WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: It Was A Good Day

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>The I gotta say it was a good day. Addition,

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<v Speaker 2>sorry bad cold strained voice you know singing this week,

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<v Speaker 2>as we look back at a memorable day in the Jungles,

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday's dramatic overtime win over the Vikings coming up, radio replays,

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<v Speaker 2>locker room comments and postgame analysis from Dave Lappum. Then

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<v Speaker 2>in this week's fun Facts Conversation, the incredible life story

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<v Speaker 2>of Bengals tight ends coach James Casey. The Bengals Booth

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<v Speaker 2>by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>thing since the Coffin Nails banner. As Evan McPherson's game

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<v Speaker 2>winning field goal is flying toward the goalpost. On Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>fans in the end zone unfurled a banner right between

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<v Speaker 2>the uprights that said coffin nails a nod to what

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Lapham and I usually say after the play that

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<v Speaker 2>clinches of Bengals win. It was much appreciated and more

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<v Speaker 2>proof that Bengals fans are the best and have made

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<v Speaker 2>the Jungle one of the loudest and toughest environments for

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<v Speaker 2>visiting teams in the NFL. Now time for radio replays

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<v Speaker 2>from an incredible come from behind win over Minnesota. With

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<v Speaker 2>four games left in the regular season, nearly forty percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the AFC has a record of seven and six

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<v Speaker 2>six out of sixteen teams, the Bengals are one of them,

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<v Speaker 2>and chances are only two of those six will make

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes today's.

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<v Speaker 2>Home game against the Minnesota Vikings critical and it is

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<v Speaker 2>time for the pig skin to fly. Here in the Jungle.

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<v Speaker 2>Browning throwing it deep for Jamar Chase. He's got it

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<v Speaker 2>as he makes an arms extended catch before going out

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<v Speaker 2>of bounds at the twenty yard line.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what that's an unbelievable throw because Jake

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<v Speaker 3>Browning got blown up.

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<v Speaker 2>Robbins with his right knee on the field turf. He

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<v Speaker 2>catches the long snap, puts the ball down. The kick

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<v Speaker 2>is knocked through by Evan McPherson, and the Bengals score

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<v Speaker 2>on their opening possession.

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<v Speaker 1>To take a three to nothing lead.

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<v Speaker 2>Trips out to the left, Hockinson out to the right,

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<v Speaker 2>Mullins looking throwing, intercepted at the goal line.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Hilton running it back.

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<v Speaker 2>He stumbles and goes down at the seventy yard line.

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<v Speaker 2>Have the Bengals get a red zone takeaway? Three receivers left,

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<v Speaker 2>one out to the right. Mullins has the ball, He's

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<v Speaker 2>looking left. Here comes the rush. Mullets sacked by beaj Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>The ball comes out.

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<v Speaker 2>Have the Bengals recover with twenty seconds left in the half.

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<v Speaker 3>He came up with the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>They were all about two takeaways in the red zone

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<v Speaker 2>in the second quarter.

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<v Speaker 3>Unreal.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's standing up here in the jungle. Third down and

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<v Speaker 2>nine from the Cincinnati thirty eight. Nick Mullens clapping his hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati sends five Bullins in trouble pros caught by Annison.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody left to tackle him. He will streak down the

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<v Speaker 2>field and go into the end zone for a thirty

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<v Speaker 2>eight yard touchdown.

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<v Speaker 3>DJ Turner went for the deflection. He left his feet.

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<v Speaker 3>He went to make a play on the football, and

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<v Speaker 3>when he could not make a play on the football,

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<v Speaker 3>it was over.

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<v Speaker 2>Browning back to throw his pass for Higgins in the

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<v Speaker 2>end zone. Touchdown Bengals. A perfect throw from Jake Browning

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<v Speaker 2>and an over the shoulder catch for t Higgins for

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals touchdown.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't mess around. First down in the red zone, go

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<v Speaker 3>for the gusto.

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<v Speaker 2>Browning drops back to throw four come after him. Browning

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<v Speaker 2>fires down the fields, caught by Chase. He's got a

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<v Speaker 2>first down at the nineteen a Minnesota shake. Browning putting

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<v Speaker 2>it right on the money for Jamar Chase. Browning's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be in the shotgun. Joe Mixon to his right.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody bunched in tight. They handed to Mixon. He gets hit,

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<v Speaker 2>tries to go in a double effort and does. The

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<v Speaker 2>second effort gets the Bengals a touchdown as Joe Mixon

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<v Speaker 2>spikes the ball triumphantly after taking it in. He got

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<v Speaker 2>hit by Ivan Pace in between the one and the

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<v Speaker 2>two bounced off him, kept fighting and got in.

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<v Speaker 3>He was not gonna be denied.

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<v Speaker 2>Mullins sends another receiver in motion he will look to throw. Mullins,

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<v Speaker 2>standing now rolling to the right, being chased toward the sideline,

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<v Speaker 2>throws it into the end zone, caught by Addison for

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<v Speaker 2>the touchdown, and the Vikings have the lead with three

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty eight seconds left in regulation.

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<v Speaker 2>On second and ten, Browning, scrambling right in trouble, throws

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<v Speaker 2>it off his back foot toward the end zone. T

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<v Speaker 2>Higgins wins a jump ball for the football, hits a touchdown,

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<v Speaker 2>an incredible catch by T. Higgins, and the Bengals have

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<v Speaker 2>scored with thirty nine seconds to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe what T Higgins just did.

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<v Speaker 3>Unreal. I mean Jake Browning to put it in the

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<v Speaker 3>area and then Higgins catches it at the one and

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<v Speaker 3>just throws it back without losing control of it. He

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<v Speaker 3>just swoops his arm over his head and the ball

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<v Speaker 3>crosses the goal line and the Bengals get a tying touchdown.

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<v Speaker 2>Can the Bengals stop Minnesota on fourth down in about

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<v Speaker 2>two inches in over time, which at the forty one

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<v Speaker 2>yard line.

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<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't you love to have DJ Reader in there for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Mullins will be under center, Chandler lined up behind him.

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<v Speaker 2>The Vikings try the bush. The Bengals appear to have

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<v Speaker 2>stopped in Cincinnati. Got a great search up front.

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<v Speaker 1>Head.

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<v Speaker 2>Looks like the Vikings lost yardage going for the touch push.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see about the spot. It all comes down to

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<v Speaker 2>the spot.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I'll tell you they got off the ball faster

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<v Speaker 3>than the offensive lineman did. I mean they get off

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<v Speaker 3>That defensive charge was unbelievable, I thought, man, is that

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<v Speaker 3>on side?

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<v Speaker 4>And it was?

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<v Speaker 2>The Bengals will take over at their own forty two

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<v Speaker 2>yard line on incredible job by the defense.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the first time all year Minnesota has been stopped

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<v Speaker 3>on fourth and one, and it was fourth in a

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<v Speaker 3>nature two.

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<v Speaker 1>The Vikings showing pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>Here comes the Blants, Browning looking scrambling to the right,

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<v Speaker 2>Browning throwing down field. It is Cod Tyler Boyd still

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<v Speaker 2>on his feet. He's at the twenty. He will be

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<v Speaker 2>brought down inside the fifteen. He's tackled at the thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>An incredible throw in a narrow window by Jake Browning.

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler Boyd made the catch. Stayed on his feet. The

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals convert on third down and nine, and now they

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<v Speaker 2>are well within the field goal range of Evan McPherson.

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<v Speaker 2>This will be from twenty nine yards away from straightaway,

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<v Speaker 2>shorter than an extra point. Looking for the seventh walk

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<v Speaker 2>off field goal of his NFL career and his second

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<v Speaker 2>in a span of three weeks. Robbin's ready to hold

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<v Speaker 2>the snap, the placement, the right footed kick. Oh, it

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<v Speaker 2>is good, and the Bengals are still alive in the

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<v Speaker 2>playoff hut as they rally from a fourteen point deficit

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<v Speaker 2>in the fourth corner and beat them Minnesota Vikings in

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<v Speaker 2>over time twenty seven to twenty four. Now let's hear

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<v Speaker 2>from head coach Zach Taylor, who spent a few minutes

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<v Speaker 2>with Lap after the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I've been saying it in the locker room the

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<v Speaker 3>whole time here, as the legendary Jim Volvano said, don't

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<v Speaker 3>give up, don't ever give up. I mean, that's this

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<v Speaker 3>football team. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I love these guys. You know, they just find a

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<v Speaker 5>way to overcome the adversity. There's a lot of diversity

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<v Speaker 5>in that game. I never panicked down fourteen points. Things

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<v Speaker 5>weren't going great. We weren't in great rhythm on offense

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<v Speaker 5>at first, and then on defense eventually, and then everybody

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<v Speaker 5>just came together and found a way to get it done.

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<v Speaker 3>Just to tick off, you know, I mean, just to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, there were plays to be made and take

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<v Speaker 3>advantage of and just couldn't quite make them in the

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<v Speaker 3>first half. But to come from behind twenty one points

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<v Speaker 3>scored in the fourth quarter against that defensive football team,

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<v Speaker 3>that's pretty remarkable.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just proud of our guys, proud of the coaches

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<v Speaker 5>for the play that they prepare. That starts with Brian Callahan.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought he did a great job this week steering

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<v Speaker 5>that ship and guys believing in it. And again, just

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes it takes some time. You're playing a good defense.

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<v Speaker 3>It's tough.

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<v Speaker 5>It's an orthodox defense, and so it's not gonna be

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<v Speaker 5>perfect the whole game, and just got to hang in

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<v Speaker 5>there and find your moments, and our guys did.

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<v Speaker 3>What does it take to go against defense like that?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, obviously, patients, you know it's not going to

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<v Speaker 3>always go the way you think, But I mean, what's

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest thing to attack in the defense like that?

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<v Speaker 3>That's so unorthodox?

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<v Speaker 5>I think just patients and try to stay one step ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>They throw a lot at you, so it can be

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<v Speaker 5>difficult to do. It starts with the quarterback not being

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<v Speaker 5>overwhelmed by all the different looks you can get, and

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<v Speaker 5>Jake did not. He was not overwhelmed. He did a

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<v Speaker 5>great job managing it. The guys around him did a

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<v Speaker 5>great job managing it. And I'll us to be successful.

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<v Speaker 3>Through for over three hundred yards, I think hit at

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<v Speaker 3>least eleven different receivers. I mean, he's he's tripping the

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<v Speaker 3>ball very very well, isn't he. He's done a great job.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, he blongs in this league and he's proven

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<v Speaker 5>that every week and he's proven it to this locker

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<v Speaker 5>room for a long time now. That's why he's gotten

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<v Speaker 5>the opportunity he has, and I'm really proud of him.

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<v Speaker 3>The touchdown run that Joe Mixon had was jaw dropping

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<v Speaker 3>to me. I'm like, dude, that's I mean, you talk

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<v Speaker 3>about second third effort.

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<v Speaker 5>Huge fourth down, got to get in. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 5>a game changing play right there. And he did it

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<v Speaker 5>very similar last week and he did again this week.

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<v Speaker 3>So they were five for five on fourth and one

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<v Speaker 3>coming into the football game. Fourth and one. You score

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<v Speaker 3>a touchdown fourth and two inches, they lose three inches.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that ended up being a big deciding factor

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<v Speaker 3>in the football game. Fourth down in a scoch Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I saw our guys get a tremendous push on that

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<v Speaker 5>fourth down, you know, at the end of the game

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<v Speaker 5>to get him stopped, and it looked like he bobbled

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<v Speaker 5>a snap because of it. And so again, it was

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<v Speaker 5>very similar to when we beat Minnesota a couple of

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<v Speaker 5>years ago. Got a defensive stop at the same field

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<v Speaker 5>in overtime, gave the offense the ball, hit one big play,

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<v Speaker 5>and then Evan seals it for us.

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<v Speaker 3>Same score. Okay, I think it was yeah score. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>pretty sure, man, I'll tell you so. I know. I know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one week at a time. Can you celebrate for

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<v Speaker 3>a while. Can you go home and celebrate this game

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<v Speaker 3>for a while. You're going right to Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 4>I can go home and relax.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 5>We're done with football for today. We'll pick up tomorrow morning,

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<v Speaker 5>you know. And it's a normal seven day week for once.

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<v Speaker 5>We haven't had a seven day week and since last year.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you know what you've done keeping this football

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<v Speaker 3>team fresh down the stretch is paying off once again.

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<v Speaker 3>But coach Man, what was the deal with the injury? Gods?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they took some took some shots at us today.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way it works.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, sometimes it's gonna happen like that and we're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna have to have other guys step up, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it is tough to see, you know, a key player,

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<v Speaker 5>especially like DJ Reader go down and hopefully hopefully it

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't get us elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate your time, A full week of preparation for the

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<v Speaker 3>Pittsburgh Steelers. They're in trouble. Appreciate you. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bengals have leap fraud the Steelers and climb to

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<v Speaker 2>the number six playoff seed in the AFC seven teams

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<v Speaker 2>get in. Cincinnati is currently at two and a half

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<v Speaker 2>point favorite for Saturday's game in Pittsburgh. Now time for

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<v Speaker 2>the radio guy's recap lap. That was an amazing, memorable game.

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<v Speaker 2>So many key plays that the Bengals absolutely had to

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<v Speaker 2>make and made to get out of here with an

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<v Speaker 2>overtime win.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in the first half they had things, opportunity knocked

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<v Speaker 3>and they didn't answer. They didn't make the plays in

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<v Speaker 3>the second half, particularly.

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<v Speaker 2>The fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 3>They made every play they could possibly make, and some

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<v Speaker 3>of them were acrobatic, phenomenal, just crazy plays to make,

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<v Speaker 3>and they made every single one of them. And you

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<v Speaker 3>score twenty one points in the fourth quarter against Brian

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<v Speaker 3>Flor's defense the way they're playing, that's mind boggling stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>Jake Browning was incredible in the second half. He threw

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<v Speaker 2>for nearly three hundred yards in the second half, I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously made so many plays where he had to

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<v Speaker 2>extend the play, avoid the rush, find somebody open downfield,

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<v Speaker 2>and deliver the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the gold star on the forehead play of

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<v Speaker 3>what you're describing was the one that Tyler Boyd to

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<v Speaker 3>basically set the game winning field goal up. Tyler Boyd's

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<v Speaker 3>on the left side of the formation outside the numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>When the play starts and Jake gets out of pocket,

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<v Speaker 3>he has to create an extent and Tyler Boyd scrambled

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<v Speaker 3>drill and Jake Browning on the run throws right between

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<v Speaker 3>two defenders into the arms of Tyler Boyd for a

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<v Speaker 3>huge play. That's hard to do. That's hard to be

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<v Speaker 3>that accurate with that kind of touch and timing on

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<v Speaker 3>the run like that, and he I think he's always

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<v Speaker 3>been a pretty good thrower of the football on the run.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we know how T.

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<v Speaker 2>Higgins held the ball, swirled it behind his back, held

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<v Speaker 2>onto the ball and got it over to the pylon

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<v Speaker 2>on that one touchdown?

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<v Speaker 3>When you think about it, think of all the things

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<v Speaker 3>that had to go through his mind in just instance,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean just a milliseconds to be aware,

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<v Speaker 3>catch it, I'm in bounds, Stay in bounds and take

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<v Speaker 3>that ball and just you know, make the arc over

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<v Speaker 3>my head to break the plane inside the pylon. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's just uh, that's football awareness, football savvy. H

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<v Speaker 3>And he's he's such a gifted athlete. I mean his size,

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<v Speaker 3>speed ratio, is ability to run routes, contested catch, strong hands.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he checks a ton of boxes. There's no question.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we know who deserves credit for the fourth down?

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<v Speaker 2>Stop? You o? T?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean BJ Hill? I think he. I think he

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<v Speaker 3>was low, Zach Carter was hot. They both came off

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<v Speaker 3>the ball like a banchie. I mean the interior that

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<v Speaker 3>defensive line just did a heck of a job. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was kidding bj Hill after the game, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>what about linebacker. Man, the hands you have, you got

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<v Speaker 3>two interceptions. There's defensive backs in the league that have

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<v Speaker 3>played a lot of snaps that don't have one man

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<v Speaker 3>they're all they're all waiting for their first interceptions of

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<v Speaker 3>the season, and you're racking them up. He said, what

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<v Speaker 3>ever takes? I mean, he said, I told you I

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<v Speaker 3>was an athlete. He is. I mean, he's he's a

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<v Speaker 3>good athlete.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight and six, three to go. They're obviously very much

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<v Speaker 2>alive in the playoff race, but with lots of work

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<v Speaker 2>still to do.

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<v Speaker 3>No doubt, lots of work to do. They get a

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<v Speaker 3>chance now to sit back and watch the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in their in their contest, so you can

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<v Speaker 3>get a jump on preparation, you know, for that football game,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, not not studying it like you would

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<v Speaker 3>you know, on a normal work day. But it's never easy.

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<v Speaker 3>I can tell you for a fact, going to Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 3>and playing the Steelers is never an easy task, no

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<v Speaker 3>matter what the stakes, what the circumstances. But they've proven

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<v Speaker 3>themselves to be human. I mean, the last the last

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<v Speaker 3>two home games to lose. The teams that they lost

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<v Speaker 3>to very very Unsteeler like I mean, Mike Tomlin must

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<v Speaker 3>be beside himself.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of interesting to watch Jake Browning in this

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<v Speaker 2>game because he couldn't do some of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>have worked so well the last couple of weeks. They

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get a hunt plus rushing yards. They didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of big playsoff screen passes. He kind of

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<v Speaker 2>had to be Burrow like and find open receivers under

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<v Speaker 2>pressure and deliver good throws.

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<v Speaker 3>He did. I mean he had to. He had to

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<v Speaker 3>put his nose to the grindstone, you know, in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, he had to create an extent when

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<v Speaker 3>he could throw on time. He had to throw on

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<v Speaker 3>time and hit spots. And he did. He hit tight spots.

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<v Speaker 3>He played an outstanding football game. This guy is legit.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there is no doubt, you know, Zach started laughing.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, you know, honestly, he goes, Jake Brownie did

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<v Speaker 3>a phenomenal job. He said, you know, really, you can't

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<v Speaker 3>ask for much more when we were talking after the game. So,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he is. He's basically turned his career down

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<v Speaker 3>a totally different path. There is no question about it.

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<v Speaker 3>And couldn't couldn't happen to a better guy and a

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<v Speaker 3>guy that's you know, works his tail off to get

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<v Speaker 3>that opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>The win came with a hefty price. We saw DJ

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<v Speaker 2>Reader leave the locker room on crush, which is with

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<v Speaker 2>a big bulky brace on his right knee, the heart

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<v Speaker 2>and soul of the defensive line, one of the team

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<v Speaker 2>leaders on this team. And that's a very significant loss.

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<v Speaker 3>No question it is. I mean, ask when he's asking

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<v Speaker 3>Zach about that, he said, we don't have any final

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<v Speaker 3>determinations yet, but that one does not look good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he's realistic about it. I mean, he realizes

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<v Speaker 3>that the DJ season is probably over. Dj Ivy he's

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<v Speaker 3>not optimistic about either with his knee injury. And then,

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<v Speaker 3>of course the reaction that dj Ivy had. Whenever I

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<v Speaker 3>see grown men, tough guys, you know, in tears, it's

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<v Speaker 3>telling you that something bad happened that's jeopardizing their opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>ability to play. So those two injuries were you know,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously massive.

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday Number one was successful. Bring on the Steelers next

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday in Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 3>Bring on the Steelers and Joe Mixon that touchdown run

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<v Speaker 3>my man. Talk about inspirational. That was a gutsy run

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<v Speaker 3>run like that in Pittsburgh, Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>it's time for this week's fun facts conversation. Normally this

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<v Speaker 2>segment is no more than fifteen minutes long. This week

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<v Speaker 2>I spent thirty eight minutes with a Bengals coach with

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<v Speaker 2>a remarkable story to tell. Time for some fun facts

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<v Speaker 2>with Tight Ends coach James Casey. Born and raised in Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>not far from fort Worth. Were you a city kid

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<v Speaker 2>or a country kid?

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<v Speaker 4>Country kid?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm from Azle, Texas outside of Fort Worth, and like

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<v Speaker 6>you know, being from Texas and everybody thinks DFW Dallas

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<v Speaker 6>Footworth area.

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<v Speaker 4>But for it's way different than use It's not. It's

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<v Speaker 4>more rural. It was a decent sized city. But I'm

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<v Speaker 4>definitely a country guy.

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<v Speaker 6>I got I bought some land in Texas, so when

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<v Speaker 6>I got opportunities my a little bit of free time.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I like getting out in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you miss when you're away the.

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<v Speaker 6>I miss just the people, the hospitality, Like it is different,

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<v Speaker 6>Like you know, you know, everybody knows people from Texas

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<v Speaker 6>and how prideful they are of their state and and

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<v Speaker 6>it's it's it's valid. I mean, there's it's you grow

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<v Speaker 6>up there and you have pride in your state and

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<v Speaker 6>and just used to that southern hospitality. And I mean

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<v Speaker 6>Cincinnati has been awesome, Like Cincinnati's kind of it reminds

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<v Speaker 6>me of a little bit of Texas. So I'm really

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<v Speaker 6>glad I get the coach here in a great city

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<v Speaker 6>like this, Like the people here are are similar, like

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<v Speaker 6>just you know, down to earth people that are you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm used to, like, you know, the old school like

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<v Speaker 6>opening doors for people, saying, you know, please, thank you,

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<v Speaker 6>you're welcome, yes, ma'am, no, ma'am, yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess that's kind of like the Texas stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm trying to raise my kids like that too,

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<v Speaker 6>and they I mean, it's it's strange, but sometimes that

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<v Speaker 6>you know, people are not used to that, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>they almost feel like they're mocking them or something. It's like, no,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just I'm just trying to be polite and I'm

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<v Speaker 6>trying to be There's the reason why they're called the

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<v Speaker 6>magic words, because it you know, you treat people nice,

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<v Speaker 6>treat respect, you're not mocking them. Like over time, I

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<v Speaker 6>think they understand that, you know, we're not trying to

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I say yes sir a lot and people say,

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<v Speaker 6>don't call me sir, like they're mad at me.

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<v Speaker 4>I know they're just kind of playing around by.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just trying to be respectful, you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>trying to be you know, be I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 6>be mean or you don't make money or anything.

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<v Speaker 4>Just that's just how I am.

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<v Speaker 2>So James, this segment is called fun Facts, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>really your life story in ten to fifteen minutes, and

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<v Speaker 2>your life story includes heartbreak and a devastating loss. Your

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<v Speaker 2>mom passed away in a fire when you were sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>years old. I can't imagine the fear, I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 2>the trauma. How did you get through it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I never talked about it just because it's

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<v Speaker 6>bad emotionally, bad feelings and bad memories. But you know,

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<v Speaker 6>it's also if I do get a chance to speak

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<v Speaker 6>to kids or something, because you know, everybody deals with tragedies,

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<v Speaker 6>and some bigger than others, and you know, losing your

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<v Speaker 6>mom is a pretty big one. And in a trailer.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I didn't grow up any money. I grew

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<v Speaker 6>up really poor and in Asil And I was at

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<v Speaker 6>school one day and they came and got me and

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<v Speaker 6>said my trailer burned down and my mom was inside.

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<v Speaker 6>So I mean I lost everything. So it was, uh,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, devastating.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course I didn't have.

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<v Speaker 6>The only I had was like backpack that I was,

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<v Speaker 6>that I was wearing, the clothes I was wearing that day,

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<v Speaker 6>and then my mom was gone. But so I mean

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<v Speaker 6>I was, of course, you know, devastated. The biggest thing

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<v Speaker 6>that got me over it was you know, it took

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<v Speaker 6>you know, like maybe like a week week later, just

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<v Speaker 6>you know, feeling sorry for myself, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 6>down to the dumps, which happens.

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<v Speaker 4>To a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, you deal with something like that, and a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of people, you know, turned to drugs or they

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<v Speaker 6>just turned just giving up and not caring. But eventually

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<v Speaker 6>came I had like a kind of like epiphany or

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<v Speaker 6>like awareness to say, like, well, my mom would not

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<v Speaker 6>have wanted me to just feel sorry for myself and

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<v Speaker 6>be moping around and and you know, making bad grades

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<v Speaker 6>in school and not trying in sports. So I just said,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, she would have wanted me to you know,

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<v Speaker 6>that happened. It's it's it's there's nothing can change about it.

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<v Speaker 6>So the only thing I could do is, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>try to make the best of whatever I can do

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<v Speaker 6>and make her proud. So you know, I really just said,

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<v Speaker 6>you know what, she would want me to do great

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<v Speaker 6>things and be good. And so after that happened, I

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<v Speaker 6>really picked it up even more so like my work ethic,

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<v Speaker 6>my my school, my sports, I just try to be

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<v Speaker 6>wanted to try to be the best just to just

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<v Speaker 6>because that's how I feel like you should do things

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<v Speaker 6>like try to maximize everything, all your potentials, and it's

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<v Speaker 6>like you don't want to let people down.

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<v Speaker 4>And so once.

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<v Speaker 6>I've realized that, and I had a ton of support

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<v Speaker 6>from the city, like azel text, like I had, I

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<v Speaker 6>had people buying me clothes, you know, I had there

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<v Speaker 6>was a guy that got me a truck, like you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I ended up having nicer things afterwards, I mean, a

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<v Speaker 6>terrible situation, but I had a lot of people around

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<v Speaker 6>me the helping me. And you know, my wife, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm married high school sweethearts. We've been married in seventeen years,

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<v Speaker 6>so she came along ride for that. And like anything

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<v Speaker 6>in life, you need a lot of people helping you,

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<v Speaker 6>no matter how hard you work.

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<v Speaker 4>And I had a lot of people around me helping me.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you learn about the inherent goodness of people through that?

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<v Speaker 4>I did. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I learned about how how you know, we were speaking

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<v Speaker 6>of texts earlier, just how people there are, like genuinely

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<v Speaker 6>good people out there that are they don't want anything

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<v Speaker 6>in return, They're just they just want to help, especially

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<v Speaker 6>when you're young, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>But I also learned that.

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<v Speaker 6>You have to show you have to show some initiative

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<v Speaker 6>and some addition ambition first for people to help you.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, if I would have been a kid that

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't making I was making terrible grades, or I wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>trying hard in sports, I don't think I would.

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<v Speaker 4>Have had as much help. But everybody in the community,

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<v Speaker 4>like knew that I was.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I made straight a's in school before that,

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<v Speaker 6>and I was I was good in sports.

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<v Speaker 4>I worked hard, I was tough.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think all the people that knew me and

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<v Speaker 6>knew my situation, they knew I was a kid that

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<v Speaker 6>like wanted to do well, and they knew I wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>like normal kids stuff. But I wasn't. I wasn't a

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<v Speaker 6>kid that was like, you know, trying to be disrespectful

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<v Speaker 6>all the time. So I think because because how I

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<v Speaker 6>was beforehand, that they knew I was like work.

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<v Speaker 4>I was a hard worker.

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<v Speaker 6>I did things. I tried to do things the right way.

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<v Speaker 6>So then I had a whole bunch of help because

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<v Speaker 6>of that. And then and they didn't want anything to

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<v Speaker 6>return there. You know, I had people that would, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>give me stuff and I didn't even know where.

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<v Speaker 4>It was coming from, and.

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<v Speaker 6>And not still just you know, if I wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 6>all that help, like who knows what I could have done.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, there's a lot of people in those same

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<v Speaker 6>circumstances where it goes you know, probably the majority of

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<v Speaker 6>people in those same circumstances where it goes downhill.

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<v Speaker 4>In her life.

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<v Speaker 6>But because I had all those people helping me it,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I just used it as motivation.

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<v Speaker 4>I still do to this day.

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<v Speaker 6>Just trying to never want to let people down and

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<v Speaker 6>trying to achieve is you know, do the best I

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<v Speaker 6>can and achieve great things.

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<v Speaker 2>We're visiting the tight Ends coach James Casey. You were

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<v Speaker 2>a hard throwing pitcher as a kid. You got drafted

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<v Speaker 2>by the White Sox right out of high school and

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<v Speaker 2>spent four years in pro baseball, playing in places like Bristol,

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<v Speaker 2>Virginia and Great Falls, Montana. How would you describe the experience.

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<v Speaker 6>It was an unbelievable, valuable experience for me, like coming

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<v Speaker 6>out of high school in Azel, you know, dealing with

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<v Speaker 6>the story you just heard about my mom and having

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<v Speaker 6>even before that happened, and you know, I lived in

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<v Speaker 6>like really bad trailer. We had roaches, like we just

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<v Speaker 6>we didn't have a lot of money. So I grew

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<v Speaker 6>up real poor. And then I got drafted in baseball

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<v Speaker 6>in the seventh round. So I'm thinking I'm going to

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<v Speaker 6>the big leagues. I'm going to be an All Star.

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<v Speaker 6>And I was. I was talented. I mean I had

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<v Speaker 6>the potential to, but I didn't have the mindset. You know,

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 6>I was eighteen years old and never even really been

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<v Speaker 6>out of the city. And then I go play minor

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<v Speaker 6>League Baseball, and I'm traveling around on buses and the

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<v Speaker 6>minor leaguers don't make any money whatsoever. I had a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit of a signing bonus, but you know, I

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<v Speaker 6>thought I was rich at that time. But I think

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<v Speaker 6>my signing bonus was one hundred and twenty thousand, which

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<v Speaker 6>to me, it was like, I'm rich, you know, but

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<v Speaker 6>you know, big picture wise, that's not that's not going

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<v Speaker 6>to sustain me for my whole life. But I learned,

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<v Speaker 6>like it was a great experience getting to meet a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of different people. Being a professional athlete eighteen years old,

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<v Speaker 6>I learned a lot of valuable lessons. And then once

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<v Speaker 6>I got fired in baseball because I couldn't throw strikes

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<v Speaker 6>and I just I didn't have like any training as

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<v Speaker 6>a kid, so that was my only training.

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<v Speaker 4>It was professional.

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<v Speaker 6>And I've heard the two worst players, and I would

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<v Speaker 6>believe in the two worst players you can coach or

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<v Speaker 6>that are the players that don't do anything you say,

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<v Speaker 6>and then the player that does everything you say, like exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>I was. I was the kid that did everything they said.

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<v Speaker 6>Exactly, which you know, sometimes you know, coaches are great sometimes,

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<v Speaker 6>but sometimes coaches say some things that are more like,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, maybe it doesn't fit you as well, and

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<v Speaker 6>you got to you know, be respectful, but say you

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<v Speaker 6>know that that's not gonna work for me that well,

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<v Speaker 6>like I need to, I need to stick with some

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:18.359
<v Speaker 6>of the stuff that got me here. So when I

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 6>when I got fired from baseball, and that's probably be

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<v Speaker 6>the next question, but I really took a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>valuable lessons about you know, like not and I was

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<v Speaker 6>worried about what everybody else was doing. Like so once

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 6>I let once that happened, I was like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>worried about what anybody else is doing.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm not.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not, you know, I'm rooting for everybody. There's more

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<v Speaker 6>than enough to go around for everybody, because when you're

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 6>in baseball, it's so individual. I caught myself like, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>want you know, like if somebody's out there pitching, I

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<v Speaker 6>was like, if they were doing well, I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 6>if he's doing well, he's gonna get called up.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm not, which is a terrible mindset.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>I should have been rooting for that guy and trying

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<v Speaker 6>to like learn learn things as much as I could

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<v Speaker 6>and and just not taking a lot of craft from people,

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<v Speaker 6>not being disrespectful, but also like being confident, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>Like I just learned how to be confident and make

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<v Speaker 6>sure I had no regrets on anything else I did.

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<v Speaker 6>So after I got fired in baseball, it's like I've

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 6>not had any regrets. Nobody's out working me. I'm always

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:11.640
<v Speaker 6>going to be the guy that works hard on everybody else.

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<v Speaker 6>And because I'm if if like it's NFL coaching, if

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<v Speaker 6>it didn't work out, I'm still gonna hold my head

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<v Speaker 6>up because I know I'm doing everything I possibly can

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<v Speaker 6>to be a great coach and to help the tight

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<v Speaker 6>ends as much as I can.

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<v Speaker 2>You use the term fired as opposed to cut or released.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a reason?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't like to, you know, I'm pretty like

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<v Speaker 6>blunt with things like I don't like to sugarcoat things

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:38.959
<v Speaker 6>like I mean, it's just my own personal thing, like

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 6>like when I was playing the NFL, Like I didn't

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 6>retire from the NFL. I got fired and then nobody

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 6>else hire me, Like I don't. I'm not trying to

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 6>like make myself feel better of anything. It's like, you know,

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:50.639
<v Speaker 6>that's just part of life, you got, you know, and

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 6>it just like keeps me motivated. Because you don't want

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:55.199
<v Speaker 6>to get fired. And I've been fired multiple times, been

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:59.159
<v Speaker 6>fireding baseball and even even playing it. Playing football, I

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 6>got fired a couple of times, and then coaching, I've

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 6>already been you know, a couple of spots. And I

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.360
<v Speaker 6>just don't, you know, like I know some people say

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 6>that they got released or and it's you know, it's

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:10.919
<v Speaker 6>just semantics. But I just want to make you know.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know why it is. But she's like, I

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<v Speaker 6>just don't want to.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to. I'm trying. I always how to be.

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<v Speaker 6>Humble and and I think sometimes just being open about

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:21.399
<v Speaker 6>what really is happening, I think it helps other people

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 6>sometimes be more like you know, sometimes bad things happen

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:26.439
<v Speaker 6>and you move on and make the best of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So after four years of minor league baseball, when you

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 2>realize you're not going to the big leagues, what were

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 2>your options in your own mind?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I had my my I got married at

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 6>twenty one to my high school sweetheart and we've been

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 6>married seventeen years, be eighteen years in December, and so

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 6>I got so we got married, and then two weeks

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 6>later I got fired in baseball.

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 4>So I'm like, oh, man, like, you know, hopefully she

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't leave me.

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 6>She she didn't likely, but my mindset was, I know,

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 6>I knew I was going to go to college.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I was.

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<v Speaker 6>I was willing to get you know, I got drafted

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 6>high school, so I was willing to go play minor

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 6>league Baseball's because I knew, worst case scenario, I get fired,

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 6>I'm still going to go to college and graduate and

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 6>get a degree, and you know, you go into the

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 6>workforce and you know, make money and have a job,

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 6>have a career. I knew I was gonna do that.

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 6>I knew I was just enough to do that. So

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 6>after I got done with baseball, I was like, well,

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 6>I know I'm gonna go to college, and I know

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 6>I'm like an athletic guy. I've always worked out hard

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 6>and I've always been in good shape. I was a

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 6>good high school football player. I just got hurt my

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 6>senior year. I had two surgeries my senior on my

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 6>knee during the season, and I still played the last game.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why I tell the tit ends a lot of times,

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<v Speaker 6>like just to like it's about toughness, lesson and I

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<v Speaker 6>and I saw guys that played that I played with

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 6>in high school that went on to play college football,

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 6>and I was like, well, if I know I'm gonna

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 6>go to college, I have all my eligibility left, so

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 6>why not play football like I'm I was just you know,

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 6>we were talking before about just self efficacy, just a

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 6>lot of belief in myself that, you know, and just

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 6>watching watching when I was playing minorleagu baseball, just watching

0:29:58.040 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 6>college football and be like I I could do that

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 6>if I if I if baseball didn't work out. So

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 6>I was like, okay, I'm gonna I want to I'm

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 6>going to go to college, so you know I'm gonna

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 6>play football too.

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 4>So and nobody was contacted me. Obviously.

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 6>It's been you know, I've been in high school like

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 6>four years and I didn't really have any film. But

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 6>another adage like you know, you you know, you gotta

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 6>you always need help regardless what you're doing, and it

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 6>doesn't hurt to ask, you know. So the only way

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:22.479
<v Speaker 6>you can get information out to college is like just

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:24.479
<v Speaker 6>to send them things to go talk to them and

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 6>call them. And so I filled out like every questionnaire

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 6>from any college in Texas and out of state. I

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 6>sent like these this envelope full of my information and

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 6>and just silly stuff like I took a picture my

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 6>wife took a picture of myself in my tights, and

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 6>I thought it was douchey, but but I saw I

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 6>was just watching TV and I saw in the combine

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 6>they do it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was like, well, and I knew I was

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 4>like as a baseball player.

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 6>So a lot of these college coaches are probably gonna

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 6>think I'm, you know, out of shape person or like

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 6>real skinny guys. So like I need a showing I'm

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 6>in good shape. And that's really what got me the opportunity. Long,

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 6>long story, but so I I just send that information

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 6>everywhere because I was going to go to college and

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 6>I was gonna see, well, if I'm gonna go, maybe

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 6>I can get a I didn't even know how scholarships work,

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 6>but I was like, maybe I can get a ten

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 6>percent scholarship or something.

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 4>I didn't even.

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<v Speaker 6>Realize it was like full scholarships until I got the

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 6>scholarship and I went to I went to junior colleges, Tarleton,

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 6>I went to everywhere, and no one was They were like, yeah,

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 6>we'd love for you to walk on, which is understandable

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 6>because I hadn't played in four years and I really

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 6>and I was on like a triple option offense. But long,

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 6>long story, but Rice took a chance on me and

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 6>gave me a scholarship to play defense, and I was

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 6>I jumped on it like right away and I didn't

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 6>and realizing it was a full scholarship and Rice's unbelievable university.

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 2>And so on.

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 6>You know, Once that happened, my life kind of really

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 6>like took a one eighty right there.

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 4>Like I was like, okay, I.

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:46.479
<v Speaker 6>Got an opportunity, and I was like, I am, this

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 6>is not going to pass me by. And I was

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 6>like a mad man in college, like in a good way,

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 6>but I was.

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 4>I was.

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 6>All I did was football in school, like just NonStop,

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 6>and I worked out and it led to like successful

0:31:58.320 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 6>the field, and then I got opportunity to play.

0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Then did your teammates even really get to know you

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 2>considering how focused you were?

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.959
<v Speaker 6>No, I mean justin Hill, our running best coach was

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 6>the same year as me in college, and you know, now,

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 6>you know, we've known each other since college and we've

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 6>talked and we stayed in connections. But I was, I

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 6>didn't go out with the team at all. I didn't

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 6>go at any parties. I didn't, but I was also

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 6>you know, I was I wasn't like being a jerk

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 6>to anybody, and I was just doing my job and

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 6>trying to help any wherever I could. And I just

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 6>so focused on just winning. I wanted to win, you know,

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 6>and I wanted to be the best I could possibly be.

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 6>That I think and credits, I mean, unbelievable just experience

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 6>at Rice, because everybody there, they didn't treat I was

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 6>day one, I was oldest on the team, and I

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 6>was the only married gall on the team, like the

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 6>first day I got on campus on football, on the

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 6>football team, and they just they didn't treat me any differently.

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 6>And I was twenty three, I think my freshman year married,

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 6>you know, like I'm not.

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm just I wasn't. I was kind of and with what.

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 6>Happened to my mom with getting fired in baseball. So

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 6>I was a mature twenty three year old, like I

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 6>was they you know, I was kind of almost acting

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 6>like I am now a little bit.

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 4>I was more as a thirty nine year old.

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 6>You know, you get mature as you get older and

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 6>you kind of start understanding what's important. So I was

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 6>a mature person like I was basically a professional football

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 6>player playing in college, and but they were they were

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 6>They respected me, they didn't treat men differently, and and

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 6>you know, even though I didn't hang out with them

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 6>off the field, they still they still knew I cared,

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 6>and they knew I was working hard and I was

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 6>trying to help whatever way I could, and and I

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 6>eventually started doing well on the field. So then then

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 6>doing great on the field makes everything better. So then

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 6>they all just accepted me. And it was and I

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 6>still stand, you know, contact with a lot of those players.

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 6>And then I played with at Rice and it was

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 6>a you know, it really just an amazing experience. I

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 6>went in the Hall of Fame at Rice this last

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 6>this offseason or really before he played the forty nine ers,

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 6>and I was one of the most memorable experiences I've had,

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 6>getting around my former teammates and coaches and and just

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 6>thinking back to it, because you know, it's hard to

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 6>reminisce in life sometimes because you're just focused on the

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 6>next step. But when something like that happens, getting into

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 6>the Hall of Fame of your college, you kind of

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 6>you can't help, but like thinking back, and it really

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 6>just like just unbelievable memories of getting going from baseball

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 6>to college football. I only played there two years, my

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 6>true freshman, true sophomore year, and just what I was

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 6>able to accomplish in those two years is really it's

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:25.839
<v Speaker 6>just amazing it. But it wouldn't happen if I didn't have,

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 6>like everything, a lot of great people around me. I

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:29.800
<v Speaker 6>had a lot, like a lot of great help, a

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:33.800
<v Speaker 6>lot of great teachers, coaches, you know, teammates that were

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:36.720
<v Speaker 6>at Rice and at Azel and at you know, everywhere,

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 6>And I've just had great people around me and great

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 6>coaches around me to help me, and I've kind of

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 6>just been really blessed to be in great situations.

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 2>You got moved from defense to offense at Rice and

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 2>had two tremendous seasons your final year one hundred and

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 2>eleven catches for more than thirteen hundred yards, fifty seven

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 2>rushes for two hundred and forty one more. You're listed

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.359
<v Speaker 2>as a tight end. But how would you describe your

0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 2>position at Rice?

0:34:59.160 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was.

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's a long story about how I kind

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:04.839
<v Speaker 6>of got in those situations. But I started off as

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 6>a linebacker and then the second day they moved me

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 6>to a defensive end. So I played defensive end the

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 6>whole spring, and because I got there in the spring

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 6>and I was probably gonna be the starting defensive end,

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 6>but I kept staying after practice each spring practice and

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 6>like playing catch to show the coaches that I could

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 6>throw really well. Because when I was trying to recruit

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 6>myself to college, I was I was trying to be

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.240
<v Speaker 6>a quarterback, because you know, obviously I drafted in baseball.

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 6>It's a picittuer like I could throw the ball. I

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 6>could throw the ball well, and and I just kept

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 6>kind of showing them like I was. I wasn't being disrespectful.

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 6>I was like, hey, I think I was just being honest,

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:37.319
<v Speaker 6>like I'm not I can play defense, and I think

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 6>I would have been a really good defensive player. But

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 6>I was like, I think I could help this team

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 6>better if I w on offense, Like if that's what

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:42.879
<v Speaker 6>I've done my whole life.

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 4>I've always been you know, even.

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 6>When I was a little kid, I was like the

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 6>running back or and so I was trying to show

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 6>them that I think I could help on offense, and

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 6>they eventually moved me to quarterback. So I went from

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 6>defensive end all spring, and then after spring they moved

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 6>me to the quarterback position during the some so the

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:02.839
<v Speaker 6>whole team was like, what are you were just playing defense, Sven,

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 6>now you're the quarterback.

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 4>Like it's just you know, it never happens like that.

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 6>But and because the way that happened too, I just

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 6>kept showing them I could throw being respectful. And then

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 6>they would have seven on seven tournaments during the or

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 6>games during the summer, and they'd be working on their

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 6>stuff and I'd always just go out with the offense

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 6>and just kind of just stand there and watch and

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:23.400
<v Speaker 6>try to learn. And a couple of times the running

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.840
<v Speaker 6>back didn't show up so he had school or something,

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 6>so they would just put.

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 4>Me in there.

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 6>And even though it's a defensive end, I'd play some

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 6>running back for our offense during seven on seven stuff,

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 6>and I just kind of got around those guys and

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 6>just almost still doing defensive men stuff. And then eventually

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 6>the coaching staff, you know, gave me an opportunity to

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 6>do so when we came back from fall camp, I

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:42.399
<v Speaker 6>moved to quarterback. And then we had some receivers get

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 6>hurt in training camp, so the backup quarterbacks are the

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:47.799
<v Speaker 6>only ones that knew all the offense, you know, like

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 6>halfway through training camp, so they're like, hey, we need

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 6>you guys to go out there and.

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 4>Do some receiver stuff.

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 6>So then I showed up at practice doing receiver stuff

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 6>and the team was like, now you're doing receivers.

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:57.840
<v Speaker 4>You have a defense simended quarterback to receiver.

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 6>And I did a really good job at receiver and

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 6>the receivers coach started liking what I was doing, so

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:04.720
<v Speaker 6>then he you know, I was kind of like bouncing

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 6>back and forth from positions. And I still stayed in

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 6>the quarterback room the whole time there, and I would

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 6>learn the quarterback stuff. But we had a great quarterback,

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.879
<v Speaker 6>Chase Clement, who I mean his senior year he threw

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 6>forty four touchdowns seven interceptions, and he was really good,

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:19.760
<v Speaker 6>so that, you know, they didn't need me at quarterbacks

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:21.879
<v Speaker 6>how good he was. But they started getting me more

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 6>involved at at receiver, and then I started doing wildcat

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:28.320
<v Speaker 6>quarterback stuff. And then they just kind of started evolving

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 6>where I started doing all kinds of stuff like and

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 6>they I mean, credit to them. That's the advantages of

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 6>being in a place like rights. They gave me a

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 6>lot of opportunities to do a bunch of different stuff.

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.400
<v Speaker 6>And the main reason why, I think because I was

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 6>willing to do it, and mainly is because of the

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:43.799
<v Speaker 6>baseball didn't work out. So I was like, this is

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 6>not I don't care what I gotta do. I returned

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 6>punts just because I was like, I can do this.

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 6>But we had a guy, you know, that wasn't doing

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 6>a great job pumper turning. I just started going back there.

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 6>I started catching the punt, and eventually they just let

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 6>me do in games. So I started being the pumper turner.

0:37:57.640 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 6>I was a holder on field goal. I was like

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Speaker 6>backup punter, backup snapper. I played, you know, wildcat, quarterback

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 6>of punch. I played a little bit of tight end.

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:08.320
<v Speaker 6>I really didn't even do tight end much. But I

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 6>played receiver. You know, I just played everywhere just because

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 6>I wanted to win so bad. I wanted to make

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 6>sure this opportunity was not gonna pass me by. And

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 6>and I wasn't afraid, and I wasn't scared. I wasn't

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:21.399
<v Speaker 6>I believed in myself. I believed I could help, and

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 6>so any opportunity I jumped at it, no matter what

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:26.280
<v Speaker 6>it was. And eventually they started put me in the games,

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 6>and then I started doing great job in the game

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:30.359
<v Speaker 6>and it just kind of took off from there.

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:33.799
<v Speaker 2>You turned pro after two years at Rice and were

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:36.280
<v Speaker 2>drafted in the fifth round by the Houston Texans. After

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 2>all you had been through. What was it like to

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:39.879
<v Speaker 2>get that phone call?

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I was pissed at the time, because I

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 6>was very confident that. I mean, I had one hundred

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 6>and eleven catches and like thirteen or yards, and I

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 6>had like you know, you know, I carried the ball

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 6>as a runner and you know, in the wildcat quarterback

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 6>and I played running back to a little bit. So

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:56.439
<v Speaker 6>like I feel like I had like an amazing year

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.319
<v Speaker 6>in college football. I was only that true sophomore, and

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 6>I looked a right, I'm watching around college football and

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:03.840
<v Speaker 6>I'm you know, everybody does when you go into the draft,

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 6>you know, you go to the combine, You're looking to

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 6>see who all the other tight ends are, and I'm like,

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 6>I'm very confident that I'm better than a lot of

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 6>those guys. But the draft comes and I'm getting, you know,

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:15.920
<v Speaker 6>I don't know where I have, which number of tight

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 6>end I was drafted, But the Texans drafted a tight

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:22.160
<v Speaker 6>end in the fourth round that same year. And once

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:24.360
<v Speaker 6>they did that, I was like, this is unbelievable. It's like,

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:25.319
<v Speaker 6>what else do I got to do?

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 6>Like I did everything. I knew everything a new quarterback,

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 6>I knew running back, a new receiver. I played every position,

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 6>I played punt returns like that. Obviously I'm showing that

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 6>I'm a good player and I'm a value I can

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 6>do something for your NFL team. But I didn't get draft,

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 6>you know, and I see now as NFL coach because

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 6>I really didn't get to play tight end in college,

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:45.360
<v Speaker 6>so I didn't really show them that. And I couldn't

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 6>play any All Star games because I was underclassman, so

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:49.800
<v Speaker 6>they had a lot of questions on me if I

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 6>could block or not. So I was and then they

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 6>the Texans drafted a guy and I lived like a

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:57.360
<v Speaker 6>mile from the stadium at the time because I was

0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 6>going to college at Rice, right next to the right

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 6>run in Houston.

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 4>So I was mad.

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 6>I was like, man, what is going on? But so

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 6>they drafted got a fourth round. Then they drafted me

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 6>in the fifth round. So then I was like, okay,

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 6>I got drafted. I was mad because I'll believe to

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.520
<v Speaker 6>myself but I was still extremely grateful just to you know,

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 6>like I got drafted in baseball and then football, so

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:18.879
<v Speaker 6>I was, you know, it's like I'm entitled or anything.

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:21.279
<v Speaker 6>I was just you know, mad at that I you know,

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 6>I wasn't valued as much as what you know, I

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 6>thought I was.

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:26.840
<v Speaker 4>But day one, you know, I couldn't. I enjoyed it

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:27.439
<v Speaker 4>for like a day.

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 6>But then I was like, I'm a fifth round pick

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 6>and they drafted their fourth round tight end. It's like

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 6>for me to make this team is going to be

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 6>really difficult. And being an older you know guy, I

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:38.240
<v Speaker 6>was like, I understand, like getting drafted doesn't me anything.

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 6>You know, you got to get on the fifty three

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 6>minute roster. I'm not a first round pick.

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm not. I got to make the team.

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 6>So I was just dead set on and I never

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:46.879
<v Speaker 6>even played tight end really, so I had to show

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 6>that I could play tight end. So I had to learn,

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:50.880
<v Speaker 6>you know, like I didn't really I never even got

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:52.239
<v Speaker 6>a three point stances in college. I had to learn

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 6>how to get into three point stands. I had to

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 6>learn how to block.

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:55.840
<v Speaker 4>I had to show that I was tough because I

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:57.759
<v Speaker 4>was a pass catcher in college. I didn't block a lot.

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 6>And that's what I'm really most proud of about NFL wise,

0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:03.320
<v Speaker 6>is that I came in as a you know, I

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 6>caught one hundred eleven passes.

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:05.439
<v Speaker 4>I'm a pass catcher guy.

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 6>But then you know, after my career Kep, you know,

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 6>after the first couple of years, then I was more.

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:12.400
<v Speaker 6>I transitioned more like a blocker guy. I played fullback,

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 6>played special teams. So I completely changed my game because

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:19.400
<v Speaker 6>I learned early on in training camp that first, you know,

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 6>that first week, you know, like they're not They're not

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 6>throwing me the ball, Like I'm not catching the ball.

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:26.840
<v Speaker 6>Here we got Andre Johnson, we got we know, we

0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 6>got all these really good players, Like I'm not going

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 6>to catch the ball. So I'm like, I need to

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 6>find ways to make myself valuable. So I was like,

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:36.440
<v Speaker 6>I gotta be special teams was number one. I's like,

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 6>I got to be show that I'm tough and I

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 6>can play special teams. And then I got I got

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 6>to show I can play full back, I could be tough,

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:42.319
<v Speaker 6>I can do a lot of different things so I

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 6>can make the team. And kind of like Drew does

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 6>for us a little bit, like he does all kinds

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:48.800
<v Speaker 6>of stuff. He just shows that he's valuable and helps

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 6>the team out in a lot of ways that are

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 6>like that. People don't realize, but in the football team,

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:55.879
<v Speaker 6>the coaches and the players, they realize how important those

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 6>things are. And I mean, it was amazing that I

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:00.920
<v Speaker 6>got you know, I was. I did enjoy it, you know,

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 6>I was like this unbelievable. I got drafted in football.

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:05.240
<v Speaker 6>And my wife didn't even know I was good at football,

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 6>you know, like going into Rice. She she we started

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 6>dating as a junior, and you know, I kind of

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 6>got hurt. I didn't really play a lot of football

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 6>and I didn't really even get recruited in college, which

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 6>is I don't know how I didn't. I don't know

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:19.759
<v Speaker 6>what these what those recruiters are doing. But so and

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 6>then when I told her when I got fired in baseball,

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 6>I told her I was gonna play college football. She

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:24.759
<v Speaker 6>you know, she was great with it, but I'm sure

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 6>in her mind she was like, Okay, well I hope this.

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:28.279
<v Speaker 6>And then all of a sudden, I'm great and I

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 6>go to the NFL and she's like, I'm like, I

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 6>see howney, you need to believe me.

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes I am pretty good.

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 2>So you lasted seven years in the NFL with Houston,

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:41.279
<v Speaker 2>Philly and Denver. What did you love most about being

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 2>an NFL player?

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:45.919
<v Speaker 6>The you know the reason why I'm coaching. I love

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 6>the I love everything about football. I mean it is

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 6>to me, it's like one of the greatest things on

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 6>earth is that you get all these different people together

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 6>and it's a true team sport where everybody, you know,

0:42:57.680 --> 0:42:59.919
<v Speaker 6>on offense, we get eleven guys out there, All eleven

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 6>those guys got to do their job and got to

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 6>be If one guy doesn't do it right, that could

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 6>completely kill the play. And there's so much strategy that

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 6>goes into it that, you know, I wish some of

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:12.320
<v Speaker 6>the fans and people could see how much goes into

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 6>like the past protection stuff, how much goes into the

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 6>run game stuff, and the different you know angles the

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 6>defensive ends are playing, and how the linebackers play and

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 6>special teams.

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 4>What kind of return are they doing? Like who's going

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 4>to be blocking me? What kind of guy is that?

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Is?

0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 2>He?

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 4>Big? Big guys? He quick?

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:28.839
<v Speaker 6>Like there's just so much strategy involved and there and

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 6>it's like you can you get you get it, you

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 6>can get out what you put in in football, if

0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 6>you're tough and you're physical, and you have technique and

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 6>you and you know what you're doing, you play hard

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:41.240
<v Speaker 6>and you can make yourself a good player.

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 4>And it's it's a lot of like correlations to life.

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 6>You know, there's a lot you can everybody's got to

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 6>work together and you can you get out what you

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:50.880
<v Speaker 6>put in. So I just love the entire game of football.

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:53.719
<v Speaker 6>So I that's why I got into coaching. I just

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 6>loved everything about it, like just the locker room, the teammates,

0:43:57.280 --> 0:43:59.359
<v Speaker 6>like doing doing you know, you do a really good

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 6>job on a play and everybody's congratulating you because you

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:04.400
<v Speaker 6>help the team do something good, Like you're helping you know,

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:06.839
<v Speaker 6>you're like Zach talks about a lot, You're you're being

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 6>a part of something that's bigger than just you. You're

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:12.200
<v Speaker 6>fighting adversity together. You're you're tight knit. You go on

0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 6>the road, you know, there's fifty three of us and

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 6>there's you know, maybe seventy thousand of them, and it's

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:20.400
<v Speaker 6>just you against all you against that entire city basically,

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 6>like just the feeling of that and then being at

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 6>home and all the fas you know, your home home crowd,

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 6>everybody's coming. They they you just appreciation of you know,

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:31.280
<v Speaker 6>people can do whatever they want to, you know, throughout

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:32.879
<v Speaker 6>the day. And then on Sunday, a lot of people

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 6>in Cincinnati choose to come to our stadium and watch

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:38.480
<v Speaker 6>us play. They take that out of their day. So

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 6>it's like, you know the fact that they chose to

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 6>come here and watch us play, and and just it

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 6>just it's a special feeling and and you know, for them,

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:49.359
<v Speaker 6>for everybody that comes, like, you know, we put work.

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:52.280
<v Speaker 6>We work hard on what we do, Like we're studying.

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:54.759
<v Speaker 6>We're the tight ends, especially that they got to know

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:57.439
<v Speaker 6>so much stuff. And we're trying to you know, put

0:44:57.440 --> 0:44:58.719
<v Speaker 6>on a show. And we're trying to win. We're trying

0:44:58.719 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 6>to win for the city, we're trying to win for

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.319
<v Speaker 6>each other. We're trying to you know, just anything. We're

0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:04.719
<v Speaker 6>trying to be successful. You want to win anything. You're competitive,

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:07.279
<v Speaker 6>and football is the most competitive NFL for sure, it's

0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 6>the most competitive thing out there. So I love being competitive.

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:12.759
<v Speaker 6>I'm trying to win and I want to try to

0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 6>maximize everything, you know, maximize everything within my human you know, potential.

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 6>And no better way to test yourself than NFL football

0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:21.680
<v Speaker 6>just like your job, you know, like it's it's the

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 6>best of the best. And if you you know, if

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 6>you think you're good, well you got to you got

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 6>to see how good you are, you know, going against

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:28.719
<v Speaker 6>the NFL guys.

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:31.959
<v Speaker 2>Before we started doing this, I gave you a quick

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:34.239
<v Speaker 2>explanation for what we're going to do, and you say, yeah,

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:34.880
<v Speaker 2>that's fine.

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:36.080
<v Speaker 4>But I got to talk about my guys.

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:38.879
<v Speaker 2>What is it about you and your relationship with your

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:40.200
<v Speaker 2>tight end group there?

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 6>I mean I love that I that I'm I mean,

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:45.239
<v Speaker 6>I played tight end, but the fact that I get

0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:46.920
<v Speaker 6>to coach tight ends in the NFL, it's like it's

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 6>it's I wish, I wish like fans and I wish,

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 6>you know, everybody could kind of see how these guys are,

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 6>like how how smart they are, how driven they are,

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:58.719
<v Speaker 6>how how much work they put in, how unselfish they are.

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:01.560
<v Speaker 6>Just they're good people, you know, and you have you

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 6>have to be to be a tight end in the NFL.

0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 4>You got to be you got to be really really smart.

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:08.719
<v Speaker 6>Like there's so much stuff they got to know on

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:10.439
<v Speaker 6>each play, and they got to know everything. They got

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:12.360
<v Speaker 6>to know all the routes, all the run game blocking,

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:15.279
<v Speaker 6>all the pass protection stuff. You've got to be tough

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:17.400
<v Speaker 6>because you're always going against guys that are you know,

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 6>you're going against Miles Garrett and TJ.

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Watt.

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:20.399
<v Speaker 6>You're going to get all these guys and you've got

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:22.319
<v Speaker 6>to be really tough. So you got and you got

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 6>to be versatile. You got to do all these different things,

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:25.920
<v Speaker 6>and you got to be unselfish because you don't get

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 6>a lot of credit for anything. And I talked to

0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:30.280
<v Speaker 6>him all the time about it's like, you know, you can't.

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:32.160
<v Speaker 6>You can't be a type of guy that like needs,

0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:34.840
<v Speaker 6>you know, credit. You know, you just need to do

0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:37.120
<v Speaker 6>your job because you want to do your job because

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 6>you want to win. You're a competitive person. The coaches understand,

0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:43.879
<v Speaker 6>your teammates understand. But you don't need appreciation from any

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:46.160
<v Speaker 6>kind of media or any kind of fans because like,

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:48.279
<v Speaker 6>you're not doing it for that. You're doing it because

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 6>you want to win, because you want to be good

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 6>at what you do and you want to help us,

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 6>you know, be great.

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:53.800
<v Speaker 4>And my guys are unbelievable.

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 6>I mean, all five of my guys in my room

0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:59.279
<v Speaker 6>or they're extremely intelligent, they're extremely tough, they care, they're

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:01.759
<v Speaker 6>good people like you don't you don't see you know,

0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:04.480
<v Speaker 6>hopefully you haven't seen hardly anything from from these tight ends,

0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:05.480
<v Speaker 6>where like they seem like.

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:06.279
<v Speaker 4>They're bad people at all.

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:11.040
<v Speaker 6>They're unbelievable people and they they're like, you know, I'm

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 6>selfish as a tight end coach, but I think tight

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 6>ends are like some of the top notch people in

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:17.759
<v Speaker 6>the world because as far as men go, because they

0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:19.719
<v Speaker 6>got to be you gotta be un selfish, you got

0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 6>to be driven, you gotta be tough. Like if you're

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:24.880
<v Speaker 6>a business and you're a CEO of a business, you know,

0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 6>I would recommend if you need somebody to hire, like

0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:31.320
<v Speaker 6>I would look at tight ends first because they're gonna

0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 6>do a good job. Like all my guys here, any

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 6>if they wanted to do anything else in life, whatever

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 6>they want to do, if if that, if that's what

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 6>they want to do, they they're going to be successful

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 6>at it just because they're they're they're that type of people.

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 6>And they and and we we got to do so

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:44.920
<v Speaker 6>many different things. And there's four of those guys out

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:46.880
<v Speaker 6>there right now playing and they all get opportunities and

0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:50.080
<v Speaker 6>they all do all different things. And and I'm involved

0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:52.560
<v Speaker 6>in everything as far having to coach those guys. But

0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 6>I can't say enough about how just good at people

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:56.719
<v Speaker 6>they are and how hard they work. And like you know,

0:47:56.840 --> 0:47:58.480
<v Speaker 6>true sample all the stuff he does in the pass

0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:01.319
<v Speaker 6>protection and run game and Er Smith, you know, being

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:03.879
<v Speaker 6>unselfish and you know, being a versatile guy.

0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 4>They could do all different things.

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:08.040
<v Speaker 6>And Tannered like coming in from you know, probably nobody

0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:10.160
<v Speaker 6>knew who he was. And now he's making some catches

0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:13.440
<v Speaker 6>and and he works his tail off. And Mitchell Wilcox,

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:16.279
<v Speaker 6>undrafted guy, he's play special teams. He blocks hard, he

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:18.520
<v Speaker 6>played you know, you watch him on film, you know,

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.279
<v Speaker 6>watch him after the snap like he is going after people.

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 4>He's a tough, tough guy.

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 6>And then Zach Zach Gentry, the newer guy we got

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:29.080
<v Speaker 6>from the Steelers. Like he's just on Price Coote right now,

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:30.840
<v Speaker 6>but you don't ever see him, know he's None of

0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:33.279
<v Speaker 6>these guys get any poopoo face. And I feeling sorry

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:35.680
<v Speaker 6>for themselves. They just showed her up to work every day,

0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:38.759
<v Speaker 6>the same guy. And they they they don't give me

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:40.719
<v Speaker 6>a lot of crap. They know I care too though

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 6>that they know I'm not trying to, you know, just

0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:45.560
<v Speaker 6>mf them. For no reason, like I'm I'm trying to

0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 6>help him and that you know, we're working together. So

0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 6>I mean, they're unbelievable people. So hopefully if the fans

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:52.080
<v Speaker 6>out there get a chance they ever see him, you know,

0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:55.160
<v Speaker 6>they would love to talk to you, and media too,

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:57.080
<v Speaker 6>they would love to talk to you, but they don't

0:48:57.080 --> 0:48:58.719
<v Speaker 6>need that, you know, So don't talk to him too much.

0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 6>Don't get him feeling good, film too good about themselves.

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:04.319
<v Speaker 6>They're great people and it's I'm I love each say

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:06.319
<v Speaker 6>coming to work because of the guys that I'm coaching.

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<v Speaker 2>A few wild card topics to wrap things up with

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<v Speaker 2>James Casey, who is your all time favorite athlete in

0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:16.399
<v Speaker 2>any sport? And why No One Ryan?

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:20.600
<v Speaker 6>Just his grit, his longevity, like and he's you know,

0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:22.360
<v Speaker 6>he's the same type of guy he wasn't about you know,

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:25.440
<v Speaker 6>you don't you didn't see No One Ryan like really

0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:28.040
<v Speaker 6>you know, being a humble guy. He wasn't just trying

0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:30.320
<v Speaker 6>to self promote himself. And that's another thing about my

0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:31.919
<v Speaker 6>tight ends too, is like they don't you don't see

0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:34.080
<v Speaker 6>these guys like trying to overly self promote themselves too

0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:36.200
<v Speaker 6>much and they're just about their business.

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:38.719
<v Speaker 4>And they're but knowing Ryan.

0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:41.359
<v Speaker 6>Was just I mean growing up in Fort Worth area

0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:43.239
<v Speaker 6>and when he was playing for the Rangers, like being

0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:46.719
<v Speaker 6>able to like see him and you know that and

0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:49.399
<v Speaker 6>I was a baseball player, like and when he when

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 6>he beat up ron Ventura, like you can't beat that,

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:55.440
<v Speaker 6>Like he's he's he's like the pinnacle for me as

0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:57.840
<v Speaker 6>far as like my guy, I mean, I love all

0:49:57.880 --> 0:50:01.759
<v Speaker 6>I just watched Barry Sanders' documentary, Like I love that

0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:05.200
<v Speaker 6>guy too, just unselfish guy like didn't want credit, didn't

0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:08.720
<v Speaker 6>he like was turning down like chances to like break records,

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 6>just because he didn't want all the attention. He didn't

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:11.920
<v Speaker 6>want it to be about him. He was just about football,

0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:14.640
<v Speaker 6>Like you don't. You don't hear anything about him off

0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:16.120
<v Speaker 6>the field, the kind of things Like guys like that

0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:16.960
<v Speaker 6>are the guys that I love.

0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:20.520
<v Speaker 4>The guys that were great athletes, but they're not like

0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 4>it's not about them.

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:24.520
<v Speaker 6>They just they love they they're great because they love

0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:26.799
<v Speaker 6>the actually they love the sport. They love competing, they

0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:28.520
<v Speaker 6>love like winning, they love being a part of something

0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:31.239
<v Speaker 6>bigger than themselves. Like those are the guys I love,

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:34.719
<v Speaker 6>Like I love watching those guys and just hearing, hearing

0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:36.239
<v Speaker 6>when when those guys speak, those are the guys I

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 6>really want to listen to.

0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:40.560
<v Speaker 2>How do you feel about procrastination?

0:50:41.960 --> 0:50:45.040
<v Speaker 6>I mean, everybody, everybody has it, but I try to

0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 6>be you know, you have to be in coaching tight

0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:49.680
<v Speaker 6>ends that you have to be like on top of stuff.

0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:52.359
<v Speaker 4>But I just try to be really intentional. So I don't.

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:53.800
<v Speaker 4>I hate procrastinating.

0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:58.040
<v Speaker 6>But I also as I've gotten older and a friend

0:50:58.080 --> 0:51:00.640
<v Speaker 6>of mine, at Rice, he gave me a valuable lessening

0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:03.920
<v Speaker 6>about outsource all your non core functions. So I'm like,

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:06.360
<v Speaker 6>I only do like a couple of things. I do

0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:09.640
<v Speaker 6>football in my family and you know, faith, Like that's

0:51:09.680 --> 0:51:10.160
<v Speaker 6>all I do.

0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 4>So I don't. I don't like waste a lot of time.

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:16.120
<v Speaker 6>I'm when I'm driving into work, I'm listening to some

0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 6>kind of audiobook or podcast I'm working out. It's I'm

0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:21.239
<v Speaker 6>always listening to something I'm trying to learn. I'm trying

0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:23.200
<v Speaker 6>to I just want to live like that. I want

0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 6>to try to maximize it. I want to try to

0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:26.160
<v Speaker 6>learn as much as I can. I'm just always curious

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:28.319
<v Speaker 6>about not just football, just everything. I want to learn

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:31.520
<v Speaker 6>things I want to you know, how however long I

0:51:31.520 --> 0:51:32.839
<v Speaker 6>got on this earth, I want to try to learn

0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:34.200
<v Speaker 6>as much as I possibly.

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:36.239
<v Speaker 4>Can and experience as much as I can.

0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:38.839
<v Speaker 6>And I've got two boys now that are that are

0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:40.440
<v Speaker 6>thirteen and ten, so a lot of it is I'm

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 6>trying to learn as much as I can so I

0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:45.480
<v Speaker 6>can help them when they get older, like I try.

0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:47.280
<v Speaker 6>I'm trying to like write a book to my kids,

0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:49.279
<v Speaker 6>just because I realize as a coach, I'm talking to

0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:51.560
<v Speaker 6>my players like all day every day, and I don't

0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:53.160
<v Speaker 6>even get a chance to talk to my kids as much.

0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:55.280
<v Speaker 6>So I like, well, okay, I'm going to start writing

0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:57.640
<v Speaker 6>down everything that I think is important for them, and

0:51:57.640 --> 0:51:58.960
<v Speaker 6>then when they get in high school, I'm going to

0:51:59.040 --> 0:51:59.960
<v Speaker 6>give it to them and say this is what I'm

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:04.280
<v Speaker 6>my beliefs on, you know, like integrity, like my beliefs

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:07.560
<v Speaker 6>on like attitude and respect, my beliefs on kindness, my

0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:10.279
<v Speaker 6>my beliefs on like have an extreme accountability on things

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 6>and how important that is, and having worthwhile goals like

0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:15.000
<v Speaker 6>you know, you can't it's hard to do something if

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:17.120
<v Speaker 6>you're not you know, if you don't know what you

0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:18.440
<v Speaker 6>want to do, Like you got to know what you

0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:19.960
<v Speaker 6>want to do first you got to know and know

0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:21.359
<v Speaker 6>you know, and then you can put all.

0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 4>Your attention towards that.

0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:26.000
<v Speaker 6>And like most things in life, like I don't like

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:28.680
<v Speaker 6>procrastinating because it's just like I just have my mindset

0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:31.240
<v Speaker 6>on one thing and I just try to outlast everybody

0:52:31.280 --> 0:52:32.360
<v Speaker 6>and try to do it hard on nobody else and

0:52:32.360 --> 0:52:33.440
<v Speaker 6>try to outlast everybody.

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:35.239
<v Speaker 4>And that's and.

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:37.000
<v Speaker 6>It's hard for kids. But I'm trying to explain to

0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:38.960
<v Speaker 6>my boys, like you guys need to be thinking every

0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:41.279
<v Speaker 6>day and to the tight ends too, you be thinking

0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:43.280
<v Speaker 6>every day about what you're going to do after football,

0:52:44.000 --> 0:52:45.359
<v Speaker 6>because if you don't know what you want to do,

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:48.560
<v Speaker 6>like you're just going to be randomly just wandering around.

0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:49.000
<v Speaker 4>Like you got to have.

0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:51.200
<v Speaker 6>You need to be exact about what you want to do,

0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:54.040
<v Speaker 6>and then the only thing that's not exact is just

0:52:54.120 --> 0:52:55.400
<v Speaker 6>say or something better.

0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:55.759
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:52:55.800 --> 0:52:57.560
<v Speaker 6>It's like I want to like me, I want to

0:52:57.600 --> 0:52:58.960
<v Speaker 6>be a I want to coach. I want to keep

0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:00.799
<v Speaker 6>rising up. I want to hopefully be a head coach

0:53:00.840 --> 0:53:02.080
<v Speaker 6>one day.

0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:02.959
<v Speaker 4>And I'm not.

0:53:02.840 --> 0:53:05.160
<v Speaker 6>Picking like a specific place, you know, it could be anywhere.

0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:07.640
<v Speaker 6>I just want to get in the you know, reach

0:53:07.640 --> 0:53:09.840
<v Speaker 6>the highest level I can. But I know what I

0:53:09.880 --> 0:53:11.120
<v Speaker 6>want to do, so all my time is spend on

0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:13.720
<v Speaker 6>football and that's it. And then I'm trying to explain

0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:15.959
<v Speaker 6>that to my kids. And I know a long answer

0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:18.800
<v Speaker 6>you aspect procrastination, I'm not a maniact. I mean, I

0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:21.399
<v Speaker 6>procrastin out some things. But when it's like the important things,

0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:23.759
<v Speaker 6>I try to, you know, make sure I'm just try

0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:26.759
<v Speaker 6>to be really really focused and conscious of what I'm

0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:29.799
<v Speaker 6>doing and just get get those things done. But I

0:53:29.880 --> 0:53:31.839
<v Speaker 6>procrastinate all kinds of stuff that's not like the most

0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:32.560
<v Speaker 6>important things to me.

0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Describe the experience of watching your two boys play sports.

0:53:37.440 --> 0:53:38.840
<v Speaker 4>The best experience in the world is that.

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, we go out here and we

0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:45.480
<v Speaker 6>played you know, money not football last last week, and

0:53:46.160 --> 0:53:48.799
<v Speaker 6>you know, it's exciting and it's you know, you're out

0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:50.640
<v Speaker 6>there on money now. You know, millions of people are watching,

0:53:50.719 --> 0:53:53.440
<v Speaker 6>you know, all these celebrities or you know, the announcers

0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:56.160
<v Speaker 6>and all this stuff. But that is nothing compared to

0:53:56.200 --> 0:53:58.880
<v Speaker 6>like going and watching a select baseball game of your

0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:02.759
<v Speaker 6>own kid. You know, you baseball game is of your

0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:05.120
<v Speaker 6>own son, is like a thousand times better than what

0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:07.640
<v Speaker 6>it would be like watching money not football. Even though

0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:09.040
<v Speaker 6>I love the tight ends. I love them, you know,

0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:12.040
<v Speaker 6>like that's that's below it, but it's still way below

0:54:12.080 --> 0:54:15.160
<v Speaker 6>it as opposed to my own kids, like there's that's

0:54:15.400 --> 0:54:18.720
<v Speaker 6>my The biggest thing I look forward to is watching

0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:21.719
<v Speaker 6>them play sports and seeing them grow. And and it's

0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:24.560
<v Speaker 6>stressful too because we know as men, you know, we're

0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:26.879
<v Speaker 6>older men now, we know all the pitfalls that can happen.

0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:28.480
<v Speaker 6>We know all the things that are going through our mind,

0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:30.759
<v Speaker 6>through our life, and the things that we, you know,

0:54:30.840 --> 0:54:32.759
<v Speaker 6>did that was dumb, Like everybody does dumb things.

0:54:32.760 --> 0:54:33.480
<v Speaker 4>We know all those things.

0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 6>We know that they're going to go through that too,

0:54:35.640 --> 0:54:38.279
<v Speaker 6>and you know, I'm just hope they don't do the

0:54:38.360 --> 0:54:42.399
<v Speaker 6>really really dumb things, especially nowadays. We got we hit

0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:44.600
<v Speaker 6>like the World History jackpot because we didn't have cell

0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:47.080
<v Speaker 6>phones and we were kids. We didn't have everybody taking

0:54:47.080 --> 0:54:49.799
<v Speaker 6>pictures of everything. We didn't have social media, so we

0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:51.960
<v Speaker 6>were able to grow mature before that stuff came about.

0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:53.640
<v Speaker 6>So we know, we don't we know not to let

0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:55.479
<v Speaker 6>that ruin our lives. You know, we're not worried about

0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:58.719
<v Speaker 6>likes and who comments on our posts and stuff, but

0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:02.560
<v Speaker 6>their age, that's like their whole life. Like I'm just

0:55:02.600 --> 0:55:05.520
<v Speaker 6>to try to make sure they understand that who cares

0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:08.279
<v Speaker 6>what somebody says on social media? Like who cares what

0:55:08.640 --> 0:55:10.719
<v Speaker 6>some celebrity is doing? Like it's not important, Like it's

0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:14.160
<v Speaker 6>you know, focus on what's really important. But it's stressful,

0:55:14.239 --> 0:55:16.200
<v Speaker 6>but it's the most fun ever is watching the kids

0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:19.040
<v Speaker 6>and watching them play sports, watching you know, watching them

0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:21.399
<v Speaker 6>how they grow and develop, and like seeing their personalities,

0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:24.400
<v Speaker 6>and it's fair. I talked to about tight Ends about

0:55:24.400 --> 0:55:25.759
<v Speaker 6>of the bunch. You know, I catch myself a lot

0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:28.279
<v Speaker 6>of times talking about my own kids, just because, you know,

0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:31.839
<v Speaker 6>I thought, when you're you know, you finally become a dad,

0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:35.279
<v Speaker 6>it's like you're teaching the kids everything and I'm trying

0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:37.080
<v Speaker 6>to but they teach me a lot of stuff too.

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Final question, This one's kind of deep. If you could

0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:45.520
<v Speaker 2>meet anybody in history, living or deceased, who would that

0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:45.960
<v Speaker 2>person be?

0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:49.600
<v Speaker 6>Oh easiest question ever Jesus Christ, for sure. I mean,

0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:52.319
<v Speaker 6>I just I'm thirty nine. I try to be well,

0:55:52.360 --> 0:55:55.840
<v Speaker 6>well thought out about everything, and I wasn't very religious

0:55:55.920 --> 0:55:59.680
<v Speaker 6>until recently till this last off season, where I said, Okay,

0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:01.800
<v Speaker 6>my kids are going to school and they're going to

0:56:02.000 --> 0:56:05.080
<v Speaker 6>Catholic school, and I was like I always believe in

0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:06.919
<v Speaker 6>the Creator because I'm like, no way this just came

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:10.319
<v Speaker 6>about randomly from cells. Like everything's way too order and

0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:12.319
<v Speaker 6>too structured, and there's way too much things that makes

0:56:12.360 --> 0:56:15.040
<v Speaker 6>sense for it to just be random. So I was like,

0:56:15.080 --> 0:56:18.000
<v Speaker 6>I need to learn about this, and I didn't. My

0:56:18.120 --> 0:56:20.719
<v Speaker 6>parents never you know, took me to church. You know,

0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:22.160
<v Speaker 6>I grew up real port we did. That was not

0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:24.680
<v Speaker 6>a part of our life. And so as an adult,

0:56:24.760 --> 0:56:26.279
<v Speaker 6>as an even in high school, it's like I was

0:56:26.280 --> 0:56:28.920
<v Speaker 6>hearing some of things, like for the first time. I

0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:31.560
<v Speaker 6>finally said, Okay, I'm I'm gonna study this. And I've

0:56:31.600 --> 0:56:35.160
<v Speaker 6>read like eight books this off season about Christianity and

0:56:35.200 --> 0:56:39.440
<v Speaker 6>like the very beginning and the economical councils and like

0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:41.000
<v Speaker 6>the history history of it and how it all in

0:56:41.120 --> 0:56:46.160
<v Speaker 6>Apostolic secession, like all the different like the Great Schism

0:56:46.160 --> 0:56:49.080
<v Speaker 6>in ten fifty four, the Process Reformation, the fifteen hundreds,

0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:51.680
<v Speaker 6>when Martin Luther knowed that THESS up against the Catholic

0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:54.400
<v Speaker 6>like I studied it, like knew it, not know it,

0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:57.319
<v Speaker 6>but I studied it. And now I'm a believer, so that,

0:56:57.440 --> 0:56:59.080
<v Speaker 6>you know, I would love to just you know, talk

0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:00.920
<v Speaker 6>to talk to Jesus. You know you can probably give

0:57:00.920 --> 0:57:03.520
<v Speaker 6>me some wisdom on some things and probably calm me

0:57:03.520 --> 0:57:04.719
<v Speaker 6>down a little bit on some things too.

0:57:06.640 --> 0:57:09.120
<v Speaker 2>This has been really enjoyable. I took more of your

0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:11.840
<v Speaker 2>time than I said I would, but I really appreciate

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:13.279
<v Speaker 2>it and best the left the rest of the year.

0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:14.440
<v Speaker 4>Thank you. Have great day.

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