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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Florida

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Speaker 1: the Sun's Ight State. Uh be better if it was

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Speaker 1: the sunlight State, that would make more sense. But anyways,

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Speaker 1: Uh that that is courtesy of Johnny Davis maybe or

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Speaker 1: the brew um uncle brew. We went back to the oldies,

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Speaker 1: but goodies the um license plate based short show trend puns. Uh,

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Speaker 1: because I don't know what else to say at the

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Speaker 1: top of this show, it's a tough one. I am

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Speaker 1: Jack and I am joined today by the brave and

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Speaker 1: talented super producer Becca Ramos. Hello, not brave, You're brave

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Speaker 1: to be co hosting this one. This So yeah, everybody's

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Speaker 1: talking about Ukraine. Russia invaded, like full out all directions.

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Speaker 1: Blitzkrieg is a word that has been used by people

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Speaker 1: on the ground in Ukraine. So I actually that's like

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Speaker 1: kind of where I wanted to start, is you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm passively observing the memes and the mainstream media because

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Speaker 1: it's my job to observe those things. But for information,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to rely only on people who are actually

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Speaker 1: on the ground firsthand. Like Robert Evans knows a lot

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Speaker 1: of them because he's been reporting on Ukraine for a

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Speaker 1: long time Jake Hanrahan was just there. Those are two

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Speaker 1: people former TDZ guests who I follow on Twitter and

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Speaker 1: seem to be up on this ship. So but through them,

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Speaker 1: I've been able to like find people who are just

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Speaker 1: you know, taking pictures or being like, hey, so um,

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Speaker 1: you know, in my neighborhood, people are wondering if I

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Speaker 1: should still go into work while like a fighter jet

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Speaker 1: how how are you? How are you doing? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: mean I we were talking about this before we hopped

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Speaker 1: on today about how much I feel like lost in

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Speaker 1: the conversation because it's so much memes and not enough

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Speaker 1: coverage of what's actually happening. It's a lot of jokes

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Speaker 1: about oh my god, like I thought I just ended COVID,

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Speaker 1: but now I'm in World War three, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's like a very privileged place coming from the United

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Speaker 1: States to be making any sort of jokes because we

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Speaker 1: just do not know what it's like to be a

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Speaker 1: part of a war torn country. Like nine eleven was

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Speaker 1: our closest encounter, and we do not let it go. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: It's never forgetting eleven. Um and it's the one time

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Speaker 1: we've ever experienced that. And I didn't even write like

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Speaker 1: I lived in Texas over in New York City now,

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Speaker 1: so it is a very different experience. But uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's been I think overwhelming. I've been trying to

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Speaker 1: get to the bottom as two why it's even happening.

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Speaker 1: We've been kind of as a show talking about it

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines for a while. This like almost joke

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Speaker 1: that like, oh, it's World War three about the bubble

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Speaker 1: attention is clearly happening in Ukraine and Russia. But now

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Speaker 1: that it's actually happening, and I saw the graphic from

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Speaker 1: the New York Times where it's showing you all the

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Speaker 1: different spots that Russia's bombing Ukraine, It's like, oh, ship,

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Speaker 1: like this is really scary and sad. And you know, having,

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Speaker 1: as I think from an American perspective seeing something like

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Speaker 1: since like World War two like that type of like

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Speaker 1: is but I'm Kim Tran. It says to a lot

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Speaker 1: of Americans, war is abstract, unfathomable. You've never seen a

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Speaker 1: It's so surreal that perhaps you reach for a joke

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Speaker 1: out of discomfort. If this is you don't it's okay

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Speaker 1: to not understand something, to not have had your own

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Speaker 1: life shaped by it. It's unconsciable to turn the space

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Speaker 1: of unknowing into something that trivializes incredible suffering. I definitely

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Speaker 1: people are actually going through. It's so easy to trivialize

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Speaker 1: reposted you know, clip from Rambo too and claim that

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Speaker 1: it's what's happening on the ground. Have one question now,

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Speaker 1: and it might be more than our Ukraine for Dummies

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering, why are we getting these World War three

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Speaker 1: many times and have also, as you all talk about

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Speaker 1: what I'm looking for guilt free in the way that

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Speaker 1: So I wonder why now it's called World War three?

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Speaker 1: Is it because of the NATO conversation? Is it because

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Speaker 1: Versus like I feel like these conversations get ignored when

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Speaker 1: so that's a great question. That actually was like something

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Speaker 1: was wondering if it was possibly because of how strategically

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Speaker 1: up this morning, Like I didn't know how populous Ukraine was.

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Speaker 1: demonstrating bravery that many others have been lacking, in particular

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Speaker 1: but I'm just like, why you're there, you know, like

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Speaker 1: saying to Ted Cruizes face, Say it to my boy,

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Speaker 1: if he wants to elevate people like they're just better

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Speaker 1: good photop he looked fucking cool as hell. Anyways, we

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Speaker 1: He I think in a banquet or a fundraiser or something.

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Speaker 1: He said, I mean he's taking over a country for

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Speaker 1: and then saying that that Ukraine is a quote great

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Speaker 1: you to call it the Ukraine because it suggests that

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Speaker 1: So um. I I know that a lot of people

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Speaker 1: not even nearly One of the uglier things, one of

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Speaker 1: I guess they don't consider that to be a sovereign nation.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know the the mainstream media outlets are

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Speaker 1: like every time there's a bad ship is happening, they

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Speaker 1: go down. Are briles? Uh? This is somebody I was

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Speaker 1: so this caught my I I am a Taylor grad

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Speaker 1: saw the conversation on Twitter being like wow, like Grambling

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Speaker 1: But basically, Art Briles, who was a disgraced um UH

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Speaker 1: coach of Baylor University who got outsted in sixteen for

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Speaker 1: first like back to like college level you know, UM

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Speaker 1: moment for Texas period. But yeah, I just as someone

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Speaker 1: very toxic figure. I do hope that, like they're taking

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Speaker 1: good Satter't nine policies in place to make sure that

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Speaker 1: Who was scary. A lot of women were not taken seriously,

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Speaker 1: they were not even policies back then for sexual assault.

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Speaker 1: There was no Title nine office until after our Briles

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Speaker 1: other people assault women. So you know, just be vigilant

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Speaker 1: Gramblings team. Yeah, all right, Uh, those are the things

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Speaker 1: that are trending on this Thursday afternoon. We are back

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Speaker 1: tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then,

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Speaker 1: be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, get

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Speaker 1: the vaccine, don't do nothing about white supremacy. Help trans

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Speaker 1: kids in Texas. There are a lot of places you

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Speaker 1: can donate and help the people who Ukraine. All right,

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Speaker 1: we will talk to you all tomorrow