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Speaker 1: All right, and welcome into the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football podcast.

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Speaker 1: The NFL offseason rolls on, as does our early ranking series.

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Speaker 2: In this episode, it's all about the wide.

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Speaker 1: Receivers, arguably the most important position on your roster these days.

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Speaker 1: That's right, we're gonna preview the top fifty as we

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Speaker 1: approach the unofficial start of summer that is Memorial Day weekend.

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Speaker 2: And back with me is a couple absolute.

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Speaker 1: Astute rankers in the industry, including mister Big Pod Energy himself.

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Speaker 1: He's a man who has been adding titles over the

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Speaker 1: past year or so. Husband, homeowner and now dog dad

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Speaker 1: Andrew Rickson. Great to be back with you. Any big

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Speaker 1: plans for the now family of three for the long weekend.

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Speaker 3: Try to get some sleep. That's usually in the cards

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Speaker 3: here as well. But it is a special weekend for

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Speaker 3: me as well because my birthday is on Sunday, so

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Speaker 3: it's Happy birth This essually doesn't happen because Memorial Day changes,

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Speaker 3: I think exactly. I think it's like the last Monday

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Speaker 3: in May or whatever it is. It shaped up, so

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Speaker 3: it's usually not the same weekend. But this year, in particular,

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Speaker 3: Get Day, Get Memorial the day to day after, so

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Speaker 3: we'll plan in some IPAs well. That's that's that's sorting

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Speaker 3: some porch beers.

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Speaker 4: It'll be fun.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad to hear that man, Happy twenty first

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Speaker 1: birthday tea a little bit early as we head into

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Speaker 1: the weekend, and we're also back tapping into one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest brains and the deepest collection of graphic t's

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Speaker 1: that money can buy these days.

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Speaker 2: He's the athletics Jake. Seely Jake. What's good down there

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Speaker 2: on the shores of Virginia for the holiday weekend?

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Speaker 5: Bow? Oh yeah, I wore the fun hat because I

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Speaker 5: know you guys can't zoom out too far when Andrew's on,

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Speaker 5: so you don't get to really see the fun tea.

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Speaker 5: There you go, bad news, Andrew. Also, I was looking

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Speaker 5: up your birthday for famous birthdays and you don't. I

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Speaker 5: mean the top three people are TikTok and YouTube stars.

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Speaker 5: That's all you need to know how bad it is.

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Speaker 5: Queen Victoria. Wow, you share it with Queen Victoria if

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Speaker 5: that helps you. But sorry about that. You don't get

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Speaker 5: the benefit of me. I have some like Russell Wilson

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Speaker 5: and who else was like Drake or somebody I don't know.

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Speaker 5: There's a bunch on the November much better.

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Speaker 2: That's not much better.

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Speaker 5: I remember ninth has a lot I just remember looking

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Speaker 5: at it the other day. But uh, just you know,

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Speaker 5: celebrating the fact that it won't be ninety degrees this

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Speaker 5: weekend like it has been for the last three days.

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Speaker 5: We're getting that. I'm sure it ran through you already. Seth.

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Speaker 5: Is that that that heat stroke that's coming through here?

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Speaker 5: Chadwick Bosman is on my birthday too, So like that

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Speaker 5: was nice? Kay one there don cheatle, Hallie Mandel and

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Speaker 5: a Ferris. I told you Russell Wilson, Andrew McCarthy, like

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Speaker 5: we got we got a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of one person my birthday is Bob Dylan, so that

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Speaker 3: that is a good chot.

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Speaker 5: Oh really, how is that the first one that came up?

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Speaker 2: Like how's the.

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Speaker 5: Anyway? Well, congratulations on Bob doing then, and.

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Speaker 1: Jake, I'm hoping the heat kind of stays around him

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Speaker 1: going up north into New York State this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Got the Bachelor Party.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing some golfing on Saturday, so need

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Speaker 1: that heat to stay.

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Speaker 2: Around a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of fantasy

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Speaker 1: football discussion, because whenever I get together with some of

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Speaker 1: my friends I haven't seen a while, it's always this

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Speaker 2: Hey, who are you starting to look at? Who are

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Speaker 2: you trying to game?

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Speaker 1: And you know I've already lost a brother to a

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Speaker 1: fantasy football draft earlier this year.

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Speaker 2: He's disowned me from the family.

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Speaker 1: So hoping my friends don't go the same direction after

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Speaker 1: potentially hearing this episode where we're gonna have some wide

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Speaker 1: receiver takes for y'all, And before we jump into that,

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Speaker 1: a quick reminder and a shout to everyone across the

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Speaker 1: channel and the audio feed. And also a quick reminder

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Speaker 1: that this show is powered by our expert consensus rankings

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Speaker 1: that can be found at Fantasypros dot com slash A rankings,

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Speaker 1: and a part of those rankings is our Tier one

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Speaker 1: of wide receivers gentlemen, where Jamar Chase is gonna come

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Speaker 1: in at one oh one overall for us at this position,

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Speaker 1: Puku Nakua after a pretty interesting offseason, say the least

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Speaker 1: here at two overall, and then Jackson Smith Nijiba coming

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Speaker 1: off just a sensational Super Bowl Offensive Player of the

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Speaker 1: year's season at three overall. So the top tier certainly

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Speaker 1: seems to be consensus across really everyone's rankings I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: on the site right now. Ericson the question I have

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Speaker 1: is I got Pooka Nakua at number one overall. I

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Speaker 1: think if he's out on the field, I think he's

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Speaker 1: arguably the safest of these options. What argument can you

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Speaker 1: make of the three pass catchers of who should be

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Speaker 1: number one overall for you?

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Speaker 3: So I also have Jamar Chase number one, so I

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Speaker 3: agree with the consensus there. I just think that the

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Speaker 3: combination of Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow, I think it's

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four when they were the wide receiver one,

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Speaker 4: One when Burrow was healthy.

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Speaker 3: So both of them have quarterbacks that you have question

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Speaker 3: marks about, well can they play a full seventeen game season,

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Speaker 3: So kind of splitting hairs when it comes to banking

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Speaker 3: he's going to be out there a little bit more

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Speaker 3: than Pooka, who I feel like leaves every game a

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Speaker 4: So again, it's really really close.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to knock anybody if you want Poka

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Speaker 3: instead of Jamar Chase, but I think Chase is the

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Speaker 3: best wide receiver in the NFL and the one guy

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Speaker 3: in fantasy Jake.

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Speaker 1: I do agree with Erickson. There are just question marks

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Speaker 1: for me of not will he stay healthy well Joe

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Speaker 1: can you take some of these shrap nol hits that

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Speaker 1: you're gonna take with Jamar Chase? We know the Bengals

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Speaker 1: typically slow starters. Chase got off to a rocky start

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would love to have the fourth pick. If

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Speaker 5: guess see the argument for Bjeon Gibbs going one to two.

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Speaker 5: Basically my point being is I want the decision taking

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Speaker 5: tier as this tier sits. I think there's neither of

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Speaker 5: you guys brought it up. I think there's a case

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Speaker 5: for Smith and Jibbit to be the number one because

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Speaker 5: Smith and Jigbit just had his breakout, had seventeen Fantasy

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Speaker 5: that Chase played a lot without Joe Burrow last year.

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Speaker 5: But there's floors to all of them, and there's the risk.

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Speaker 5: I agree with Andrew. I have nicoa in a lot

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Speaker 5: rookie not I didn't expect this, let me make that clear.

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Speaker 5: But I sat through the frustration of like this is

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Speaker 5: freaking Julio Jones. Man, just stay on the field, like

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Speaker 5: So if you want to make that argument, maybe Stafford,

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Speaker 5: he can be a twenty point game per guy. But

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Speaker 5: that was also one out of his five seasons. And

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Speaker 5: then you can look at Smith and Jibbaga and say,

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Speaker 5: you know what, he just had his breakout season almost

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Speaker 5: eighteen fantasy points per game, and it wasn't a great

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Speaker 5: year from Darnald. Like, if you have any hope that

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Speaker 5: maybe Smith and Jibbwit takes the next step up. So

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Speaker 5: I present that all to say is I don't have

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Speaker 5: a little bit different. I'm with you. I going to

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Speaker 5: cooah Smith and jigbait Chase just because at this point

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Speaker 5: I feel like Chase is kind of the floor of

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Speaker 5: the three, like the least concerned as long as Joe

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Speaker 5: Burrow stays healthy. But any of the three I'm good with.

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Speaker 1: So let's go to tier two, where we have a

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Speaker 1: I tried to fade a year ago will not do

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Speaker 1: the same this season. Ceedee Lamb five overall, Justin Jefferson

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Speaker 1: at six, Drake London at seven, Nico Collins at eight,

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Speaker 1: How does Raschie Rice alleged thirty day jail sentence after

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Speaker 1: Are you moving him up down leaving him the same

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Speaker 5: That is leaving him until I knows I don't like

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Speaker 5: I hopefully I'm not drafting right now, and I think

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Speaker 5: push him down. I mean we're talking. You could argue

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Speaker 5: I'm looking down at the tiers. Tier three might even

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Speaker 5: still be to I think if you slide him back

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Speaker 5: Devata Smith and Jamison Williams, feels about right because we're

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Speaker 5: assuming nice timing, by the way, when the injury just

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Speaker 5: and there is no more that comes of this, Like,

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Speaker 5: have been online lawyers that have said, like, this probably

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Speaker 5: won't result in more suspensions, but who knows. But if so,

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Speaker 5: if he's one hundred percent healthy and there is no

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Speaker 5: more of it and he plays Week one from there

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Speaker 5: on out, I mean, Rice is a top ten wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: If there's more to it, and there is potentially, like

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Speaker 5: the NFL says that this isn't cool, we are going

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Speaker 5: to suspend you again, then obviously you have to play

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Speaker 5: that risk. So that's where I would kind of put

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Speaker 5: him as a today. But I'm not moving, like, I

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Speaker 5: haven't moved him in my ranks yet because there's just

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Speaker 5: so much.

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Speaker 1: Uncertainty Andrew it really is, for lack of a better term,

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Speaker 1: and uncertain situation.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: This was allegedly happening after a failed drug test from

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Speaker 1: marijuana that he spikes positive for. And then the judge

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Speaker 1: you know, throw out some things and known to kind

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Speaker 1: Brochi Rice, You're gonna go serve this jail sentence now

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that Drew Davenport on ex did a

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Speaker 3: really good job of kind of like summarizing what this

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Speaker 3: this is the same one that he was going to

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Speaker 3: how that works. The thing that Jake also said I

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's a six game suspension, but that was what

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Speaker 3: at a discount. So we'll see where he his ADP

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Speaker 3: Assume it's going to fall. So for now, I just

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Speaker 3: want to kind of keep watching. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, scott Fishbowl drafts are underway here and

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Speaker 1: just I think a little over a month, so hopefully

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Speaker 1: But really looking forward to seeing Rashie Rice back on

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Speaker 1: the field out of the headlines. I haven't wide receiver

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Speaker 3: Up, Like yeah, he's kind of like in his own

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Speaker 3: he's like in his tier of his own because we

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Speaker 3: just need more information, similar to how I kind of

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Speaker 3: Whanne's actually to come back and start to play, so

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Speaker 3: you can kind of put them in their own tier

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Speaker 3: of need more like TVD, like Lake Neighbors TVD, Rushie

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Speaker 4: But you know, when they're on the field, they're going

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Speaker 1: I think the only thing that can make this tricky

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Speaker 1: sign Stefan Diggs or Tyreek Hill. Right, then maybe we

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Speaker 1: can actively push him down in our rankings a little bit,

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Speaker 1: But until then, he stays a top ten wide receiver

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Speaker 1: for US and the consensus. Seely, what other players in

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Speaker 5: So I let everybody know most of my picks today

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Speaker 5: are too low. This is one of the very few

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Speaker 5: too high. I don't get Nico Collins in this tier

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Speaker 5: at eight Like this is also before Rashi Rice had

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Speaker 5: going to slide. Some people will already adjust, but he

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Speaker 5: that news even broke, And he's in front of George

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Speaker 5: Pickens and Chris Olave and I'm assuming AJ Brown is

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Speaker 5: a Patriot. But maybe the Chiefs get back into that,

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Speaker 5: even mcmillike, because there's a couple of things going against

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Speaker 5: Nico Collins, and I love Nico Collins the player. It

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Speaker 5: just comes down to the fact that even in his

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Speaker 5: quarter touchdown pace at quarterback twenty six would have been

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Speaker 5: that year if he played seventeen games. The seventeen games

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Speaker 5: Nico Collins hasn't. We talked about the jokes about the

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Speaker 5: injury with Nikua. The dude hasn't played more than fifteen games,

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Speaker 5: Like they like we go back fourteen, ten, fifteen, twelve, fifteen,

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Speaker 5: Like he doesn't stay on the field, And I know

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Speaker 5: between the injuries, between the touchdown potential limit to this offense,

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Speaker 5: and I do think they'll be better this year. They

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Speaker 5: And the big thing. I was actually an apologist for

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Speaker 5: and Nico Collins plays well in those situations. It was

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Speaker 5: one of the top yards per route runners. So there's

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Speaker 5: all those numbers there, and yet we've still only seen

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Speaker 5: I like Nico Collins. I just don't feel like his

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Speaker 5: Saint Brown and Drake London and basically Jefferson because Rashi

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Speaker 2: Ericson do you agree with that? Where do you have

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Speaker 3: I have him in this tier still, but towards the bottom.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not taking them over any of those guys

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Speaker 3: Stroud like a semblance of a run game, like anything

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Speaker 3: do I do disagree with him like being associated, but

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Speaker 3: I necessarily wouldn't like push back like similarly against that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, ericson who do you have beef with in

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Speaker 2: Whether it's being ranked too high or too low? Where's

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Speaker 3: So I don't have too much beef in this particular tier.

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Speaker 4: Lamb, and that's because Lamb.

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Speaker 3: Last year, I was really surprised at how the impact

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Speaker 3: I know he missed some games, but George Pickens had

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Speaker 3: really like capturing everything but I was really shocked last year.

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Speaker 3: I was not expecting Pickens to have this big of

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Speaker 3: a matter of Okay, well you can't draft Lamb he's

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Speaker 3: too expensive. It's just a matter of, well, is he

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Speaker 3: But last year with Carson Wentz, Justin Jefferson was still

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Speaker 1: So maybe not true beef, but like tofu kind of

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Speaker 1: is it possible that this Dallas defense actually improves with

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Speaker 5: I think overall this team should and I like, I

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Speaker 5: But as this was similar to what his argument pushing

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Speaker 5: just like a counterpoint on Collins as I'm actually kind

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Speaker 5: for Jefferson like he deserves to be in this tier,

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Speaker 5: because I like more of this and I don't want

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Speaker 5: to Justin Jefferson, I'd have a tough time deciding between

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Speaker 3: So I was actually like struggling to Ken Jefferson, and

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Speaker 3: I guess for me, it's just I really want to

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Speaker 3: drop Justin Jefferson. Like I'm just like everybody. I'm just

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Speaker 3: I just want to get this guy on my team.

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Speaker 3: And because Lamb is like one spot of him, and

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Speaker 3: someone's following my rankings, I'm just draft defers In like

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Speaker 3: that's who I want the most out of, you know,

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Speaker 3: again talking about these tiers, I just I think he's

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Speaker 3: so slated for a bounce back, like throw out everything

445
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Speaker 3: with McCarthy last year, Like I just want to like

446
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Speaker 3: erase it from my mind and just get Justin Jefferson

447
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Speaker 3: and if that means taking him over a guy like Lamb,

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Speaker 3: I think that I am willing to do it, just

449
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Speaker 3: based on the production dip that we saw with Pickens

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Speaker 3: also in the lineup, just from a points per game basis.

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Speaker 1: Let's go ahead in to Tier three where it's Malik

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Speaker 1: Neighbors coming in at ten overall. Guy I had ranked

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Speaker 1: a lot higher before this more recent news came out

475
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Speaker 1: where hey, he needed another cleanup surgery as well, trying

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Speaker 1: to get back here four week one. They're hopeful they

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Speaker 1: haven't committed to anything right there in New Jersey yet,

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Speaker 1: and then George Pickens at eleven overall. Chris o'lave after

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Speaker 1: a bounce back season, is at twelve. AJ Brown at

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Speaker 1: thirteen currently with the Philadelphia Eagles. We'll see as June

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Speaker 1: approaches where he does land if it is with New

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Speaker 1: England as reported. And then Tedero McMillan comes in at

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Speaker 1: fourteen overall off of that offensive Rookie of the Year season,

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Speaker 1: and then t Higgins at fifteen. Once again ericson which

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Speaker 1: receiver in this tier are you above or below consensus

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Speaker 1: on if any.

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Speaker 3: So I'm a little bit above consensus on Tetuoa McMillan.

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Speaker 3: I think that he is a player that showcased a

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Speaker 3: lot of consistency being tasked with, Okay, you're the number

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Speaker 3: one wide receiver in offense from day one, right. He

491
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Speaker 3: had no kind of runway to like, Okay, you're a receiver.

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Speaker 3: You're going to have a second half breakout. It was like, no,

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Speaker 3: like you need to be our passing game because Jalen

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Speaker 3: Coker is injured, we can't rely on Jatavian Sanders.

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Speaker 4: You're the guy.

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Speaker 3: And I think that what he did as a rookie

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Speaker 3: again winning Offensive Rookie of the Year, where I know

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Speaker 3: it was a down year for some of the rookies,

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Speaker 3: especially the running backs overall, but still really impressive. Why

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Speaker 3: receive fifteen overall? Why receiver twenty six and points per game?

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Speaker 3: He's really more of a I think it's a better

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Speaker 3: way to kind of describe his finish if you had

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Speaker 3: him on your roster, especially in the first half of

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Speaker 3: the season, there wasn't a lot of week winning performances

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Speaker 3: from t mac. We talked about it a lot on

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Speaker 3: the Trade Show myself and worm that Okay, he's like

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Speaker 3: not delivering like these big spike weeks. Part of that

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Speaker 3: was because Bryce Young is your quarterback. Part of it

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Speaker 3: was also, we want to run the ball between Chewbahrber

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Speaker 3: and Rico Dawdle. So it was kind of more of

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Speaker 3: those circumstantial factors that I think held Tetron McMillan back.

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Speaker 3: But in the games where he actually got fed double

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Speaker 3: digit targets eighteen fantasy points per game in half BPR

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Speaker 3: So when they decided, okay, we're gonna let it rip

515
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Speaker 3: a little bit here with t MAC, I thought that

516
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Speaker 3: he was a monster. I thought he was as advertised

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Speaker 3: as the best wide receiver in the twenty twenty five

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Speaker 3: draft class. So this is just kind of a bet

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Speaker 3: on a really talented rookie taking another step forward into

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Speaker 3: year two. I think the only thing holding him back

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Speaker 3: really is the quarterback and the offensive play calling. If

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Speaker 3: it's just a little bit more of Okay, we're going

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Speaker 3: to be bond and five and passwaight over expectation, we're

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Speaker 3: not going to hashtag let Bryce Young cook, which I

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Speaker 3: don't necessarily disagree with. I don't think that he is

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Speaker 3: the most prolific passer, But to Bryce Young's credit and

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Speaker 3: Dave Canalis, Young has improved every year of his NFL career,

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Speaker 3: and I think adding a receiver like Tea Mac helped

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Speaker 3: him get a lot better. And another thing I looked

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Speaker 3: at too, from the next gen stats. I noticed that

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Speaker 3: and just kind of like looking at the stats every

532
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Speaker 3: single week when I write some of my recap articles,

533
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Speaker 3: is some of the most consistent fantasy producers. In high

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Speaker 3: end fantasy producers at the wide receiver position, they put

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Speaker 3: up a lot of their yardage on inbreaking routes, kind

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Speaker 3: of just like how you're seeing a lot of receivers

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Speaker 3: dominate today. McMillan seventh yards on inbreaking routes behind guys

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Speaker 3: like JSN, Poka Nakua, George Pickens, I'm on Russ Saint Brown,

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Speaker 3: like all the guys we talked about the top of

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Speaker 3: the board in fantasy. He is checking off some of

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Speaker 3: those boxes. So I just think it's one of these

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Speaker 3: things where looks like an alpha, smells like an al.

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Speaker 3: He's probably just an alpha wide receiver, and I think

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Speaker 3: that he can take the next step and at worst

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Speaker 3: case scenario, maybe he finishes right outside the wide receiver

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Speaker 3: one territory. Again, I'm okay with that, where at least

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Speaker 3: I can shoot on the upside that. Oh man, I

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Speaker 3: could see him being a top five guy if he

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Speaker 3: really takes that next step four in his second season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's someone whether it's time down there at

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Speaker 1: Arizona or now here in the NFL where he hasn't

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Speaker 1: missed a lot of time. Right, he's younger than some

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Speaker 1: of these other receivers he's ranked around. It feels like

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Speaker 1: he might be a little bit less of an injury risk,

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Speaker 1: but he doesn't have the best quarterback right, And that's

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Speaker 1: kind of what we have to sift through Jake based

557
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Speaker 1: on what they did in the draft, adding Chris Brazil

558
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Speaker 1: there on day two? Are are you in out on

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Speaker 1: Tenorro macmillan at the current price tags? That sound about

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Speaker 1: right what Ericson's saying.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm good with the price where he's at. Like

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Speaker 5: if you want to argue a little bit higher, like okay,

563
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Speaker 5: maybe if you want to say, as of today, we

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Speaker 5: don't know aj Brown. Maybe if you want to downgrade

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Speaker 5: Chris Olave for Tyson coming in and maybe it siphons

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Speaker 5: some off of him, like I wouldn't because I'm good

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Speaker 5: where he's at, mostly because and this isn't to be

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Speaker 5: like ha ha ha. I predicted his stat line, but

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Speaker 5: I was almost like one on his stat line from

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Speaker 5: last year, and it's the production basis on the per

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Speaker 5: targets that Andrew brought up, you still have to rely

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Speaker 5: on price Young. So I'm with this, if he gets

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Speaker 5: to one hundred and forty plus targets, that he could

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Speaker 5: get higher, that he could get to wide receiver one territory,

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Speaker 5: that he could even be a top ten because one

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Speaker 5: hundred and forty targets, it's pretty hard not to be

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Speaker 5: top ten as long as your quarterback is capable, justin

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Speaker 5: Jefferson from before. But I think that's the biggest question.

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Speaker 5: If he gets to one hundred and forty, I'm not

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Speaker 5: worried that much about Brazil taking away from him. I'm

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Speaker 5: not really worried about whether anybody on this roster takes

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Speaker 5: much away from him as long as he's seeing that volume,

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Speaker 5: which kind of says more to a per game basis

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Speaker 5: for the entire team versus more of his target share.

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Speaker 5: Because his target share, I don't think it's going to

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Speaker 5: change even with any addition that they make, including Brazil

587
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Speaker 5: so far. But I think if he gets to one

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Speaker 5: hundred and forty that that ratio of receptions, yards and

589
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Speaker 5: touchdowns are pretty much going to stay the same, and

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Speaker 5: that uptick is just going to get him beside the

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Speaker 5: top ten.

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Speaker 4: So that's what I want to say, Seth cauld I

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Speaker 4: add two things. I just want to.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just answer for Seth.

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Speaker 4: No, you know, we're taking over the show.

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Speaker 3: I think with Brasle too, I think his addition is

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Speaker 3: going to help boost efficiency for TAMAC because of the

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Speaker 3: way that he can stretch the field, make it a

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Speaker 3: little bit easier for to operate undera because that was

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Speaker 3: the big thing rookie year. Team AC wasn't this like

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Speaker 3: super hyper efficient wide receiver, Like he was pretty good.

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Speaker 2: A lot of double teams, catching a lot of double.

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Speaker 3: Team again from day one, it's like you're you're the

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Speaker 3: number one guy in our offense as a rookie, like go,

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Speaker 3: so you're going to run some growing pains there. But

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Speaker 3: I thought that he improved in the second half of

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Speaker 3: the season, So I think bringing him Brazzle to kind

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Speaker 3: of just like open things up a little bit, I

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Speaker 3: think really helps. And the other thing I wanted to

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Speaker 3: mention too is love Mike Clay's projections. And I have

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Speaker 3: to mention this because you mentioned the exact number he

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Speaker 3: has teamac one hundred and forty targets exactly, So.

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Speaker 4: I just like, so like that you've listened.

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Speaker 3: That off as the exact number. I just wanted to

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Speaker 3: make sure I added that too, because I think, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, last year he hit over one hundred and twenty,

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Speaker 3: so I think that he can definitely for with one

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Speaker 3: hundred and forty targets and he played seventeen games.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 1: Shout out Mike Clay fellow PA State scholer Kutztown University

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Speaker 1: alumnus Mike Clay and speaking of a guy who used

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Speaker 1: to reside in Pennsylvania, JA, who do you have? And

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Speaker 1: this is where that you're either higher or lower on

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Speaker 1: than consensus.

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Speaker 5: So George Pickens, I think that his name needs to

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Speaker 5: like deserves to be with the tier we just talked

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Speaker 5: about alongside t Higgins. He just had fourteen Fantasy points

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Speaker 5: per game. Over fourteen Fantasy points per game. I brought

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Speaker 5: up the fact we were talking about Lamb that he

630
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Speaker 5: was more of the touchdown maker, and I know a

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Speaker 5: lot of people were talking about his two huge games

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Speaker 5: early in the season without Lamb. He also had two

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Speaker 5: huge games after Lamb came back and then they kind

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Speaker 5: of went back and forth for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 5: And I don't care about the back and forth because

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Speaker 5: I don't care about the back and forth T Higgins

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Speaker 5: just two years ago. By the way, if you take

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Speaker 5: players that played at least ten games, because Rashie Rice

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Speaker 5: and Chris Godwin fall into this group, if not so,

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Speaker 5: number one Jamar Chase and Fantasy points per game Number

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Speaker 5: two was T Higgins if you want to throw Rice

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Speaker 5: in Godwin ahead of him, but whether okay, he's number four.

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Speaker 5: And then we've seen aj Brown and Devonte Smith both

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Speaker 5: finish as wide receiver ones just a few years ago,

645
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Speaker 5: averaging over thirteen Fantasy points per game. And that's what

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Speaker 5: I'm going back to is he had fourteen, and I'm

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Speaker 5: saying that Lamb should get back to fourteen to fifteen.

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Speaker 5: Pickens can stay in the fourteenth to fifteen without a

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Speaker 5: drop off or anything siphoning off Lamb because they did

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Speaker 5: it back and forth once they were both healthy down

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Speaker 5: the stretch. And That's where I'm looking at here, And

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Speaker 5: to go to Andrew's point is that that's what works

653
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Speaker 5: so well, Yeah, it hurt Lamb being able to get

654
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 5: back to seventeen, eighteen, nineteen fantasy points per game, but

655
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 5: having that number two across from him helped Pickens get

656
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 5: the best out of his game. And also, like I said,

657
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 5: Lamb was actually doing better with Pickens. It just didn't

658
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 5: help us in fantasy because of the touchdowns. But I

659
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 5: just think Pickens deserves to have his name into that

660
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 5: previous group because those are where we're talking about fourteen

661
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 5: plus fantasy points per game guys, and that's what he is.

662
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 5: I don't think there's going to be a falloff even

663
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 5: if lam stays one hundred percent healthy. And it's funny

664
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 5: to tell Andrew, while you said the one hundred and

665
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 5: forty targets, well, Pickens just had one hundred and thirty

666
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 5: seven for ninety three fourteen hundred and nine touchdowns for

667
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 5: fourteen four point four to three fantasy points per game,

668
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 5: which put him at six. So I think that's in

669
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 5: play for McMillan if he gets to that one hundred

670
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 5: and forty, because it's a very similar projection.

671
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: Line Andrew GP or McMillan for you this season.

672
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 4: It's still going to be a GP for me.

673
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: So I have GP at ten, so I'm actually one

674
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: spot ahead of consensus on on drugs Pickens, So yeah,

675
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: I mean I was wrong about hate him an ultim

676
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 3: ultimate hater. I guess do you like so you like

677
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 3: both Lamb and Pickens at cost or do you prefer one?

678
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: I mean Pickens is obviously.

679
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 5: No no, yeah, Pickens at cost is cheaper. And also

680
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 5: I can get like like knowing that I'm probably gonna

681
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 5: get him because I have him two or three spots

682
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 5: ahead of what air DP is. Lamb is right.

683
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: At so well actually counterpart with Pickens. Would you lower

684
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: him if he is like a holdout and it's like

685
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: I want the long term.

686
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: Because that's like I'm trying to do. That's the know.

687
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: But this happens though, like ty McLaurin last year hold

688
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: out like it was like immediate like faith the sky

689
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: into oblivion.

690
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 5: I'm going to reference something for that for everybody out

691
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 5: there a few years ago and this isn't this isn't hah.

692
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 5: I talked to him, but like, okay, Mike Tommins from

693
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 5: Hampton Rose area. I'm in the Hampton Rose area. He

694
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 5: has a benefit foundation for kids here and this is

695
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 5: where I got to interview him. This goes all the

696
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 5: way back to levey On Bell and this this is

697
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 5: relevant for what you just asked Andrew, and I said,

698
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 5: are you worried about Leveon Bell. It was the year

699
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 5: that he actually had the suspension to start the season,

700
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 5: And I said, are you worried about him when he

701
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 5: comes back? And he said, I'll tell you this that

702
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 5: people don't realize. So when it comes to these players,

703
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 5: I don't have any concerns that they're in shape. He's like,

704
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 5: they're going they know how to take care of their bodies,

705
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 5: he said, but there's a difference in workout shape and

706
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 5: game shape. It's two completely different things. And he goes,

707
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 5: I want them out there being able to be game

708
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 5: shape and be able to have those hits and be ready.

709
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 5: So to your point about the holdout, yeah, I know

710
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 5: we're talking about practice, but practice does matter to a degree,

711
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 5: and you just the Terry McLaurin is a good reference point.

712
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

713
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I always get worried when it comes to these holdouts.

714
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: I got got by brain and a couple of season

715
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: to do it.

716
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 5: He is a world of his own at this point.

717
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked about it. I remember what shows on

718
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 4: me was like, what's stay is he in? Like? Mentally physically,

719
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 4: Where is Brandon Ayuk in the world.

720
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 5: We don't know where the world is Brandon ni.

721
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: I still don't think we know honestly where where this

722
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: guy is. He might be chilling up in Andrew's neighborhood

723
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: for all we know at this point. But let's go

724
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: ahead to tier four here, gentlemen, Davonta Smith in at

725
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: sixteen overall, seventeen, Garrett Wilson eighteen, DeVante Ams, Lad McConkie

726
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: at nineteen, Jake's best friend Zay Flowers at twenty, Luther

727
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: Burden the third at twenty one, Terry McLaurin there he

728
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: is twenty two overall, Jalen Wattle with a new home

729
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: out in Denver twenty three, ameca Abuka as potentially maybe

730
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 1: the presumptive wide receiver one there in Tampa Bay at

731
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: twenty four, Mike Evans onto greener pastures out there in

732
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: San Francisco at twenty five, and then Jamo, Jameis and

733
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: Williams at twenty six.

734
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: The back half of wide.

735
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: Res receiver two finishers last year largely disappointing, right, But

736
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, guys, like I'm really intrigued

737
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: by some of these names, so seely is there one

738
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: of them.

739
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: That maybe I should be a little weary of in

740
00:31:58,920 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: this group?

741
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 5: Not Leary. I am actually back. This is funny. We

742
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 5: did the Quarterback Show and I said, we've gone so

743
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 5: far down this road that from day one I hated

744
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones and I was the Daniel Jones hater, and

745
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 5: the hate's gone so far that now I become the

746
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones supporter. Okay, well, the same boat for years.

747
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 5: I talked about Zave Flowers in this offense and his

748
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 5: touchdown cap ceiling and the way this team plays, and

749
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 5: I was like, Zave Flowers is a really good low

750
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 5: end wide receiver too. It's cool. Let's just accept it,

751
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 5: like we don't have to hope for more. And that's

752
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 5: where like the hate came from. When people want to dress, well,

753
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 5: he has the potential to be a wide receiver one.

754
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 5: It's like, I get that, but the offense needs to

755
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 5: change for that. Well, we are changing, and we also

756
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 5: just saw the changes. Mark Andrews basically fell off a

757
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 5: cliff one of the worst. I don't know if you

758
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 5: saw the stat yesterday. I forget who tweeted it out,

759
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 5: but it was one of the worst yards per route

760
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 5: run and yards after the catch for any tight end

761
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 5: in like the past ten years, and basically a touchdown guy.

762
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 5: Now Isaiah likely's out the door. And they still they

763
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 5: did address in the draft the wide receiver position, but

764
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 5: like certainly did. But Flyer kind of like, we hope

765
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 5: one of these and I don't want to say Flyer.

766
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 5: I like the talent of both, but both of these

767
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 5: guys being like, we hope they can step up and

768
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 5: become a number two. There is nobody on this team

769
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 5: that is definitively the number two. It's kind of a

770
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 5: collection of parts. And then you add in Decklan Doyle,

771
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 5: who I brought up on the other show with Lamar Jackson,

772
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 5: a lot of play action potentially here, and Lamar Jackson

773
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 5: is one of the best, and he just was the

774
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 5: past two years best play action throwers in the league.

775
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 5: In touchdowns are first downs per attempt. And now you

776
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 5: add that to the offense with Zave Flowers who just

777
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 5: took that final step forward that we wanted to see,

778
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 5: the touchdowns can be there. Even if he's only that

779
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 5: being Lamar Jackson's only throwing twenty eight thirty instead of

780
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 5: that forty one but all that being says, now I'm

781
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 5: the Jay Flowers guy because I have him at sixteen,

782
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 5: still in this tier. But we've gone full circle to

783
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 5: the point where like, apparently now I'm Jay Flowers supporter

784
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 5: because I don't understand we've this is so weird, like

785
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 5: maybe I have more power than I think. I'm just

786
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 5: joking when I say that, but it's like it was like,

787
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 5: we don't need to put him as a wide receiver

788
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 5: one just this understand he's wide receiver eighteen to twenty

789
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 5: eighteen to twenty eighteen to twenty. And then he has

790
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 5: a top ten finish and I'm like, oh yeah, I

791
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 5: like what Doyle can potentially do here. I'm gonna put

792
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 5: up sixteen. And then I look and he's twenty and

793
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 5: I'm like, I thought I'd still be the low guy.

794
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 5: Well things change.

795
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: I've kind of flipped on him, honestly, Where last year

796
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 1: I had a lot of a Flowers.

797
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 2: Just because of the I thought the price was fair.

798
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm kind of out just because like it wasn't a

799
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: fun ride, to be honest, Like you had this fight

800
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: game in week one, no one really knew if they

801
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: should play him or not. And then Besides that, like

802
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: the lack of touchdowns is real here, the lack of

803
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: deep passing for Lamar Jackson last season was real. I

804
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: worry about the injury concerns there and like Andrew for me,

805
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: I just think a lot of these other receivers in

806
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: this tier.

807
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 2: I mean, look at Jameson Williams.

808
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: This guy's been a wide receiver one before he's down there,

809
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: Mike Evans, Amica Buca, like, I just think there's more

810
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: upside down in this tier. Further, including Eric, a guy

811
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: that comes in one spot above Flowers in our consensus

812
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: rankings that you'd like to talk about.

813
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: So I don't have this guy above Jay Flowers. To

814
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: be clear, I think that Flowers basically all of these

815
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: guys in this year because I think that he is

816
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: on a superstar path, a player that's improved every single

817
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: year of his NFL career. Look last year, he was

818
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: hyper efficient yards per out run top five in the NFL,

819
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: and that was playing with an injured Lamar Jackson for

820
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 3: half the season. So I think that he's the clear

821
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 3: cut number one target option on this team. I think

822
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 3: Declan Doyle is going to run more fast paced than

823
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 3: we've seen with Todd Monk in the last two seasons.

824
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 3: Look at how fast paced that Ben Johnson offense was

825
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: last year, where Decklan Doyle last spent.

826
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 4: As a coach.

827
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: So I think that this is going to be Za

828
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 3: Flowers like Superstar season where it's the top five season

829
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: and he's a difference maker. I just think he's super talented.

830
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: I think he's so good atter I agree with that.

831
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 3: And I think that in a new offense he'll have

832
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 3: the opportunity to be to shine. So I really like

833
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,479
Speaker 3: him a lot this year.

834
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, real quick, if you just give him

835
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 5: twelve more targets on the pace he was on last year,

836
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 5: just twelve more, that puts him as wide receiver six,

837
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 5: just behind George Pickens, just twelve more targets.

838
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: And every year there's always one guy where the conversation

839
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: going in is, well, he never scores touchdowns, he never

840
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: scores touchdowns, and then what happens, like he just scores

841
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: touchdowns and then he melts fantasy football.

842
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 4: That happened with Trayman Bride a couple of years. Agoes, Oh,

843
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 4: a guy can never score. He's allergic to the end.

844
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: Zon Zech took a couple of seasons ago exactly.

845
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 3: So it's like, I know he's super talented. I know

846
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: he's a great wide receiver. He just has to see Lamb.

847
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 5: Doesn't really score touchdowns outside of that one season, Like

848
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 5: I mean to the volume of what we're talking about.

849
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: Right, and just can you pinpoint the season where this

850
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: is what happens for Za Flowers as wide receiver wide

851
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: receiver twenty I still can't believe DeVonta Anams is going

852
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 3: ahead of Za Flowers. I said, I just can't rap

853
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 3: my mind. But that's fine. Lad McConkie also a player

854
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 3: that I really like in this particular tier. I want

855
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: to write off a lot of what happened last year

856
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 3: because of all of the injuries that happened to the

857
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 3: Charger's opposive line. The offense was a mess, guys in

858
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 3: and out of the lineup. Justin Herbert's playing with a

859
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 3: broken hand, So I don't want to hold what happened

860
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: to him last year against him. With Keenan Allen leaving

861
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 3: the team in targets, like Greg Roman decided, Okay, our

862
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 3: best way to operate this offense is for Keenan Allen

863
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: to be the number one target, not lam McConkie, so

864
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: that's no longer gonna be the case. Keen Allen is

865
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 3: gone and his team leading targets are also gone from

866
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: this offense, So I think that that opens up the

867
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: opportunity for McConkie to recapture what he did his rookie

868
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: year where he was a superstar.

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Speaker 4: Again.

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00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 3: We were drafting him as a back end fantasy wide

871
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 3: receiver one after his rookie season because of how great

872
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 3: that he was. So I think that top ten and

873
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: decated targets after losing Keenan Allen, who was also hyper

874
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 3: target on third downs for Justin Herbert last year, I

875
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 3: think that's where lam mcconky's going to fill into that role.

876
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 3: And I wanted to shout out Ryan Heath from Fantasy

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00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: Points as well. He did a great article talking about

878
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 3: how wide receivers can benefit in heavy tight end personnel.

879
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 3: That's what we're going to see in LA with David

880
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 3: and Joku, with Gadsten, Charlie Colhart, You're gonna see a

881
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 3: lot of tight end sets. So that means Lamaconky's competing

882
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 3: for targets with tight ends and just one other wide receiver,

883
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 3: making it really easy for him to be really efficient

884
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: and gobble up volume. So I think Lamaconky is a

885
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 3: prime bounce back candidate after a down sophomore year. We

886
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 3: know what the ceiling is. He did it his rookie year.

887
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel, Justin Herbert, an elite passer. I'm all aboard

888
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: the lad train.

889
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: He was someone I had ranked very high last season

890
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: and then pulled back the curtain a little bit right

891
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,880
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892
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: because I was worried that Keenan just soaks up a

893
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: ton of targets. He did really to an astronomical number there,

894
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:40,720
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Speaker 1: All right, folks, We're on to Tier five, starting with

941
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: Christian Watson coming in at twenty seven. DJ Moore with

942
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: the bills now twenty eight overall. Rome A Duneesay twenty nine,

943
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: Carnel Tait in his rookie season for the Tennessee Titans

944
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: at thirty Marvin Harrison Junior at thirty one, DK Metcalf

945
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: at thirty two, Alex Pierce off a huge extension for

946
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: him thirty three, Portland Sutton now having company in Denver

947
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: at thirty four, Jordan Tyson with the Saints after going

948
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: as a top ten pick at thirty five overall, and

949
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: then Michael Wilson with a pretty sneaky one thousand yard

950
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: season in at thirty six. We have rookies in this tier,

951
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: we have players who were hoping will bounce back and

952
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: others who had a really strong twenty five. So a

953
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: lot of variants in this tier. That said, Erickson, is

954
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: there a player you're more willing or unwilling to take

955
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: us swing on than others in this particular tier.

956
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 4: I'm not willing to take the swing on Michael Wilson.

957
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 4: I think that is thought we're going to have our

958
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 4: first battle.

959
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: No, No, we are not going to have a battle here, Jake,

960
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 3: because we see eye to eye when it comes to

961
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: these wide receivers, and with Michael Wilson, I see a Fugazi.

962
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 3: I see a player that seems like a trap. Last year,

963
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 3: all of his numbers when he was basically putting up

964
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 3: pukin Nakua like numbers in the six crazy sixth seven

965
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 3: games basically that he played without Marvin Harrison Junior lineup

966
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: just an absolute monster. After Week ten, he was wide

967
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: receiver foign points per game wide receiver three overall. So

968
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying all these great things about Michael Wilson's why

969
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: should I be low on him? Well, Marvin Harrison Junior

970
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 3: is going to be back on the team. He's gonna

971
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 3: be playing and healthy in twenty twenty six. And the

972
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 3: target rate perute run is so glaring, the difference between

973
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: when Harrison played and when he didn't play without Harrison

974
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 3: the lineup. Michael Wilson's target rate prout run was twenty

975
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 3: nine percent. When Harrison played, it was twelve percent. He

976
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 3: was a ghost. You couldn't play Michael Wilson in any

977
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 3: format when Martin Harrison Junior was in the lineup. And

978
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: then he misses games, Michael Wilson turns into Jerry Rice two.

979
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 4: Why O?

980
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 3: But I think that a lot of that was really

981
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 3: more of the counting stats which Kobe Prissett. No team

982
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 3: was throwing more than the Arizona Cardinals last year. They

983
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: were first in passbreak over expectation. They did a seventy

984
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 3: percent pass rate overall. And when I see numbers like that,

985
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 3: it reminds me of the twenty twenty four Cleveland Browns

986
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 3: with Jamis Winston and who benefit from that in the

987
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 3: biggest way had a thousand yard season, Jerry Judy and

988
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 3: what happened to him the following season, Like the splits

989
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 3: fell off because the team wasn't throwing nearly as much.

990
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 3: So with Arizona investing in a running back with the

991
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 3: top five pick, I think they're going to try to

992
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: be more balanced on a run pass ratio and you're

993
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 3: not going to see as many dropbacks. I think from

994
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett. You have a potential for Carson Beck to

995
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: start games for this offense. And if Michael Wilson is

996
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: the number three real life pass catcher from Carson Beck

997
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 3: on the Arizona Cardinals, that's gonna be wide receiver of

998
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 3: thirty six, a player that I'm gonna be considered starting

999
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 3: or flexing in my lineup. I just don't see the

1000
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: appeal I shouldn'tay. I don't see the appeal obviously if

1001
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: Marvins Harrison Junior missus games like you saw it last year,

1002
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 3: Like there was a lot of upside with Michael Wilson,

1003
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 3: But I just think right now he just wasn't a

1004
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: target earner when Marvin Harrison Junior was on the field,

1005
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 3: and that has more sticking power to me as we

1006
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 3: try to project what he's going to do in the

1007
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: future versus well, he was so good with this guy

1008
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 3: miss games over what if he doesn't miss games, then

1009
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: Michael Wilson's going to be a total zero. And that

1010
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 3: concerns me, which is why I think he's ranked too high.

1011
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very fair.

1012
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: Wilson is someone coming out of Stanford that I loved

1013
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: a couple of seasons ago, had him on a bunch

1014
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: of Dynasty teams. I was kind of just waiting for

1015
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: him to do something. He finally did it. But that's

1016
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: a great point ericson, Like these players were drafting in

1017
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: this tier, they are going to be starters for your team.

1018
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to.

1019
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: Rely on them week in and week out, no matter

1020
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: the quarterback situation, no matter the team overall, and I

1021
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 1: think there's potential. This Arizona team, despite all the talent

1022
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: they have on offense, is one of the worst overall

1023
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL. So it's hard to tie yourself

1024
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: there at thirty six overall too, a guy that only

1025
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: did it for one season so far. Jake, who in

1026
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: this tier are you willing to tie your wagon to

1027
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: or unwilling to?

1028
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna agree on this one, So I'm just

1029
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 5: gonna back up Andrew. I thought we're gonna argue because

1030
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 5: I had Marvin Harrison as being higher because of everything

1031
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 5: he just said, and I like, I watched those games

1032
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 5: like everybody did, and he saw the fact that Jacoby

1033
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 5: Brissett treated him as the number one. I mean, we

1034
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 5: all go back to remembering that Marvin Harrison was doing

1035
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 5: umping jacks, wanting Kyler Murray to look back his way

1036
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 5: while he's wide open. Jacoby Brissett didn't have that problem.

1037
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 5: He saw Marvin, He saw Marvin. He saw Marvin. And

1038
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 5: I know some people might overall look at the stats,

1039
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 5: but those last two games you pretty much throw him

1040
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 5: outrom Marvin Harrison because he hurt his other foot and

1041
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 5: then he was playing through like those last two games

1042
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 5: were just he was hurt again, but just specifically before

1043
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 5: we move on from this, to echo some of the

1044
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 5: stats for people that might want those like Andrew pointed

1045
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 5: out Week six, seven, nine, ten, and thirteen when he

1046
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 5: left early in the second half, but those are essentially

1047
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 5: the five games where they played together with Jacoby Brissett

1048
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 5: twenty over twenty percent of the team target share to

1049
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 5: Michael Wilson at fourteen point eight and that's with thirty

1050
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 5: two fewer snaps. That's team target percentage, not just the

1051
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 5: routesays that Andrew was saying. Twelve point seven are yards

1052
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 5: to target to nine point four for Michael Wilson, one

1053
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 5: point seven six yards per route run to one point

1054
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 5: ten for Michael Wilson. And here's the biggest one. It's

1055
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 5: not that Jacoby Brissett just looked to him eight end

1056
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 5: zone targets to two for Michael Wilson. He's also somebody

1057
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 5: he looks for when he needs to score the touchdown.

1058
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 5: And that's why in those games alone, ten point six

1059
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 5: fantasy points per game for Marvin Harrison, six point zero

1060
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 5: for Michael Wilson. So we can agree and move on

1061
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 5: to the next group because we're on the same page.

1062
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I love to hear that.

1063
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: Well. Let's go to Tier six though, where it is

1064
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin thirty seven, Brian Thomas Junior hoping to bounce

1065
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: back at thirty eight, McKay Lemon landing with the Eagles

1066
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: at thirty nine. Jacobe Meyers coming off the great season

1067
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: after being traded midseason Jacksonville at forty Speaking of Jacksonville,

1068
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: a Parker Washington at forty one, Jordan Addison at forty two,

1069
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: Ricky Pearsall at forty three, Michael Pittman Junior now with

1070
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: the Steelers at forty four, Wandale Robinson now in the

1071
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: Music City at forty five. Jayden reed back after a

1072
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: contract extension with the Green Bay Packers forty six, Quinton Johnston,

1073
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: who was first half darling in many fantasy leagues forty seven,

1074
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: Josh Downs forty eight, Jane Higgins forty nine, and Khalil

1075
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: Shakur at fifty. I have to say, guys, like I

1076
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: think my favorite value in this tier has quickly become

1077
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison, which I've never been a huge Addison guy,

1078
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 1: But Jake, I'd love to hear you might be target

1079
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: in this group of pass catchers right around that wide

1080
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: receiver for territory.

1081
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 5: So because and especially Andrew and I have overlapped a

1082
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 5: lot of these wide receiver shows. I already talked a

1083
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 5: ton about Mkay Lemon this is stupid, also talked a

1084
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 5: lot about Parker Washington with the Jaguars depth chart should

1085
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 5: also be higher. But so I'm gonna take a third

1086
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 5: because I've talked about them on so many shows. It

1087
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 5: is Josh Downs. And because look at the Colts, who's

1088
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 5: the number two, clearly Josh Downs. They brought in Nick

1089
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 5: Westbrook Akina as the third, and then they drafted a

1090
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 5: seventh rounder in Dion Burks who has some deeplayability, And

1091
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 5: I think there's something potentially there down the road, but

1092
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 5: probably still only as a third wide receiver. It is

1093
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 5: Josh Downs. And do I think more of Tyler Warren

1094
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 5: in the second season? And maybe we got too hyped

1095
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 5: up last year, sure, but even so you're still talking

1096
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 5: about three guys that are essentially going to be the

1097
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 5: main options between Alec Pierce, Josh Downs, and Tyler Warren.

1098
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 5: And if you got to the end of the season

1099
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 5: and you said, hey, Jake, looking back, because of what

1100
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 5: al Pierce does. Did you know Josh Downs actually led

1101
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 5: this team in targets? It wouldn't shock me. I'm not

1102
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 5: gonna call I don't think that happens. Sure, but given

1103
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 5: his style of play and where he succeeds and being

1104
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 5: that reliable intermediate play, I think as long as Daniel

1105
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 5: Jones is healthy, Josh Downs being down here is kind

1106
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 5: of crazy.

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00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: Okay, ericson what about you?

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00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: Who's someone who's sticking out in this tire, whether that's

1109
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 1: for positive reasons or maybe not so positive.

1110
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have put Josh Downs if Jake had

1111
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 3: beat me to the show sheet and put Josh Downs himself.

1112
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 5: Well, you ala talked about him a lot, So that's

1113
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 5: why I like, there you go.

1114
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 3: It's the right answer though, Like that's the thing, like

1115
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 3: we talked about these same guys because we want to

1116
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 3: be right at the end of the day. The more

1117
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: we diversify, the more we run into trouble. So that

1118
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 3: being said, gonna diversify a little bit here with another

1119
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 3: player that I do like a decent bit in this range.

1120
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 3: I like Ricky piersol So the forty nine ers, they

1121
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 3: have a lot of change with their wide receivers.

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00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 4: No more Brandon i Yuk, No more Juwan Jennings. He's

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00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 4: not coming back.

1124
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 3: And Jennings surprisingly was like top five in the NFL

1125
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 3: in red zone targets last year among wide receiver, So

1126
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: this's a big vacated especially in the red zone. Now

1127
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: that's probably going to be where Mike Evans delivers a

1128
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: lot of his fantasy goodness. So not saying that Pearsall

1129
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 3: is going to be the number one guy, but Evans

1130
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 3: is a much older wide receiver, has dealt with injuries.

1131
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 3: We know that a lot of the players on the

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00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 3: forty nine ers have dealt with injuries. So if Pearsall,

1133
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 3: the younger of a lot of these different guys, can

1134
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 3: stay healthy, I mean, look, last year he flashed. He

1135
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 3: had four games with eighty five or more receiving yards.

1136
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 3: He led the forty nine ers in receiving arts per

1137
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: game at fifty nine, so he had more sixty yard

1138
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 3: games than Mike Evans did last year. Now, Mike Evans

1139
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: missed basically half the season, so that has to do

1140
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 3: with it. But so to Ricky Pearsall, he only played

1141
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: nine games and he had over eighty five in four

1142
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 3: of those contests, So I think he's kind of like

1143
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 3: a free flyer former first round pick. I'm not sold

1144
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 3: on to Sean Scribbling as this major target earner from

1145
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 3: day one. I think if Pearsall's healthy, he's going to

1146
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: be out there as a starter along with Mike Evans.

1147
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 3: And I'm not a believer in Christian Kirk at this

1148
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 3: point in his career as well. He has not been

1149
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 3: able to stay healthy the last three seasons. He's missed

1150
00:49:54,840 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 3: over half the year. So former first round pick Ricky Pearsall, look,

1151
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 3: you're Andrew Prontail, You're not, and right now it's not

1152
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: being baked in the upside if he is the actual

1153
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: number one wide receiver on this team, Mike Evans draws

1154
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 3: a lot of defensive attention. That's gonna get a lot

1155
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 3: of favorable looks for Ricky Pearsol so in an offense

1156
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 3: that thrives on efficiency. He's had chemistry with Rock Party

1157
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 3: in the past as a wide receiver for sign me

1158
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 3: up for Slick rick.

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00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: All Right, I like to call there because Ricky was

1160
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: someone last season. He kind of began the offseason in

1161
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: this tier of wide receiver fours and by the end

1162
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: of draft season really being taken more as a wide

1163
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,959
Speaker 1: receiver three with upside and just never delivered. Specifically because

1164
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: he was hurt in the beginning of the year, right,

1165
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: people might have dropped him, then by the end of

1166
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: the season might have traded him away, and then really

1167
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: someone else benefited from those bigger games down the stretch

1168
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: once he was healthy, once brock Purty returned as well.

1169
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: So I think that's a good thing just to keep

1170
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: in mind there, specifically when we're thinking about wide receivers

1171
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: who might have let us down at the beginning of

1172
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: the season but actually had some pretty good stretches down

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Speaker 1: the run.

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Speaker 2: Let's go on on to honorable mentions.

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00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: I want to talk about players that we have outside

1176
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: our top fifty who might be worth a late round

1177
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: dart throw on as a bench stash. I want to

1178
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: start with you ericson who's someone that you're taking in

1179
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: your drafts and you're just gonna hey, let's leave him

1180
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: on the bench for a week or two, but maybe

1181
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: they can blum int something.

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00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 3: Casey concept she on, rookie wide receiver for the Cleveland Browns.

1183
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 3: Just not sold on Jerry Judy after another down year

1184
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: of him being talked up as the BELCW for the

1185
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns passing game. The quarterback situation is shoddy in Cleveland,

1186
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: as we all know, but if one guy can make

1187
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 3: it work, it's someone that can do all his damage

1188
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 3: after the catch, so all Cleveland has to do is

1189
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 3: get the ball in his hands. I think he can

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00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 3: make a lot of plays. I know that Monk and

1191
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 3: has kind of talked about him as maybe his A

1192
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 3: Flowers in this offense, so I think that that can

1193
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 3: really fit well with him and him he can out

1194
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 3: produced like a top outside the top fifty in the ECR.

1195
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 3: He's a first first round wide receiver, super talented, broke

1196
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 3: out an early age, and he can win in a

1197
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 3: lot of ways. So I like Casey concept Jon as

1198
00:51:58,760 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 3: a bench slash.

1199
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm totally in with you when we have player props

1200
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: come out, Casey con steptsy on. Even though like I'm

1201
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: not as big of a guy on his prospect profile

1202
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,479
Speaker 1: like Derek Is, I definitely still like him specifically because

1203
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: I think he can do what Zay Flowers can do

1204
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: where he can play inside, he can play outside, and

1205
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: look at what Zay Flowers did as a rookie in

1206
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 1: Todd Monkins first year in Baltimore, one hundred and eight targets,

1207
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: seventy seven receptions, eight hundred and fifty eight yards, and

1208
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: five touchdowns. So like, if there's a seven hundred, seven

1209
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty plus yardage marker prop for Casey exceptsy

1210
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: On out there, I'm gonna be clicking it. I think

1211
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: specifically because of what you said there with Monkin, I

1212
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: just hope, like, do you hope it's should Or Andrew

1213
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 1: or do you hope it's Deshaun Watson this season?

1214
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 4: Anything but Deshaun Watson. Okay, Okay, it's just a question. Yeah.

1215
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: I had this debate the other day on a program

1216
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 1: and one of my coas was strongly advising Deshaun Watson

1217
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: over Shaudor. But I definitely would like to. I mean,

1218
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: Shouldor was three and four last season. Man, he didn't

1219
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: look terrible. So I think Casey conceptsy On there's a

1220
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: lot of upside. And to get a first round rookie

1221
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver outside the top fifty of ECR right now.

1222
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: Feels pretty pretty good.

1223
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: And speaking of rookie wide receivers, Jake, you might have

1224
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: your eyes on one as well.

1225
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, just as long as they leave them alone. Antonio Williams, since,

1226
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 5: like the Josh Downs argument, the number two on the commanders,

1227
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 5: who does what needs to be done next to Terry

1228
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 5: McLaurin perfectly in this offense. But I'll even give you

1229
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 5: a bonus for a full team. Every single Raiders wide

1230
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 5: receiver is worth taking a flyer on at their cost

1231
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 5: right now, if not a little bit more. And they

1232
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 5: signed Jalen Naylor, maybe we get Jack bash who got

1233
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 5: a lot of hype last year. So I just even Thornton.

1234
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 5: They just take shots here because they're all super discounted

1235
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 5: because nobody wants any of them, And like if the

1236
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 5: quarterback play is even mid level and then Mendoza, whatever

1237
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 5: it might be, it's just why not because you're there lower.

1238
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 5: They're essentially your last pick at this point, all of them,

1239
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 5: but the bigger point being Antonio Williams, because Antonio Williams,

1240
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 5: as long as they leave them alone again, there's still

1241
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 5: time Stefan Diggs Iyke trade whatever it might be. But

1242
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 5: if Antonio Williams enters Week one as the number two,

1243
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 5: you're talking about one hundred hundred and ten targets from

1244
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 5: the number two that is just buried right now.

1245
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: Well, and this is a guy who every time kid

1246
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: Clubnick target and whether it's in twenty twenty five, a

1247
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: down season for the Tigers, or twenty twenty four where

1248
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: we really saw Antonio Williams breakout, you know, club Nick

1249
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: had good things happened to him went when he targeted him.

1250
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: So I think Jane Daniel is a guy who wants

1251
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: to get the ball out of his hand, maybe a

1252
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: little bit earlier this season, avoids some of those big hits.

1253
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: I think Williams could be a great target for him.

1254
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: And I completely sign off on part of the Raiders

1255
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 1: analysis there, like my highest player above ECR right now,

1256
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: Jack Besh, I have fifty four overall at the wide

1257
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: receiver position, forty seven spots above ECR. I think there's

1258
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: a chance ericson that this guy is Clint Kubiak's version

1259
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: of JSN Right. This is a guy he can move

1260
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: all over the field, and if he wanted to go

1261
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: get a new X wide receiver, he could have done that.

1262
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 2: He had the chance to go get s Raw, he had.

1263
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: The chance to get Jakobe Lane, all these wide receivers

1264
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: that were falling into Day three of the draft.

1265
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 2: He didn't care. He was sticking with his boy Jack Besh.

1266
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: So I think Besh another guy who hardworking kid, comes

1267
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: from a little bit of a tragedy happened in his

1268
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: life right before the Senior Bowl a year ago with

1269
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 1: his brother losing his life down there in New Orleans.

1270
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: I think him and Fernando Mendoza. That's the breakfast table.

1271
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: It's Mendoza, it's Besh, and is Brock Bauers. Baby, So

1272
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm all in on Jack Bash. He's the Cooper Cup

1273
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: here of Las Vegas.

1274
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 2: What do you think?

1275
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 3: I can't believe you, guys neglected to mention Trey Tucker,

1276
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: who had a thirty point game last year for the Raiders.

1277
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 5: Okay, you can predict when that's gonna happen again.

1278
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: All right, folks, Well that's gonna do it for us

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