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Speaker 1: We start off this first question we asked everybody when

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Speaker 1: your ass when.

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Speaker 2: I first got to the league. Yeah, oh man, when

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Speaker 2: I first got to the league, it's probably Kevin going that.

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Speaker 2: I mean we went hand to hand, you know, I

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Speaker 2: had I had thirty eight I think going to had

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Speaker 2: like forty four. And that was the first time I

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Speaker 2: felt like, all right, this is a real league right

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Speaker 2: here like this, You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: It's ain't no joke out here every night?

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Speaker 2: All right, man, y'all tuning in live bro we still

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Speaker 2: live on location shot Town. Who noise?

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about. We got my dog

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Speaker 3: in the building. Yeah, this that.

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Speaker 2: Start of my in the building. Man, y'all tuned in

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Speaker 2: like again. We about to talk a.

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Speaker 3: Whole lot, a whole lot.

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Speaker 2: Of Phoenix, New York, Israel. My dog got a lot

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Speaker 2: to say, wine baths. You don't know what might come up.

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Speaker 2: We about to do this. It's your boys, q Rich.

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Speaker 3: And d mails challenge on the podcast season two and

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Speaker 3: how we're thinking of what we do.

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Speaker 1: Like it's just like, how did y'all come up with

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Speaker 1: that is this thing on little script. We kind of

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Speaker 1: just get into it.

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Speaker 3: We come from an authentic old geek standpoint. You weren't

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Speaker 3: winning with just one star player. This is a story

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Speaker 3: that people don't know. This dude, have my shoes on right,

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Speaker 3: He just talking hot mess.

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Speaker 2: You know, we were just young and wanted to prove

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Speaker 2: ourselves and you were in the way. It's nice man,

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Speaker 2: he bought me some hony. Yeah, it's a gras a

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Speaker 2: great field, greatfield, Greatfield, Greatfield, greatfield, greatfield, geld.

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Speaker 4: You.

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Speaker 5: I went straight out of high school.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's like a fraternity secret.

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Speaker 1: It's only a few of us, you know what I'm

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Speaker 1: saying to make it and even just be here and

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Speaker 1: And I know you went through a crazy journ. I

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Speaker 1: went through two high schools. I went to two high schools.

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Speaker 1: Then I went straight out of high school. Like tell

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Speaker 1: us about like your journey on your high schools, like

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Speaker 1: from your freshman year all the way to your like

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Speaker 2: I had to make decisions on my own. My mom

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Speaker 2: was a gangster, so she was always locked up in

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Speaker 2: so I was going to late Was High School in Florida,

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Speaker 2: and I started hanging around the wrong crowd. So my

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Speaker 2: So I got a transfer and he said, well, there's

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Speaker 2: two options. You can go to Old Kill Academy or

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Speaker 2: Mount Zion o' killer Academy, all boys school, local. The

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Speaker 2: all boys school, I can't do it. Mount Zion. Tracey

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Speaker 2: McGrady went there. I remember that came out of high school.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, all right, cool, I go to Mysigon.

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Speaker 2: When I got to Mountsion, my design was a basketball factory.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was up there with fifty seniors and fifty

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Speaker 2: and everybody was like top players in the country, and

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Speaker 2: what is this. I'm not I'm not running this stadium.

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Speaker 2: First day of school, man, it was like six in

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Speaker 2: the morning. Coach, wake us up, all right, put us

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Speaker 2: and give us a guy in the water. There you

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Gallon old water?

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Speaker 2: Jumping the bus? Is ready to get on the bus.

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Speaker 2: Go to Duke football Stadium and run. He say, run

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Speaker 3: You see the side of the stadium. Man. I got halfway.

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Speaker 3: I got around the halfway back.

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Speaker 2: This is every day. So I realized at that point, like,

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Speaker 2: And so from that point on, I started taking basketball

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Speaker 2: like the top pay in the country. Because my freshman

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Speaker 2: drafted the eighteen so four years of playing organized basketball,

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Speaker 2: well even before then, like with my pre draft workouts. Man,

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Speaker 2: I remember my first workout, my preacher workout. My man say,

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Speaker 2: he say, dribble left hand, dribble to the left twice,

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Speaker 2: I know what, right, I don't know what you talking about.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about my dog. You couldn't say, man, he say,

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Speaker 2: next time we to when I saw you in summer league,

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Speaker 2: he said, I've never seen the player improve so much

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Speaker 2: because I was only been playing organized basketball for four years,

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Speaker 2: so I ain't know the fundamentals or how to do

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Speaker 3: So that I'm saying so for you, Like a lot

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Speaker 5: It was hard.

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Speaker 2: It was a long Do you really feel like it

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Speaker 2: was hard for you to make the NBA? Like you

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Speaker 2: started playing at fourteen? Four years later you getting drafted

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Speaker 2: number nine in the NBA, Like it was that? Did

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Speaker 3: Did it seem like this was like something that was

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Speaker 2: It wasn't. It didn't feel hard at all. Man, I

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Speaker 2: felt like I felt like it was a God gift,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I was tall, I was athletic,

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Speaker 2: played football all my years. To play football was always

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Speaker 2: fast and quick, you know what I'm saying. Then I

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Speaker 2: So it made it that much easier to be like organized,

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Speaker 2: I was able to it all just manifest during my life.

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Speaker 3: Sophomore junior in high school. What would you say?

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Speaker 2: Because I remember when I first met you at Jordan

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Speaker 2: That was who you kind of hung tight with then

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Speaker 2: Jack Jack shout out, Jared Jack. That was you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I was cool, But I just remember

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Speaker 2: you being like super raw, super but like relentless. I'm

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Speaker 2: he played hardest hard, Like what did you get that from?

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Speaker 2: You think that was from you moving around a lot

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Speaker 2: I'm about to go. I'm getting there, Like even when

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Speaker 2: I got to the Suns. That's what I remember this.

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Speaker 2: Remember we calling you well, I'm I said, yo, this

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Speaker 3: He making noise. I'm like, man, what is happening right now?

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Speaker 2: Like like where that comes from? I mean, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It was something natural that took place.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was just like the swagger when I played.

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Speaker 2: saying them, And they just kept developing that. You know,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to make noise. He literally all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: You're looking crazy. He's swelling up after us comes down.

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Speaker 2: He had thunk that thing still going up like boy,

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Speaker 2: I remember and playoffs.

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Speaker 3: In Memphis when you strow. Oh he threw it. Man,

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Speaker 3: He his wrist and he overpowered him. He tad, you know,

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Speaker 3: He caught that risk that car back and threw it

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Speaker 3: I was screaming my height land always yeah, coming into

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Speaker 3: could do that. Well he just did. I'm about to

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Speaker 3: go crazy out here. Follow you. You remember dunking on

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Speaker 3: him at Jordan Camp, right, you don't remember that. I

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Speaker 3: talked ship to you. I talked bad to you about

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Speaker 5: Didn't count that as a dump.

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Speaker 3: Look I counted it back then.

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Speaker 2: I might everything. He was swapping man, swapping trol. I

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Speaker 2: got a gut, damn you race around here man and

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Speaker 2: that's why.

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Speaker 3: I say it was nasty. Oh, I said, he just

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Speaker 3: you know it was interesting man like I had I want.

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Speaker 3: I won't know where it came from, but I had

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Speaker 3: no fear. That's a fact. That's a fact. That's a fact.

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Speaker 2: Like a lot of times guys could draft you get

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Speaker 2: you see like these players that are like gods on

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Speaker 2: nerve basically right like man, this dude like that's how

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Speaker 2: we looking at him like man like she.

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Speaker 1: But for me, I like my fear was gone. He

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Speaker 1: I was being nervous when my mom made me concentrate

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Speaker 5: That's not butterfly. That's you so anxious to get out

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Speaker 1: So when I when I used to feel something, even

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Speaker 3: So we was going going at whoever, they know that whoever.

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Speaker 3: I was in the game. It was against the Clippers

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Speaker 2: Man, when Steph making the crazy face, crazy face literally

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Speaker 2: He just dropped the hammering, went up a whole other

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's Lashty was stupid telling you when you got

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Speaker 3: Woned me for sure. Yeah, so she was happy with Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I had success with Steph. You did it was pretty

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Speaker 3: Talk about how sick they was.

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Speaker 2: Like remember how many times we would be on a

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Speaker 3: We came in that it was like, okay, they for

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Speaker 1: Y'all came out of out of nowhere, dominanting y'all was

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Speaker 1: I remember watching the game y'all played against the Timberwolves,

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Speaker 5: I just remember watching that game vividly.

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Speaker 1: But that year was so amazing for y'all that I thought,

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Speaker 1: But how did you feel to feel like like I'm here?

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Speaker 2: You know, it was like my style of game was

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Speaker 3: So I was I was able.

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Speaker 2: I was able to somewhat utilize my speed, quickness, and

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Speaker 3: Was setting the table.

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Speaker 2: Bro I'm telling you. People always would ask us, what

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Speaker 2: And we don't even want the ball to touch the ground,

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Speaker 3: First.

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Speaker 2: I was the first mall I played with. Mike put

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Speaker 2: But then something happened when he got a coach. I

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Speaker 1: And then it was over with I guess so I

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Speaker 2: The tricks he was grabbing ten boys a game, big

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Speaker 2: When you had Joe being a point guard for really nobody,

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Speaker 3: They were scared man waited and got doubled at.

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Speaker 3: It was it was experience, man, they had.

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Speaker 2: They had a cold system and they ran into a

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Speaker 3: We we like they remembered what we talked about all

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Speaker 2: We allowed them to put Tony Parker on me and

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Speaker 3: That was the advantage we didn't. He didn't never, he never.

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Speaker 3: He didn't like that way to play. He wanted to

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Speaker 2: He felt like even remember when he's trying to do plays,

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Speaker 2: I used to be like, man, all I gotta do

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Speaker 2: like that because he was able to but we were

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00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,119
Speaker 2: able to be that way. What made it easily. We

439
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 2: all were you know, we were good dudes. We had

440
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 2: we had great relationships. That's what really the cord of

441
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 2: what made work was our relationships out togetherness when we

442
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 2: came together that that month of August and September before

443
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 2: like we literally we hung out. We hung out, play Domino's,

444
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 2: played cards, had barbecue and Nash was there.

445
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 3: That what I'm telling you that that's one of the

446
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 3: guys man the night white dude Canadian here, he ain't

447
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 3: gonna be went out with us.

448
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 2: On the road to the hood clubs with us right

449
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 2: doing him. Like what it was was was was he

450
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 2: allowed all of us to be a better version of ourselves.

451
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 2: Because we knew he was gonna take care of you.

452
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 2: You didn't have to worry about it, to worry about, Hey,

453
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 2: I gotta take this shot this time because if I

454
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 2: don't get the ball because the way offense went, it

455
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 2: was so funny that I might not get the ball

456
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 2: for six seven straight possessions, but then I might get

457
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 2: it the next five straight. He might not get it

458
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: for four or five and then the best part about

459
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 2: Steve Nash is that he had an intuition hold on Amaris.

460
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 2: Starting to feel kind of like this let me get

461
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 2: him a ploun give fuck what the play is. I'm

462
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 2: gonna do this, Oh Q starting to get it. He

463
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 2: ain't got a shot a minute. Let me go run

464
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 2: in front of him and just scoop the ball and screen. Yeah,

465
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 2: he gonna, he gonna. When I say he gonna put it,

466
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 2: he gonna cater it to you. I don't care what's

467
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 2: going on, and he ain't gonna do it. It ain't

468
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 2: gonna be disrespectful to coach. It ain't gonna be disrespectful

469
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 2: to the play. He just was cold, you know what

470
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

471
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 3: He was gonna.

472
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: The next year that y'all played, y'all didn't have you

473
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 1: no more. Y'all didn't have the same team. Like what

474
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 1: you felt like, I.

475
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 2: Ain't know what was going on, man, because I wasn't.

476
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: I wasn't like all the way looped in on what

477
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 2: was going on in the off seasons. It just started,

478
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, And things started happening. I'm like, man,

479
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 2: hold on, what's going on?

480
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 5: Like it wasn't the same no with my guys that yeah, you.

481
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: Know, and it felt different. And then Joe then the

482
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: next year, Joe was going Now Joe left the same Yeah,

483
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 2: I left. We both left the same, right, So I'm like,

484
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 2: hold on, man, Like what like? Yeah, hm, so I

485
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 2: ain't know what I was hot man, I'm not gonna lie.

486
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 2: We get another shot at it. Bro, we knew got

487
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 2: us when we was big hot. I was big hot

488
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 2: and Joe. Joe only wanted like a certain amount of money.

489
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: I said that he was gonna set a for less Man. Yeah,

490
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: he was signed for a lot. It was signed for

491
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 2: like thirty Lesson would end up getting. He wanted six years,

492
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: thirty six million. At the beginning of the season, skiddish

493
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: because he had just signed me and Steve Nash and

494
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: he didn't want to like everybody, Rex Chapman, David Griffin.

495
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 3: Was like, bro, we have to do this.

496
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 2: You gotta sign Joe. We have to like gotta keep

497
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 2: you see me one more shot at it. He was

498
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: a three point champ that year in the three point shootout.

499
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We all saw on the squad.

500
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: We got a squad building chemistry.

501
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

502
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 5: I dominated at All Star.

503
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah remember this at all Start. Oh remember they didn't

504
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: want to let me in and Steve Nash had the

505
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 2: big boy. Yeah, They was trying to say that my

506
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: field goal percentage, even though I was leading the league

507
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: and makes and attemption at this point, they were saying

508
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 2: my percentage didn't need the stance whatever. Steve nash that then,

509
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: like the like the gangster he is, Steve telling people,

510
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 2: don't know one of the realist ever, fir that boy used.

511
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 3: To be with us. You hear me with us doing

512
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 3: him but with us everywhere. That's what made us so good.

513
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 2: But Steve told them people they want to Steven that

514
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 2: has been in the skills competition. You know he's Steve

515
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 2: that they want him in. Man, He's all right, you

516
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: ain't gonna be in that like he's supposed to be.

517
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be in that point context. Then I

518
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: go out there and say, you know what, I'm gonna

519
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 2: win this thing to go ahead and make my boy

520
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: move look right and make y'all look crazy for trying

521
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: to play with me anyway. You know what I'm saying,

522
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: Like we we we swept, we cleaned the house, we

523
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 2: wrapped that weekend is in the building. Two All Star

524
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: Skills Challenge and a three point Chimp and the little

525
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: thing with Dan Marley and tricks and Tai with him

526
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 2: like they want that little thing.

527
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 3: Boy, we rap.

528
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: We came back like they thinking like man man, we

529
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: had bro we had cartoons, funny gun sons or they

530
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 2: come we running, they playing the drums, We passing Stevens passion.

531
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: We shoot three, he dunk and it was like a

532
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: cartoon and field. Well, well we were so on big own.

533
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: I had never said talk about Remember when when we

534
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 2: landed in Dallas for the first time, when Steve Nash

535
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: went back, craziest.

536
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 3: Scene up and the fans was nuts man at the

537
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: airport when we landed there for Stevie. Boy, that's why

538
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 3: I threw what I called Stevie on the strip. Every game.

539
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 3: It ain't known until Stevie go in that bathroom and

540
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 3: throw that water in his head.

541
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: When it's that it ain't time to run out until

542
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 2: Steve do that. I promise, that's the That's the indicator

543
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: were about.

544
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 3: To get out of here.

545
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: So free agent come after you. You be with with

546
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: Phoenix and you set your mark. You're dominating in the league,

547
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: your household name. You go to the Knicks like why

548
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: the Necks, like what made you choose the next step?

549
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: Waned through the sign of Phoenix. That was an ultimate

550
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: gold And I sat down with the owners and the

551
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 2: staff and the coaches and we we we're talking about

552
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: the plans and we're trying to negotiate, and the negotiating

553
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 2: tactic was he came to me said, well, we got

554
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 2: guys that's gonna replace you tomorrow. Like what we just

555
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: we just got to the We just went to the

556
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 2: Western Finals. Four years out of five out of six years.

557
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: We just got to the semi final. We lost to

558
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: the Legers with an airball shot that run our test hit,

559
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: caught it and scored at the last second. We got

560
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: a chance that we got a chance to still win

561
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 2: a title. And you come to me like like this.

562
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: I'm looking like, listen, man, I just aver aged twenty

563
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: six a game, First team All NBA. You're coming at

564
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 2: me like this, like we got a chance, we got

565
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 2: a chance to win the title here. So I was like, listen, man,

566
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: here's the criterias. You know, if we can make this happen,

567
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: we can keep the ball rolling. We got a great

568
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: medical staff, we got a great one to two combinations

569
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: with myself and Steve. Don't change it up. He was like, well,

570
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 2: I don't know this that and the third all right,

571
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: cool hit, fregency hit. Miami called me, Houston called me,

572
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: New York called me somethinking like I want to be

573
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: the best scenario. Miami wasn't quite sure what's going on

574
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: far as with the third. They're trying to get Lebron.

575
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: Everyone's trying to get Lebron at this point, and Boshington

576
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 2: d Way got the same agent, so they're they're they're

577
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: working out therap kinks. Lebron is still trying to fail.

578
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 2: Way you want to go, And I can't sit around

579
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: and wait to see what someone else is gonna do,

580
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I was like, you

581
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: know what I got. I got history of Mike d'An tony.

582
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 2: I was raised in New York. I was in New

583
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: York for seven years in my childhood years. So I

584
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: was like, I love New York City. There's a great

585
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: chance to not only not only turn the team around,

586
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: but also build my brand off the court. Some time,

587
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: I'm going to New York. So I went and met

588
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: with Mike, and I met with the owners of New

589
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: York and I sat down with them, and the situation

590
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: was perfect for me, and I was like all right,

591
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: let's do it.

592
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: I look good, man, especially when you first hit down

593
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: and that like rocking, you could feel it coming.

594
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

595
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: I want you to talk about how it was because

596
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: you know, we know how the landscape of everything is,

597
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 2: and a lot of dudes are afraid to step up

598
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 2: into that New York Knicks Madison Square guarden and say

599
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be that dude.

600
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 3: I'nna be that guy, and.

601
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: You know what come with it, you know, the criticism,

602
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: the scrutiny or the spotlight everything. And I felt like

603
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: you was that dude that stood up amongst the superstars,

604
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: the Max guys and was like I ain't tripping, like

605
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: what's up? Like let me And then not only that

606
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 2: stood up accept the champ, but then when you got

607
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: there was putting it down.

608
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 3: This is my take.

609
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 2: That trade was a horrible trade for Mellow when they

610
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: could have just waited to the offseason and signed them.

611
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 3: And added it with all of that y'all y'all had

612
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: and y'all on.

613
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 2: You was the first one, and still to this day

614
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: they ain't really do it. I mean Mellow was next,

615
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: and he stepped up. I mean as far as forcing

616
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: the trade and coming through and accepting and signing back

617
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: and saying I'm gonna be that dude.

618
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: But for real, you was the first one.

619
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: Of the big boys, the big name guys whatever you

620
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: want to call them, just stepped up to that plate

621
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: and then handled it and didn't It was it was unfair.

622
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 3: You got that start taking wine bass? Bro? What's that? Yeah?

623
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: You know what?

624
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't be years after man the wine bass.

625
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: But I was all. I was all. I was in

626
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: golf in New York. Man, I me in New York,

627
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: my home. You know what I'm saying.

628
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: I was going to I was going to the met gallas,

629
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: the top fashion gallas in the world. I was going

630
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: to the operas. I was going to all the Broadway shows.

631
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: I was in the mix with the people in New York.

632
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: How did you get so cultured?

633
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: Though?

634
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: Like from coming from Florida where you came from, transferring around,

635
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: going through different scenarios and stuff. Then you like when

636
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: I met you, and you know what I'm saying, you

637
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: straight out of high school still had braces. I remember

638
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: you missing shoot around like I'm not coming, I can

639
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: get these braces off. And they was like, well, He's like, no,

640
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: I'm not coming like you're saying, but like going from there,

641
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: from being a country boy from Florida, you know what

642
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying, to now you got you you at like

643
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: you say, all of the top fashion shows, you you

644
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: got this, you got a really pristine taste in art,

645
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: you got wines, all of these different things. Did no

646
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: one like twelve thirteen year you didn't think that?

647
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: Did or did you?

648
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: No? I mean that when I was when I was

649
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,719
Speaker 2: thirteen or so, I had already lived in New York

650
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: for quite some time. I was already there for like

651
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: four or five years, so I had already kind of

652
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: experienced a New York taste when I was when I

653
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: was young, because I left Florida in the third grade.

654
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: My mother and our family we moved to New York

655
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: and I was there until like this eighth grade, and

656
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: then from there I moved back to I moved to Atlanta,

657
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: and then I moved back to Florida. So I was

658
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: well cultured as a kid because we moved around. The

659
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: travel a lot, right, and then so when I got

660
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: in the NBA, I wanted that to keep happening. And

661
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: Phoenix was a great. It was great for me from

662
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: a basketball standpoint because it wasn't so much to do,

663
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: it wasn't about to get into and I would focus

664
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: on basketball almost you know what I'm saying, eighty percent

665
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: of the time. But I wanted more. I was wanting more,

666
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: but I was putting the winning over wanting more. So

667
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: I was willing to stay in Phoenix just to win.

668
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: But if that wasn't gonna happen, then I want to

669
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: achieve more. So then I said, you know, I'm gonna

670
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: go New York. When I first got there, I went

671
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: to the Broadway shows. I start, you know what I'm saying,

672
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: learning how the culture is in New York City. And

673
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: then once I signed, the goal was to not only

674
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: be you know, the guy and the basketball team that

675
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: helped bring the organization back, but also show the world

676
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: what New York has to offer to help recruit other

677
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: players that come to New York. So that's when I

678
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: was like, you know what, let me get all the

679
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: way in golf in New York. Let me go to

680
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: the Matt Gallas. I'm gonna get in the fashion shows.

681
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit down to the front road the fashion shows.

682
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to all these prestige events. To show

683
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: the rest of the league on what New York is

684
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: all about.

685
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 5: Cracking.

686
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and that's how I got all the way

687
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: involved in all those different activities. So we both, I mean,

688
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: you got to play with them. We all know Mellow

689
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: very well.

690
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: And all of us are sitting here looking at this situation.

691
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: I mean, me and Darius.

692
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: So I don't know how I want to ask you

693
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: how you feel about we sitting here looking at it

694
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: like this is crazy that he even in this scenario.

695
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: Want to know, you know what I'm saying, What do

696
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: you think? You know what I'm saying. Sitting there?

697
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: You just somebody you want the battle with who you know,

698
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: where his heart at, where his you know what I'm saying,

699
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: where his goals and his mind at, where he was

700
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: about winning? And you see all this foolishness coming out

701
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: about him questioning and like the fact that he's not

702
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 2: on a roster right now.

703
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 3: That's the most preposterous.

704
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: Team thing going on for me right now with that scenario.

705
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: What do you think about everything? I mean, you know, Mellow,

706
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: you want to just play basketball, man. You know you

707
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: know how we do it. We like to play basketballt

708
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: high level and we're trying to put ourselves in a

709
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: position to play at a high level by any means.

710
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: And so he's still trying to, you know, solidify that

711
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: he still can play, and he can't. I mean, I

712
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: don't see how Mel's not on a team held. He

713
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: can definitely be on a team, and he's willing to

714
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: sacrifice playing time or positioning to be on a team.

715
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: And not only on a team.

716
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: He can help a team. He's an offensive juggernaut. He

717
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: can score the best of him still right now today,

718
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: and he for sure deserve to be on the team,

719
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: no question about it. Yeah, man, I think it's just

720
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: been a disjustice just being being done to him. It's

721
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: going around with a lot of guys, man. I mean

722
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: I've I noticed that too, even with Ai last few

723
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: years of his career, you know, they it was a

724
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: similar situation, you know what I'm saying, where he knew

725
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: he had a lot left in the tank, but even

726
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: teams wasn't really willing to sign him, you know what

727
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And Meler got a lot left in the tank.

728
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: I see him training all the time. He's a New

729
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: York He's always ball and keeping himself in shape, and

730
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: he for sure, for sure can playing in the league.

731
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: No question.

732
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 5: What team would you put him on if you had

733
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 5: to choose a team.

734
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 3: Golden State? R If I had to toose the team

735
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: right now to put him on.

736
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: That's what I would say. I would say Golden State.

737
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: Oh it's a good question, man. I think at this point,

738
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: at this point, any team, a lot of teams can

739
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: use his uh, his expertise, you know what I'm saying

740
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: from a scoring standpoint. Golden said he's a high up

741
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: tempo team. It may it may it may be a

742
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: little bit too high up tempo for mellow ah. But

743
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: I also think the Clippers, for one, would be kind

744
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: of a solid team for him. I think Doc Rivers

745
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: kind of have a firm idea on how you want

746
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: to run his team, get you can get him going.

747
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 2: I would say the Legas, but they got too many,

748
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: uh they got too many guys in the roster, too many,

749
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 2: too many superstars in their team already, so it'll be

750
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: tough for him to fit in there personalities on that

751
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 2: team already.

752
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: But I think the.

753
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: Clippers will be, especially with what you said with Doc,

754
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: because I think that's the to me. Wherever he goes,

755
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 2: he has to be on the one accord with the coach,

756
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: and the coach has to be somebody who has that

757
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 2: rep that can.

758
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: Try to Miami won't be bad.

759
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 2: And yeah you got you got Jimmy Bucker already there

760
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: at the two spot. You bring Mellow in there. You

761
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: got two guys that can not only sell tickets, but

762
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: they can also play high love basketball. The rest of

763
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 2: the guys gotta fit in. Some whiteside that's going to Portland.

764
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: They got banned at the five like they got some

765
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: young boys that can get after it. You know what

766
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Miami won't be a basketball either, and he

767
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: gonna be in tipidy time. Yeah, ain't gonna be in

768
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 2: Miami and gonna keep you in top shape, no question.

769
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 3: You know that Every Monday, Every Monday, that thing change

770
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 3: how you live your life. You can't even go out right.

771
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 2: You be like, all right, boy, you can have about

772
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: two three of them now you all right, okay this

773
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: Saturday Monday.

774
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 3: You know what we got to do.

775
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 5: Facts?

776
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 2: So how was it then? What what I mean when

777
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: you went to Israel to play? How how did that

778
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: whole everything come together and come about? I was I

779
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: was in New York with the Knicks, and buddy and

780
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: mine called me and said, hey, Martin, is a team

781
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 2: out in Israel and this is when this is when,

782
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: like I went to visit ru in twenty ten. I

783
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: think it was when I first signed in New York.

784
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: That's somewmer I went to go. I went to Israel.

785
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: You have to visit. And then so when they found

786
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: out about my roots and what I was studying, then

787
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 2: it became something more than what I wanted to be right.

788
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: We wanted to keep it low. I was there to

789
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: study and learn, but it became something big. So what

790
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: happened was a few years later, maybe a year and

791
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: a half later, a buddy of mine called me and said, hey, Mark,

792
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: there's a team out in Israel that's up for auction.

793
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 2: Like what do you mean though for auction? He said,

794
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: the previous owner. No one can find him. He's been

795
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 2: going for years when I sure where he is. But

796
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 2: the team is not up for auction within the government

797
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: and the bidding is somewhat low. Do you want to

798
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 2: be a partner in it? I'm like, hey, man giving

799
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: back to Israel.

800
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 3: Why not?

801
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 2: It's like he won't be a money maker, But hey,

802
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 2: if you you want to get back to Israel. You

803
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: want to be a part of Jerusalem. The team is

804
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: in Jerusalem, and you can you know, you have an

805
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: opportunity to be a part of the ownership. I was

806
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: like cool, so I got involved in it. I played

807
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: like another four years in NBA, and I wanted to

808
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: somewhat go on as like a sabbatical trip and learn more.

809
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 3: I remember this.

810
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: So then that's when I went to Israel to play

811
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: and I played for j Rousalem and I was still

812
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: learning ever since.

813
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 3: That was dumb.

814
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: And then you want a chip with them too? Yeah

815
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: that was the first one, right yepant won a championship.

816
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 2: Then you know what I'm saying when m VP all

817
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: that straight up? But you got to tell me what happened?

818
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: Then? Had you start taking the wine baths?

819
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 5: Bro?

820
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 3: You know what man? I was that?

821
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: Let me just say that blew me totally away. I

822
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: seen my I said, hold up, bro, how much do

823
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: that coach?

824
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: This man?

825
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: Just just.

826
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: It costs like costs like.

827
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: Three hundred dollars man to get your wine bath, and

828
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: it got these spies in New York. Or you can

829
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: go on like take the wine bath. You can take

830
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 2: a wine bas so let so, so, how did you

831
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: was this you like doing your culture find like expiracy things.

832
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: Then you just know, you know it. It was a gift. Uh,

833
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 3: it was a gift that someone gifted me. I got

834
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: that only in New York, only in New York. It

835
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 3: was a New York I got. I got a gift.

836
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: I got a gift from this from this young lady

837
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: man and she and she gave me this gift for

838
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: my birthday, right, and it was a to go to

839
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,959
Speaker 2: this ancient spa and you go there and the gift

840
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: was the wine bath. So you go there and you

841
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: check into your locker and you go to the just

842
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: like it's like a hot tub and it's full of

843
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: wine and water and you sit. It's like eighty percent

844
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: wine twenty percent water. And you sit there in the

845
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: wine bath and you just chill. They bring you in

846
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: a separate glass of wine. They bring some ice water,

847
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: so you drinking wine in the wine bab. I'm just

848
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: sitting there, Yeah, I'm just sitting there vibing. I said,

849
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: you know, I don't take self. He's gonna get the

850
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: self to the self being all away from Florida viral.

851
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: The wine vad boy went viral.

852
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: It went viral, bro and ever since that point on,

853
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: it's like everyone keeps asking me about the bad. But

854
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: that's something that was a gift that I happened to.

855
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: Just you know what I'm saying.

856
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: You enjoyed this, man, Yeah it was great. Did so

857
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 3: what did it make you feel?

858
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: Like?

859
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 3: What are the what are their benefits or whatever you

860
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 3: get from it?

861
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 2: I mean that was dehydrated because you and that it's hot,

862
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: you sweating, you know what I'm saying. You in this

863
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: wine bath. So it's a hot wine bad.

864
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: It's hot.

865
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: It's like a hot it's like a hot bath. Okay, okay,

866
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 2: and so you just yeah, you're just sitting there and

867
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: just chilling. Man. You sit there for like thirty minutes

868
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: or so, like a regular hot bath. You're initially feeling dehydrated,

869
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 2: and your body after you, after you kind of rejuvenate,

870
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: your body feels like you feel light, you know what

871
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And you know you keep doing that over No,

872
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: you don't feel good.

873
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 5: Who was that one player that.

874
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: He was like you know how you always got the

875
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: plan and he always have a good game, or or

876
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: it was something about him that he always had your number.

877
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: Who was that one player that you used to play against.

878
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: It used to bring that to the table.

879
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: Man, it was all it was two players. It was

880
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: always dirt and the whiskey. I could never stop him.

881
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: I mean than the game of chests Manan we had.

882
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: We had to put tricks on him. Yeah, I couldn't

883
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: check him. Man, it was seven to one with the

884
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 2: fade one leg fade he gained and I tried to

885
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: get into his body. Too strong to get into his

886
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: body to the rest call files.

887
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: And file quick. So I'm trying to chest.

888
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to figure how to play him without

889
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: getting foules because the team needs me not to be

890
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: in foul trouble. But it was tough to figure that

891
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: figured out. Yeah, and Sean kind of had to. Like

892
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: the next game we play, both.

893
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: Big threes had to go on dirt. Yeah, like basically powerful.

894
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: It's hard for him because he's really a three exactly.

895
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: In the playoffs on the fight away fade that's the

896
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: back one leg trying to do something.

897
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 3: Another player to that gave me problems. Andre Carolinko.

898
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: That was so my entire career. That was my hardest

899
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: matchup off. Like you know, I put he was my

900
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: night man AKA.

901
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 3: He wouldn't stop moving. Every Wings fan, bro, he wouldn't

902
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: stop moving.

903
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 5: He ran under every good time in Utah.

904
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, every time.

905
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 5: I love his as though I used.

906
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: To be going yeah yeah, but defensively like me guarding him. Yeah,

907
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: it's always like if I'm watching the ball and trying

908
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: to see.

909
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: Us, he's already gone.

910
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: So by the time they swing, I got to relocate

911
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: rush out, He's at the basket. It was tough to

912
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: keep up with him. It was a hard matchup for me.

913
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, this, your duo the best due

914
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 2: all you and Steve Nash. If you had to pick

915
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 2: somebody else to be a duo, who was the best

916
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: fit for you? That you played with, that you felt

917
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: like we was clicking, we could have maybe been.

918
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 3: The second best after him after that I played.

919
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 5: With Yeah, that you played with.

920
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: USA team or whoever, whoever you just you felt like,

921
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: oh clicked with I feel like that would have been

922
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: a good duo.

923
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean Raymond Felton and I had a

924
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: good run in New York. I mean ray was also

925
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 2: in the same high school class. I'll say you rock

926
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: with him to Jordan too. Yeah, So So we had

927
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: good chemistry in New York because we were learning each other.

928
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: It's all about learning each other, man, Like like with Steve,

929
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: Steve was an engine. You feel me, He get the

930
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: ball and we and we got to keep up with him.

931
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: Far as the pace, everybody can do what they do.

932
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I'm gonna finish your f

933
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 2: a three point shooter Joe off the dribble. So once

934
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 2: you got that formula figured out on what guys can do,

935
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: and the point guard's job is to get the ball

936
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: positions right, Me and Ray were starting to figure that

937
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: part out that first half of New York. All right,

938
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: cool Ray and Viving. Yeah, yeah, I mean I was

939
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 2: hoping y'all was hooping. So, I mean, as far as

940
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 2: the USA Games, I played with Ai, I played with Braun,

941
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 2: play with I play with a lot of great players,

942
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: But to have a point guard who is not afraid

943
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: to pass the ball first, it's always the best thing

944
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 2: for all players on the court.

945
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 5: I always looked for point guard.

946
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

947
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: I feel like if I had a dope point guard

948
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: to find me when it's time to find me, I'm

949
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: gonna be successful.

950
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the team gonna be successful, you don't win.

951
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: You don't have fun winning with James Harden's success. Did

952
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: y'all want Nast to shoot the ball more with James

953
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 2: hard success?

954
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean no, seeing the success of James Harden in

955
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: that system and like you know how you know, I

956
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: like like in the playoffs they used to say, like, man,

957
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: Nash needs to score more, like it was cool doing

958
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: it all.

959
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 3: They tried him.

960
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 5: But needs to score more? Y'all heard it before.

961
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when Nash see Nash, whenever he was open

962
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: his he shot the ball. When they force his in

963
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: saying they go under on pick and rolls, he shoots it.

964
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 2: Penetrate the big stays with me. On the pick and

965
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: roll he got like a fifteen foot jumper, come sho.

966
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So he was always playing

967
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: the game the way the game was supposed to be played.

968
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: You feel me. So everyone can say, ah, he should

969
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 3: have shot more, but.

970
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: He was playing the game the right way playing and

971
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: think about it like this, though, if he did shoot more,

972
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: then we don't be what we were. You feel me

973
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: like him sacrificing whatever shots people might have wanted him

974
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: to take and doing what he did, he allowed everybody

975
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: else to blossom their full potential, which made us better

976
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 2: as a whole overall team because with that much talent

977
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: and everybody trying to get out the block, like we

978
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 2: had go get us tricks trying to get another bag.

979
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: He on his rookie deal, trying to establish himself as

980
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: a boy in his league, and he was like literally

981
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: our best player, but he tricks on the Max.

982
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 3: Me and Stevie just got paid. Joe trying him and

983
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 3: Joe trying to get paid, but he.

984
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: Got for real best player overall, tricks, Olympian, all of that,

985
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 2: all star Max player, you feel me Like, So, if

986
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: it wasn't for Stevie coming in and handling things the

987
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: way he did, he kept so much in check.

988
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 3: Bro, I'm telling you Steve used to do just by

989
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 3: the way he played, right.

990
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: That was that that eliminated so much that could have

991
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: popped off that you see popping off on a lot

992
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: of teams. Man, he take hisself out and then just

993
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: the way he was with us, Bro, I was shocked

994
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: by that, Like, man, this boy, now what we're going

995
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: to night? Guys like oh word word like okay, Like

996
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 2: that made you embrace and bring him in like boy,

997
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 2: he wanted us for real.

998
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 5: So that's that was part of your success, him coming in.

999
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: And camaraderie, hanging out with us, like he remember my

1000
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: birthday party about crib Day when we bust people with Bro,

1001
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: it was stupid crazy. We're like stupid busses from La

1002
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: coming to Phoenix. Bro facts, it was crazy crazy. We

1003
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: had a ball man we used to I thought we

1004
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: used to for real, getting in tricks barbecue and all

1005
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: the time we over his how like it was every

1006
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: time it was always Then we got an old g

1007
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: Jim Jack come to the team, like we we had

1008
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 2: one of the coolest squads, Bro, Like think about Jake

1009
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: Voskuol was super cool, even Casey Jacobs.

1010
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 3: Saying sure we're cool. Like the whole time, Bro, what

1011
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 3: was my man?

1012
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: N ain't the first ever Japanese player, y'all sue ya

1013
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 2: ya ya need to.

1014
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 3: He was super cool.

1015
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 4: Man.

1016
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 3: We had man man and that was all the one

1017
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 3: year Bro Steve when they traded Steven.

1018
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: One year Bro Steve Nass and Mike Cray Wedding called

1019
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: me from the bar like at the reception, like, what

1020
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: the hell is going? That's when I first got traded.

1021
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: He called me like, bro, I don't like what the

1022
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: hell is going on? I'm trying he trying to call

1023
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: everybody figure out Like just like you said, nobody ain't

1024
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 2: say nothing. They started pulling triggers, make trading me like

1025
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: we went into the.

1026
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: Means.

1027
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: Everything was told us and the top priority was to

1028
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: sign Joe and we coming back, going to take another

1029
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: stab back we go home. Whenever that thing started. I

1030
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 2: was the first trip I got traded. Then they signed

1031
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 2: Rajah Belen. Joe was like what, like, how you gonna

1032
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 2: sign any wing before me? He was done right there

1033
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: like y'all tripping like they still talking were Then they

1034
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: told him to go get his own market and show

1035
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 2: it that he would have got that bag eight and

1036
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: then became a six time All Star, went on to

1037
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: get one hundred and twenty something after that with us,

1038
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 2: y'all completely tripped. Y'all gonna have here for thirty six

1039
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: and they got with a shan. Then they let me

1040
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 2: go and then they ain't made the playoffs since you

1041
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 2: hear me, they made they playoff since for all of

1042
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 2: our cause we got I'm telling you, we got hard

1043
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: core fans for that oh four five you see, we

1044
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: the team. They put on two K and all of

1045
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: the retro Greatest team stuff like for the fans, because

1046
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: I tell people this all the time when I guess

1047
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: anytime any of us get back together, we all talk

1048
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: about that and how.

1049
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 3: We wish we would have had another run at it.

1050
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: Man, I mean we would just think how some of

1051
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: these teams had two three shots that if we had

1052
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 2: that original five for two three fourth and we would

1053
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 2: have got us to ring no question, ain't no question

1054
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: about it was already right there.

1055
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 3: We got us two rings, bro Lee, we ain't have

1056
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: no second shot at it.

1057
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: We could have came back to next. She ain't had

1058
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 2: adjustments like, look, we could have posted Tony.

1059
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 3: Made it b Yeah.

1060
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: And I'm talking about years later, bro I swear when

1061
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: I was working for the Pistons, I worked for the business.

1062
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 2: When D'Antoni had first got back in the league, he

1063
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 2: was like a special assistant or something with with Philly.

1064
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: When we first got back and we sat on the

1065
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 2: sideline and he was sitting there, he was like, I

1066
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: let him pressure me.

1067
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 3: I screwed that up. I let him pressure me.

1068
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: Into thinking that we needed a big because when they

1069
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: traded me for Kurt Thomas, right they traded me for.

1070
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: And that's no disrespect to Kirk, but that wasn't our team.

1071
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 3: That wasn't that wasn't what we were doing. Kurts picking

1072
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 3: pop pick slow hard front that you hit that fifteen

1073
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 3: was a great, dude, great, great, great, It wasn't.

1074
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: It wasn't what we were And y'all went and tweak

1075
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: this and tweet that. Then Roger great player, great win great,

1076
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: defend everything. He ain't Joe Johnson, though, you know what

1077
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like it ain't no disrespect to him and

1078
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: nobody else, but it's just like.

1079
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 4: It's not.

1080
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 3: Made two hundred over two hundred me Like he's not

1081
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 3: a Joe Johns. That's not disrespect for that. As a

1082
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 3: basketball guy, we know that. If us about it, that's

1083
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 3: not what I'm saying. We could have handled that property.

1084
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 2: Like listen, Keith Q, we keep Joe, let's build our

1085
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: bench strong, and let's get back out here.

1086
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 3: We still have Leandro. Leandro was young. He was just

1087
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 3: getting to give us.

1088
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: They didn't man Sweart, that was the one thing. But

1089
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: you remember the house I was building. I was that

1090
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: that hurt me more than get traded for a modern

1091
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: futuristic I.

1092
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: Had a river, two different river going around this mother.

1093
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: You got a river in your backyard, just just like

1094
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: trying to live and how many I'm trying to look.

1095
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: You can remember we could drive a coach bust through

1096
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: my front door. I say, I'm talking you.

1097
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 3: It was that big. But you could drive a free

1098
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 3: coach through the front door.

1099
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 5: Man, you're playing in the Big Three.

1100
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: If you had to pick two other players to make

1101
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: your Big three all time, whoever, who would you pick?

1102
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 3: You want? That means like a Big three team or

1103
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 3: on my Big.

1104
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: Three team, but you can pick anybody you want to

1105
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: play basketball, man, and the prime Yeah, whenever, the greatest whatever.

1106
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm going with the Goat for showing you

1107
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 3: know who that is.

1108
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: Like, you know, for those silly people out there that

1109
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 2: I'm Internet trolls talking that food. We are clarified for y'all,

1110
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: clarified for the future references on this Knuckleheads podcast if

1111
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: we ever mentioned him, him, Jay, the Goat, the best,

1112
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: the greatest wing about nobody. But but Michael jeff No,

1113
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 2: don't get it misconstrued. We don't want to do this

1114
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: every time. Michael Jordan, Mike Jordan's I'm bringing I gotta

1115
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: have Shack told you gotta get shocked. And then my

1116
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 2: third I would have to probably go with Tougher and

1117
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 2: then the playmaker. I need like a point guard. If

1118
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: I don't go with Nash, I gotta go with I'm

1119
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 2: gonna go with probably Steph Curry. Okay, that's what I see.

1120
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 2: I went with a worried too. I went, I went

1121
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 2: m J, Shaq and k D. I want no point like.

1122
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: We don't need point guard. You see how we play.

1123
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: We played big boy.

1124
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 4: It is it is.

1125
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 2: But I'm not mad at the at the stuff because you,

1126
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 2: I mean you verify you wanted to point guard.

1127
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: If you had to start bench or cut somebody, I

1128
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: mean cut one of these people, who would it be?

1129
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: Uh?

1130
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 5: Tim Duncan the same three KG, Dirk and Dirk.

1131
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 3: You gotta start one bench one and cut the other.

1132
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's gonna be different than baby. I know,

1133
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: start one. I'm starting KG. If I had to.

1134
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: Cut one.

1135
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 2: To cut one, mmm, I'm cutting dirt. If the bench

1136
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 2: on them benching t d Tim Dunkane irying, I was

1137
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: trying to that's tough. The reason why I start the

1138
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 2: reason why I start on KG, because he's also a

1139
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 2: defensive player on the wing. Yeah, team is a good

1140
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 2: defensive player around the basket. You don't even jumping around

1141
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 2: him though you can go around him.

1142
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 3: KG. He always yeah, and he got offensive threat. Dirt.

1143
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: There's no defense. Dirt don't play. Dirt didn't play any

1144
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: defense at all at all. So they will hot that

1145
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 2: will hide him defensively, the guard him. They always hide

1146
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: Dirk and you will never hear about Dirt can't play defense,

1147
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But he was You always

1148
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 2: hide Dirk. So I would have to I would have

1149
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: to probably cut Dirt from that standpoint. Offensively, he was

1150
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 2: a problem. I mean, he's one of the all time greats.

1151
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 2: You can't you can't guard him trail three, post up,

1152
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 2: fade away all that. But Timmy d was also a

1153
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: good offensive player, and it's a good defensive player as well.

1154
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: So I would have to KG start bench tim Duncan

1155
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: and cut Dirt.

1156
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: Feel So it's safe to say that the Sun season

1157
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: that y'all had the first, the original Sun season. It's

1158
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 1: like the most fun you had a season your whole.

1159
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no question, far as far as basketball. Basketball

1160
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: didn't even off the court. You know what I'm saying

1161
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 2: for sure, I'm yeah, I understand we really had that.

1162
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: We went into us having a good time together, were

1163
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 2: just gonna started.

1164
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 3: I was twenty. I was like in my early twenties.

1165
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: Everybody was young. I was young man my rookie year.

1166
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: That was the first sign that I was a young boy.

1167
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 3: Crazy.

1168
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: So so talk about now, like right now, you definitely

1169
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 2: want our dudes in the league that, you know what

1170
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

1171
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 3: Should be in the NBA.

1172
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 2: Even from last year to this year, I feel like

1173
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 2: you went out and you got yourself in way better condition.

1174
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: You you you know what I'm saying. Your body ain't

1175
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 2: never been a problem as far as like you know

1176
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Wait, but you you know what I'm saying.

1177
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: You always look But I just feel like the way

1178
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 2: you moving, your agility, what you was talking about the

1179
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 2: stuff you're doing with your knees and everything. You look

1180
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: way more fresh, more springy banging on people.

1181
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1182
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 2: So how has that, How has the Big three been

1183
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 2: for you as far as like playing and what do

1184
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: you look forward to as far as your opportunity with

1185
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: the NBA And you know, we know you don't need.

1186
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: But it's something that you know, that that you belong,

1187
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: so you should be able to take that step and

1188
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: go out there. As far as the NBIG concerned, I

1189
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 2: think it's more so about a lot of the NBA

1190
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 2: teams are going young, right, and so they are. It's

1191
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: just so many new gms, so many analytics and all

1192
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: these things taking place now to where like the game

1193
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 2: is somewhat changing and that fashion.

1194
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 5: They don't want to have a veteran in their locker room.

1195
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: This is my this is my take on it, and

1196
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: I get it right, I get it. They they want

1197
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 2: young guys, they want this and that and this. You know,

1198
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 2: they softer on the cap, they cheaper. My thing is

1199
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: they need to lower the VET minimum because the NBA's

1200
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 2: vets are now twenty four, twenty five, twenty six years old.

1201
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 2: You got the kids telling the kids what's going on.

1202
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: They don't like they don't got a Curt Time. They

1203
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 2: don't got a Rashi Wallace, they don't got Sean Rooks,

1204
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:32,479
Speaker 2: they don't got a Dead Strang.

1205
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 3: They don't got like a real they don't got a

1206
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 3: U d U D the last one left.

1207
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 2: They don't got these dudes who are really gate keepers

1208
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 2: who can really vince you know what I'm saying, who

1209
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 2: can really like you know, trend be part of that

1210
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 2: village that we had, did you try and show you?

1211
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 3: Like I'm telling you, these teams need that.

1212
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 2: Everything going too young and they looking why crazy stuff

1213
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 2: because you got the young boys leading the young boy

1214
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 2: There's no disrespect to them because they don't know no better.

1215
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 2: They learning on their first trying. They you know what

1216
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying, figuring stuff out as they go, try and

1217
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 2: do the best they can with a boatload of money,

1218
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 2: and they you know what I'm saying, right, and it's

1219
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: a lot, It's a lot.

1220
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 3: It's a lot.

1221
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: They need to learn, not only from basketball, but how

1222
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: to train, how to be on time for things, how

1223
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 2: to eat, to eat properly, how to take care of

1224
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 2: yourself off the court, all those little attributes they got

1225
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: to learn. It's tough for it. Like you were saying,

1226
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 2: like twenty five is your vet. You know what I'm saying,

1227
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: that's not your vet. He's really just like he's only

1228
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: been in the league maybe five years, six years, and

1229
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: now the vet I think a ten year guys, your

1230
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: vet ten year plus is your vets?

1231
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 3: Right, These guys ain't been in the leaden at.

1232
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 5: Least at least that's what you're playing to two three contracts.

1233
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: That's why I said, you learn off and salute a

1234
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 2: boy like d Wade what he doing right now with

1235
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: the invite. You see, he had like twenty kids, young boys,

1236
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: all of these boys, bringing them in to the facility.

1237
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 2: Now he's showing them top to bottom how to work,

1238
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: how to train, how to prepare, how to how to

1239
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: how to rehab, how to after you take care of

1240
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: your body. They got the Marma Taest, they got people

1241
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: their massage and cup and they got all this he's

1242
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 2: showing them. He's he's giving them the tools so that

1243
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: they could go forward and do what he did and

1244
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 2: the stuff he learned, that's what players need. He doing

1245
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 2: it on his own accord. And you know in the

1246
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 2: NBA that's what I'm saying. On NBA teams, it's like

1247
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: on a daily basis, this ain't just a week doing something.

1248
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: This was a week they don't ask And it's awesome

1249
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: that way. Good that he's not even playing no more.

1250
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 5: That's definitely who he is.

1251
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 3: That he is and still paying it for it and

1252
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 3: sharing his gifts.

1253
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: But he ain't like that, like you just said that

1254
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: should it should be somebody like that on almost every

1255
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: team they didn't face that, and the league is being

1256
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: hurt by that.

1257
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 3: That's not you know what I'm.

1258
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: Saying, Because when you got people like a d way

1259
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 2: to like matter, people that's trying to pour into them

1260
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 2: and pay it for like the ones that did for us,

1261
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 2: that ain't gonna do nothing to help build you know

1262
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, your brand, You don't have a less

1263
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: idiotics things happening on social media.

1264
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 3: And in the news.

1265
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 5: Who the best coach you ever played for? The best

1266
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 5: coach ever played for?

1267
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 2: Oh man, I mean offensively, Mike d'antonia, no question defense.

1268
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 2: Wouldn't really discuss defense hall at all. In practices. They

1269
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 2: scored me, took the ball, I quickly scoring them. Yeah,

1270
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: we all scored. I did like the way Phil Jackson

1271
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 2: was orchestrating the offense. I was actually enjoying the triangle

1272
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,959
Speaker 2: offense because it allows you to be able to score

1273
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 2: from anyone in basketball. If you're all around player, you

1274
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 2: can score from anyone in the basketball court. And it's

1275
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: all predicated pump ball movement. Yeah, and so I was like, yeah, yeah,

1276
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 2: it's fundamental basketball. So I was actually joined the regime

1277
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 2: under Phil Jackson, but Phil wasn't a coach. I mean,

1278
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: Dearrifficier was a coach at the time. But I think

1279
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: my favorite coach that I played for, it's probably Mike D'Antoni.

1280
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: If you had to pick one, what would be your

1281
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 2: favorite Steve Nash story? Because I got I got a

1282
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 2: great one.

1283
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 3: But I got it.

1284
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 2: I can't share it to actually we actually have him

1285
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: sitting on here. I can't share it till then. Oh man,

1286
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 2: my favorite Steve Nash story. So we coming for you, Steve.

1287
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: I know we didn't talk, but you know, you know

1288
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: we're gonna do this. Uh, my favorite Nash story, it's

1289
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 2: probably when who was getting up for the dunk contest.

1290
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 2: I remember this, and I was in the gym going

1291
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 2: through all my dunks, right three sixty windmill between their legs.

1292
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: I was going through all my dunks. Now went to Steve.

1293
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 2: I say, Steve, man, maybe you can do one of

1294
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 2: your soccer tricks. Kick it off the back border, kick

1295
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 2: it off your head or something like that, and see

1296
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 2: if I can catch it in windmill or three sixties

1297
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: something like that.

1298
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 3: And so nationally. Al Right, well, let me work on something.

1299
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 3: So he full court of.

1300
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 2: The foot, both feet need it, boil all that chest, back, everything, and.

1301
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 3: He threw it up.

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01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: We threw it up one time for me to practice,

1303
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 2: and I caught it in. So I bet that's what

1304
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 2: we're gonna do. So we get we get we get

1305
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 2: to the All Star Game. We get to that, we

1306
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 2: get to the All Star Game, and we got the

1307
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 2: little warments before for the dunk contest, and so we

1308
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to show anybody what we got playing,

1309
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 2: so I'm just going through the motion. And it happened

1310
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 2: kind of spontaneously on the court once we got in

1311
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: the dunk contest, and when Nas kicked it off the backboard,

1312
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: I caught a windmill. That was like one of my

1313
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: favorite moments for Steve and I you know what I'm saying.

1314
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 2: I wanted to pick him up and do it, dance

1315
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 2: with her. I was so caught up in the moment

1316
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 2: of just the dunk contest and it was like it

1317
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 2: was just one of those great moments for me and

1318
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: nash Man. One of my favorite stories. I remember we

1319
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 2: all was practicing that dog. I'm sitting here. We used

1320
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 2: to all be amazed at Stevie Hull's soccer game, like STEVEE.

1321
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: People don't know, remember Steve, just go get on the

1322
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 2: ice when the ice to be down for hits, gonna

1323
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 2: be pissed. Steve out there going full court.

1324
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 3: He was crazy. That Steve was cold and.

1325
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 2: Soccer and hockey like go up the whole court heating

1326
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 2: off his knee. You know if he dropped to his

1327
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 2: foot kicking the kick, kid, boot.

1328
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 3: That thing up to him. I'm sitting all us just

1329
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 3: sit in there watching like this dude is really just

1330
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 3: easy back kicking kick he's going.

1331
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 2: I say, man, dude, crazy, talented, crazy, that's that Canadian,

1332
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 2: South African side of him.

1333
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 3: You get on that boat.

1334
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 2: How he used to get on that ball with all

1335
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 2: them bands on him on the ball like a spider

1336
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 2: monkey boy, the post shoe ball. But man, bro Steve,

1337
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 2: you coming to gym, Steve, you got a little sweat

1338
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 2: bands on him. He ain't doing but moves because he

1339
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: had that back and yeah he got to keep that

1340
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 2: back straight. Boy, that boy used to go crazy on

1341
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 2: that stuff. And he used to be cut up. He

1342
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 2: was like he's called him moving rings. It was always

1343
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 2: ripped man. So he was chopped, chopped, always in shape,

1344
01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 2: always running spring.

1345
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 5: This was chopped.

1346
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had to that back man had to keep

1347
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 3: his court out there.

1348
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: Throwing them down and kept on putting his hairt behind

1349
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: the full court dropped the balling.

1350
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 3: Get your freaking line from so man. Yeah, man, we

1351
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 3: definitely want to you know what I'm saying.

1352
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 2: Show love to my big dolls, thistle sure appreciate it

1353
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 2: coming out showing love to the heads manure man.

1354
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 3: You know we got this.

1355
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 2: We got this special Hennessy B s O P. Very

1356
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 2: special privilege with the special edition knuckles.

1357
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 3: No more. Yeah what I'm saying, man, no more. I'm

1358
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 3: in there.

1359
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 2: This was all fire right here. We got my dogs,

1360
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: thistle Stack. You know what I'm saying, the building with

1361
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 2: the boys, all the Knucklehead fans. Much love, much love.

1362
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,880
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1363
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,600
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