, I said, you can help me 2:58:02.800 --> 2:58:03.720 get a head coaching job. 2:58:04.600 --> 2:58:05.000 I said you that. 2:58:05.120 --> 2:58:06.199 Okay, let's not talk. 2:58:06.080 --> 2:58:08.440 About that, Okay, all right, yeah cool, cool. 2:58:08.560 --> 2:58:11.040 But what I'm saying is in sports, just to bring 2:58:11.120 --> 2:58:11.480 him back. 2:58:11.879 --> 2:58:15.240 Like what I'm asking is like, does the coaching like 2:58:15.320 --> 2:58:15.760 fulfill you? 2:58:15.840 --> 2:58:17.600 Because that's it's the same. 2:58:18.280 --> 2:58:20.280 I just wanted to That's why I said that. 2:58:20.400 --> 2:58:21.760 Yeah, okay, okay, I love coaching. 2:58:21.959 --> 2:58:25.760 Wow, Vince Smith, I will hire Kevin Jackson, Kevin jack 2:58:26.240 --> 2:58:30.080 hold On Artie, Yes, I will hire Hardy cons Would 2:58:30.120 --> 2:58:31.800 you be happy if I hire Kevin Jackson? 2:58:31.840 --> 2:58:34.279 I was okay? Coaching, oh yeah, and business. 2:58:34.120 --> 2:58:35.640 All so good. 2:58:35.720 --> 2:58:36.520 They can't stop us. 2:58:37.040 --> 2:58:39.000 I'm telling you so now I got your I got 2:58:39.200 --> 2:58:42.360 so no, all right, so I'm gonna be a head coach. 2:58:42.440 --> 2:58:46.000 I'm gonna win a championship and I have so you know, 2:58:46.080 --> 2:58:48.400 you give me a head coach and jog right, We're 2:58:48.400 --> 2:58:49.439 gonna win championship. 2:58:50.840 --> 2:58:52.200 That's dope. Check it out. 2:58:52.560 --> 2:58:54.520 This is great and hopefully this is not too much content. 2:58:55.080 --> 2:58:58.560 But this is how I talked to NOORI can I 2:58:58.640 --> 2:59:00.720 talk about my cause they got a baby with you. 2:59:00.800 --> 2:59:04.480 That's again, yes, that's crazy. 2:59:05.360 --> 2:59:07.959 Family Mark, I've seen birthday. But you kept saying. 2:59:07.840 --> 2:59:12.959 Marchal, Okay, so so this is great because like family. 2:59:12.720 --> 2:59:19.400 Man is the family man for sure a little we 2:59:19.440 --> 2:59:20.840 want to make this about you. We want to make 2:59:20.879 --> 2:59:21.280 this about you. 2:59:21.600 --> 2:59:23.200 Are you thinking about We got to make it about you. 2:59:23.440 --> 2:59:26.520 It's good to like it because I'm not doing a podcast. 2:59:26.560 --> 2:59:30.320 I'm just like, yeah, you know why because it's like, like, uh, 2:59:31.600 --> 2:59:32.840 like rappers, we have this right. 2:59:33.120 --> 2:59:35.040 So that's that's the reason why a lot of you 2:59:35.120 --> 2:59:35.440 see my. 2:59:35.520 --> 2:59:39.119 Older rappers, they all got podcasts now, right, and people 2:59:39.160 --> 2:59:44.279 are calling the post podcast syndrome, right, post rap syndrome. 2:59:44.360 --> 2:59:48.440 That's what I meant to say. So, but I'm proud 2:59:48.480 --> 2:59:48.600 of it. 2:59:48.879 --> 2:59:52.760 Early. It's an invasion. It's an invasion of it right 2:59:52.800 --> 2:59:56.200 now because it's so many. It's so many, and it's like, 2:59:56.320 --> 2:59:59.640 all right, cool, Like I understand this walk life because 3:00:00.080 --> 3:00:03.720 like we used to the thrills, were used to hearing people. Yeah, 3:00:04.040 --> 3:00:06.680 and then when you like saying you know what, sometimes 3:00:06.840 --> 3:00:09.440 you can stay on stage forever, right, but some of 3:00:09.560 --> 3:00:10.199 us we don't. 3:00:10.000 --> 3:00:10.800 Have the injuries. 3:00:11.200 --> 3:00:14.160 But you know, the record play the record playoffs, so 3:00:14.160 --> 3:00:17.640 you will you will really stay on stage. So this 3:00:17.840 --> 3:00:21.840 is the new thing for rapers. You think that uh 3:00:22.480 --> 3:00:26.240 for for for an ex athlete or an ex ball player, 3:00:26.280 --> 3:00:28.280 you think that that's the best thing to do is 3:00:28.360 --> 3:00:30.240 to stay in the game like somehow like how you're 3:00:30.280 --> 3:00:33.240 doing with the coaching is because it's the same like 3:00:33.320 --> 3:00:34.240 type of thrill or. 3:00:35.000 --> 3:00:36.640 I think all right, so I man in two parts. 3:00:37.440 --> 3:00:40.040 Definitely important to build your structure. Once you make some money, 3:00:40.040 --> 3:00:42.240 you gotta build your infrastructure, you know, so all your 3:00:42.320 --> 3:00:44.720 documents at LLC's got to be right because you don't 3:00:44.720 --> 3:00:46.840 want to be spending your principal wait for the interest 3:00:46.879 --> 3:00:48.760 that I first year you working with your interests. I 3:00:48.840 --> 3:00:51.960 just want to start there. But then when you get 3:00:52.000 --> 3:00:57.320 to the basketball piece, you don't have to. But if 3:00:57.360 --> 3:00:59.080 you love it, that's you. So I love coaching. So 3:00:59.400 --> 3:01:04.200 for me, I'm associated head coach right and I'm and 3:01:04.240 --> 3:01:07.320 I'm coaching and I'm also having leisure time like I am. 3:01:08.320 --> 3:01:10.840 You see I wor So I want to just repeat 3:01:10.879 --> 3:01:15.200 that I want my guy. But I love coaching, And 3:01:15.280 --> 3:01:17.240 I think, like why because you want to win the title. 3:01:17.560 --> 3:01:18.920 It's like why do you why do you rap? Because 3:01:18.959 --> 3:01:21.680 I want to go platinum, you know, I want to 3:01:21.720 --> 3:01:25.000 win a championship and I think we can. 3:01:24.959 --> 3:01:30.480 Do it when you when you guys play, you play 3:01:30.520 --> 3:01:33.360 in l A. Mainley or California, Right, you. 3:01:33.360 --> 3:01:36.720 Know Division one, Division two is a little bit different travel. Yes, 3:01:37.280 --> 3:01:39.560 obviously the budget that Division two is low, you know 3:01:39.600 --> 3:01:41.640 what I mean. So so we're trying to make division 3:01:41.680 --> 3:01:46.360 too hot. Division two basketball is already they already have infrastructure, you. 3:01:46.400 --> 3:01:46.840 Know what I mean. 3:01:47.560 --> 3:01:49.800 So I love coaching Division too. Now the audience is 3:01:49.879 --> 3:01:51.680 not going to be as big, but for me, it 3:01:51.720 --> 3:01:54.200 gets me a throw organized, you know. 3:01:54.200 --> 3:01:56.920 What I mean, Like I'm the goliath when you take them. 3:01:57.160 --> 3:01:59.160 Yeah, and then now you're now we're playing against so 3:01:59.640 --> 3:02:01.520 we're not the greatest team, but I want to but 3:02:01.600 --> 3:02:04.920 I'll just talk openly. Were like we're beating Division ones, Okay, 3:02:05.640 --> 3:02:09.039 as you should. Yeah, we're beating Division ones and that's okay. 3:02:09.440 --> 3:02:12.200 Division ones. That that's okay. But the thing is, like 3:02:12.240 --> 3:02:14.240 it's a good platform because you can't go to Division two. 3:02:14.360 --> 3:02:17.440 You can't go to Division one. Throw division two, get 3:02:17.480 --> 3:02:19.959 your college degree and build your relationships. 3:02:20.360 --> 3:02:23.240 So what that means is for those that don't understand 3:02:23.720 --> 3:02:25.800 Division one, you getting the top tier talent. 3:02:25.879 --> 3:02:27.880 You get like the top five recruits, the top ten 3:02:27.959 --> 3:02:30.840 recruits of high school in the Nations. 3:02:31.640 --> 3:02:35.520 For Division two, you're offering scholarships, you're offering academics, and 3:02:35.600 --> 3:02:39.960 you're offering a ton of play. But some students are 3:02:40.040 --> 3:02:43.600 players that aren't top five top You could get an 3:02:43.640 --> 3:02:47.880 academic scholarship where the top. Division one is a free 3:02:48.000 --> 3:02:48.640 ride all the way. 3:02:49.360 --> 3:02:52.320 Now Division two, Division three is not a free ride. 3:02:52.640 --> 3:02:56.960 Division two is a free ride, right, so it's really money. Yeah, 3:02:57.480 --> 3:02:58.360 so I love it. 3:02:58.560 --> 3:02:59.920 Are they selling the girls jersey? 3:03:00.560 --> 3:03:02.720 You're not selling jersey, but the girls are getting degrees 3:03:02.760 --> 3:03:09.640 the civil engineering, mechanical engineering, or chemical justice. So they 3:03:09.760 --> 3:03:14.840 getting degrees. No, I don't think it's a different. So 3:03:14.920 --> 3:03:18.720 it's still division to N I L. We are n 3:03:18.760 --> 3:03:21.640 I L. It doesn't matter because division one, how much 3:03:21.720 --> 3:03:24.680 are you all giving because there's no N I L. Right, 3:03:24.959 --> 3:03:28.280 so there's an opportunity in division two. And now private 3:03:28.320 --> 3:03:31.480 equities are one. And you see private equities buying into 3:03:31.640 --> 3:03:34.600 division one. I don't know you see that, but private 3:03:34.600 --> 3:03:38.879 equities buying into division one the sports team right now. 3:03:39.240 --> 3:03:41.480 That's why the n ls are so google right, So 3:03:41.560 --> 3:03:42.119 you could buy. 3:03:42.040 --> 3:03:43.879 One of these teams in university. 3:03:44.120 --> 3:03:47.480 Yeah, yeah, you could actually invest that's crazy. But sec 3:03:47.600 --> 3:03:50.440 compliancy I am not selling an investment to nobody. Please, 3:03:50.760 --> 3:03:56.880 I'm not selling yeah like that, Like, but yeah, you 3:03:56.920 --> 3:04:00.200 can actually invest in on college athletic department. Yes, but 3:04:00.240 --> 3:04:00.920 that's pretty dope. 3:04:01.000 --> 3:04:04.240 But yeah, so let me let me ask you that question. 3:04:05.240 --> 3:04:09.440 Because you he was also McDonald's all American. So that 3:04:09.600 --> 3:04:12.840 jersey is gonna be. That jersey is going to be, 3:04:13.400 --> 3:04:15.600 you know what I mean, Like, especially when you get 3:04:15.640 --> 3:04:17.080 the Hall of Fame. Because're gonna get to the Hall 3:04:17.080 --> 3:04:17.320 of Fame. 3:04:20.760 --> 3:04:22.800 I just want to tell people I didn't want to. 3:04:22.920 --> 3:04:25.440 I just like to give credit to my people from 3:04:25.480 --> 3:04:27.280 the streets, right, you want to. 3:04:27.280 --> 3:04:31.120 Get that fame. But now we see that the college 3:04:31.160 --> 3:04:32.720 players are getting paid off their jersey. 3:04:33.800 --> 3:04:35.680 Now you go to the Hall of Fame. 3:04:35.760 --> 3:04:39.800 Now you get the old American Uh, the McDonald's game, right, yep, 3:04:39.840 --> 3:04:42.480 the McDonald's game. Now all of these jerseys are gonna 3:04:42.520 --> 3:04:44.880 come pop back up. You get paid for in the 3:04:44.920 --> 3:04:45.520 air that ship. 3:04:46.840 --> 3:04:49.920 Honestly, no, Like if you don't have a contract, the 3:04:50.240 --> 3:04:55.360 obvious answers no, like wow, and music and sports is 3:04:55.400 --> 3:04:59.480 the same business, right, So from that perspective, ideally you 3:04:59.560 --> 3:05:02.160 would be negotiating I p from the front of the 3:05:02.200 --> 3:05:06.440 jump but yeah, you negotiating the IP, the. 3:05:06.480 --> 3:05:11.200 Manufacturer, the manufacturers and making the McDonald's jerseys, you'd have 3:05:11.280 --> 3:05:12.280 to have the son with them. 3:05:12.480 --> 3:05:15.160 You ain't negotiating IP from the jump, right, Like as 3:05:15.280 --> 3:05:16.199 a fifteen year old. 3:05:16.080 --> 3:05:17.920 You try to get. All you want is M D P. 3:05:18.200 --> 3:05:19.959 No you want for film. 3:05:20.280 --> 3:05:22.840 So from that perspective, I think like now as NIL 3:05:22.920 --> 3:05:26.279 is introduced, I think we'll see more of this start 3:05:26.360 --> 3:05:30.480 a little earlier. It's incredible to see. It's incredible to see. 3:05:30.480 --> 3:05:32.680 I love sports and entertainment. I feel like it's almost equal, 3:05:33.840 --> 3:05:35.920 you know. But you asked the question, but I'm no. 3:05:36.120 --> 3:05:39.039 But that's that's crazy because now these college students are 3:05:39.560 --> 3:05:40.760 are getting paid off their jersey. 3:05:40.840 --> 3:05:46.879 Correct, they don't to hold up a drink. I drink 3:05:46.959 --> 3:05:51.439 this ten million hear everything like they're making. 3:05:52.000 --> 3:05:53.960 But they still need structure right now. 3:05:54.120 --> 3:05:56.680 So this is the thing. If you see somebody else crazy, 3:05:57.320 --> 3:05:59.280 if you saw a playout right, you see you just 3:05:59.320 --> 3:06:02.120 see a random athlete. You heard about he hot, he 3:06:02.280 --> 3:06:05.600 making bread as they are, so he making bread? Can 3:06:05.640 --> 3:06:08.520 you see him out? Is your first reaction to give 3:06:08.600 --> 3:06:11.959 him some financial literacy as somebody that wanted to give 3:06:11.959 --> 3:06:15.600 it back. That's in the media business, you know, right, 3:06:16.160 --> 3:06:18.840 but it's like to assume you got it and you're 3:06:18.879 --> 3:06:21.720 assuming that everything's okay. But what I found out was 3:06:21.840 --> 3:06:24.120 everything was not okay. So I'm so excited. It's an 3:06:24.160 --> 3:06:27.640 opportunity for us to give back because you know, hey, 3:06:27.800 --> 3:06:29.560 if we come to you and we say, hey, is 3:06:29.600 --> 3:06:31.800 everything okay, We're not digging in your. 3:06:31.720 --> 3:06:33.680 Pockets, right, you're not pocket checking. 3:06:34.200 --> 3:06:35.720 I don't care what you got. I don't want to 3:06:35.760 --> 3:06:37.720 know you're good. How's your infrastructure? 3:06:38.240 --> 3:06:38.400 You know. 3:06:39.000 --> 3:06:40.640 I'm not saying you're not good, I'm just asking are 3:06:40.680 --> 3:06:40.959 you good? 3:06:42.000 --> 3:06:46.440 And that's not in your due diligence of associate coach. 3:06:46.560 --> 3:06:49.440 That's just speaking as a mention. 3:06:49.560 --> 3:06:51.480 So transparently, I have a sports agency. I have to 3:06:51.520 --> 3:06:54.720 say that, Okay, sec Compliancy Artist Management Group dot com 3:06:54.840 --> 3:06:56.240 sec Compliancy damn. 3:07:00.080 --> 3:07:00.240 Yeah. 3:07:00.520 --> 3:07:03.640 But transparently, you know what I mean, we have a 3:07:03.640 --> 3:07:04.720 sports agency. 3:07:06.160 --> 3:07:06.680 That makes sense. 3:07:06.720 --> 3:07:10.199 That makes sense now because I'm not I'm not selling nobody. 3:07:10.440 --> 3:07:14.480 You're right, I'm growing up. 3:07:14.520 --> 3:07:16.920 But so I have two agencies. From Kobe Shin though 3:07:17.080 --> 3:07:20.640 the story she has doing nothing average agency and then 3:07:20.760 --> 3:07:24.280 Stacey Labor Labor Sports and Entertainment dot Com and then 3:07:24.320 --> 3:07:26.640 Covid and then doing nothing average dot Com. Those two 3:07:26.680 --> 3:07:28.840 of my agents, and then we have a couple others 3:07:28.879 --> 3:07:31.160 so so so yeah, were in it, and then we 3:07:31.240 --> 3:07:34.680 also have at some point transparency. At some point I'm 3:07:34.680 --> 3:07:36.039 going to have to make a decision and I'm getting 3:07:36.040 --> 3:07:42.200 into sports ownership or uh or management or agency sports agency. 3:07:42.680 --> 3:07:46.000 But it shouldn't stop the momentum. I just want to 3:07:46.000 --> 3:07:48.600 throw that out there real quick. But but yeah, so yeah, 3:07:48.640 --> 3:07:50.039 but yeah, you know we love sports. 3:07:50.480 --> 3:07:51.400 We love sports here too. 3:07:51.440 --> 3:07:51.800 We love. 3:07:55.160 --> 3:08:00.280 We take the pictures, right, Okay for a careful hood 3:08:00.280 --> 3:08:07.920 who loves bad thank you keep that loves loves basketball. Right, 3:08:08.800 --> 3:08:12.680 they grew up with they like they pissed Paul, but 3:08:12.800 --> 3:08:15.520 they got that passion. What do you suggest like that 3:08:15.640 --> 3:08:17.960 same eight year old kid, you know what I mean? 3:08:18.000 --> 3:08:19.880 Like I think you said your father started your hate. 3:08:20.040 --> 3:08:22.560 But what are you talking about? Yes, yes, a kid 3:08:22.640 --> 3:08:26.240 from open Lock, a kid from Compton, a kid from 3:08:26.840 --> 3:08:30.400 UH projects. 3:08:30.440 --> 3:08:30.600 You know. 3:08:30.800 --> 3:08:31.840 Yeah, yes, I'm just. 3:08:31.840 --> 3:08:34.959 Saying also to say yes, keep going on. 3:08:35.280 --> 3:08:37.240 So like like like like, what do you say to 3:08:37.320 --> 3:08:39.680 that eight year old kid that wants to wants to 3:08:40.280 --> 3:08:43.640 live that same dream that you live, doesn't have the resources. 3:08:44.480 --> 3:08:45.880 All they have is they heart? 3:08:46.000 --> 3:08:50.760 Like really yes? But is that enough? 3:08:50.879 --> 3:08:52.160 So what do you say to that eight. 3:08:52.200 --> 3:08:53.400 Year old one? 3:08:53.400 --> 3:08:56.039 I wanted to say, Like the reason I was, I can't. 3:08:56.040 --> 3:08:58.760 I can't catch you off when you have like tequila, 3:08:58.800 --> 3:09:00.360 which is opera is not a downer. I think this 3:09:00.440 --> 3:09:02.560 is okay. Yoah should not be not the head coach 3:09:02.600 --> 3:09:04.840 for drink get to KILLO because you're friends with people 3:09:04.879 --> 3:09:05.960 that drink down there. I'm jerious. 3:09:06.320 --> 3:09:13.120 Yes, put your question here, like you're an eight year 3:09:13.160 --> 3:09:15.840 old that's like he wants to play ball. He has 3:09:15.920 --> 3:09:18.880 the passion, he just doesn't have the resources. What is 3:09:19.160 --> 3:09:19.600 this guy? 3:09:20.080 --> 3:09:24.360 Yeah? Community got it? Like, let's think of Rockaway. Don't 3:09:24.400 --> 3:09:27.000 understand about Farrocolay is it's the roughest part in New 3:09:27.080 --> 3:09:30.720 York City to live in. It's two hours no matter 3:09:30.800 --> 3:09:32.760 which way you talk, you talk about it. So let's 3:09:32.800 --> 3:09:34.680 just talk about that as a case study. I grew 3:09:34.720 --> 3:09:37.039 up in Fai Rockaway in the summertime. And so if 3:09:37.080 --> 3:09:39.160 you're a kid, if you get one case study and 3:09:39.280 --> 3:09:41.320 you take this case study and you bring it around, 3:09:41.720 --> 3:09:44.000 I would say, like, you know, it's not all about 3:09:44.080 --> 3:09:47.080 sports and entertainment, Like I think you have to learn 3:09:47.120 --> 3:09:47.920 how to build stuff. 3:09:48.360 --> 3:09:49.080 I think you have to. 3:09:49.480 --> 3:09:51.440 You definitely want to adapt with the times. But what 3:09:51.640 --> 3:09:53.480 what skill set do you have? That's why I will 3:09:53.520 --> 3:09:56.520 say first because on because the majority only a few 3:09:56.560 --> 3:09:59.879 people going pro that's the stats, right right, So then 3:10:00.080 --> 3:10:02.000 like I would say, learn how to build your community, 3:10:02.640 --> 3:10:05.080 and right now that I think there's opportunities they're building 3:10:05.200 --> 3:10:08.280 the attention fine right now. So if that's truly the case, 3:10:08.920 --> 3:10:11.959 you should give some of those some of those literacy jobs. 3:10:12.280 --> 3:10:14.240 You got to do it three years in advance, and 3:10:14.360 --> 3:10:17.160 you teach them how to build their own communities, you 3:10:17.200 --> 3:10:17.560 know what I mean? 3:10:17.560 --> 3:10:18.920 Because you can there's things you could do. 3:10:19.360 --> 3:10:21.240 It's plumbing. How long does it take to get a 3:10:21.280 --> 3:10:25.560 plumbing license? Or I got a company build ups dot com, 3:10:26.440 --> 3:10:32.680 build ups dot com, hvactors a big refrigeration. But I'm 3:10:32.720 --> 3:10:35.200 saying like slow money, you you know, And then how 3:10:35.240 --> 3:10:39.120 do we support each other anyway? And also under the 3:10:39.200 --> 3:10:41.680 context of being on the show, Yeah, I feel like 3:10:41.680 --> 3:10:43.120 I want to say certain things, but. 3:10:45.680 --> 3:10:48.760 Anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because yeah. 3:10:48.600 --> 3:10:51.400 It's crazy to like just seeing Normay and you get 3:10:51.440 --> 3:10:52.320 ask any questions you want to. 3:10:54.400 --> 3:10:56.640 I feel like you gave me financial advice. But but 3:10:57.160 --> 3:10:58.560 he needs basketball advice? 3:10:58.640 --> 3:10:59.800 What basket advice? 3:11:00.080 --> 3:11:03.400 Go to Artest Education Foundation. Honestly say you can Basco advice. Okay, 3:11:03.760 --> 3:11:09.400 so right now, yeah, art Test Education Foundation because right 3:11:09.400 --> 3:11:11.960 now we're just trying to figure out we never launched 3:11:11.959 --> 3:11:14.200 the program we are now. But I've done so much 3:11:14.240 --> 3:11:17.120 in philanthropy, you know, I've done so much. I had 3:11:17.160 --> 3:11:20.440 one group tell me matter, you know, you don't really 3:11:20.520 --> 3:11:25.680 meet impliancy for for your foundation to receive funds. I'm saying, well, 3:11:26.240 --> 3:11:29.360 what do you mean? This is twenty and twenty five. 3:11:30.320 --> 3:11:34.240 In twenty ten, I raffled off my championship bring is 3:11:34.320 --> 3:11:37.039 documented and I gave away six hundred and seventy one thousand. 3:11:38.720 --> 3:11:39.520 So what do you what are you? 3:11:39.760 --> 3:11:43.440 What are you talking about? Why are you making a loopholes? Yes? 3:11:43.520 --> 3:11:46.400 Yes, the Lakers, Yes, my lagagee yes, yes, what did 3:11:46.440 --> 3:11:47.400 you get for it? Oh? 3:11:48.200 --> 3:11:48.760 What I did? So? 3:11:48.920 --> 3:11:52.160 So Diddy try to you know, Diddy offer two hundred 3:11:52.160 --> 3:11:54.520 and twenty five thousand. That's I played for coach Diddy, 3:11:54.600 --> 3:11:56.560 so I don't know. So he offered two and twenty 3:11:56.560 --> 3:11:58.520 five thousand. I said that's not gonna be enough, because 3:11:58.520 --> 3:12:00.480 if I sell it if I raffle it for a dollar, 3:12:00.840 --> 3:12:02.120 I think I can give my money. Not for me, 3:12:02.160 --> 3:12:06.000 I'm not pugging in my pockets, but calls so anyway. 3:12:06.320 --> 3:12:10.840 And he also the RUT championship. Oh he always eighteen 3:12:10.879 --> 3:12:14.480 thousand dollars watches like but I say that because not 3:12:14.600 --> 3:12:17.600 why everybody else thinking about it? I played for coach Diddy, 3:12:18.280 --> 3:12:22.040 So that's all I'm saying, because sometimes you can't avoid 3:12:22.480 --> 3:12:26.720 talking about Diddy. No, right, and then perspective on it. 3:12:26.800 --> 3:12:29.080 And this is a revolt, right, this is a revolt. 3:12:29.200 --> 3:12:34.960 So this is a revolt. But this is why I 3:12:35.040 --> 3:12:35.520 do what I do. 3:12:36.640 --> 3:12:36.760 Right. 3:12:37.000 --> 3:12:40.680 I see a rapping, I'm like, yo, Like, okay, what's 3:12:40.720 --> 3:12:43.520 the bigger picture. I see a ballplayer and I'm I'm 3:12:43.520 --> 3:12:45.600 mentoring boxes right now. I'm not gonna say their names, 3:12:46.200 --> 3:12:50.360 but I'm actually mentoring like boxes, basketball players move too, 3:12:50.520 --> 3:12:51.400 And I'm so exciting. 3:12:51.600 --> 3:12:54.000 I heard this the other day. I was I kept 3:12:54.080 --> 3:12:56.600 researching you, and you were saying that at one point 3:12:56.640 --> 3:12:58.400 in your life he was watching boxing. More thing he 3:12:58.520 --> 3:13:03.280 was watching, Yeah, my dad for you, My dad was 3:13:03.360 --> 3:13:04.240 my dad's two on one. 3:13:04.320 --> 3:13:06.600 You go to BoxRec dot com, which is the main 3:13:06.959 --> 3:13:09.320 I think you all been to box I think twenty percent. 3:13:09.480 --> 3:13:13.680 You've been to box wrect watch boxing every day. So 3:13:13.760 --> 3:13:17.360 my dad's on't My dad's on box wrecks. He's two 3:13:17.400 --> 3:13:17.640 on one. 3:13:17.959 --> 3:13:20.360 Then he had me, so that's what happened. So my 3:13:20.440 --> 3:13:22.640 dad's two on one. He's a boxing professional boxer. He's 3:13:22.640 --> 3:13:27.840 from Philly, you know what I mean? So, yeah, yeah, me, 3:13:27.959 --> 3:13:31.000 But I love boxing in my favorite sport. We had 3:13:31.000 --> 3:13:33.879 Oh yeah, can Intrinsic dot Com. That's my CPA accounting firm. 3:13:34.760 --> 3:13:38.720 I'm not promoting to you, but Canelo Science Intrinsic Biz 3:13:39.640 --> 3:13:42.320 Intrinsic dot Biz we have a so I launched that 3:13:42.400 --> 3:13:45.720 twenty fifteen. But I love boxing because in boxing you 3:13:45.760 --> 3:13:49.920 can get a larger management fee. That's legal. Wow, I 3:13:49.959 --> 3:13:52.440 ain't saying no, that's not legal. But in basketball's at 3:13:52.480 --> 3:13:54.320 four percent. Boxing is different. 3:13:54.760 --> 3:13:55.680 So you know. 3:13:55.760 --> 3:13:58.960 So, but I love boxing, and I think like Louie 3:13:59.000 --> 3:14:01.800 from Tenth Street on my block. He's the first person 3:14:01.840 --> 3:14:07.600 to knocked down Roy Jones. You know Louis Yeah, so 3:14:07.840 --> 3:14:10.480 you should do little history. He has trained on the 3:14:10.560 --> 3:14:13.760 Floyd Maybethers fighters. This is drink Chance sports, you know 3:14:13.800 --> 3:14:19.040 what I mean. So he's also from my block from 3:14:19.240 --> 3:14:22.080 his building attached to line of meat building like, so 3:14:22.480 --> 3:14:24.840 he also won titles and his family was they was 3:14:24.879 --> 3:14:28.240 winning kickboxing. So his sister and his little brother kickboxing 3:14:28.320 --> 3:14:32.119 championships at the same level. So he actually Roy Jones 3:14:32.160 --> 3:14:36.280 be anyway, people forget about Louis, but boxing is like, 3:14:36.520 --> 3:14:37.440 why do I love boxing? 3:14:37.520 --> 3:14:38.199 My dad box? 3:14:39.400 --> 3:14:41.320 My dad used to take me to the Lost Battalion 3:14:41.920 --> 3:14:45.200 and you know in New York, but he would keep 3:14:45.200 --> 3:14:46.600 me away from boxing. He didn't want me to get 3:14:46.640 --> 3:14:50.760 your head, so my dad, I would see, I see, Yeah, 3:14:50.800 --> 3:14:53.920 he never wanted me to fight, you know what I mean. 3:14:54.360 --> 3:14:58.120 So my dad's two and one and he fighting, and 3:14:59.000 --> 3:15:01.280 I want to learn because my dad's in my life, 3:15:01.320 --> 3:15:03.880 even though he was like to my mom he wasn't 3:15:03.879 --> 3:15:06.200 the best coming into that, but to me, he was 3:15:06.280 --> 3:15:09.760 dead every day. Something he kept me from boxing. But 3:15:09.879 --> 3:15:12.040 the crazy thing was it's a great story though. The 3:15:12.160 --> 3:15:16.360 crazy thing was two thousand and twenty six something like that, 3:15:16.480 --> 3:15:18.360 maybe twenty four, I don't quite remember. My dad got 3:15:18.440 --> 3:15:21.280 me on the phone. This is two thousand oh four, sorry, 3:15:21.360 --> 3:15:26.160 oh four six. Who's Muhammad Ali trainer Bundy? That's his 3:15:26.240 --> 3:15:31.119 full name. Angelo Dundee, Yes, Angelo Dundee training. So I'm like, dad, 3:15:31.160 --> 3:15:32.720 how the hell are you on the phone with Angelo 3:15:32.760 --> 3:15:34.720 Dundee or my dad? I always wanted to give him 3:15:34.760 --> 3:15:39.200 four fights now you well, yeah, I just say four. Okay, 3:15:39.240 --> 3:15:41.640 let's have four. So you see are people fighting now? 3:15:42.400 --> 3:15:42.600 Yeah? 3:15:42.760 --> 3:15:44.360 Okay, so anyway four I'm not fighting now. 3:15:44.360 --> 3:15:46.320 I'm not doing it now. Turned down there. I'm not 3:15:46.440 --> 3:15:46.880 doing it now. 3:15:47.160 --> 3:15:48.720 It's like I'm forty six, I'm on vacation. 3:15:49.160 --> 3:15:50.000 I'm not fighting. 3:15:51.480 --> 3:15:55.960 Nobody in that area. In two thousand and four, I 3:15:56.080 --> 3:15:59.560 thought like, what Jake Paul is doing right now? I 3:15:59.600 --> 3:16:03.480 want to celebrity boxing. Yeah, it's two thousand and five 3:16:03.760 --> 3:16:04.320 if he did that. 3:16:04.920 --> 3:16:08.280 But Mike, Mike was different than O four six huh Tyson. 3:16:09.160 --> 3:16:10.879 I'm not saying I'm a fight against Mike Tyson. 3:16:13.760 --> 3:16:14.440 I'm saying I want you. 3:16:14.520 --> 3:16:14.680 I was. 3:16:14.879 --> 3:16:17.320 I was thinking of what Jake Paul was doing. I 3:16:17.400 --> 3:16:19.960 do not want to get hit in my head. I 3:16:20.040 --> 3:16:23.040 got to offer from Triller. I said, you know, there's 3:16:23.080 --> 3:16:26.080 no amount of money y'all can offer me. I talk 3:16:26.120 --> 3:16:29.640 about you know what I mean, he's you know, he's 3:16:29.680 --> 3:16:34.280 oct five hundred thousand, definitely not enough to fight, you know. 3:16:34.400 --> 3:16:36.600 But I think I now, I do think I would 3:16:36.600 --> 3:16:41.200 be more entertaining have a better track record, but you 3:16:41.280 --> 3:16:42.800 know what I mean, I have a way better track 3:16:42.879 --> 3:16:46.280 records or how right? So anyway, but anyway, I love 3:16:46.360 --> 3:16:48.840 boxing that much. We got boxing Cordell Booker. We just 3:16:48.879 --> 3:16:52.560 signed Cordeal Booker. He lost against Frondora, but everybody's losing 3:16:52.600 --> 3:17:00.120 against front doorra every transit dot com intrinsic business like 3:17:00.200 --> 3:17:03.600 a CPA accounting for where we managed only accounting all 3:17:03.680 --> 3:17:08.800 fuduciaries taxes. And we have another company that where we 3:17:08.879 --> 3:17:13.280 signed Cordel Booker to our box PGT Sports. That's where 3:17:13.320 --> 3:17:15.200 we got Cordel Booker and we got more boxes though. 3:17:15.440 --> 3:17:17.280 But I'm like behind the scenes now, but you know 3:17:17.400 --> 3:17:20.080 this is yeah, I love But anyway boxing. I can 3:17:20.120 --> 3:17:22.360 go on and on about boxing, like I call Floyd, 3:17:22.400 --> 3:17:24.880 I ain't gonna talk too much about it. Floyd's by god. 3:17:25.120 --> 3:17:27.800 I always check about Floyd, and Floyd is so dope, 3:17:28.360 --> 3:17:30.560 like he would give me tickets to the games to 3:17:30.640 --> 3:17:33.119 the fights. I say games to the fights. He ain't 3:17:33.120 --> 3:17:35.840 give it eighty tickets. I'm like, hey, family, we got 3:17:35.879 --> 3:17:39.520 any tickets to Floyd tonight on the front Road. I 3:17:39.640 --> 3:17:42.280 love Floyd, and I'm not talking about one fight. So 3:17:42.320 --> 3:17:43.920 I'm like always like, Floyd, what can I do for you? 3:17:44.000 --> 3:17:47.240 But Floyd Mayweather, I feel like, you know, he doesn't 3:17:47.280 --> 3:17:49.080 drink I've been out with Floyd. You don't drink it 3:17:49.160 --> 3:17:52.720 on smoke. And I'm like, that's inspiring to see as 3:17:52.760 --> 3:17:55.600 an athlete, you know. And then also we see the 3:17:55.640 --> 3:18:00.200 stuff that's happening now. But we talked about when is 3:18:00.280 --> 3:18:03.959 to support each other, right ye, fact absolutely talked always. 3:18:04.680 --> 3:18:05.320 But that's sports. 3:18:05.760 --> 3:18:08.000 So I got a good one for you. Yeah, and 3:18:08.120 --> 3:18:10.080 then you're never gonna hear my month forget. 3:18:10.680 --> 3:18:10.840 Oh. 3:18:10.959 --> 3:18:17.879 Yeah, I'm like, yeah, this is. 3:18:17.959 --> 3:18:21.480 Nothing crazy or anything like that, because you've had a 3:18:21.560 --> 3:18:25.480 long career and I count your career after back ladies. 3:18:27.000 --> 3:18:30.640 Yes, she's here, No left, Yes, I was just going 3:18:31.080 --> 3:18:34.440 because it's a little bit of cava left a little cover. No, 3:18:34.520 --> 3:18:36.080 that's okay, now we already I was you gonna put 3:18:36.120 --> 3:18:37.800 water in it, meeting water. 3:18:38.080 --> 3:18:44.320 Mister Lee got you And I mean this from the beginning. 3:18:44.000 --> 3:18:47.120 Of your career getting a dollar the first dollar you 3:18:47.200 --> 3:18:52.200 ever got paid professionally, so it might be n b A, 3:18:52.520 --> 3:18:56.000 it might be before that, all the way till today. 3:18:56.240 --> 3:19:04.240 Yeah, I regret that maybe might help a younger kid. 3:19:04.360 --> 3:19:07.960 Yes, yes, yes, yes, someone who's had the kind of 3:19:08.080 --> 3:19:09.039 success you've asked. 3:19:09.040 --> 3:19:10.200 So I do want to stay free. 3:19:10.600 --> 3:19:14.680 Yes, one regret you may have had, Yeah, might be 3:19:14.720 --> 3:19:16.560 able to help someone else. So I'm gonna say that, 3:19:16.760 --> 3:19:19.039 Like I used to do homework on Tell Street because 3:19:19.080 --> 3:19:20.920 like I was in my house and there was things 3:19:21.000 --> 3:19:22.680 going on. I don't want to talk about it because 3:19:22.720 --> 3:19:26.800 my mom and dad is awesome. But so I'm gonna 3:19:26.800 --> 3:19:29.039 do my homework outside on Toll Street. That's why I'm 3:19:29.040 --> 3:19:31.600 doing my homework. Yeah, you see my grades. I told 3:19:31.600 --> 3:19:34.480 you about my grades. Yes, all right, you see what 3:19:34.480 --> 3:19:39.000 I'm saying. So, so it's about the lock in. You 3:19:39.080 --> 3:19:41.480 know what I'm saying, because like at home, it's like 3:19:41.520 --> 3:19:43.039 where are you gonna do your homework? Don't you gotta 3:19:43.080 --> 3:19:45.920 do homework? I tell you, when one ban two w LA, 3:19:47.800 --> 3:19:50.280 you lose two weeks of school. When you lose two 3:19:50.320 --> 3:19:53.520 weeks of school in nineteen ninety three, how are you 3:19:53.560 --> 3:19:56.520 gonna catch up? You're gonna get left back, right, You're 3:19:56.560 --> 3:19:59.280 gonna get left back. It's a failed, is a fail? 3:20:00.120 --> 3:20:02.000 How are you going to catch up? So, and we 3:20:02.160 --> 3:20:05.360 know that is a stat So from that perspective, I 3:20:05.440 --> 3:20:08.039 got to give this information, right, you. 3:20:08.080 --> 3:20:08.959 Got to give this information. 3:20:09.240 --> 3:20:12.320 And then also if somebody's being locked up that it 3:20:12.360 --> 3:20:15.080 should be it should not be tied to the school system. 3:20:15.400 --> 3:20:18.199 If you in jail, she'd not should still graduate because 3:20:18.240 --> 3:20:18.840 who knows why? 3:20:19.280 --> 3:20:19.920 Right? Right? 3:20:20.120 --> 3:20:20.240 Right? 3:20:20.520 --> 3:20:22.520 You know what I'm saying. Who knows why this kid 3:20:22.879 --> 3:20:23.640 when left. 3:20:24.040 --> 3:20:25.720 And doesn't pick up? 3:20:26.080 --> 3:20:29.560 Yeah, who knows ye or the dys or the juvenile 3:20:29.920 --> 3:20:33.840 pick up where that kid is ages in school while 3:20:33.879 --> 3:20:34.560 he's locked up. 3:20:34.640 --> 3:20:37.200 So for me, in nineteen ninety three, I wanted to 3:20:37.200 --> 3:20:41.040 be a math teacher. I was two or four. That's 3:20:41.040 --> 3:20:42.480 why I mentioned in the Math Architect I want to 3:20:42.480 --> 3:20:43.680 be a math teacher because at that age I was 3:20:43.720 --> 3:20:45.960 going through a lot. And now I can get complain 3:20:46.000 --> 3:20:48.560 about it. But you're on these type of platforms, you 3:20:48.600 --> 3:20:51.360 can talk about them. When you're on these type of platforms, 3:20:52.600 --> 3:20:53.400 you can talk about it. 3:20:54.000 --> 3:20:54.520 You know what I mean? 3:20:54.640 --> 3:20:56.440 Like what I told about I said, you know what 3:20:57.320 --> 3:21:00.800 just so happened? I know, nory it is the regret. Okay, 3:21:00.840 --> 3:21:01.560 ask the question again. 3:21:02.160 --> 3:21:05.800 Regret regret one, regret one. I give you a few. 3:21:05.840 --> 3:21:06.360 I give you a few. 3:21:08.080 --> 3:21:11.840 I already one, I give you one, and well nobody 3:21:11.879 --> 3:21:16.039 say he good, We're good good alright, so I would say, 3:21:17.320 --> 3:21:18.960 so the first thing I want so I was signed 3:21:19.000 --> 3:21:21.160 to and I also want to give content, but I'm 3:21:21.160 --> 3:21:24.480 also trying to get content respectfully. But like, so I 3:21:24.560 --> 3:21:25.720 signed with Dwayne. 3:21:25.440 --> 3:21:30.199 Martin, Yeah, the actor. Yeah, yeah, only one. 3:21:30.200 --> 3:21:34.320 Dayne name the second name, my second Dwayne No, no, no, 3:21:34.560 --> 3:21:34.840 my bad. 3:21:34.840 --> 3:21:35.520 I just had to take it. 3:21:36.080 --> 3:21:40.480 I know, I'm actually not I'm actually I'm actually not 3:21:40.640 --> 3:21:43.240 challenging you. I'm actually really curious. Do you know another 3:21:43.320 --> 3:21:43.800 Dwayne Martin? 3:21:43.959 --> 3:21:47.920 No, dude, I know. 3:21:48.800 --> 3:21:52.000 For those that don't know, Dwayne Martin, k Kylie Watson 3:21:53.120 --> 3:21:53.720 above the rim. 3:21:54.240 --> 3:21:56.080 Okay, great, I said, I don't know that. Oh he 3:21:56.160 --> 3:21:56.800 was in about the room. 3:21:56.840 --> 3:21:58.360 Saytie Watson, that's what I'm saying. 3:21:58.440 --> 3:22:00.440 Okay, great, I say, okay, that's his name. Yeah, okay, 3:22:00.480 --> 3:22:03.240 So anyway, he was my first agent. He came to 3:22:03.280 --> 3:22:06.280 queens Bridge. So I love Dwayne and he's my he's 3:22:06.280 --> 3:22:07.920 a real close friend and teacher and his wife and 3:22:07.959 --> 3:22:11.280 they divorced since they're both really good friends. Say he's 3:22:11.320 --> 3:22:14.680 my first agent. But I think like at that time, 3:22:15.200 --> 3:22:16.640 so I do want to say I wanted to buy 3:22:16.680 --> 3:22:19.400 a Prius. I'm sorry, a caravan. Because when you were 3:22:19.400 --> 3:22:22.760 in high school, right in nineteen ninety six, you don't 3:22:22.800 --> 3:22:23.200 got a car. 3:22:24.000 --> 3:22:25.920 Where are you looking at in New York City? Tell me, 3:22:26.320 --> 3:22:27.160 I know you did it before. 3:22:27.240 --> 3:22:30.400 Tell me what maner? 3:22:30.959 --> 3:22:34.280 Okay, the newspaper. That's everybody lives in the newspaper. 3:22:34.280 --> 3:22:37.760 Who from New York? So you see that caravan, you 3:22:37.840 --> 3:22:41.560 see that Chrysler. You ain't look at that? No business, right, 3:22:41.800 --> 3:22:43.280 you're too young, that's your range. 3:22:46.240 --> 3:23:00.200 I'm sure now we looked at the Crysler MPV. Ain't 3:23:00.200 --> 3:23:01.200 Lopez had an mp V. 3:23:01.879 --> 3:23:05.199 He found Negro but ethnicity. 3:23:05.720 --> 3:23:08.800 I'm going to be in New Jersey, christ that's not. 3:23:14.280 --> 3:23:16.400 Definitely washing. 3:23:17.320 --> 3:23:20.160 So I wanted to buy a caravan. My first check 3:23:20.200 --> 3:23:22.640 in the NB. I'm not gonna lie. I wanted about caravan. 3:23:22.680 --> 3:23:24.320 I wanted to buy a caravan. 3:23:24.800 --> 3:23:26.920 Caravan. It was hot, but. 3:23:28.160 --> 3:23:29.760 Family, not an MPV. 3:23:30.120 --> 3:23:37.440 The dog. Yeah there, I had a kid. 3:23:37.760 --> 3:23:41.200 I had a kid at sixteen. I'm as you see 3:23:41.200 --> 3:23:44.320 what I'm saying. I think, how you think I just 3:23:44.440 --> 3:23:45.119 read something. 3:23:47.320 --> 3:23:47.600 I got? 3:23:47.720 --> 3:23:47.879 Yeah? 3:23:47.879 --> 3:23:50.680 I know this girl got him thinking like that. 3:23:51.280 --> 3:23:54.880 Anyway, when you get persuaded to do something other like 3:23:55.040 --> 3:23:59.199 buy more. You shouldn't be persuading nobody to buy more. Damn, 3:23:59.440 --> 3:24:01.320 you ain't even work over your principle yet. 3:24:03.320 --> 3:24:04.600 But you're talking on the level. 3:24:04.879 --> 3:24:07.959 There's not another level because it's just something we shouldn't 3:24:07.959 --> 3:24:11.160 tell people should nobody. There's not another level you should 3:24:11.200 --> 3:24:11.640 not be working on. 3:24:12.120 --> 3:24:13.280 Generation should be at this. 3:24:14.280 --> 3:24:17.760 Yeah, yeah, hopefully so anyway down now is like now 3:24:17.800 --> 3:24:19.879 to go back to my dude from Sorry, I'm excited, 3:24:20.280 --> 3:24:22.840 but this guy was telling me today the New York 3:24:22.840 --> 3:24:24.440 gets talked with their hands. I'm from New York. I'm like, 3:24:24.800 --> 3:24:25.600 I guess we talk what I. 3:24:28.560 --> 3:24:29.039 You can't help. 3:24:30.040 --> 3:24:33.240 The whole question was the regret, Oh yeah, do you 3:24:33.320 --> 3:24:36.879 have I don't want you to day Yeah for what. 3:24:37.080 --> 3:24:40.080 From what for? Prey? Regret that you can help a 3:24:40.320 --> 3:24:41.840 young person coming by? 3:24:42.040 --> 3:24:45.400 Yeah, I would say you yeah, I would say and 3:24:45.480 --> 3:24:49.200 now and nowadays I would say family first, because so 3:24:49.280 --> 3:24:53.240 many athletes, what's happening as athletes entertainers. There's no knowledge 3:24:53.280 --> 3:24:56.600 transferring back if you look at the I guess the 3:24:56.680 --> 3:24:58.920 boss got right, and it's okay to talk about it 3:24:59.000 --> 3:25:00.520 like you can't hit on somebody have it more than 3:25:00.600 --> 3:25:02.760 I just want to say that, but you know, the 3:25:02.840 --> 3:25:07.640 wealth got trillions of dollars and uh ownership of you know, 3:25:07.920 --> 3:25:11.360 call it the white angle, Saxon and Jewish right. And 3:25:11.480 --> 3:25:14.280 then next is Indian. It's only this is public knowledge 3:25:14.280 --> 3:25:17.400 because I just read it online, right, and then Blacks, 3:25:17.640 --> 3:25:19.320 I looked at it and there was nowhere to be found. 3:25:19.760 --> 3:25:22.959 So that's not even in you know, under under management, 3:25:23.080 --> 3:25:26.040 not even management, because we spend right. We spent a 3:25:26.080 --> 3:25:29.840 lot of money. So from that perspective for right, you know, 3:25:30.040 --> 3:25:32.440 from that perspective, and then also I think people deserves, 3:25:32.920 --> 3:25:34.360 you know, right to have a great end of life. 3:25:35.360 --> 3:25:37.320 I was the first support of r f K and 3:25:38.040 --> 3:25:39.440 Metalworale Peace from Tel Street. 3:25:41.040 --> 3:25:42.200 That's Robert Kennedy. 3:25:42.520 --> 3:25:45.600 But you don't let me talk about let me talk 3:25:45.640 --> 3:25:51.160 about life, coach. I'm not gonna cut you off. I 3:25:51.240 --> 3:25:55.040 wanted to talk about why I mentioned that. Okay, why 3:25:55.120 --> 3:25:57.960 I mentioned that was because they reached out to me. 3:25:58.080 --> 3:26:00.360 I'm doing a lot of positive stuff, and I think 3:26:00.400 --> 3:26:02.240 you reserved the right to give back. No matter what 3:26:02.280 --> 3:26:03.560 you've been through your life, you deserved the right to 3:26:03.600 --> 3:26:05.400 get back. So I was the first one. I was 3:26:05.440 --> 3:26:08.240 the first supporter of the first entertainment sports. Look at 3:26:08.280 --> 3:26:11.240 it on YouTube and you'll see me introduce the VP. 3:26:12.040 --> 3:26:15.000 You'll see me introduced his VP, and then what what 3:26:15.120 --> 3:26:19.280 you'll also see is mister Trump. I'm saying this as 3:26:19.320 --> 3:26:22.600 a I'm an independent voter publicly, but you also see 3:26:22.640 --> 3:26:24.600 them saying that they Man, I don't feel like going 3:26:24.640 --> 3:26:26.400 to get SORRFK. I don't want to get too much 3:26:26.400 --> 3:26:27.840 into that, but I do. But from my from my 3:26:28.440 --> 3:26:30.400 and I was the first. So from that perspective, I 3:26:30.440 --> 3:26:31.520 asked him could I be his VP? 3:26:32.840 --> 3:26:33.920 You know, be VP? 3:26:34.200 --> 3:26:38.320 Yeah, that's my guy? And what did he do? It 3:26:38.480 --> 3:26:41.959 was one of those things that is not realistic, it's 3:26:42.000 --> 3:26:45.800 not really. What I'm saying is from a health perspective, 3:26:46.640 --> 3:26:48.000 you got to get in where you fit in and 3:26:48.080 --> 3:26:50.760 politics and social impacts. It's not going to be perfect. 3:26:51.120 --> 3:26:52.760 But if you're trying to give back, you want to 3:26:52.800 --> 3:26:55.920 give back at the highest level. Right, So if that's 3:26:55.959 --> 3:26:58.480 the case, Like, I love the fact that we should 3:26:58.480 --> 3:27:02.560 be eating healthy. You know, you know, I've also listened 3:27:02.800 --> 3:27:07.080 also washing doctor Sebby right, and I learned how to 3:27:07.160 --> 3:27:10.720 eat healthy. So now it's like it's about us. We're 3:27:10.760 --> 3:27:12.640 not in competition. Why we got to be in competition 3:27:12.760 --> 3:27:16.000 with you. I mean, we're just getting there. So anyway, 3:27:16.560 --> 3:27:19.920 you know, I was excited to like your Math Hoffer, 3:27:19.959 --> 3:27:20.959 that's my guy, asked math. 3:27:21.240 --> 3:27:21.440 Math. 3:27:21.520 --> 3:27:23.880 Had a lot of conversations, you know what I mean. 3:27:23.920 --> 3:27:26.680 I gotta I gotta record with what's the guy that 3:27:26.800 --> 3:27:29.880 battled the best battle of sorry murder boot when I 3:27:29.920 --> 3:27:30.440 battle him? 3:27:31.080 --> 3:27:31.879 Loaded? 3:27:31.959 --> 3:27:32.199 Sorry? 3:27:32.240 --> 3:27:32.440 Sorry? 3:27:32.480 --> 3:27:33.119 Loaded? Loaded? 3:27:33.320 --> 3:27:33.640 Sorry? 3:27:34.520 --> 3:27:37.120 I got a record with Loaded. I love Loaded career. 3:27:37.160 --> 3:27:39.280 We talked about a lot of stuff, you know what 3:27:39.320 --> 3:27:43.039 I mean, But yeah, this is a great opportunity. Anyway, he's. 3:27:48.600 --> 3:27:50.440 Because because this is what I want to know, Like 3:27:50.480 --> 3:27:55.640 when you squashed the beef with the guy right from Green? 3:27:55.760 --> 3:27:58.520 What was his name? Green? He's a squash, Yeah, the 3:27:58.840 --> 3:28:02.360 guy that you thought through the at you sorry, yes 3:28:02.440 --> 3:28:06.760 John Green? The brawl? Yeah, did you squash the beat 3:28:07.400 --> 3:28:14.280 before you won the championship? All after? Because because you think, like, 3:28:14.800 --> 3:28:16.560 was that good karma coming back to you? Like you 3:28:16.760 --> 3:28:19.959 reaching out to him and you're development in a relationship 3:28:20.000 --> 3:28:21.520 and then all of a sudden you win the champ 3:28:21.600 --> 3:28:22.720 Then you win the championship. 3:28:22.760 --> 3:28:25.040 You think that was good karma? What do you do? 3:28:25.160 --> 3:28:25.720 Am I asking? 3:28:27.360 --> 3:28:31.040 Yeah, I gotta let you ask your question. I've seen Nori, 3:28:31.800 --> 3:28:34.080 and please remind me of his question. Please, I just 3:28:34.120 --> 3:28:35.800 wanna say something. So I've seen nor when he first 3:28:35.840 --> 3:28:36.400 started the show. 3:28:36.920 --> 3:28:37.720 I got a pain. 3:28:41.680 --> 3:28:44.720 And and then Noor will always cut people off, and 3:28:44.959 --> 3:28:47.400 I was and I was like, why don't always turn 3:28:47.480 --> 3:28:51.480 people off? Right, I'm like, so, I'm like, why is 3:28:51.520 --> 3:28:53.800 this jump you off? But I'm trying to pay attention. 3:28:54.240 --> 3:28:55.200 So I said, oh, he's trying to. 3:28:55.240 --> 3:28:58.600 Keep the show. Said, He's trying to keep the show moving. 3:28:59.080 --> 3:29:02.080 You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yes, I'm watching the show, 3:29:03.320 --> 3:29:03.680 you know. 3:29:03.800 --> 3:29:07.320 But but but but do you think that because because 3:29:07.360 --> 3:29:09.680 because when you squashed the beef with the dude, the 3:29:09.760 --> 3:29:13.840 one that through the beer, that was before you won 3:29:13.920 --> 3:29:14.520 a championship. 3:29:14.600 --> 3:29:19.640 Correct, Yeah, So what happened was shot Yeah, yeah, yeah, 3:29:20.440 --> 3:29:21.480 I wanted. 3:29:26.640 --> 3:29:29.680 Because because I want to go get it again. 3:29:31.320 --> 3:29:43.160 This my kill. Cure, that's the killer, get your life. 3:29:43.560 --> 3:29:48.840 So so you think that square, you take that, You 3:29:48.959 --> 3:29:53.760 think that I got to do? You think that you 3:29:53.920 --> 3:29:57.520 squashing the beef for him it was good, calm up 3:29:57.560 --> 3:29:59.360 because you run a championship. 3:29:59.480 --> 3:30:01.600 So what happened was I already knew I was trying 3:30:01.640 --> 3:30:02.920 to do all this positive stuff. 3:30:03.000 --> 3:30:03.879 Okay, so. 3:30:05.520 --> 3:30:13.840 Classic, oh yeah yeah, Pink Carter. So for me, it 3:30:13.959 --> 3:30:17.560 was like, there wasn't the career I envisioned when I 3:30:17.640 --> 3:30:23.480 knew I was gonna prove. So now to answer your question, yeah, 3:30:24.640 --> 3:30:25.119 the question. 3:30:25.240 --> 3:30:25.880 It was the album. 3:30:28.200 --> 3:30:30.760 Yeah, like do you think Washington was that good call? 3:30:30.920 --> 3:30:32.200 And that led to you, Well what. 3:30:32.280 --> 3:30:34.640 Happened was like during that time, people were trying to 3:30:34.640 --> 3:30:36.880 make it white black, Like I'm just trying to do 3:30:37.000 --> 3:30:39.720 business and I'm just trying to do philanthropy. So now 3:30:39.800 --> 3:30:42.960 I got this drama with some dude that then you 3:30:43.000 --> 3:30:43.800 got a whole nother story. 3:30:43.840 --> 3:30:45.040 That's so many stories. 3:30:45.879 --> 3:30:48.640 I'm escaping Ben Wallace, who's my guy? Shout at Ben 3:30:49.720 --> 3:30:52.800 and you know he's upset. But when I went to Ben, 3:30:53.240 --> 3:30:55.400 I'm the sucker actually because when I went to him, 3:30:55.400 --> 3:30:57.640 you'll see say so I said, sorry, I'm gonna admit it. 3:30:58.160 --> 3:30:59.920 I didn't want no problem with Big Ben. 3:31:00.280 --> 3:31:00.680 You know what I mean. 3:31:00.720 --> 3:31:02.360 I'm not I'm not afraid that he's like Charles look 3:31:02.480 --> 3:31:04.680 like I would have problem with Ben Wallace Wallace. 3:31:04.959 --> 3:31:07.960 I'm not saying I'm afraid. I'm too sixty five, like 3:31:08.680 --> 3:31:09.480 I want a problem back. 3:31:09.600 --> 3:31:12.039 So you'll see me go like this. I mean to say, 3:31:12.080 --> 3:31:14.160 like sorry, but I ain't even doing that. But honestly 3:31:14.240 --> 3:31:17.320 it wasn't a hard fell So then so then that happened, 3:31:17.720 --> 3:31:20.760 and then the brawl takes off. So now you know, 3:31:20.879 --> 3:31:23.040 I'm just I'm trying to escape. So I'm laying on 3:31:23.040 --> 3:31:26.160 a scorers table. I said, okay at some point, but 3:31:26.280 --> 3:31:27.200 at that point he was wrong. 3:31:27.600 --> 3:31:30.360 Huh, at that point you was wrong wrong, laying on 3:31:30.520 --> 3:31:31.600 top of the scores table. 3:31:31.920 --> 3:31:33.520 Listen you listen, listen to that. 3:31:34.959 --> 3:31:35.600 It's very cool. 3:31:36.240 --> 3:31:36.480 Ship. 3:31:37.440 --> 3:31:43.520 Yeah trying. That's not no ship. It's okay, but very important. 3:31:43.800 --> 3:31:46.640 It's the way we view life, right, and that was 3:31:46.800 --> 3:31:50.960 view like that. You see what I'm saying. I don't 3:31:50.959 --> 3:31:52.200 think I would later if I if I wanted to 3:31:52.240 --> 3:31:54.160 get it pop out, will get it poping. I'm laying 3:31:54.160 --> 3:31:54.760 on a scoring saved. 3:31:54.760 --> 3:32:01.240 I'm just trying to chill. I do it and hitting. 3:32:03.240 --> 3:32:05.240 Y'all don't know what's going through my head. I don't 3:32:05.280 --> 3:32:06.680 know what was going through y'all head. 3:32:07.720 --> 3:32:09.280 But people with cherish thev on, I. 3:32:09.320 --> 3:32:12.440 Don't cheer it on. I lost the Cason, another Defensive 3:32:12.440 --> 3:32:16.080 Player of the Year, and another All Star and another whatever. 3:32:16.280 --> 3:32:20.400 Just count up just money, so definitely such something. When 3:32:20.400 --> 3:32:24.120 that happened years later, I was Sacramento. We told that 3:32:24.160 --> 3:32:30.080 whole story. I still was depressed because of this thing. 3:32:30.800 --> 3:32:32.520 So when you look at the Lakers Championship, the first 3:32:32.520 --> 3:32:33.240 thing I did was thank the. 3:32:33.280 --> 3:32:34.480 Pacers, you know what I mean. 3:32:35.160 --> 3:32:37.480 And you look at the interview. You got to see 3:32:37.520 --> 3:32:40.400 it online. Yo, shout out to the paces because I 3:32:40.440 --> 3:32:42.440 always wanted to win the championship, so I ain't feel 3:32:42.760 --> 3:32:43.600 I had to let them know. 3:32:44.440 --> 3:32:46.440 You my guys, you know what I mean. 3:32:47.240 --> 3:32:51.320 Suching with John Green something to jump here with John Green, 3:32:51.360 --> 3:32:53.160 it was like I was still depressed, and I said, 3:32:53.160 --> 3:32:56.000 I need to stop having so much resentment because everybody's 3:32:56.000 --> 3:32:56.560 saying they hate me. 3:32:56.600 --> 3:32:57.120 It's on TV. 3:32:57.240 --> 3:32:59.320 Everybody's saying they hate you. Like what you hate me too. 3:32:59.320 --> 3:33:02.480 I won't even know I think you hate it. It's 3:33:02.480 --> 3:33:04.840 like it's just crazy right right, which is a fight. 3:33:04.879 --> 3:33:07.160 It's like it's somebody I'm used to fighting the game 3:33:07.240 --> 3:33:09.720 over that ship, you know what I mean. I saw 3:33:11.040 --> 3:33:14.600 I saw, I saw, I saw Lady Drugs. I was 3:33:14.720 --> 3:33:16.720 right there and told I saw lad Street Drugs. They 3:33:16.800 --> 3:33:20.200 both their time, Like my god, I was dear right. 3:33:20.280 --> 3:33:22.520 So it's like I'm used to and their friends. So 3:33:22.640 --> 3:33:24.400 with John Green, I'm like, hold on, I don't got 3:33:24.480 --> 3:33:26.920 that much drama as everybody's saying. With this guy, we 3:33:27.040 --> 3:33:29.360 had to fight, you know what I mean. I don't 3:33:29.400 --> 3:33:34.640 hate all everybody. So anyway, we became tight a dude 3:33:34.640 --> 3:33:38.360 who lost me fifty whatever you want to name it. 3:33:39.000 --> 3:33:41.920 I don't know what to name this. I'm not holding 3:33:41.959 --> 3:33:43.480 over me and you were having to fight. 3:33:43.560 --> 3:33:46.240 But all the people, you guy, you the people who 3:33:46.680 --> 3:33:48.000 made certain decisions like get. 3:33:47.920 --> 3:33:48.200 To know me. 3:33:48.240 --> 3:33:50.080 You don't even know me, right, you know what I mean? 3:33:50.200 --> 3:33:52.440 So for now, But then I also said earlier that 3:33:52.560 --> 3:33:54.720 I think they made the right decision because because of 3:33:54.760 --> 3:33:57.480 what happened. But but I wanted to say, and then 3:33:57.480 --> 3:33:59.760 people tried to make it a race for it was 3:33:59.840 --> 3:34:03.040 what it was, media headlines, something off the backs. To me, 3:34:03.440 --> 3:34:06.440 we ain't about to get white versus black to get 3:34:06.480 --> 3:34:12.039 one together, right, I don't have a problem. Yes, it's 3:34:12.080 --> 3:34:14.520 that the John Green, and this is how me and 3:34:14.680 --> 3:34:16.880 John became friends. You should have us on your show. 3:34:17.280 --> 3:34:18.040 That's crazy. 3:34:20.520 --> 3:34:22.560 But check it out as I'm doing as I'm the 3:34:22.640 --> 3:34:26.520 first athlete entertainer to do a podcast. Right, If you 3:34:26.560 --> 3:34:31.440 look at the years. That content is cool? How is 3:34:31.480 --> 3:34:34.760 that content not cool because it's not your because it's 3:34:34.760 --> 3:34:36.720 not where you want a program today. So anyway, I 3:34:36.760 --> 3:34:40.200 see my got newy. This is a great opportunity to 3:34:40.320 --> 3:34:42.400 talk about that. That's dope content. 3:34:44.280 --> 3:34:44.320 Me. 3:34:45.280 --> 3:34:47.680 But why do you not wanting to meet John Green 3:34:47.680 --> 3:34:50.320 and Ben Waller's talk about the bro that's for its history. 3:34:50.400 --> 3:34:51.600 That's your chance. 3:35:06.360 --> 3:35:07.360 But we can chill, we can chill. 3:35:07.400 --> 3:35:07.840 We can tell you. 3:35:10.120 --> 3:35:12.480 I ain't yeah yeah. 3:35:15.480 --> 3:35:17.160 Drives, and then we can tell you. 3:35:20.520 --> 3:35:23.760 Who's Drink Champs is a Drink Champs ll C production 3:35:24.120 --> 3:35:27.080 hosts and executive producers n O r E and d 3:35:27.280 --> 3:35:30.280 j e f f N. Listen to Drink Champs on 3:35:30.360 --> 3:35:35.320 Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 3:35:36.400 --> 3:35:38.840 Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs 3:35:38.920 --> 3:35:41.280 hosted by yours truly, d j e f N and 3:35:41.480 --> 3:35:43.520 n O r E. 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