1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the United States 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: are here illegally, your next you will be fined nearly 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported. You will 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: never return. But if you register using our CBP home 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally. 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: Do what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump, America's laws, 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: border and families will. 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: Be protected sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security. 17 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: All right, So now we're going to talk about multiple 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: streams of income. 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 4: That is I mean, I get that question. I'm sure 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 4: you get a bunch I get that. Especially in the 21 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 4: education field. 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: Teachers every day, it's like, Yo, I need to make 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: more money. How am I going to do this? What 24 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: do I do? How are you doing it? I'm like, 25 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: we got something for you. 26 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: Real, we got no multiple streams of income. It's no longer. 27 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: Option. 28 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: It's a necessity. Yeah, in this world that we live in. 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: So we're going if you're a member of e Yo University, 30 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: shouts to all of our e Yo out there students 31 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: that's enrolled. E y l University is the dopest platform 32 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: right now online. It's crazy. We did a whole course. 33 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: We did an our course on multiple streams of income 34 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: that's actually out right now. So we're going to do 35 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: is try to condense this like fifteen minutes. But if 36 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: you want the like full hour version, you can just 37 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: check out earn your Leisure dot com. We also have 38 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: a course on it about how to create a podcast 39 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: with details, product placement, all that. It's dope. It's dope. 40 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, we yeah, this would be like the abbreviated version, 41 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: and if you want the full version, you can just 42 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: check out Eyo University for sure. But so right, when 43 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: it comes down to like having multiple streams of income, right, 44 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: I think it's important to first understand and shout out 45 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 3: to Derek Falcon another one of our legendary episodes that 46 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 3: you don't A lot of times people are under the 47 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 3: misconception that you need like five seven different things because 48 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: they say the average millionaire has anywhere between five to 49 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: seven streams of income. So a lot of times people 50 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: look at that and it becomes like overwhelming because it's 51 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 3: like we're so trained. The average person is just trained 52 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: to work a job to get money. So now it's like, Okay, 53 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: I gotta work seven jobs, or I gotta like create 54 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: seven totally different businesses. So I gotta do like construction, plumbing, 55 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 3: real estate. I gotta be a stock market invest I 56 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 3: gotta do all these different things, and it's like who 57 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 3: has enough time? Right? But one thing I really liked 58 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: about with Derek saiding it really resonated with us, is 59 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 3: that you don't need multiple avenues to create multiple streams 60 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: of income. You just need one lane that you do 61 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: really well and you can create multiple streams of income 62 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 3: off of that one length. 63 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 4: It's like what we said, like we got to build 64 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 4: a foundation. If you think in the sense of a tree, 65 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 4: the tree is gonna be the foundation of what you're 66 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 4: gonna do, right, So like from that, you're just gonna 67 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 4: start building branches from it. 68 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so all right, So yeah, so we're not eve 69 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 3: gonna give you a case study or theory. We're gonna 70 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: give you the real deal Lisia. Yeah, this is easy. 71 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 3: This is just all I mean, this is ours platform 72 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: in blueprint. But I mean, you know, everybody's blueprint is 73 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: gonna be different, but we can just we can speak 74 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: best about what we personally know, right. 75 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: So, and they've been here to see it, so like 76 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: y'all been here watching it. Y'all seen it from January 77 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 4: to now. We're just gonna give you really in detail 78 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: like how this works. 79 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. So the thing with Earn Your Lisia 80 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: is that all right. So Earn Your Lisia started in 81 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: January of twenty nineteen, and it was a podcast, right, 82 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: and it was you know, we started the Instagram page 83 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: was the first thing we did. And we launched Instagram 84 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 3: and we turned into like a daily discussion board pretty 85 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: much of like different financial topics. We post different things 86 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: on Instagram and people give their feedback on it and 87 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: we do different write ups and it's like a whole 88 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: you know, financial board discussion on different all different areas 89 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: of finance. Right. So, but that was all done in 90 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: relationship to build the podcast. Right, So we created a podcast, right, 91 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: we didn't know anything about That's another thing about this too, 92 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 3: is that we didn't know. We're not even our year yet. 93 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: We're like, we're still learning. We just had a phone 94 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: call and we're like, yo, we're learning still. 95 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, eleven eleven months and we're still learning. So we 96 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: think we're Earner Leasia. Is that Okay? So it started 97 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: it's just a podcast, and we had to figure out 98 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: how can you monetize a podcast because there's no blueprint 99 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 3: on how to do it. You just kind of figure 100 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 3: out how you go, right. So, but now we have 101 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 3: a few different streams from earn lesions, like I think 102 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: we gonn talk about like five six different streams that 103 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: we have from earn Leisure, income streams from early Leasure 104 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 3: right now. Right, So all right, So as the podcast grew, 105 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 3: the first the first thing that we started to monetize 106 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: was all yeah, right, so if you listen to this, 107 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: you know that you know, we give Spotify anchor from 108 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 3: time to time other brands. You know, it's part of 109 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: the episode. Right, So those are ads that we do, 110 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: and we're not doing it for charity. Obviously we can't 111 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: conversated for that, right, So how you get compensated in 112 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: the podcast world was called CPM yep, right, So CPM 113 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 3: is like per thousand plays what you get. So if 114 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: you get standard, the good thing with podcasts is that 115 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 3: it's usually like standard. It's like twenty five dollars twenty on, 116 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: like twenty to twenty five. It's like usually standard, right, 117 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 3: industry standard. 118 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: And when the platform we use was Anchor. 119 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 4: Obviously if you listen to this, we did it on 120 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 4: Anchor and we didn't have to go find them. They 121 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 4: provided us with the ads based on the audience listening. 122 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 4: So they saw that there was a thousand people listening 123 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 4: to the first episodes, they send us one ad. 124 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: They see this four thousand people. Then they sent us 125 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 2: two ads. 126 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 4: So the more people we had engaged in listening, the 127 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 4: more ads they sent to us. And you know it, 128 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 4: so like you hear, you got to go back and 129 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 4: listen to the original adds. So the original was a 130 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: funny bit. 131 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: Man, not a crazy thing is At first I didn't 132 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: even want to take the ad because I'm like, when 133 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: I saw it was twenty dollars CPM per thousand. 134 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: That's how it works, every thousand. 135 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: So when we first started, we was averaging like two 136 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: thousand a week or something like that. So I'm like, 137 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 3: why are we even doing this for forty dollars? And 138 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 3: then I read something like just do it because it 139 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 3: builds up over the cost. 140 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 2: Of time perpetuity. 141 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 3: And it does. I can tell you it does. And 142 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: the crazy thing about it is that now with like 143 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: anchor like it's the dynamic ads, right, So what happens 144 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: is that not every time somebody listens to a podcast, 145 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: we get paid. So you can go back and listen 146 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: to episode one and as long as there's an ad 147 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: and placed in it, we're gonna get paid for that. 148 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 3: So that's pretty cool because it's like, now as our 149 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: audience grows, right, we are revenue grows as well, right, 150 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: so we get paid. So that's one way how we 151 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: get paid, right. And then so that was the first 152 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: way how we started to monetize the podcast. And then 153 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 3: you know, from that, we figured, okay, now we have 154 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: an audience, but we always love fashion and we always 155 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: you know, it was like, okay, what's the next thing 156 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: that we should do, and actually to promote the podcast 157 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: as well, and we came up with a couple of 158 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: different slogans with the slogan, the slogan that really stuck 159 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: and became our signature was Assets over Liability. 160 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, we had if I remember sitting down and we 161 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 4: wrote down, like you said, let's come up with ten. 162 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna come up with ten. And we put them 163 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 4: out and it was like, all right, well let's use 164 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 4: these three. And we had three. So if you had 165 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 4: the day one people, you know, when you went to 166 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 4: the site, there was a bunch of different shirts. 167 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: And as we moved on and we realized like that's 168 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: not really gonna move, we stuck with three. 169 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, the most popular, Access over Reliabilities. So and that 170 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: just became our trademark. We tried a couple different things, 171 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: but that became our trademark. And so the thing about merch, 172 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: everybody sells merch. It's popular, it's like the first thing 173 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: you want to do, right, But merch can be a 174 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: kind of a tricky thing. So how we use what 175 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: we use is print Fall. Right. So print Fall is 176 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: a company that allows you to not hold any inventory. 177 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: It's on demand, so like you order it, it's they 178 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 4: make it pretty much like what we said in the 179 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: last segment. They make it, they distribute it, and all 180 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 4: we do is create the file which is the assets 181 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 4: over alliabilities, which is ours. They print it up and 182 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 4: they send it out to you. 183 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. So, and it's an interesting business model. It's pros 184 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: and cons with everything because they take a percentage, a 185 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: pretty healthy percentage. We're working on that so, I mean, 186 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: we probably could make a lot more money if we 187 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: just did it ourselves. But the thing about it is 188 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: a lot more work and it's a lot more capital. 189 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: It doesn't cost us anything. That's the good thing about 190 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 3: print falls. That doesn't cost anything. 191 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 2: Right, we don't have to buy sweatshirts, we don't have 192 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: to buy t shirts. 193 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: One hundred dollars a month I think just to actually 194 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: run the site. But other than that, there's no there's 195 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 3: no money, there's no overhead. So as somebody buys the shirt, 196 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: they print it, they ship it. It's a whole. It's 197 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 3: a whole. 198 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 4: Literally, Like we created our own store on Shopify. It 199 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: goes on prince full and we put our designs up 200 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 4: there and people just when they order. 201 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: I remember we got our first order. I was like, 202 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: oh wow, this is great, and then we don't have 203 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: to store anything. 204 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: That's another thing to it. Especially when it comes to business, 205 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 3: a lot of times it's like and this is this 206 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 3: is this. There's no really no right or wrong answer 207 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: on this, But especially if you're doing a lot of 208 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: different things, sometimes it's better to take less money to 209 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 3: free your time up right, because it's like, like I said, 210 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: we could do it ourselves, but that's a lot more time, 211 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: Like we actually have to find somebody to actually make 212 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: it for. We have to hold a bundle of different 213 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: merch we have to ship it, we have to track it, 214 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 3: we have to you know, do all of those things. 215 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: It's not and especially as more people start to order shirts, 216 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: it becomes too much. It's difficult. So with print Fall, 217 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: they kind of do all of that for us. Like 218 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: I said, they take their percentage for doing all of 219 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 3: that stuff, but we're still get compensated. So that was 220 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: that was another revenue that was like the second revenue 221 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: stream that we did. 222 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 4: I did, and then the next one was a probably 223 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 4: pay program and that was kind of just happened in 224 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 4: a comment somebody was like, hey, you guys on Patreon, 225 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 4: and at the time I remember I text you, I'm like, yo, 226 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 4: what is Patreon? And then we did the resource showler. 227 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 4: It was like, oh, this could be a way that 228 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 4: we could give bonus content. We can put out different 229 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 4: variety of things and features for our audience, and so 230 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 4: like that became another source of income. 231 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 2: So we created five different tiers. 232 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, Patreon, Patreon is a whole bob you actually you're 233 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 3: talking about Patreon. I don't even know what Patreon was comedy, 234 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 3: just like we should do a Patreon, Like what is Patreon? 235 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 3: And Patreon is a is a is a platform for 236 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: creatives for people to support on a financial level. And 237 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 3: the cool thing with Patreon is that it's a real community, 238 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: where like Patreon, you get you can add different tiers 239 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: to it. So like we have different tiers to our 240 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: Patreon and like depending on what tear you're in, Like 241 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: you get add free episodes, you get episodes before the 242 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 3: podcast drops. You get FaceTime conversations with us. Yeah, FaceTime 243 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: conversations is lit. You get direct conversations with us, you 244 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 3: get you get discounts on the merche, you get access 245 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: to Eyo University. 246 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's new. 247 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 4: So like that was one of the things and we 248 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: sent the message out. It was like, Yo, we got 249 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 4: something to coming, we got something to come in, and 250 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 4: we were building it. So like now it's like now 251 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 4: they get to see what we have building. Everybody that's 252 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 4: in a Tier four or five they get to have 253 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 4: access to Eyo University. So that makes it even dope. 254 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this this, this is the whole The whole 255 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: thing with the Business show is that you want to 256 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: just create different ideas because you might not be able 257 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 3: to copy every single thing, but you want to just 258 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: spark your brain. So for me, I'm always big on 259 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 3: cross promoting, right, So I'm like, okay, look if we 260 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 3: got Patreon, right, And and you also have to add 261 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: value like all these different report I want to stress 262 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: that too. Never do anything just to make money, right, 263 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: you got to have like real value, Like the merch 264 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: is something that we truly believe in, Like we really 265 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 3: believe in the merch. And I think the reason why 266 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: as Overliabilities has taken off because it's a dope slogan 267 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 3: and it's really powerful and like three words, it really 268 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 3: means a lot, Like it's assets over liability, like you 269 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So it's like, if you're going 270 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: to spend money to wear merch, Like, you might as 271 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: well wear something that you like and it's stylished. That's 272 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: like it's dope. 273 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: Like that was our thing. 274 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 4: It was like, Yo, if we're going to create something 275 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 4: that people are gonna wear, it might have it should 276 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 4: have a message on it, and it should be a 277 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 4: message that resonates with our community and all communities. Really yeah, 278 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 4: like that's what the intent was when we did the merchant, 279 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 4: and like, let's make money. We're not a clothing brand, 280 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 4: but we want to have a message. Every time we 281 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 4: go outside we know people. 282 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: Are watching exactly. And also with the Patreon too, it's 283 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 3: like we don't want to just set up Patreon as 284 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 3: a way for people just to support the podcast. That's 285 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 3: like charity and an event. We want to actually give 286 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 3: them value as well. Right, So that's why we had 287 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: the phone conversations, That's why we added free access to 288 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 3: Eyo University. That's why we actually discounts on the merch. 289 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 3: But now with the Patreon, you get discount on the merch, 290 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 3: but it leads back to the merch, which is like 291 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: cross promoting, right exactly, So and everything always leads back 292 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 3: to the podcast. The podcast is the Mothership, which is free. 293 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 3: But that's the cool thing about it too, where the 294 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: podcast is free, but from something that is free, we're 295 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: able to create multiple different income streams where we can 296 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 3: actually profit. So that's another thing to a lot of 297 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: times people think like just because you're not actually getting 298 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: paid for something right away, or something doesn't look like 299 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 3: you can actually make money from it, you gotta look deeper. 300 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 3: It's not just like you gotta go ABC D E 301 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 3: F like you know what I mean, like to say, okay, 302 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 3: the podcast, we could the podcast is really just to 303 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 3: get us out there. As far as on our revenue, 304 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 3: of course, the podcast is to educate, that's the most important. 305 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 3: But as far as our revenue stream, we now we 306 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: can monetize the podcast even though people don't pay for 307 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: the podcast because of ads. But even if we had 308 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 3: no ads at all, we can still monetize off of 309 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: the podcast because of the visibility and allows us to 310 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: do other things. 311 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 4: And it's not like we have to create seven different things. 312 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 4: We still have the Mothership, the tree, which is the podcast, 313 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 4: and all these branches coming off of it. And that's 314 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 4: true what you said. We didn't do it for money, right, 315 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 4: So like when we had Patreon. We had like two 316 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 4: members the first month. Right next month we had seven. 317 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: Like we just kept grinding, like kept putting out the contact, 318 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 4: putt out of value making. 319 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: Those phone calls. 320 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 4: Now we're up to like over one hundred and fifteen 321 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 4: or something like that. And it was like just being 322 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 4: consistent and spreading the word and giving the value. 323 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: Like I think I was massed right. 324 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 4: He was like, yo, just give it away, give it away, 325 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 4: give it away, give it away, give it away. 326 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: And then people are, well, they want to pay for it. 327 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 3: They feel guilty not to that and that's why, like 328 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: I said, proud to pay. With Nipsey when he had 329 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: his one hundred dollars, it wasn't so much it's just 330 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: him selling a mixtape for one hundred dollars. This is 331 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: a whole experience. You got tickets to a concert, you 332 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: got merch. It was it was bundled together and it 333 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 3: was very well done and people were proud to because 334 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: people want to support, but they just got to have 335 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: something good that they can support, Like nobody wants to 336 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: support something that's just trash. And then so so then 337 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: the next revenue stream comes via of YouTube. So YouTube 338 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: is something that we're still figuring it out, but I 339 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: encourage any creative, any creative of anybody thinking about starting anything. 340 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: You got to get on YouTube. People don't fully understand 341 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: the power of YouTube. We spoke about this before, but. 342 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 4: That's the thing, and it would just be fully transparent. 343 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 4: We didn't start on YouTube. 344 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: The first like seven episodes wasn't wasn't on you. People 345 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: had to really convince us to get on YouTube. Like 346 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: the first seven episodes was just audio because it's like 347 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: it's a lot more work. You gotta film it, and 348 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 3: you gotta upload it, you gotta edit this. It's the 349 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: whole process. But YouTube, YouTube is interesting because it's like 350 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: YouTube also. All right, So the monetization for YouTube is 351 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: you have to have a thousand watch hours. 352 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so a thousand watch hours and four. 353 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 3: Before you come out. So watch hours is like how 354 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: many how many hours somebody has watched your video. So 355 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: you need a thousand watch hours and you need four 356 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: thousand subscribers and then you can start to monetize through 357 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: YouTube studio. And YouTube is another thing where it's like, 358 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: you know, the first YouTube check that you'll see is 359 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: like let's say, like for us, it. 360 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: Was like one hundred watched it. 361 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 4: I mean we watched that for like one hundred dollars. 362 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it's like six months later, was to 363 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: like four thousand YouTube. So God will in this time 364 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: next year it will be four times that, you know 365 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But the good thing with YouTube is 366 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 3: like once again, like the audio, once a video is 367 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: in YouTube, especially if it's like gets a lot of traction, 368 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: it's there forever. So I was just telling, like Alex 369 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 3: goot Energy from Trucking Episode thirty nine, I'm like, yo, 370 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: your video is gonna live forever because it has like 371 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: fifty nine thousand views right now or whatever. But a 372 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 3: year from now, somebody types in trucking, they'll find that video, 373 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: right and then they watch it and then we get paid. 374 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: And the cool thing, and I spoke about this on 375 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: the social media episode that we did, is that a 376 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: lot of times people with especially with like YouTube and 377 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: things of that nature, numbers are not the most important thing. 378 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: Numbers are not the most important thing. What I mean 379 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: by that is that like our forty thousand subscribers that 380 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: we have right now is probably more valuable than a 381 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: lot of people that have a million, two million subscribers 382 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: because our content, we get paid at a higher CPM. 383 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: What that means is that like our content is clean, 384 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: content is that's important, So companies they love that to advertise, right, 385 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: It's like the business is like the number one space 386 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: for advertisers. So I was speaking to somebody who has 387 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: a YouTube channel, but it's a wrap show and they 388 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 3: bring rappers on stuff like that, you know. So he 389 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: was telling me his CPMs for his show is like 390 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: three dollars four dollars, but he has like a million subscribers. 391 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 3: His videos get like two hundred thousand views, right, But 392 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 3: he's not really making money because it's like three dollars 393 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: where we might get ten twenty thousand views per episode. 394 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 3: We have forty thousand subscribers, which is way less than 395 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 3: what he has, right, right, but we're making more money 396 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: because our CPMs could be thirty dollars twenty five dollars. 397 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 4: And that's another thing that's beautiful about YouTube is that 398 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 4: the CPM fluctuates, so like depending on the content, like 399 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 4: a video like mobile homes, you could get maybe forty 400 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 4: five dollars per CPM, which is per thousand, or like 401 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 4: Alex right, it could be forty seven dollars or as 402 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 4: in the audio space, it's just pretty stage the same 403 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 4: standard at twenty five dollars. So like that's another beautiful 404 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 4: thing about YouTubers, Like it changes and depending on the content, 405 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 4: and that's that's key. What you said, too, is having 406 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 4: clean content, because if we had profanity laced conversations, right, 407 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 4: people wouldn't be putting money out to put on ads. 408 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: And I think we ran into that one time when 409 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: we had an episode with We're Talking about Marijuana, which 410 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 4: was a business podcast and it was a business lesson, 411 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 4: but just the fact that we had marijuana in our title, 412 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 4: it kind of changed. 413 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: We didn't get paid for that, But that's something too 414 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 3: for a lot of crit Like I said, all of 415 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 3: this stuff is just free information, free knowledge because these 416 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: are things that we learned. We literally learned all this 417 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 3: stuff on the fly. So you know, if you're starting 418 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 3: a YouTube channel, if you're thinking about monetizing online, these 419 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 3: are good good things to know. Because we didn't notice, 420 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 3: Like we didn't know that we put cannabis on marijuana 421 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 3: in the title, that's a red flag for YouTube. The 422 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: video went out, people saw it, but we didn't get 423 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 3: paid on it. 424 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 2: We got that little yellow sticker. 425 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: They're very big on that, very big on that industry. 426 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: They've shut down pages. They shut down some big cannabis 427 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: pages where six hundred thousand subscribers, a million subscribers, they 428 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: shut their pages down. So it's just it's important to 429 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: understand what you're doing because like you could just be 430 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 3: doing something and I fully understand what you're doing, and 431 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: it's like you got you built up a million and 432 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 3: two million followers subscribers, but now it's hard for you 433 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 3: to monetize it. Where you see somebody with one hundred thousand, 434 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 3: I said, it's on social media. I know a girl 435 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 3: who had one hundred thousand, one hundred and fifty thousand 436 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: subscribers on Instagram that was getting paid fifteen thousand dollars 437 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 3: for an Instagram post. Where we know a lot of 438 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: Instagram models, bartenders that have millions of followers that can't 439 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: they can't figure out how to make money because the 440 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 3: only people that's going to advertise on their page is 441 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: lingerie and just promoting parties industry. They're limited, right, even 442 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: like a John Henry, John Henry doesn't have that many followers, 443 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 3: have like one hundred and twenty thousand followers, killing he's 444 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 3: making a killing. 445 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 2: Killing. 446 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 3: He making a killing because it's clean. You got a 447 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 3: clean look. It's you know what I mean, it's just 448 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: the whole, it's the whole package. He's very he's very 449 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 3: friendly to advertise it. So not to say that you 450 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: have to be that. I mean you could, you could 451 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 3: still make money, but not me. But just know that. 452 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 3: Just just just be aware of it. Like I'm not 453 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 3: telling you to change your your whole platform and to 454 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 3: become something that you're not, but just be aware of it. 455 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 4: You should be aware because that will be the reason 456 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 4: why the monetization is a lot less. 457 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, So just know it's good to know that, not 458 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: the fact. 459 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 3: So and then we also do live events. Now the 460 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 3: live events is another way how we're monetizing. But the thing, 461 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 3: like I said, the thing about is that we're always 462 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: adding value. Right, So this is a business podcast. We're 463 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 3: never gonna apologize for making money. That's the whole point. 464 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 3: Like we should never be ashamed to be entrepreneurs. But 465 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: as long as you're as long as you're creating value, 466 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 3: that's the most important thing. Right. So just from that, 467 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 3: that's five different revenue streams that we named off of 468 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 3: the podcast. Right, So now we don't have to we 469 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: don't have to get five different jobs. 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Like I'm saying that we got 535 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 3: to set an example. It's like it's more than just 536 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 3: like we're just not getting up here just talking about it. 537 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 3: We actually are implementing a real business. 538 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we have a few more, Like we have 539 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 4: a few more even even like in the summer when 540 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 4: we do our summer programming. That's another stream of income 541 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 4: for us. We have a couple things that we're going 542 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 4: announce to the top of twenty twenty that were just 543 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 4: continuing to build off of the mothership. All earn your leisure, 544 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 4: but all things that help people. So yeah, man, we 545 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 4: gotta keep creating. And it don't be surprised if you 546 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 4: see like us doing trucking, Like we get a truck, 547 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 4: we're we're getting all this inflammation. So every time we 548 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 4: hear something and we learn, it's like, yo, we should 549 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 4: do No. 550 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 3: It's a fact. We even talking about our book. We 551 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: gotta get we got we gotta get back to writing 552 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 3: that book. But the book, that's another thing that was 553 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 3: like that we're looking to launch and we got the 554 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 3: blueprint of the book from Ash Cash episode episode twenty six. 555 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: So it's like a lot of times, like when you 556 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 3: listen to earn your leisure, don't just listen and just 557 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 3: be entertained. Man, it's application, Like I said, like we're 558 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 3: living proof, like we're we're literally applying things that we 559 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 3: are learning. 560 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 4: You know what the best part is, Like not once 561 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 4: did you say like I'm a financial advisor too, Like 562 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 4: people forget that part, Like yeah, so like yeah, that 563 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 4: your financial advisor. 564 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 2: I'm a teacher. But these things that we're doing, like 565 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: outside of that, that's like non different streams. 566 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: You need to have like ten ten different joints going 567 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 3: because you never know, you never know when something can 568 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 3: dry up, you know what I'm saying. You never know 569 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: when something can dry up. So it's like I've seen 570 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 3: it and I learned that early on just from watching 571 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 3: people that I grew up with older people, And it's 572 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 3: like you get laid off from your job and your 573 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 3: screw you had a bad month from your job, and 574 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 3: it's like you damn there on a homeless line, like 575 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So now it's like we're 576 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 3: having multiple streams. It gives you a cushion. It gives 577 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 3: you a buffer and it's like, all right. 578 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: Well you can feel it. You can feel the freedom. 579 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 3: You do feel less pressure to you. 580 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 2: You can feel the freedom of it. 581 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 4: It's like, you know what, I'm not relying on anything. 582 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 4: I have so many things that if this doesn't work, 583 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 4: I got this. 584 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: I got it. 585 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 4: You can feel the freedom like I can feel it personally. 586 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 4: It's like, Yo, this is crazy. This is different. Like 587 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 4: this feels like twenty nineteen doesn't feel like twenty eighteen. 588 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: It feels different. 589 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 3: It does. And so yeah, so that's our but that's 590 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 3: our journey. And not to say that you have to 591 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 3: start a podcast, but it's like that's something that fit 592 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 3: in what we were doing. So it's like what fits 593 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 3: in what you're doing? 594 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, And on Early Legion University, I broke down how 595 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 4: you can earn income and education because a lot of 596 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 4: times I have conversations with people in my profession and like, yo, 597 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 4: how do you have time? 598 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: How do you have time? 599 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 4: And I went through like five or six different things 600 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 4: streams of income just from being an educator, Like it 601 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 4: is things that you probably are overthinking that you can 602 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 4: do that don't require much time. 603 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so all right, So yeah, that was that, And 604 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 3: like I said, that was kind of the abbreviated version. 605 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 3: The full version is on earn your Legion University, where 606 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: we kind of just dove into a lot of different things. 607 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 3: But I just wanted to just let people know that 608 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 3: it's always something more, no matter what you're doing, it's 609 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: always something more. And when you're looking to start a business, 610 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 3: see if that business is scalable, like the podcast is 611 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 3: scalable because we don't it's very low inventory. That's another 612 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 3: thing too, it's very low inventory. It can reach people 613 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 3: from New York to Australia. We're not limited geographically, and 614 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: it provides us opportunities to create multiple different launching paths. 615 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 4: That was the first question Dery Falcon ask me walked 616 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 4: in when we did his interview. The first thing he 617 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 4: sat down on my coudu and was like, Yo, how 618 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 4: y'all gonna scale this first thing? 619 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: You asked? I'm like, good question, and we still we 620 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 2: come up with. 621 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 3: New ideas how we can scale. So, like I said, 622 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 3: that's our blueprint, but what's your blueprint? Right? Like, if 623 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: you are restaurant owner, how do you scale that? How 624 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 3: do you create multiple different streams. Derek gave the blueprint 625 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 3: for that. But it's like if you if you have 626 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: a gym, how do you create multiple different streams off 627 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 3: that gym? Like even Alex right, he has a trucking, 628 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 3: but he makes more money off of his portal and 629 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 3: now he has merch So so yeah, so that's that's 630 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 3: the rightdown multiple streams of income people. It's it's it's 631 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 3: not something that is optional at this point in time, 632 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: is mandatory and it's all about being creative and understanding 633 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: how you can build different branches off of one tree. 634 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 3: So we're going to close it out with some education 635 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 3: as far as investing in different things. 636 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: Right, it's fun. 637 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're going to close it out. We're going 638 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 3: to close it out with something that is easy for me. 639 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: Like I said, a lot of times people don't fully understand, 640 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 3: Like everybody thinks do the podcast full time, but I 641 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 3: actually have a financial planning firm, independent firm. 642 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: Who was your first client you were, thank. 643 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: You for sure wealth wealth management firm. So that's what I 644 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: do like outside of this so so yeah, retirement planning, investing, 645 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 3: things of that nature. So one thing that always gets 646 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 3: people's attention when we talk about is the self directed IRA. 647 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 3: So I wanted to talk about that because you know, 648 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 3: we talk about real estate a lot on this show, 649 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 3: and we bring on different real estate investors and things 650 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: of that nature, and we always you know, have to 651 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 3: give people different options. So funding, when it comes to funding, 652 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 3: that stops a lot of people from investing in real estate. 653 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 3: So we you know, talk about two or three K 654 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: loans and hard money loans and conventional loans and things 655 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 3: of that nature. But another way that people can can 656 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 3: invest in real estate that not a lot of people 657 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 3: are fully familiar with is via their retirement account. Right, 658 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: because if you think about it, I've spoke about this before, 659 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 3: most for the average American middle class, American lower middle class, whatever, 660 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 3: they don't have a tremendous amount of money saved in 661 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 3: a savings account. They don't have money. They might probably 662 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 3: have no investment outside of retirement, like they don't have 663 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 3: I mean. 664 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: I know people straight up that don't know what an 665 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: IRI is. 666 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 3: Well, yeah that, but I'm just saying as far as 667 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 3: the money that they have saved is in retirement. So 668 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 3: it's not uncommon for a teacher to have a half 669 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 3: a million dollars in their pension plan or their four 670 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 3: or three B plan by the time they retire, or 671 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 3: it's not uncommon for somebody to work in corporate America 672 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 3: for twenty years and to have four hundred thousand dollars 673 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 3: or even like one hundred thousand in a couple of years, 674 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 3: Like it adds up. The good thing with four in 675 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 3: one case is that the money is taken right out 676 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 3: of your paycheck, so it's easy. Everybody knows it out there. 677 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 3: Like when you sign up for a job, they do you. 678 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 3: They sign you up for it, and then you've worked, 679 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 3: like I said, a union job, you have a pension. 680 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 3: People have money in retirement accounts, long story short, Yeah, 681 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 3: and that's the one place where a lot of people 682 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 3: that's like their only source of like real. 683 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: Say somebody if they're saving, they're like, yeah, I have 684 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: a four one yeah. 685 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 3: So what happens is that is that a lot of 686 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 3: times what happens I see all the time is that 687 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 3: people like they might leave their job or whatever, they 688 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 3: want to buy a home, and they have an old 689 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: retirement account like old four one K, and what they 690 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 3: do is that they cash it out because that's the 691 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 3: only real money. They cash out their four one K 692 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 3: and they use that for a down payment or they 693 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 3: use that to buy a home. The problem with that 694 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: is that now not only do you deplete your retirement account, 695 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 3: but you get taxed crazy. Like if you take money 696 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 3: out of a retirement account, but for fifty nine and 697 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 3: a half from all resignment accounts, you pay a ten 698 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 3: percent penalty, you pay state tax, and you pay federal tax. 699 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 3: So you could be paying up to fifty to fifty 700 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 3: five percent of the money in taxes. Right, So that's 701 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: that's a lot of money that's you're liable. 702 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: With this house man. 703 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's important to understand that. So a lot 704 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 3: of times people don't fully understand that you can actually 705 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 3: use retirement money to actually purchase property. Right, So how 706 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 3: you do that is via what's called a self directed eye. 707 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 4: So before we go there, right, because this is important, 708 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 4: what's the difference between an IRA and a self directed IRA? 709 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 3: So, all right, an IRA is what it stands for 710 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 3: is then individual retirement account. 711 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 4: Right. 712 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 3: I think we spoke about this in another episode one time. 713 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 3: But so IRA can be set up to two different ways. 714 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 3: You can set an IRA up just with money out 715 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 3: of your pocket, and like you can fund it every year. 716 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: Like if you are self employed, or if your job 717 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 3: doesn't have a four one K, or if you make 718 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 3: under a certain amount of money, you can just put 719 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 3: money to an IRA every year. Right now, you put 720 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 3: like six thousand dollars on IRA. 721 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 2: There's a max on it. Yeah, for the year. 722 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 3: Okay, But now what's very populous, what's called the IRA rollover. 723 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 3: So when you what happens is that now you leave 724 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 3: your job, right, and now you have an old four 725 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: one K, an old pension plan, an old four three 726 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: B whatever TDA, whatever it, and you can roll that 727 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 3: into an IRA. Right. So the reason why it's called 728 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 3: the rollover is that it's going from one what's called 729 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 3: tax qualified vehicle to another tax qualified vehicle. You're not 730 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 3: paying taxes on it for your retirement. The only difference 731 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 3: is that the four one K is set up by 732 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 3: your job. The IRA is set up individually. You can 733 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 3: set up you know, with a bank or through a 734 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 3: financial advisor or you know online, there's different ways to 735 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 3: set it up. 736 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: Right. 737 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 3: So most of the time when when people do IRA rollovers, 738 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: they're rolling into what's called the traditional IRA. Traditional IRA 739 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 3: is investing in more traditional investments stocks, stocks, mutual funds, 740 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 3: things of that nature. Right, So it's invested in the 741 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 3: stock market, in bonds, things of that nature, and it 742 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 3: grows over the cost of time. So let's say you 743 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 3: had a job you work at at and T for 744 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 3: fifteen years. You have one hundred thousand dollars in a 745 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 3: four oneth can you left you left? So now when 746 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 3: you leave your job, the four one k is pretty 747 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 3: much frozen in the sense not frozen way. It's not growing. 748 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 3: It's still growing relative to have any investments do, but 749 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 3: you can't borrow from it, right, you can't add money 750 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 3: to it, you don't have any advice on it. You're 751 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 3: not you're not working there anymore. A lot of times 752 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 3: people move and they don't update the address, so it 753 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 3: becomes difficult to manage if you're not working there anymore. 754 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 3: So this is why a rollover is so appealing because 755 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 3: now you get to pick and choose your investments. You 756 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 3: can add money to the IRA if you want, You 757 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 3: can work with somebody that can help you out, like 758 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 3: an advisor and things of that nature. So that's that's 759 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 3: what that's what the IRA is, just taking control over 760 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 3: the money. So now you have that, you have it 761 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: in the i RA, all right, So now as it's 762 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 3: in the i RA, it can be invested in like 763 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 3: let's say it's invested in mutual funds, right or an 764 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 3: annuity or whatever. It was just the regular IR traditional 765 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: So the money's invested, you're not paying any taxes on 766 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 3: it as long as it stays in And it's just 767 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 3: like how it would be with your four one K, 768 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 3: except you're kind of picking choosing investments for yourself. Okay, 769 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 3: So it's that's the easy So if. 770 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 4: I'm not picking it, then it would be a financial 771 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 4: advisor or like I saw, like a custodian. 772 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 3: Most of the time, it's a through like somebody will 773 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 3: help you out with it. So whether that be a 774 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 3: financial advisor, whether that be somebody at a bank, credit union, 775 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 3: or you know. Usually you can do it yourself too 776 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 3: if you go online like you can fidelity, but a 777 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 3: lot of times people just don't feel comfortable doing the 778 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 3: things themselves. They might want help, so somebody will help 779 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 3: you out with it that they'll you know, kind of 780 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 3: guide you on like what makes sense, this is a 781 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 3: good investment, and this is the reasons why things that nature. 782 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 3: So that's what most people do, like probably like ninety 783 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 3: five percent of people, they'll roll at money into a 784 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 3: traditional IRA. But another option that you have is that 785 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 3: you can roll into what's called the self directed IRA. So, 786 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 3: so traditional IRIS allows you to invest in traditional investments. 787 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 3: Like like I just said, the self directed IRA allows 788 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 3: you to invest in a broad range of different things. 789 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 3: Everything from bitcoin to commodities. Is a bunch of possibilities, 790 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 3: all kinds of different stuff. 791 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 4: And one of the things, so somebody said, like you 792 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 4: can invest in a horse holding firm. 793 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can invest in all kinds of different things 794 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 3: with the self directed IRA. And one of the most 795 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 3: popular things that people use self directed IRA is for 796 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 3: is real estate. So a self directed IRA allows you 797 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 3: to invest money in real estate. Right, So what happens 798 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 3: is that you have one hundred thousand dollars and instead 799 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 3: of like if you don't roll into a traditional IRA, 800 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 3: you can roll it into a self directed IRA. Now 801 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 3: that self directed IRA, you can buy a home, or 802 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 3: you can buy an apartment or whatever, or use that 803 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 3: money to you know, buy different forms of real estate. 804 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 3: And the money's not tax because the whole point of 805 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 3: keeping it within the IRA is that you avoid you're 806 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 3: avoiding paying tax tax when you take it out, or 807 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 3: tax when you take it out when you when you 808 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 3: take receipt of it, we call taking receipt of the 809 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 3: money right, so like when you take receipt of it, 810 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 3: that's when the money goes see a bank account, like 811 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 3: when you physically receive it. As long as it's under 812 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 3: the umbrella of the IRA, you never actually have you 813 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 3: don't have receipt of it, so you're not paying any 814 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 3: taxes on it. That's the benefit of rolling a fall 815 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 3: one came to an IRA and keeping it in the IRA. Right, 816 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 3: you're not paying any taxes. Whenever you take money out, 817 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 3: you're going to get taxed. If you take it out prematurely, 818 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 3: you get a ten percent penalty tax. But at any 819 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,959 Speaker 3: point in time you take money out of an IRA 820 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 3: or four to one kre, you pay a state and 821 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 3: federal tax, the federal taxes with federal tax bracket you're 822 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 3: in at that time, and the state tax depending on 823 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 3: what state tax with state you're in, and it's treated 824 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 3: like ordinary income. 825 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 2: And you can borrow that. 826 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 4: At any time, but just know that there's gonna be 827 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 4: a penalty borrow What you can borrow money from the. 828 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 3: IRA, you can't borrow money from the IRA. You can 829 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 3: take money once a year from the IRA, but it's 830 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 3: a sixty day rule where you got to put the 831 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 3: money back in. 832 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 2: Okay, good enough. 833 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 3: So what happens is that with the self directed IRA, 834 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 3: right now you can use that money stays in the IRA, 835 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 3: but you can buy a real estate. So like, let's 836 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 3: say you used one hundred thousand and you bought a home, 837 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 3: used all of it to buy a home for one 838 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 3: hundred thousand in cash. Right, So now that one hundred 839 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 3: thousand is pretty much like your retirement So the one 840 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 3: hundred thousand rolls to two hundred thousand over the course 841 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 3: of time. You're not paying any taxes as it's growing, right, 842 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 3: So you sell that home. Now you made one hundred 843 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 3: thousand dollar profit. Right Now, you put that back into 844 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 3: the self directed IRA. Now it's not taxable. Now you 845 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 3: have two hundred thousand dollars. Now you can buy more 846 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 3: real estate or you can invest something else. Right. So 847 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 3: it's another way to invest in real estate with your 848 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 3: retirement account as opposed to investing with like a lot 849 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 3: of times people think that they have to cash out 850 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 3: their retirement to invest in real estate because most iras 851 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 3: will not allow you to invest in real estate. It's 852 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 3: not for self directed IRA. 853 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 4: All right, So what's the process of setting up an IRA, 854 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 4: because it's you're doing it yourself. 855 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 2: I'm assuming right, self directed. 856 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 3: Self directed IRA. Yeah, So the process is set up, 857 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 3: the process is set up a IRA. Period. This is 858 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 3: the process is set up an IRA. You do an 859 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 3: application for the IRA company, right, So now that that 860 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 3: sets up your IRA account. Like let's say you set 861 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 3: up an IRA with Franklin Simpleton. Right, you're doing an 862 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 3: application with Franklin Simpleton and you're setting up an IRA. Right. Now, 863 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 3: you have an IRA number, let's say it's one three, 864 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 3: five seven zero. That's your IRA number. You have an account. 865 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 3: All of that stuff is set up, but it's not 866 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 3: funded yet. So what happens is that now you have 867 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 3: to do a conference call with the fall one K company. 868 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 3: Actual is the easiest way you do a conference call. 869 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 3: And usually like you do with your advisor, if you're 870 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 3: working with an advisor, and like most companies nowadays, like 871 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 3: it's Fidelity, they'll do it over the phone where they 872 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,959 Speaker 3: can initiate the transfer over the phone. So you say, okay, 873 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 3: I have an IRA, I want to roll my old 874 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 3: four one K into an IRA and they ask you, like, 875 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 3: who's the check made out to. You'll say like Franklin 876 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 3: for John Doe. Franklin Templeton for a benefit of John Doe, right, 877 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 3: and they say, like, what's the address. Most a lot 878 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 3: of times they'll send it directly to your house or 879 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 3: sometimes they'll turn it to the company, but they'll cut 880 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 3: the check. They'll do it over the phone and they'll 881 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 3: cut the check and then you deposit that until your 882 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 3: IRA account and now your IRA is funded. Right. Sometimes 883 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,439 Speaker 3: some companies have paperwork where they have like their own 884 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 3: paperwork and you fill out the paperwork, you send it 885 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 3: back to the company and then they send the check. 886 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 3: So it depends either they do it with the phone 887 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 3: or the paperwork. But that's how you set the IRA up. 888 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 3: It's very simple. It's at the IRA up it's too. 889 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 3: It's two part process. You have an application and then 890 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 3: you contact the company and you tell the company where 891 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 3: it's send the money to. Pretty much that's how you 892 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 3: set the IRA up. So when it's self directed IRA, 893 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 3: it's the same process. It's just that there's less companies. 894 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 3: There's like mostly trust companies that do this. So like 895 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:14,240 Speaker 3: with IRA. There's a bunch of hundreds, probably a thousand 896 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 3: companies that you can do IRA where it's very very 897 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 3: common traditional IRA. Everything from insurance companies to investment companies 898 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 3: to banks, credit unions. You can set up IRA up 899 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 3: with pretty much any financial institution. You can set up 900 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 3: a traditional IRA up right, But there's a limited amount 901 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 3: of companies that do self directed iras. 902 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 2: Right. 903 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 3: Well, it's just it's just less, you know, I guess 904 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 3: it's just it's might be I'm not really sure, but 905 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 3: probably I'm sure is more involved. 906 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 4: I mean, when I'm listening to it, it sounds like 907 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 4: this is like one of them things like this is 908 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 4: strictly for love, man, Like this is not something that 909 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 4: the average person. 910 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna get to that. We're gonna get to 911 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 3: that the pros and cons, because there's constant like everything 912 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 3: in life. Well, like just a few companies that I'm 913 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 3: not endorsing any companies because I don't work with I 914 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 3: don't set up self directed iras for people, but just 915 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 3: to kind of give you, like if you google all 916 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 3: directed IRA is, there's a lot of companies that will 917 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 3: come up, so like Equity Trust, goal Star Trust and 918 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 3: Trust Group. Those are different companies, but like I said, 919 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 3: you could just google and do your own research, not 920 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,439 Speaker 3: to give those companies like any endorsement, but that's just 921 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 3: that's just yeah, that's just that's just a couple of 922 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 3: companies name. 923 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 2: But when would be a good time to consider doing 924 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 2: the self director. 925 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 3: So before we even get to that, So how you 926 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 3: set up the self directed IRA is that you you 927 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 3: go online or you contact them and you set it 928 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 3: up with them and they'll walk you through the process 929 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 3: of like who the chech needs to be made out 930 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 3: to you, to give you an account number and all 931 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 3: of that. So it's the same thing I just explained, 932 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 3: but you have to do it this to yourself as 933 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 3: opposed to like a lot of times with the i 934 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 3: RA you have help because it it ovis that will 935 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 3: help you out with yeah most of the time. But 936 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 3: in this process you're gonna have to like kind of 937 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 3: navigate this yourself. So of course you want to be 938 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 3: probably educated, you want to do your research, but the 939 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 3: thing with the show is just to provide information. It's 940 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 3: not to say to do one thing or another, but 941 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 3: it's just to provide information. So there's some drawbacks with 942 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 3: the I with self directed IRA, because the thing with 943 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 3: the self directing IR, like, if you have a regular 944 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 3: IRA right now, the money is invested in the stock market, 945 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 3: you don't really have to do anything like I mean, 946 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 3: you can just monitor it and make sure you're in 947 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 3: a good fund or a good investment, but it's not 948 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 3: gonna cost you like money, right Like if you buy 949 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 3: a real estate property, if you buy a home right now, 950 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 3: you buy that home for one hundred thousand dollars, but 951 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 3: you just it's not a huge just let that go. 952 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 3: Because now the boiler might break, right so now you 953 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 3: gotta pay money to fix the boiler. Or the house 954 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 3: might need to be painted. Now you gotta pay money 955 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 3: to fix this upkeeping the house. No matter what, there's 956 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 3: still upkeep. You gotta cut the grass. There's always gonna 957 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 3: be something. So it's gonna cost you money, exactly. It's 958 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 3: important for people to understand that it's buying a house is 959 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 3: gonna cost you money without like there's no way around it. 960 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 3: So when you have your retirement account tied into that, 961 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 3: a lot of times people you know, you're not investing 962 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 3: your fall one K into an IR, a regular IRA 963 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,919 Speaker 3: with the expectation that you're gonna have to pay five 964 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,879 Speaker 3: thousand dollars a year just to keep up that IRA. 965 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,919 Speaker 3: There's fees involved with an IRA, but that's taken out 966 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 3: of the amount. It's not like you're coming out of 967 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 3: your pocket with a house. Is different, right. Also, a 968 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 3: lot of times people buy homes and the especially with 969 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 3: investment properties, they're doing that to actually have income. So 970 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 3: they buy a home and they want to have income 971 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 3: come from that right to like support their lifestyle. But 972 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 3: any money that you generate from the self directed IRA 973 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 3: property has to go back into the self directed IRA. 974 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 3: If it doesn't, then you get taxed on it. So 975 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 3: that's also important for people to understand. It's more of 976 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 3: a long term play. 977 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 4: So, like I said, so that's not like obviously your 978 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 4: primary residence, I'm assuming primary residence. 979 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 2: What when you're investing in the real estate or could 980 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 2: it be. 981 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 3: No, it could be anything. It doesn't have to be 982 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 3: a primary residence. It could be a rental, it could 983 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 3: be a primary it could be different different things. But 984 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 3: it's just like all things in life. You want to 985 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 3: put together game plan, you want to put together game plan, 986 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 3: you want to be fully knowledgeable. But like I said, 987 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 3: at the whole point of the podcast is just to 988 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 3: give information and then from the information that you can 989 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 3: decipher and say, okay, this makes sense. But a lot 990 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 3: of times we're forcing to doing things because we just 991 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 3: we don't know. So for most people, the self directed 992 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 3: IRA probably wouldn't be the best fit because it's more 993 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 3: work involved everything that I just named, But in some 994 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 3: cases it could potentially make sense. So just wanted to 995 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 3: let people. I spoke about that in a few different settings, 996 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 3: like live settings, and it's always get it always gets 997 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 3: a good reaction. So I wanted to cover that in 998 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,840 Speaker 3: a podcast, and I knew that you know today obviously 999 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 3: that we didn't have a guest, I thought it would 1000 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 3: be a good a good time to actually cover that topic. 1001 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 3: So we talk about real estate so much. 1002 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 2: Shout out. I want to thank you for coming man. 1003 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 2: This is this is. 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