Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome back everybody into another episode to look back
Speaker 2: at this podcast where we pick a year, pack it
Speaker 2: and have a good time.
Speaker 3: I'm your host, Sam Jay, and we had a we
Speaker 3: had a time last night, and I don't like how
Speaker 3: you're behaving.
Speaker 1: I will say, you are we doing this? Yeah, because
Speaker 1: it's you know, like way before I care. I noticed
Speaker 1: a lot of us talking about being late and being
Speaker 1: on time, but I met with this energy as if
Speaker 1: I didn't pull up.
Speaker 2: The only reason that your time is because you have
Speaker 2: early to go get some cop if you that's the
Speaker 2: only reason we were all hanging out.
Speaker 1: My business. We were all we were all hanging out,
Speaker 1: and you're delivering my business inaccurately because.
Speaker 3: It's because you were.
Speaker 2: You were being a little shady like and that's that's hers.
Speaker 3: You're being a little shady and I'm sick of it.
Speaker 1: Okay, just you know you're dealing them with your hair
Speaker 1: and the dog. Wow, starting this afternoon, good morning, let's
Speaker 1: just say that good morning, good morning at two o'clock
Speaker 1: in the afternoon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's fine, it's morning somewhere.
Speaker 1: Well, you the one came in here requesting modella like
Speaker 1: an old uncle.
Speaker 2: Listen, I had to get my life back on track.
Speaker 2: I had to get my life back on track. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get my papers, got custody, your kids, get.
Speaker 3: My papers together, and try to get my life back
Speaker 3: in order.
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it? Do you feel you're in the
Speaker 1: process of getting.
Speaker 2: It back in order right now? We're gonna have to
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to give it some money.
Speaker 1: I mean, is gonna have the driving force of the
Speaker 1: momentum of this show.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Today's guests, Yes, uh, this is This has been like.
Speaker 3: The week of the Homies.
Speaker 2: I feel like, Yeah, today's guest is a friend of mine.
Speaker 2: He's also my jeweler. But he's more than a jeweler,
Speaker 2: I would saying. An artist for sure, has created some
Speaker 2: of the dopest pieces we've seen.
Speaker 3: In the game.
Speaker 2: Just an overall creative philanthropists of sorts, business owner and
Speaker 2: just all around cool fucking hand. Give it up for Greg.
Speaker 1: You know, thank you, thank you? Question looking Cam? Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm glad I got dressed you. Yeah you look good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Yeah, we're very excited to discuss the
Speaker 1: year that you've chosen to speak to us about, which
Speaker 1: was two thousand and two.
Speaker 2: Also, I would just like to point out before we
Speaker 2: get into two thousand and two, Greg's also just like
Speaker 2: a mystery man, like he just be places like his
Speaker 2: his Instagram is very like he'll just be like on
Speaker 2: a helicopter and then he'll just be like landing in
Speaker 2: a field and there'll be like four porsches around him
Speaker 2: and he'll be like Tuesday, and it's like you don't
Speaker 2: know why he's there, how he got there, or what
Speaker 2: his connection is to any of it, but he just
Speaker 2: he just he just be placed.
Speaker 1: Explain yourself. I have a lot of close friends, some papers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that always helps. That's that as your description?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I just I just wanted to
Speaker 2: give a little more context. Sure, you know, before we
Speaker 2: get into this year. The year you picked two thousand
Speaker 2: and two.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and one, two thousand and two, like that,
Speaker 1: in that in that space. But it works, it.
Speaker 3: Works well, Greg, all our paperworkers for two thousand works.
Speaker 1: That works. So that's all you can.
Speaker 3: You can go wherever you want to go, look back
Speaker 3: at it.
Speaker 2: We're not we're not straight not hold well, I guess
Speaker 2: we will start how we always start, which is like
Speaker 2: give us some insight into like who you are in
Speaker 2: two thousand and two, How old are you, what are
Speaker 2: you doing, where are you living?
Speaker 3: Like what is life like for Greg Youna in two
Speaker 3: thousand and.
Speaker 1: Two, two thousand and two, I was twenty.
Speaker 3: Two, Oh baby, still right, twenty.
Speaker 4: Two years old. I just got a couple of bucks.
Speaker 4: Have my mom sign a lease on a BMW for me.
Speaker 4: I'm very excited fifty cent came out with his.
Speaker 3: Album This is all sounding very Queens, that's.
Speaker 4: Queen's very and me and me, me being from Queens.
Speaker 4: You know, we haven't had that kind of excitement in
Speaker 4: a long term.
Speaker 1: What did what did fifty cent in the establishment of
Speaker 1: G unit to do for you twenty two years old
Speaker 1: in Queens at that time?
Speaker 4: It was just that he brought to back that energy,
Speaker 4: you know, it was it was a lot of drama
Speaker 4: in the game.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like a song Barbera.
Speaker 3: You know we're talking Get Richard, We're talking.
Speaker 4: Get Richard's that time we're talking about when when eminem
Speaker 4: signed mm hmm, all the drama, all the drama was
Speaker 4: going on and made music good again. We haven't heard
Speaker 4: anything like that, you know since Big and died and
Speaker 4: it was just like that. That was the last time
Speaker 4: we had that excitement I feel in hip hop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know there to be a song like
Speaker 1: in the Club that still gets me going the way
Speaker 1: in the club, Like I don't care where I am
Speaker 1: if I hear that song, I'm like, I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but my shoulders are doing I.
Speaker 2: Heard my hair right now, just like Auntie.
Speaker 1: I think In the Club was made to bring out
Speaker 1: the Auntie and most people he was doing when he
Speaker 1: was Anti.
Speaker 3: Yes, they don't got to do much.
Speaker 1: I like, I like more of the hardship. But yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, we just.
Speaker 3: We do need to clarify.
Speaker 1: The get.
Speaker 3: Came out February sixth, two thousand and three.
Speaker 2: Oh so so two thousand and three three, maybe.
Speaker 3: You had the advanced copy? Yeah, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 4: That's also you know, it's it's a blurry. It was
Speaker 4: a blurry time for me. You know, I'm still a kid.
Speaker 3: We we we we're.
Speaker 1: Going through it. Also as a country, we were going
Speaker 1: through it.
Speaker 2: So I give it to you. I just want to
Speaker 2: be accurate for the for the bar, it was a blur.
Speaker 2: I don't want to get cussed out in the comments.
Speaker 1: Later cursed out. Regardless, we have yet to get cussed out.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're trying.
Speaker 3: To two.
Speaker 1: Thousand and one to two thousand and three, let's call it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It was a It was an incredible time for for me,
Speaker 4: I believe, you know, just being young and.
Speaker 1: Queens twenty two, twenty three.
Speaker 4: I just remember just being in the car, listening to
Speaker 4: the stuff, meeting up with my friends, just pulling up
Speaker 4: to the mall, you know.
Speaker 1: Driving to the city. Free, how do you have money? Drink?
Speaker 4: You could drink At that time, I was, I was.
Speaker 4: I was working for my cousin who a mortgage company.
Speaker 1: I was, I was mortgage processor.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, so I was in there like this family business,
Speaker 4: family business.
Speaker 3: Keeping it, keeping it, keeping it, keeping it, keeping it.
Speaker 4: Dowish, boring job, boring job. But I had a good
Speaker 4: time then, you know. It was it was the first
Speaker 4: time as a as a as a young adult that
Speaker 4: I was getting a couple of dollars that you know
Speaker 4: that what substantial.
Speaker 3: Are you in a serious relationship but you're just you're
Speaker 3: just fucking off, You're just having fun. Are you with somebody?
Speaker 3: Are you are you with somebody in your.
Speaker 1: Cheating, Why why do you do this? What's your problem?
Speaker 4: We're getting back then, okay, okay, back then I.
Speaker 1: Was I was like, what are you doing this?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: What's your problem? I'm trying to keep things private. Back
Speaker 1: then that was the whole house. Yeah, yeah, trifling one. Whoah,
Speaker 1: you know I was. I was living that life. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was young and dumb and I didn't have I
Speaker 4: didn't want I didn't have any accountability. You know, I
Speaker 4: didn't know what I was doing. I didn't understand what
Speaker 4: I was doing to people. I was just living my life.
Speaker 1: Being selfish at the time, you know, okay, and not
Speaker 1: proud of it. But I had a good time.
Speaker 3: What kind of chicks are as a Spanish swimming black woman.
Speaker 1: I didn't discriminate all over.
Speaker 2: Just sexy okay, yeah, just sexy ladies, sexy ladies.
Speaker 1: But you know, it was just a young time to
Speaker 1: be dumb and irresponsible. Yeah. What was the vibe black
Speaker 1: in New York City? You know, we're twenty two at
Speaker 1: this time. Fuck, how would you describe the feeling?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: What kind of were you? Were you club? Were you
Speaker 1: a club? I was both bar and club? Yeah at
Speaker 1: that age.
Speaker 4: You know, anyway, where they let us in anyway, we
Speaker 4: had a little bit of a plug, yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: and then we took advantage of that put right. So
Speaker 4: was there any like was there any like outside of
Speaker 4: like the fifty center of it all? Who or who
Speaker 4: else were you listening to? I mean always Jay, you
Speaker 4: know the guys X DMX know he's not don't talk
Speaker 4: about him enough X we don't. We don't talk about
Speaker 4: DMX enough.
Speaker 1: But that's ninety eight nine and nine.
Speaker 3: What in what context?
Speaker 1: I just feel like he's left out a lot and
Speaker 1: a lot of conversations and it comes like hip hop
Speaker 1: was like.
Speaker 3: What don't get brought up? And like greats get brought
Speaker 3: up here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, bring up. I feel like I don't hear him on.
Speaker 4: He brought that energy right after Big died and all that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we were still as kids. We were still mourning him.
Speaker 1: Uh and we love Park too. We loved Big Park.
Speaker 4: But it was just it was but us being from
Speaker 4: New York, it was just like all right, you know,
Speaker 4: and it was at that time it was an East
Speaker 4: and West coast.
Speaker 1: It was a it was a thing. So you had
Speaker 1: to pick a sage. I was kind of of the mind.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess I kind of always thought
Speaker 1: that only people from Brooklyn had that like sort of
Speaker 1: attachment to Biggie in that way. You know, I didn't really,
Speaker 1: I guess it didn't really. I didn't realize it until
Speaker 1: later on that people from Queens and people from Harlem
Speaker 1: all shared an equal amount of pride in Biggie.
Speaker 4: Back then, as kids are from Queens of Brooklyn, there
Speaker 4: was always that borough exactly right. As right as you
Speaker 4: you become a fan of New York, of New York,
Speaker 4: I'm a fan of New York, right right, right, And
Speaker 4: I didn't realize it was yeah, yeah, that's you know,
Speaker 4: let's tribalize.
Speaker 1: I like that, right, But also like I live in
Speaker 1: Brooklyn now. I love Brooklyn. Yeah, it's a New York.
Speaker 3: No one loves Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: I love Brooklyn. I enjoy it certain parts. You know.
Speaker 4: I can't believe how bad it that New York is.
Speaker 4: To like leave New York and try to live somewhere else,
Speaker 4: it's tough. Yeah, it's like not happening for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you've never lived anywhere else.
Speaker 1: This is the central nervous system of the world. Who
Speaker 1: do you want to go anywhere else? Really? Like, if
Speaker 1: you're from here. I need to be simulated at all times. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: That sounds like a problem.
Speaker 1: Went to Chattan, New York Like, you'd be like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck? Where's the where? Where is everybody? Where's everything?
Speaker 1: Unless I'm locked in? I have the attention span of
Speaker 1: a goldfish like fast. So how was the pandemic for you?
Speaker 1: I actually had one of the best times in the
Speaker 1: pandemic best.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I'm twenty two years but it was just
Speaker 5: I mean, that was probably the best time in my
Speaker 5: life when pandemic pandemic.
Speaker 1: I was able to be a kid again. No bills, no.
Speaker 1: I called everyone.
Speaker 4: That I had to pay monthly, like I called car company,
Speaker 4: cell phone company, my building. I was like, listen, we're
Speaker 4: about to love humanity is about to be over. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so until we get back, I can't pay anything. Everyone's
Speaker 4: like okay, So they rolled those payments into the back
Speaker 4: when it was done, which is fine. But during the pandemic,
Speaker 4: I didn't spend a dollar on anything except airbnbs.
Speaker 3: That's kind of that's such a white thing to do.
Speaker 2: I never I could call why we pay I was
Speaker 2: paying bills.
Speaker 1: I had no idea knowing you were about to die.
Speaker 3: I couldn't made.
Speaker 1: My mom was like just call well.
Speaker 3: I was like, get jesus man, I think my whole
Speaker 3: family was baying bills.
Speaker 1: I was still paid, but just you were like, I
Speaker 1: didn't know you.
Speaker 3: Could back end it. I just I just never when.
Speaker 1: You frame it like that. He was like, Hey, we
Speaker 1: might all be dying, so why would I give you money.
Speaker 4: Mom, She's like, call your car company, tell them this
Speaker 4: is what's going on, and if they could, you know,
Speaker 4: you know, just.
Speaker 3: Yeah, make sure we all live before we start taking
Speaker 3: money again. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I have a question for you, So what do you
Speaker 1: do based on like how lit you are at twenty
Speaker 1: two in New York City two or three? What do
Speaker 1: you think the twenty two year olds of New York
Speaker 1: City today? Do you think they have a better or
Speaker 1: worse experience the way you've had?
Speaker 3: Way to put the pod on track out.
Speaker 1: Every episode, I try to ask a cool question, and
Speaker 1: I'm always giving this as if like a five year
Speaker 1: old asking a question.
Speaker 2: I'm always like, I was like, I don't know how
Speaker 2: we're going to get this one together, and I'm impressed.
Speaker 1: Do you see do you see that a difference in
Speaker 1: like night life culture? And like, you know, the music changing.
Speaker 1: What how do you describe I don't think the kids
Speaker 1: are drinking this. They're not n you know, they're not
Speaker 1: drinking like that. Also like where are they and where
Speaker 1: where they're from? Where are they? A lot of my transplants,
Speaker 1: a lot of them are not going out. But you know,
Speaker 1: I don't also fully accept that they're not going out
Speaker 1: because you you go to certain places, you know, in
Speaker 1: Lower east Side, Manhattan area or whatever, and there's lines
Speaker 1: there's like line.
Speaker 2: Go out to be dirty and smell bad. It's like
Speaker 2: they don't. They don't go out get fresh and like bottle.
Speaker 2: Like whenever you're in like Lower east Side, it's smelly
Speaker 2: over there. Everybody where you go, everybody, it's so smelly.
Speaker 3: They dirty. Those parties in Brooklyn all stink. I don't know,
Speaker 3: not one of them Brooklyn parties that don't fuck the
Speaker 3: smell bad.
Speaker 2: Every time one of our friends, I'm not gonna ruin
Speaker 2: his fan base is out there DJing and he's like
Speaker 2: telling him, like it's going to smell awful in there.
Speaker 1: I always have fun.
Speaker 2: Those those poppy parties, they smell the poppy.
Speaker 1: Like ass listen, listen, hey, hey, well we were not
Speaker 1: we're not smelling for We're not gonna do it. Slander
Speaker 1: the good name of poppies, used parties. Okay, I've had
Speaker 1: a good time.
Speaker 3: Do they not? Do they not stink?
Speaker 1: There?
Speaker 2: These kids smell bad. They don't want to really buy drinks.
Speaker 2: They're not really out to do it.
Speaker 1: Has a good thing. You don't want.
Speaker 3: No, it's not.
Speaker 2: Because they're all on ketamine and ship. They're yeah, yeah, they're.
Speaker 3: On like the bad drugs and not on cocaine. They're
Speaker 3: not on like upper and fun Ship.
Speaker 1: They're on just like the.
Speaker 3: Catchment drugs.
Speaker 1: I don't know we were while growing up, you know,
Speaker 1: we were having a good time.
Speaker 3: They're fucking less.
Speaker 1: Were fucking less.
Speaker 3: That's reported. These kids are not.
Speaker 1: Fucking so, So what is your ps these kids start doing?
Speaker 1: Are you twenty year old fans that.
Speaker 2: I watched start fucking start doing cocaine? You're ruining society.
Speaker 1: Young twenties, young twenties. Auntie Sam, Auntie Sam only speaks
Speaker 1: for Auntie SAMs.
Speaker 3: Okay, cocaine over ketamine.
Speaker 2: Psychos, get into light, get into light, little mothers.
Speaker 1: Mom is gonna terrible.
Speaker 2: You know, Vegas is dying because these kids don't.
Speaker 3: They don't know.
Speaker 1: But it was like no Vegas, y'all. I just have
Speaker 1: all my people there. I got my bros there. I
Speaker 1: just always, actually not always.
Speaker 4: As soon as I met my shout out to Jaseean,
Speaker 4: as soon as I met my friend Jayshawn, he changed
Speaker 4: Vegas for me.
Speaker 1: What did he do? He just it? I used to go.
Speaker 1: So I used to be out there for Floyd. Floyd
Speaker 1: used to fly us out there for jewelry. And I
Speaker 1: didn't gamble. I didn't know anyone at the club scene,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know anyone at the pool parties.
Speaker 4: So I would literally get there and the people are
Speaker 4: with gambled. So while the gambled, I was just losing
Speaker 4: my ship. So I'm like, you know what, let me
Speaker 4: try to get into this pool party because Foid'll have
Speaker 4: you there for two days and not called with you
Speaker 4: on the third day, like, hey, I'm ready to see
Speaker 4: the jewelry. So we're stuck and I'm waiting on the
Speaker 4: line to get into a pool party for like forty
Speaker 4: five minutes to an hour and then get in and Vegas.
Speaker 1: He yeah, and the Las Vegas heat, and I'm like.
Speaker 4: This ship is trashed because I don't know anybody here.
Speaker 4: Did that for like a year, literally like on and off,
Speaker 4: and then one day I went into this kid that
Speaker 4: was like, hey, let me plug you with my friend.
Speaker 1: You know, he runs the town.
Speaker 4: And it ended up being my friend Jayshan you met
Speaker 4: him before, and he literally.
Speaker 1: Runs Las Vegas. I'm talking about the mayor.
Speaker 4: We walk anyway, we walk before we get there, even
Speaker 4: fifty feet of the spot, ropes open up, and I
Speaker 4: got to see it in a different light. And then
Speaker 4: during the pandemic, I stayed there as well, so I
Speaker 4: got to see I got to actually go into the town,
Speaker 4: which is traveling with the Maine right right right right sowhere.
Speaker 1: I got to see parts of Vegas that I would
Speaker 1: never do.
Speaker 4: I would have never seen red Rock, and you know,
Speaker 4: I met some beautiful people there.
Speaker 1: So with that this this is a question now I
Speaker 1: asked a lot of people about Vegas because I've experienced
Speaker 1: being there too long. How many days? What's the cat
Speaker 1: for me? Three? I spent four days there and I
Speaker 1: was like into a reptile.
Speaker 4: Will it depends if I'm partying like for like three days,
Speaker 4: three days like three but.
Speaker 1: Like chilling and kicking it, and I can stay. You
Speaker 1: can say I stayed there, like I stayed there for them.
Speaker 3: Chilling ves.
Speaker 1: But you know what I have, I fell in love
Speaker 1: with it. I felt lived in Vegas.
Speaker 2: And they always say, like the Vegas you're experiencing is
Speaker 2: not Vegas, Like people who live in Vegas like, we
Speaker 2: don't go to the Strip, We don't do that stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're like, who would want to do that? So like
Speaker 2: they're like, if you really want to know Vegas, you
Speaker 2: have to like experience with living in Vegas is like
Speaker 2: which is.
Speaker 1: What I heard.
Speaker 2: It's very nice like hyaches and like rock structures and
Speaker 2: like cool like desert excursions and like all types of
Speaker 2: other ship that like the average person just visiting doesn't do.
Speaker 2: And I do think we have to keep into account
Speaker 2: like the Strip were tourists in the Stretch is where people.
Speaker 1: Like you talking about.
Speaker 2: It's like where people come to be a piece.
Speaker 1: Of ship, to be a piece of.
Speaker 4: Ship depending on where you stay, No, the whole listen
Speaker 4: there the encore wind.
Speaker 3: I say that the wind is the wind nice the best.
Speaker 3: Absolutely are the people there to be pieces of ship?
Speaker 2: Yes, there, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's a high class piece of ship.
Speaker 1: But ship after that worth day, I was just like,
Speaker 1: I am becoming these people, and I don't like.
Speaker 3: Just as soon as they get up the planet like
Speaker 3: time to be horrible.
Speaker 1: It's just my heat. The heat is just crying, you know,
Speaker 1: terrible human. There's something about it. When I go there. Now,
Speaker 1: I feel like, outside of that's nice. It's always nice
Speaker 1: to have a place like that. Outside of I got genuinely,
Speaker 1: I know, I.
Speaker 3: Know you're comfortable in the Devil's fire.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know in the in the in the
Speaker 1: the United States, that's crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I did a gig my first, like I guess, kid.
Speaker 2: That paid me like five thousand dollars was Hollywood Improv,
Speaker 2: the Vegas Improv and whatever fucking casino that was booked me.
Speaker 2: But you had to do a week. You have to
Speaker 2: do seven days when you get booked out there. So
Speaker 2: I'm out there for a week. Truly, hell, truly, all
Speaker 2: of it, all of it, because one in Vegas treats
Speaker 2: entertainers like cooks because it's an entertainment town. They don't
Speaker 2: give us literally, I was like, where do I get food?
Speaker 2: And they brought me to like the employee cafeteria and
Speaker 2: I was like sitting there with like house cleaners and
Speaker 2: ship and there was like the thing on the wall
Speaker 2: that's like it's been sixty days since there's been an
Speaker 2: accident on Like I wanted to jump out of fucking window.
Speaker 2: I don't remember what it was like, maybe horrors, one
Speaker 2: of those terrible places.
Speaker 3: Shout out. I'm like, all the.
Speaker 2: Shows are just people who lost all their money and
Speaker 2: have nowhere to go all that hot and they just
Speaker 2: want to like sit down and a ship about comedy.
Speaker 2: The opener it was me I was headlining to do
Speaker 2: that open for me was a like co star on
Speaker 2: Gomer Pile. The motherfucker was like seventy five.
Speaker 3: I'm not kidding. His name was Ronny Schnell and he
Speaker 3: would go out. He would go every night and he
Speaker 3: would be like and he'd bring me up by going,
Speaker 3: we love our gaze. I'm from San Francisco and we
Speaker 3: love our gaze in San Francisco. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: He like he was known for being act and.
Speaker 3: This I got bumped off my own show by Marshall
Speaker 3: Warfield one.
Speaker 1: Night to do it. Shout out to Marshall Warfield show.
Speaker 2: This lady had her feet on the stage the entire
Speaker 2: time and I was like, ma'am, like, what.
Speaker 3: Are you doing?
Speaker 2: Can you get your fee other stage? And she was like,
Speaker 2: you don't got to be loud. It's like, bitch, I
Speaker 2: have a microphone.
Speaker 3: I was ready to commit.
Speaker 1: Susan and that is that is Las Vegas, the place
Speaker 1: love that shelp me. Everyone has direct I had both.
Speaker 1: That's your adopted family over there. I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: M hm, Well, I found something very fascinating. King of
Speaker 1: Transitions happened in two thousand and two, and I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm curious if you remember this happening her our research.
Speaker 1: One of the most intense, chaotic stories came out of
Speaker 1: New York City in June sixteenth of two thousand and two. Uh,
Speaker 1: there was a hostage situation. At helped me out with
Speaker 1: this because I always I never know how to say it.
Speaker 1: Bar BOLOCHI, I don't know. I like Barbochich, that's it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know l o Celo Blosi.
Speaker 1: There's a number of them here in New York. It's
Speaker 1: not just Russian, right, Yeah, it's like a wine bar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, I think this guy went to a wine bar.
Speaker 1: He went to and he was of two pistols, a
Speaker 1: samuraized somebody's got to get knocked off, and a kerosene
Speaker 1: and kerosene, and he took customers target hostage, targeting white
Speaker 1: patrons and shooting three people before being tackled by two women.
Speaker 1: Two women got when you recall this.
Speaker 2: Story, two white ladies who had enough. He said that
Speaker 2: he was going to kill happy.
Speaker 1: His name was Stephen Johnson, thirty nine years.
Speaker 2: Ago, to avenge the mistreatment of black people. So he
Speaker 2: went to this wine bard got to it, and some
Speaker 2: white ladies said, yeah, and you know, not today.
Speaker 1: I here's my thing though, and I agree. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: why blame him? Yeah he was, He's ahead of the
Speaker 1: he's ahead of the curve, you know.
Speaker 3: But I don't. I don't think that white fans.
Speaker 1: But but but this is a comedy show where we
Speaker 1: really this is what I'm saying. This is not a levee, right,
Speaker 1: we're like a few muchs shy. If not, we haven't
Speaker 1: gotten full year there, right, right right. I don't think
Speaker 1: people was really thinking about black people like that in
Speaker 1: New York. I don't know. I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: that we was what was we? I don't remember Rital
Speaker 1: tension being that high after not level. The energy was
Speaker 1: off of us.
Speaker 3: A specific mistreatment to be inviting about.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that the energy really wasn't on us,
Speaker 1: you know, No, the orange and the grint and it
Speaker 1: wasn't us.
Speaker 3: It turned that we didn't.
Speaker 1: Really need avenging at that moment, in this particular time.
Speaker 1: It was kind of misguided.
Speaker 2: Do you think it was a little bit he was
Speaker 2: getting jealous, like he was like the attention back, that's
Speaker 2: a road to take, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 2: it was like we're all into these alcadas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but niggas is still here. Niggas is still.
Speaker 1: Nigga to come back and be racist to us.
Speaker 3: Come back and be racist to us.
Speaker 1: Greg, You know, I don't have a comment. I don't
Speaker 1: know what you guys are trying to do to me.
Speaker 1: This is literally like, yeah, we go off and the
Speaker 1: and the guest is like, okay, well I don't We're
Speaker 1: we're double.
Speaker 2: You know, Well no, it's just I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 2: What was the real What was it about?
Speaker 1: Like what something? I think he had mental mental problem.
Speaker 3: That we.
Speaker 1: Also didn't have that language yet, Greg, thing we were
Speaker 1: talking right that I know, so, you know, we.
Speaker 2: Definitely know you had a mental problem getting dressed like
Speaker 2: the Ghost of Tushima.
Speaker 3: Care.
Speaker 1: I mean he was it was convicted of over fifty crimes,
Speaker 1: including sounds and multiple hate crimes. I don't I remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta really be doing bad stuff to white
Speaker 2: people to get charged with a hate crime, and it's white.
Speaker 2: I want to, I want to like they were, they
Speaker 2: were over it. They really just wanted to drink their wine.
Speaker 2: Wine enough, get out of here with this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you what is like the craziest thing you've
Speaker 1: seen in New York Times? From it, you are to stancetized.
Speaker 1: But is there anything from like the younger years? Is
Speaker 1: that kind of like shaped your New York experience? That's
Speaker 1: like a as a native New Yorker? Is there something
Speaker 1: like monumental? Did you see anything? Was that something like
Speaker 1: a high school that happened? I mean, I didn't want
Speaker 1: to ship. I don't know even so much.
Speaker 4: I've seen people ship on the sidewalk, and that's not
Speaker 4: crazy to us.
Speaker 1: It's notized to us. It's not just a Tuesday.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is, if you're coming from Stockholm, right
Speaker 4: and you walking in New York City and you see
Speaker 4: someone in the street taking the ship.
Speaker 1: That's crazy to us, it's not, well.
Speaker 2: Don't steal my transition. I was gonna say, don't steal
Speaker 2: my transition. Okay, can I get one, let's go.
Speaker 3: You saw me, you saw me lie of paper and
Speaker 3: grabbed it.
Speaker 1: I was just I'm just sneaky. We see, we have
Speaker 1: our research. I want to know what's going on. We
Speaker 1: over here shuffling papers like we had news. But why
Speaker 1: you guys can't up on me? Were not at all,
Speaker 1: even though you don't recall that story. And I'm.
Speaker 4: What you got over there tinking crazy.
Speaker 3: He's was also the year that Michael Jackson this baby
Speaker 3: over a balcony with the napkin over his head.
Speaker 2: Two. I guess let the fans feel the aura of blanket,
Speaker 2: the essence of blanket. Spread a little blanket essence.
Speaker 3: Through the crowd.
Speaker 1: Listen to me. I love Michael Jackson so much. Gro
Speaker 1: you know what, hold on, hold on, hold on. I
Speaker 1: thought you were getting ready play. He was my brother
Speaker 1: at the age of three. That's how much I loved him.
Speaker 1: That you couldn't get meat.
Speaker 4: My mom couldn't get me to eat anything because I
Speaker 4: was so excited anytime he.
Speaker 1: Would come up on the TV that he was my brother?
Speaker 1: Are you? And I was like, he's my brother, right,
Speaker 1: and she was like, yeah, this is the beginning exclusive.
Speaker 4: This is white Michael, this is black Michael. If time
Speaker 4: real fast, I'm on the podcast Who Is My Brother?
Speaker 4: When I was three, Michael, you so careful speak about Michael. Okay, okay, okay, fair.
Speaker 4: I was obsessed with him as a kid. Yes, Like
Speaker 4: I would be so excited. I would watch Thriller and
Speaker 4: Billy all day.
Speaker 1: Every case. It was an event. It was just like
Speaker 1: the Thriller. Everything it was an event. Okay, So it's
Speaker 1: safe to stay that you thoroughly enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: I thoroughly thought he was my brother, Like I was
Speaker 4: like delusional to him. So so you enjoyed this movie
Speaker 4: that came out.
Speaker 1: I didn't even watch the movie. Really. I like to
Speaker 1: watch the comfort of my own home. I don't want to,
Speaker 1: you know, get there.
Speaker 2: I can respect everything you're saying. Okay, but now we're
Speaker 2: in two thousand and two. This is a different mic.
Speaker 1: Different mic. I always love Michael. I never I never,
Speaker 1: I never thought he was did you think about this
Speaker 1: baby day? I thought the ship was funny with Oprah.
Speaker 1: The baby didn't think.
Speaker 4: I just feel like he didn't know how to hitle
Speaker 4: the baby, and he was trying to show the world
Speaker 4: that was going on.
Speaker 1: He's not really you know, he used to dance you need,
Speaker 1: you need, Like they they've scrutinized the guy. You know.
Speaker 1: I actually feel like they've been working with him forever.
Speaker 1: Like what do you want from the guy? Anything he
Speaker 1: does he make him crazy? M hm.
Speaker 3: Dangling a baby alchemy.
Speaker 4: You know, the part that bother me, It was it
Speaker 4: was the baby's foot that that hit.
Speaker 1: The baby was loose the banister.
Speaker 3: He didn't even lift the bottom and do one of these.
Speaker 1: He wasn't good. It was whatever. But I don't think.
Speaker 3: Of the of the toes.
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, Michael Jackson, for me, is
Speaker 1: a sensitive subject. We totally get.
Speaker 2: We we did not realize we didn't because we didn't
Speaker 2: realize we weren't going through.
Speaker 3: The baby dangle.
Speaker 2: And then we started talking about the new movie, which
Speaker 2: I haven't seen.
Speaker 3: And I have no desire to see.
Speaker 1: There's no spoilers. You know what happened right, which is
Speaker 1: was never born. I just feel like I'm gonna watch it, But.
Speaker 2: I feel like the movie should start at the end
Speaker 2: of his life, like we should see Mike on the gas,
Speaker 2: Mike on the gas talking in the deep boys, being like,
Speaker 2: I ain't sending Joe no more fucking money.
Speaker 3: That is That's how we get into the.
Speaker 2: Movie, like, oh ship, and then they backtrack on some
Speaker 2: memorable moments, show us some ship we haven't seen, maybe
Speaker 2: him beating a bitch up.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They wasn't giving give me some stuff. The most they did,
Speaker 1: the most they did, the most they did that was
Speaker 1: even close to like controversial about Michael was making sure
Speaker 1: that that that that knows changed.
Speaker 3: I can't watch any Michael Jackson, Bob that's not talking
Speaker 3: about these kids, that's not talking about the gas, that's
Speaker 3: not talking about you gotta.
Speaker 1: Talks, you gotta talk. It was almost.
Speaker 3: Women we saw Jackson the American dream.
Speaker 2: We already know this doesn't need to be dream again
Speaker 2: with his nephew.
Speaker 3: It's like, if you're gonna give it to me, give
Speaker 3: it to me.
Speaker 2: I would love to see Michael the gas being like,
Speaker 2: I didn't touch one of them little motherfuckers and he
Speaker 2: did well, Greg, you keep.
Speaker 3: That to yourself.
Speaker 1: Why. I mean, hey, none of us were the only
Speaker 1: people who were there were those kids.
Speaker 2: And God, that's why, that's why you get to keep
Speaker 2: your honorary black something about you that's.
Speaker 3: Such a black opinion.
Speaker 1: Fuck, No, that's great. We we honor that, we do.
Speaker 1: I will say, I don't think uh called me in
Speaker 1: Domingo had any intention on being as hilarious as he
Speaker 1: came across in this film. Honestly, if you ask me,
Speaker 1: the Michael Michael Jackson movie that just came out is
Speaker 1: a horror comedy, okay, because Joe Jackson at every scene
Speaker 1: enters like sinisterly eyebrows first kind of popping out when
Speaker 1: you sort of expecting gonna pop out, like as soon
Speaker 1: as like Michael's like alone for like two seconds too long,
Speaker 1: you know, here comes Joe.
Speaker 3: Is it funny?
Speaker 2: Like is it funny? Like Lauren Fishberg and what Love
Speaker 2: got doing it funny? Where it's like this ain't funny.
Speaker 1: It's not funny, But this is funny. Yes, it absolutely
Speaker 1: is that because I just you can just tell from
Speaker 1: the prosthetics that he had to get in it and
Speaker 1: get out of it. It looks different. Everything. The eyebrows
Speaker 1: are crazy. How do you what you what is your
Speaker 1: relationship with Jael Jackson? Turns my lady?
Speaker 3: Okay, well, Joe Jackson is Michael Jackson's dead. He has
Speaker 3: nothing to do with ta turn.
Speaker 4: I said, I don't know why we said turn because
Speaker 4: I love to do Sorry.
Speaker 1: Sorry Michael Jackson, Wait her husband, God damn it.
Speaker 3: First, don't we don't get the lady?
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson is your brother? What your relationship to Jael Jackson?
Speaker 4: I never really cared for Joe Jackson or anyone else
Speaker 4: but Michael, get your brother.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that growing up. Okay, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that the news, the news got out of.
Speaker 3: The center of your universe. Yeah, okay, got a child
Speaker 3: just didn't matter, right, I hear that.
Speaker 1: Well, you do not want to see that whooping scene
Speaker 1: that happens, because that's pretty realistic. But what the fuck?
Speaker 1: I just get that mixed up. The movie makes The
Speaker 1: movie makes Joe Jackson kind of a protagonist. Protagonist another way. Really,
Speaker 1: it kind of makes Joe look like what I mean, if.
Speaker 3: He wasn't being asked, you would have got what got
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean, he raised everyone's kind of feels that. And
Speaker 1: then and then he raised a bunch of superstars.
Speaker 2: He was trying to make a star back then when
Speaker 2: a black man couldn't even have ship.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I got foot. Yes, the movie does
Speaker 1: not make Michael look like he's got all his marbles.
Speaker 1: I will say that. I don't. I think you might
Speaker 1: want to avoid it, if you want to avoid any
Speaker 1: sort of skewing of my because there is a moment
Speaker 1: with him in Bubbles that's just like, okay.
Speaker 4: Well, how can you expect that as a kid. You know,
Speaker 4: the guy's been performing is a child? What childhood is?
Speaker 4: Did he even get a chance to be a kid.
Speaker 3: I'm so sick of this ship.
Speaker 2: Form since they were fucking children. They're not they're not
Speaker 2: doing all this. Give me, Jason Weaver, Keenan Thompson, what
Speaker 2: are you talking about? There's been black like young performers
Speaker 2: that grew up performing like I don't know why this reason.
Speaker 1: Well, the movie kind of frames it in a way.
Speaker 1: The way I interpreted the movie was that from his
Speaker 1: childhood scene, uh, it kind of seemed like he didn't
Speaker 1: really want it. Seemed like he didn't really want as
Speaker 1: much exactly, But we don't know what goes on behind
Speaker 1: closed doors.
Speaker 2: We know that he's doing it right because we ain't
Speaker 2: heard about it.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Leo.
Speaker 1: We love Leo, shot out les SIPs beer, we love.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think we can end on.
Speaker 1: That right there. It's Friday going home. We got the
Speaker 1: phone call from mom which was like that was that
Speaker 1: was perfect, Gret, Thank you so much for joining us
Speaker 1: on this, dude, this ratchet wild ride.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. We really didn't know what we were going
Speaker 3: to do it too. We had to be a bit
Speaker 3: of a year, but.
Speaker 4: Even the right year, we we got this whole ship.
Speaker 1: No, not at all, like we welcome we welcome chaos
Speaker 1: obviously if you can't tell we welcome chaos on this,
Speaker 1: we appreciate.
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