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Speaker 1: He is drinks chess, motherfucking podcast makes.

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Speaker 2: He's a legends every Queens rapper.

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Speaker 3: He ain't agreed as your boy, and he's a Miami

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Speaker 3: hip hop pioneer.

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Speaker 4: Put up his dj E f N.

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Speaker 5: Together they drink it up with some.

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Speaker 1: Of the biggest players, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: And the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one source.

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Speaker 1: For drunk drink chans mo posty Days New Year's c

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Speaker 1: that's his time for drink champions, drink up, mother would

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Speaker 1: it could be hoping he's gonna stop your boy. N

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Speaker 1: A O N A A what up his dj E

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Speaker 1: f N? And this is drink camps, y'all make some

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Speaker 1: of the man. I know, I know this dude for

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Speaker 1: a long, long, long long time. He is a champion

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Speaker 1: or All Star, defensive, all time player, and he got

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Speaker 1: a bunch of whole other shit. But I'm somewhat anxious

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Speaker 1: to get into this interview.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna get right into it.

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Speaker 1: So whether you call him Ron artest Ron Ron Metalworld Peace,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna call him something.

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Speaker 4: Motherfucker.

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Speaker 5: I didn't realize.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize when I was I was having fun

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Speaker 1: at googleing you, I didn't realize, like, didn't you break

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Speaker 1: Jordan's ribs at.

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Speaker 5: Nineteen years old?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I didn't realize.

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Speaker 1: That because the way they promoted it, it was like

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Speaker 1: it was recent.

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Speaker 5: So this is when you was a kid, when.

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Speaker 1: I was just in Chicago, just Chicago, so you wasn't

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Speaker 5: I just yet I signed, just signed to the Bulls.

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Speaker 1: So this is a this is a practice game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, summertime, okay, So summertime.

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Speaker 1: So okay, okay, and Jordan's tried to block you. So

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Speaker 1: he was posting me up. Okay.

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Speaker 4: If you remember when Jordan came back, he averaged twenty

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Speaker 4: five that year, right, so before that I put Jordan

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Speaker 4: down three months he was going he was her average

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Speaker 4: third game Tony that year. If it wasn't for me

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Speaker 4: breaking his ribs. Now they reported it, they said, yeah,

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Speaker 4: so you know, I get home next day, I got

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Speaker 4: drafted by Chicago. Right on the headlines one on test

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Speaker 4: how to fight with Michael, Jordan touched him and broke

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Speaker 4: his rib. So I'm sick. I don't even know what

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Speaker 4: to do. I'm nineteen and I love Jordan's So then

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Speaker 4: I didn't go to practice for the next two days.

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Speaker 4: I was just like depressing. My agent called me Mark

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Speaker 4: Bartleston at the time. He was like, you know, you

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Speaker 4: gotta get to the workouse. Well, I said, you know,

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Speaker 4: the media just said I broke Jordan ring and I

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Speaker 4: don't even I can't even move out the bed. I'm

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Speaker 4: just like sick. Anyway, Jordan called me two times in

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Speaker 4: my life.

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Speaker 1: He called you again after the fight. Let's let's just

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Speaker 4: He said, He said, hey, man, it's all right. You

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Speaker 4: know you were just playing had the play was he

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Speaker 4: was holding me. And the problem with Jordan when you

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Speaker 4: let him get the ball, that's for your problems. So

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Speaker 4: I'm denying him in the Summer League and he's like,

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Speaker 4: I'm denying him this way. He's in front of me,

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Speaker 4: holding me this way. So I had to move his

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Speaker 4: the ris. But I love Jordan y yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's dope. So I'm gonna tell you listen,

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Speaker 1: I've seen you very I used to go to Queens

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Speaker 1: Bridge with my friend named l J. You know l J.

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Speaker 5: You don't know l J.

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Speaker 1: He for me up the Pone building, Yeah, the Pone

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Speaker 1: building because I went to school with him and I

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Speaker 1: for my hood name shot Meek and Laky and Lakey.

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Speaker 1: They brought me to a place called the Terror Dome, right,

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Speaker 1: and the Terrordome was the Terror Dome, right, just you

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Speaker 1: know self a planneatory right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I remember me you seeing you, me being out

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Speaker 1: and I seeing you late night practicing with your pops

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Speaker 1: a case oh greatness. Like I didn't realize was watching

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Speaker 1: They say that a lot of people don't have father figures.

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Speaker 5: You had not only a father figure.

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Speaker 1: I seen your father scream on drug dealers, bro, Like

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Speaker 1: I never saw that before, like to get to y'all

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Speaker 5: But I did think what was going through your mind

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Speaker 1: Night and day, like on Twelfth Street, practicing, practicing, going

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Speaker 1: hard was what was one now?

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Speaker 4: I think like eight years old, my dad introduced me

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Speaker 4: to basketball on Twelfth Street.

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Speaker 4: You know sometimes you'll see the big guys playing, but

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Speaker 4: that I'm gonna let you expel, expend your energy playing hoops.

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Speaker 4: But when I got older, it was just something trying

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Speaker 1: You know everybody.

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Speaker 4: You know that everybody's playing ball, but they don't know

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Speaker 1: A lot of the ballers were.

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Speaker 4: Hustlers, extremely intelligent ballers like high love you.

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Speaker 5: Say Yami was the ball I didn't even know.

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Speaker 1: That's like extremely Jammy just from the streets, rest in peace.

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Speaker 4: Intelligent point guard. Wow, man, you get ask anybody. They

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Speaker 5: Twins Jamal and jam.

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Speaker 7: Three great shooters, half big fundamentals. And we all learned

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Speaker 7: from the same coaches. Well me Business Smith, Vincus Smith. Yea,

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Speaker 7: we all learned the same coaches. But you know, some

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Speaker 1: Of course, one of one of my favorite things about

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Speaker 1: you is I believe if after you won the game,

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Speaker 1: what is your greatest player you ever played against. And

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Speaker 4: To listen.

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Speaker 1: So I used to play with Mike Chatfield and we

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Speaker 5: The team I was on sucked.

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Speaker 1: We talked it was crackheads, dope bees, like we had

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Speaker 1: I had knew how Mike Chatfield was from the streets.

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Speaker 1: I did all of my favor to get him on

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Speaker 1: you can't even tell that he's a baller. But then

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Speaker 1: if you look at his arms, he got long arms,

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Speaker 1: and you ain't getting the ball from him, you're not stilling.

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Speaker 1: When you said that, I was like, this is the

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Speaker 1: expecting to sake Jordan and he said, Mike Chatfield.

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Speaker 4: How I tried to embody the stuff that he taught me,

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Speaker 4: because you know, Mike went to jail at sixteen, right right,

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Speaker 4: I became jail.

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Speaker 8: That's what.

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Speaker 4: I became the best in the hood. When Mike went

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Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know that, so it might be me thirty

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Speaker 4: two to two in the res, right, I heard that

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Speaker 4: and Street. Oh no, he's from Vernon. He's from Vernon, Okay,

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Speaker 4: Michael and Vernon. I mean Mike was playing the men

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Speaker 4: playing with always right. So so Mike was like one

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Speaker 4: my head the day play against Lebron James on Christmas

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Speaker 4: two thousand and nine because he got he passed away

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Speaker 4: around the holidays and I just wanted to. I always

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Speaker 4: showed him love. I always showed him love. But Mike

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Speaker 4: Chaff was one of those guys and Capone, I didn't hope.

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Speaker 5: Before we get that.

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Speaker 1: I did know Mike, Mike cap whoever did a chance

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Speaker 4: So when I was in Indiana in my prime, I

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Speaker 4: So I was in me. Mike, his brother Eric Chaft,

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Speaker 4: Phil Grady Jesse from nas Block was also Saint John's

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Speaker 4: was a love. Okay, we were all out there because

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Speaker 4: we was hooping in the pace at Alimo.

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Speaker 1: Actually he got a low.

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Speaker 4: Dribble too, yeah, and he was just all, who've been

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Speaker 4: you know, we're drinking a gallon in the other day. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think that takes a while, but it was fun

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Speaker 4: to spend time with Mike, right, you know. And you

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Speaker 4: I got a different love.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, me too, And he was still knife but you

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Speaker 5: saw you can see that he lost it right right,

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Speaker 5: right right, But it was it was always when he.

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Speaker 1: Came home from jail.

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Speaker 4: This is he was twenty. I'm twenty, he was twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's when he came home because we was again,

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Speaker 1: yeah he came, he came, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I

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Speaker 1: thought that was so honorable you because you could have

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Speaker 1: easily said Lebron. You could easily said uh uh, Jordans,

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Speaker 1: you could have easily and you said Mike Chatfield. Mike

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Speaker 4: Either of these dudes would have been ready for Mike,

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Speaker 4: I'll be honest, but but his heart different at different level. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he would he would have.

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Speaker 1: Just found in the league, right, wow, Okay, I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about a brown A little bit. You take component want

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 4: Want to get yo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Capone was nice. I played on capone team in PS

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Speaker 4: one eleven. We had the green shirts. Havoc was on

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Speaker 4: the Burgundy team. He had the Burgundy shirts.

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Speaker 5: Havoc wasn't good though it was not. I haven't was

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Speaker 5: the best on his take.

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Speaker 1: Just play.

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Speaker 4: Had it. And I remember because I was a kid,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I haven't had the

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Speaker 4: Burgandy shirts. Kill a shot, to kill a shot. He

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Speaker 4: was on the yellow team. He loved the yellow shirt.

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Speaker 4: And then it was guys twelve. You know, twelve twelve

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Speaker 4: had the red shirt, and so it's fourteen. You played

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Speaker 4: other like four times. But in the All Star Game,

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Speaker 4: Tom had sixty nine yo sixty nine yeah, yeah, left man.

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Speaker 4: And I was watching it and I was a young kid,

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Speaker 4: and I remember watching.

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Speaker 1: It like dang, and that was it.

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Speaker 4: Like you never seen Poem play. You see him playing.

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Speaker 4: He might take a shot on the block. Yeah he

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Speaker 4: I just come to yo, all I like one shot.

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Speaker 1: Well being compoons and DFI the same place, me and

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Speaker 1: cop On before Mike Caffield got there. Me and Capon

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Speaker 1: Compone shot my eyes out, man. I was like, I

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Speaker 5: I was from Vincess Smith.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It was nice, yeah, nice.

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Speaker 1: I got locked up with me and then I got

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Speaker 1: where Mike Chatfield. That was crazy and like I said,

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Speaker 5: He was nice.

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Speaker 1: So I cheated the whole jail. I was like, yo,

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Speaker 5: All Right, So I'm bout through real quick.

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Speaker 1: First off, you.

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Speaker 5: Went to Saint Rita.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I played that.

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Speaker 5: Okay, what is that?

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Speaker 5: That was Junior High or Junior High.

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Speaker 4: Saint Riders is like when you're nine years old, Okay,

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Speaker 1: And that's like a capital school.

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Speaker 4: It made a lot of players that was from New

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Speaker 4: went to WOW in Jersey. In Jersey too, who well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a willer in our life growing up.

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Speaker 1: Wow, so boom. This is something that uh, I always

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Speaker 1: said to him you ain't ready for me, and he

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Speaker 1: for you. Like y'all developed that certain amount of respect.

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Speaker 1: But I always thought it was Kobe who called you.

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Speaker 1: I found out it was doctor doctor Bus who called you. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Kobe would not call me to join his team.

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Speaker 4: This story wrong.

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Speaker 1: I always thought Kobe because right now, right you know,

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Speaker 1: So everyone is saying that Jalen Bruston it takes a

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Speaker 1: it down like it was it was? It was it

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Speaker 1: w Hotel after the SLS, Butch met at the So

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Speaker 1: describe to me how this happens. Because the Lakers just

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Speaker 1: beat y'all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they just beat I think, yeah, Ming broke's foot

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Speaker 4: and then they beat us right right.

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Speaker 5: And then so you you you sit down with him.

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Speaker 1: And then because because your agent calls you first, right,

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Speaker 1: your agent said that Lakers.

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Speaker 5: Wants to go to speak to you, and you're like,

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Speaker 5: what the fuck?

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Speaker 1: You're kind of mad at them, a little bit like

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Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to get done.

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Speaker 1: So how is this conversation like in person with doctor Boss?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, so I was at the SLS, I

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Speaker 4: was foul Monday, I was rid.

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Speaker 1: Okay with you, and then we was in the car

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Speaker 1: and when Nick Korn.

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Speaker 4: Was there, we was just leaving. I say, yo, we

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Speaker 4: got to pull over right now. Okay to my agent

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Speaker 4: on the line, which David Bauman, and he hit me up.

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Speaker 4: He's like, he's like, hey, the Lakers want you.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: Keep in mind, we just went the walk and we

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Speaker 4: come from arrow where we're not We're not to play

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Speaker 4: for the Lakers. You you're staying with your team. You

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Speaker 4: don't care if you want a title or not. So

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Speaker 4: when so when they said that, I was like, what

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Speaker 4: the fuck do they want?

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Speaker 1: Right? And these niggas like you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm mean? What?

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Speaker 4: And then he said now he went you on your team,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh. Immediately I became a fan and

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Speaker 4: this is crazy.

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Speaker 1: I said, played together as kids, kid, this is this

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Speaker 1: is this is a very fairy tale story, like wow,

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Speaker 4: And then I'm just like, you know, me and Lamar,

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Speaker 4: Eltin and get it and it go just like that,

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Speaker 4: you know, And then Kobe's there, who me? I love Kobe,

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Speaker 4: you know, what I mean, no matter, And I told him, Yo,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go holler at you. I'm not gonna like

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Speaker 4: you in the game, but yo, I admire you like

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Speaker 4: I don't love Kobe. So so when I was all

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Speaker 4: going through my head, I'm like, well, I got a

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Speaker 4: chance to play against a team that's just like the Bulls,

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Speaker 4: like you got Phil Jackson was there, Kobe, that's m J.

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Speaker 4: You got Lamar, that's cool, coach, you got me. I'm

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Speaker 4: robbing a little bit better offensive player, a lot better. Sorry,

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Speaker 4: He's all and I was just like it was just

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Speaker 4: that morning he said, doctor Bus the Bus, and then

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Speaker 4: we had we had a breakfast and he was like, listen,

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be able to pay you what you're worth,

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Speaker 4: right think, But he said I want you here. And

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I said you telling me that whatever, we're

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Speaker 4: good because you got to think about it. You averaging

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Speaker 4: twenty five, you know in a semi final, almost beat

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Speaker 4: the Lakers. I want a championship in your prime. Those

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Speaker 4: those numbers and that I was twenty so numbers at

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Speaker 4: that time. It's like, you know, twelve years you know, eleven, ten, twelve,

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Speaker 4: whatever the number was at that time. Now it's for X,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I was like, now whatever,

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Speaker 4: because my life is easy anyway.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: I don't wear Jerry I.

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Speaker 1: Did, but my life is so simple.

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Speaker 4: I lived in Indiana. I'm like, I'll take that.

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is this is easy in l A.

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Speaker 1: He just me in l A.

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Speaker 4: I don't even need to leave, all right. I said

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Speaker 4: yes right that night to the club.

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Speaker 1: So y'all made that deal right then and there at breakfast?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: And okay, wow, yeah right then and there doctor bus

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Speaker 5: So all right.

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Speaker 1: So I'm asking this out of here. Do you know

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Speaker 1: you and Kobe just went at it?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Do you feel obligated to tell him like.

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Speaker 1: Yo, I'm now or or was it accepted that practice

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Speaker 1: or something like that? How did how did this news

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Speaker 4: I got to imagine they told him they didn't tell them? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and Kobe Minka. I know Kobe, like he's like,

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Speaker 4: all right, cool, if you get it done or not,

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Speaker 4: Kobe won't give him ship, all right, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, Like try and do it and me and

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Speaker 4: and we had a relationship because we used to be

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Speaker 4: talked a little bit. But back then you don't talk

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Speaker 4: to your opponent. You don't go on the lunch, you

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Speaker 4: ain't doing stuff, you know what I mean. But we

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Speaker 4: did like give each other, you know, and then I

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Speaker 4: then he'd like damn. And so we we grow respect

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Speaker 4: like that. But yeah, it was dope. He might have

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Speaker 4: called me after something like that, maybe briefly like he

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Speaker 4: did he said, you know, don't bring that silly ship ahead.

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Speaker 1: But that what he wanted you ball, because it was

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Speaker 1: like it was like I think I've seen you on

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Speaker 1: Brian Scott Show and one of the guys was like this,

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Speaker 1: this was the perfect piece that the Lakers was missing.

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Speaker 5: And I believe that to be true. You know what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I believe that to be true because like Kobe is

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Speaker 1: a doll. I'm not saying that other people wasn't. Dogs

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Speaker 1: Lamar was a doll. But you needed that front line

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Speaker 1: all ship, and I believe you replaced that. Do you

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you look at when I played against him,

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Speaker 4: seriousness on YouTube, right, and you'll see like you won't

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Speaker 4: see a lot of this, right. And when what you'll

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Speaker 4: you'll see everybody head turn my direction right because you

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Speaker 4: see hody guarding me that suit right, right, you understand,

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Speaker 4: right right, because because I'm too sixty to sixty five

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Speaker 4: They put a power forward on me. He too small,

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Speaker 4: right right, put the sin on me. He too small,

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Speaker 4: And I'll beg with them just to show them they're

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Speaker 4: too small.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I'm not even gonna take you out,

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Speaker 4: or I can take him out and I can shoot.

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Speaker 4: So I was guy was I was torching them, and

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Speaker 4: I was torching them.

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Speaker 5: So so let me ask you.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people when they get to Philip Jackson,

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Speaker 1: they have problems with what is the triangle office?

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Speaker 5: Or does the trifle offense?

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Speaker 1: Okay, people actually said it's hard to Actually, you got

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Speaker 1: to be smart. So for a person that like, like

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Speaker 1: you know Kenyanison tournaments and like you know, and cony

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Speaker 4: Is it's all angles? So it's a thousand and one options.

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Speaker 4: There is no play calling and you read it. So

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Speaker 4: it's like when you move, I move, Okay, you know,

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Speaker 4: if the ball moving, you move, it's gonna it's gonna

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Speaker 4: initiate a different format.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: Kobe keeping he didn't run a triangle a lot. He

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Speaker 4: to triangle, you know. Around Kobe's movement he played Iso,

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Speaker 4: he was iceoing. But we're still doing the triangle. So

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Speaker 4: everybody's still moving according to it. And when they when

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 4: Guy, it was like like they got to get this

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Speaker 4: But you got to understand, I was also architecture, so

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Speaker 4: I got this in the month. Oh wow, whole ship.

443
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,480
Speaker 1: How people who still don't get it, they still don't

444
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,879
Speaker 1: get it because they actually said it's like it's like.

445
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 4: Like like my math test and yeah you gotta Yeah,

446
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,880
Speaker 4: it takes about two years. It takes about two years

447
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 4: to learn the triangle, like to really adapt it. Wow,

448
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 4: But if you would assist him, like Golden the Warriors,

449
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 4: they're running pieces of the triangle. They running pieces of

450
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 4: the triangle. But they were together for he long, you

451
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So when they run in the

452
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 4: triangle now it starts ninety and it starts ninety four feet,

453
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 4: meaning like when you take the ball out after somebody scored. Nowadays,

454
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 4: that's when the triangle starts. Back in the day, just

455
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 4: started after half court And is.

456
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Speaker 1: That some Phil Jackson and Ship or all the other

457
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 1: teams are running too.

458
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,479
Speaker 4: His text winner text Winner Phil Jackson started with texts right,

459
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,440
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And then and then Phil

460
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,120
Speaker 4: took it to the next level, and then Steve Kirk

461
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 4: came from that, and then Steve Kerr goes to the Warriors,

462
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 4: I mean to the Spurs. So now he's getting Popovich

463
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 4: and Phil Jackson. He's bringing that to the Warriors and

464
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,919
Speaker 4: it works. It's really hard to lose against them.

465
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 1: Is Phil Jackson the hardest coach you have to play for? Nah?

466
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 1: He's easy man.

467
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:59,959
Speaker 4: He's like not like for example, Rick Adelman, Rick Alman

468
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 4: on a practice day. Times you're gonna you'll be in

469
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Speaker 4: and out in forty five.

470
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard you say. It's like twenty minutes shootout Man,

471
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Speaker 1: thirty minute.

472
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 4: Jackson is an hour forty five minutes consistently. But it's

473
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 4: not hard. He's not screaming at you, where some coaches

474
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 4: it take them too long to get the point across.

475
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 4: So you'll beat it for three and a half hours,

476
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 4: and he's like, dude, we know this shit.

477
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:22,719
Speaker 11: You know what I mean?

478
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 2: Like move on?

479
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 1: And did he he was he the first one to

480
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: tell you teach you to meditate?

481
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Phil Jackson, He's probably reason I changed my name, right, Yeah,

482
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,120
Speaker 4: I'm Phil Jackson's I mean, I love him because you're

483
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 4: going to the we'll get in it, we'll get into

484
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 4: a practice, or we'll lose a game something like that,

485
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 4: one of those scenarios and then you know, Kobe, maybe

486
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 4: he'd probably upset you got you got all these egos.

487
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 1: You know.

488
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 4: In the first time I snow a sage in the

489
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 4: locker room, I thought it was he was we right,

490
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 4: I'm like, I see Phil Jackson he's with the Kobe locker.

491
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 4: He was like, went to buying them block up. You

492
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 4: got to get the demons out. Were meditating to all

493
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 4: lights off.

494
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm about to say I heard you say that

495
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: too as well, Like he would really turn all the

496
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Speaker 1: lights off.

497
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 4: He turned all the lights off, and he wants you

498
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 4: to like block out the sound. You know that white noise.

499
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 4: You didn't have a hit. He's trying to get you

500
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 4: to block out all the sound. Ideally you breathe at

501
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 4: the same pace. Ideally you breathe at the same pace.

502
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 4: And it's just great man, And he's helping you cause

503
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 4: you in La La is distracting, right, you know what

504
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:32,719
Speaker 4: I mean?

505
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,199
Speaker 1: And you you're the show in LA.

506
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 4: So he's like making sure we focus and when you

507
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 4: leave practice, like don't get in trouble, take care of

508
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 4: your body, and come back to practice as a team,

509
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 4: not like your own ego. You know, he was really

510
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,959
Speaker 4: so for me. It helped me because I just come

511
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 4: from averaging twenty five with the Rockets and now I'm

512
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 4: averaging seven. I'm only twenty nine.

513
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: Role player.

514
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 4: Now I'm a role player, and he helped me like

515
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 4: believe in that role. And then it took. It took

516
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Speaker 4: a while, but we got to do right.

517
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Speaker 11: Okay.

518
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: You said earlier that Jordan called you twice. Yeah, the

519
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: time was the brawl.

520
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 11: Second time that call.

521
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, man, So you know the brawl happened, I

522
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 4: was super depressed. I was like, damn, like I didn't

523
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 4: messed everything up.

524
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Speaker 1: He was depressed when he broke his ribs to it,

525
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: all right.

526
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 4: Definitely depressed.

527
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.

528
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 4: I'm a Jordan fan, like and then so then Jordan

529
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 4: would he hit me up after the brawl. This is

530
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Speaker 4: like a month and a half after and then he

531
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 4: was like, you know, I spoke to mister Stearns. Yeah,

532
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 4: he said, I think you're gonna be back in March.

533
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 4: So you know you had that from him.

534
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: Jay, you crazy?

535
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 4: All right, Cool, we're gonna get in the playoffs. We

536
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 4: the best team in the league. Cool, I'll be ready.

537
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 4: But it wasn't no March. They said, like you could go,

538
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 4: it's like a visit in jail. I guess, hey, your

539
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 4: wife can come now and she gotta leave now whatever.

540
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 4: Like they said, you can go to the playoff game,

541
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 4: but you got to exit. So I was able to

542
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 4: go to the game. They are afforded me to the

543
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 4: court to watch Reggie Miller's last game because they was

544
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 4: like Reggie wanted me there. And then once that was over, they.

545
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: Excorted me out, Wow, you didn't play, You couldn't play.

546
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 4: You just watched the game, Reggie's last regular season game.

547
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 4: It was crazy.

548
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: All right.

549
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 5: Now, I know this is a what if question?

550
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: Uh, but if because I heard you say, and I

551
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: heard you say this multiple times that the Ben Wallers

552
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: foul that you you did wasn't a tough foul.

553
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 5: It wasn't like that. I heard you say that.

554
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: Yes, so let me just imagine something for one second.

555
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 1: You don't file Ben Willace. Y'all, don't get into this argument.

556
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: Does the Pacers win that championship this day that year?

557
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 4: But Robert already said no, oh ship, he told me

558
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 4: that save five years ago. But rober is my guy,

559
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 4: is my guy. And the only TI gonna say, Robert

560
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 4: you my guy? Right, But the only t I gona say,

561
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 4: I wanna tell us. So Roberts says no. He's a

562
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 4: seven time champion, all right, he has the right to

563
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 4: say no. But what I what I would say is,

564
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 4: if you watch the playoffs against the Sacramento Kings and

565
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 4: the spurs, you'll see a great defender, and who is

566
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 4: the defriend over there the spurs right now.

567
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: That people two thousand.

568
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 4: And five, Who is the best to wing the friend

569
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 4: outside of me in the league?

570
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 11: Big question going? All right, cool, you're going.

571
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 4: You'll see him null and void on the block light

572
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 4: work right. Then you'll see nobody else is everybody's nulling

573
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 4: void because they're too small. These guys are way too small.

574
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 4: And then you'll see like you know, bigger guys like hey,

575
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 4: you small forward. You go go out there power forward

576
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 4: because we got to put the other power forward on me.

577
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 4: And then you will see work. So now you go

578
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 4: back to you know that, yeah for sure, Like I

579
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 4: can't because when you look at those stats.

580
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: If you go on YouTube, when you look at the

581
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: year I played.

582
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 4: Non games, right, and if you look at how look

583
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 4: at how easy it was for me to score, right,

584
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 4: you're gonna see one dribble bucket. You ain't gonna see

585
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 4: more than that. I was at twenty five points. Again,

586
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 4: it ain't take another jewel because once I see an angle,

587
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 4: if you wrapped up, you can't recover. I take that jewel.

588
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: I'm cooking.

589
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 4: You know, I'm strong and like a shoot. Right, So

590
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 4: you know, so I think that, Yeah, it's like a

591
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 4: water shular thinking, right, and but you know what, sometimes

592
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 4: that's your life. Your life is water shular. Like if

593
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 4: you look at Stephen Curry, you know he had the

594
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,719
Speaker 4: stats to prove it, like, but say, the numbers don't lie,

595
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 4: Like what his numbers don't lie? I got things I

596
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 4: could dream about. And guess what I'm okay with that?

597
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: Right? Well? We was we was cooking, right, that's for sure. Right.

598
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: Do you think that was too harsh of a punishment

599
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: because I think it's rumored that you had you had

600
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: the worst punishment.

601
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, uh in NBA history. You do you think that

602
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 5: was fair?

603
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 4: Look, I don't think it was fair, but they had

604
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 4: to do it, okay. Yeah, for example, not even an example.

605
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 4: I was getting into so much trouble, you know what

606
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 4: I mean, things people don't know about, you know.

607
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 10: What I mean.

608
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 11: I was getting in trouble, man.

609
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 4: I was just like because like I was just coming

610
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 4: out the league. My brother just went to jail, Wally

611
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 4: when I was going to Saint John's soon I was

612
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 4: at seventeen. I expected to go through this journey with

613
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 4: him because my brother, like I don't have nobody else

614
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 4: I'm talking to about this.

615
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: I don't know nothing.

616
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 4: I don't know anything else about I'm not a street

617
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 4: I'm a street smoke guy, but in a way I

618
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 4: am in the way I'm not. So he goes to jail.

619
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 4: Then I have my babies, and then you're making a

620
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 4: little money. So now alcohol coming to play because you're

621
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 4: out party. But you don't realize that alcohol is depressing,

622
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 4: Like you don't realize you know what I mean, Like

623
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 4: you're drinking honey on top of trying to take it.

624
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 4: I'm a dad at sixteen, and I was a good dad,

625
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 4: like i'm with my kids, but I'm a dad at sixteen,

626
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 4: so all that stuff, you know, you take it out

627
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 4: on your team, and you know, you go to work

628
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 4: and whatever you're happen at whole, you take it out

629
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 4: for your colleague. Yeah, you ain't messing with somebody today.

630
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 4: That happens in the business, right, And that's what I

631
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 4: was doing. And so then and then take it whatever

632
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: happened I practice home. But then you know, now you're

633
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 4: making mistakes, you know. And then I was telling Himen,

634
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 4: I was hearing you up. I guess earlier in the

635
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 4: year you have, you know, can when you're looking up

636
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 4: to the people in the street, right, it's like, I

637
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,239
Speaker 4: don't fuck you know what I mean, I don't need

638
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 4: this ship. And that's that.

639
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: That's that.

640
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 4: That's the crazy mindset when you work hard to make

641
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 4: something but you don't mind losing it, all right, So

642
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 4: then now it just becomes like a part of you,

643
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I was getting in

644
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 4: trouble the Bulls. When the Bulls traded me to Indiana.

645
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 4: Bill carright came to my room. He was like meta,

646
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 4: he said, can you please stop.

647
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: Right?

648
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 4: So you come to my room, he said, and he

649
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 4: talked to me about a half hour. I love coach Bill.

650
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 4: He was like, they ready to get rid of you

651
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 4: right now. But he said, okay, okay. Before I went

652
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 4: to the Paces, and then I said okay, okay, Bill

653
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 4: carr Right, then I did something else, got in trouble,

654
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 4: and then they shipped me out of there. So I

655
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 4: can't I say all that because I don't want to

656
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 4: act like it's all a fault, even though the suspension

657
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 4: was too harsh.

658
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So then after the Paces, you go

659
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: to Sacramento. Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong. I think

660
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: sack Town embraced you. And it was for me outside

661
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: looking at and inside of looking out that I started

662
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: to see you smile again a little bit like like

663
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: like I see you smile again when you went to

664
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: from from from sacrament I believe Sacramento and then Houston.

665
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 5: But was was that something that like being in Indiana?

666
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: Was that something that you had to like get get

667
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: out of your system? And there was more you wanting

668
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: to leave Indiana because of what was it? I'm as well.

669
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 4: The crazy thing was like, so two things happened in Indiana.

670
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 4: I tried to put in my retirement of papers, right,

671
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 4: so right before the brawl, Oh yeah, I called the

672
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 4: league office. He shout out to the league. I'm tell

673
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 4: you stories. I'm got a great relationship with the league now.

674
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 4: But I called a league office, right and I say

675
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 4: I'm retiring because I was stressed at I'd rather be

676
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 4: home with queens Bridge than be this stress.

677
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm happy in Queen's Bridge. So then so then they

678
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: called me.

679
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 4: And like they was like, nah, were not because it's

680
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 4: really simple. I want to retire, I need the paper,

681
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 4: I need the papers, right, But they were.

682
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 11: Like, you know, hold on why right, Wow, go ahead?

683
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,239
Speaker 4: It was like why And then I got a call

684
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 4: from Crystal to one of my good friends, Christian, and

685
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 4: she was like, hold on, think about it. I said, Noah,

686
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 4: I need these papers now. After after I heard them out,

687
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 4: I said, nah, send me those papers. And then I

688
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 4: talked to my wife. I said, Okay, I'm gonna make

689
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 4: it through. But I was stressed out. My grandma just

690
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 4: passed away that year, and then the bro happened. I'm like, damn,

691
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 4: I wish I would retire because what I told him

692
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 4: was I'm retired this year. I keep the money and

693
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 4: I'll come back next year, but I need a year

694
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 4: because I have my I have my children, I'm trying

695
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 4: to get my house set, and I'm like, I'm away

696
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 4: so much, like I can't.

697
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 5: Just don't have nothing to do with rapper this time.

698
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 4: I mean I was wrapping that Nature wrote, so I

699
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 4: already started rapping. I'm inspired by you.

700
00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: You heard.

701
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 4: Eat money Bags.

702
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 5: That's crazy, Like you know, I'm You're.

703
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 4: At Cleveland, like you want to be like like Noah

704
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 4: showing to be like all these guys. I was already

705
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 4: rapping at that time. People didn't understand why, because these guys.

706
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 4: I will come to these guys, you know what I mean.

707
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 4: But but I forgot where I was going.

708
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: But you've meeting that time, yea.

709
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 12: And Sat.

710
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 4: I get the SAT and I tell coach Adam and

711
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 4: r I p coach Autum and he passed away. I

712
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 4: tell coach at him and I said, listen, I'm trying

713
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 4: to attire, all right, I don't. I said, I need

714
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 4: your help. I said, I need you not to start me.

715
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: When that's the coach that said, no, I'm gonna play

716
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: you more now. Yeah, okay.

717
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 4: I was like, I need you not to start me.

718
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: I said, please keep me on the end of the bench.

719
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 4: And I'm a chair. But I don't want the media

720
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 4: to say, oh now, mediworld pieces coming around the test

721
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 4: coming sack the middle, causing problems. I said, you can

722
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 4: keep it under the bench, then I can like he's

723
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 4: out of here. And he was like nope, he said,

724
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 4: and they keep him out. When I got there in January,

725
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 4: they was in the last place in the west.

726
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: Wow, and the west is a toper west to in

727
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: the east.

728
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 4: At this time, Yes, he said, We're gonna go as

729
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 4: far as you take me. So we had another half

730
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 4: hour conversation. I come out the next day, I say

731
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 4: we're going to the playoffs. Media is like hell no,

732
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 4: hell now it's all documented, Like now y'all hit going

733
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 4: to the playoff.

734
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: They left.

735
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 4: And keep in mind I was two hundred and seventy

736
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 4: three pounds, so my first game in Boston, I was

737
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 4: two seventy three. Wow, and I was depressed. I went

738
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 4: from two forty eight two fifty five hours and then

739
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 4: so it took me a while to get work back

740
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 4: into shape. But we was Kenny Smith, so I was

741
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 4: the second half MVP. Like you said, the best record,

742
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 4: we had the best record in the league. I think

743
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: since I got there, I think we had the best

744
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 4: record in the league. I got there, and we almost

745
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 4: we dispersed the first World championship. But you know, but

746
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 4: Rick Adelman, Yeah for sure, he got me back on track.

747
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 5: Are you the only.

748
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: Championship basketball player from Queensbridge or there's another?

749
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 4: Well?

750
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 5: Do I know Kenny Smith is the only one from left?

751
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: Right?

752
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: Okay?

753
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well Vernon flemm is the only Olympian Olympian Oh okay, wow,

754
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 7: you know Vern's from my block.

755
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 4: He has a baby by his his cousin got a

756
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 4: baby by my cousin Aaron.

757
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 5: He coached you at one time right now in Indiana. Okay, yeah,

758
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 5: it's crazy.

759
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 4: I was playing for Vernon Fleming and he didn't come

760
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 4: back to the hood as much as I came back.

761
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 4: And you would hear a certain things, you know, people chatter,

762
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 4: you might heard things about you, yeah, anything, they they

763
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 4: changed and about everybody. Because I was like all the

764
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 4: young dude, I got something listitary everybody plain about everybody,

765
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But but Vernon was that guy,

766
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 4: and then I was. Now I should have been an

767
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 4: Olympia but because of the bro ain't no defensive player

768
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: of the Year the year of the Olympia. Yeah, not

769
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 4: going to but so they kept me out that you know.

770
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 4: But but yeah I'm the only champion.

771
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: Now, what's the owners of the Sacramento Maloose? You have

772
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: to Queen's Bridge with no security. I love these guys

773
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: have a billionaires correct at the time they was.

774
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 4: The real estate crash in two thousand and eight. Heard

775
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 4: them and now they back up.

776
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: Okay, so all right, they're surpribed you. You were inviting

777
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: them to. This is one of the wildest but one

778
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: of the most funniest projects in the world and.

779
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 5: It's the biggest.

780
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 1: It's the biggest.

781
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 5: So you're surpribed, you inviting them, Like, how did this go?

782
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 4: Well? These guys are incredible, probably some of the best

783
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 4: owners I had.

784
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: Oh wow, because you out with them, they're coming out too. Yeah,

785
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: you out.

786
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 4: You know, we all in the club. We are together.

787
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: So I said, hey, y'all want.

788
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 4: To come to the Hood and Gavin and then Joe

789
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 4: was like yeah. I said, all right, cool, and they

790
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 4: show up with our security. I'm like, you guys, don't secret.

791
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 4: So we go to the Queen's Bridge. We just hang out.

792
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: We're drinking with a park in the hood. Okay, you

793
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: don't go on the dime het Okay, I'm from.

794
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 5: T Street, but I always.

795
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 4: And then then we went up the Kingdome.

796
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 5: Wow.

797
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 4: Crazy, So me and Kingdom they got right now, Kingdom

798
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 4: taking two separate. Kingdom is the best tournament in New

799
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 4: York ever. Oh wow, Rutgers got the Kingdom? Is that thing?

800
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 11: Okay?

801
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 4: A Kingdome dark is coming up over the last couple years.

802
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 4: Kingdom is like, so, so I bring them the Kingdome

803
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: And it's crazy that you just got out of prison.

804
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: That day.

805
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 4: He had fifty seven on me. Honestly, the game was

806
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 4: lit me and him getting into it, you know what

807
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 4: I mean. And then the malose is like drinking nutcrackers.

808
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: In the stands. They got to go to the bathroom.

809
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 4: I'm like, ain't no potty. They go up to somebody's crib.

810
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 4: The maloose used the bathroom in the hood, and they

811
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 4: start throwing money. They start throwing money, and you know

812
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 4: the niggas like, yo, who throwing money on me?

813
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm a stripper. They look back kingo okay, king okay,

814
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: and the Delicious they just haven't.

815
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 4: And then there was they got a little altercation like sorry,

816
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 4: my own They don't mean no harm.

817
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 11: They haven't.

818
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they shut out to these That just makes

819
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: a book. They were let off those nut crackers. The

820
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: fact that they went to the hood that didn't win

821
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: to because Kingdoms is uptown.

822
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 4: Right uptown? Okay?

823
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, great tournament.

824
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: And oh man, I gotta big them up. That's security

825
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: though they definitely should have. Yeah I got and uh and.

826
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 5: Let's talk about.

827
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: The league that you're coaching right now, because they didn't

828
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: they make history this.

829
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 4: Year girls, Yeah, okay, so over the last seven years,

830
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 4: well actually during my NBA career. My last couple of seasons,

831
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 4: I was coaching Palace his girls high school. So I

832
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 4: would leave my Laker practice to go to Parli States

833
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 4: and coach the girls. This coach was like, his name

834
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 4: is coach Terrino Johnson. He was like, yo, you want

835
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 4: to come coach. I said, yeah, I want, I want

836
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 4: to coach. I might as well get started. So he

837
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 4: introduced me and he got the job at cal State.

838
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 4: He left high school with cal State and I went

839
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 4: with him. So I've been there for seven for seven years.

840
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 4: And when we got there, I mean it's Division two,

841
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 4: so here's no budget. I mean, girls is in school

842
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 4: and they might him to practice depending on what school

843
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 4: you at. Wow, cal State was in. It started in

844
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 4: nineteen forty seven. They never won anything. We get there,

845
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 4: you know, and then so anyway, seven years later we

846
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 4: had taped Division two program. We won the CCA Tournament

847
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 4: for her first time in history.

848
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: So we got out.

849
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 4: This is last year or this year we stuck. We

850
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 4: got division We play against Division one and we beat

851
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 4: a few Division ones so we could keepete with a

852
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 4: lot of Division ones, not the top ones. It's not

853
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 4: like you know, the big USC those ones is a

854
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 4: little bit difficult. But this year it's different. This year

855
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 4: we different for sure. And then we had a first

856
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 4: ever Player of the Year, so we got a Player

857
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 4: of the Year. So yeah, it's pretty good.

858
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: Man.

859
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 4: It's a lot of fun. I love coaching women.

860
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: If the Knicks was a call you, let's say we

861
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: need an assistant, would you take an assistant? Joe I

862
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: tried to get their head coaching job last year.

863
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 4: I was I made a lot of noise.

864
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 5: I think you told me that.

865
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: I think I'm using the inside of a mixture right now.

866
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 4: I made a lot of noise. I was no representation.

867
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: That would have been dope. Hold on, this is to

868
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: think about coaches. Then this this year why they won.

869
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 4: Well, the reason so last year I was making a push.

870
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 4: Now keep in mind, I'm not represented by anybody. I

871
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 4: got my own stuff. So the politics on that side

872
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 4: is like they know who they want because they don't

873
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 4: know what I'm doing. But there's also coaches that don't

874
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 4: have no experience like I got that get those jobs.

875
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 4: So but the nick job what I saw is this

876
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 4: when Jalen Person came to New York and it is

877
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 4: a clip going around. Okay, we're people are like, now

878
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 4: it's not gonna work, not gonna work.

879
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: I was like, hell, no, this is gonna work. You

880
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I was with one of the people. I'm sorry, Jay,

881
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: that was one of the people that I didn't.

882
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't. I didn't.

883
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: I didn't see the fix. And so until I see

884
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: him play in the NIXT uniform and I was like, oh,

885
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: this kid is kind of kind of good. And I

886
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: didn't see it at first.

887
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 4: He said have you seen him in Dallas? We would

888
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 4: have been like wow, okay, you know what I mean.

889
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 4: So so when he when he got there, I'm like wow.

890
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: And then I didn't think the job was gonna open.

891
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 4: I was in Canada, where I live, and I spoke

892
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 4: to your future.

893
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.

894
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 4: And I was in Canada and when I seen coach

895
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 4: Timms got fired, like oh, I got to get on

896
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 4: my job. And I got a tweet because this thing

897
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 4: happened fast. When when when somebody get fired, someone's usually.

898
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 5: Hired, right, you know what I mean? So you tried

899
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:31,959
Speaker 5: to get that highed.

900
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 4: I tried to get in. So I started a tweet

901
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: talk about it, and I was gaining the momentum amongst

902
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 4: the New York Is and and then the reason why

903
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: I wanted that job because of Jail and Brunts.

904
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I gotta I keep, I keep I

905
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: keep thinking, I keep saying this because so I got

906
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm asking you the same question twice.

907
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 4: But I loved it.

908
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: But I was it Jayleen Bruston or was the squad?

909
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: Because because what was my man?

910
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 4: Heart?

911
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 5: Was Heart there already?

912
00:39:59,480 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 4: Hart was there?

913
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, cool? So all right, and let me

914
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: ask you this question, because you were basketball experienced, right,

915
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: did you think there's gonna win the Chip? Though?

916
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 4: I thought, with me they would have won the Chips.

917
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 4: And this is before Mike Ground, before they won a Chi.

918
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 4: I thought, I was, you know, I would help them

919
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 4: win the Chip and because of Jail and Brunson. And

920
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 4: then they had Cat and they got the other pieces,

921
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 4: and that's what that's what I felt at the time.

922
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: You know, they didn't have Cat in the beginning of

923
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: the season though, right, I think came in later this year.

924
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 5: This you're talking about last year, I think he was.

925
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 4: There already, but you know, Jail and Bruns and I

926
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 4: saw us have the game and I saw how he

927
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 4: playing if you watch him in Dallas.

928
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: It was like, oh shit, I got job.

929
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 4: You only get one shot at certain things. So I said,

930
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go for it, you know what I mean.

931
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 4: And and then I was surprised that Mike Brown got

932
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 4: the job.

933
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: I thought they was looking at other people, you know.

934
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: So I love his story and I found out his

935
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: story is That's what I was really sold. Like when

936
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: I found out his father is I believe the assistant coach,

937
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: mister Yeah. And I found out that actually Jayleen, the

938
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: son was at the next game when he lost Philadelphia.

939
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: I was like, that's like the Leo Messy story right now,

940
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: It's like the soccer story like when the kids.

941
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 4: When the Kids is like, so, okay, yeah, that was

942
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 4: a great story.

943
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: I saw that. Yeah, but what what would you would

944
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: you would you take a sister's job or if it

945
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: was offered or because because didn't you work with the

946
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: Knicks or something like that.

947
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 4: I do a lot with the lakers Paces next that

948
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 4: they are playing for community service works. Okay, you know

949
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 4: what I mean, And I'll do it. I'm coaching right now.

950
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: I kind of like to I enjoy what I'm doing.

951
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 4: So I'm coaching girls I got a lot of experience.

952
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 4: I'm a head coach right and I don't feel bad

953
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 4: about that position that I'm playing.

954
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: You know.

955
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 4: Will I be an assistant, Yeah, but I think I'd

956
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 4: rather be with my family than being an assistant. No disrespect,

957
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 4: you know about it. You know what I mean. I'd

958
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 4: rather spend time because I'm I'm not going to coach

959
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 4: a long time. Once I get that head coaching job,

960
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 4: the clock is on, you know, because I'm not. I'm

961
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 4: not I'm not staying that long. If I stay five

962
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 4: years or something like that. So every it ain't a

963
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 4: head coaching job then right now it's like nothing and

964
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 4: a crazy thing about it. So on March fourth, I

965
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 4: get it. My head coach to Renal Johnson, gets a

966
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 4: call a tech from Mike Brown and then Mike Brown

967
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 4: shout out to Mike Ground. Played for Mike Brown. Indiana

968
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 4: plays with Mike Ground the Lakers, and then he said,

969
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 4: I want you to get I want you to get

970
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 4: on on a on a call with BOC Brinda Conna.

971
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 4: I played for Brindal Conna Indiana team, and I want

972
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 4: you to talk about some defense. So then my head

973
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 4: coach to Renal Johnson, So this is March fourth, and

974
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 4: I want you to look at what they did since

975
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 4: March fourth. So then my head coach to Reno Johnson says,

976
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 4: you'll met. I'm about to get on a call with

977
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 4: with BOC because they want to talk about some defense.

978
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit, so I run a defense. You

979
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: know what I right for the Knicks. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

980
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 4: So so apparently I think people were watching how we play.

981
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: My style is incredible, So so we going over the defense.

982
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 4: So I'm saying I coached Johnson. I just give them this.

983
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: I watched the game.

984
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 4: I watched them the games, and then I went gave

985
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 4: him assessin. I said, you should talk about this, you

986
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 4: should talk about this. Well since March fourth, they were

987
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 4: forty six and nineteen.

988
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: Wow.

989
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 4: And when you look at so that validates that I

990
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 4: can coach. And my gout I got Cam because Cam

991
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 4: says him, I got made. So I played with Mason Ruger,

992
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 4: we played for Diddy Rutker, we got championship together, and

993
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 4: you a mace.

994
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: Think in the game a.

995
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 5: Little bit, Okay.

996
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: Then I heard and I heard him though too.

997
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 4: Cam was good. But then they were talking about like

998
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 4: you know, I don't have any experience from when I

999
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 4: hit up cam, I'm like, I'm like, do you gotta

1000
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 4: do your research? This is not meta from Queensbridge Like,

1001
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 4: I'm a I'm a I'm a coach. I'm a professional coach.

1002
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 4: I'm forty six years old. So said I hit up Caming.

1003
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 4: He was like, he's gonna have me on the show whatever.

1004
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 4: But then the narrative was I'm not coaching. You know,

1005
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 4: people saying I'm not coaching, right.

1006
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: So why they don't look at the women's like like

1007
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 1: a real coach.

1008
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 4: It's just politics when you get sports money at stake,

1009
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 4: So if your client has the opportunity to go grab

1010
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 4: a bag, why you're gonna mark me? Right, I'm coming

1011
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 4: in independent. I'm an independent, I'm an independent artist. I

1012
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 4: don't need nothing right and I'm not letting nobody pick

1013
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 4: my staff. I had another job for San Jose right,

1014
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 4: they wanted to hire me, right, but they was like

1015
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 4: for women's for women's coaching, where they wanted to pick

1016
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: my staff. I'm trying to win the championship and if

1017
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 4: you look at what they did the ship at three

1018
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 4: and twenty seven or something.

1019
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: While I'm not nobody.

1020
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 4: Because I know who I want. I need alpha dogs.

1021
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 4: I need people that can threaten my job. I need

1022
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 4: alphas around them. I don't want to know you know

1023
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 4: what I mean?

1024
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: So I want like Rashie Wallace, You know what I mean? Yeah,

1025
00:44:59,360 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: I want.

1026
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 5: I don't want Stephen Jackson.

1027
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 4: Who else did you know I need? I need? I

1028
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 4: need people that's like gonna challenge me, because then you

1029
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 4: have that confrontation, you agree to disagree, and you get back.

1030
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 4: I don't even nobody, so you know what I'm like, hell,

1031
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 4: and I'm not like y'all pick my stuff.

1032
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: That also shows That also shows confidence for the players

1033
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 2: when they see the coaches so so animated.

1034
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah competitive, But well, let me ask you this, because

1035
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: your style is like so rough, like straight to it,

1036
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: like you ever think that you too rough for the girls.

1037
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 4: Or like no, I'm a coach, right, It's not like

1038
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 4: when I played.

1039
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 5: You know, Okay, okay, okay.

1040
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 4: Coaching my girls, you know now, I'm implementing Phil Jackson stuff.

1041
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 4: I'm meditating with my girls. I'm making sure they get

1042
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 4: to school. I'm not screaming up my girls. But if

1043
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 4: you if you talk to my girls, they probably never

1044
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 4: heard me raise my voice for the exception of we

1045
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 4: had a few that was just like me.

1046
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: I girls just like.

1047
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 4: Really and I had to like control him. And but

1048
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 4: I always talked to my girls like you know how

1049
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 4: you feel, you know this, this is how I coach.

1050
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 4: I let him know I'm gonna be a man. I'm

1051
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 4: not coaching like like nobody else. I'm coaching like me,

1052
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 4: and they let me coach like me. So we have

1053
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 4: an understanding and and it's all good. Yeah, show they

1054
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 4: like it.

1055
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: Pulled up and say, coach, I saw video.

1056
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 2: Come Oh, I mean as who you are and what

1057
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: you're leading and what you're giving them as mentor coach.

1058
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: They got to be like, nah, he's a.

1059
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 11: Dog too, I got to know who he is.

1060
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. Sometimes sometimes they might watch maybe you watch a

1061
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 4: clip right when you meet me in person, I'm forty six,

1062
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 4: you know, and mature.

1063
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm holding that.

1064
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 4: That's like going, that's like glory may I heard some

1065
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 4: of your musics, like, like hold on.

1066
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: Many last I was here, we didn't do flowers.

1067
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: We gotta we got to what the flowers. Our shows

1068
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: about giving people their flowers, they thought so they could

1069
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: sell them. This is before you walked in. We were

1070
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: watching this is Fire and we were watching and it

1071
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: was the first it was it was playing a game

1072
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: when you first wore World Peace jersey, and it was

1073
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: a clip with lead this when you first got to

1074
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: the next and don't I don't think you wanted to

1075
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: wear that jersey at that time?

1076
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 5: What happened explaining to that?

1077
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 4: It was wild? So like I changed my name to me.

1078
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 4: I became a Buddhist huh in two thousand and nine,

1079
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 4: and then I was I was still practicing and I

1080
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 4: played for Phil. Ironically, I said, this is he's saying,

1081
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 4: we win the championship, and I wanted with controls.

1082
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: I won a championship by having enter control.

1083
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 4: So now I'm like, I'm all in on Buddhist. Then

1084
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 4: I can't, and then I'm like, okay, I'm gonna change

1085
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 4: my name. So initially I was looking at two Indian

1086
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 4: types style names Medas an Indian name from the Indian culture,

1087
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 4: and then I was looking at another last name. Initially

1088
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 4: it was actually so Hood, so that was my first option.

1089
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 4: Well I was wrong. I actually had the shirt, you know,

1090
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 4: and then it evolved to like, but as I got

1091
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 4: older in my mind it was evolving, so you know,

1092
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 4: as I said, okay, let me, let me stick to

1093
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 4: more me.

1094
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: So then.

1095
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 4: When I saw it was like, you know, I picture

1096
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 4: on thousands of names and then the last name was

1097
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 4: like meta imagine like meta group or Metasuja. I'm like

1098
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 4: it's too much like for me. I'm like, I can't

1099
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 4: have two Indian names. I'm not an Indian. So then

1100
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 4: I was trying to go for a different last name,

1101
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 4: and the world piece just hit. I'm like, I'm the

1102
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 4: only shake. If he was going through the war at

1103
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 4: that time, you know what I mean, he was going

1104
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 4: through the wall Middle Eastern War Iraq.

1105
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: And look at the look at the title.

1106
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 5: You're an outbum.

1107
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 4: I never asked you about it, but you know the

1108
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 4: tragedy like you know, thank you.

1109
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 1: This is incredible.

1110
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 4: So you know, when you when you look at people,

1111
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 4: people don't understand about tragedy. As a young kid that's

1112
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 4: trying to find his way in the neighborhood, you know,

1113
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 4: find his way in life. Like you listen to the tragedy,

1114
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, that's all we got. I

1115
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 4: can't trust. I can't trust what I he did. Tragedy

1116
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 4: is saying this is how he laying it out. That's

1117
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 4: how that's where we go to school.

1118
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:27,959
Speaker 11: Last.

1119
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 4: So now I don't want necessarily want to get in trouble,

1120
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 4: you know, but I want to I listen. I say, okay,

1121
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 4: if I make these right decisions, and if I listen

1122
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 4: to you know what, you know kind of how he's saying,

1123
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 4: if you make a wrong move, you know you're gonna

1124
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 4: go to jail. Something.

1125
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 5: He was talking about the rest of the president too, you.

1126
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 4: Know what I mean, the back then, and then you

1127
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 4: know my cousin, my brother in the little hostuff. You know,

1128
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 4: he's like, he's the only one that got three babies

1129
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 4: by my sister, but everybody else got for baby mamas,

1130
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 4: but hostile passed away. Screwball, right, and then even if

1131
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 4: you look at the record they made about Giuliani. Wow,

1132
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 4: so right, So as I'm listening to this stuff and saying,

1133
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 4: how could I take this and understand what they're saying.

1134
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 4: So then when you talk about world peace and people

1135
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 4: say you calling him it's crazy, I'm like, nah, that

1136
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 4: sails the walk going out going on outside, nobody's safe

1137
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 4: from Like, how could I inspire somebody from the hood.

1138
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 4: That's why when I went to the league. The reason

1139
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 4: I kept representing the streets was because I wanted them

1140
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 4: to know I didn't forget about them, And I also

1141
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 4: wanted them to know, like, you know, you don't have

1142
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 4: to be in trouble, like you could do things on

1143
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 4: from a positive perspective and focus on your family. You

1144
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 4: don't have to don't take debate, you know what I mean.

1145
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 4: And I learned that from people like Tragedy, you know

1146
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 4: what I mean, just listening to my albums and of

1147
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 4: course you know, and you know Nasis like he's different,

1148
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 4: he's like a superstar all this stuff, but he also

1149
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 4: has a lot of great messaging he does, you.

1150
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: Know what I mean. I'm speaking about Naves. Is it

1151
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: true that in the middle of jay Z and Nives

1152
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: going to war you hung out with jay Z or

1153
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: you brung jay Z to the hood, or he gave

1154
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: you a rocke like this.

1155
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna like this up. We don't know, Yeah, yeah,

1156
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 4: drink check the drink Champs normally got a baby by

1157
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 4: my cousin. This is a show.

1158
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: And uh, I'm gonna like this up. Yeah yeah, yeah

1159
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: yeah to no.

1160
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 5: So is that true?

1161
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: Uh? After you hung out with Jyll gave you a

1162
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: you played for him in Record Park or something right

1163
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: in the.

1164
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 5: Middle of j and Ives going the war.

1165
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, they owe me an apology. The record it. Now

1166
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 4: you owe me the first apology. Now I's one me

1167
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 4: like a I understand that an apology. So what happened

1168
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 4: was like I'm a I'm a freshman at Saint John's.

1169
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, this is okay, coolte.

1170
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 4: Ninety Okay, I started to build a relationship with Rockefeller.

1171
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 4: Hip hop Okay, so I start the relationship with Rockefeller.

1172
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 4: Now keep in mind, we idolize Nas like he's Michael

1173
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 4: Jordan and also beyond Michael Jordan's you know so so,

1174
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 4: but Nas was like busy in ninety seven. I guess

1175
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 4: he's not in the hood a lot, you know what

1176
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 4: I mean, So we don't. I don't see him a

1177
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 4: lot unless hes don't know. He's going on his side.

1178
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 4: But I'm staying on my side. So anyway, I happened

1179
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 4: to have a relationship with the Rockefeller and not. Now,

1180
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 4: keep in mind, I know wherez like these.

1181
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 7: I played ball winz every on the weekends, man wiz yeahkay, okay.

1182
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 4: From Bravehouse. You see I see the Brave Hauts.

1183
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 5: Okay, but I don't see Nas Okay, so.

1184
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 4: I don't have a relationship with nas. First time I

1185
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 4: met Nas, you know, was he Lloyd, And I said, damn,

1186
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 4: why can't I mean Nas man? So I was fifteen,

1187
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 4: and Lloyd said, yo, Na's coming through right now. So

1188
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 4: he came through. He came on.

1189
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: He in a minivan.

1190
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 4: And it's the first time I seen diamonds that look

1191
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 4: like rainbows.

1192
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm like, damn.

1193
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: And then now I'm staying through the first time, my

1194
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: first time I met him literally as a you know,

1195
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: and this is ninety nine.

1196
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 4: No, this was ninety six or ninety five, Okay, first

1197
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 4: time I met nine. Okay, you know in terms of like,

1198
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 4: you know, I'm doing my thing, he's doing he's he's

1199
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 4: already doing this thing. And you know, this kid from

1200
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 4: the hood look up to you want to meet you.

1201
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 4: I met NOAs and then so that that's that's it.

1202
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 4: And then after that, I played a relationship with Rockefeller.

1203
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 4: Rockefeller had a relationship with Saint John's right, you know,

1204
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 4: So I'm like dinners with these guys. I'm going into

1205
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 4: the office with Dame you know what I mean. I'm

1206
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 4: in the office at the Rocke at the Rockefeller Rockaware

1207
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 4: Rockaway Rockefeller where. So so I'm getting like free stuff

1208
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 4: and keep in mind, yeah, I mean I don't got nothing.

1209
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 4: I still don't got nothing, like Ja Laurian used to

1210
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 4: give me.

1211
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 1: Five dollars like lawyer, yeah, young Okay.

1212
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 4: So so then I'm like, all right, cool, jay Z's

1213
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 4: a rapper who I listened to jay Z? Actually I

1214
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 4: wasn't a big jay Z fan. I got Cedric from

1215
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 4: twelve Sheet was a big jay Z fan. I was

1216
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 4: listening to old school music. Good okay, So then he

1217
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 4: loved jay I learned about jay Z from Cedric. So

1218
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 4: then so then you know, so you're so we're hanging

1219
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 4: out and I develop a relationship now and in the

1220
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 4: back of my mind, I'm like, dad, I wish I

1221
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 4: had a relationship with NAS, right because I look up

1222
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 4: the NAS. So anyway, that fast forward and right before

1223
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 4: I'm about to announce, I'm going to the NBA, I

1224
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 4: go to the Rockefeller office. I say, yo, I'm about

1225
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 4: to announce, because now I'm like, how Lebron is with

1226
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 4: Jay in ninety seven? Lebron is fourteen, right, right, so

1227
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 4: he was I was Jay was like I think I

1228
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 4: was being prepped to be on like a Rock Nation

1229
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 4: type of thing. They were already thinking about this.

1230
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 11: Okay, wow.

1231
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 4: So I was like, you, I'm gonna wear a Rockefeller.

1232
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 4: I'm gonna weird. I mean, I'm a rock and were

1233
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 4: into my press conference and I did my press conference

1234
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 4: in the hood of Quensbridge. I already had a planning

1235
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 4: in the recenter. The I didn't know they have beef.

1236
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 5: Okay, I didn't know.

1237
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 4: I didn't know.

1238
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: I know, you know what I mean.

1239
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 4: Honestly, the beef launched like three days before. Look at

1240
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 4: the date when the beef lunch. So I'm like, oh

1241
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 4: my goodness, Like, do I tell Rocket Fellow, I don't

1242
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 4: want beef for these names. But I can't wear your

1243
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 4: stuff because you got beef from my men, right, So

1244
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 4: now you know? And then I'm like, yo, they were

1245
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 4: they using me as a poem. That's a fair cesstem.

1246
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 4: I go through it. Now, keep in mind, that's dangerous

1247
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 4: because now I'm not not even older guys, the guys

1248
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 4: my age. That's like, yo, what Rocky way in the hunt?

1249
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 4: So that was danger but I went but I went

1250
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 4: on with it, and I never heard from Rocky. I

1251
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 4: never heard from the news again. And then I gotta imagine.

1252
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, this is good ship. I spoke

1253
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 4: briefly about it, like not a lot. I spoke brief medium.

1254
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 4: We had dinner with Nas. Shout out the NAS coat.

1255
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 4: I went to the coat.

1256
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, we want in New York.

1257
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 1: On that crazy.

1258
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 4: But so anyway, now you fast forward, it's like and

1259
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 4: then before that, I ain't even know Damon jay Z

1260
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 4: had a problem.

1261
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: Wait wait what back?

1262
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 13: Okay, Okay, okay, me and Cam we do the we

1263
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 13: do the rock o where launch okay, close, and they

1264
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 13: did a photo shooting and I'm showing up because I

1265
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 13: got a relationship with rock with right, so I'm thinking, oh,

1266
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 13: sh j J not head, but this is.

1267
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 4: Gonna be okay. And and it's out there you can

1268
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 4: look at.

1269
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 5: It, right, okay, but they got beef.

1270
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 4: So now it's like, oh, I wasn't I said, oh,

1271
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 4: I wasn't supposed.

1272
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 11: To do this when you're there, no after because I.

1273
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 4: Know they have beef. So I'm like, damn, I'm in

1274
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 4: between some I'm just trying to I'm trying my pro

1275
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 4: so I'm trying to attach myself to something hot, right,

1276
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And then like so that

1277
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 4: was like a witch and I'm also working on an album.

1278
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 4: I was also start working on my album, so I'm

1279
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 4: hoping I can get like some verses, some good beats.

1280
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 4: So that kind of like and then then.

1281
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: Then fast forward into when they first hit the stage.

1282
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 4: So you got Jay, you got Nas, you got Lebron.

1283
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 4: I show up for NAS, and I get a call

1284
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 4: from Killer Kids, Rock Charlie, Yo, maybe maybe wiz And

1285
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 4: and Jungle. Okay, somebody said, Yo, be here, and Childie

1286
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 4: is like, Yo, you gotta be there. I'm all right,

1287
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 4: make it happen. So I was right there before they

1288
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 4: walk on the stage. I'm like, I know I'm going

1289
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 4: up there, you know. And then I ain't even see

1290
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 4: I said, I said, I'm gonna go up there just

1291
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 4: to be like I And then I saw Lebron. I said, oh,

1292
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 4: I know, I'm next one. I got a whole down

1293
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 4: on my guy, you know what I mean. And I

1294
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 4: was Jay Nas and wrong and I was kind of

1295
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 4: I was like, I was kind of hurt, and then

1296
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 4: you know, and then I was like, you never got

1297
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 4: to get on the stage.

1298
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: No, So then so I have to excuse I have.

1299
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 4: I have a case I should have been on that stage.

1300
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 4: That's a different way of the Yeah, you know what

1301
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 4: I mean.

1302
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: Uh.

1303
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 4: And then also I just wanted to get those two down,

1304
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 4: like yo, like rock rock rockaway while y'all stop messing

1305
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 4: with me. Right when I gave you my time. I

1306
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 4: think my time was somewhat valuable. And then how you

1307
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 4: guys as friends now didn't talk to me. Okay, where

1308
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 4: do I fall into this category?

1309
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? To be clear, they weren't

1310
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: paying you to do the rock, so you were just

1311
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: doing it.

1312
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 4: No, I ain't pay you. I didn't get paid. Just yeah,

1313
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 4: just looking in a relationship like cause I'm trying to

1314
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 4: I'm in the front New York Brooklyn sat down and

1315
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 4: I got my name from uptown, Like I'm just trying to.

1316
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 4: I'm about to go pro.

1317
00:58:59,760 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: You know.

1318
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 4: The first thing I did was when I got When

1319
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 4: I went pro, I shout out gods and mall.

1320
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: Deep, but they were standing on stage.

1321
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 4: That's the first thing I did, shout out to the mall,

1322
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 4: shout out, thinking like we're gonna come together, Like we're

1323
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 4: gonna come together. I got some bread. I know what's

1324
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 4: happening in the hood. I know niggas could use a

1325
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 4: little investments. I was the first investor in MS records

1326
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 4: with no contract.

1327
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: That's just cash.

1328
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 4: Wow, I gave I started, I gave.

1329
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: I gave you Prodigy to cash.

1330
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 4: That's before you would do I don't know what contract

1331
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 4: is shut out. I was helping with the records. We

1332
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 4: go get the records from the shoint. But in my mind,

1333
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, ship, you know. And I wasn't speaking

1334
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 4: annoy this much. But in my mind I'm like, oh,

1335
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 4: seeing them, what can I do to help?

1336
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1337
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 4: But it was a total opposite, Like you know, I

1338
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 4: was feeling the square in the circle.

1339
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a little bit but let me, do

1340
00:59:55,160 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: you think, like even from Queensbridgs, do you think you

1341
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: deserved more support when it came to your music career.

1342
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 5: Yes, you felt like that.

1343
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 4: Because guys is like your guys. What I'm saying is

1344
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 4: I was inspired by your guests right right right. So

1345
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 4: now people would say you never got nas on the record,

1346
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 4: I digg it, no, but okay, he sent me your record.

1347
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 4: I couldn't edit.

1348
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: Okay, another story I love. I didn't know that you

1349
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: couldn't use it.

1350
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 4: I used it. I needed I needed to. I needed

1351
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 4: to edit my my my artist verse.

1352
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 5: Oh okay, I couldn't it.

1353
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: Okay just recorded.

1354
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 5: You didn't have a mission, you just do artist on it,

1355
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 5: and I didn't.

1356
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 4: We tried, we made it work, but it was like,

1357
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 4: you know, I need the files, I need the stems.

1358
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: Then you didn't know it was I knew I needed

1359
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: at that.

1360
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 4: Time, but I didn't want to ask nows again because

1361
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is if you give you this, take it,

1362
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like this is enough from

1363
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 4: regard right, But yeah, I always wanted to wrap. I mean,

1364
01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 4: if you think about it, like on the third.

1365
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 14: Floor, huh ering on three A well and you forty

1366
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 14: one oh wait that's tenth street, but twelve street forty one,

1367
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 14: sixteen okay, sixteen killer and have it the three ceeds

1368
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 14: my cousin who was also he right there.

1369
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 4: They also moving a lot right in the hood eight

1370
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 4: three A right. So so I'm like, I've seen the

1371
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 4: whole experience, you know, coming to so I'm like this

1372
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 4: is inspimental. People was like, you know, why are you

1373
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,479
Speaker 4: wrapping now? In the hoods somebody like why are you rapping?

1374
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 4: Or my cousin the pole, why a you rapping?

1375
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: Rapping? I'm around you, guys, every day, right, you know

1376
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: what I mean? Now that you look back at it,

1377
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: do you think that was a mistake because then you

1378
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: get in trouble with Sacramento or who team was it.

1379
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: I never got in trouble, oh, because I think you

1380
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: wanted to go on tour.

1381
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 4: Well, what happened was so before the broad okay, my

1382
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 4: grandma passed away, and then I needed a break.

1383
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 11: Okay, so I was going to Miami.

1384
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 4: They let me go on the break. But when I

1385
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 4: went to Miami, the d T was U huh And

1386
01:01:59,400 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 4: I went on state.

1387
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: He was supposed to go. I should not have done nothing,

1388
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: but I was.

1389
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 5: He was supposed to be playing the game.

1390
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 4: Well, I was going on the break and am I

1391
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 4: just passed? So I said, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna

1392
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 4: take a break. I'm gonna go to Miami with my

1393
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 4: guys and we're gonna go to Miami. You go to

1394
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 4: the club break. That could be part of the break.

1395
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 4: It was, honestly, it was part of me break.

1396
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 1: Honestly part of the break because your grandma died.

1397
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, the breakage to my grandma.

1398
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I wasn't.

1399
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 4: I wasn't. Honestly, my grandma passed I need to go

1400
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 4: away from basketball, right, So they looked at it like that,

1401
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 4: Like I was promoting the album the Break and then

1402
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 4: the crazy thing, and it was like it was like,

1403
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 4: you know those things, I just don't stop. So then

1404
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 4: so that happens, everything is cool. Could be playing well, right, right,

1405
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 4: So even Jermaine Knew was like, yeah, he's doing an album,

1406
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 4: but he's playing well. Nobody all happens. And I just

1407
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 4: signed the law.

1408
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 5: Right, just signed the law Lord.

1409
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 4: I just signed the law socause I love R and B.

1410
01:02:58,120 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 4: I love arm Be more than anything. So I want

1411
01:02:59,960 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 4: to come up.

1412
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to start.

1413
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 4: Chinky was my first artist I wanted to sign, so

1414
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 4: I didn't want to sign.

1415
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: I want to do right.

1416
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 4: I want to do but Chinky, you know it's a

1417
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 4: long time ago, right, So so then I signed in

1418
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 4: law It bro happens. I remember nineteenth, A little albums dropped.

1419
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 4: You know we're gonna twenty third, A little album is

1420
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 4: dropping a womber twenty third. Broad happens in nineteenth. Check

1421
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 4: stops on the nineteenth. Imagine that and.

1422
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 5: Didn't what did you? Who did you drop a little with?

1423
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 4: It's just me, It was just you signed a little

1424
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:28,919
Speaker 4: trying to get into music.

1425
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: But it was a distribution, wasn't it.

1426
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 11: We all, oh okay, yeah kay, yeah.

1427
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, anybody like I want to be please give a law.

1428
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 12: Listening to Stay.

1429
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: Chapter three incredible album, man.

1430
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 4: My greatest work. Yeah, but it was like I was

1431
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 4: trying to get into it and then I feel like

1432
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 4: I wanted more support. But I felt like people looked

1433
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 4: at it like I don't know, like, like you know what.

1434
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: It is when a basketball player makes that album. I

1435
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: think most people don't take them serious. It's like and

1436
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: it's like it's like when master Ple, all do respect us,

1437
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: my man, when you're trying to serious, like and he

1438
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: was serious.

1439
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 4: Look at look at I'm.

1440
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: Gonna say nathty hustle, but it's not nifty hustle.

1441
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 5: The rest of the piece of thefty hustle. But what's

1442
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 5: my man named?

1443
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: J Cole? J Cole just went to out of the

1444
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: country where I think they bust his ass. He got

1445
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: like two points. But but but us, like this guy

1446
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: is working out every day, he's going to the we're

1447
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: taking them serious. But I think it's like bite first

1448
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: because I feel like rappers always wanted to be athletes

1449
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: and athletes always wanted to be a rappers.

1450
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 4: But this is different. Okay, this is waking up in

1451
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 4: the Queen's Bridge, all right, this look think about the stories. Yeah,

1452
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 4: w w E every every Thanksgiving, that nature house, That's

1453
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 4: where I'm at. Before I knew, I didn't even know

1454
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 4: the na rapper. Wow, I was chilling Brandon in Theron. Wow,

1455
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 4: I don't even know his mom had the cakes, the cakes.

1456
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 5: I spend on.

1457
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 4: I'm at with with twin, the twin annoying my mom.

1458
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 4: All best friends, right, so all hanging out every night.

1459
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 4: So he spending night of that day, right, So I'm

1460
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 4: growing up around it. And then you find out guys

1461
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 4: is rapping and you want to be like them, like

1462
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 4: you don't want you want to try to stay out

1463
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 4: of trouble. And then so what are you guys doing?

1464
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 4: You guys is rapping because you know, you guys want

1465
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 4: to break in trouble. You guys are not. So I'm like, oh,

1466
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 4: that's how that's my plan, b right, you know, is

1467
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 4: to tell a story. And so for me it's little.

1468
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 4: I think it's a little bit different than like baller, you.

1469
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: Know, right, you from from them, like it's crazy. I'm

1470
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: bouncing around a little bit. But it's crazy how like

1471
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: like people may consider Queen's Ridge poverty, but it's not,

1472
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: like I mean, like it's actually rich. And like I

1473
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: said it earlier, I looked at Paul, probably some of

1474
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: the best times I've ever had in my life is

1475
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: in Queens. I'm talking about when I was bro not

1476
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: even like not even like like that's one of the

1477
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: almost if you want to have fun, you're gonna find

1478
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: some fun out there. Yeah, And you know, you know

1479
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: what I love about that era. I always felt like

1480
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: people always protected you from from the street, like like

1481
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: you you a street but you like, like, I don't

1482
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: think I think everyone was really protected you because I'm

1483
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: sure you seeing the same way you see rappers. I'm

1484
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: sure like when you was younger, you've seen a lot

1485
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: of drug dealers because you have block. Is crazy and

1486
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: is that true? Like the streets always kind of like

1487
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: protected you.

1488
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely able to like you, you know, Trail from

1489
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 4: twelve Street here, you know, he'll give us a dollar.

1490
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: And I remember that, you know, to make sure you

1491
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: stay out the street.

1492
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you see us hooping, you know, you guys

1493
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 4: was trying. Y'all didn't want us to be like you know,

1494
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 4: like y'all, oh you know what I mean. For the

1495
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 4: most part, you guys protected us. So guys, you know,

1496
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 4: so for me when I need it, I felt I'll

1497
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 4: be getting it like people don't. You might have beat

1498
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 4: with tramp, but I remember, gave me enough money to

1499
01:06:58,040 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 4: go buy.

1500
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 5: Some long get some longs.

1501
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get some yo. I'm sorry over the place.

1502
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something. I thought Wongs had

1503
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 1: drugs in it. Yo. It's a Chinese restaurant in Queensbridge.

1504
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: I used to come from Left Brack for Wongs like

1505
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: I'm wanna, I'm I'm going through. This is twenty first Street, right,

1506
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm going there getting Wongs. And I used to go

1507
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: to the park, but she goes from the pub.

1508
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 5: I used to like him.

1509
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: He was like the only other Spanish person. I used

1510
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: to always go there and mess with him. But Wongs,

1511
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: Wongs was so addicted. You remember Wongs. Yeah, yes, but

1512
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: that food was it? That food was like mister Chile. Yo.

1513
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: And I want to check the.

1514
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 4: Jo he walked around the.

1515
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: Fine so boom. We want to do quick time of Slim.

1516
01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: But I get explain to.

1517
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 3: All right because last here we didn't play this game.

1518
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 3: This is our drinking game. We're gonna give you two choices.

1519
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 3: You pick one, we don't drink. But if you say

1520
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 3: you don't want to pick a choice for both, or

1521
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,439
Speaker 3: you picked both, we drinking. Okay, all right, we really

1522
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 3: just want stories out.

1523
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but I got I'm picking one up to you.

1524
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: You want to pick either or. But sometimes people just

1525
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: want to be politically correct. They don't want to pay, and.

1526
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 4: That's when we drank. Okay, that's when we drank.

1527
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 1: All right, So Jordan or Kobe may get him his

1528
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 1: shots whatever he's drinking.

1529
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's your shot.

1530
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: Okay shot.

1531
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 11: The thinking about it is dope. You have to think

1532
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 11: about those guys.

1533
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 4: And I don't want to say the one because Kobe

1534
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 4: not here. So I said, he said, I Enjoydan was better.

1535
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 4: Like Kobe called me, you know what I mean? He

1536
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 4: was like, yo, ma in't true. He told me this

1537
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,719
Speaker 4: is why it ain't true. So I said the reasons

1538
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 4: why it wasn't Yeah, And I said, you're right, so

1539
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 4: I can't just.

1540
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 5: Talked for me to go back, and now let me

1541
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 5: tell you I'm joining.

1542
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 4: Was that dude?

1543
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: We take yeah? Yeah, we take one night. Okay, let

1544
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: me tell you Kobe Bryant's story real quick before you

1545
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: move on.

1546
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 5: We have mister Childs.

1547
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: One night, I just did a record with Kobe. Remember

1548
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: he was on Track Masters with Steve Stout.

1549
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 4: I got I got you, Oh he was I didn't

1550
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 4: realize that was Stell.

1551
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. So when I got on the record, I wrote

1552
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 1: his rhyme. He came to the studio like furious. He

1553
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: was like, what is that. No.

1554
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, that's for you, Like I got you.

1555
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: He was furious. He was like he's like no, no, no, no,

1556
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: I write my own rocks. And I was like, okay,

1557
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: you know, I was cool. I was like, you know,

1558
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: he's competitive, Like even in a field where he's not

1559
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: a professional's competitive.

1560
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 5: So we went I definitely raised the verse.

1561
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 1: I definitely.

1562
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 5: I definitely raised the verse.

1563
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: And then, uh, I don't know if we went out

1564
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 1: to the dinner together or we bumped each other again

1565
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 1: at dinner. So we're in mir Chiles. You know. You know,

1566
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: mister Childs is minty seventh Street. You know what the

1567
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: closest hood to that is.

1568
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 5: Seezberg.

1569
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: So me like the idiot I am. I look at

1570
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: Kobe in his face and I'm like I could take

1571
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: you one on one right now. I'm I'm drunk out

1572
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: of my mind, but in my mind, I think I

1573
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 1: could take Kobe right now. So Kobe, there's not much

1574
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: of a competitive dude. He is, bro, He's I'm thinking.

1575
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: He looked at me like, where's the nearest court, like

1576
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: the fact that he even thought about it. So I

1577
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: was like, yo, queensbridges right down block, Like we could

1578
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: literally like this, this this is the bridge right here,

1579
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: we just go across the street.

1580
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 5: And the man thought about it, he thought about it.

1581
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 1: I really was wanting to be like, hell no, Kobe,

1582
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 1: I'm playing around like but I sat there. That's how

1583
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: much of a dog he was in real life. He

1584
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: didn't want me.

1585
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 5: To have that on him, to say, Yo, I challenge

1586
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 5: you for.

1587
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 1: To play ball and Queens right down the block like

1588
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: it literally is like four or five minutes away, And

1589
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 1: he thought about it, like this is how much that

1590
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: she would have abably been crazy. I was so glad

1591
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: he was like at the very last and he was

1592
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, no, like or stop someone someone

1593
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 1: stopped there, and I was just like, but we were

1594
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 1: we were respectful.

1595
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 5: But I'm like, there's no way I could beat Kobe.

1596
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,759
Speaker 1: I got like, but that's how that's how crazy is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1597
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 4: Yeah Lebron or k d mm okay Lebron, but not

1598
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 4: that not so fast, okay, right because the k these

1599
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 4: got dude, I think, I mean because Lebron because of

1600
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 4: what you see. If you're going, you know Lebron, Now

1601
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 4: you say Lebron, Jordan, we gotta talk about it because

1602
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 4: Lebron got some stuff. But then I can go to

1603
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 4: non scoring titles and eight and ten times playing eighty two.

1604
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 11: Games, right right?

1605
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1606
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 5: So you can go eighty games ten times.

1607
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 4: I could played eighty two games ten times when we

1608
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 4: was in the liquors gods, just like, yeah, I'm playing

1609
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 4: eighty two this year.

1610
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 5: That's like a goal to get up to eighty.

1611
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1612
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 1: People taking no breakage, most people get hurt.

1613
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 4: And Korebe played eighty two that year. I play eighty two.

1614
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 4: But I think the starting five maybe not maybe maybe

1615
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 4: buying them didn't play eighty two.

1616
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 11: Wow, they just said that about Anthony Davis.

1617
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 5: He said that I saw it. I just saw it

1618
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 5: for eighty two games.

1619
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: That's what he said. Wait wait, wait, who was said

1620
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 1: that Anthony Davis. Yeah, he's he's in Dallas now. I

1621
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: don't know how the championship Laco in the.

1622
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 2: Labron, he's like available for eighty two.

1623
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 4: Sometimes you're gonna be limping, so you gotta be smart,

1624
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 4: like if you got a cash strain, you can't do

1625
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 4: too much. You gotta relax like you could get you

1626
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 4: want to play like you heard somewhere. Like for example,

1627
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 4: when I when I have my surgery here and this finger, Wow,

1628
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 4: damn me. So I have three surgeries on this finger.

1629
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 4: So I got surgery and they said you're gonna be

1630
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 4: out eight weeks. So I'm mean I'm in the pacer.

1631
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 4: I said, no, I'm not. I said, once I get

1632
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 4: the cast, I'm playing right, And he was like, no,

1633
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 4: you're not. I said, watch me what I said, Vince

1634
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 4: is playing. I'm playing against Vincent a week. I am

1635
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 4: miss Vince Cunner. And you're going YouTube, You're going Google.

1636
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 4: I mean you'll see my fucking hand rapped.

1637
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 11: Yeah like this much?

1638
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, big rat.

1639
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 4: And that's the crazy. That's the difference.

1640
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 11: Who protects you at that moment? Well in your circling,

1641
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 11: don't look like.

1642
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 4: I'm playing the game now from a contract perspective. So

1643
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 4: now I'm playing where I had ten surgeries on my hand,

1644
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 4: right that one three surgeries and then I got three.

1645
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: I didn't get.

1646
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 4: I just in funny, right, But Fat Joe got a story.

1647
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 4: I'll did just split right here. Fat Joe got a story.

1648
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 4: I'll do from the record.

1649
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 1: I think in the championship is split all the way

1650
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: down there.

1651
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 4: It was wide open, you know what I mean. I

1652
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 4: wrapped the shit with Tish fell tape. But were playing

1653
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 4: in those areas like the Knicks said play right, So

1654
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 4: that's how I come from the Nick. I were like, Okay,

1655
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 4: we're not We're not sitting out the game. My last

1656
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 4: injury had a miniscus tear. They said, you're gonna be

1657
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 4: out six weeks on the Lakers. I said, no, I'm not.

1658
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 4: I said, the playoffs is next week with the Lakers

1659
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 4: were Spurs. It was the only time to Nash Howard,

1660
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 4: I don't know when next time I'm playing with these guys.

1661
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 4: I ain't missing that right. So I got a picture

1662
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 4: with these guys playing just got swept right, and also

1663
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 4: didn't want to miss playing against Kawhi Leonner. I'm the

1664
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 4: Kawhi Leonard. Ain't Tim duncan I ain't missing that right,

1665
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 4: and but that ended my career like that. So now

1666
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 4: on the other side, when God is sitting out, I

1667
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 4: would say sit out because now you go back for

1668
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 4: negotiations and they say you only average fifteen, I.

1669
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 11: Say, come on, or you're injury prone.

1670
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 4: You know I can't do certain things? Did I can't?

1671
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 4: I can't go for some rebounds, So now box and

1672
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 4: I was saying, Okay, I know I can get him

1673
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 4: that rebound. You know, I don't even want go brea.

1674
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 4: Keep my heads, you know what I mean?

1675
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 2: So how about that that famous Mark Jackson statement coach

1676
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 2: Mark Jackson when he was like, you got to tell

1677
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 2: your body not today.

1678
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 11: I'm not I'm not hurt today. Is that something that

1679
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 11: you ever heard of?

1680
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 1: It you ever heard of that? No?

1681
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 4: I didn't hear that saying that was.

1682
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 1: With a d or or somebody that got hurt. And

1683
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: he was like, no, you got to tell your body not.

1684
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 4: Now you got to be smart too. But there's a

1685
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 4: lot of money at risk. But so you your stats

1686
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 4: right now, that's what they're saying. So your status is

1687
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:44,560
Speaker 4: the difference between a hundred million and you know, so

1688
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,599
Speaker 4: you know, so what you're gonna do no, of course,

1689
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 4: that's business. It's from my perspective, was different because I

1690
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 4: can win without scoring, and I can win without rebounding.

1691
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 4: So what I'm telling them is and I did it,

1692
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 4: and I still did it, But I never got like

1693
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 4: a twelve. You never seen people think I got a

1694
01:15:55,880 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 4: maxed Ol. I ain't never seen him that contract, not

1695
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 4: with Houston. No, that's not six MILLI six miles. And

1696
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 4: most have a son because of trouble, you know what

1697
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 4: I mean, because that's what you know what I mean

1698
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 4: it was. It was a lot of that, but also

1699
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 4: like the performance, so you know, but yeah, I was saying, yeah, let's.

1700
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 1: Get back to God, don't play. You got this?

1701
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 4: Okay, the next one, Kyrie or a I. That's an

1702
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 4: interesting one. Kyrie or a I has a Kyrie has

1703
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 4: the title. I feel like a I honestly because certain people,

1704
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go a I. I ain't saying Kyrie are nice, nice,

1705
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 4: A good choice. Yeah, LL I'm gonna go with NAS.

1706
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 4: Just have a shout. Also, okay, shots are here, but

1707
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 4: I think L has a great body at work. LL

1708
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 4: did to a different audience. Yeah, but it's okay, you know,

1709
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 4: I think nas is like just two legendary people. You

1710
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 4: gotta listen to the rap he could rap.

1711
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 1: They have more beef than it in terms of beef.

1712
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 4: Well, and now it's got great music. I think that

1713
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 4: is the greatest rapper honestly. Honestly, Yeah, me too. Yeah, man,

1714
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 4: I think that it's the greatest rapper era because but

1715
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 4: I think in terms of more beef, I think l

1716
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 4: had a sizeable amount.

1717
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think sizeable.

1718
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 4: It's one of the first artists I think had the

1719
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 4: first beef for real, Like he's doing R and B,

1720
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 4: so he gotta be like, I ain't no sucker.

1721
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: He was. He was starting. He was starting instigated because

1722
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 1: if you go way back to kum D. Yeah, I

1723
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 1: can't go that far. I can't know what I can't say.

1724
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 1: I can't say if he started that. But the Cannabis thing,

1725
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: I really do think he started. I really do. And

1726
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 1: at the time, like Cannabis was one of the most

1727
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 1: vicious people.

1728
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 5: On the mic.

1729
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: In fact, remember Cannabis, he felt Cannabis went at him

1730
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 1: on the Yeah, he didn't start it necessarily, No, he.

1731
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 5: Didn't mean that.

1732
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 4: Come on, I mean, it wasn't.

1733
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 1: Cannabis was going there.

1734
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 5: He was going.

1735
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: Canabis went there. He went there.

1736
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 4: Keep in mind, I like, I love cannabis more than

1737
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 4: a lot of people. Now, cannabis is done. Man.

1738
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 1: He was a cannabis was He was a lyric on

1739
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: top of the lyrical food chain.

1740
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, I like cannabis lyrics. You know, I

1741
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 4: love cannabis honestly, man. And that was tough.

1742
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: But I think he just started and they all did

1743
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: what he had to do, and it was a classic record.

1744
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 1: They both It was on the same ricord class that

1745
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: was cannabis at the time.

1746
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 4: As a kid, I was on canabis side because I'm

1747
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 4: a kid, right, so you know I'm a cannabis fan.

1748
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 11: What he said, trained to run a hundred miles, I'm

1749
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 11: soft saying.

1750
01:18:55,920 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 1: Nah said female rappers too. I don't give a boy

1751
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 1: you realize Foxy just went She literally just just around then,

1752
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: like he said that we should play cannabis and coke

1753
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 1: and get to get in them. Okay, yes, but hold on,

1754
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: let let me have a little little twist to it.

1755
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: Nas or jay Z Man, that's not a little twist.

1756
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 4: I didn't know. I'm say Nas the greatest, but let

1757
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 4: me let me not start there. Okay, let me start there,

1758
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 4: because that's like being biased and all that stuff. I

1759
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 4: love Volume one. I was one of those guys when

1760
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 4: Jay said, I'm my whole album.

1761
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm like.

1762
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:42,600
Speaker 5: You with my old ship, my ship, you know what

1763
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 5: I mean.

1764
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 4: So Volume one was that thing. Volume two was good too.

1765
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 4: I didn't get into jay Z until Cedric Williams from

1766
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 4: Tell Street. All your friends know, Okay, I ain't getting

1767
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 4: to you. Got listening to jay Z. Got listened to

1768
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,600
Speaker 4: jay Z. But I'm listening to them all deep. I

1769
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 4: love long Deep guy, I love Veterans Memorial.

1770
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: So we're going as I'm going as. Okay, hey you

1771
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: could you could get the next one? Jayleen Brunston or

1772
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 1: Steph Curry.

1773
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, seven thirty seventh Curry right now?

1774
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 1: Okay, twenty ten okay, but ahead.

1775
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 4: Finished seventh Curry right now. Jeleen Bronston is dope.

1776
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, twenty ten Lakers or twenty twenty six Knicks.

1777
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 4: Oh shit, I'll about take a shot because I didn't

1778
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 4: take that quick, you know what I mean.

1779
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 5: He's on go time with you cool? So oh yeah, sorry,

1780
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 5: we took it.

1781
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 1: Come on, let's do it, Let's do it. I'm more

1782
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 1: noise show. So you know what I mean, let's do

1783
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:49,599
Speaker 1: it all right? Cool?

1784
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 4: So two thousand ten Lakers versus.

1785
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: Who twenty twenty six Knicks. All right, I'm gonna go

1786
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: with us one hundred, Yeah, say with us.

1787
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 4: I love them, guys. I gotta got my whole jerseys.

1788
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 4: Game four, I got the best thing signed by the way,

1789
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 4: Game four I want.

1790
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm on the floor.

1791
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 4: They say world peace. We need world peace right now, right,

1792
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 4: so I say world peace, and Jael and Brunson signing

1793
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 4: and the whole Nick team signed it. I'm a Knicks fan.

1794
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna go there right now, but I'm a

1795
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 4: huge Knick fan. But all right, I'm.

1796
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:29,560
Speaker 1: Your three favorite team teams is Knicks, Bulls, and it

1797
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 1: switches your third one.

1798
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 4: I love the Knicks, but my favorite team is the Bulls.

1799
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 1: The Bulls and and Jordan Bulls. Jordan Bulls, okay because of.

1800
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 4: Them, and then the Nick but I never wanted to

1801
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 4: see them beat the Knicks. So the Knicks was the

1802
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 4: beat the Bulls ass in the championship. I'm I'm very happy,

1803
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 4: you know what.

1804
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy about being the Knicks fan and

1805
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm me being a Knicks fan, and I think I'm

1806
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 1: two years older than you, right, But and did you

1807
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 1: play with Reggie Miller?

1808
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 4: I played with Reggie.

1809
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1810
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 1: Reggie used to kill us every year, like you can't

1811
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 1: every Yeah, listen, I took it so worse to the

1812
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: one time I went to All Star Weekend when I

1813
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: became Norri this is afterwards, and Reggie Miller walked into

1814
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 1: the room, I walked out. I didn't want to say

1815
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: add to him because of how he used to kill

1816
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: the Knicks. But then later on I got to forgive

1817
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 1: him because you on the team.

1818
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 5: Crazy for I got to forgive him like that that year,

1819
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 5: like he was the o G at that time too.

1820
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 5: It was like that was just that.

1821
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 1: Wasn't that his last year?

1822
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 2: No?

1823
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 4: Last?

1824
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? Was it?

1825
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1826
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,600
Speaker 4: I played Reggie before his last year, and then I

1827
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 4: was suspended his last year. Okay, yeah, I'm the reason

1828
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 4: he don't got a championship and he got one. In

1829
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:38,759
Speaker 4: my heart yeah.

1830
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:43,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, you say what you think that the reason he championship?

1831
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:45,600
Speaker 4: Yeah? Definitely because I was suspended.

1832
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 1: But he used to But back then he used to

1833
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: whip the Knicks ass and that didn't wasn't.

1834
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 4: That always was also Ja's best. I was second best.

1835
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 1: Okay, wow, okay, yeah, all right, yeah.

1836
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 4: Man, So but your question, oh sorry not to say

1837
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 4: on the paces. So why the pacers? Guy? So last year,

1838
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 4: the next players the Pacers. I'm room for the next

1839
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,959
Speaker 4: I'm room for the Pacers, and I make it clear because.

1840
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 11: One they want in the stands for me, I'm sorry.

1841
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1842
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 4: And then also Sean Green nots Blocked drafted to the

1843
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 4: paces Flemming my block.

1844
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, he was the pace. Yes, you know

1845
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: what I mean.

1846
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 4: And then me Don Block had a traffic the Pacers,

1847
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 4: and I played for the Pacers. So the Pacers is

1848
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,719
Speaker 4: always for many reasons they won. I would say Nicks

1849
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 4: in the Lakers, the Lakers, the Knicks and the Lakers.

1850
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 1: Is like.

1851
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 5: For me, yeah, yeah, yeah, you could do the next

1852
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 5: cone or nature.

1853
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

1854
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 5: Take your old.

1855
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 11: Anwer.

1856
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:56,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna answer. You're gonna answer.

1857
01:23:58,360 --> 01:23:59,759
Speaker 15: You honestly.

1858
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 4: I see why we don't have to get you much

1859
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 4: deeper terms. We're supposed to go on vacation together, that's right,

1860
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 4: we didn't.

1861
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's funny. Funny. I said, I wouldn't tell

1862
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:14,759
Speaker 1: the story, but you gotta explaining the nature. It's funny,

1863
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 1: Like I read this house. This beautiful house. Did you

1864
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: read the great Yeah? And beautiful? And then it's a

1865
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 1: beautiful house next to us. And I'm hearing his voice

1866
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he's hear my voice. Be right next

1867
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 1: door to each other. Leave no way, he leaves over,

1868
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: Like why smoke?

1869
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 4: I see this, dude, I see this, and I can't.

1870
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 1: Hearing your voice. That's why I was like, I know

1871
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 1: that voice.

1872
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,600
Speaker 4: Like ahead, you see He's like, you know, yeah, you

1873
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 4: know right?

1874
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: Dare you smoking? We actually came over the smoked yeah,

1875
01:24:56,479 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: ma wait.

1876
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 5: I'm like that was crazy.

1877
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: I remember that was one of the first times I

1878
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: heard you say a venture capitalists.

1879
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 5: I said, he was with your vin capitalists home boys,

1880
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:15,719
Speaker 5: and I was with my partners a lot of stuff.

1881
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 5: I was like, damn, what the is the pal capitalists.

1882
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:18,719
Speaker 1: I didn't know what you were talking.

1883
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:20,719
Speaker 5: I didn't want to say.

1884
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said.

1885
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 5: I was like, I was gonna get some different type

1886
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 5: of money.

1887
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 1: You're in the media business, and I was hitting my media,

1888
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: my media partner.

1889
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, that's right right there.

1890
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 1: That's fine.

1891
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 4: Also like and I was like, yo, I said, this

1892
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 4: is the guy. I said, no, you don't understand. Put

1893
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 4: down the blood in order to help your You know

1894
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 4: what I mean? That was dope.

1895
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 1: Okay, but you if you want to ask the componer, nature,

1896
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 1: you are.

1897
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he said, both thought help because I'm I'm in

1898
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 4: there and now cover cover is great.

1899
01:25:56,520 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 1: I love he said both. He said, both said I'm

1900
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I'm gonna do it.

1901
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so sorry, yes, and you're in the Russian I

1902
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 4: get you.

1903
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 1: No, I don't know.

1904
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:06,600
Speaker 4: There you go, all right, So.

1905
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 11: You don't speak no, no, don't win in no Russian.

1906
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nature wrote your first while.

1907
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 4: Nature Nature wrote my first round six six two forty

1908
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 4: new shure these new agents, What can you do for me? Niggas?

1909
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 4: Try to warn me about the pressure of prose and

1910
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 4: what it takes to be a star? Mad Questions of Rose,

1911
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 4: Question number one, why did I leave school? If you

1912
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 4: ask me, it was my best move? Sixteenth pick never

1913
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 4: seen ship. In fact, the only niggas I knew was

1914
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,679
Speaker 4: my queen's click, try and fly and get your wings clipped.

1915
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 4: The nature man.

1916
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:43,839
Speaker 5: Understand.

1917
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 4: Honestly, I would just do a verse and leave.

1918
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 1: I was busy. I got almost three hundred songs. I

1919
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:52,560
Speaker 1: just do it first, leaving people and I throw it

1920
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 1: out there. I don't care. I throw it out.

1921
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 4: I'll be like gues you should trasy. I ain't even recorded,

1922
01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 4: I got whatever, But but I would go to Nature.

1923
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 4: Right now, I'm gonna go a Capone. Got better body

1924
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 4: of work. Nature had a chance. We all know that

1925
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 4: Nature had a chance. But Capole have a way better

1926
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 4: body of work. They both lyricists. But you're probably gonna

1927
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,679
Speaker 4: give us a capone because he's still putting that work.

1928
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 4: But the Nature, we we gotta admit Nature had the times.

1929
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 1: Mann that Nature time was serious. You got one night

1930
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 1: one time.

1931
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 5: He was the hottest.

1932
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: He was the hottest in Queens for sure, probably New

1933
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 1: York Man for sure, probably New York.

1934
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 4: So I took so one sing I say about Nature

1935
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:36,640
Speaker 4: is like he's creative. I was talking. I speak to

1936
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 4: Nature all the time right sometimes and I think, like,

1937
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 4: like what you're doing? This inspired me? Man, I said,

1938
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 4: this is great. Y'all understand if you asked me in

1939
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 4: two thousand and two, you gonna do the podcast and

1940
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 4: talking and interviewing people. Know, no, no, no, he's not

1941
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 4: doing man, trust me with guy like Nature is like guys,

1942
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 4: it's tapping up into your other your other thing.

1943
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: Okay, this is this is I think it's gonna be

1944
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 1: easy for you Mob deep or mop.

1945
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 4: Alright, I'm gonna deep.

1946
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 1: But I definitely.

1947
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 4: I never met them deep anway, cause I always say

1948
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 4: I love the Mob. It's crazy that I can make

1949
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 4: an argument that I'm from a neighborhood with the best artist.

1950
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 4: That's enough, Like yeah, I can get a chance to say, yeah,

1951
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 4: I'm nah, you have the best artist, by the way,

1952
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 4: and and yeah, there's arguments to be made. Everybody feel

1953
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 4: like that the Mob. You know, Veterans Memorial is my

1954
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 4: best song from the mall, that's my best song. I

1955
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 4: tell alchemists I'm the alchemist is the only number I

1956
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 4: know about heart and my grandma number. But I can

1957
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 4: tell your alchemist's number one call them right now. Every

1958
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 4: time I see algemist, I tell on the phone number.

1959
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 4: But yeah, I will just go with the Mob. And

1960
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 4: for many reasons, and I also get I got to

1961
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 4: see Ray Quorn perform for any Now, keep in mind,

1962
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 4: I listened I for I like ten thousand times, right,

1963
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 4: and but I never knew.

1964
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 1: I would see for I perform live, you know. And

1965
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 1: it was crazy.

1966
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 5: And it was all four of them there, it was.

1967
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,639
Speaker 4: It was Ray kwe it was nice.

1968
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 1: I think I think was going okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,

1969
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 1: but you know what.

1970
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:17,680
Speaker 4: I mean, And I've seen it live and for me,

1971
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 4: that was I've never seen it live before and that's

1972
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 4: like probably five or five top songs in my life.

1973
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's an incredible song.

1974
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but anyway, can go on and on a.

1975
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:35,719
Speaker 1: Drug dealer's dreams, stash scream keys under like a gentleman.

1976
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 1: Women was on your head. So the.

1977
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 4: Metropolist shoot out, the Holy Beast is watching.

1978
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 1: Us, Okay, Larry Bird or Magic Jump, Oh.

1979
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 4: Larry Bird or magical Larry Bird or anybody honestly, Yeah,

1980
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 4: I mean Larry j But Larry was that dude. If

1981
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:07,600
Speaker 4: you look at today's game of Larry Gay, Larry is

1982
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 4: getting n one three point shots. So when you talk

1983
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 4: about Larry Biry being the best three point shooter, you're

1984
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 4: talking about Jesus and ones. That's what you're talking about.

1985
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 4: So and then magic is obviously great. So that's why

1986
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 4: I say magic is humble magics, like, yeah, you know

1987
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 4: these number one Magic is that dude? Like, But I

1988
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 4: think at the end of the day, if Larry wasn't

1989
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 4: hurt prow to go with Larry, but I think the

1990
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 4: body of work, you're gonna go with Magic.

1991
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:37,680
Speaker 10: Okay, what's a good Magic Johnson's story that you have

1992
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 10: from playing with la because you know, you always stay

1993
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 10: close to the team.

1994
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:42,559
Speaker 4: I mean for me, Magic is like I seen him

1995
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 4: pay against the Bulls, but I was a Bulls faner

1996
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:45,640
Speaker 4: you understand, I was a Bulls faner so as I

1997
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 4: was a fan one time. So I didn't really see

1998
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,680
Speaker 4: Magic a lot, but seeing his business moves was the

1999
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 4: main thing.

2000
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 11: Like what what is that?

2001
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 1: Starbucks? Starbucks?

2002
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:55,440
Speaker 4: The first.

2003
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 2: Is like what?

2004
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 4: Like that was like something that we were not thinking

2005
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 4: into the So I love Magic for that honestly. The

2006
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 4: basketball piece like then you get competitive, Like I'm comparing

2007
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 4: how I would have played against Will. So for me

2008
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 4: sometimes it's like I'm like.

2009
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:14,599
Speaker 1: Okay, you're talking about anybody.

2010
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:16,720
Speaker 11: We would have probably.

2011
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 4: Dominated just like anybody. So we got I got that

2012
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 4: kind of feelings about about Magic and also but my

2013
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:24,839
Speaker 4: his business.

2014
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 11: You got the Dodgers, he got the buying teams do it.

2015
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 4: But you didn't even think that was possible.

2016
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 1: This is a good one and this is production obviously,

2017
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 1: Molly ma or Havoc.

2018
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:46,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy, Molly Ma, have it. That is incredible.

2019
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you got shot. You don't want to answer?

2020
01:31:54,080 --> 01:32:00,600
Speaker 1: Ye uh yeah. I think want to do this for

2021
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 1: him for a while, because Havoc will say that if

2022
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't for Marty Ma, he wouldn't be I think

2023
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:05,679
Speaker 1: that's what happened.

2024
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,640
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's a good argument. And also I

2025
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 4: just want to say, I'm drinking tequilo.

2026
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,639
Speaker 5: Yes, it's an upper yes, yes.

2027
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 4: And I'm also drinking copper natural. This is alcohol, this

2028
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 4: is worth and I'm smoking marijuana is from there, and

2029
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 4: this has no and there's no attitudes. Mister Lee, thank you. Yeah, yes,

2030
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:31,679
Speaker 4: but yeah, so I'm gonna go with have it. Yeah,

2031
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go have it. I'm gonna go yeah, because

2032
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 4: I think that's his body of work is incredible. I mean,

2033
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 4: just growing up in that I didn't start listening to

2034
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 4: rapp until ninety three. I'm an R and B guy.

2035
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 4: My favorite artist s WV. I I met him for

2036
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 4: the first time.

2037
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 2: W Yeah, I thought you was gonna say, Bobby Oh no,

2038
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 2: Bobby Brown, No, no, no.

2039
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 4: I'm SVV for the first time in my life. A

2040
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 4: year ago, I couldn't even.

2041
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 1: Move drink chance.

2042
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 11: They never been.

2043
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 1: No, let me get let me get the I ain't

2044
01:32:59,200 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 1: even talking that.

2045
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 4: I love s w V. And I saw him per phone.

2046
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 4: I saw him perform rain. You know what I mean.

2047
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 4: Marry performed last week.

2048
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 5: I want to be skipping in the next one.

2049
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Phil Jackson or pat Riley kill Jackson? Okay,

2050
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 1: obviously you and pat Riley squashed it. You have people,

2051
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 1: pat I see you scream. Let me tell you what happened.

2052
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 1: Person everything only person. I see floboard.

2053
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:34,720
Speaker 4: Let me tell you what happened. Who's the editor?

2054
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 1: Your hand? Yeah?

2055
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 5: Oh you see?

2056
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 4: Now check out you see how you raise his hand right.

2057
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 4: The cameras on him. So the cameras on him. Yeah,

2058
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 4: because he didn't want to say he was an editor,

2059
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 4: and so thank you for that.

2060
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 11: All right?

2061
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 4: So now who edited to that?

2062
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 11: Who is the editor?

2063
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2064
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:57,680
Speaker 5: Okay, because man, come on.

2065
01:33:57,800 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 11: Man, you can tell the story, right.

2066
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 4: So okay, So what happened was I'm playing against the heat?

2067
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:03,679
Speaker 1: I know it was Miami.

2068
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 4: I'm in Miami.

2069
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 1: I got a different.

2070
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 4: Relationship with Miami because I was putting work in that building.

2071
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 1: So but then why would I be for against Patroll?

2072
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 4: I have no reason. I never be for the heir coach,

2073
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

2074
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:17,480
Speaker 1: But the way they edited.

2075
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 4: What happened was we was going at it. I'm cooking, Miami.

2076
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 4: There's nobody that could guard me. All your favorites right

2077
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 4: in that time, that time, that's a different time. So

2078
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:42,720
Speaker 4: they're too small. So guys don't got me right soon.

2079
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:46,640
Speaker 4: So we're just playing and we enter it. There was

2080
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 4: no fight, there was no texts, there was no flickran

2081
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 4: files right, but you got that's my that's my guy,

2082
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 4: like you know, mister gret Lamar owed him. Wait for

2083
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 4: they all hair so so those are my friends of

2084
01:34:58,320 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 4: Koran Butler. These guys my friends. But we don't have

2085
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 4: so that's that's that's the energy in the building. That's all.

2086
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 4: So then beginning or something I hate Coach Mack could do,

2087
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 4: not to do, could do what's his name? Sorry, coach mcado, Sorry,

2088
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:13,679
Speaker 4: but that's so so maculdo.

2089
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm talking. I ain't talking to him. I'm talking to

2090
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 1: a man. I didn't even think about you.

2091
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 4: He's like, what are you talking about? So for me,

2092
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 4: I said, okay, I'll stoop down to people's lovels.

2093
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:28,639
Speaker 1: That's not down.

2094
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 4: But I should not be arguing to coach, so I'm like,

2095
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:36,720
Speaker 4: look at you too, us up, but he started If

2096
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:38,680
Speaker 4: you look at it frame by friend, you see he

2097
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 4: started the initiation right, but I was talking about you

2098
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 4: guys can't guard me.

2099
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 1: So I did point in a direction.

2100
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 4: So then anyway, and then as I was moving away

2101
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 4: talking to him, I had pat Radley that we had

2102
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:53,799
Speaker 4: no confrontation.

2103
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:57,000
Speaker 1: It was just I wasn't even pushing him.

2104
01:35:57,640 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 4: But I'm a big guy, like and I'm big at

2105
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 4: that time, so I'm just moving like y'all could get it.

2106
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 11: But I'm just.

2107
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:07,720
Speaker 4: Right, and then pat Rally is like, calmed down, so

2108
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 4: what so so let's talk about Parally in that moment,

2109
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 4: he was just telling me to calm down. Like I've

2110
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 4: seen pat Rally. I've never had issue Parally in that moment.

2111
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:19,120
Speaker 4: You see how he grabbed me. It wasn't malicious, but

2112
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 4: I just kept talking to Bob like and I kind

2113
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 4: of like yet, so that's how it looked. So me

2114
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 4: and Parral, I respect what what they're doing.

2115
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 1: You said you were you were saying something. I was

2116
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 1: talking to somebody.

2117
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 4: I was talking to somebody and then coach Marcael who

2118
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:36,759
Speaker 4: popped up and then I accident you know pat Rally,

2119
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 4: and that's it.

2120
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 1: I didn't think that was the moment, but.

2121
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 4: They made a story talking about it right now, looks

2122
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:48,639
Speaker 4: like a him like this was between me and coach Mark,

2123
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 4: had nothing to do with coach pat Rally. And then

2124
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 4: he's a player, right, He's a player who he played

2125
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 4: for Coach Bob. He was a good player, right, shout

2126
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:01,439
Speaker 4: to coaching coach Bob. This old, right, but a lot

2127
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:03,720
Speaker 4: of respect as a player. I'm forty six years old.

2128
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:07,720
Speaker 4: But he's also competitive. But that's how I feel right now.

2129
01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 4: And in his time he was big. So what he's

2130
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 4: saying this time, I can have took you wrong. Were

2131
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 4: on some basketball shit. So we're like, yeah, I know you're.

2132
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:24,720
Speaker 1: Old, but you can get it, you know what I mean?

2133
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 1: You know what, they made it a story. I was like, okay,

2134
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 1: all right, better way age you are basketball.

2135
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 4: I'm still is basketball. I'm still looking at these guys.

2136
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 4: I'm sizing them up. I can't guard him, I know

2137
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:39,640
Speaker 4: I can't guard him, but I'm sizing everybody up.

2138
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:44,839
Speaker 1: Okay, ninety six Bulls or seventeen Warriors.

2139
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 4: Damn ninety six Bulls seven. I'm gonna go with the Bulls. Yeah, yeah,

2140
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:52,679
Speaker 4: I mean I'm definitely go with the bulls. You can't

2141
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 4: guard him.

2142
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 8: That.

2143
01:37:55,320 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 1: You can't guard Mike, all right, you can't guard Mike. Okay,

2144
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:05,639
Speaker 1: Uh Kareem or Wilt Chamberlain.

2145
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 4: Wow, Kareem or Wilt Chamberlain. Okay, Well, I feel like,

2146
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 4: what's the greatest player ever? You know what I mean?

2147
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 4: Because of why he's done? And you look at Kareem.

2148
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 4: If you look at Kareem's body of work, you'll see,

2149
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 4: you know, you'll see that he he has an argument

2150
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 4: against Lebron. You'll see that because of the college record. Well,

2151
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 4: you look at Will look at his stats fifty and

2152
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 4: they say, oh, he couldn't have did he couldn't have

2153
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 4: done that. Today he played against Kareem abdu Jabal and

2154
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:39,600
Speaker 4: he's also and Kareem played against Hakeem right right. The

2155
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 4: lineage is there? Yeah, to make so you when you

2156
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 4: look at that lineage one hundred points and.

2157
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:45,640
Speaker 1: People don't really understand that.

2158
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 2: The argument about uh Kareem saying the college games, yeah,

2159
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 2: I want can you speak a little bit on it?

2160
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 4: I mean, so the argument on Kareean playing the college

2161
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 4: games is that he's won national titles at.

2162
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 1: U C l a, no, no, no, I'm sorry, I'm

2163
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 1: thinking some other ship.

2164
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 2: But Lebron's longevity in the NBA is because he skipped

2165
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 2: four years of college.

2166
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 4: Okay, so in terms of years, they both played the

2167
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 4: same amount of time. Kareean played more, right, Yeah, played

2168
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 4: more And that's why you got to make the argument

2169
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:15,479
Speaker 4: of screen because he played more years. He also went

2170
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 4: to college and he was able to sustain that greatness

2171
01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 4: freshman year, right right, you know? And then yeah, so

2172
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 4: that's why people don't know about Kareem, but he has

2173
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 4: an argument to be the greatest. At some point, they're

2174
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 4: gonna do the math got at some.

2175
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 1: Point they didn't go to college. And the first year

2176
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 1: he kind of sat on the bench.

2177
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, that's straight in there, that's true. Right, But

2178
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 15: if you think's first four years and he played on

2179
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 15: the freshman team, he played in the freshman team. Yeah,

2180
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 15: he played in the freshman team. Wow, and that does

2181
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 15: not happen today.

2182
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:47,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, So Cam or Mace, yeh, that's crazy. Cam

2183
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:49,680
Speaker 4: shout out the camp cams. My guy, shout out the

2184
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 4: cam because you know, I text him and that's why guy.

2185
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 4: And then Mace. I played with Mace. I know Cam's

2186
01:39:56,080 --> 01:40:00,120
Speaker 4: guys shout out to Calvin and and Dipset all you guys, but.

2187
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 1: Mace, it's not it's not easy.

2188
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 4: But when you look at who makes performed like he

2189
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 4: performed Biggie and we are we going to just discredit them,

2190
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 4: you know, I'm gonna add that. And because Cam is.

2191
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 5: Also yeah, he's he was created, but Cam was signed

2192
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 5: a Biggie.

2193
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:23,120
Speaker 4: I didn't know that, certainly, I didn't know. But they

2194
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 4: also Cam created Max, not created Max B. But he

2195
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:26,880
Speaker 4: was in that Max B R right, they at some

2196
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:30,680
Speaker 4: point in time they was working together. Max B is

2197
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 4: more Jim Jones Okay, sorry, leading Jim Jones.

2198
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:34,519
Speaker 11: Yeah, all right, So.

2199
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 4: There's an argument to be made that Cam was in

2200
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:41,680
Speaker 4: the group, you know what I mean, of course, And

2201
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 4: then this argument because when you look at Max B,

2202
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 4: I mean who.

2203
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 1: He came home and got on fire.

2204
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:48,320
Speaker 4: I was actually signing Max B before he went in.

2205
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:54,400
Speaker 4: I was trying to get him out of the Jones contract. Yeah,

2206
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:56,200
Speaker 4: but then it was hard because of everything he's going through.

2207
01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 4: But I was trying to I was trying to get

2208
01:40:57,920 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 4: that contract.

2209
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:00,720
Speaker 1: He was trying to sign Max B just to buy him.

2210
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 1: Jim Jones, Oh, okay, because it sounds like you said

2211
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 1: you was signing to Max.

2212
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no business.

2213
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:05,600
Speaker 2: He was.

2214
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:07,360
Speaker 4: It's on YouTube is a video shout out the map.

2215
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:09,160
Speaker 4: It's good to see him. I don't I don't get

2216
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 4: people's business, but it's good to it's good to see

2217
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 4: him home.

2218
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:15,880
Speaker 5: Okay, Shack or Wimby Man.

2219
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 4: I'm going with Shock. Thank you for asking that today. Yeah,

2220
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 4: you have bet for Shack to be for Shock.

2221
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 2: You snuffed my No, I didn't Snufflet's boxing.

2222
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 4: I saw it this morning. Man, was Brad Miller my

2223
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 4: gout in Chicago. It's only the Shock is a beast.

2224
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 4: But Brad Miller foul Shack Hall, he's in Chicago. So

2225
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 4: keep in mind this is year Lagas one. He was

2226
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:45,880
Speaker 4: the worsteam and lead. We had thirteen wins. He beat

2227
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:46,639
Speaker 4: the Lagas twice.

2228
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:48,560
Speaker 1: But it was like one of those games. Man. He

2229
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 1: just got joked that night.

2230
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 4: So Brad foul shocked hard and then Shaq tries to

2231
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 4: punch brad head off. So what happens is Oakley goes in,

2232
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 4: So no pus you go. Oakley go right right, because

2233
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:06,960
Speaker 4: if you don't go with Oakley, go but you're in

2234
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 4: the locker room it's gonna be a problem. He bought

2235
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:09,639
Speaker 4: that life.

2236
01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he smacked in the back of the head one time. Yeah,

2237
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 1: so it's like openly double ship twice.

2238
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:19,760
Speaker 2: Did you did you notice or did anybody noticed? In

2239
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 2: this last nixt run, all the old Knicks fans, the

2240
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 2: old Knick players, everybody was core sided every game.

2241
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:30,120
Speaker 5: I was the only one that was Oakley. But but

2242
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 5: he came to the he got he came to the

2243
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 5: away again.

2244
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 1: He was never because you got you got last.

2245
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 4: My perspective, all right, because Opley was just as l

2246
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 4: as you.

2247
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 5: But he would do an off camera Openley.

2248
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 1: I mean he was.

2249
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 4: Definitely wasn't the same office player. Both we did the

2250
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 4: same thing. Because I was enforced I can also score.

2251
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah yeah, so I was you.

2252
01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:01,680
Speaker 1: A hand man?

2253
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I guess feeling too was traditional the Next,

2254
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 4: like I saw in nineteen ninety nine. I'm from New York.

2255
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:09,760
Speaker 4: I was supposed to get drafted by the Knicks. Did

2256
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,680
Speaker 4: happen whatever, long story, so, but I did play for

2257
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 4: the Next in twenty fifteen, So that was a dreaming

2258
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 4: minine to play for the Next.

2259
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 1: I got John's and the Knicks. Bro that's some real

2260
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 1: new York toos story.

2261
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 4: Man, it's not quite Jose Alvarade.

2262
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:30,559
Speaker 1: He was over there in New Orleans something. You got

2263
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 1: to get his jersey. You would have been me if

2264
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:34,280
Speaker 1: you would have won the chip on the Knicks, you

2265
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 1: would that story, Your story would have been up there

2266
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:38,720
Speaker 1: with him.

2267
01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 5: I love his story too, his story. I won his jersey, right,

2268
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:42,960
Speaker 5: me too?

2269
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 4: Like I need a sign?

2270
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, me too, for sure for me? Who listening, John?

2271
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:54,599
Speaker 4: He got my jersey sign too. You don't want who

2272
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:56,400
Speaker 4: took it back? To get a signed by jailing? So

2273
01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 4: I asked us, I get my jersey, take you back?

2274
01:43:59,479 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 4: Thank you?

2275
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:04,800
Speaker 1: Right, that's for sure? Ready clips of E p m D.

2276
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:10,639
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go e p m D because that's my era,

2277
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? I also the clips is

2278
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:15,560
Speaker 4: the era, but eb m D is my era. And

2279
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 4: also I used to see Eric come through the hood.

2280
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:21,439
Speaker 4: He had a he had a baby, a lady on

2281
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 4: the third floor, and I loved him in my family

2282
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:28,880
Speaker 4: and I didn't even know, but I used to see him.

2283
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 9: Sermon was out there, not sermon, well that's d p

2284
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:40,719
Speaker 9: m D. But not sermon one only Eric, okay, Eric Servon,

2285
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 9: Sorry cerus man.

2286
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 4: Who I think scratch. I think I'm getting it all wrong. Clips,

2287
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 4: I'm getting it all wrong. My pardon me? Rock him?

2288
01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:51,760
Speaker 4: Who is this?

2289
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 1: Who's this?

2290
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 4: Get it wrong? That's why I was getting wrong. Yeah,

2291
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 4: because he's just like Eric. But I haven't thought about

2292
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:02,200
Speaker 4: this in so long.

2293
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 1: So let's just take a shot for that.

2294
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2295
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, but you will see why I confuse him, Eric said,

2296
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:14,720
Speaker 8: getting jammed up right there.

2297
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 1: Okay, So okay, sorry, okay, So E p m D.

2298
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:18,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with E p m D because some

2299
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 4: other reasons I think in our era A yeah, E

2300
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:25,960
Speaker 4: p m D. Okay, okay, you talk more about it

2301
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:27,200
Speaker 4: on their show, but I don't want.

2302
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 1: To hold that's all good? Cat well, Patrick Ewing.

2303
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:37,760
Speaker 4: Right now everything, Patrick Ewing, Thanks, they're not ready. I

2304
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 4: gotta do one more? Yeah, good, Sorry, Brunton has to

2305
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 4: win again, right because he's there now, he's he's even,

2306
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 4: he's even, he's definitely even.

2307
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:49,760
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2308
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 1: And then but cat, Cat, we need to win it twice.

2309
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 4: Cat, we need to win twice.

2310
01:45:56,560 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 1: I feel like cat he he he was like a

2311
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:03,680
Speaker 1: perfect piece of the puzzle, you know what I mean.

2312
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 1: And they got rid of the white guy right. It

2313
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 1: was heard runs and because there was three of them

2314
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 1: that played in was about I can never say your

2315
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 1: name was?

2316
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:18,200
Speaker 5: It was three of them?

2317
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:18,680
Speaker 1: Are four of them?

2318
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:19,840
Speaker 5: Three of them three?

2319
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2320
01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, Michael Bridges, Potensi O Brunson and Heart incredible and

2321
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 9: they were all on the next on.

2322
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:33,920
Speaker 1: Nova since your let when they brought Michael overh okay, okay, okay, right,

2323
01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 1: and it kind of kind of was like, I'm gonna

2324
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 1: go past okay, yeah, but you make a point? You

2325
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 1: how you? And is uh like that? That's my era too.

2326
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that team just as much as this team.

2327
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:52,200
Speaker 1: Remember when Jordan what was it Jordan who dunked one?

2328
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:55,880
Speaker 1: That was a controversy okay and win. The baseline to

2329
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:59,120
Speaker 1: that was a tough Knicks team too, like that bro

2330
01:46:59,240 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 1: Anthony Mason.

2331
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:04,559
Speaker 4: They went seven against the Bulls, right, so they wasn't

2332
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:07,479
Speaker 4: like what it should have been team They went seven

2333
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 4: against I think in the championship right then.

2334
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 1: The Rockers, the Rocks, Rocks White Kenny Smith won both

2335
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:12,719
Speaker 1: of them.

2336
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:15,439
Speaker 11: Right, just the Rockets one of them.

2337
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:18,879
Speaker 1: Yes, So that's what I would Yeah.

2338
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 11: He dunk on Pat Gotdy dunk du Pat in Game five?

2339
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:27,360
Speaker 5: Charles Hopley or Dennis Robman.

2340
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Dennis, not because Charles is not

2341
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 4: my guy, right, Charles, Charles make.

2342
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 1: Me ba ahead the video game. Yeah, I'm gonna go Dennis, okay,

2343
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:42,920
Speaker 1: because I want to get back to the Charles story

2344
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 1: for one second. But before that, like you said earlier,

2345
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 1: you said, probably your game is similar. But between you

2346
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 1: and Dennis, rob mean you could use the score off.

2347
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 1: He was considered that enforced as well, and a rebounder.

2348
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 4: Correct, there wasn't hopefully, no, no, no, no, Dennis wasn't

2349
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:06,840
Speaker 4: enforcing rebounding for sure because in the lockdown and also

2350
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:08,599
Speaker 4: an individual lockdown player, right.

2351
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 1: Because his story kind of reminded me of you and

2352
01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 1: Kobe's story, like how Jordan went against him and then

2353
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:17,840
Speaker 1: kind of like that's why I always start and then

2354
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:22,240
Speaker 1: kind of kind of like then didn't play robbing because like, yeah,

2355
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:25,040
Speaker 1: he wanted because I think that's when Jordan's lost to

2356
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:28,000
Speaker 1: the Pistols and he felt like his crew was was soft,

2357
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 1: so he recruited. Uh yeah, I actually I think Thomas

2358
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:34,640
Speaker 1: about this too, so ironic.

2359
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:36,840
Speaker 4: But Dennis also score, he could move her athletics, so

2360
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 4: Dennis can like like like locked up right magic at

2361
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 4: some point in time, not all the time.

2362
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:42,560
Speaker 1: But he can get it.

2363
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:45,280
Speaker 4: He can get into Lebron like Dennis defense.

2364
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:49,839
Speaker 1: Was elite's that's the difference. Break rebounded.

2365
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:51,240
Speaker 2: He could run up the Yeah, but his stat would

2366
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:53,680
Speaker 2: be like three points thirty rebounds.

2367
01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:56,240
Speaker 1: Crazy book.

2368
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was doing his job though he was supposed

2369
01:48:59,240 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 5: to do right.

2370
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:02,599
Speaker 11: He may call him the worm.

2371
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:03,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2372
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:06,760
Speaker 4: I love doing ninety one. Yeah, I got suspended high

2373
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:09,200
Speaker 4: in expected gets suspended in this jersey. I wanted to

2374
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:11,959
Speaker 4: with the championship in this jersey, but I want ninety.

2375
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:15,800
Speaker 1: One for Dennis. He just did That's dope. He was

2376
01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:17,479
Speaker 1: all he was an ill rebound that he was an

2377
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 1: l dude.

2378
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:21,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen Dennis performing. He I've seen him in Houston.

2379
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,679
Speaker 4: He was performing. You know, you'll be all athletes do music,

2380
01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:28,280
Speaker 4: Dennis lack of music. You should have him opened up

2381
01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 4: somewhere the show. It was dope.

2382
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:35,120
Speaker 1: He was. Yeah, I love Donnish.

2383
01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:38,000
Speaker 5: We took my I think you made perform.

2384
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:39,840
Speaker 1: He had up.

2385
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:47,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, just people.

2386
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 1: I'd be like, it's a certain crowd. You get two

2387
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 1: for one, you know, it's a certain crowd brings out

2388
01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:54,479
Speaker 1: that brings out that.

2389
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:55,160
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2390
01:49:55,240 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 12: So with the Carell Yeah, North Korea, Yeah, Yeah, but

2391
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:07,679
Speaker 12: he didn't.

2392
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:12,559
Speaker 5: I said that, didn't you go to Greece.

2393
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:14,680
Speaker 4: I went to Greece to do an album, to.

2394
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:16,200
Speaker 1: Do an album, I thought it was to play for

2395
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 1: the Greece team.

2396
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:19,599
Speaker 4: Now I went there. I went to play in Italy. Okay, okay, okay,

2397
01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:21,880
Speaker 4: after my last two years in my career.

2398
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 1: It was great.

2399
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:24,640
Speaker 4: I just I just took a trip because it was

2400
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 4: like I'm in my line every day, I impositive out.

2401
01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 4: I went out there for three months, you know what

2402
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 4: I mean.

2403
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 1: Played. I love Italy.

2404
01:50:32,200 --> 01:50:34,320
Speaker 4: But yeah, Greece actually is a is a group called

2405
01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:36,680
Speaker 4: Active Member. They dope and I listened to the music.

2406
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:39,840
Speaker 4: It's the only album I listened to, you know what

2407
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 4: I mean. And it's like Marv Deef is like Marv Deep.

2408
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:44,479
Speaker 4: They call it Active Member, they don't and I don't

2409
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:48,839
Speaker 4: know what they're saying to this day, honestly, Yeah.

2410
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:54,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, So ha kum or David Robinson.

2411
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:59,240
Speaker 4: M m I'm gonna go Hakim because yeah, I came,

2412
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:01,640
Speaker 4: was just like guy. People say he would have beat

2413
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:04,000
Speaker 4: Mike if Michael's dead, by the way, so that's the debate.

2414
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think Mike would have won

2415
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:08,160
Speaker 4: two more titles.

2416
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:11,200
Speaker 1: But or if Mike was there, right, he was there?

2417
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:12,800
Speaker 4: Like what what would have happened if Michael's dead?

2418
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:15,439
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, bigs one of the main That should be

2419
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:17,400
Speaker 1: a big that should be a drink chair sports discussion.

2420
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:22,639
Speaker 1: So we're gonna finish this time. You're gonna go back

2421
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 1: into the interview.

2422
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:24,439
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, for sure, I'm good.

2423
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:26,920
Speaker 1: This is the last one. It's called loyalty or respect?

2424
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 1: Which one you take it? You could take you can

2425
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 1: take both and take a shot. Take a shot, take

2426
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:41,599
Speaker 1: a shot, cheers. Dam So that makes you saying both?

2427
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:43,360
Speaker 4: Would I got to pick one?

2428
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:43,880
Speaker 1: Okay, you can.

2429
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:50,080
Speaker 4: I think I had to pick one. I would say

2430
01:51:50,120 --> 01:51:53,559
Speaker 4: respect because you never do something in that respect. Okay

2431
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:55,800
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, because like people got their lives,

2432
01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:57,840
Speaker 4: Like I can't hold somebody. I don't know what's not thinking.

2433
01:51:57,840 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 4: I don't control you. So if I have to pick

2434
01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:02,160
Speaker 4: on Pip respect, you know what I mean?

2435
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 1: The baby sit you? Yeah, that's kidding me.

2436
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 4: I love telling that story saying it's like I'm like

2437
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:20,800
Speaker 4: in New York, we're a little different. We have a

2438
01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:23,760
Speaker 4: lot of these different little competitions like who hood is better?

2439
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 4: In your hood? You have other little competitions, like that's

2440
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 4: what's important to us. Like, I don't care how much

2441
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:31,880
Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm not making a point with you based

2442
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:34,639
Speaker 4: on how much money I made. I'm having a point

2443
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 4: where you based off this street. And I think that

2444
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:42,559
Speaker 4: my you know, my daughter having a baby with the content.

2445
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 1: Sorry he's.

2446
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:46,559
Speaker 4: That's my son in law.

2447
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:47,680
Speaker 1: I love him.

2448
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 4: So I got three kids, three of my grandchildren from Compton.

2449
01:52:53,120 --> 01:52:59,400
Speaker 1: All right, so now we on Compton's westructions. So we

2450
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:00,799
Speaker 1: have a discussion.

2451
01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 5: Got a block on court bombed in ahead? Yeah yeah, yeah,

2452
01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 5: yeah they do. Oh yeah, he's getting excited.

2453
01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 4: I remember, like you know, they don't say certain stuff, no, no.

2454
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:14,960
Speaker 1: No, but but but but did you know that was

2455
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 1: say what she was baby said, go back to yeah

2456
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah yeah did you did you know that legend?

2457
01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 4: Six months? So my mom because Roxxayanne grew up in

2458
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:27,599
Speaker 4: homes bing okay, and my mom will pay you rock

2459
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:30,680
Speaker 4: saying fifty cents. I think fifty it's back to then,

2460
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:32,760
Speaker 4: I think fifty cent. My mom told me to baby

2461
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 4: sit me how six months?

2462
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:34,240
Speaker 5: Wow?

2463
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:35,840
Speaker 4: So that I'm like so proud of that.

2464
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 5: That's a that's a responsibity.

2465
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 11: It was that she continued, Yeah, she is right, fifty cents.

2466
01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, she wasn't fifty dollars, I bet tell you.

2467
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:48,439
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean, wait, so.

2468
01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:52,240
Speaker 1: Fixated. We don't know what they're right, Yeah, but I

2469
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 1: think fifty cents.

2470
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 4: It's like a dollar, right when you're when you're at

2471
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 4: thirteen years old, right, But anyway, I'm so happy about

2472
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 4: whenever the was and uh and then also to say

2473
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 4: that she was one of the greatest, but that's a

2474
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:04,839
Speaker 4: whole nother discussion.

2475
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:05,960
Speaker 1: Was one of the greatest.

2476
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 5: She's the thing. Component to the store.

2477
01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:10,599
Speaker 4: With the same.

2478
01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm your money, came.

2479
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:29,600
Speaker 4: The phone crazy and they go on my doctor, I

2480
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 4: got doctor the choet Stone. Now keep in mind, I

2481
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:35,960
Speaker 4: negotiate my own stuff, right.

2482
01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:39,920
Speaker 5: So they used you guys, yes, yeah, guess me, yes, okay.

2483
01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:42,000
Speaker 4: And actually I didn't even know you guys on the

2484
01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:43,960
Speaker 4: film util I saw you. I called me and say,

2485
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 4: hold on, how do you negotiate this? Okay, okay, but

2486
01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 4: they got me.

2487
01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 1: Okay.

2488
01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 4: That's another thing. So anyway, Compone says, you know, run

2489
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 4: she never been wrapping you said, you know. Components say, like,

2490
01:54:56,600 --> 01:54:58,240
Speaker 4: you know, I didn't know if he was gonna make

2491
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 4: it to forty five. So now, okay, so let's pause that, like,

2492
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:05,640
Speaker 4: you know, friends, I didn't make it. So he yes,

2493
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:09,440
Speaker 4: I love, I love you got friends? I shoe hold

2494
01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:13,560
Speaker 4: drink from okay cool, I ain't no, it ain't alcohol,

2495
01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 4: but it ain't no slouch. Come on, take this out

2496
01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:22,320
Speaker 4: that has done a slough, all right. So then he

2497
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 4: says that, So I say, hold on, you inspired me

2498
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 4: to wrap? How are you gonna tell me when you're

2499
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 4: the guy that inspired me to wrap? I actually hit

2500
01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:35,320
Speaker 4: up Norya because it took me three months to respond

2501
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 4: to Nord because somebody said something. And then so I

2502
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:42,800
Speaker 4: was like, oh my goodness, and get it. Can can

2503
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:43,280
Speaker 4: I get into it?

2504
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:44,200
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

2505
01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:45,800
Speaker 5: You don't remember, I'm gonna follow your.

2506
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 1: So anyway, I knew he was gonna talk about it,

2507
01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:49,360
Speaker 1: cause it's funny.

2508
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 5: There anyway, party you're talking, I did it, you did

2509
01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 5: you did the dog, And.

2510
01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:56,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, I didn't like the terms and conditions

2511
01:55:57,040 --> 01:55:59,160
Speaker 4: of your terms. I didn't get a chance to negotiate

2512
01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:02,680
Speaker 4: you but ideal. But anyway, I see back to the poem, yeah,

2513
01:56:03,200 --> 01:56:04,240
Speaker 4: and then back so a.

2514
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:07,360
Speaker 5: Poem like he said, I forgot what poem said?

2515
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:09,680
Speaker 4: He said that I shouldn't be rapping. And you know,

2516
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:11,480
Speaker 4: I ain't know what wrong I was gonna make.

2517
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:13,720
Speaker 1: It past forty five. I'm like, pum, hold on the chill.

2518
01:56:17,240 --> 01:56:19,800
Speaker 4: I didn't say none of this stuff. I'm gonna maybe

2519
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:23,560
Speaker 4: it past forty five. And also what was I doing?

2520
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 4: And then like, you know, you should have called me.

2521
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:28,960
Speaker 4: They told me, you know. And then also but I'm

2522
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:33,440
Speaker 4: thinking about it and seeing that, right, I think about

2523
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 4: like laky, you know what I mean, Like like and

2524
01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 4: people said my brother Wally Clark, right, so it's like,

2525
01:56:39,720 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 4: why would I reach out to Lakey Because I want

2526
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:45,919
Speaker 4: to see how people do better, Right, That's why I would.

2527
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:48,040
Speaker 1: Reach out to I ain't think about little beef you had?

2528
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, anything get into it much bold, that's

2529
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:54,160
Speaker 1: nothing even third.

2530
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:59,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I forgot that was Yeah, so you look like

2531
01:56:59,360 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 5: a lot from.

2532
01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:11,840
Speaker 1: I never shot you take this shot.

2533
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 4: But it's like things because I'm always bringing back things

2534
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:18,680
Speaker 4: to a business perspective, but people don't know what we do, right,

2535
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 4: So when people say certain things like don't see that,

2536
01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:24,200
Speaker 4: you know, because we're trying to get it, you know

2537
01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 4: what I mean. But like, but yeah, so I forgot

2538
01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:26,640
Speaker 4: where I was at.

2539
01:57:27,640 --> 01:57:31,880
Speaker 1: We were talking about box saying being your babysitting that.

2540
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:36,720
Speaker 4: Is it's legendary, is legendary, like yeah, a lot of

2541
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 4: legendary stuff. Man being from Queenslands was crazy. And we

2542
01:57:40,120 --> 01:57:43,120
Speaker 4: was talking about our guys. It was like, so if

2543
01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:47,000
Speaker 4: people are saying that athletes are not making the right

2544
01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:50,960
Speaker 4: moves financially, right, but you got to but people don't

2545
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:52,960
Speaker 4: see the flip side. I was talking them, So you

2546
01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 4: have some guys name about to have so I can't wait.

2547
01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 4: I think three must just find Yeah, because I wanted

2548
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:04,240
Speaker 4: to make sure I say the right way, I said,

2549
01:58:04,400 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 4: I got to call.

2550
01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:12,480
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy and this is this is the

2551
01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:17,480
Speaker 1: regular and everybody is here so wrong hit me and

2552
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 1: was like yo, I didn't like what these guys said.

2553
01:58:21,040 --> 01:58:24,920
Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, cool, So I went

2554
01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 1: to look for the footage. So I had to actually

2555
01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:30,040
Speaker 1: like pull it up and I still don't see what

2556
01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:37,760
Speaker 1: you saw. So leision yes, because I think you said

2557
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:38,760
Speaker 1: it was a face expression.

2558
01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:40,640
Speaker 11: Yes, okay, so check it out.

2559
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:42,800
Speaker 4: So anyway, when I look at or remember what I

2560
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 4: said earlier that when we was at Hawaii, but I said,

2561
01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:48,240
Speaker 4: that's the guy you need for media.

2562
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 1: So media.

2563
01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 4: You're in media business, right, right, right. So now we

2564
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:55,680
Speaker 4: as people from the culture, we're just trying to make

2565
01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:56,760
Speaker 4: it right, you know.

2566
01:58:56,880 --> 01:59:00,720
Speaker 1: Because I think I think what they said was fifties

2567
01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:05,800
Speaker 1: vitamin water deal. Yes, yes, came from people in Queens, yes, people.

2568
01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:07,960
Speaker 4: Uh, and I wanted to talk about it. I wanted

2569
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 4: to have a chance, and.

2570
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:11,800
Speaker 1: They said, but it was originally your deal.

2571
01:59:12,040 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, So basically this is two thousand and seven.

2572
01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:17,640
Speaker 11: Okay, right, So what they didn't understand I heard.

2573
01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:19,920
Speaker 4: I heard this actual, Yeah, two thousand and seven it was,

2574
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:21,920
Speaker 4: and they talked about it. Maybe we have to knowrry.

2575
01:59:22,640 --> 01:59:24,280
Speaker 4: I probably could have begged them to get on the show.

2576
01:59:24,280 --> 01:59:27,720
Speaker 4: But there's the reason we hear exactly. But yeah, so

2577
01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:29,880
Speaker 4: they said, you know, Bron missed out on the deal

2578
01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:35,200
Speaker 4: vitamin water two thousand whatever, and you know, you know

2579
01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:38,520
Speaker 4: what's crazy. And I'm just trying to act what they said.

2580
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:41,640
Speaker 4: It's not like mocking them, my guys, but it's like,

2581
01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:45,880
Speaker 4: you know, they said and assumed that it was a

2582
01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:47,600
Speaker 4: dumb move. Now, yeah, it was a dumb.

2583
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:51,720
Speaker 1: Move because they said that you or you quote me

2584
01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:54,760
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, yeh, that you asked, you asked to

2585
01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:56,800
Speaker 1: get paid up front, when they yes.

2586
01:59:57,040 --> 01:59:58,920
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, they won the two hundred and thirty five

2587
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:01,880
Speaker 4: thousand from you. Yeah, just to get right to the

2588
02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:06,280
Speaker 4: bullet points. What's why are we here today? Coke and

2589
02:00:06,360 --> 02:00:10,640
Speaker 4: Vitamin Water invests two point two point three point four

2590
02:00:10,760 --> 02:00:14,160
Speaker 4: whatever point ten? First point was investing for equity. I

2591
02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:16,480
Speaker 4: didn't know what he was two thousand and seven when

2592
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:19,520
Speaker 4: ops you know, Ops, Yeah, well he hit me up.

2593
02:00:19,640 --> 02:00:21,920
Speaker 4: My guy, say your vitamin Water want to offer you

2594
02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:25,520
Speaker 4: a deal because in the community, I was marketing vitamin

2595
02:00:25,640 --> 02:00:28,000
Speaker 4: water because I ran the basketball for a certain amount

2596
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:31,120
Speaker 4: of time. They was given my players free vitamin water.

2597
02:00:31,320 --> 02:00:32,000
Speaker 11: I'm like, Yo, these.

2598
02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:33,560
Speaker 4: Dudes is dope. I don't know who they are putting.

2599
02:00:34,280 --> 02:00:36,480
Speaker 1: Yo, I'm gonna put you your name on our jersey.

2600
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:39,120
Speaker 4: I got y'all so in my documentary that you were

2601
02:00:39,200 --> 02:00:42,160
Speaker 4: on Yes, vitamin Water. They offered me that deal because

2602
02:00:42,160 --> 02:00:45,000
Speaker 4: I did them a favor and activated them in the community.

2603
02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:46,960
Speaker 4: I didn't think about that as till I just think

2604
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:48,760
Speaker 4: about you giving my kids water, you.

2605
02:00:48,760 --> 02:00:49,080
Speaker 2: Know what I mean?

2606
02:00:49,120 --> 02:00:51,240
Speaker 4: So I don't know I still know equity as so anyway,

2607
02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:55,560
Speaker 4: at that time, I turned that deal down because I'm like,

2608
02:00:55,680 --> 02:00:58,920
Speaker 4: pay me think about it. I'm trying to play basketball.

2609
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:01,080
Speaker 4: But also I got a man team, and I'm trying

2610
02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:02,680
Speaker 4: to bring my people up, and we're just trying to

2611
02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:05,000
Speaker 4: do this. So you wrapping up the time as weping.

2612
02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:08,360
Speaker 4: I'm alsto rapping, and then too many of us was rapping.

2613
02:01:08,600 --> 02:01:10,360
Speaker 4: I said, another story. And I tell my guys all

2614
02:01:10,360 --> 02:01:12,840
Speaker 4: the time, I don't wret nothing. But we had good time.

2615
02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:16,360
Speaker 4: But but in that deal situation, I ain't know what

2616
02:01:16,400 --> 02:01:18,440
Speaker 4: equity was. We're on the block on twelve Street, were

2617
02:01:18,440 --> 02:01:20,280
Speaker 4: smoking the blunt. I'm going there with a tank top

2618
02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:22,040
Speaker 4: and then blunts with my hand not even cut.

2619
02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:23,000
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

2620
02:01:23,240 --> 02:01:27,240
Speaker 4: To the media and people would shame that, But what

2621
02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:29,280
Speaker 4: I would say is that was my moment in time.

2622
02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:30,760
Speaker 4: I'm looking up to somebody different.

2623
02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:31,160
Speaker 1: You know.

2624
02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:34,640
Speaker 4: When I came into the league, we were just saying, okay,

2625
02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:37,120
Speaker 4: in our neighborhood, you have a certain amount of capital.

2626
02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:40,200
Speaker 4: What are you going to do with that capital is

2627
02:01:40,280 --> 02:01:40,800
Speaker 4: on your mind?

2628
02:01:41,200 --> 02:01:41,360
Speaker 1: Right?

2629
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:43,120
Speaker 4: How are you going to ten next step? That's what

2630
02:01:43,160 --> 02:01:45,000
Speaker 4: we're call an investment today. How we were ten x

2631
02:01:45,040 --> 02:01:48,520
Speaker 4: stack grand car doing my man right and whatever? You

2632
02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:51,080
Speaker 4: know what I mean, We're all in business. So for me,

2633
02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:55,960
Speaker 4: I got friends that now I'm in a professional environment

2634
02:01:56,080 --> 02:02:00,440
Speaker 4: with different type of communication. So I say the thing

2635
02:02:01,360 --> 02:02:03,880
Speaker 4: it it could hurt you. I can't be around you,

2636
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:07,560
Speaker 4: and I also don't want to be around like certain communications.

2637
02:02:08,040 --> 02:02:08,760
Speaker 4: I'm in the league.

2638
02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:11,280
Speaker 5: So okay, you keep it.

2639
02:02:11,480 --> 02:02:14,120
Speaker 1: No, no, because so what turned you off is because

2640
02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:16,440
Speaker 1: they asked ask you for money.

2641
02:02:16,440 --> 02:02:18,040
Speaker 14: I'm talking about the vitamin will thank you for bad

2642
02:02:18,040 --> 02:02:19,800
Speaker 14: But this is all this all going into the deal.

2643
02:02:19,960 --> 02:02:21,040
Speaker 11: Okay, but yeah, you can cover.

2644
02:02:20,960 --> 02:02:22,000
Speaker 4: You off any time because.

2645
02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:23,840
Speaker 1: You know, because I'm just trying to understand this.

2646
02:02:23,960 --> 02:02:24,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, no, yes, okay.

2647
02:02:25,240 --> 02:02:28,880
Speaker 1: So and usually all the other deals that you were doing,

2648
02:02:29,160 --> 02:02:31,080
Speaker 1: they were giving you like an advance, like that's what

2649
02:02:31,160 --> 02:02:31,680
Speaker 1: we were saying.

2650
02:02:31,720 --> 02:02:33,560
Speaker 4: You get like five thousand dollars. So you're making a

2651
02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:35,680
Speaker 4: million dollars right, right, And let's say you're making a

2652
02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:38,720
Speaker 4: million dollars your first year nineteen years old, like wow,

2653
02:02:38,760 --> 02:02:40,400
Speaker 4: I just got money from Mike Delaurier and tell you

2654
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:43,320
Speaker 4: fifteen dollars. I needed this, right, you know what I mean.

2655
02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:46,000
Speaker 4: So it's like you're thinking everything right. So then but

2656
02:02:46,040 --> 02:02:49,920
Speaker 4: if somebody give you five thousand cash, you excited about that.

2657
02:02:49,960 --> 02:02:53,200
Speaker 4: You should not be excited about five, but a lot

2658
02:02:53,240 --> 02:02:56,560
Speaker 4: of people are excited about five thousand. I'm not disrespecting

2659
02:02:56,600 --> 02:02:59,000
Speaker 4: five thousand, but I'm saying the five thousand should be

2660
02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:01,440
Speaker 4: aligned with your brain, you know.

2661
02:03:01,400 --> 02:03:01,680
Speaker 2: What I mean.

2662
02:03:01,680 --> 02:03:03,120
Speaker 4: I don't want to get into that too much, but

2663
02:03:04,240 --> 02:03:07,920
Speaker 4: so at this point I'm getting foped out. Maybe ninety thousand,

2664
02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:10,440
Speaker 4: me and Priory, you did the show. We got ninety

2665
02:03:10,520 --> 02:03:15,720
Speaker 4: thousand Vegas two thousand. That's good money, I think in

2666
02:03:15,760 --> 02:03:19,120
Speaker 4: two thousand, cool I just gained them ninety thousand. That's

2667
02:03:19,120 --> 02:03:19,960
Speaker 4: myfy miss records.

2668
02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:20,440
Speaker 1: That's good money.

2669
02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:22,960
Speaker 4: Such check it. Ye know, we had in Vegas and

2670
02:03:23,200 --> 02:03:26,520
Speaker 4: fast the long story short, and six people showed up

2671
02:03:26,560 --> 02:03:29,280
Speaker 4: to the show. Honestly, that show ended with two people.

2672
02:03:29,400 --> 02:03:32,080
Speaker 4: Now keep in mind as a story I would tell

2673
02:03:32,200 --> 02:03:33,520
Speaker 4: because it's really funny.

2674
02:03:33,800 --> 02:03:34,720
Speaker 1: We know who mob is.

2675
02:03:34,920 --> 02:03:37,480
Speaker 4: Of course, the marketing was wrong, it was crazy. But anyway,

2676
02:03:37,480 --> 02:03:40,840
Speaker 4: I did things like that. You know what, At what.

2677
02:03:40,920 --> 02:03:42,960
Speaker 5: Point were we No, I'm trying to ask you, So

2678
02:03:43,240 --> 02:03:43,840
Speaker 5: the vitamin did?

2679
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:46,320
Speaker 1: This is all that time?

2680
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:48,800
Speaker 4: Thank you for bringing me back to that. This all

2681
02:03:48,880 --> 02:03:51,120
Speaker 4: that time. So there's nothing I didn't like about the deal.

2682
02:03:51,600 --> 02:03:53,800
Speaker 4: I didn't know what equity was. I just came off

2683
02:03:53,840 --> 02:03:56,160
Speaker 4: the block. So what I wanted to tell the gentleman

2684
02:03:56,400 --> 02:03:58,800
Speaker 4: was like, let's tell the whole story, because the way

2685
02:03:58,840 --> 02:04:01,560
Speaker 4: you because if you made, I can't assume like someone's dumb,

2686
02:04:01,880 --> 02:04:05,480
Speaker 4: like somebody's going through something like band two. For example,

2687
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:09,360
Speaker 4: I went to school band two. I had ninety average.

2688
02:04:09,400 --> 02:04:12,160
Speaker 4: Band two passed every test for one hundred. I went

2689
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:14,080
Speaker 4: to school band two. I got things about.

2690
02:04:14,240 --> 02:04:14,800
Speaker 1: That's my guy.

2691
02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:17,760
Speaker 4: So what I saw was a scholar. But sometimes you

2692
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:20,560
Speaker 4: could be a scholar in the hood and not no

2693
02:04:21,200 --> 02:04:24,920
Speaker 4: navigation of life. Yeah, and I was an architect based

2694
02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:28,960
Speaker 4: I went to Saint John's. Okay, my Nagel architecture, you know,

2695
02:04:29,040 --> 02:04:31,640
Speaker 4: the damn in Princeton. Send me a letter. That don't

2696
02:04:31,680 --> 02:04:34,480
Speaker 4: matter because I don't have what you're talking about.

2697
02:04:34,520 --> 02:04:35,120
Speaker 1: I did not have.

2698
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:39,920
Speaker 4: And that's okay because you could get it along.

2699
02:04:39,720 --> 02:04:42,440
Speaker 1: The way or hire somebody to get it. Well hiring,

2700
02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:42,960
Speaker 1: I said.

2701
02:04:43,480 --> 02:04:46,040
Speaker 4: As a corporation, you're gonna hire without a financial model.

2702
02:04:46,640 --> 02:04:50,040
Speaker 4: And that's the decisions the athletes are making, right, is

2703
02:04:50,040 --> 02:04:52,240
Speaker 4: you gonna hire, You're gonna have a financial model. So

2704
02:04:52,360 --> 02:04:53,920
Speaker 4: when you make it into league, you need a model.

2705
02:04:54,160 --> 02:04:56,360
Speaker 4: Do you have how many? How many did you have

2706
02:04:56,440 --> 02:05:01,240
Speaker 4: a financial moddle? So then but that's so important if

2707
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:03,720
Speaker 4: you're going to shame someone for what they lost.

2708
02:05:04,120 --> 02:05:05,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think.

2709
02:05:05,120 --> 02:05:05,640
Speaker 1: I don't think.

2710
02:05:08,520 --> 02:05:11,800
Speaker 10: It happens to be talking about how he had an

2711
02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:16,440
Speaker 10: opportunity to slide signed rin. Yeah it happened, that's what.

2712
02:05:16,760 --> 02:05:17,040
Speaker 4: But that's what.

2713
02:05:17,680 --> 02:05:18,520
Speaker 5: But I went back, I.

2714
02:05:18,520 --> 02:05:19,840
Speaker 1: Went back as me, and you spoke about it, like

2715
02:05:19,880 --> 02:05:21,840
Speaker 1: you said, it was like a probably a three months man.

2716
02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:23,760
Speaker 1: And that's so I had. And then I talked to

2717
02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:28,320
Speaker 1: you again and when you said that, the part that

2718
02:05:28,720 --> 02:05:30,800
Speaker 1: that I think you said to me was like, man,

2719
02:05:30,840 --> 02:05:33,360
Speaker 1: it's his face how he said it? Yes, yes, yes,

2720
02:05:33,720 --> 02:05:36,280
Speaker 1: And I had went back and I went back and

2721
02:05:36,400 --> 02:05:38,240
Speaker 1: I looked and I really didn't.

2722
02:05:37,960 --> 02:05:38,720
Speaker 5: See what you're seeing.

2723
02:05:38,720 --> 02:05:40,600
Speaker 4: Okay, let me tell you what I see. Okay, okay,

2724
02:05:40,760 --> 02:05:43,640
Speaker 4: because I love these guys and we spoke and shout

2725
02:05:43,640 --> 02:05:47,720
Speaker 4: out to but I really wanted to speak to him.

2726
02:05:47,720 --> 02:05:50,560
Speaker 4: But I didn't know how that's not Cordora telling about

2727
02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:53,800
Speaker 4: how I feel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it seemed like they said.

2728
02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:56,600
Speaker 4: What I'm trying to do is encourage people like us,

2729
02:05:56,960 --> 02:06:01,480
Speaker 4: like don't go to jail, like school, It's okay to

2730
02:06:01,480 --> 02:06:03,800
Speaker 4: build your family. No matter what you talk about, it's

2731
02:06:03,800 --> 02:06:06,320
Speaker 4: going to take time anyway, whether you're doing time or

2732
02:06:06,360 --> 02:06:08,080
Speaker 4: it's going to take you a certain amount of time.

2733
02:06:08,000 --> 02:06:09,840
Speaker 11: To be successful, right, you know what I mean.

2734
02:06:10,040 --> 02:06:14,680
Speaker 4: And it's like that's so from that perspective, I use that, okay,

2735
02:06:14,840 --> 02:06:16,080
Speaker 4: to build them, to make my point.

2736
02:06:16,320 --> 02:06:18,000
Speaker 11: Okay, we want to be like you.

2737
02:06:18,640 --> 02:06:22,360
Speaker 4: So we want to be like you know, screwball. That's

2738
02:06:22,440 --> 02:06:24,360
Speaker 4: my goal in life. They got a hit record, they're

2739
02:06:24,360 --> 02:06:26,560
Speaker 4: making money. I can stay out of trouble. So who

2740
02:06:26,720 --> 02:06:30,160
Speaker 4: has I'm on the block. I don't know what equity is,

2741
02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:32,520
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So from that perspective, I

2742
02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:34,560
Speaker 4: wanted to just tell them like that, but we had

2743
02:06:34,600 --> 02:06:35,800
Speaker 4: a conversation. This is awesome.

2744
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:37,120
Speaker 1: This is type of content I want to do.

2745
02:06:37,160 --> 02:06:39,000
Speaker 4: Anyway. By the way, you know, I turned down a

2746
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:39,840
Speaker 4: lot of opportunities.

2747
02:06:40,120 --> 02:06:42,120
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be clear. This is the thing. Equity

2748
02:06:42,200 --> 02:06:45,400
Speaker 1: doesn't mean shit. If the company company that's a new

2749
02:06:45,480 --> 02:06:50,160
Speaker 1: story with someone relevant or on fire, people will come

2750
02:06:50,240 --> 02:06:51,480
Speaker 1: with you with equity deals.

2751
02:06:51,680 --> 02:06:54,280
Speaker 3: Right, and in retrospective, a company blows, one of the

2752
02:06:54,320 --> 02:06:56,959
Speaker 3: ten companies might blow that we wouldn't nobody.

2753
02:06:56,760 --> 02:06:58,920
Speaker 1: Would know this. I remember when someone came to us

2754
02:06:59,520 --> 02:07:03,480
Speaker 1: and they that comes to us all the time. Yeah,

2755
02:07:03,560 --> 02:07:07,000
Speaker 1: the day the obviously we know what equity is now, right,

2756
02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:10,360
Speaker 1: But they were saying, they say shares in the company, right,

2757
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:13,880
Speaker 1: And sometimes that shit on paper looks very very very

2758
02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:17,520
Speaker 1: sexy because like you own, it could be sixty if

2759
02:07:17,680 --> 02:07:20,200
Speaker 1: if they do well, If that company doesn't, what happens

2760
02:07:20,280 --> 02:07:23,320
Speaker 1: we put in the sweat equity, the company doesn't do well.

2761
02:07:23,240 --> 02:07:24,160
Speaker 11: And we don't make anything.

2762
02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem. Your time, time is your time

2763
02:07:27,960 --> 02:07:33,280
Speaker 1: and money in retrospect, they're right now in retrospect.

2764
02:07:33,800 --> 02:07:36,080
Speaker 4: You wouldn't have known that. And this is and knowlt

2765
02:07:36,280 --> 02:07:40,960
Speaker 4: known how to launch media, would have negotiated his licenses differently.

2766
02:07:41,600 --> 02:07:43,000
Speaker 4: But and this is what I want to say, like

2767
02:07:43,120 --> 02:07:44,240
Speaker 4: I want people don't give up.

2768
02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:46,880
Speaker 1: That's the main thing I learned from all things that

2769
02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:47,400
Speaker 1: you're dealing with.

2770
02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:49,200
Speaker 4: Learn from all things, and you don't have to continue

2771
02:07:49,240 --> 02:07:51,560
Speaker 4: to go down the bad route. If it's going to

2772
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:53,720
Speaker 4: take you a certain amount of time, it's okay, Like

2773
02:07:53,840 --> 02:07:56,720
Speaker 4: don't stop. You know what I mean? Because now here

2774
02:07:56,760 --> 02:07:59,280
Speaker 4: I am but forty companies in a portfolio. Yeah at

2775
02:07:59,320 --> 02:08:02,080
Speaker 4: that time, no, right, at that time, I didn't know.

2776
02:08:02,440 --> 02:08:03,920
Speaker 4: And it wasn't because I was doing it, because I

2777
02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:05,960
Speaker 4: was in hood. And there's a lot of people that's

2778
02:08:05,960 --> 02:08:07,760
Speaker 4: in the hood that's making mistakes. But I'm trying to

2779
02:08:07,760 --> 02:08:11,840
Speaker 4: say is listen, you don't take debate. Try to take

2780
02:08:11,840 --> 02:08:12,320
Speaker 4: care of your family.

2781
02:08:12,360 --> 02:08:12,880
Speaker 1: You got a baby.

2782
02:08:12,880 --> 02:08:14,200
Speaker 4: It's okay. You don't have to be the cool and

2783
02:08:14,320 --> 02:08:15,680
Speaker 4: you don't have to be the cool jew all the time.

2784
02:08:15,960 --> 02:08:18,120
Speaker 4: So anyway, but now not to not to go at

2785
02:08:18,200 --> 02:08:19,960
Speaker 4: those guys because I like them. That's why I had

2786
02:08:19,960 --> 02:08:22,400
Speaker 4: a glory and I think it's a great conversation because

2787
02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:25,560
Speaker 4: now social impact is conversation. So I could have went

2788
02:08:25,600 --> 02:08:27,600
Speaker 4: on the show. I got a couple of million to

2789
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:30,240
Speaker 4: do something like everybody else is doing it. I was

2790
02:08:30,280 --> 02:08:32,760
Speaker 4: that guy at one point in time.

2791
02:08:33,040 --> 02:08:33,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that.

2792
02:08:33,760 --> 02:08:36,480
Speaker 4: I don't want to be inspiring, and I believe entertainment

2793
02:08:36,560 --> 02:08:39,400
Speaker 4: is inspiring. I'm here this is for any reasons.

2794
02:08:39,520 --> 02:08:40,920
Speaker 1: And also Erry Alesia.

2795
02:08:41,360 --> 02:08:43,320
Speaker 4: They're talking about this, but I was doing this a

2796
02:08:43,360 --> 02:08:46,200
Speaker 4: long time ago. I was talking about social impact a

2797
02:08:46,240 --> 02:08:48,400
Speaker 4: long time ago. So now I feel like it's my

2798
02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:50,800
Speaker 4: time to talk about social impact and I think it's entertaining.

2799
02:08:51,520 --> 02:09:00,520
Speaker 4: Yeah here he is. Yeah, yeah, it's okay. Shout out

2800
02:09:00,520 --> 02:09:01,320
Speaker 4: to Leasha Man.

2801
02:09:01,480 --> 02:09:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah sure man, Yeah, hold on, let.

2802
02:09:05,600 --> 02:09:07,640
Speaker 2: Me ask you quick my note as one of the

2803
02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:09,880
Speaker 2: Defensive Players of the Year.

2804
02:09:10,040 --> 02:09:11,280
Speaker 1: Honored as a defensive player.

2805
02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:14,080
Speaker 2: Who do you think in your levels of high school,

2806
02:09:14,120 --> 02:09:18,000
Speaker 2: college and and NBA it was the hardest to guard.

2807
02:09:19,720 --> 02:09:23,120
Speaker 4: College and NBA or high school? I mean, yeah, so

2808
02:09:23,640 --> 02:09:26,240
Speaker 4: there's people from a guy named Sharon Brown. He's from

2809
02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:28,680
Speaker 4: far Rockaway. I also grew up on Farkaway, you know,

2810
02:09:28,760 --> 02:09:31,440
Speaker 4: in the summers. So I was seventy one fifteen and

2811
02:09:31,600 --> 02:09:35,560
Speaker 4: Sharon Brown, what's nice show? I thought he was really good,

2812
02:09:35,680 --> 02:09:38,360
Speaker 4: always hard to guard. Did score forty on me in

2813
02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:41,160
Speaker 4: the NBA. I think Team I did score forty. That's

2814
02:09:41,200 --> 02:09:43,760
Speaker 4: I hate that. I hate to say that, but only

2815
02:09:43,760 --> 02:09:45,760
Speaker 4: like two people and three people meet Lebron. He definitely

2816
02:09:45,800 --> 02:09:47,760
Speaker 4: had to have forty on me. So I would say, like,

2817
02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:51,320
Speaker 4: but when it goes back to like DP uptown, everybody

2818
02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:54,000
Speaker 4: know DP. You know he's a little bit tougher than

2819
02:09:54,080 --> 02:09:56,440
Speaker 4: Junie Sanders. These guys could have played in the NBA.

2820
02:09:57,800 --> 02:10:00,440
Speaker 4: But like realistically, because because you could ask one of

2821
02:10:00,520 --> 02:10:04,160
Speaker 4: your friends about like who is DP or you know,

2822
02:10:04,560 --> 02:10:07,800
Speaker 4: or who is Sharon Brown, I would say, and now

2823
02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:09,640
Speaker 4: we're gonna get to write to it. Like Richard Hamilton

2824
02:10:09,720 --> 02:10:13,360
Speaker 4: was tough. I think Richard Hamilton for me was probably

2825
02:10:14,200 --> 02:10:18,760
Speaker 4: tough as like Lebron because he read it's ripped. It's

2826
02:10:18,800 --> 02:10:21,720
Speaker 4: a different feel. He making you run, so you gotta

2827
02:10:21,720 --> 02:10:24,040
Speaker 4: think about it. You can't get him like gard Meta,

2828
02:10:24,040 --> 02:10:27,960
Speaker 4: gotta gard him right. But I'm also to sixty he's too.

2829
02:10:28,600 --> 02:10:38,840
Speaker 4: Oh he ain't too. I got that's two fifty chases

2830
02:10:38,880 --> 02:10:41,200
Speaker 4: in that. So he would he would test you a lot,

2831
02:10:41,640 --> 02:10:43,240
Speaker 4: and until you put it in perspective, I played against

2832
02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:45,520
Speaker 4: Jordan Pla, against Kobe, play against Lebron, play against rip

2833
02:10:45,960 --> 02:10:47,280
Speaker 4: and when I when I put it in perspective to

2834
02:10:47,320 --> 02:10:53,160
Speaker 4: me personally, I got ripped obviously Lebron, Sharon Brown, you

2835
02:10:53,240 --> 02:10:53,440
Speaker 4: know what I.

2836
02:10:53,480 --> 02:10:56,280
Speaker 2: Mean, channel and all all of those stages to get

2837
02:10:56,320 --> 02:10:57,760
Speaker 2: to a defensive Player of the Year.

2838
02:10:58,080 --> 02:10:59,560
Speaker 11: That's a that's that's what I'm asking.

2839
02:10:59,560 --> 02:11:01,480
Speaker 4: I learned that. Yeah, so I learned all the tricks

2840
02:11:01,480 --> 02:11:02,960
Speaker 4: I was seeing New York. I was just I saw

2841
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:05,360
Speaker 4: him a ready and then I also an extream ship.

2842
02:11:05,480 --> 02:11:07,080
Speaker 4: So when in the league, if you try to go

2843
02:11:07,120 --> 02:11:08,600
Speaker 4: behind the back to the legs, I've seen that so

2844
02:11:08,640 --> 02:11:09,160
Speaker 4: many times.

2845
02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:10,080
Speaker 1: I know where you're going.

2846
02:11:11,000 --> 02:11:13,320
Speaker 4: So I was able to like time people up and

2847
02:11:13,480 --> 02:11:15,680
Speaker 4: and go get it. You cannot go behind your back

2848
02:11:15,760 --> 02:11:16,640
Speaker 4: right now. I know you can't.

2849
02:11:18,240 --> 02:11:20,640
Speaker 1: This is a question from big big Rode. Right, I

2850
02:11:20,720 --> 02:11:25,760
Speaker 1: had a yeah, rah raheem. Johnson too, Johns you know right,

2851
02:11:27,200 --> 02:11:31,880
Speaker 1: that's a whole he said. He's incredible, he said, he said,

2852
02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:34,440
Speaker 1: And this is good for my Miami people. He said,

2853
02:11:34,520 --> 02:11:37,440
Speaker 1: is the truth that you before signing the Saint John's

2854
02:11:37,880 --> 02:11:39,840
Speaker 1: that you was going to sign to the University of

2855
02:11:39,960 --> 02:11:40,879
Speaker 1: Miami Hurricane.

2856
02:11:41,000 --> 02:11:42,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I've never heard.

2857
02:11:42,560 --> 02:11:48,560
Speaker 1: That from you. Yeah, damn, I can't see, because yes,

2858
02:11:48,640 --> 02:11:53,680
Speaker 1: it is so perfect going to Saint John's, But damn different,

2859
02:11:53,960 --> 02:11:55,720
Speaker 1: it would have been a whole different career you would

2860
02:11:55,760 --> 02:11:57,200
Speaker 1: have been in Miami Hurricane.

2861
02:11:57,440 --> 02:12:01,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely for sure. Like so my major was architecture.

2862
02:12:01,720 --> 02:12:03,720
Speaker 5: Okay, so when I was.

2863
02:12:03,680 --> 02:12:05,520
Speaker 4: A bad student, I was. I wasn't a great student

2864
02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:07,880
Speaker 4: in the beginning. Vantu was a great student. He never

2865
02:12:07,920 --> 02:12:10,880
Speaker 4: got less than one hundred, you know, I was. I

2866
02:12:10,920 --> 02:12:11,640
Speaker 4: wasn't a great student.

2867
02:12:11,680 --> 02:12:11,880
Speaker 1: So I was.

2868
02:12:11,960 --> 02:12:15,080
Speaker 4: I came into high school failing, but then I said

2869
02:12:15,200 --> 02:12:18,360
Speaker 4: thirteen games because because I was failing and getting into trouble.

2870
02:12:19,160 --> 02:12:21,000
Speaker 4: But then my average went up every year. I ended

2871
02:12:21,080 --> 02:12:24,960
Speaker 4: my senior year with a ninety five average. No, No,

2872
02:12:25,600 --> 02:12:26,480
Speaker 4: this is after see what it was?

2873
02:12:26,600 --> 02:12:27,040
Speaker 1: High school?

2874
02:12:27,640 --> 02:12:30,440
Speaker 2: I played the Little League school type ship and I

2875
02:12:30,520 --> 02:12:33,040
Speaker 2: played about that bringing your Yeah.

2876
02:12:32,920 --> 02:12:33,520
Speaker 1: We're talking about that?

2877
02:12:33,600 --> 02:12:35,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's you again?

2878
02:12:35,200 --> 02:12:36,160
Speaker 11: Sorry, Sonny?

2879
02:12:36,200 --> 02:12:37,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, were talk about that year I played with Shamguard.

2880
02:12:38,440 --> 02:12:40,480
Speaker 4: So after I played high school with sham God.

2881
02:12:40,400 --> 02:12:41,960
Speaker 1: Well yeah, that was my next question.

2882
02:12:42,080 --> 02:12:46,760
Speaker 4: So then, so my major was architecture, and then Miami

2883
02:12:46,840 --> 02:12:50,480
Speaker 4: had an architecture major program. And then so when I

2884
02:12:50,560 --> 02:12:52,280
Speaker 4: came to Miami, they was telling me how they was

2885
02:12:52,440 --> 02:12:55,520
Speaker 4: help me become architect So I was going to Miami

2886
02:12:55,760 --> 02:12:55,920
Speaker 4: to you.

2887
02:12:56,200 --> 02:12:58,440
Speaker 11: Yeah, talking about sham God, being that you played with

2888
02:12:58,520 --> 02:12:58,800
Speaker 11: him for a.

2889
02:12:58,800 --> 02:12:59,320
Speaker 1: Couple of years.

2890
02:13:00,320 --> 02:13:02,560
Speaker 11: With that experience, who do you think is the closest

2891
02:13:02,600 --> 02:13:03,200
Speaker 11: to his handle?

2892
02:13:03,960 --> 02:13:04,160
Speaker 1: Man?

2893
02:13:04,720 --> 02:13:07,560
Speaker 4: Honestly, I think Kyrie Irbin has a better handle than Shamguard.

2894
02:13:08,080 --> 02:13:10,680
Speaker 4: But I think people will say Shamguard had the best

2895
02:13:10,720 --> 02:13:13,160
Speaker 4: handle ever. I would I would agree, But then.

2896
02:13:13,240 --> 02:13:15,200
Speaker 1: A lot of people say that Kyrie evolved it.

2897
02:13:15,280 --> 02:13:17,000
Speaker 4: You can't pitch are Shamguard in as era because you're

2898
02:13:17,000 --> 02:13:17,440
Speaker 4: not here.

2899
02:13:19,400 --> 02:13:19,680
Speaker 1: Kyrie.

2900
02:13:19,840 --> 02:13:23,520
Speaker 4: You know, like rayfaul Austin, how did he take that

2901
02:13:23,680 --> 02:13:24,160
Speaker 4: to the league?

2902
02:13:24,240 --> 02:13:27,600
Speaker 1: Like skipped his son is playing too?

2903
02:13:28,280 --> 02:13:31,120
Speaker 4: His son playing too, and I think, so you can

2904
02:13:31,240 --> 02:13:35,040
Speaker 4: you can like say, Kyrie, yeah, you know, ray Folk

2905
02:13:35,320 --> 02:13:39,480
Speaker 4: was excellent in the league as a as a as

2906
02:13:39,480 --> 02:13:40,320
Speaker 4: a street ball player.

2907
02:13:41,480 --> 02:13:42,800
Speaker 1: Did you ever do anything with an one?

2908
02:13:44,520 --> 02:13:46,720
Speaker 4: I never done. I played in one tournaments. I was

2909
02:13:46,760 --> 02:13:48,960
Speaker 4: the one era. I got Player of the Year in

2910
02:13:49,040 --> 02:13:52,840
Speaker 4: New York City two thousand and eight Nike prom you know.

2911
02:13:53,040 --> 02:13:55,600
Speaker 4: So then I'm like, I'm playing. I know that there's

2912
02:13:55,640 --> 02:13:57,080
Speaker 4: a player of the Year and something. Because when I

2913
02:13:57,120 --> 02:13:58,400
Speaker 4: got to the league, I was I was playing in

2914
02:13:58,400 --> 02:14:00,800
Speaker 4: the streetball I was playing four game today while I

2915
02:14:00,800 --> 02:14:04,400
Speaker 4: was in the league. Didn't tell you, you know, in

2916
02:14:04,440 --> 02:14:07,880
Speaker 4: the summer time in my crime, in different tournaments I played.

2917
02:14:07,880 --> 02:14:10,320
Speaker 4: I got championships every tournament. You know what I mean?

2918
02:14:11,000 --> 02:14:12,800
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. So, so from that perspective,

2919
02:14:12,880 --> 02:14:13,120
Speaker 4: it was.

2920
02:14:13,200 --> 02:14:15,800
Speaker 11: Like, so once again, who's in this circle saying don't

2921
02:14:15,800 --> 02:14:16,840
Speaker 11: do that, because what do you get hurt?

2922
02:14:17,840 --> 02:14:20,840
Speaker 4: But I didn't need I wasn't hurt. I was still

2923
02:14:20,920 --> 02:14:22,920
Speaker 4: I was still dishing up, I was still dishing out paying.

2924
02:14:23,400 --> 02:14:26,560
Speaker 1: I ain't hurt nobody. They they the ones I'm in

2925
02:14:26,600 --> 02:14:28,520
Speaker 1: the streets, I'm in New York point Bastist basketball.

2926
02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:31,160
Speaker 4: But I'm saying like, so in two thousand and eight,

2927
02:14:31,400 --> 02:14:34,240
Speaker 4: they gave the MVP to Junie Sanders. It was a night.

2928
02:14:34,480 --> 02:14:36,600
Speaker 4: So I got a Nike m v P and Nike

2929
02:14:36,680 --> 02:14:38,440
Speaker 4: Pro City two thousand and eight big, it's a big one,

2930
02:14:39,280 --> 02:14:40,960
Speaker 4: and I got to work at MVP a lot of those.

2931
02:14:41,000 --> 02:14:43,680
Speaker 4: But also but that year, Junior got Player of the

2932
02:14:43,760 --> 02:14:46,080
Speaker 4: Year player the summer. How he playing the summer.

2933
02:14:46,080 --> 02:14:48,640
Speaker 1: He didn't win Nake Pro City to Juniy but how

2934
02:14:48,720 --> 02:14:49,080
Speaker 1: he played.

2935
02:14:49,240 --> 02:14:51,520
Speaker 4: But Nike didn't want to give me. They didn't want

2936
02:14:51,520 --> 02:14:53,480
Speaker 4: to give me a can. I'm not signing Nike. I

2937
02:14:54,040 --> 02:14:57,040
Speaker 4: don't got no difusion. I'll wear Nike. I'm the player

2938
02:14:57,040 --> 02:14:58,680
Speaker 4: of the year in the city. You're the guys that

2939
02:14:58,800 --> 02:15:02,040
Speaker 4: make it relevant, you know what I mean? So that

2940
02:15:02,200 --> 02:15:03,840
Speaker 4: year I should have been playing yet. But I say

2941
02:15:03,880 --> 02:15:07,000
Speaker 4: that because I mean, I mean, I really respect the players.

2942
02:15:07,400 --> 02:15:10,200
Speaker 4: I really respect the New York City game man. Yeah, absolutely,

2943
02:15:10,280 --> 02:15:14,640
Speaker 4: Like Raheen Johnson was Raheim Johnson. His man was the

2944
02:15:14,840 --> 02:15:16,480
Speaker 4: best player above Mike Chatfield.

2945
02:15:17,240 --> 02:15:19,160
Speaker 1: Raheem was the guy.

2946
02:15:19,120 --> 02:15:22,320
Speaker 4: That we was a level down under, right, you know

2947
02:15:22,320 --> 02:15:27,680
Speaker 4: what I mean? Was that guy he had thirty five

2948
02:15:27,880 --> 02:15:29,480
Speaker 4: in the eighth grade, were watching him. He playing with

2949
02:15:29,520 --> 02:15:32,920
Speaker 4: the high school kids with Stephan Marlbury. Maro was on

2950
02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:34,880
Speaker 4: the floor. I wasn't on the floor in mart Berry

2951
02:15:35,320 --> 02:15:38,280
Speaker 4: at that age. And Rahee had thirty. Now rah heem

2952
02:15:38,400 --> 02:15:39,080
Speaker 4: was that deal.

2953
02:15:39,360 --> 02:15:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be telling study. He always challenged right here,

2954
02:15:47,680 --> 02:15:54,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know. Wow, see the pictures Hi.

2955
02:15:54,120 --> 02:15:57,840
Speaker 4: With Kobe Rock gave me thirty. I ds Parker Revers

2956
02:15:57,960 --> 02:16:01,960
Speaker 4: was him thirty? I mean you was young, and he

2957
02:16:02,120 --> 02:16:05,400
Speaker 4: was taller, and I played against him in encore and

2958
02:16:05,440 --> 02:16:07,280
Speaker 4: he gave me work. But as I got taller.

2959
02:16:08,080 --> 02:16:09,800
Speaker 1: But it was a certain point in time, it wasn't

2960
02:16:09,800 --> 02:16:11,080
Speaker 1: It was not even fair.

2961
02:16:11,720 --> 02:16:12,720
Speaker 5: It wasn't even fair.

2962
02:16:14,080 --> 02:16:17,320
Speaker 4: Man ra would have been that. Let me tell you

2963
02:16:17,440 --> 02:16:21,680
Speaker 4: that he stopped playing. Yeah, he looking rab like you

2964
02:16:21,680 --> 02:16:24,840
Speaker 4: would look at Kobe or Lebron or okay, go go

2965
02:16:24,920 --> 02:16:29,880
Speaker 4: step goal level. But under that, that's okay, right, that's okay.

2966
02:16:30,200 --> 02:16:36,240
Speaker 1: I see hear it all the time. I'm telling you

2967
02:16:36,280 --> 02:16:39,760
Speaker 1: that I played against him because at one point that's

2968
02:16:39,760 --> 02:16:41,640
Speaker 1: what I felt like. I think he's one year older

2969
02:16:41,680 --> 02:16:47,480
Speaker 1: than you all the same you lamar old him and

2970
02:16:47,720 --> 02:16:49,520
Speaker 1: I forget the other players like we used to go

2971
02:16:49,600 --> 02:16:52,600
Speaker 1: see because remember, like you just said, far rockaway remember this.

2972
02:16:53,080 --> 02:16:56,160
Speaker 1: There was a it wasn't rock Up, but it was

2973
02:16:56,240 --> 02:16:59,320
Speaker 1: in South Jamaica and it was this dude that used

2974
02:16:59,360 --> 02:17:03,520
Speaker 1: to play the name. Okay, yeah, so I just remember

2975
02:17:03,560 --> 02:17:06,800
Speaker 1: all that error. But let me change the change the subject.

2976
02:17:07,600 --> 02:17:11,000
Speaker 1: Is it true you worked in Circus City the NBA? Yes,

2977
02:17:11,560 --> 02:17:20,600
Speaker 1: just move, but.

2978
02:17:22,360 --> 02:17:23,240
Speaker 4: I'm not making.

2979
02:17:26,200 --> 02:17:29,360
Speaker 5: I wasn't they said, they said that you were born.

2980
02:17:29,520 --> 02:17:31,160
Speaker 5: They it wasn't a money.

2981
02:17:31,080 --> 02:17:33,640
Speaker 4: Because it wasn't a money thing. But you don't have

2982
02:17:33,800 --> 02:17:36,080
Speaker 4: you can't get things you want and that is the

2983
02:17:36,120 --> 02:17:38,280
Speaker 4: money thing. But you still want to get the DVD

2984
02:17:38,520 --> 02:17:42,119
Speaker 4: if you buy ten for DVDs like that's doing.

2985
02:17:49,959 --> 02:17:50,640
Speaker 1: It was great now?

2986
02:17:51,400 --> 02:17:53,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I don't got the budge.

2987
02:17:54,320 --> 02:17:57,560
Speaker 1: I can't do you know, I gotta go to great Hair.

2988
02:17:58,120 --> 02:18:04,320
Speaker 5: You learned that ship Queens with top story? So which

2989
02:18:04,360 --> 02:18:04,720
Speaker 5: team means?

2990
02:18:04,760 --> 02:18:08,000
Speaker 1: Do you want to the bulls? With the bulls that

2991
02:18:08,120 --> 02:18:10,600
Speaker 1: paid for my car system to have price of everything?

2992
02:18:10,680 --> 02:18:11,840
Speaker 4: So that's where I went in.

2993
02:18:12,000 --> 02:18:15,560
Speaker 5: Wow, Yeah, I heard you say d v D car system.

2994
02:18:17,640 --> 02:18:22,480
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety nine. Yeah, because when the story came out,

2995
02:18:22,800 --> 02:18:25,480
Speaker 1: we thought that the people were making it up, you

2996
02:18:25,520 --> 02:18:28,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And then you see it's repeat.

2997
02:18:28,800 --> 02:18:29,600
Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy.

2998
02:18:29,720 --> 02:18:32,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, Megan was Megan was the first, you know kind

2999
02:18:32,959 --> 02:18:34,760
Speaker 4: of happen when we come to the He came to

3000
02:18:34,800 --> 02:18:35,320
Speaker 4: my first game.

3001
02:18:35,600 --> 02:18:37,200
Speaker 1: Oh cool man, he's in the first game. Pick up.

3002
02:18:37,600 --> 02:18:38,720
Speaker 4: Now came in my last game.

3003
02:18:40,879 --> 02:18:43,880
Speaker 1: Game and I came to your last. N came to

3004
02:18:44,040 --> 02:18:47,959
Speaker 1: my very last game. I was saying, course side and.

3005
02:18:48,000 --> 02:18:50,360
Speaker 4: I appreciated it, but damn, I wish she was there

3006
02:18:50,360 --> 02:18:52,840
Speaker 4: on my prime. But yeah, but but now it came

3007
02:18:52,879 --> 02:18:53,360
Speaker 4: in my last game.

3008
02:18:53,600 --> 02:18:55,120
Speaker 5: Last game was with the Knicks, right with the Lakers.

3009
02:18:55,240 --> 02:18:57,760
Speaker 1: Oh the Lakers, shout out tons, Oh you went after

3010
02:18:57,879 --> 02:18:59,200
Speaker 1: you went to the Knicks after the Lakers.

3011
02:18:59,240 --> 02:19:01,680
Speaker 4: Now I went to the Knicks after after it down,

3012
02:19:01,720 --> 02:19:02,720
Speaker 4: went back to the Lakers retiring.

3013
02:19:02,879 --> 02:19:06,560
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, okay, that's dope. Yeah, that's dope. Now

3014
02:19:07,240 --> 02:19:08,600
Speaker 1: we got one thing we got to talk about is

3015
02:19:08,720 --> 02:19:09,360
Speaker 1: your foundation?

3016
02:19:09,560 --> 02:19:09,720
Speaker 2: Man?

3017
02:19:10,200 --> 02:19:13,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, let's let's end it with that

3018
02:19:13,480 --> 02:19:17,280
Speaker 1: because anyone's one question. Because it's also a room with

3019
02:19:17,400 --> 02:19:22,360
Speaker 1: that's been killing me for years. They said that Nike

3020
02:19:22,440 --> 02:19:24,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't give you Jordan's when you played against Jordan's.

3021
02:19:24,879 --> 02:19:31,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's talking about it. I love what does the

3022
02:19:31,400 --> 02:19:34,440
Speaker 4: thing with me and Nike? I'm a Nike guy, right,

3023
02:19:35,240 --> 02:19:38,240
Speaker 4: I might not be your narrative, uh huh or whatever,

3024
02:19:39,040 --> 02:19:42,039
Speaker 4: you know what, because there's rappers that got deals. You're

3025
02:19:42,040 --> 02:19:44,080
Speaker 4: telling me. I'm mean, you're telling me this rapper, this rapper.

3026
02:19:44,200 --> 02:19:47,160
Speaker 4: You're doing stuff with this rapper and not me. And

3027
02:19:47,240 --> 02:19:51,280
Speaker 4: I'm a ball player anyway. That's my own guy, Like

3028
02:19:51,879 --> 02:19:54,280
Speaker 4: you know, I'm that guy, and that's okay.

3029
02:19:54,640 --> 02:19:57,959
Speaker 1: So you wanted to wear Jordan's while you're playing against Jordan's,

3030
02:19:58,120 --> 02:19:58,640
Speaker 1: so like.

3031
02:19:59,040 --> 02:20:03,040
Speaker 4: Nike would get one player, Jordan's only one playing Korea,

3032
02:20:03,240 --> 02:20:03,920
Speaker 4: Jordan's deal.

3033
02:20:04,160 --> 02:20:05,080
Speaker 11: I love Jordan's.

3034
02:20:05,520 --> 02:20:06,959
Speaker 4: So Reggie Miller was that guy.

3035
02:20:07,280 --> 02:20:09,640
Speaker 1: So he could wear Jordan's against Jordan against Jordan.

3036
02:20:09,720 --> 02:20:10,560
Speaker 4: But we couldn't.

3037
02:20:11,959 --> 02:20:18,480
Speaker 2: Market Anna niked Nikes mark, so I love honestly.

3038
02:20:18,480 --> 02:20:20,520
Speaker 4: I went, I got home, I went, we got a

3039
02:20:20,600 --> 02:20:24,200
Speaker 4: neck hand, yeah right now, But I were a nice

3040
02:20:25,120 --> 02:20:29,760
Speaker 4: they can control that anyway. So what I did was

3041
02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:32,560
Speaker 4: I drove from Indiana after shoot a round. I drove

3042
02:20:32,640 --> 02:20:35,720
Speaker 4: four hours, three hours to Chicago, whatever the time was,

3043
02:20:36,560 --> 02:20:41,039
Speaker 4: went to the Nike store outside sixteens, drove back to Indiana, showed.

3044
02:20:40,879 --> 02:20:43,320
Speaker 1: Up late to the game in Indiana.

3045
02:20:44,040 --> 02:20:45,800
Speaker 4: But I was gonna play with some mics against Mike,

3046
02:20:45,840 --> 02:20:51,200
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not not playing like if I'm playing

3047
02:20:51,200 --> 02:20:53,439
Speaker 4: against Penny Hardaway, I need those pennies.

3048
02:20:55,120 --> 02:20:55,400
Speaker 2: You heard.

3049
02:20:55,440 --> 02:20:57,920
Speaker 4: I mean like, I'm not I know, disrespect. Anyway, that

3050
02:20:58,040 --> 02:21:00,000
Speaker 4: was that problem. And then I used to order sound

3051
02:21:00,200 --> 02:21:02,879
Speaker 4: sixteen Jordan's. Then when they told the storm.

3052
02:21:02,720 --> 02:21:06,760
Speaker 1: Stopped giving me his shoes in Chicago, I would call like, hey,

3053
02:21:06,800 --> 02:21:11,400
Speaker 1: this is Kenny. Yeah. Differently at sixteen, I will.

3054
02:21:11,360 --> 02:21:15,199
Speaker 4: Order sixteen and they't stop laying my phone order sixteen.

3055
02:21:20,280 --> 02:21:22,520
Speaker 1: That's sixteen was probably like one one.

3056
02:21:23,840 --> 02:21:25,440
Speaker 4: I mean, Jordan got to think about it. Jordan was

3057
02:21:25,560 --> 02:21:27,480
Speaker 4: he got a Defensive Player of the Year about not

3058
02:21:27,560 --> 02:21:29,600
Speaker 4: want to wear Michael Jordan's you know what I mean.

3059
02:21:29,640 --> 02:21:33,000
Speaker 4: So these guys just like you know, hip hop, I'm

3060
02:21:33,000 --> 02:21:34,120
Speaker 4: the best defensive player in the league.

3061
02:21:34,200 --> 02:21:38,120
Speaker 1: Need I need to Jordan's against Jordans, Oh my god,

3062
02:21:38,240 --> 02:21:41,920
Speaker 1: that's just so much funny. I got mad notes.

3063
02:21:42,800 --> 02:21:44,039
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, keep going.

3064
02:21:45,400 --> 02:21:45,560
Speaker 11: There.

3065
02:21:45,879 --> 02:21:47,800
Speaker 4: But it was great to play against Jordan's and Jordan's

3066
02:21:47,840 --> 02:21:50,480
Speaker 4: and man, we got talking about all the sportstuff on

3067
02:21:50,480 --> 02:21:52,600
Speaker 4: your podcast. Let's go out, Yeah we gotta do it, yeah,

3068
02:21:52,760 --> 02:21:54,360
Speaker 4: Dak sport, Yeah, sports and sports.

3069
02:21:54,680 --> 02:21:56,879
Speaker 2: You know what all those one question real quick being

3070
02:21:56,920 --> 02:21:59,160
Speaker 2: that you said that you worked as a regular job.

3071
02:21:59,360 --> 02:22:02,080
Speaker 2: What do you think about Vin Baker's latest statement. Have

3072
02:22:02,120 --> 02:22:04,760
Speaker 2: you heard anything about bigger with him saying that he's

3073
02:22:05,000 --> 02:22:05,400
Speaker 2: happy and.

3074
02:22:05,440 --> 02:22:07,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, but I saw that. Now

3075
02:22:07,720 --> 02:22:10,520
Speaker 4: that's great, man. I think like Vin Baker's at Starbucks.

3076
02:22:10,560 --> 02:22:14,560
Speaker 4: I didn't know that, and oh, yeah, that's even better

3077
02:22:14,600 --> 02:22:15,720
Speaker 4: if you you gotta do it.

3078
02:22:16,520 --> 02:22:20,200
Speaker 1: It's always the cliche Kevin Jackson too, my bad right, right.

3079
02:22:23,200 --> 02:22:26,879
Speaker 2: Of losing money per se or not making my guy,

3080
02:22:27,000 --> 02:22:29,960
Speaker 2: being an entrepreneur and being successful is big.

3081
02:22:30,520 --> 02:22:32,640
Speaker 4: No, yeah, because as athlete, people think that you make

3082
02:22:32,720 --> 02:22:36,039
Speaker 4: it and then something happening right now financial.

3083
02:22:36,120 --> 02:22:38,400
Speaker 1: Talking sports is high. It's dope to see.

3084
02:22:38,840 --> 02:22:40,760
Speaker 4: It's so dope to see, man, because I think it's

3085
02:22:40,760 --> 02:22:43,440
Speaker 4: really entertaining and I think it's really like we tell

3086
02:22:43,680 --> 02:22:46,080
Speaker 4: our mistakes to get back to the youth, and that's

3087
02:22:46,080 --> 02:22:48,480
Speaker 4: a that's better than the story of saying something to

3088
02:22:49,400 --> 02:22:50,640
Speaker 4: encourage them to do something.

3089
02:22:50,800 --> 02:22:53,480
Speaker 11: Silly, you know what I mean, or to know better.

3090
02:22:53,680 --> 02:22:55,320
Speaker 4: So then but Vin Baker is like, yeah, he worked

3091
02:22:55,320 --> 02:22:58,400
Speaker 4: at Stobbucks, that's okay, and it came up and now

3092
02:22:58,440 --> 02:23:00,760
Speaker 4: he's a coach, and like, if you're an athlete. At

3093
02:23:00,800 --> 02:23:03,080
Speaker 4: some point, you're gonna have to retire. So now, yeah,

3094
02:23:03,120 --> 02:23:05,440
Speaker 4: you gotta you have to do something different, which is

3095
02:23:05,480 --> 02:23:08,480
Speaker 4: why I'm lucky enough. He said what I said, Like

3096
02:23:08,600 --> 02:23:10,600
Speaker 4: you said, no matter what it is, you have to

3097
02:23:10,680 --> 02:23:12,600
Speaker 4: do something different. I had to do something different at

3098
02:23:12,640 --> 02:23:15,280
Speaker 4: some point in time. I'm lucky enough to be around NAS,

3099
02:23:15,360 --> 02:23:18,960
Speaker 4: like to see NASCAR from rapping two you get of

3100
02:23:19,040 --> 02:23:21,320
Speaker 4: the men. Yeah, tech, Yep. I'm lucky enough to, you know,

3101
02:23:21,440 --> 02:23:23,440
Speaker 4: kind of follow that career. Lucky enough to follow this career.

3102
02:23:23,920 --> 02:23:26,480
Speaker 4: And we have those people that can inspire you, you

3103
02:23:26,560 --> 02:23:26,959
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

3104
02:23:27,400 --> 02:23:30,439
Speaker 11: So I like the Foundation.

3105
02:23:30,440 --> 02:23:33,920
Speaker 4: Foundation ar Test Education Foundation. I launched it in two

3106
02:23:33,920 --> 02:23:36,560
Speaker 4: thousand and I launched it in two thousand and seven

3107
02:23:36,879 --> 02:23:41,040
Speaker 4: because I got paid for to go to Lasal Academy

3108
02:23:41,800 --> 02:23:45,640
Speaker 4: by mister Ernest Lutch. And he paid he Chris Mullen

3109
02:23:45,920 --> 02:23:49,320
Speaker 4: Mark Jackson ran through that program. Everybody go through that

3110
02:23:49,360 --> 02:23:53,560
Speaker 4: program where I saw our church. So he paid for

3111
02:23:53,600 --> 02:23:55,720
Speaker 4: me to go to Lasal Academy. When I made it

3112
02:23:55,760 --> 02:23:57,920
Speaker 4: to the MB, I started to give ten scholarships a year.

3113
02:23:58,800 --> 02:24:03,039
Speaker 4: I actually gave and left a scholarship to Maceell Academy.

3114
02:24:03,959 --> 02:24:07,120
Speaker 4: If I would give ten scholarships a year to go

3115
02:24:08,000 --> 02:24:12,440
Speaker 4: to school. I also gave college scholarships ethology to West

3116
02:24:12,520 --> 02:24:16,039
Speaker 4: Virginia from Queens Bridgton. And then in two thousand and seven,

3117
02:24:16,280 --> 02:24:17,840
Speaker 4: I mean it was becoming it was just cash out

3118
02:24:17,840 --> 02:24:20,920
Speaker 4: of pocket. It was like, you know, because these people

3119
02:24:20,959 --> 02:24:23,280
Speaker 4: helped me, so I want to help. So then I

3120
02:24:23,360 --> 02:24:24,960
Speaker 4: started to turn it into a five to one C

3121
02:24:25,080 --> 02:24:27,320
Speaker 4: three in two thousand and seven because I didn't know

3122
02:24:27,320 --> 02:24:28,840
Speaker 4: what a five to one C three was coming out

3123
02:24:28,840 --> 02:24:31,440
Speaker 4: of I don't know what a five one C three is.

3124
02:24:31,800 --> 02:24:33,600
Speaker 4: But then when I said, yeah, you can actually give

3125
02:24:33,640 --> 02:24:36,120
Speaker 4: scholarships and write it off, so I started to do

3126
02:24:36,200 --> 02:24:39,760
Speaker 4: that and it's legal. So that was called Excel University.

3127
02:24:39,760 --> 02:24:41,720
Speaker 4: And then why would I name it Excel Because if

3128
02:24:41,760 --> 02:24:43,800
Speaker 4: I'm giving scholarships the kids to go to school, I'm

3129
02:24:43,800 --> 02:24:46,760
Speaker 4: based in college. So I just named it an Excel University.

3130
02:24:47,000 --> 02:24:48,920
Speaker 4: But we didn't have a thesis, a theme, a mission.

3131
02:24:49,080 --> 02:24:50,720
Speaker 4: I don't know what a mission, thesis them is at

3132
02:24:50,760 --> 02:24:53,840
Speaker 4: that time. But anyway, I changed it to Artest University

3133
02:24:53,879 --> 02:24:57,000
Speaker 4: for branding. So now it's Artest University. I'm sorry, it's

3134
02:24:57,120 --> 02:24:59,200
Speaker 4: Artest University right now, but the website is art Test

3135
02:24:59,400 --> 02:25:03,480
Speaker 4: Education Foundation dot org. And it's really for a group

3136
02:25:03,520 --> 02:25:07,039
Speaker 4: of eighteen and up where we're teaching curriculum and literacy

3137
02:25:07,120 --> 02:25:08,680
Speaker 4: and health, sports and finance.

3138
02:25:09,320 --> 02:25:09,480
Speaker 1: You know.

3139
02:25:09,680 --> 02:25:12,840
Speaker 4: So initially we were trying to become a university. But

3140
02:25:12,959 --> 02:25:15,280
Speaker 4: you gotta crawl, walk in then run.

3141
02:25:15,520 --> 02:25:16,600
Speaker 11: Yes, you know what I mean.

3142
02:25:17,320 --> 02:25:21,200
Speaker 4: So we're crawling right now our Test Education Foundation, and

3143
02:25:21,320 --> 02:25:25,960
Speaker 4: right now we have curriculums that you can explore if

3144
02:25:26,000 --> 02:25:28,360
Speaker 4: you want to be in finance, health or sports.

3145
02:25:28,800 --> 02:25:32,959
Speaker 11: So so students are graduating, we're just launching.

3146
02:25:33,680 --> 02:25:37,000
Speaker 4: So my son jeron our tests as a developer and

3147
02:25:37,040 --> 02:25:40,320
Speaker 4: he went to us use USC in a cinematic art school.

3148
02:25:40,360 --> 02:25:40,600
Speaker 1: Is great.

3149
02:25:40,640 --> 02:25:44,240
Speaker 4: He's actual developer. So we're building out the product right now.

3150
02:25:45,000 --> 02:25:47,800
Speaker 4: You know, we have a product is artest Education Foundation

3151
02:25:47,879 --> 02:25:50,879
Speaker 4: dot org. We also have Icarus dot org is one

3152
02:25:50,920 --> 02:25:55,560
Speaker 4: of our other education products Easycarelink dot com. That's our

3153
02:25:55,680 --> 02:26:01,000
Speaker 4: nursing staffing company. So what we're trying to do is

3154
02:26:01,120 --> 02:26:05,480
Speaker 4: give people like things, read it and know you want

3155
02:26:05,480 --> 02:26:07,040
Speaker 4: to give it back to you and how do you

3156
02:26:08,120 --> 02:26:11,200
Speaker 4: funnel people into guidance. So he said, you know what

3157
02:26:11,320 --> 02:26:14,280
Speaker 4: for us is Artists Education Foundation dot org and I

3158
02:26:14,320 --> 02:26:18,039
Speaker 4: can get more into it. Yeah, but I just I just.

3159
02:26:18,080 --> 02:26:22,520
Speaker 1: Got this information. Man as well. You were Raheem played

3160
02:26:22,520 --> 02:26:24,199
Speaker 1: against Kobe Bryant in propertence.

3161
02:26:24,320 --> 02:26:26,560
Speaker 4: Oh man, yeah crazy ye.

3162
02:26:31,840 --> 02:26:32,520
Speaker 1: So check it out.

3163
02:26:33,520 --> 02:26:35,840
Speaker 4: So yeah it's great. Yeah, you can move any which way,

3164
02:26:35,920 --> 02:26:37,880
Speaker 4: so check it So can I just walk quick?

3165
02:26:38,200 --> 02:26:39,280
Speaker 1: Please? I'm bad.

3166
02:26:39,320 --> 02:26:46,440
Speaker 4: I went come on, got any issues like, come on,

3167
02:26:46,560 --> 02:26:48,800
Speaker 4: don't not make me a head coach.

3168
02:26:53,040 --> 02:26:55,080
Speaker 1: But so, so this is back in the days, this

3169
02:26:55,160 --> 02:26:58,359
Speaker 1: is before Kobe hit the league. You and Raheem played against.

3170
02:26:58,120 --> 02:26:59,960
Speaker 5: Him, and yeah, one game in the tournament.

3171
02:27:00,680 --> 02:27:03,920
Speaker 4: So we was in Providence coach Kevin Jackson, Vin Jackson

3172
02:27:04,120 --> 02:27:04,680
Speaker 4: Smith was there?

3173
02:27:05,400 --> 02:27:06,360
Speaker 1: Was you playing for am High?

3174
02:27:06,400 --> 02:27:07,240
Speaker 4: I played for am High?

3175
02:27:08,879 --> 02:27:10,960
Speaker 1: Was this was this High?

3176
02:27:11,040 --> 02:27:13,320
Speaker 5: Okay, let's go, Let's go all right?

3177
02:27:13,400 --> 02:27:15,880
Speaker 4: So I worked out with Vince for the first time

3178
02:27:16,520 --> 02:27:19,440
Speaker 4: after Gacho Jim. I got kept from Amy High.

3179
02:27:19,840 --> 02:27:20,040
Speaker 1: Wow.

3180
02:27:20,160 --> 02:27:22,280
Speaker 4: Eric Chafford who played in high school, we got championship together,

3181
02:27:22,400 --> 02:27:24,720
Speaker 4: Mike Chafford brother. So I lost the spot to Erica,

3182
02:27:25,160 --> 02:27:25,920
Speaker 4: but I went to every game.

3183
02:27:25,959 --> 02:27:26,400
Speaker 1: I was heated.

3184
02:27:26,440 --> 02:27:28,320
Speaker 4: I went to every game. I wanted to show him

3185
02:27:28,680 --> 02:27:32,000
Speaker 4: I'm dedicated. So I went to every game Am High

3186
02:27:32,040 --> 02:27:34,400
Speaker 4: and I didn't play. Raheem was on that team, right,

3187
02:27:34,520 --> 02:27:37,160
Speaker 4: right right, and then I made I made the team

3188
02:27:37,200 --> 02:27:38,880
Speaker 4: the next year because I was I should have been playing,

3189
02:27:39,000 --> 02:27:40,880
Speaker 4: but I showed him why then I made the team.

3190
02:27:40,920 --> 02:27:42,920
Speaker 4: He put me on the singing team. Here right here,

3191
02:27:43,400 --> 02:27:47,040
Speaker 4: he put me on the sing team. I'm I'm sixty five,

3192
02:27:47,120 --> 02:27:52,720
Speaker 4: but I saw coss I who have to date that?

3193
02:28:00,959 --> 02:28:05,760
Speaker 4: So I'm six three and a half. Okay, okay at

3194
02:28:05,800 --> 02:28:10,400
Speaker 4: that point. And then it's a great story. So Sham

3195
02:28:10,480 --> 02:28:13,360
Speaker 4: guards on the team. That's Shahan Holloween, Shan Hollowey head

3196
02:28:13,400 --> 02:28:15,160
Speaker 4: Coachy Hall. So we all have a team with Dwayne

3197
02:28:15,240 --> 02:28:19,320
Speaker 4: Edwich who and then and Sham and Ryhan. I'm coming

3198
02:28:19,360 --> 02:28:21,400
Speaker 4: off the bench. I'm at the end. You also have

3199
02:28:21,520 --> 02:28:25,920
Speaker 4: shar Anyways, other players something. Kobe is killing. I don't

3200
02:28:25,920 --> 02:28:30,080
Speaker 4: get into the fourth he has thirty two Jackson run.

3201
02:28:30,160 --> 02:28:34,320
Speaker 4: I'm run at the time. Kevin's a personality, Yes he is. Yes,

3202
02:28:34,480 --> 02:28:35,280
Speaker 4: you got to have him in the show.

3203
02:28:35,360 --> 02:28:36,280
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, of course, off.

3204
02:28:36,200 --> 02:28:41,720
Speaker 4: Will so so ket Jackson get in the game and

3205
02:28:41,800 --> 02:28:44,920
Speaker 4: put me on Kobe. So then Kobe had eight points

3206
02:28:44,959 --> 02:28:46,880
Speaker 4: on me, said he did in with forty and we

3207
02:28:46,959 --> 02:28:48,960
Speaker 4: talked about this, so I can talk about this. But

3208
02:28:49,080 --> 02:28:52,280
Speaker 4: he had eight points on me, right a right maybe six.

3209
02:28:52,480 --> 02:28:58,400
Speaker 4: He said he was on that team from off right.

3210
02:28:58,440 --> 02:29:00,400
Speaker 4: He was starting Raheem was not going to Kobe. He

3211
02:29:00,560 --> 02:29:03,039
Speaker 4: was not the best offender, but he was okay, good readback.

3212
02:29:03,680 --> 02:29:05,800
Speaker 4: And I think Shan was gone Dwayne Dwayne Edwards was

3213
02:29:05,840 --> 02:29:06,440
Speaker 4: going Kobe.

3214
02:29:06,680 --> 02:29:07,720
Speaker 1: I think Shan was gone.

3215
02:29:07,840 --> 02:29:10,320
Speaker 4: I got shared he was going Kobe. But then they

3216
02:29:10,400 --> 02:29:11,840
Speaker 4: you know, but then they needed me on Kobe.

3217
02:29:12,320 --> 02:29:13,360
Speaker 1: But right, he was on that team.

3218
02:29:13,520 --> 02:29:15,959
Speaker 4: And fast forward and could you got to get flowers,

3219
02:29:16,040 --> 02:29:16,800
Speaker 4: Trahan Johnson.

3220
02:29:16,800 --> 02:29:18,160
Speaker 1: I always do it. I've been doing.

3221
02:29:19,440 --> 02:29:21,160
Speaker 4: I think you a flowers to Rhem form day one.

3222
02:29:21,200 --> 02:29:22,400
Speaker 4: I'm a day one righteem guy?

3223
02:29:24,280 --> 02:29:26,480
Speaker 1: Did he know that? But yeah, he was on that game.

3224
02:29:26,560 --> 02:29:30,760
Speaker 4: He played very well at least Rightian Johnson, he's talking

3225
02:29:30,760 --> 02:29:31,600
Speaker 4: about twenty Yeah.

3226
02:29:35,200 --> 02:29:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Let me just like, because Kobe is a Philadelphia

3227
02:29:42,920 --> 02:29:46,440
Speaker 1: player at the time, he's Philly's Philly Yeah, okay, so

3228
02:29:46,640 --> 02:29:48,000
Speaker 1: is he the man in Philly.

3229
02:29:48,800 --> 02:29:51,600
Speaker 4: Because he went to Italy with his dad. I heard

3230
02:29:51,720 --> 02:29:53,760
Speaker 4: on the stories. He would have to tell me his age.

3231
02:29:53,760 --> 02:29:54,800
Speaker 4: I can tell you where I was at if you

3232
02:29:54,840 --> 02:29:57,440
Speaker 4: something how old he was. But he was away for

3233
02:29:57,480 --> 02:29:59,680
Speaker 4: a long time because his dad was overseas. Wow, his

3234
02:29:59,800 --> 02:30:02,480
Speaker 4: dad from Mury Bertram, Philadelphia. My my dad went to

3235
02:30:02,560 --> 02:30:03,120
Speaker 4: Mary Bertram.

3236
02:30:03,600 --> 02:30:05,119
Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy.

3237
02:30:05,360 --> 02:30:07,520
Speaker 4: My dad went to Mary Bertram. My dad from Philly.

3238
02:30:07,840 --> 02:30:10,760
Speaker 5: Oh, I didn't know Phill the Bridge.

3239
02:30:11,400 --> 02:30:13,040
Speaker 4: I'm from the Bridge. My dad from Philly.

3240
02:30:15,160 --> 02:30:17,800
Speaker 1: And then we covered this and I think said, did

3241
02:30:17,840 --> 02:30:20,039
Speaker 1: you send mad kids from Queensbridge to Catholic School?

3242
02:30:20,160 --> 02:30:22,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, we sent a lot of kids. We had We

3243
02:30:22,520 --> 02:30:25,680
Speaker 4: had a great program. Jose was running the actual Stummer League,

3244
02:30:25,680 --> 02:30:27,680
Speaker 4: so we had a triple threat. And even Lance Stevenson

3245
02:30:27,720 --> 02:30:29,520
Speaker 4: played in that league. People come to me and say

3246
02:30:29,560 --> 02:30:31,560
Speaker 4: they played in the league. I don't even know even

3247
02:30:31,680 --> 02:30:36,040
Speaker 4: like I think my god Green from the Spurs wown. Yeah,

3248
02:30:36,080 --> 02:30:38,320
Speaker 4: my god, Danny Green. Danny Green, he said he played

3249
02:30:38,360 --> 02:30:38,920
Speaker 4: triple crests.

3250
02:30:38,920 --> 02:30:40,000
Speaker 1: So we have dad Wow.

3251
02:30:40,120 --> 02:30:42,160
Speaker 4: And then we have and then so from that, that

3252
02:30:42,320 --> 02:30:44,400
Speaker 4: was a spin off for all the scholarships we was given.

3253
02:30:44,680 --> 02:30:46,280
Speaker 4: So we gave a lot of people scholarships.

3254
02:30:47,959 --> 02:30:48,360
Speaker 5: It was great.

3255
02:30:48,400 --> 02:30:49,040
Speaker 4: It was feeling.

3256
02:30:49,800 --> 02:30:52,760
Speaker 11: Yeah, man with the girls basketball.

3257
02:30:52,840 --> 02:30:54,760
Speaker 4: Now I'm doing girls basketball. I'm trying to get.

3258
02:30:54,600 --> 02:30:57,000
Speaker 5: Into the league before you go slim that.

3259
02:30:58,720 --> 02:30:59,920
Speaker 1: And I know you you don't.

3260
02:31:00,080 --> 02:31:00,960
Speaker 5: You definitely don't have to.

3261
02:31:01,040 --> 02:31:03,600
Speaker 10: And I know you coached girls basketball you would never

3262
02:31:04,120 --> 02:31:06,880
Speaker 10: do one season with the Big Three, if you know.

3263
02:31:08,000 --> 02:31:10,800
Speaker 1: I did the Big Three, but my money wasn't good.

3264
02:31:11,320 --> 02:31:12,800
Speaker 11: Okay, wow, But I.

3265
02:31:12,840 --> 02:31:16,480
Speaker 4: Wanted to invest. I didn't want the contract. Whatever you're

3266
02:31:16,520 --> 02:31:17,480
Speaker 4: gona pay me and put it in. I want to

3267
02:31:17,520 --> 02:31:19,720
Speaker 4: want to to next to five exits. And then they

3268
02:31:19,800 --> 02:31:21,680
Speaker 4: turned it down. So I was gonna But did they

3269
02:31:21,720 --> 02:31:22,800
Speaker 4: my guys, I can see why.

3270
02:31:23,280 --> 02:31:23,640
Speaker 12: So I did.

3271
02:31:23,800 --> 02:31:25,680
Speaker 4: I played. I played in the Big Three, but I

3272
02:31:25,720 --> 02:31:27,800
Speaker 4: ain't playing a while. I would like for them to

3273
02:31:27,840 --> 02:31:31,400
Speaker 4: take my investment at that same valuation. What am I

3274
02:31:31,959 --> 02:31:33,320
Speaker 4: drug deal athletes?

3275
02:31:36,280 --> 02:31:36,440
Speaker 1: You know?

3276
02:31:36,560 --> 02:31:39,360
Speaker 4: And now if you're selling for that X now keep

3277
02:31:39,400 --> 02:31:41,440
Speaker 4: in mind, only really care about it, honestly. But it's

3278
02:31:41,480 --> 02:31:45,000
Speaker 4: a great thing to discuss because financial literacy is hot

3279
02:31:45,120 --> 02:31:48,840
Speaker 4: right now, you know what I mean, it's hot right

3280
02:31:48,920 --> 02:31:51,560
Speaker 4: now about a year one, a long time ago.

3281
02:31:51,760 --> 02:31:52,400
Speaker 11: That's what I'm saying.

3282
02:31:52,440 --> 02:31:56,320
Speaker 4: Even even all the smoke. Shout out to my god,

3283
02:31:56,400 --> 02:31:57,680
Speaker 4: got Jacky playing the game and together.

3284
02:31:57,879 --> 02:31:58,080
Speaker 11: Yeah.

3285
02:31:58,440 --> 02:32:00,640
Speaker 4: So I did choet on the is in the first

3286
02:32:00,680 --> 02:32:05,720
Speaker 4: ever launch of show Sports. So I was supposed to

3287
02:32:05,760 --> 02:32:09,280
Speaker 4: do the podcast about turn it down because principle, you

3288
02:32:09,320 --> 02:32:10,960
Speaker 4: know what I mean, it's like everybody trying to make money.

3289
02:32:11,280 --> 02:32:13,640
Speaker 4: You want to ask me, are you in this for

3290
02:32:13,760 --> 02:32:15,800
Speaker 4: the money? I mean I think so, yeah.

3291
02:32:17,560 --> 02:32:19,360
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean you can have a value.

3292
02:32:20,120 --> 02:32:20,480
Speaker 1: Why not?

3293
02:32:20,840 --> 02:32:25,240
Speaker 4: But of course yeah, everybody's so. Now, yeah, a return

3294
02:32:25,320 --> 02:32:29,240
Speaker 4: on your ROI R return from your from your credit

3295
02:32:29,360 --> 02:32:32,320
Speaker 4: or debt financier you're getting it from. So everybody's trying

3296
02:32:32,360 --> 02:32:35,520
Speaker 4: to create r o I. So now I pass on

3297
02:32:35,600 --> 02:32:38,600
Speaker 4: opportunities and I'm happy to see my guys win. I

3298
02:32:38,720 --> 02:32:41,120
Speaker 4: talked to Stack for an hour on the phone about publication.

3299
02:32:41,200 --> 02:32:42,400
Speaker 1: This is the publication business.

3300
02:32:43,360 --> 02:32:48,000
Speaker 4: This is media, right, So my guy, I think I

3301
02:32:48,040 --> 02:32:51,040
Speaker 4: would have negotiate terms like this Here I say it,

3302
02:32:52,000 --> 02:32:53,840
Speaker 4: and I'm happy to winning. But as the principle, I

3303
02:32:53,879 --> 02:32:55,440
Speaker 4: don't care if you're gonna tell me, well, I'll give

3304
02:32:55,520 --> 02:32:57,120
Speaker 4: somebody else to deal if you don't want to get

3305
02:32:57,120 --> 02:33:00,440
Speaker 4: me the deal, because I'm reading all the red lines right.

3306
02:33:01,480 --> 02:33:03,880
Speaker 4: But I'm like, okay, give it to my guys. We

3307
02:33:04,000 --> 02:33:08,080
Speaker 4: all win. But if that's saying situation wasn't reverse when

3308
02:33:08,080 --> 02:33:10,120
Speaker 4: I heard it, I'm not. I can't work with you,

3309
02:33:10,200 --> 02:33:12,720
Speaker 4: not kind. I don't like you because you don't respect.

3310
02:33:13,000 --> 02:33:15,520
Speaker 4: You're looking at a narrative. We don't got to always

3311
02:33:15,600 --> 02:33:18,920
Speaker 4: entertain So anyway, from that perspective, like you know, it's

3312
02:33:19,000 --> 02:33:21,560
Speaker 4: things like that that we could talk about, and it's

3313
02:33:21,640 --> 02:33:24,640
Speaker 4: not to really attack the other side. It's more to

3314
02:33:24,720 --> 02:33:26,840
Speaker 4: give it a different respective people not hearing these stories,

3315
02:33:28,280 --> 02:33:31,560
Speaker 4: you know. So anyway, was.

3316
02:33:31,640 --> 02:33:37,800
Speaker 1: Matt Harper one of your toughest players besides Lebron? Matt Harping?

3317
02:33:37,840 --> 02:33:40,000
Speaker 1: I like Matt Harping, and thanks for bringing this up, man,

3318
02:33:40,000 --> 02:33:40,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

3319
02:33:41,040 --> 02:33:44,240
Speaker 4: This is awesome. So I threw it out there. It

3320
02:33:44,400 --> 02:33:47,080
Speaker 4: was like, who is who you miss playing the most?

3321
02:33:47,080 --> 02:33:49,800
Speaker 4: Who's your toughest opponent? I said, Matt Harping. But that

3322
02:33:49,959 --> 02:33:53,720
Speaker 4: didn't catch momentum media from media perspective, so I go

3323
02:33:53,800 --> 02:33:56,440
Speaker 4: back to like Lebron. But the reason I say Matt

3324
02:33:56,480 --> 02:33:58,920
Speaker 4: Harpring is because when me and Matt Harping used to

3325
02:33:58,959 --> 02:34:01,760
Speaker 4: play with football, it was we never we never fought,

3326
02:34:02,120 --> 02:34:05,040
Speaker 4: we never threw punctures, but it was great. It was

3327
02:34:05,120 --> 02:34:07,720
Speaker 4: physical and I missed Mad And when he retired, I

3328
02:34:07,840 --> 02:34:10,680
Speaker 4: was I was retiring. I'm like, damn, we're playing in Utah.

3329
02:34:11,160 --> 02:34:13,520
Speaker 4: I can't wait to play against Mad. It's do on

3330
02:34:13,600 --> 02:34:19,879
Speaker 4: the sideline, I said, man, what you're doing retired? That's

3331
02:34:19,959 --> 02:34:22,560
Speaker 4: my God, they're trying to break my shoulder one time,

3332
02:34:22,760 --> 02:34:24,640
Speaker 4: like he almost broke my shoulder, and I was like,

3333
02:34:24,680 --> 02:34:25,760
Speaker 4: that's a good one. That's a good one.

3334
02:34:26,200 --> 02:34:27,400
Speaker 1: That's a good because he was.

3335
02:34:27,440 --> 02:34:30,080
Speaker 4: Boxing me, I caught my shoulder paulted and poulted out

3336
02:34:30,120 --> 02:34:30,600
Speaker 4: of socket.

3337
02:34:31,160 --> 02:34:33,280
Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, I was like, you know

3338
02:34:33,320 --> 02:34:33,640
Speaker 1: what I mean.

3339
02:34:34,120 --> 02:34:39,080
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, that's my guy anyway, But yeah,

3340
02:34:39,120 --> 02:34:40,520
Speaker 4: I missed mad Wow.

3341
02:34:41,320 --> 02:34:43,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, the competition thing no more.

3342
02:34:43,480 --> 02:34:48,240
Speaker 2: When from that perspective, it's not only when and attack

3343
02:34:48,600 --> 02:34:50,119
Speaker 2: is compete at the highest level.

3344
02:34:50,320 --> 02:34:52,879
Speaker 4: He would do anything. He would do anything then. Yeah,

3345
02:34:52,959 --> 02:34:55,720
Speaker 4: but we really only had we had a relationship like that.

3346
02:34:56,040 --> 02:34:58,720
Speaker 4: I had a relationship like that other places.

3347
02:35:00,280 --> 02:35:01,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, besides the.

3348
02:35:03,879 --> 02:35:07,600
Speaker 1: Big Three? Do you do you actually miss the game? Period? Oh?

3349
02:35:07,800 --> 02:35:08,480
Speaker 4: Big three is great.

3350
02:35:08,480 --> 02:35:11,280
Speaker 1: I love the Big Three. I actually tried to raise

3351
02:35:11,640 --> 02:35:12,720
Speaker 1: with the NBA.

3352
02:35:13,000 --> 02:35:14,119
Speaker 5: Do you miss being an NBA?

3353
02:35:14,640 --> 02:35:16,920
Speaker 4: NBA sorry NBA? Yeah, Oh I love the NBA. When

3354
02:35:16,920 --> 02:35:20,720
Speaker 4: I first retired, it was hard, so I told my

3355
02:35:20,720 --> 02:35:22,320
Speaker 4: whole team, I don't want to be around the NBA.

3356
02:35:23,120 --> 02:35:24,760
Speaker 4: You know why, because I had a long career. My

3357
02:35:24,800 --> 02:35:26,720
Speaker 4: career was different from people. Also for other people, I

3358
02:35:26,760 --> 02:35:32,040
Speaker 4: don't care what they say so I did eighteen, So

3359
02:35:32,080 --> 02:35:33,920
Speaker 4: I took a long break, but I love that I

3360
02:35:33,959 --> 02:35:37,200
Speaker 4: missed the NBA. You see, when you first retire, you

3361
02:35:37,240 --> 02:35:39,200
Speaker 4: want to play. When you first retire, you see a

3362
02:35:39,240 --> 02:35:41,960
Speaker 4: player you want to play. But I think when you

3363
02:35:42,000 --> 02:35:43,680
Speaker 4: get older, you become a fan. Now I'm a big fan,

3364
02:35:43,879 --> 02:35:45,720
Speaker 4: like and it's great just to be a part of

3365
02:35:45,720 --> 02:35:47,720
Speaker 4: the NBA. We actually have a sports fund it's called

3366
02:35:47,800 --> 02:35:51,800
Speaker 4: a Sports Group, wow, and we're looking to invest in

3367
02:35:51,840 --> 02:35:55,160
Speaker 4: sports teams, uh, in sports real estate. And it's great

3368
02:35:55,200 --> 02:35:57,040
Speaker 4: to have a you know, to be able to still

3369
02:35:57,080 --> 02:35:59,240
Speaker 4: try to win and to be able to compete for

3370
02:35:59,320 --> 02:36:00,000
Speaker 4: a championship.

3371
02:36:00,480 --> 02:36:00,920
Speaker 1: That's why we.

3372
02:36:00,959 --> 02:36:04,119
Speaker 4: Started this, all right, we tried eighteen times, we got one,

3373
02:36:04,760 --> 02:36:07,280
Speaker 4: all right, cool, But now you can win more. You

3374
02:36:07,320 --> 02:36:10,280
Speaker 4: can still win more NBA championships. So anyway, we have

3375
02:36:10,360 --> 02:36:14,119
Speaker 4: a sports group. So anyway, I'm still involved with the NBA.

3376
02:36:14,120 --> 02:36:16,600
Speaker 4: I do a lot of community service. So I probably

3377
02:36:16,640 --> 02:36:19,000
Speaker 4: can't play like I would like to, but I can

3378
02:36:19,040 --> 02:36:20,440
Speaker 4: still I can contribute.

3379
02:36:20,879 --> 02:36:22,920
Speaker 5: Right, do you think you can actually still play.

3380
02:36:23,320 --> 02:36:25,240
Speaker 4: If I had I'm forty six, so if I had

3381
02:36:25,320 --> 02:36:28,080
Speaker 4: three years to train, yes, but I would need a

3382
02:36:28,120 --> 02:36:31,240
Speaker 4: contract because I'm not I can't train. I'm not training.

3383
02:36:31,320 --> 02:36:33,480
Speaker 4: Just the word guests. They would have to like pay

3384
02:36:33,520 --> 02:36:36,440
Speaker 4: me like now and then I can train for three years.

3385
02:36:37,360 --> 02:36:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm not ready. Now you'll be available eighty two games

3386
02:36:39,920 --> 02:36:40,560
Speaker 1: when you're fifty.

3387
02:36:41,320 --> 02:36:44,840
Speaker 4: Nobody's available any two games. I did play fifty, I

3388
02:36:44,879 --> 02:36:46,880
Speaker 4: could play maybe forty five games in the games.

3389
02:36:49,200 --> 02:36:54,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't need to trade older than Lebrond in the

3390
02:36:54,280 --> 02:36:56,039
Speaker 1: NBA I would need. I wouldn't need two three years

3391
02:36:56,080 --> 02:37:02,119
Speaker 1: to get ready for you. Yeah you know, yeah, yeah,

3392
02:37:02,120 --> 02:37:04,560
Speaker 1: I wouln't need to three years didn't be competitive and

3393
02:37:04,680 --> 02:37:07,240
Speaker 1: be competing. I wouldn't need to three years NBA right now,

3394
02:37:07,600 --> 02:37:07,920
Speaker 1: I mean.

3395
02:37:09,640 --> 02:37:10,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, three years, I can do it.

3396
02:37:16,720 --> 02:37:17,720
Speaker 1: I can't do it right now.

3397
02:37:17,959 --> 02:37:24,080
Speaker 2: No, No, let's just say G League the fundamentals coming in.

3398
02:37:24,280 --> 02:37:27,879
Speaker 2: How do you feel about you participating in er cheers

3399
02:37:29,080 --> 02:37:31,480
Speaker 2: participating in the league. Do you think G League is

3400
02:37:31,520 --> 02:37:33,600
Speaker 2: important the way it was back then?

3401
02:37:34,080 --> 02:37:34,960
Speaker 1: Where did you know?

3402
02:37:35,640 --> 02:37:38,480
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I think is ready. I like it

3403
02:37:38,560 --> 02:37:40,400
Speaker 4: because it's a good model. Also, you can invest in

3404
02:37:40,440 --> 02:37:42,960
Speaker 4: these teams. A lot of people don't know, like if

3405
02:37:42,959 --> 02:37:44,119
Speaker 4: you would invest invest.

3406
02:37:43,879 --> 02:37:46,720
Speaker 2: In the league team jail then operated by the by

3407
02:37:46,760 --> 02:37:48,000
Speaker 2: the big Dogs, by the NBA.

3408
02:37:48,120 --> 02:37:50,080
Speaker 4: They are, but they're still taking investments to a vehicle

3409
02:37:50,680 --> 02:37:53,680
Speaker 4: and now they now they are growing, and I love

3410
02:37:53,720 --> 02:37:54,280
Speaker 4: the G League.

3411
02:37:54,280 --> 02:37:57,080
Speaker 2: I think I can't let you finish answer that. Sorry,

3412
02:37:58,440 --> 02:38:01,600
Speaker 2: Is that aside parallel staying with the w n b A.

3413
02:38:01,879 --> 02:38:03,880
Speaker 2: Do they have the same as far you can invest

3414
02:38:04,080 --> 02:38:06,040
Speaker 2: w No, But I'm talking about like the G League

3415
02:38:06,160 --> 02:38:06,800
Speaker 2: and investing in.

3416
02:38:06,840 --> 02:38:08,600
Speaker 1: The w n b A don't have a G league.

3417
02:38:08,920 --> 02:38:10,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, w n b A don't have a G

3418
02:38:10,720 --> 02:38:12,880
Speaker 4: I coached women's sports for seven years, so I'm also

3419
02:38:12,959 --> 02:38:14,600
Speaker 4: I'm a proponent. I kind of see what's going on.

3420
02:38:15,120 --> 02:38:17,920
Speaker 4: But yeah, women's sports is about to blow up. Yes,

3421
02:38:18,040 --> 02:38:20,880
Speaker 4: you know, I like women fastball. You missed the first

3422
02:38:21,080 --> 02:38:23,360
Speaker 4: you missed the first round, so that round is done.

3423
02:38:23,400 --> 02:38:26,040
Speaker 4: But women's fast call man just throwing the ball overhead.

3424
02:38:26,560 --> 02:38:27,640
Speaker 4: We always wanted to see that.

3425
02:38:28,480 --> 02:38:31,640
Speaker 11: They also got a volleyball professional too.

3426
02:38:31,640 --> 02:38:33,400
Speaker 4: Volleyball and they're making money too.

3427
02:38:33,520 --> 02:38:35,360
Speaker 5: But also like going back to the.

3428
02:38:36,920 --> 02:38:37,680
Speaker 1: The Big three.

3429
02:38:38,040 --> 02:38:42,360
Speaker 10: Yes, the same day Drink Champs was on Bloomberg, Yeah,

3430
02:38:42,560 --> 02:38:43,560
Speaker 10: ice Cube was on.

3431
02:38:44,240 --> 02:38:45,160
Speaker 5: They got an I p O.

3432
02:38:46,920 --> 02:38:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

3433
02:38:47,320 --> 02:38:55,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm saying so it came back around. No, that's

3434
02:38:55,720 --> 02:38:58,080
Speaker 4: how I tell my guys patient patient capital?

3435
02:38:58,480 --> 02:39:00,200
Speaker 5: How many ten said he wanted to be what he

3436
02:39:00,400 --> 02:39:01,240
Speaker 5: is paid?

3437
02:39:01,360 --> 02:39:02,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to come mind, that's the first

3438
02:39:02,680 --> 02:39:05,640
Speaker 4: conversation be able to do it. I got a little excited. Sorry,

3439
02:39:05,640 --> 02:39:10,320
Speaker 4: I Q he's speaking the right lad. It's important, my guy,

3440
02:39:11,160 --> 02:39:12,920
Speaker 4: you founded a group and your investors.

3441
02:39:12,920 --> 02:39:13,480
Speaker 1: I love you all.

3442
02:39:13,760 --> 02:39:15,440
Speaker 4: I know a lot of the investors. But this is

3443
02:39:15,680 --> 02:39:18,760
Speaker 4: an emotion at that point in time, you know.

3444
02:39:18,959 --> 02:39:22,160
Speaker 1: And it's like, accept the capital because we started that

3445
02:39:22,320 --> 02:39:22,880
Speaker 1: league Iverson.

3446
02:39:22,920 --> 02:39:26,240
Speaker 4: I thought Iverson owned some of it, but but we

3447
02:39:26,320 --> 02:39:29,440
Speaker 4: started that league. So when you don't accept people's money,

3448
02:39:29,840 --> 02:39:32,840
Speaker 4: it's like who am I? Who am I?

3449
02:39:35,240 --> 02:39:35,400
Speaker 1: You know?

3450
02:39:35,680 --> 02:39:36,040
Speaker 11: Who am I?

3451
02:39:36,160 --> 02:39:38,520
Speaker 4: You don't accept my money? So anyway from that perspective,

3452
02:39:38,560 --> 02:39:41,000
Speaker 4: and that's an opportunity for somebody to grow wealth in

3453
02:39:41,080 --> 02:39:43,400
Speaker 4: the future, you know. So now you're not thinking about

3454
02:39:43,440 --> 02:39:45,000
Speaker 4: fast money. We think about long money, and you go

3455
02:39:45,120 --> 02:39:45,520
Speaker 4: against that.

3456
02:39:46,240 --> 02:39:49,000
Speaker 2: So this is just a lesson playing Devil's advocate as

3457
02:39:49,000 --> 02:39:50,880
Speaker 2: a businessman. What if IQ is like, what if it

3458
02:39:50,959 --> 02:39:52,560
Speaker 2: don't work? We don't want to waste him money.

3459
02:39:53,240 --> 02:39:58,400
Speaker 4: Seventy five thousand a lot of money. Sorry, it's a

3460
02:39:58,440 --> 02:40:02,600
Speaker 4: lot of money, but it's an investment. It's a venture capital,

3461
02:40:02,680 --> 02:40:06,000
Speaker 4: early stage, family and friends investment, like you know what

3462
02:40:06,040 --> 02:40:10,080
Speaker 4: I mean. So anyway, from that perspective, now, I hope,

3463
02:40:10,240 --> 02:40:13,520
Speaker 4: I hope the Big Three put me in that valuation.

3464
02:40:13,680 --> 02:40:17,640
Speaker 4: I deserve it because I played yes right, and then let's.

3465
02:40:17,480 --> 02:40:19,240
Speaker 1: Make it a public company, go billion, making a billion

3466
02:40:19,280 --> 02:40:19,720
Speaker 1: dollar company.

3467
02:40:19,920 --> 02:40:22,520
Speaker 4: It has the potential. But I think they got to

3468
02:40:22,560 --> 02:40:24,360
Speaker 4: work with I think the NBA would have to work.

3469
02:40:24,400 --> 02:40:25,640
Speaker 4: I think they should work together somehow.

3470
02:40:25,720 --> 02:40:27,040
Speaker 5: But I believe they think they will.

3471
02:40:27,320 --> 02:40:27,920
Speaker 1: I think they will.

3472
02:40:27,959 --> 02:40:30,880
Speaker 4: I mean like it, but I think I guarantee you

3473
02:40:30,959 --> 02:40:33,280
Speaker 4: it works. You know why, I'm ice Cube and then

3474
02:40:33,879 --> 02:40:34,880
Speaker 4: former players.

3475
02:40:35,320 --> 02:40:39,640
Speaker 10: Why wouldn't black people want to build something to the

3476
02:40:39,920 --> 02:40:42,360
Speaker 10: highest level billion dollar couple ice.

3477
02:40:42,360 --> 02:40:44,519
Speaker 4: You're trying to invest, You're trying to invest.

3478
02:40:45,080 --> 02:40:48,520
Speaker 5: It was ice Cube one, but the X players, Yeah.

3479
02:40:48,360 --> 02:40:51,200
Speaker 4: We're gonna support you, by God, like we're investing in this.

3480
02:40:51,720 --> 02:40:54,880
Speaker 1: There's a win win win win, and we started it.

3481
02:40:55,680 --> 02:40:58,280
Speaker 4: You got the Big Three because us because of an era.

3482
02:40:58,480 --> 02:41:01,960
Speaker 2: Wait wait, that's a dangerous statement, bro as guys, because

3483
02:41:02,160 --> 02:41:05,720
Speaker 2: the wait you said we started.

3484
02:41:05,879 --> 02:41:07,640
Speaker 1: You said the Big Three started because of us.

3485
02:41:08,040 --> 02:41:10,760
Speaker 4: No, let me started ice cubes starting because exactly no, No,

3486
02:41:10,879 --> 02:41:14,240
Speaker 4: I will start ice cube. Let me not minimize his.

3487
02:41:15,160 --> 02:41:17,720
Speaker 4: But what I'm also saying is just accept my seventy

3488
02:41:17,720 --> 02:41:21,640
Speaker 4: five grand, just seventy five grand because you go to

3489
02:41:21,680 --> 02:41:23,680
Speaker 4: your next stay and we want to teach people patient

3490
02:41:24,280 --> 02:41:25,640
Speaker 4: in our neighborhood. It's fast.

3491
02:41:26,000 --> 02:41:27,480
Speaker 1: So if it's truly you're.

3492
02:41:27,360 --> 02:41:30,480
Speaker 4: Thinking fast and you want to teach patient money, we're

3493
02:41:30,480 --> 02:41:33,680
Speaker 4: about that quick ten today, right, So that's the case.

3494
02:41:33,879 --> 02:41:36,520
Speaker 4: That's what we're saying. You know what I mean. And

3495
02:41:36,680 --> 02:41:40,080
Speaker 4: that's where I think talking about this topic is okay.

3496
02:41:40,160 --> 02:41:41,560
Speaker 1: And weren't talking about it.

3497
02:41:42,040 --> 02:41:44,800
Speaker 4: I'll call and then Ice Keep was upset. I just say, sorry, man,

3498
02:41:44,840 --> 02:41:47,199
Speaker 4: I'm on drink champs.

3499
02:41:49,320 --> 02:41:51,920
Speaker 1: But it makes But yeah, I would love that deal.

3500
02:41:52,160 --> 02:41:53,400
Speaker 5: This one comes from Capone.

3501
02:41:54,280 --> 02:41:56,760
Speaker 1: He said, when you went to the NBA and Capone

3502
02:41:56,840 --> 02:41:58,879
Speaker 1: let you hold his bins for a few months, did

3503
02:41:58,959 --> 02:42:06,160
Speaker 1: you crash it? That's crazy.

3504
02:42:07,360 --> 02:42:08,400
Speaker 11: It was only a few months.

3505
02:42:09,320 --> 02:42:09,480
Speaker 1: Now.

3506
02:42:10,120 --> 02:42:13,720
Speaker 4: I don't like opening the relationships. I like close in

3507
02:42:14,040 --> 02:42:16,240
Speaker 4: how long? What's the date you want to back? That's

3508
02:42:16,240 --> 02:42:17,760
Speaker 4: what I do now. But that's it was opening the

3509
02:42:22,080 --> 02:42:23,560
Speaker 4: I just got the phone's calls my cousin.

3510
02:42:23,760 --> 02:42:27,520
Speaker 10: The story used to come down slide. I had to

3511
02:42:28,000 --> 02:42:30,800
Speaker 10: and I used to tell poem. Whichever what you want,

3512
02:42:30,840 --> 02:42:32,240
Speaker 10: I would always give it to him too.

3513
02:42:32,560 --> 02:42:37,039
Speaker 4: That's incredible. I did a donut, but Nature, Nature was crying,

3514
02:42:38,879 --> 02:42:42,320
Speaker 4: you know. Um he went to somebody realized Nation, let's

3515
02:42:42,320 --> 02:42:46,199
Speaker 4: go do some donuts. I said, we're not gonna stop

3516
02:42:46,240 --> 02:42:49,000
Speaker 4: doing the door we came here to do, which is

3517
02:42:49,440 --> 02:42:50,800
Speaker 4: this is a Jersey Jersey.

3518
02:42:50,920 --> 02:42:53,960
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, they'll be doing donuts and crazy.

3519
02:42:54,440 --> 02:42:57,240
Speaker 4: But I'm sorry, but but the h one hummer you

3520
02:42:57,320 --> 02:42:59,400
Speaker 4: go to, you go to an area where it's designated

3521
02:42:59,440 --> 02:43:00,039
Speaker 4: it you could get.

3522
02:43:00,040 --> 02:43:02,200
Speaker 1: You could do you could do that. Yes, I'm going

3523
02:43:02,240 --> 02:43:05,320
Speaker 1: back to a round here. Question you got something?

3524
02:43:06,400 --> 02:43:09,119
Speaker 2: Because so now I want to I want to keep

3525
02:43:09,200 --> 02:43:12,800
Speaker 2: going back to girls basketball because my plays basketball. But

3526
02:43:14,320 --> 02:43:19,080
Speaker 2: let's say the the Ron artist Animal that you was

3527
02:43:19,200 --> 02:43:20,959
Speaker 2: back then, you mentioned you got two.

3528
02:43:20,920 --> 02:43:21,960
Speaker 5: Girls that played like you.

3529
02:43:22,640 --> 02:43:25,039
Speaker 2: How do you how you developed them as young women

3530
02:43:25,240 --> 02:43:26,520
Speaker 2: in this business alone?

3531
02:43:26,560 --> 02:43:26,840
Speaker 11: The game?

3532
02:43:27,040 --> 02:43:30,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's all about no contingencies and no compromise,

3533
02:43:30,600 --> 02:43:32,840
Speaker 4: right when it comes with are you dealing with women

3534
02:43:33,080 --> 02:43:38,160
Speaker 4: where men you're coaching women? And then also I think empowerment.

3535
02:43:38,520 --> 02:43:41,640
Speaker 4: And then it's also like, okay, how many times we've

3536
02:43:41,640 --> 02:43:45,160
Speaker 4: been not how entourage is all guys, right, I mean,

3537
02:43:45,440 --> 02:43:47,760
Speaker 4: how many time you've seen rabbits the entourage old guys?

3538
02:43:47,760 --> 02:43:49,640
Speaker 4: So like, what if you added women to your entourage?

3539
02:43:50,680 --> 02:43:53,280
Speaker 4: I think it'd be better. But you're talking about on

3540
02:43:53,400 --> 02:43:55,439
Speaker 4: a business from a business perspective.

3541
02:43:55,080 --> 02:43:56,480
Speaker 11: I was going to say, you have to say, as

3542
02:43:56,480 --> 02:43:58,039
Speaker 11: a business business.

3543
02:44:00,760 --> 02:44:04,280
Speaker 4: Well, whoever is the principle of that movement? You know

3544
02:44:04,280 --> 02:44:07,240
Speaker 4: what I mean? And then it's what whoever gets invited

3545
02:44:07,400 --> 02:44:10,760
Speaker 4: is invited. But I'm saying, like, you should be inviting women.

3546
02:44:11,520 --> 02:44:13,199
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying, you should be You should

3547
02:44:13,240 --> 02:44:14,040
Speaker 4: be inviting women.

3548
02:44:14,480 --> 02:44:16,160
Speaker 2: How do you feel about them in their skill set?

3549
02:44:16,200 --> 02:44:19,800
Speaker 2: Where at this point now that they're duncan this is great.

3550
02:44:19,840 --> 02:44:23,920
Speaker 4: I mean, you look at Toby from Duke and people.

3551
02:44:24,120 --> 02:44:26,800
Speaker 4: You gotta watch the girl. She's dunking backwards. She's dunking backwards.

3552
02:44:26,879 --> 02:44:28,400
Speaker 4: It's going to take a little time, but it's going

3553
02:44:28,440 --> 02:44:30,640
Speaker 4: to get there. And there's a couple of girls dunking

3554
02:44:30,720 --> 02:44:33,320
Speaker 4: right now. And the women's game is good. You know,

3555
02:44:35,240 --> 02:44:37,840
Speaker 4: the only two pivots you have is in a women's game,

3556
02:44:37,879 --> 02:44:39,680
Speaker 4: you don't have two pivots in the men's game. You

3557
02:44:39,800 --> 02:44:43,000
Speaker 4: only got one pivot. So if you see guys doing

3558
02:44:43,040 --> 02:44:46,200
Speaker 4: what we normally don't see. You know, you have a

3559
02:44:46,240 --> 02:44:49,520
Speaker 4: reason to be upset. Hopefully like Brunston is not doing that.

3560
02:44:50,440 --> 02:44:52,120
Speaker 4: But I don't want to go too deep into that.

3561
02:44:52,320 --> 02:44:54,200
Speaker 4: But the women's game, it's allowed. That's the only thing

3562
02:44:54,240 --> 02:44:57,160
Speaker 4: you'll see different is sometimes it's two pivots.

3563
02:44:57,440 --> 02:45:00,160
Speaker 2: Okay, people don't understand that, but that would mean like

3564
02:45:01,240 --> 02:45:03,240
Speaker 2: travel coming under the basket.

3565
02:45:03,400 --> 02:45:05,240
Speaker 4: That's it. Yeah, I show you can't show you real quick.

3566
02:45:05,360 --> 02:45:06,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's not.

3567
02:45:09,120 --> 02:45:14,000
Speaker 4: You see a guy Heath fake, that's okay, dribble Heath

3568
02:45:14,080 --> 02:45:15,840
Speaker 4: fake and when you pick up you can't do that.

3569
02:45:16,800 --> 02:45:18,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's a major issue.

3570
02:45:19,360 --> 02:45:20,960
Speaker 4: You can do that in jail, you can't do that

3571
02:45:21,000 --> 02:45:24,640
Speaker 4: as you can, but in the women's game you could,

3572
02:45:24,720 --> 02:45:26,400
Speaker 4: And then you could take that step. And I've been

3573
02:45:26,440 --> 02:45:27,920
Speaker 4: going division to women's basketball.

3574
02:45:28,560 --> 02:45:31,199
Speaker 1: You can do it. You can take this step Division.

3575
02:45:30,879 --> 02:45:32,760
Speaker 4: One to allow it to a woman's not a men's game.

3576
02:45:32,879 --> 02:45:37,920
Speaker 4: It's not allowed, so hopefully, but it's entertaining. But on

3577
02:45:38,000 --> 02:45:39,440
Speaker 4: the flip side, now you open it up for co

3578
02:45:39,600 --> 02:45:42,880
Speaker 4: ed basketball. I mean, these executives are taking high level Honestly,

3579
02:45:42,959 --> 02:45:44,800
Speaker 4: I'm not in the room basketball.

3580
02:45:44,959 --> 02:45:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying basketball teams, club teams. There's co ed.

3581
02:45:49,400 --> 02:45:52,879
Speaker 4: Basketball right now. And what I'm saying is it'll be dope.

3582
02:45:52,720 --> 02:45:55,520
Speaker 2: To see not to be dope when I sent my

3583
02:45:55,640 --> 02:45:59,920
Speaker 2: pro But there's right she could play and go about

3584
02:46:00,040 --> 02:46:01,199
Speaker 2: do you think she think about?

3585
02:46:01,280 --> 02:46:02,039
Speaker 4: What do you think about her?

3586
02:46:02,280 --> 02:46:04,440
Speaker 1: What do you think about her? Hysical aspect that they did?

3587
02:46:04,640 --> 02:46:06,360
Speaker 1: Keep saying that they're doing it because she's white.

3588
02:46:06,920 --> 02:46:09,640
Speaker 4: I ain't think anything about all that because she's nice. Like,

3589
02:46:09,800 --> 02:46:12,360
Speaker 4: it's not that I like it. It's not that I'm

3590
02:46:12,520 --> 02:46:14,720
Speaker 4: cuning and I'm I'm.

3591
02:46:14,600 --> 02:46:18,400
Speaker 1: Excited for this white girl right more than this black girl.

3592
02:46:18,720 --> 02:46:24,840
Speaker 4: That's definitely not it. She's nice, she's not so. But

3593
02:46:24,959 --> 02:46:27,560
Speaker 4: I think what's happening is the media has gottentioned on her.

3594
02:46:27,640 --> 02:46:30,680
Speaker 4: But sometimes you got to show what Asia did and

3595
02:46:30,760 --> 02:46:32,879
Speaker 4: what Kaitlyn did, you should show it at the same time.

3596
02:46:33,200 --> 02:46:36,280
Speaker 4: Asia's next level, like Kayla is not ready. She's not

3597
02:46:36,360 --> 02:46:39,800
Speaker 4: at that level, but she's showing you a different perspective.

3598
02:46:39,840 --> 02:46:41,600
Speaker 4: She's showing you like, ooh, but.

3599
02:46:41,800 --> 02:46:42,520
Speaker 11: This girl's nice.

3600
02:46:42,640 --> 02:46:45,400
Speaker 2: The difference with Asia is that since she won the chip,

3601
02:46:45,560 --> 02:46:48,640
Speaker 2: she won the national like like Kaitlyn never did that,

3602
02:46:49,000 --> 02:46:50,520
Speaker 2: even though she had all the hype and broke all

3603
02:46:50,520 --> 02:46:53,320
Speaker 2: the records right right right, Asia walked in as a champ.

3604
02:46:53,840 --> 02:46:55,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I hear the story. I don't get too

3605
02:46:55,720 --> 02:46:57,640
Speaker 4: much involved in those type of stories. I definitely see him,

3606
02:46:57,840 --> 02:47:01,200
Speaker 4: acknowledge that I see him. I definitely see him. But

3607
02:47:01,320 --> 02:47:03,560
Speaker 4: I think, like you know, I think Kaylen Clark is

3608
02:47:03,600 --> 02:47:06,680
Speaker 4: the real deal. Like she when Kobe was like Jordan,

3609
02:47:06,840 --> 02:47:10,040
Speaker 4: that's what That's what brought us into Kobe because he

3610
02:47:10,080 --> 02:47:12,680
Speaker 4: felt like Jordan. Kaylyn felt like Steph right is like

3611
02:47:12,720 --> 02:47:17,600
Speaker 4: Stephan is leaving so ooh so now you right, everybody

3612
02:47:17,640 --> 02:47:20,440
Speaker 4: want to be like Mike. So now guys want to

3613
02:47:20,480 --> 02:47:23,200
Speaker 4: be like Kayla. She's that deal, you know.

3614
02:47:23,320 --> 02:47:27,520
Speaker 2: Before Kaitlyn, the comparison was U Sabrina. I on that

3615
02:47:27,600 --> 02:47:30,920
Speaker 2: school with Steph and they did the three on three competition?

3616
02:47:32,400 --> 02:47:33,840
Speaker 1: Did you ever do it? You never did it three

3617
02:47:33,879 --> 02:47:35,760
Speaker 1: on You never did a three point shoot out. I never.

3618
02:47:35,879 --> 02:47:37,640
Speaker 4: I wish I would if everybody wants to, if you can,

3619
02:47:37,760 --> 02:47:38,920
Speaker 4: if you want to do it, but I.

3620
02:47:39,000 --> 02:47:39,400
Speaker 1: Never made it.

3621
02:47:39,480 --> 02:47:41,039
Speaker 11: Never got invited to do the dunk competition.

3622
02:47:41,080 --> 02:47:43,119
Speaker 4: A lot of those other girls. I never got invited.

3623
02:47:43,160 --> 02:47:45,280
Speaker 4: Now you tried, like sometimes you'll be an athlete. Now

3624
02:47:45,320 --> 02:47:47,760
Speaker 4: imagine like we trained in the summer, we think about

3625
02:47:47,840 --> 02:47:51,200
Speaker 4: dunk contests because not only me, there's a lot of people. Hey,

3626
02:47:51,200 --> 02:47:53,000
Speaker 4: I would love to, but now I'm not getting picked.

3627
02:47:53,000 --> 02:47:55,760
Speaker 4: I didn't do nothing in the game. You'll try early

3628
02:47:55,840 --> 02:48:01,040
Speaker 4: in November, just try to get off. But December, you

3629
02:48:01,120 --> 02:48:01,800
Speaker 4: ain't doing nothing.

3630
02:48:01,840 --> 02:48:04,520
Speaker 1: You ain't doing nothing over the rim.

3631
02:48:05,440 --> 02:48:07,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, there's a lot of athletes that probably December

3632
02:48:07,440 --> 02:48:09,640
Speaker 4: starts to think about just let's get buckets.

3633
02:48:10,800 --> 02:48:14,199
Speaker 1: Yeah is it two you you run the record park

3634
02:48:15,440 --> 02:48:16,960
Speaker 1: and you bring the trophies to the hood.

3635
02:48:17,600 --> 02:48:19,880
Speaker 4: Oh, definitely, definitely.

3636
02:48:19,920 --> 02:48:20,520
Speaker 1: What was that like?

3637
02:48:21,520 --> 02:48:25,680
Speaker 4: That was incredible? Yeah. So I played with Mousie, I

3638
02:48:25,720 --> 02:48:27,760
Speaker 4: played Fat Joe, I play with Diddy as I got

3639
02:48:27,840 --> 02:48:31,760
Speaker 4: two championships for Diddy and I got one for Fat Joe,

3640
02:48:32,440 --> 02:48:34,720
Speaker 4: two for Fat Joe. I can't remember, but I played

3641
02:48:34,760 --> 02:48:38,119
Speaker 4: so so I'm coming from the hood. Now I'm seeing

3642
02:48:38,120 --> 02:48:39,960
Speaker 4: Diddy all time, you know what I mean, because he

3643
02:48:40,040 --> 02:48:42,000
Speaker 4: paid us to play it. You know what I mean?

3644
02:48:42,240 --> 02:48:45,680
Speaker 4: Going there he said, did he say, yo, y'all win?

3645
02:48:46,800 --> 02:48:50,480
Speaker 4: You know we can buy everybody rote Alexes? I said, yo,

3646
02:48:53,520 --> 02:48:55,840
Speaker 4: So check out. At that moment in time, I'm at

3647
02:48:55,879 --> 02:48:59,600
Speaker 4: Saint John's right, So I say, n c AA, you're

3648
02:48:59,640 --> 02:49:01,800
Speaker 4: not allowed to play in two tournaments. I can't play

3649
02:49:01,840 --> 02:49:06,240
Speaker 4: in Rutger in Nike Pro City. So Reggie from NAS Block,

3650
02:49:06,560 --> 02:49:10,000
Speaker 4: he's underlooked, honestly. But Reggie Jesse we got drafted, went

3651
02:49:10,080 --> 02:49:12,520
Speaker 4: Saint John's the same year. Reggie is from NAS Block.

3652
02:49:12,879 --> 02:49:18,240
Speaker 4: Reggie was All City from queens Bridge right now, he's

3653
02:49:18,240 --> 02:49:20,920
Speaker 4: from All City and he averaged forty. I never averaged forty.

3654
02:49:21,520 --> 02:49:23,320
Speaker 4: Reggie was. He went to Saint John's together. But then

3655
02:49:23,360 --> 02:49:26,680
Speaker 4: I was out shouted. Reggie's unstuffish player. He's always passing

3656
02:49:26,760 --> 02:49:29,280
Speaker 4: me the ball, you know what I mean. He's always

3657
02:49:29,280 --> 02:49:31,480
Speaker 4: passed me the ball. So I forgot how I got there.

3658
02:49:31,720 --> 02:49:35,599
Speaker 5: But I'm asking because you brought the trophies.

3659
02:49:35,840 --> 02:49:38,640
Speaker 4: All right. So then Reggie played in Nike Pro City,

3660
02:49:39,240 --> 02:49:43,000
Speaker 4: and I played in Rutger, and then lou Gans and

3661
02:49:43,320 --> 02:49:47,000
Speaker 4: ravens Wood Queensbridge. They brought home the Nike Pro City Championship.

3662
02:49:47,200 --> 02:49:51,400
Speaker 4: Troy Battle Battles, Yeah, my god, Troy Battle, God damn

3663
02:49:52,680 --> 02:49:56,880
Speaker 4: Troy Battle was on that team. Yes, because Troy is

3664
02:49:56,879 --> 02:49:57,520
Speaker 4: a great baller.

3665
02:49:58,720 --> 02:49:59,360
Speaker 1: So I'll played with you.

3666
02:49:59,480 --> 02:50:02,280
Speaker 4: So we got and then so I won. I'm a

3667
02:50:02,320 --> 02:50:04,280
Speaker 4: part of the Nike Pro City, but I couldn't play

3668
02:50:04,360 --> 02:50:05,280
Speaker 4: legally with Saint John's.

3669
02:50:06,200 --> 02:50:07,039
Speaker 1: But I was on that team.

3670
02:50:08,240 --> 02:50:08,800
Speaker 4: That's my team.

3671
02:50:08,879 --> 02:50:11,040
Speaker 1: But I went I went to playing the rutgerd with

3672
02:50:11,200 --> 02:50:13,040
Speaker 1: Fat Joe, I mean with Diddy. I think he ever

3673
02:50:13,160 --> 02:50:16,040
Speaker 1: did he? Yeah, it made you want to bring the trophies.

3674
02:50:16,440 --> 02:50:19,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, And it was just a Rutger championship in Queensland.

3675
02:50:19,920 --> 02:50:23,200
Speaker 4: That's legendary, like you know what I mean, because you

3676
02:50:23,280 --> 02:50:28,120
Speaker 4: know what everybody can hear, you know that. So everybody,

3677
02:50:28,360 --> 02:50:30,360
Speaker 4: Oh they so follow a hundred thousand records.

3678
02:50:30,440 --> 02:50:31,000
Speaker 1: That's really cool.

3679
02:50:31,040 --> 02:50:33,640
Speaker 4: Okay, now it's gonna sell ten member that's really cool. Oh,

3680
02:50:33,760 --> 02:50:36,040
Speaker 4: Vernon Fleming's pro and so this is the way he

3681
02:50:36,080 --> 02:50:38,240
Speaker 4: was talking about queens It was just fun one moment

3682
02:50:38,280 --> 02:50:41,400
Speaker 4: and it'd be bad. But it's walking into Hollywood every day.

3683
02:50:42,120 --> 02:50:43,000
Speaker 4: It's a different field.

3684
02:50:43,080 --> 02:50:46,720
Speaker 1: So the trophy, the trophy.

3685
02:50:46,879 --> 02:50:49,520
Speaker 4: Then we bring the trophy back. Sorry, then bring the

3686
02:50:49,560 --> 02:50:53,440
Speaker 4: trophy back. And it was just people were excited and

3687
02:50:53,520 --> 02:50:58,720
Speaker 4: it was proud. Like Kenny Itto super Bade super came

3688
02:50:58,800 --> 02:51:03,760
Speaker 4: my first game too. Super was really good player, great player.

3689
02:51:03,920 --> 02:51:04,000
Speaker 1: And.

3690
02:51:05,720 --> 02:51:06,800
Speaker 5: Pick up super Ad well.

3691
02:51:06,959 --> 02:51:11,200
Speaker 4: I love Superad so so so because I.

3692
02:51:11,280 --> 02:51:15,520
Speaker 1: Remember me hearing that and like that ship boosted the

3693
02:51:15,600 --> 02:51:17,080
Speaker 1: morale of the neighborhood.

3694
02:51:17,160 --> 02:51:18,280
Speaker 5: Yes, like ship.

3695
02:51:18,320 --> 02:51:20,000
Speaker 1: For lack of a better than her for New Yorker,

3696
02:51:20,560 --> 02:51:24,280
Speaker 1: Rukle Park trophy is like a fucking it's like an

3697
02:51:24,360 --> 02:51:26,800
Speaker 1: NBA trophy. It's kind of like no, and I don't

3698
02:51:26,840 --> 02:51:30,200
Speaker 1: think no one like saw an actual rucker. Probably not.

3699
02:51:30,480 --> 02:51:31,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, was that?

3700
02:51:31,520 --> 02:51:33,880
Speaker 1: Was that the first time you're doing that? I brought

3701
02:51:33,879 --> 02:51:34,119
Speaker 1: a lot.

3702
02:51:34,200 --> 02:51:36,400
Speaker 4: I buried my Player of the Year in New York

3703
02:51:36,440 --> 02:51:40,880
Speaker 4: City with Shakisha and Mike was best friends. She was

3704
02:51:40,920 --> 02:51:43,240
Speaker 4: a dope baller and she had a heart attack on

3705
02:51:43,600 --> 02:51:45,000
Speaker 4: heart attack on recents the floor.

3706
02:51:45,200 --> 02:51:45,840
Speaker 11: But it's crazy.

3707
02:51:46,120 --> 02:51:47,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was a baller.

3708
02:51:47,280 --> 02:51:47,440
Speaker 2: She was.

3709
02:51:48,320 --> 02:51:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't remember her, but I remember the incident. Yeah, yeah,

3710
02:51:51,400 --> 02:51:53,000
Speaker 1: you heard about the incident. Incident.

3711
02:51:53,080 --> 02:51:54,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. So we were the best players in the

3712
02:51:54,959 --> 02:51:57,039
Speaker 4: same age and we was we was the best place

3713
02:51:57,120 --> 02:51:58,200
Speaker 4: in her She also dated Mike.

3714
02:51:59,400 --> 02:52:02,000
Speaker 1: She was She's a pretty good, pretty young lady.

3715
02:52:02,280 --> 02:52:03,760
Speaker 4: At that time, and I look up, so I gave

3716
02:52:03,879 --> 02:52:06,880
Speaker 4: her by nineteen ninety seven high school Player of the

3717
02:52:06,959 --> 02:52:09,880
Speaker 4: Year is her? You know what I mean?

3718
02:52:10,600 --> 02:52:11,840
Speaker 11: Noah, that's dopep.

3719
02:52:12,680 --> 02:52:14,080
Speaker 4: So I brought a couple other ones.

3720
02:52:14,440 --> 02:52:17,880
Speaker 1: Did you did you bring the championship trophy to the hood.

3721
02:52:18,560 --> 02:52:21,240
Speaker 4: I don't get that ring. Oh wow, And I gave

3722
02:52:21,280 --> 02:52:23,480
Speaker 4: all the money away to mental health institutions but didn't

3723
02:52:23,560 --> 02:52:25,560
Speaker 4: like the champion I think the Lakers might have brought

3724
02:52:25,600 --> 02:52:27,520
Speaker 4: it now, but you know how Lakers don't printed. But

3725
02:52:27,560 --> 02:52:31,080
Speaker 4: the Queen Fers gave me something. They just do something else.

3726
02:52:31,120 --> 02:52:34,040
Speaker 4: Some paper put it in this frame. I still haven't wow.

3727
02:52:34,280 --> 02:52:36,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, but yeah it was. But I did bring

3728
02:52:36,680 --> 02:52:38,480
Speaker 4: a championship. I ain't bring the actual trophy.

3729
02:52:38,800 --> 02:52:39,039
Speaker 1: Wow.

3730
02:52:39,400 --> 02:52:42,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, but man, what a proud time.

3731
02:52:43,040 --> 02:52:44,600
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, money.

3732
02:52:45,959 --> 02:52:48,280
Speaker 4: And sure for sure.

3733
02:52:49,280 --> 02:52:51,160
Speaker 1: And there's anything else you want to them? Yeah, I mean,

3734
02:52:51,200 --> 02:52:53,600
Speaker 1: I mean you know this is no regular like I

3735
02:52:53,680 --> 02:52:57,120
Speaker 1: head up everybody know, like I haven't been doing a

3736
02:52:57,160 --> 02:52:57,600
Speaker 1: lot of content.

3737
02:52:57,640 --> 02:52:59,160
Speaker 4: I'm starting to do this type of stuff. I love

3738
02:52:59,200 --> 02:53:01,440
Speaker 4: to talk about this. But when I saw that that

3739
02:53:01,800 --> 02:53:05,200
Speaker 4: that that post by early Alesia, I thought that was

3740
02:53:05,200 --> 02:53:07,840
Speaker 4: an opportunity for me to say why, because I think

3741
02:53:08,000 --> 02:53:10,640
Speaker 4: people need to hear you why, you know what I mean,

3742
02:53:10,720 --> 02:53:13,760
Speaker 4: and then and then you need to know your why.

3743
02:53:14,560 --> 02:53:16,320
Speaker 4: So then I thought it was an opportunity. So anyway,

3744
02:53:16,600 --> 02:53:24,360
Speaker 4: we here, Yeah, drink checks a little drink hell, yeah, and.

3745
02:53:24,440 --> 02:53:30,600
Speaker 5: You got everything. Question, I know what the companies man?

3746
02:53:30,760 --> 02:53:32,920
Speaker 4: Well, okay, let me let me let me perspective now

3747
02:53:32,959 --> 02:53:35,120
Speaker 4: that the company is great, and I don't want to

3748
02:53:35,160 --> 02:53:36,920
Speaker 4: talk about like people ask me how much you got?

3749
02:53:38,200 --> 02:53:38,600
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

3750
02:53:38,680 --> 02:53:39,440
Speaker 4: Like who cares about that?

3751
02:53:40,160 --> 02:53:40,520
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

3752
02:53:40,600 --> 02:53:42,920
Speaker 4: Everybody, anybody out there? Somebody asked me how much?

3753
02:53:43,000 --> 02:53:45,840
Speaker 1: I won't Why do you need to know? Right?

3754
02:53:46,000 --> 02:53:48,520
Speaker 4: Like so and a lot of people, that's too much information,

3755
02:53:48,720 --> 02:53:52,080
Speaker 4: too much, you know what I mean? Because you're asking

3756
02:53:52,120 --> 02:53:55,640
Speaker 4: a guy now when the salaries are being exposed, not

3757
02:53:55,760 --> 02:53:58,520
Speaker 4: everybody know what you got, so like you already know

3758
02:53:58,560 --> 02:54:00,440
Speaker 4: what people got, you know what I mean? So anyway,

3759
02:54:00,480 --> 02:54:02,280
Speaker 4: I say that because it would be great if athletes

3760
02:54:02,280 --> 02:54:07,080
Speaker 4: can sign contracts nothing be exposed, because sometimes it carry

3761
02:54:07,120 --> 02:54:10,400
Speaker 4: brings a lot. But I wanted to say it was

3762
02:54:10,440 --> 02:54:11,600
Speaker 4: something I wanted to say. Oh yeah, I got a

3763
02:54:11,640 --> 02:54:14,280
Speaker 4: question for you. I had this quesure for you off camera,

3764
02:54:14,320 --> 02:54:18,400
Speaker 4: off camera. Is it true?

3765
02:54:18,760 --> 02:54:18,960
Speaker 8: You know?

3766
02:54:19,080 --> 02:54:21,000
Speaker 4: Hostage hostage media?

3767
02:54:23,080 --> 02:54:23,840
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know.

3768
02:54:24,000 --> 02:54:25,800
Speaker 4: You know what, We'll just whatever you want to do

3769
02:54:25,840 --> 02:54:27,000
Speaker 4: with this content, honestly.

3770
02:54:27,280 --> 02:54:29,480
Speaker 11: Okay, so you know his friends, I don't know.

3771
02:54:29,600 --> 02:54:31,760
Speaker 4: I don't know okay, So anyway, I was gonna asking

3772
02:54:31,800 --> 02:54:36,800
Speaker 4: this question, but so so we had metaphorically speaking twenty twelve,

3773
02:54:36,840 --> 02:54:38,320
Speaker 4: any of you called in two thousand and eight. So

3774
02:54:38,400 --> 02:54:41,800
Speaker 4: I was the first athlete doing podcast. Nobody, nobody was

3775
02:54:41,840 --> 02:54:44,280
Speaker 4: doing it, So I did I had something similar?

3776
02:54:44,600 --> 02:54:45,560
Speaker 1: Was it just a sports show?

3777
02:54:45,760 --> 02:54:49,200
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, okay, and so the

3778
02:54:49,200 --> 02:54:51,920
Speaker 4: sports show, yeah, yeah, I bought all the cameras and

3779
02:54:52,000 --> 02:54:56,280
Speaker 4: then hostage and oh shit, Noordy kme bye and then

3780
02:54:57,000 --> 02:55:00,480
Speaker 4: but nothing was propping. I mean, nothing was happening in

3781
02:55:00,560 --> 02:55:04,560
Speaker 4: this space at that time. But for me at that time,

3782
02:55:05,360 --> 02:55:08,360
Speaker 4: you know, like when you're rapping with the cruise in

3783
02:55:08,400 --> 02:55:10,600
Speaker 4: your neighborhood, you all can't be doing the same thing.

3784
02:55:11,160 --> 02:55:12,560
Speaker 4: So at that point in time, we were doing the

3785
02:55:12,560 --> 02:55:14,720
Speaker 4: same thing and everything that we were doing. But I

3786
02:55:14,760 --> 02:55:17,800
Speaker 4: felt like, you know, I turned down a lot of

3787
02:55:17,840 --> 02:55:19,920
Speaker 4: opportunities to do podcasts. I didn't going to say that

3788
02:55:20,240 --> 02:55:22,480
Speaker 4: because I see it and I'm like, wow, you're in

3789
02:55:22,560 --> 02:55:26,920
Speaker 4: this podcast position as a boss and I'm watching this

3790
02:55:26,959 --> 02:55:28,080
Speaker 4: ship I never would have respected.

3791
02:55:28,360 --> 02:55:32,840
Speaker 1: But why why because you were doing something It wasn't

3792
02:55:32,879 --> 02:55:35,840
Speaker 1: a podcast, but you were doing like wasn't it Like

3793
02:55:36,000 --> 02:55:40,600
Speaker 1: it wasn't what label what I was doing when you when.

3794
02:55:40,720 --> 02:55:42,960
Speaker 4: Like this is like when you first retired, right, well,

3795
02:55:43,000 --> 02:55:46,320
Speaker 4: when I first retired, I always was doing something because

3796
02:55:46,920 --> 02:55:48,600
Speaker 4: but I was. I was doing the podcast, I was

3797
02:55:48,680 --> 02:55:53,440
Speaker 4: doing entertainment, but I wasn't really pursuing it. I was like,

3798
02:55:53,720 --> 02:55:55,760
Speaker 4: I mean, I wasn't really serious. But see I was

3799
02:55:55,800 --> 02:55:57,320
Speaker 4: having fun. I was having fun for sure. I was

3800
02:55:57,360 --> 02:55:59,680
Speaker 4: having fun, and I also didn't I was telling people, hey,

3801
02:55:59,720 --> 02:56:01,880
Speaker 4: you want make some bread? I think we could do

3802
02:56:01,959 --> 02:56:04,480
Speaker 4: this podcast, but it wasn't something hour interested in. It's

3803
02:56:04,520 --> 02:56:08,199
Speaker 4: like you gotta go pull your way. But it's all literacy,

3804
02:56:08,760 --> 02:56:13,240
Speaker 4: it's all a learning and everybody, I mean, look at

3805
02:56:13,240 --> 02:56:14,959
Speaker 4: that twenty two years old peoples in college. At twenty

3806
02:56:15,000 --> 02:56:17,080
Speaker 4: five years old people in college. How many people in

3807
02:56:17,120 --> 02:56:20,000
Speaker 4: our entourage is in college? So it doesn't even matter. Okay,

3808
02:56:20,000 --> 02:56:22,200
Speaker 4: we'll get to college from from Norrie if you really

3809
02:56:22,240 --> 02:56:23,039
Speaker 4: pay attention.

3810
02:56:24,720 --> 02:56:31,440
Speaker 1: You know on the podcast problem, Like, uh, Warren Sapple

3811
02:56:31,560 --> 02:56:35,000
Speaker 1: is my friend, right well, I love Warren and and

3812
02:56:35,320 --> 02:56:37,480
Speaker 1: I've never seen him so happy when he started your

3813
02:56:37,520 --> 02:56:38,600
Speaker 1: coach right again?

3814
02:56:40,000 --> 02:56:41,440
Speaker 5: Yes, yes we won't have the foot player.

3815
02:56:41,480 --> 02:56:44,880
Speaker 1: He loves marine yeah yeah yah yah huge with sharks

3816
02:56:44,879 --> 02:56:47,120
Speaker 1: and all that, but like you know what I'm saying,

3817
02:56:47,440 --> 02:56:51,720
Speaker 1: I don't need him. I've seen him and since like

3818
02:56:51,920 --> 02:56:55,200
Speaker 1: I've seen him work for Colorado, like him coaching like

3819
02:56:55,480 --> 02:56:58,680
Speaker 1: fulfills his thrill? Is that the same with you? Like

3820
02:56:58,840 --> 02:57:01,880
Speaker 1: like because let's let's admit, like even with me, like

3821
02:57:01,920 --> 02:57:04,680
Speaker 1: with hip hop, like when I got yeah.

3822
02:57:11,720 --> 02:57:13,879
Speaker 4: That's my guy, if he said, yo, matter you.

3823
02:57:13,959 --> 02:57:17,240
Speaker 1: Out like you No, no, no, We're never gonna say

3824
02:57:17,240 --> 02:57:20,120
Speaker 1: that listen. So like so, like I said, like even

3825
02:57:20,200 --> 02:57:22,560
Speaker 1: for me, like when I when I figured I wanted

3826
02:57:22,560 --> 02:57:27,480
Speaker 1: to start media podcast, is the perfect thrill for me.

3827
02:57:28,360 --> 02:57:30,600
Speaker 1: So and then when I look at like I said,

3828
02:57:30,600 --> 02:57:34,199
Speaker 1: I look at Warren, Warren, like when he took over Colorado.

3829
02:57:34,280 --> 02:57:36,320
Speaker 1: Like I don't say take over because you know somebody

3830
02:57:36,320 --> 02:57:38,879
Speaker 1: would coote me on it. But you know he became

3831
02:57:38,959 --> 02:57:42,160
Speaker 1: a coacher on Colorado. Well it was my man named

3832
02:57:42,560 --> 02:57:46,440
Speaker 1: Dion said it fulfilled something for him. Is that just

3833
02:57:46,640 --> 02:57:50,279
Speaker 1: like like we're coaching with the girls. I love coaching.

3834
02:57:51,400 --> 02:57:54,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't fulfill that that need to like still be

3835
02:57:54,160 --> 02:57:54,520
Speaker 1: in the game.

3836
02:57:54,680 --> 02:57:55,520
Speaker 5: Listen, I'll still play.

3837
02:57:55,600 --> 02:57:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm glad.

3838
02:57:57,240 --> 02:58:00,480
Speaker 4: Have I spoken to you about sports before business? I

3839
02:58:00,560 --> 02:58:02,760
Speaker 4: have been I said, I said, you can help me

3840
02:58:02,800 --> 02:58:03,720
Speaker 4: get a head coaching job.

3841
02:58:04,600 --> 02:58:05,000
Speaker 1: I said you that.

3842
02:58:05,120 --> 02:58:06,199
Speaker 5: Okay, let's not talk.

3843
02:58:06,080 --> 02:58:08,440
Speaker 1: About that, Okay, all right, yeah cool, cool.

3844
02:58:08,560 --> 02:58:11,040
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is in sports, just to bring

3845
02:58:11,120 --> 02:58:11,480
Speaker 4: him back.

3846
02:58:11,879 --> 02:58:15,240
Speaker 1: Like what I'm asking is like, does the coaching like

3847
02:58:15,320 --> 02:58:15,760
Speaker 1: fulfill you?

3848
02:58:15,840 --> 02:58:17,600
Speaker 5: Because that's it's the same.

3849
02:58:18,280 --> 02:58:20,280
Speaker 4: I just wanted to That's why I said that.

3850
02:58:20,400 --> 02:58:21,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, okay, I love coaching.

3851
02:58:21,959 --> 02:58:25,760
Speaker 4: Wow, Vince Smith, I will hire Kevin Jackson, Kevin jack

3852
02:58:26,240 --> 02:58:30,080
Speaker 4: hold On Artie, Yes, I will hire Hardy cons Would

3853
02:58:30,120 --> 02:58:31,800
Speaker 4: you be happy if I hire Kevin Jackson?

3854
02:58:31,840 --> 02:58:34,279
Speaker 1: I was okay? Coaching, oh yeah, and business.

3855
02:58:34,120 --> 02:58:35,640
Speaker 4: All so good.

3856
02:58:35,720 --> 02:58:36,520
Speaker 1: They can't stop us.

3857
02:58:37,040 --> 02:58:39,000
Speaker 4: I'm telling you so now I got your I got

3858
02:58:39,200 --> 02:58:42,360
Speaker 4: so no, all right, so I'm gonna be a head coach.

3859
02:58:42,440 --> 02:58:46,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna win a championship and I have so you know,

3860
02:58:46,080 --> 02:58:48,400
Speaker 4: you give me a head coach and jog right, We're

3861
02:58:48,400 --> 02:58:49,439
Speaker 4: gonna win championship.

3862
02:58:50,840 --> 02:58:52,200
Speaker 1: That's dope. Check it out.

3863
02:58:52,560 --> 02:58:54,520
Speaker 4: This is great and hopefully this is not too much content.

3864
02:58:55,080 --> 02:58:58,560
Speaker 4: But this is how I talked to NOORI can I

3865
02:58:58,640 --> 02:59:00,720
Speaker 4: talk about my cause they got a baby with you.

3866
02:59:00,800 --> 02:59:04,480
Speaker 4: That's again, yes, that's crazy.

3867
02:59:05,360 --> 02:59:07,959
Speaker 1: Family Mark, I've seen birthday. But you kept saying.

3868
02:59:07,840 --> 02:59:12,959
Speaker 4: Marchal, Okay, so so this is great because like family.

3869
02:59:12,720 --> 02:59:19,400
Speaker 5: Man is the family man for sure a little we

3870
02:59:19,440 --> 02:59:20,840
Speaker 5: want to make this about you. We want to make

3871
02:59:20,879 --> 02:59:21,280
Speaker 5: this about you.

3872
02:59:21,600 --> 02:59:23,200
Speaker 1: Are you thinking about We got to make it about you.

3873
02:59:23,440 --> 02:59:26,520
Speaker 1: It's good to like it because I'm not doing a podcast.

3874
02:59:26,560 --> 02:59:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, you know why because it's like, like, uh,

3875
02:59:31,600 --> 02:59:32,840
Speaker 1: like rappers, we have this right.

3876
02:59:33,120 --> 02:59:35,040
Speaker 5: So that's that's the reason why a lot of you

3877
02:59:35,120 --> 02:59:35,440
Speaker 5: see my.

3878
02:59:35,520 --> 02:59:39,119
Speaker 1: Older rappers, they all got podcasts now, right, and people

3879
02:59:39,160 --> 02:59:44,279
Speaker 1: are calling the post podcast syndrome, right, post rap syndrome.

3880
02:59:44,360 --> 02:59:48,440
Speaker 5: That's what I meant to say. So, but I'm proud

3881
02:59:48,480 --> 02:59:48,600
Speaker 5: of it.

3882
02:59:48,879 --> 02:59:52,760
Speaker 1: Early. It's an invasion. It's an invasion of it right

3883
02:59:52,800 --> 02:59:56,200
Speaker 1: now because it's so many. It's so many, and it's like,

3884
02:59:56,320 --> 02:59:59,640
Speaker 1: all right, cool, Like I understand this walk life because

3885
03:00:00,080 --> 03:00:03,720
Speaker 1: like we used to the thrills, were used to hearing people. Yeah,

3886
03:00:04,040 --> 03:00:06,680
Speaker 1: and then when you like saying you know what, sometimes

3887
03:00:06,840 --> 03:00:09,440
Speaker 1: you can stay on stage forever, right, but some of

3888
03:00:09,560 --> 03:00:10,199
Speaker 1: us we don't.

3889
03:00:10,000 --> 03:00:10,800
Speaker 5: Have the injuries.

3890
03:00:11,200 --> 03:00:14,160
Speaker 1: But you know, the record play the record playoffs, so

3891
03:00:14,160 --> 03:00:17,640
Speaker 1: you will you will really stay on stage. So this

3892
03:00:17,840 --> 03:00:21,840
Speaker 1: is the new thing for rapers. You think that uh

3893
03:00:22,480 --> 03:00:26,240
Speaker 1: for for for an ex athlete or an ex ball player,

3894
03:00:26,280 --> 03:00:28,280
Speaker 1: you think that that's the best thing to do is

3895
03:00:28,360 --> 03:00:30,240
Speaker 1: to stay in the game like somehow like how you're

3896
03:00:30,280 --> 03:00:33,240
Speaker 1: doing with the coaching is because it's the same like

3897
03:00:33,320 --> 03:00:34,240
Speaker 1: type of thrill or.

3898
03:00:35,000 --> 03:00:36,640
Speaker 4: I think all right, so I man in two parts.

3899
03:00:37,440 --> 03:00:40,040
Speaker 4: Definitely important to build your structure. Once you make some money,

3900
03:00:40,040 --> 03:00:42,240
Speaker 4: you gotta build your infrastructure, you know, so all your

3901
03:00:42,320 --> 03:00:44,720
Speaker 4: documents at LLC's got to be right because you don't

3902
03:00:44,720 --> 03:00:46,840
Speaker 4: want to be spending your principal wait for the interest

3903
03:00:46,879 --> 03:00:48,760
Speaker 4: that I first year you working with your interests. I

3904
03:00:48,840 --> 03:00:51,960
Speaker 4: just want to start there. But then when you get

3905
03:00:52,000 --> 03:00:57,320
Speaker 4: to the basketball piece, you don't have to. But if

3906
03:00:57,360 --> 03:00:59,080
Speaker 4: you love it, that's you. So I love coaching. So

3907
03:00:59,400 --> 03:01:04,200
Speaker 4: for me, I'm associated head coach right and I'm and

3908
03:01:04,240 --> 03:01:07,320
Speaker 4: I'm coaching and I'm also having leisure time like I am.

3909
03:01:08,320 --> 03:01:10,840
Speaker 4: You see I wor So I want to just repeat

3910
03:01:10,879 --> 03:01:15,200
Speaker 4: that I want my guy. But I love coaching, And

3911
03:01:15,280 --> 03:01:17,240
Speaker 4: I think, like why because you want to win the title.

3912
03:01:17,560 --> 03:01:18,920
Speaker 4: It's like why do you why do you rap? Because

3913
03:01:18,959 --> 03:01:21,680
Speaker 4: I want to go platinum, you know, I want to

3914
03:01:21,720 --> 03:01:25,000
Speaker 4: win a championship and I think we can.

3915
03:01:24,959 --> 03:01:30,480
Speaker 1: Do it when you when you guys play, you play

3916
03:01:30,520 --> 03:01:33,360
Speaker 1: in l A. Mainley or California, Right, you.

3917
03:01:33,360 --> 03:01:36,720
Speaker 4: Know Division one, Division two is a little bit different travel. Yes,

3918
03:01:37,280 --> 03:01:39,560
Speaker 4: obviously the budget that Division two is low, you know

3919
03:01:39,600 --> 03:01:41,640
Speaker 4: what I mean. So so we're trying to make division

3920
03:01:41,680 --> 03:01:46,360
Speaker 4: too hot. Division two basketball is already they already have infrastructure, you.

3921
03:01:46,400 --> 03:01:46,840
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

3922
03:01:47,560 --> 03:01:49,800
Speaker 4: So I love coaching Division too. Now the audience is

3923
03:01:49,879 --> 03:01:51,680
Speaker 4: not going to be as big, but for me, it

3924
03:01:51,720 --> 03:01:54,200
Speaker 4: gets me a throw organized, you know.

3925
03:01:54,200 --> 03:01:56,920
Speaker 11: What I mean, Like I'm the goliath when you take them.

3926
03:01:57,160 --> 03:01:59,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then now you're now we're playing against so

3927
03:01:59,640 --> 03:02:01,520
Speaker 4: we're not the greatest team, but I want to but

3928
03:02:01,600 --> 03:02:04,920
Speaker 4: I'll just talk openly. Were like we're beating Division ones, Okay,

3929
03:02:05,640 --> 03:02:09,039
Speaker 4: as you should. Yeah, we're beating Division ones and that's okay.

3930
03:02:09,440 --> 03:02:12,200
Speaker 4: Division ones. That that's okay. But the thing is, like

3931
03:02:12,240 --> 03:02:14,240
Speaker 4: it's a good platform because you can't go to Division two.

3932
03:02:14,360 --> 03:02:17,440
Speaker 4: You can't go to Division one. Throw division two, get

3933
03:02:17,480 --> 03:02:19,959
Speaker 4: your college degree and build your relationships.

3934
03:02:20,360 --> 03:02:23,240
Speaker 2: So what that means is for those that don't understand

3935
03:02:23,720 --> 03:02:25,800
Speaker 2: Division one, you getting the top tier talent.

3936
03:02:25,879 --> 03:02:27,880
Speaker 1: You get like the top five recruits, the top ten

3937
03:02:27,959 --> 03:02:30,840
Speaker 1: recruits of high school in the Nations.

3938
03:02:31,640 --> 03:02:35,520
Speaker 2: For Division two, you're offering scholarships, you're offering academics, and

3939
03:02:35,600 --> 03:02:39,960
Speaker 2: you're offering a ton of play. But some students are

3940
03:02:40,040 --> 03:02:43,600
Speaker 2: players that aren't top five top You could get an

3941
03:02:43,640 --> 03:02:47,880
Speaker 2: academic scholarship where the top. Division one is a free

3942
03:02:48,000 --> 03:02:48,640
Speaker 2: ride all the way.

3943
03:02:49,360 --> 03:02:52,320
Speaker 1: Now Division two, Division three is not a free ride.

3944
03:02:52,640 --> 03:02:56,960
Speaker 4: Division two is a free ride, right, so it's really money. Yeah,

3945
03:02:57,480 --> 03:02:58,360
Speaker 4: so I love it.

3946
03:02:58,560 --> 03:02:59,920
Speaker 1: Are they selling the girls jersey?

3947
03:03:00,560 --> 03:03:02,720
Speaker 4: You're not selling jersey, but the girls are getting degrees

3948
03:03:02,760 --> 03:03:09,640
Speaker 4: the civil engineering, mechanical engineering, or chemical justice. So they

3949
03:03:09,760 --> 03:03:14,840
Speaker 4: getting degrees. No, I don't think it's a different. So

3950
03:03:14,920 --> 03:03:18,720
Speaker 4: it's still division to N I L. We are n

3951
03:03:18,760 --> 03:03:21,640
Speaker 4: I L. It doesn't matter because division one, how much

3952
03:03:21,720 --> 03:03:24,680
Speaker 4: are you all giving because there's no N I L. Right,

3953
03:03:24,959 --> 03:03:28,280
Speaker 4: so there's an opportunity in division two. And now private

3954
03:03:28,320 --> 03:03:31,480
Speaker 4: equities are one. And you see private equities buying into

3955
03:03:31,640 --> 03:03:34,600
Speaker 4: division one. I don't know you see that, but private

3956
03:03:34,600 --> 03:03:38,879
Speaker 4: equities buying into division one the sports team right now.

3957
03:03:39,240 --> 03:03:41,480
Speaker 1: That's why the n ls are so google right, So

3958
03:03:41,560 --> 03:03:42,119
Speaker 1: you could buy.

3959
03:03:42,040 --> 03:03:43,879
Speaker 5: One of these teams in university.

3960
03:03:44,120 --> 03:03:47,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you could actually invest that's crazy. But sec

3961
03:03:47,600 --> 03:03:50,440
Speaker 4: compliancy I am not selling an investment to nobody. Please,

3962
03:03:50,760 --> 03:03:56,880
Speaker 4: I'm not selling yeah like that, Like, but yeah, you

3963
03:03:56,920 --> 03:04:00,200
Speaker 4: can actually invest in on college athletic department. Yes, but

3964
03:04:00,240 --> 03:04:00,920
Speaker 4: that's pretty dope.

3965
03:04:01,000 --> 03:04:04,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, so let me let me ask you that question.

3966
03:04:05,240 --> 03:04:09,440
Speaker 1: Because you he was also McDonald's all American. So that

3967
03:04:09,600 --> 03:04:12,840
Speaker 1: jersey is gonna be. That jersey is going to be,

3968
03:04:13,400 --> 03:04:15,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, especially when you get

3969
03:04:15,640 --> 03:04:17,080
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Because're gonna get to the Hall

3970
03:04:17,080 --> 03:04:17,320
Speaker 1: of Fame.

3971
03:04:20,760 --> 03:04:22,800
Speaker 4: I just want to tell people I didn't want to.

3972
03:04:22,920 --> 03:04:25,440
Speaker 4: I just like to give credit to my people from

3973
03:04:25,480 --> 03:04:27,280
Speaker 4: the streets, right, you want to.

3974
03:04:27,280 --> 03:04:31,120
Speaker 1: Get that fame. But now we see that the college

3975
03:04:31,160 --> 03:04:32,720
Speaker 1: players are getting paid off their jersey.

3976
03:04:33,800 --> 03:04:35,680
Speaker 5: Now you go to the Hall of Fame.

3977
03:04:35,760 --> 03:04:39,800
Speaker 1: Now you get the old American Uh, the McDonald's game, right, yep,

3978
03:04:39,840 --> 03:04:42,480
Speaker 1: the McDonald's game. Now all of these jerseys are gonna

3979
03:04:42,520 --> 03:04:44,880
Speaker 1: come pop back up. You get paid for in the

3980
03:04:44,920 --> 03:04:45,520
Speaker 1: air that ship.

3981
03:04:46,840 --> 03:04:49,920
Speaker 4: Honestly, no, Like if you don't have a contract, the

3982
03:04:50,240 --> 03:04:55,360
Speaker 4: obvious answers no, like wow, and music and sports is

3983
03:04:55,400 --> 03:04:59,480
Speaker 4: the same business, right, So from that perspective, ideally you

3984
03:04:59,560 --> 03:05:02,160
Speaker 4: would be negotiating I p from the front of the

3985
03:05:02,200 --> 03:05:06,440
Speaker 4: jump but yeah, you negotiating the IP, the.

3986
03:05:06,480 --> 03:05:11,200
Speaker 2: Manufacturer, the manufacturers and making the McDonald's jerseys, you'd have

3987
03:05:11,280 --> 03:05:12,280
Speaker 2: to have the son with them.

3988
03:05:12,480 --> 03:05:15,160
Speaker 4: You ain't negotiating IP from the jump, right, Like as

3989
03:05:15,280 --> 03:05:16,199
Speaker 4: a fifteen year old.

3990
03:05:16,080 --> 03:05:17,920
Speaker 1: You try to get. All you want is M D P.

3991
03:05:18,200 --> 03:05:19,959
Speaker 1: No you want for film.

3992
03:05:20,280 --> 03:05:22,840
Speaker 4: So from that perspective, I think like now as NIL

3993
03:05:22,920 --> 03:05:26,279
Speaker 4: is introduced, I think we'll see more of this start

3994
03:05:26,360 --> 03:05:30,480
Speaker 4: a little earlier. It's incredible to see. It's incredible to see.

3995
03:05:30,480 --> 03:05:32,680
Speaker 4: I love sports and entertainment. I feel like it's almost equal,

3996
03:05:33,840 --> 03:05:35,920
Speaker 4: you know. But you asked the question, but I'm no.

3997
03:05:36,120 --> 03:05:39,039
Speaker 1: But that's that's crazy because now these college students are

3998
03:05:39,560 --> 03:05:40,760
Speaker 1: are getting paid off their jersey.

3999
03:05:40,840 --> 03:05:46,879
Speaker 6: Correct, they don't to hold up a drink. I drink

4000
03:05:46,959 --> 03:05:51,439
Speaker 6: this ten million hear everything like they're making.

4001
03:05:52,000 --> 03:05:53,960
Speaker 1: But they still need structure right now.

4002
03:05:54,120 --> 03:05:56,680
Speaker 4: So this is the thing. If you see somebody else crazy,

4003
03:05:57,320 --> 03:05:59,280
Speaker 4: if you saw a playout right, you see you just

4004
03:05:59,320 --> 03:06:02,120
Speaker 4: see a random athlete. You heard about he hot, he

4005
03:06:02,280 --> 03:06:05,600
Speaker 4: making bread as they are, so he making bread? Can

4006
03:06:05,640 --> 03:06:08,520
Speaker 4: you see him out? Is your first reaction to give

4007
03:06:08,600 --> 03:06:11,959
Speaker 4: him some financial literacy as somebody that wanted to give

4008
03:06:11,959 --> 03:06:15,600
Speaker 4: it back. That's in the media business, you know, right,

4009
03:06:16,160 --> 03:06:18,840
Speaker 4: but it's like to assume you got it and you're

4010
03:06:18,879 --> 03:06:21,720
Speaker 4: assuming that everything's okay. But what I found out was

4011
03:06:21,840 --> 03:06:24,120
Speaker 4: everything was not okay. So I'm so excited. It's an

4012
03:06:24,160 --> 03:06:27,640
Speaker 4: opportunity for us to give back because you know, hey,

4013
03:06:27,800 --> 03:06:29,560
Speaker 4: if we come to you and we say, hey, is

4014
03:06:29,600 --> 03:06:31,800
Speaker 4: everything okay, We're not digging in your.

4015
03:06:31,720 --> 03:06:33,680
Speaker 5: Pockets, right, you're not pocket checking.

4016
03:06:34,200 --> 03:06:35,720
Speaker 4: I don't care what you got. I don't want to

4017
03:06:35,760 --> 03:06:37,720
Speaker 4: know you're good. How's your infrastructure?

4018
03:06:38,240 --> 03:06:38,400
Speaker 1: You know.

4019
03:06:39,000 --> 03:06:40,640
Speaker 4: I'm not saying you're not good, I'm just asking are

4020
03:06:40,680 --> 03:06:40,959
Speaker 4: you good?

4021
03:06:42,000 --> 03:06:46,440
Speaker 1: And that's not in your due diligence of associate coach.

4022
03:06:46,560 --> 03:06:49,440
Speaker 1: That's just speaking as a mention.

4023
03:06:49,560 --> 03:06:51,480
Speaker 4: So transparently, I have a sports agency. I have to

4024
03:06:51,520 --> 03:06:54,720
Speaker 4: say that, Okay, sec Compliancy Artist Management Group dot com

4025
03:06:54,840 --> 03:06:56,240
Speaker 4: sec Compliancy damn.

4026
03:07:00,080 --> 03:07:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

4027
03:07:00,520 --> 03:07:03,640
Speaker 4: But transparently, you know what I mean, we have a

4028
03:07:03,640 --> 03:07:04,720
Speaker 4: sports agency.

4029
03:07:06,160 --> 03:07:06,680
Speaker 1: That makes sense.

4030
03:07:06,720 --> 03:07:10,199
Speaker 4: That makes sense now because I'm not I'm not selling nobody.

4031
03:07:10,440 --> 03:07:14,480
Speaker 5: You're right, I'm growing up.

4032
03:07:14,520 --> 03:07:16,920
Speaker 4: But so I have two agencies. From Kobe Shin though

4033
03:07:17,080 --> 03:07:20,640
Speaker 4: the story she has doing nothing average agency and then

4034
03:07:20,760 --> 03:07:24,280
Speaker 4: Stacey Labor Labor Sports and Entertainment dot Com and then

4035
03:07:24,320 --> 03:07:26,640
Speaker 4: Covid and then doing nothing average dot Com. Those two

4036
03:07:26,680 --> 03:07:28,840
Speaker 4: of my agents, and then we have a couple others

4037
03:07:28,879 --> 03:07:31,160
Speaker 4: so so so yeah, were in it, and then we

4038
03:07:31,240 --> 03:07:34,680
Speaker 4: also have at some point transparency. At some point I'm

4039
03:07:34,680 --> 03:07:36,039
Speaker 4: going to have to make a decision and I'm getting

4040
03:07:36,040 --> 03:07:42,200
Speaker 4: into sports ownership or uh or management or agency sports agency.

4041
03:07:42,680 --> 03:07:46,000
Speaker 4: But it shouldn't stop the momentum. I just want to

4042
03:07:46,000 --> 03:07:48,600
Speaker 4: throw that out there real quick. But but yeah, so yeah,

4043
03:07:48,640 --> 03:07:50,039
Speaker 4: but yeah, you know we love sports.

4044
03:07:50,480 --> 03:07:51,400
Speaker 11: We love sports here too.

4045
03:07:51,440 --> 03:07:51,800
Speaker 4: We love.

4046
03:07:55,160 --> 03:08:00,280
Speaker 1: We take the pictures, right, Okay for a careful hood

4047
03:08:00,280 --> 03:08:07,920
Speaker 1: who loves bad thank you keep that loves loves basketball. Right,

4048
03:08:08,800 --> 03:08:12,680
Speaker 1: they grew up with they like they pissed Paul, but

4049
03:08:12,800 --> 03:08:15,520
Speaker 1: they got that passion. What do you suggest like that

4050
03:08:15,640 --> 03:08:17,960
Speaker 1: same eight year old kid, you know what I mean?

4051
03:08:18,000 --> 03:08:19,880
Speaker 1: Like I think you said your father started your hate.

4052
03:08:20,040 --> 03:08:22,560
Speaker 1: But what are you talking about? Yes, yes, a kid

4053
03:08:22,640 --> 03:08:26,240
Speaker 1: from open Lock, a kid from Compton, a kid from

4054
03:08:26,840 --> 03:08:30,400
Speaker 1: UH projects.

4055
03:08:30,440 --> 03:08:30,600
Speaker 2: You know.

4056
03:08:30,800 --> 03:08:31,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, I'm just.

4057
03:08:31,840 --> 03:08:34,959
Speaker 4: Saying also to say yes, keep going on.

4058
03:08:35,280 --> 03:08:37,240
Speaker 1: So like like like like, what do you say to

4059
03:08:37,320 --> 03:08:39,680
Speaker 1: that eight year old kid that wants to wants to

4060
03:08:40,280 --> 03:08:43,640
Speaker 1: live that same dream that you live, doesn't have the resources.

4061
03:08:44,480 --> 03:08:45,880
Speaker 5: All they have is they heart?

4062
03:08:46,000 --> 03:08:50,760
Speaker 1: Like really yes? But is that enough?

4063
03:08:50,879 --> 03:08:52,160
Speaker 5: So what do you say to that eight.

4064
03:08:52,200 --> 03:08:53,400
Speaker 1: Year old one?

4065
03:08:53,400 --> 03:08:56,039
Speaker 4: I wanted to say, Like the reason I was, I can't.

4066
03:08:56,040 --> 03:08:58,760
Speaker 4: I can't catch you off when you have like tequila,

4067
03:08:58,800 --> 03:09:00,360
Speaker 4: which is opera is not a downer. I think this

4068
03:09:00,440 --> 03:09:02,560
Speaker 4: is okay. Yoah should not be not the head coach

4069
03:09:02,600 --> 03:09:04,840
Speaker 4: for drink get to KILLO because you're friends with people

4070
03:09:04,879 --> 03:09:05,960
Speaker 4: that drink down there. I'm jerious.

4071
03:09:06,320 --> 03:09:13,120
Speaker 1: Yes, put your question here, like you're an eight year

4072
03:09:13,160 --> 03:09:15,840
Speaker 1: old that's like he wants to play ball. He has

4073
03:09:15,920 --> 03:09:18,880
Speaker 1: the passion, he just doesn't have the resources. What is

4074
03:09:19,160 --> 03:09:19,600
Speaker 1: this guy?

4075
03:09:20,080 --> 03:09:24,360
Speaker 4: Yeah? Community got it? Like, let's think of Rockaway. Don't

4076
03:09:24,400 --> 03:09:27,000
Speaker 4: understand about Farrocolay is it's the roughest part in New

4077
03:09:27,080 --> 03:09:30,720
Speaker 4: York City to live in. It's two hours no matter

4078
03:09:30,800 --> 03:09:32,760
Speaker 4: which way you talk, you talk about it. So let's

4079
03:09:32,800 --> 03:09:34,680
Speaker 4: just talk about that as a case study. I grew

4080
03:09:34,720 --> 03:09:37,039
Speaker 4: up in Fai Rockaway in the summertime. And so if

4081
03:09:37,080 --> 03:09:39,160
Speaker 4: you're a kid, if you get one case study and

4082
03:09:39,280 --> 03:09:41,320
Speaker 4: you take this case study and you bring it around,

4083
03:09:41,720 --> 03:09:44,000
Speaker 4: I would say, like, you know, it's not all about

4084
03:09:44,080 --> 03:09:47,080
Speaker 4: sports and entertainment, Like I think you have to learn

4085
03:09:47,120 --> 03:09:47,920
Speaker 4: how to build stuff.

4086
03:09:48,360 --> 03:09:49,080
Speaker 1: I think you have to.

4087
03:09:49,480 --> 03:09:51,440
Speaker 4: You definitely want to adapt with the times. But what

4088
03:09:51,640 --> 03:09:53,480
Speaker 4: what skill set do you have? That's why I will

4089
03:09:53,520 --> 03:09:56,520
Speaker 4: say first because on because the majority only a few

4090
03:09:56,560 --> 03:09:59,879
Speaker 4: people going pro that's the stats, right right, So then

4091
03:10:00,080 --> 03:10:02,000
Speaker 4: like I would say, learn how to build your community,

4092
03:10:02,640 --> 03:10:05,080
Speaker 4: and right now that I think there's opportunities they're building

4093
03:10:05,200 --> 03:10:08,280
Speaker 4: the attention fine right now. So if that's truly the case,

4094
03:10:08,920 --> 03:10:11,959
Speaker 4: you should give some of those some of those literacy jobs.

4095
03:10:12,280 --> 03:10:14,240
Speaker 4: You got to do it three years in advance, and

4096
03:10:14,360 --> 03:10:17,160
Speaker 4: you teach them how to build their own communities, you

4097
03:10:17,200 --> 03:10:17,560
Speaker 4: know what I mean?

4098
03:10:17,560 --> 03:10:18,920
Speaker 1: Because you can there's things you could do.

4099
03:10:19,360 --> 03:10:21,240
Speaker 4: It's plumbing. How long does it take to get a

4100
03:10:21,280 --> 03:10:25,560
Speaker 4: plumbing license? Or I got a company build ups dot com,

4101
03:10:26,440 --> 03:10:32,680
Speaker 4: build ups dot com, hvactors a big refrigeration. But I'm

4102
03:10:32,720 --> 03:10:35,200
Speaker 4: saying like slow money, you you know, And then how

4103
03:10:35,240 --> 03:10:39,120
Speaker 4: do we support each other anyway? And also under the

4104
03:10:39,200 --> 03:10:41,680
Speaker 4: context of being on the show, Yeah, I feel like

4105
03:10:41,680 --> 03:10:43,120
Speaker 4: I want to say certain things, but.

4106
03:10:45,680 --> 03:10:48,760
Speaker 5: Anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because yeah.

4107
03:10:48,600 --> 03:10:51,400
Speaker 4: It's crazy to like just seeing Normay and you get

4108
03:10:51,440 --> 03:10:52,320
Speaker 4: ask any questions you want to.

4109
03:10:54,400 --> 03:10:56,640
Speaker 1: I feel like you gave me financial advice. But but

4110
03:10:57,160 --> 03:10:58,560
Speaker 1: he needs basketball advice?

4111
03:10:58,640 --> 03:10:59,800
Speaker 11: What basket advice?

4112
03:11:00,080 --> 03:11:03,400
Speaker 4: Go to Artest Education Foundation. Honestly say you can Basco advice. Okay,

4113
03:11:03,760 --> 03:11:09,400
Speaker 4: so right now, yeah, art Test Education Foundation because right

4114
03:11:09,400 --> 03:11:11,960
Speaker 4: now we're just trying to figure out we never launched

4115
03:11:11,959 --> 03:11:14,200
Speaker 4: the program we are now. But I've done so much

4116
03:11:14,240 --> 03:11:17,120
Speaker 4: in philanthropy, you know, I've done so much. I had

4117
03:11:17,160 --> 03:11:20,440
Speaker 4: one group tell me matter, you know, you don't really

4118
03:11:20,520 --> 03:11:25,680
Speaker 4: meet impliancy for for your foundation to receive funds. I'm saying, well,

4119
03:11:26,240 --> 03:11:29,360
Speaker 4: what do you mean? This is twenty and twenty five.

4120
03:11:30,320 --> 03:11:34,240
Speaker 4: In twenty ten, I raffled off my championship bring is

4121
03:11:34,320 --> 03:11:37,039
Speaker 4: documented and I gave away six hundred and seventy one thousand.

4122
03:11:38,720 --> 03:11:39,520
Speaker 4: So what do you what are you?

4123
03:11:39,760 --> 03:11:43,440
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Why are you making a loopholes? Yes?

4124
03:11:43,520 --> 03:11:46,400
Speaker 4: Yes, the Lakers, Yes, my lagagee yes, yes, what did

4125
03:11:46,440 --> 03:11:47,400
Speaker 4: you get for it? Oh?

4126
03:11:48,200 --> 03:11:48,760
Speaker 1: What I did? So?

4127
03:11:48,920 --> 03:11:52,160
Speaker 4: So Diddy try to you know, Diddy offer two hundred

4128
03:11:52,160 --> 03:11:54,520
Speaker 4: and twenty five thousand. That's I played for coach Diddy,

4129
03:11:54,600 --> 03:11:56,560
Speaker 4: so I don't know. So he offered two and twenty

4130
03:11:56,560 --> 03:11:58,520
Speaker 4: five thousand. I said that's not gonna be enough, because

4131
03:11:58,520 --> 03:12:00,480
Speaker 4: if I sell it if I raffle it for a dollar,

4132
03:12:00,840 --> 03:12:02,120
Speaker 4: I think I can give my money. Not for me,

4133
03:12:02,160 --> 03:12:06,000
Speaker 4: I'm not pugging in my pockets, but calls so anyway.

4134
03:12:06,320 --> 03:12:10,840
Speaker 4: And he also the RUT championship. Oh he always eighteen

4135
03:12:10,879 --> 03:12:14,480
Speaker 4: thousand dollars watches like but I say that because not

4136
03:12:14,600 --> 03:12:17,600
Speaker 4: why everybody else thinking about it? I played for coach Diddy,

4137
03:12:18,280 --> 03:12:22,040
Speaker 4: So that's all I'm saying, because sometimes you can't avoid

4138
03:12:22,480 --> 03:12:26,720
Speaker 4: talking about Diddy. No, right, and then perspective on it.

4139
03:12:26,800 --> 03:12:29,080
Speaker 4: And this is a revolt, right, this is a revolt.

4140
03:12:29,200 --> 03:12:34,960
Speaker 4: So this is a revolt. But this is why I

4141
03:12:35,040 --> 03:12:35,520
Speaker 4: do what I do.

4142
03:12:36,640 --> 03:12:36,760
Speaker 1: Right.

4143
03:12:37,000 --> 03:12:40,680
Speaker 4: I see a rapping, I'm like, yo, Like, okay, what's

4144
03:12:40,720 --> 03:12:43,520
Speaker 4: the bigger picture. I see a ballplayer and I'm I'm

4145
03:12:43,520 --> 03:12:45,600
Speaker 4: mentoring boxes right now. I'm not gonna say their names,

4146
03:12:46,200 --> 03:12:50,360
Speaker 4: but I'm actually mentoring like boxes, basketball players move too,

4147
03:12:50,520 --> 03:12:51,400
Speaker 4: And I'm so exciting.

4148
03:12:51,600 --> 03:12:54,000
Speaker 1: I heard this the other day. I was I kept

4149
03:12:54,080 --> 03:12:56,600
Speaker 1: researching you, and you were saying that at one point

4150
03:12:56,640 --> 03:12:58,400
Speaker 1: in your life he was watching boxing. More thing he

4151
03:12:58,520 --> 03:13:03,280
Speaker 1: was watching, Yeah, my dad for you, My dad was

4152
03:13:03,360 --> 03:13:04,240
Speaker 1: my dad's two on one.

4153
03:13:04,320 --> 03:13:06,600
Speaker 4: You go to BoxRec dot com, which is the main

4154
03:13:06,959 --> 03:13:09,320
Speaker 4: I think you all been to box I think twenty percent.

4155
03:13:09,480 --> 03:13:13,680
Speaker 1: You've been to box wrect watch boxing every day. So

4156
03:13:13,760 --> 03:13:17,360
Speaker 1: my dad's on't My dad's on box wrecks. He's two

4157
03:13:17,400 --> 03:13:17,640
Speaker 1: on one.

4158
03:13:17,959 --> 03:13:20,360
Speaker 4: Then he had me, so that's what happened. So my

4159
03:13:20,440 --> 03:13:22,640
Speaker 4: dad's two on one. He's a boxing professional boxer. He's

4160
03:13:22,640 --> 03:13:27,840
Speaker 4: from Philly, you know what I mean? So, yeah, yeah, me,

4161
03:13:27,959 --> 03:13:31,000
Speaker 4: But I love boxing in my favorite sport. We had

4162
03:13:31,000 --> 03:13:33,879
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, can Intrinsic dot Com. That's my CPA accounting firm.

4163
03:13:34,760 --> 03:13:38,720
Speaker 4: I'm not promoting to you, but Canelo Science Intrinsic Biz

4164
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Speaker 4: Intrinsic dot Biz we have a so I launched that

4165
03:13:42,400 --> 03:13:45,720
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen. But I love boxing because in boxing you

4166
03:13:45,760 --> 03:13:49,920
Speaker 4: can get a larger management fee. That's legal. Wow, I

4167
03:13:49,959 --> 03:13:52,440
Speaker 4: ain't saying no, that's not legal. But in basketball's at

4168
03:13:52,480 --> 03:13:54,320
Speaker 4: four percent. Boxing is different.

4169
03:13:54,760 --> 03:13:55,680
Speaker 1: So you know.

4170
03:13:55,760 --> 03:13:58,960
Speaker 4: So, but I love boxing, and I think like Louie

4171
03:13:59,000 --> 03:14:01,800
Speaker 4: from Tenth Street on my block. He's the first person

4172
03:14:01,840 --> 03:14:07,600
Speaker 4: to knocked down Roy Jones. You know Louis Yeah, so

4173
03:14:07,840 --> 03:14:10,480
Speaker 4: you should do little history. He has trained on the

4174
03:14:10,560 --> 03:14:13,760
Speaker 4: Floyd Maybethers fighters. This is drink Chance sports, you know

4175
03:14:13,800 --> 03:14:19,040
Speaker 4: what I mean. So he's also from my block from

4176
03:14:19,240 --> 03:14:22,080
Speaker 4: his building attached to line of meat building like, so

4177
03:14:22,480 --> 03:14:24,840
Speaker 4: he also won titles and his family was they was

4178
03:14:24,879 --> 03:14:28,240
Speaker 4: winning kickboxing. So his sister and his little brother kickboxing

4179
03:14:28,320 --> 03:14:32,119
Speaker 4: championships at the same level. So he actually Roy Jones

4180
03:14:32,160 --> 03:14:36,280
Speaker 4: be anyway, people forget about Louis, but boxing is like,

4181
03:14:36,520 --> 03:14:37,440
Speaker 4: why do I love boxing?

4182
03:14:37,520 --> 03:14:38,199
Speaker 11: My dad box?

4183
03:14:39,400 --> 03:14:41,320
Speaker 4: My dad used to take me to the Lost Battalion

4184
03:14:41,920 --> 03:14:45,200
Speaker 4: and you know in New York, but he would keep

4185
03:14:45,200 --> 03:14:46,600
Speaker 4: me away from boxing. He didn't want me to get

4186
03:14:46,640 --> 03:14:50,760
Speaker 4: your head, so my dad, I would see, I see, Yeah,

4187
03:14:50,800 --> 03:14:53,920
Speaker 4: he never wanted me to fight, you know what I mean.

4188
03:14:54,360 --> 03:14:58,120
Speaker 4: So my dad's two and one and he fighting, and

4189
03:14:59,000 --> 03:15:01,280
Speaker 4: I want to learn because my dad's in my life,

4190
03:15:01,320 --> 03:15:03,880
Speaker 4: even though he was like to my mom he wasn't

4191
03:15:03,879 --> 03:15:06,200
Speaker 4: the best coming into that, but to me, he was

4192
03:15:06,280 --> 03:15:09,760
Speaker 4: dead every day. Something he kept me from boxing. But

4193
03:15:09,879 --> 03:15:12,040
Speaker 4: the crazy thing was it's a great story though. The

4194
03:15:12,160 --> 03:15:16,360
Speaker 4: crazy thing was two thousand and twenty six something like that,

4195
03:15:16,480 --> 03:15:18,360
Speaker 4: maybe twenty four, I don't quite remember. My dad got

4196
03:15:18,440 --> 03:15:21,280
Speaker 4: me on the phone. This is two thousand oh four, sorry,

4197
03:15:21,360 --> 03:15:26,160
Speaker 4: oh four six. Who's Muhammad Ali trainer Bundy? That's his

4198
03:15:26,240 --> 03:15:31,119
Speaker 4: full name. Angelo Dundee, Yes, Angelo Dundee training. So I'm like, dad,

4199
03:15:31,160 --> 03:15:32,720
Speaker 4: how the hell are you on the phone with Angelo

4200
03:15:32,760 --> 03:15:34,720
Speaker 4: Dundee or my dad? I always wanted to give him

4201
03:15:34,760 --> 03:15:39,200
Speaker 4: four fights now you well, yeah, I just say four. Okay,

4202
03:15:39,240 --> 03:15:41,640
Speaker 4: let's have four. So you see are people fighting now?

4203
03:15:42,400 --> 03:15:42,600
Speaker 11: Yeah?

4204
03:15:42,760 --> 03:15:44,360
Speaker 4: Okay, so anyway four I'm not fighting now.

4205
03:15:44,360 --> 03:15:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it now. Turned down there. I'm not

4206
03:15:46,440 --> 03:15:46,880
Speaker 1: doing it now.

4207
03:15:47,160 --> 03:15:48,720
Speaker 4: It's like I'm forty six, I'm on vacation.

4208
03:15:49,160 --> 03:15:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm not fighting.

4209
03:15:51,480 --> 03:15:55,960
Speaker 4: Nobody in that area. In two thousand and four, I

4210
03:15:56,080 --> 03:15:59,560
Speaker 4: thought like, what Jake Paul is doing right now? I

4211
03:15:59,600 --> 03:16:03,480
Speaker 4: want to celebrity boxing. Yeah, it's two thousand and five

4212
03:16:03,760 --> 03:16:04,320
Speaker 4: if he did that.

4213
03:16:04,920 --> 03:16:08,280
Speaker 1: But Mike, Mike was different than O four six huh Tyson.

4214
03:16:09,160 --> 03:16:10,879
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm a fight against Mike Tyson.

4215
03:16:13,760 --> 03:16:14,440
Speaker 11: I'm saying I want you.

4216
03:16:14,520 --> 03:16:14,680
Speaker 3: I was.

4217
03:16:14,879 --> 03:16:17,320
Speaker 4: I was thinking of what Jake Paul was doing. I

4218
03:16:17,400 --> 03:16:19,960
Speaker 4: do not want to get hit in my head. I

4219
03:16:20,040 --> 03:16:23,040
Speaker 4: got to offer from Triller. I said, you know, there's

4220
03:16:23,080 --> 03:16:26,080
Speaker 4: no amount of money y'all can offer me. I talk

4221
03:16:26,120 --> 03:16:29,640
Speaker 4: about you know what I mean, he's you know, he's

4222
03:16:29,680 --> 03:16:34,280
Speaker 4: oct five hundred thousand, definitely not enough to fight, you know.

4223
03:16:34,400 --> 03:16:36,600
Speaker 4: But I think I now, I do think I would

4224
03:16:36,600 --> 03:16:41,200
Speaker 4: be more entertaining have a better track record, but you

4225
03:16:41,280 --> 03:16:42,800
Speaker 4: know what I mean, I have a way better track

4226
03:16:42,879 --> 03:16:46,280
Speaker 4: records or how right? So anyway, but anyway, I love

4227
03:16:46,360 --> 03:16:48,840
Speaker 4: boxing that much. We got boxing Cordell Booker. We just

4228
03:16:48,879 --> 03:16:52,560
Speaker 4: signed Cordeal Booker. He lost against Frondora, but everybody's losing

4229
03:16:52,600 --> 03:17:00,120
Speaker 4: against front doorra every transit dot com intrinsic business like

4230
03:17:00,200 --> 03:17:03,600
Speaker 4: a CPA accounting for where we managed only accounting all

4231
03:17:03,680 --> 03:17:08,800
Speaker 4: fuduciaries taxes. And we have another company that where we

4232
03:17:08,879 --> 03:17:13,280
Speaker 4: signed Cordel Booker to our box PGT Sports. That's where

4233
03:17:13,320 --> 03:17:15,200
Speaker 4: we got Cordel Booker and we got more boxes though.

4234
03:17:15,440 --> 03:17:17,280
Speaker 4: But I'm like behind the scenes now, but you know

4235
03:17:17,400 --> 03:17:20,080
Speaker 4: this is yeah, I love But anyway boxing. I can

4236
03:17:20,120 --> 03:17:22,360
Speaker 4: go on and on about boxing, like I call Floyd,

4237
03:17:22,400 --> 03:17:24,880
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna talk too much about it. Floyd's by god.

4238
03:17:25,120 --> 03:17:27,800
Speaker 4: I always check about Floyd, and Floyd is so dope,

4239
03:17:28,360 --> 03:17:30,560
Speaker 4: like he would give me tickets to the games to

4240
03:17:30,640 --> 03:17:33,119
Speaker 4: the fights. I say games to the fights. He ain't

4241
03:17:33,120 --> 03:17:35,840
Speaker 4: give it eighty tickets. I'm like, hey, family, we got

4242
03:17:35,879 --> 03:17:39,520
Speaker 4: any tickets to Floyd tonight on the front Road. I

4243
03:17:39,640 --> 03:17:42,280
Speaker 4: love Floyd, and I'm not talking about one fight. So

4244
03:17:42,320 --> 03:17:43,920
Speaker 4: I'm like always like, Floyd, what can I do for you?

4245
03:17:44,000 --> 03:17:47,240
Speaker 4: But Floyd Mayweather, I feel like, you know, he doesn't

4246
03:17:47,280 --> 03:17:49,080
Speaker 4: drink I've been out with Floyd. You don't drink it

4247
03:17:49,160 --> 03:17:52,720
Speaker 4: on smoke. And I'm like, that's inspiring to see as

4248
03:17:52,760 --> 03:17:55,600
Speaker 4: an athlete, you know. And then also we see the

4249
03:17:55,640 --> 03:18:00,200
Speaker 4: stuff that's happening now. But we talked about when is

4250
03:18:00,280 --> 03:18:03,959
Speaker 4: to support each other, right ye, fact absolutely talked always.

4251
03:18:04,680 --> 03:18:05,320
Speaker 4: But that's sports.

4252
03:18:05,760 --> 03:18:08,000
Speaker 1: So I got a good one for you. Yeah, and

4253
03:18:08,120 --> 03:18:10,080
Speaker 1: then you're never gonna hear my month forget.

4254
03:18:10,680 --> 03:18:10,840
Speaker 2: Oh.

4255
03:18:10,959 --> 03:18:17,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, yeah, this is.

4256
03:18:17,959 --> 03:18:21,480
Speaker 10: Nothing crazy or anything like that, because you've had a

4257
03:18:21,560 --> 03:18:25,480
Speaker 10: long career and I count your career after back ladies.

4258
03:18:27,000 --> 03:18:30,640
Speaker 4: Yes, she's here, No left, Yes, I was just going

4259
03:18:31,080 --> 03:18:34,440
Speaker 4: because it's a little bit of cava left a little cover. No,

4260
03:18:34,520 --> 03:18:36,080
Speaker 4: that's okay, now we already I was you gonna put

4261
03:18:36,120 --> 03:18:37,800
Speaker 4: water in it, meeting water.

4262
03:18:38,080 --> 03:18:44,320
Speaker 1: Mister Lee got you And I mean this from the beginning.

4263
03:18:44,000 --> 03:18:47,120
Speaker 10: Of your career getting a dollar the first dollar you

4264
03:18:47,200 --> 03:18:52,200
Speaker 10: ever got paid professionally, so it might be n b A,

4265
03:18:52,520 --> 03:18:56,000
Speaker 10: it might be before that, all the way till today.

4266
03:18:56,240 --> 03:19:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I regret that maybe might help a younger kid.

4267
03:19:04,360 --> 03:19:07,960
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, yes, yes, someone who's had the kind of

4268
03:19:08,080 --> 03:19:09,039
Speaker 10: success you've asked.

4269
03:19:09,040 --> 03:19:10,200
Speaker 1: So I do want to stay free.

4270
03:19:10,600 --> 03:19:14,680
Speaker 4: Yes, one regret you may have had, Yeah, might be

4271
03:19:14,720 --> 03:19:16,560
Speaker 4: able to help someone else. So I'm gonna say that,

4272
03:19:16,760 --> 03:19:19,039
Speaker 4: Like I used to do homework on Tell Street because

4273
03:19:19,080 --> 03:19:20,920
Speaker 4: like I was in my house and there was things

4274
03:19:21,000 --> 03:19:22,680
Speaker 4: going on. I don't want to talk about it because

4275
03:19:22,720 --> 03:19:26,800
Speaker 4: my mom and dad is awesome. But so I'm gonna

4276
03:19:26,800 --> 03:19:29,039
Speaker 4: do my homework outside on Toll Street. That's why I'm

4277
03:19:29,040 --> 03:19:31,600
Speaker 4: doing my homework. Yeah, you see my grades. I told

4278
03:19:31,600 --> 03:19:34,480
Speaker 4: you about my grades. Yes, all right, you see what

4279
03:19:34,480 --> 03:19:39,000
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So, so it's about the lock in. You

4280
03:19:39,080 --> 03:19:41,480
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, because like at home, it's like

4281
03:19:41,520 --> 03:19:43,039
Speaker 4: where are you gonna do your homework? Don't you gotta

4282
03:19:43,080 --> 03:19:45,920
Speaker 4: do homework? I tell you, when one ban two w LA,

4283
03:19:47,800 --> 03:19:50,280
Speaker 4: you lose two weeks of school. When you lose two

4284
03:19:50,320 --> 03:19:53,520
Speaker 4: weeks of school in nineteen ninety three, how are you

4285
03:19:53,560 --> 03:19:56,520
Speaker 4: gonna catch up? You're gonna get left back, right, You're

4286
03:19:56,560 --> 03:19:59,280
Speaker 4: gonna get left back. It's a failed, is a fail?

4287
03:20:00,120 --> 03:20:02,000
Speaker 4: How are you going to catch up? So, and we

4288
03:20:02,160 --> 03:20:05,360
Speaker 4: know that is a stat So from that perspective, I

4289
03:20:05,440 --> 03:20:08,039
Speaker 4: got to give this information, right, you.

4290
03:20:08,080 --> 03:20:08,959
Speaker 1: Got to give this information.

4291
03:20:09,240 --> 03:20:12,320
Speaker 4: And then also if somebody's being locked up that it

4292
03:20:12,360 --> 03:20:15,080
Speaker 4: should be it should not be tied to the school system.

4293
03:20:15,400 --> 03:20:18,199
Speaker 4: If you in jail, she'd not should still graduate because

4294
03:20:18,240 --> 03:20:18,840
Speaker 4: who knows why?

4295
03:20:19,280 --> 03:20:19,920
Speaker 1: Right? Right?

4296
03:20:20,120 --> 03:20:20,240
Speaker 2: Right?

4297
03:20:20,520 --> 03:20:22,520
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Who knows why this kid

4298
03:20:22,879 --> 03:20:23,640
Speaker 4: when left.

4299
03:20:24,040 --> 03:20:25,720
Speaker 11: And doesn't pick up?

4300
03:20:26,080 --> 03:20:29,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, who knows ye or the dys or the juvenile

4301
03:20:29,920 --> 03:20:33,840
Speaker 10: pick up where that kid is ages in school while

4302
03:20:33,879 --> 03:20:34,560
Speaker 10: he's locked up.

4303
03:20:34,640 --> 03:20:37,200
Speaker 4: So for me, in nineteen ninety three, I wanted to

4304
03:20:37,200 --> 03:20:41,040
Speaker 4: be a math teacher. I was two or four. That's

4305
03:20:41,040 --> 03:20:42,480
Speaker 4: why I mentioned in the Math Architect I want to

4306
03:20:42,480 --> 03:20:43,680
Speaker 4: be a math teacher because at that age I was

4307
03:20:43,720 --> 03:20:45,960
Speaker 4: going through a lot. And now I can get complain

4308
03:20:46,000 --> 03:20:48,560
Speaker 4: about it. But you're on these type of platforms, you

4309
03:20:48,600 --> 03:20:51,360
Speaker 4: can talk about them. When you're on these type of platforms,

4310
03:20:52,600 --> 03:20:53,400
Speaker 4: you can talk about it.

4311
03:20:54,000 --> 03:20:54,520
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

4312
03:20:54,640 --> 03:20:56,440
Speaker 4: Like what I told about I said, you know what

4313
03:20:57,320 --> 03:21:00,800
Speaker 4: just so happened? I know, nory it is the regret. Okay,

4314
03:21:00,840 --> 03:21:01,560
Speaker 4: ask the question again.

4315
03:21:02,160 --> 03:21:05,800
Speaker 1: Regret regret one, regret one. I give you a few.

4316
03:21:05,840 --> 03:21:06,360
Speaker 1: I give you a few.

4317
03:21:08,080 --> 03:21:11,840
Speaker 4: I already one, I give you one, and well nobody

4318
03:21:11,879 --> 03:21:16,039
Speaker 4: say he good, We're good good alright, so I would say,

4319
03:21:17,320 --> 03:21:18,960
Speaker 4: so the first thing I want so I was signed

4320
03:21:19,000 --> 03:21:21,160
Speaker 4: to and I also want to give content, but I'm

4321
03:21:21,160 --> 03:21:24,480
Speaker 4: also trying to get content respectfully. But like, so I

4322
03:21:24,560 --> 03:21:25,720
Speaker 4: signed with Dwayne.

4323
03:21:25,440 --> 03:21:30,199
Speaker 11: Martin, Yeah, the actor. Yeah, yeah, only one.

4324
03:21:30,200 --> 03:21:34,320
Speaker 1: Dayne name the second name, my second Dwayne No, no, no,

4325
03:21:34,560 --> 03:21:34,840
Speaker 1: my bad.

4326
03:21:34,840 --> 03:21:35,520
Speaker 5: I just had to take it.

4327
03:21:36,080 --> 03:21:40,480
Speaker 4: I know, I'm actually not I'm actually I'm actually not

4328
03:21:40,640 --> 03:21:43,240
Speaker 4: challenging you. I'm actually really curious. Do you know another

4329
03:21:43,320 --> 03:21:43,800
Speaker 4: Dwayne Martin?

4330
03:21:43,959 --> 03:21:47,920
Speaker 1: No, dude, I know.

4331
03:21:48,800 --> 03:21:52,000
Speaker 11: For those that don't know, Dwayne Martin, k Kylie Watson

4332
03:21:53,120 --> 03:21:53,720
Speaker 11: above the rim.

4333
03:21:54,240 --> 03:21:56,080
Speaker 4: Okay, great, I said, I don't know that. Oh he

4334
03:21:56,160 --> 03:21:56,800
Speaker 4: was in about the room.

4335
03:21:56,840 --> 03:21:58,360
Speaker 11: Saytie Watson, that's what I'm saying.

4336
03:21:58,440 --> 03:22:00,440
Speaker 4: Okay, great, I say, okay, that's his name. Yeah, okay,

4337
03:22:00,480 --> 03:22:03,240
Speaker 4: So anyway, he was my first agent. He came to

4338
03:22:03,280 --> 03:22:06,280
Speaker 4: queens Bridge. So I love Dwayne and he's my he's

4339
03:22:06,280 --> 03:22:07,920
Speaker 4: a real close friend and teacher and his wife and

4340
03:22:07,959 --> 03:22:11,280
Speaker 4: they divorced since they're both really good friends. Say he's

4341
03:22:11,320 --> 03:22:14,680
Speaker 4: my first agent. But I think like at that time,

4342
03:22:15,200 --> 03:22:16,640
Speaker 4: so I do want to say I wanted to buy

4343
03:22:16,680 --> 03:22:19,400
Speaker 4: a Prius. I'm sorry, a caravan. Because when you were

4344
03:22:19,400 --> 03:22:22,760
Speaker 4: in high school, right in nineteen ninety six, you don't

4345
03:22:22,800 --> 03:22:23,200
Speaker 4: got a car.

4346
03:22:24,000 --> 03:22:25,920
Speaker 1: Where are you looking at in New York City? Tell me,

4347
03:22:26,320 --> 03:22:27,160
Speaker 1: I know you did it before.

4348
03:22:27,240 --> 03:22:30,400
Speaker 4: Tell me what maner?

4349
03:22:30,959 --> 03:22:34,280
Speaker 5: Okay, the newspaper. That's everybody lives in the newspaper.

4350
03:22:34,280 --> 03:22:37,760
Speaker 4: Who from New York? So you see that caravan, you

4351
03:22:37,840 --> 03:22:41,560
Speaker 4: see that Chrysler. You ain't look at that? No business, right,

4352
03:22:41,800 --> 03:22:43,280
Speaker 4: you're too young, that's your range.

4353
03:22:46,240 --> 03:23:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure now we looked at the Crysler MPV. Ain't

4354
03:23:00,200 --> 03:23:01,200
Speaker 1: Lopez had an mp V.

4355
03:23:01,879 --> 03:23:05,199
Speaker 4: He found Negro but ethnicity.

4356
03:23:05,720 --> 03:23:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to be in New Jersey, christ that's not.

4357
03:23:14,280 --> 03:23:16,400
Speaker 5: Definitely washing.

4358
03:23:17,320 --> 03:23:20,160
Speaker 4: So I wanted to buy a caravan. My first check

4359
03:23:20,200 --> 03:23:22,640
Speaker 4: in the NB. I'm not gonna lie. I wanted about caravan.

4360
03:23:22,680 --> 03:23:24,320
Speaker 4: I wanted to buy a caravan.

4361
03:23:24,800 --> 03:23:26,920
Speaker 1: Caravan. It was hot, but.

4362
03:23:28,160 --> 03:23:29,760
Speaker 4: Family, not an MPV.

4363
03:23:30,120 --> 03:23:37,440
Speaker 1: The dog. Yeah there, I had a kid.

4364
03:23:37,760 --> 03:23:41,200
Speaker 4: I had a kid at sixteen. I'm as you see

4365
03:23:41,200 --> 03:23:44,320
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I think, how you think I just

4366
03:23:44,440 --> 03:23:45,119
Speaker 4: read something.

4367
03:23:47,320 --> 03:23:47,600
Speaker 1: I got?

4368
03:23:47,720 --> 03:23:47,879
Speaker 4: Yeah?

4369
03:23:47,879 --> 03:23:50,680
Speaker 1: I know this girl got him thinking like that.

4370
03:23:51,280 --> 03:23:54,880
Speaker 4: Anyway, when you get persuaded to do something other like

4371
03:23:55,040 --> 03:23:59,199
Speaker 4: buy more. You shouldn't be persuading nobody to buy more. Damn,

4372
03:23:59,440 --> 03:24:01,320
Speaker 4: you ain't even work over your principle yet.

4373
03:24:03,320 --> 03:24:04,600
Speaker 1: But you're talking on the level.

4374
03:24:04,879 --> 03:24:07,959
Speaker 4: There's not another level because it's just something we shouldn't

4375
03:24:07,959 --> 03:24:11,160
Speaker 4: tell people should nobody. There's not another level you should

4376
03:24:11,200 --> 03:24:11,640
Speaker 4: not be working on.

4377
03:24:12,120 --> 03:24:13,280
Speaker 1: Generation should be at this.

4378
03:24:14,280 --> 03:24:17,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, hopefully so anyway down now is like now

4379
03:24:17,800 --> 03:24:19,879
Speaker 4: to go back to my dude from Sorry, I'm excited,

4380
03:24:20,280 --> 03:24:22,840
Speaker 4: but this guy was telling me today the New York

4381
03:24:22,840 --> 03:24:24,440
Speaker 4: gets talked with their hands. I'm from New York. I'm like,

4382
03:24:24,800 --> 03:24:25,600
Speaker 4: I guess we talk what I.

4383
03:24:28,560 --> 03:24:29,039
Speaker 1: You can't help.

4384
03:24:30,040 --> 03:24:33,240
Speaker 10: The whole question was the regret, Oh yeah, do you

4385
03:24:33,320 --> 03:24:36,879
Speaker 10: have I don't want you to day Yeah for what.

4386
03:24:37,080 --> 03:24:40,080
Speaker 1: From what for? Prey? Regret that you can help a

4387
03:24:40,320 --> 03:24:41,840
Speaker 1: young person coming by?

4388
03:24:42,040 --> 03:24:45,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say you yeah, I would say and

4389
03:24:45,480 --> 03:24:49,200
Speaker 4: now and nowadays I would say family first, because so

4390
03:24:49,280 --> 03:24:53,240
Speaker 4: many athletes, what's happening as athletes entertainers. There's no knowledge

4391
03:24:53,280 --> 03:24:56,600
Speaker 4: transferring back if you look at the I guess the

4392
03:24:56,680 --> 03:24:58,920
Speaker 4: boss got right, and it's okay to talk about it

4393
03:24:59,000 --> 03:25:00,520
Speaker 4: like you can't hit on somebody have it more than

4394
03:25:00,600 --> 03:25:02,760
Speaker 4: I just want to say that, but you know, the

4395
03:25:02,840 --> 03:25:07,640
Speaker 4: wealth got trillions of dollars and uh ownership of you know,

4396
03:25:07,920 --> 03:25:11,360
Speaker 4: call it the white angle, Saxon and Jewish right. And

4397
03:25:11,480 --> 03:25:14,280
Speaker 4: then next is Indian. It's only this is public knowledge

4398
03:25:14,280 --> 03:25:17,400
Speaker 4: because I just read it online, right, and then Blacks,

4399
03:25:17,640 --> 03:25:19,320
Speaker 4: I looked at it and there was nowhere to be found.

4400
03:25:19,760 --> 03:25:22,959
Speaker 4: So that's not even in you know, under under management,

4401
03:25:23,080 --> 03:25:26,040
Speaker 4: not even management, because we spend right. We spent a

4402
03:25:26,080 --> 03:25:29,840
Speaker 4: lot of money. So from that perspective for right, you know,

4403
03:25:30,040 --> 03:25:32,440
Speaker 4: from that perspective, and then also I think people deserves,

4404
03:25:32,920 --> 03:25:34,360
Speaker 4: you know, right to have a great end of life.

4405
03:25:35,360 --> 03:25:37,320
Speaker 4: I was the first support of r f K and

4406
03:25:38,040 --> 03:25:39,440
Speaker 4: Metalworale Peace from Tel Street.

4407
03:25:41,040 --> 03:25:42,200
Speaker 1: That's Robert Kennedy.

4408
03:25:42,520 --> 03:25:45,600
Speaker 4: But you don't let me talk about let me talk

4409
03:25:45,640 --> 03:25:51,160
Speaker 4: about life, coach. I'm not gonna cut you off. I

4410
03:25:51,240 --> 03:25:55,040
Speaker 4: wanted to talk about why I mentioned that. Okay, why

4411
03:25:55,120 --> 03:25:57,960
Speaker 4: I mentioned that was because they reached out to me.

4412
03:25:58,080 --> 03:26:00,360
Speaker 4: I'm doing a lot of positive stuff, and I think

4413
03:26:00,400 --> 03:26:02,240
Speaker 4: you reserved the right to give back. No matter what

4414
03:26:02,280 --> 03:26:03,560
Speaker 4: you've been through your life, you deserved the right to

4415
03:26:03,600 --> 03:26:05,400
Speaker 4: get back. So I was the first one. I was

4416
03:26:05,440 --> 03:26:08,240
Speaker 4: the first supporter of the first entertainment sports. Look at

4417
03:26:08,280 --> 03:26:11,240
Speaker 4: it on YouTube and you'll see me introduce the VP.

4418
03:26:12,040 --> 03:26:15,000
Speaker 4: You'll see me introduced his VP, and then what what

4419
03:26:15,120 --> 03:26:19,280
Speaker 4: you'll also see is mister Trump. I'm saying this as

4420
03:26:19,320 --> 03:26:22,600
Speaker 4: a I'm an independent voter publicly, but you also see

4421
03:26:22,640 --> 03:26:24,600
Speaker 4: them saying that they Man, I don't feel like going

4422
03:26:24,640 --> 03:26:26,400
Speaker 4: to get SORRFK. I don't want to get too much

4423
03:26:26,400 --> 03:26:27,840
Speaker 4: into that, but I do. But from my from my

4424
03:26:28,440 --> 03:26:30,400
Speaker 4: and I was the first. So from that perspective, I

4425
03:26:30,440 --> 03:26:31,520
Speaker 4: asked him could I be his VP?

4426
03:26:32,840 --> 03:26:33,920
Speaker 1: You know, be VP?

4427
03:26:34,200 --> 03:26:38,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my guy? And what did he do? It

4428
03:26:38,480 --> 03:26:41,959
Speaker 4: was one of those things that is not realistic, it's

4429
03:26:42,000 --> 03:26:45,800
Speaker 4: not really. What I'm saying is from a health perspective,

4430
03:26:46,640 --> 03:26:48,000
Speaker 4: you got to get in where you fit in and

4431
03:26:48,080 --> 03:26:50,760
Speaker 4: politics and social impacts. It's not going to be perfect.

4432
03:26:51,120 --> 03:26:52,760
Speaker 4: But if you're trying to give back, you want to

4433
03:26:52,800 --> 03:26:55,920
Speaker 4: give back at the highest level. Right, So if that's

4434
03:26:55,959 --> 03:26:58,480
Speaker 4: the case, Like, I love the fact that we should

4435
03:26:58,480 --> 03:27:02,560
Speaker 4: be eating healthy. You know, you know, I've also listened

4436
03:27:02,800 --> 03:27:07,080
Speaker 4: also washing doctor Sebby right, and I learned how to

4437
03:27:07,160 --> 03:27:10,720
Speaker 4: eat healthy. So now it's like it's about us. We're

4438
03:27:10,760 --> 03:27:12,640
Speaker 4: not in competition. Why we got to be in competition

4439
03:27:12,760 --> 03:27:16,000
Speaker 4: with you. I mean, we're just getting there. So anyway,

4440
03:27:16,560 --> 03:27:19,920
Speaker 4: you know, I was excited to like your Math Hoffer,

4441
03:27:19,959 --> 03:27:20,959
Speaker 4: that's my guy, asked math.

4442
03:27:21,240 --> 03:27:21,440
Speaker 1: Math.

4443
03:27:21,520 --> 03:27:23,880
Speaker 4: Had a lot of conversations, you know what I mean.

4444
03:27:23,920 --> 03:27:26,680
Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta record with what's the guy that

4445
03:27:26,800 --> 03:27:29,880
Speaker 4: battled the best battle of sorry murder boot when I

4446
03:27:29,920 --> 03:27:30,440
Speaker 4: battle him?

4447
03:27:31,080 --> 03:27:31,879
Speaker 1: Loaded?

4448
03:27:31,959 --> 03:27:32,199
Speaker 12: Sorry?

4449
03:27:32,240 --> 03:27:32,440
Speaker 1: Sorry?

4450
03:27:32,480 --> 03:27:33,119
Speaker 4: Loaded? Loaded?

4451
03:27:33,320 --> 03:27:33,640
Speaker 1: Sorry?

4452
03:27:34,520 --> 03:27:37,120
Speaker 4: I got a record with Loaded. I love Loaded career.

4453
03:27:37,160 --> 03:27:39,280
Speaker 4: We talked about a lot of stuff, you know what

4454
03:27:39,320 --> 03:27:43,039
Speaker 4: I mean, But yeah, this is a great opportunity. Anyway, he's.

4455
03:27:48,600 --> 03:27:50,440
Speaker 1: Because because this is what I want to know, Like

4456
03:27:50,480 --> 03:27:55,640
Speaker 1: when you squashed the beef with the guy right from Green?

4457
03:27:55,760 --> 03:27:58,520
Speaker 1: What was his name? Green? He's a squash, Yeah, the

4458
03:27:58,840 --> 03:28:02,360
Speaker 1: guy that you thought through the at you sorry, yes

4459
03:28:02,440 --> 03:28:06,760
Speaker 1: John Green? The brawl? Yeah, did you squash the beat

4460
03:28:07,400 --> 03:28:14,280
Speaker 1: before you won the championship? All after? Because because you think, like,

4461
03:28:14,800 --> 03:28:16,560
Speaker 1: was that good karma coming back to you? Like you

4462
03:28:16,760 --> 03:28:19,959
Speaker 1: reaching out to him and you're development in a relationship

4463
03:28:20,000 --> 03:28:21,520
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you win the champ

4464
03:28:21,600 --> 03:28:22,720
Speaker 1: Then you win the championship.

4465
03:28:22,760 --> 03:28:25,040
Speaker 5: You think that was good karma? What do you do?

4466
03:28:25,160 --> 03:28:25,720
Speaker 1: Am I asking?

4467
03:28:27,360 --> 03:28:31,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta let you ask your question. I've seen Nori,

4468
03:28:31,800 --> 03:28:34,080
Speaker 4: and please remind me of his question. Please, I just

4469
03:28:34,120 --> 03:28:35,800
Speaker 4: wanna say something. So I've seen nor when he first

4470
03:28:35,840 --> 03:28:36,400
Speaker 4: started the show.

4471
03:28:36,920 --> 03:28:37,720
Speaker 1: I got a pain.

4472
03:28:41,680 --> 03:28:44,720
Speaker 4: And and then Noor will always cut people off, and

4473
03:28:44,959 --> 03:28:47,400
Speaker 4: I was and I was like, why don't always turn

4474
03:28:47,480 --> 03:28:51,480
Speaker 4: people off? Right, I'm like, so, I'm like, why is

4475
03:28:51,520 --> 03:28:53,800
Speaker 4: this jump you off? But I'm trying to pay attention.

4476
03:28:54,240 --> 03:28:55,200
Speaker 4: So I said, oh, he's trying to.

4477
03:28:55,240 --> 03:28:58,600
Speaker 5: Keep the show. Said, He's trying to keep the show moving.

4478
03:28:59,080 --> 03:29:02,080
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yes, I'm watching the show,

4479
03:29:03,320 --> 03:29:03,680
Speaker 5: you know.

4480
03:29:03,800 --> 03:29:07,320
Speaker 1: But but but but do you think that because because

4481
03:29:07,360 --> 03:29:09,680
Speaker 1: because when you squashed the beef with the dude, the

4482
03:29:09,760 --> 03:29:13,840
Speaker 1: one that through the beer, that was before you won

4483
03:29:13,920 --> 03:29:14,520
Speaker 1: a championship.

4484
03:29:14,600 --> 03:29:19,640
Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, So what happened was shot Yeah, yeah, yeah,

4485
03:29:20,440 --> 03:29:21,480
Speaker 4: I wanted.

4486
03:29:26,640 --> 03:29:29,680
Speaker 5: Because because I want to go get it again.

4487
03:29:31,320 --> 03:29:43,160
Speaker 1: This my kill. Cure, that's the killer, get your life.

4488
03:29:43,560 --> 03:29:48,840
Speaker 1: So so you think that square, you take that, You

4489
03:29:48,959 --> 03:29:53,760
Speaker 1: think that I got to do? You think that you

4490
03:29:53,920 --> 03:29:57,520
Speaker 1: squashing the beef for him it was good, calm up

4491
03:29:57,560 --> 03:29:59,360
Speaker 1: because you run a championship.

4492
03:29:59,480 --> 03:30:01,600
Speaker 4: So what happened was I already knew I was trying

4493
03:30:01,640 --> 03:30:02,920
Speaker 4: to do all this positive stuff.

4494
03:30:03,000 --> 03:30:03,879
Speaker 1: Okay, so.

4495
03:30:05,520 --> 03:30:13,840
Speaker 4: Classic, oh yeah yeah, Pink Carter. So for me, it

4496
03:30:13,959 --> 03:30:17,560
Speaker 4: was like, there wasn't the career I envisioned when I

4497
03:30:17,640 --> 03:30:23,480
Speaker 4: knew I was gonna prove. So now to answer your question, yeah,

4498
03:30:24,640 --> 03:30:25,119
Speaker 4: the question.

4499
03:30:25,240 --> 03:30:25,880
Speaker 1: It was the album.

4500
03:30:28,200 --> 03:30:30,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, like do you think Washington was that good call?

4501
03:30:30,920 --> 03:30:32,200
Speaker 5: And that led to you, Well what.

4502
03:30:32,280 --> 03:30:34,640
Speaker 4: Happened was like during that time, people were trying to

4503
03:30:34,640 --> 03:30:36,880
Speaker 4: make it white black, Like I'm just trying to do

4504
03:30:37,000 --> 03:30:39,720
Speaker 4: business and I'm just trying to do philanthropy. So now

4505
03:30:39,800 --> 03:30:42,960
Speaker 4: I got this drama with some dude that then you

4506
03:30:43,000 --> 03:30:43,800
Speaker 4: got a whole nother story.

4507
03:30:43,840 --> 03:30:45,040
Speaker 11: That's so many stories.

4508
03:30:45,879 --> 03:30:48,640
Speaker 4: I'm escaping Ben Wallace, who's my guy? Shout at Ben

4509
03:30:49,720 --> 03:30:52,800
Speaker 4: and you know he's upset. But when I went to Ben,

4510
03:30:53,240 --> 03:30:55,400
Speaker 4: I'm the sucker actually because when I went to him,

4511
03:30:55,400 --> 03:30:57,640
Speaker 4: you'll see say so I said, sorry, I'm gonna admit it.

4512
03:30:58,160 --> 03:30:59,920
Speaker 4: I didn't want no problem with Big Ben.

4513
03:31:00,280 --> 03:31:00,680
Speaker 10: You know what I mean.

4514
03:31:00,720 --> 03:31:02,360
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not afraid that he's like Charles look

4515
03:31:02,480 --> 03:31:04,680
Speaker 4: like I would have problem with Ben Wallace Wallace.

4516
03:31:04,959 --> 03:31:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm afraid. I'm too sixty five, like

4517
03:31:08,680 --> 03:31:09,480
Speaker 1: I want a problem back.

4518
03:31:09,600 --> 03:31:12,039
Speaker 4: So you'll see me go like this. I mean to say,

4519
03:31:12,080 --> 03:31:14,160
Speaker 4: like sorry, but I ain't even doing that. But honestly

4520
03:31:14,240 --> 03:31:17,320
Speaker 4: it wasn't a hard fell So then so then that happened,

4521
03:31:17,720 --> 03:31:20,760
Speaker 4: and then the brawl takes off. So now you know,

4522
03:31:20,879 --> 03:31:23,040
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm trying to escape. So I'm laying on

4523
03:31:23,040 --> 03:31:26,160
Speaker 4: a scorers table. I said, okay at some point, but

4524
03:31:26,280 --> 03:31:27,200
Speaker 4: at that point he was wrong.

4525
03:31:27,600 --> 03:31:30,360
Speaker 11: Huh, at that point you was wrong wrong, laying on

4526
03:31:30,520 --> 03:31:31,600
Speaker 11: top of the scores table.

4527
03:31:31,920 --> 03:31:33,520
Speaker 4: Listen you listen, listen to that.

4528
03:31:34,959 --> 03:31:35,600
Speaker 1: It's very cool.

4529
03:31:36,240 --> 03:31:36,480
Speaker 11: Ship.

4530
03:31:37,440 --> 03:31:43,520
Speaker 4: Yeah trying. That's not no ship. It's okay, but very important.

4531
03:31:43,800 --> 03:31:46,640
Speaker 4: It's the way we view life, right, and that was

4532
03:31:46,800 --> 03:31:50,960
Speaker 4: view like that. You see what I'm saying. I don't

4533
03:31:50,959 --> 03:31:52,200
Speaker 4: think I would later if I if I wanted to

4534
03:31:52,240 --> 03:31:54,160
Speaker 4: get it pop out, will get it poping. I'm laying

4535
03:31:54,160 --> 03:31:54,760
Speaker 4: on a scoring saved.

4536
03:31:54,760 --> 03:32:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to chill. I do it and hitting.

4537
03:32:03,240 --> 03:32:05,240
Speaker 4: Y'all don't know what's going through my head. I don't

4538
03:32:05,280 --> 03:32:06,680
Speaker 4: know what was going through y'all head.

4539
03:32:07,720 --> 03:32:09,280
Speaker 1: But people with cherish thev on, I.

4540
03:32:09,320 --> 03:32:12,440
Speaker 4: Don't cheer it on. I lost the Cason, another Defensive

4541
03:32:12,440 --> 03:32:16,080
Speaker 4: Player of the Year, and another All Star and another whatever.

4542
03:32:16,280 --> 03:32:20,400
Speaker 4: Just count up just money, so definitely such something. When

4543
03:32:20,400 --> 03:32:24,120
Speaker 4: that happened years later, I was Sacramento. We told that

4544
03:32:24,160 --> 03:32:30,080
Speaker 4: whole story. I still was depressed because of this thing.

4545
03:32:30,800 --> 03:32:32,520
Speaker 4: So when you look at the Lakers Championship, the first

4546
03:32:32,520 --> 03:32:33,240
Speaker 4: thing I did was thank the.

4547
03:32:33,280 --> 03:32:34,480
Speaker 11: Pacers, you know what I mean.

4548
03:32:35,160 --> 03:32:37,480
Speaker 4: And you look at the interview. You got to see

4549
03:32:37,520 --> 03:32:40,400
Speaker 4: it online. Yo, shout out to the paces because I

4550
03:32:40,440 --> 03:32:42,440
Speaker 4: always wanted to win the championship, so I ain't feel

4551
03:32:42,760 --> 03:32:43,600
Speaker 4: I had to let them know.

4552
03:32:44,440 --> 03:32:46,440
Speaker 1: You my guys, you know what I mean.

4553
03:32:47,240 --> 03:32:51,320
Speaker 4: Suching with John Green something to jump here with John Green,

4554
03:32:51,360 --> 03:32:53,160
Speaker 4: it was like I was still depressed, and I said,

4555
03:32:53,160 --> 03:32:56,000
Speaker 4: I need to stop having so much resentment because everybody's

4556
03:32:56,000 --> 03:32:56,560
Speaker 4: saying they hate me.

4557
03:32:56,600 --> 03:32:57,120
Speaker 1: It's on TV.

4558
03:32:57,240 --> 03:32:59,320
Speaker 4: Everybody's saying they hate you. Like what you hate me too.

4559
03:32:59,320 --> 03:33:02,480
Speaker 4: I won't even know I think you hate it. It's

4560
03:33:02,480 --> 03:33:04,840
Speaker 4: like it's just crazy right right, which is a fight.

4561
03:33:04,879 --> 03:33:07,160
Speaker 4: It's like it's somebody I'm used to fighting the game

4562
03:33:07,240 --> 03:33:09,720
Speaker 4: over that ship, you know what I mean. I saw

4563
03:33:11,040 --> 03:33:14,600
Speaker 4: I saw, I saw, I saw Lady Drugs. I was

4564
03:33:14,720 --> 03:33:16,720
Speaker 4: right there and told I saw lad Street Drugs. They

4565
03:33:16,800 --> 03:33:20,200
Speaker 4: both their time, Like my god, I was dear right.

4566
03:33:20,280 --> 03:33:22,520
Speaker 4: So it's like I'm used to and their friends. So

4567
03:33:22,640 --> 03:33:24,400
Speaker 4: with John Green, I'm like, hold on, I don't got

4568
03:33:24,480 --> 03:33:26,920
Speaker 4: that much drama as everybody's saying. With this guy, we

4569
03:33:27,040 --> 03:33:29,360
Speaker 4: had to fight, you know what I mean. I don't

4570
03:33:29,400 --> 03:33:34,640
Speaker 4: hate all everybody. So anyway, we became tight a dude

4571
03:33:34,640 --> 03:33:38,360
Speaker 4: who lost me fifty whatever you want to name it.

4572
03:33:39,000 --> 03:33:41,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what to name this. I'm not holding

4573
03:33:41,959 --> 03:33:43,480
Speaker 1: over me and you were having to fight.

4574
03:33:43,560 --> 03:33:46,240
Speaker 4: But all the people, you guy, you the people who

4575
03:33:46,680 --> 03:33:48,000
Speaker 4: made certain decisions like get.

4576
03:33:47,920 --> 03:33:48,200
Speaker 1: To know me.

4577
03:33:48,240 --> 03:33:50,080
Speaker 4: You don't even know me, right, you know what I mean?

4578
03:33:50,200 --> 03:33:52,440
Speaker 4: So for now, But then I also said earlier that

4579
03:33:52,560 --> 03:33:54,720
Speaker 4: I think they made the right decision because because of

4580
03:33:54,760 --> 03:33:57,480
Speaker 4: what happened. But but I wanted to say, and then

4581
03:33:57,480 --> 03:33:59,760
Speaker 4: people tried to make it a race for it was

4582
03:33:59,840 --> 03:34:03,040
Speaker 4: what it was, media headlines, something off the backs. To me,

4583
03:34:03,440 --> 03:34:06,440
Speaker 4: we ain't about to get white versus black to get

4584
03:34:06,480 --> 03:34:12,039
Speaker 4: one together, right, I don't have a problem. Yes, it's

4585
03:34:12,080 --> 03:34:14,520
Speaker 4: that the John Green, and this is how me and

4586
03:34:14,680 --> 03:34:16,880
Speaker 4: John became friends. You should have us on your show.

4587
03:34:17,280 --> 03:34:18,040
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

4588
03:34:20,520 --> 03:34:22,560
Speaker 4: But check it out as I'm doing as I'm the

4589
03:34:22,640 --> 03:34:26,520
Speaker 4: first athlete entertainer to do a podcast. Right, If you

4590
03:34:26,560 --> 03:34:31,440
Speaker 4: look at the years. That content is cool? How is

4591
03:34:31,480 --> 03:34:34,760
Speaker 4: that content not cool because it's not your because it's

4592
03:34:34,760 --> 03:34:36,720
Speaker 4: not where you want a program today. So anyway, I

4593
03:34:36,760 --> 03:34:40,200
Speaker 4: see my got newy. This is a great opportunity to

4594
03:34:40,320 --> 03:34:42,400
Speaker 4: talk about that. That's dope content.

4595
03:34:44,280 --> 03:34:44,320
Speaker 1: Me.

4596
03:34:45,280 --> 03:34:47,680
Speaker 4: But why do you not wanting to meet John Green

4597
03:34:47,680 --> 03:34:50,320
Speaker 4: and Ben Waller's talk about the bro that's for its history.

4598
03:34:50,400 --> 03:34:51,600
Speaker 11: That's your chance.

4599
03:35:06,360 --> 03:35:07,360
Speaker 1: But we can chill, we can chill.

4600
03:35:07,400 --> 03:35:07,840
Speaker 11: We can tell you.

4601
03:35:10,120 --> 03:35:12,480
Speaker 1: I ain't yeah yeah.

4602
03:35:15,480 --> 03:35:17,160
Speaker 5: Drives, and then we can tell you.

4603
03:35:20,520 --> 03:35:23,760
Speaker 3: Who's Drink Champs is a Drink Champs ll C production

4604
03:35:24,120 --> 03:35:27,080
Speaker 3: hosts and executive producers n O r E and d

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03:35:27,280 --> 03:35:30,280
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4606
03:35:30,360 --> 03:35:35,320
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4607
03:35:36,400 --> 03:35:38,840
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs

4608
03:35:38,920 --> 03:35:41,280
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm