WEBVTT - The First Songs

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<v Speaker 1>From how Stuff Works dot com. This is the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>of Life. Welcome to the Stuff of Life. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Julie Douglas. Imagine yourself as a newly hatched cicada, living

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<v Speaker 1>deep in the soil and the vast crisscrossing tree roots.

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<v Speaker 1>You drain the network of tree sap until you become

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<v Speaker 1>plumper and plumper, and each year that passes, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>mounting sense that one day the temperature will be just

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<v Speaker 1>so and you will know it's time to dig your

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<v Speaker 1>way to the surface. For seventeen years, you toil under

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<v Speaker 1>the earth for one reason, and one reason only, to

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<v Speaker 1>come to the surface and mate to find the one

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<v Speaker 1>who will respond to your finely tuned notes, the one

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<v Speaker 1>who will make her way through a thicket of a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand other songs to you and only you. In this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>we turned to nature, to the songs that are all

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<v Speaker 1>around us. We take a trip to Bernbank Museum in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia for the exhibit Wild Music, and we eavesdrop on

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<v Speaker 1>humans in animals in communication. The High Elephant Orchestra to

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<v Speaker 1>me is a perfect example of non music being built

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<v Speaker 1>as music, and we talked to John P. S Waddle

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<v Speaker 1>about his study on the Eastern bluebirds, birdsong increasingly smothered

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<v Speaker 1>by noise pollution. I try to see the world as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I can through the senses of the animals

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<v Speaker 1>that I study, and that's largely birds. So I think about, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how are the birds being affected by this at this time?

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<v Speaker 1>But first human bird song? That's rus song from the

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<v Speaker 1>movie The Hunger Games, a four note tune, at times

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<v Speaker 1>signaling goodbye to loved ones and at others showing support

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<v Speaker 1>for the revolution. But this is a fictional whistle. On

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<v Speaker 1>the coast of Turkey, in the small mountain village of Kaskoy,

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<v Speaker 1>people use bird like whistles to communicate across steep hills.

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<v Speaker 1>The following whistle conversation is addressed to a man named

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<v Speaker 1>yak Up, and it's about how his tea is ready

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<v Speaker 1>and his sister will be home soon. He replies that

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<v Speaker 1>he's cutting hay and will be there in a moment. Amazingly,

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<v Speaker 1>these whistles, sprinkled among similar sounding bird calls, allow for

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<v Speaker 1>nuanced information to be transmitted. It's pure bio mimicry. Humans

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<v Speaker 1>impersonating nature, and while we move further and further away

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<v Speaker 1>from nature as a model to emulate. We can find

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<v Speaker 1>its auditory influence everywhere, even in horror movies. Daniel Bloomstein,

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<v Speaker 1>an expert in animal distress calls, made this connection in

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<v Speaker 1>his study, finding that nonlinear sounds like the blown out

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<v Speaker 1>vocalizations of an animal scream elicit a biologically ingreamed response

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<v Speaker 1>to them from us, and that horror movies often weave

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<v Speaker 1>animal screams into their soundtracks. That's the distress call of

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<v Speaker 1>the baby marmoset a large ground squirrel. It shares a

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<v Speaker 1>similarity with an iconic moment in a certain movie. These

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<v Speaker 1>are manic pieces of noise, effective tools for manipulating our

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<v Speaker 1>fear at a primal level. Raising the hackles of our

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<v Speaker 1>alarm systems that were deeply rooted symbolically and otherwise with

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<v Speaker 1>the sounds of nature. Is also evident in the exhibit

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<v Speaker 1>Wild Music at firm Bank Museum. When you enter the

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<v Speaker 1>Wild Music exhibit, you're met with a siren call from

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean. That's the mink at whale. We used to

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<v Speaker 1>think of the ocean as containing vast silence, but underwater

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<v Speaker 1>microphones called hydrophones have revealed a world of sound, snapping shrimp, farting, fish,

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<v Speaker 1>underwater earthquakes, and of course other worldly whale songs. But

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<v Speaker 1>that we identify these tones as songs in the first

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<v Speaker 1>place is a thorny issue, as the exhibit explores through

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<v Speaker 1>three different perspectives. The first is from Steve Nowiki, the

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<v Speaker 1>dean of Natural Sciences at Duke University and a longtime

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<v Speaker 1>student of bird song. I think the question what is

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<v Speaker 1>music is something that we all have to answer for ourselves,

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<v Speaker 1>because the word music is referring to an aesthetic ideal.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of us might define that quite narrowly. If we

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<v Speaker 1>were interested only in, say, classical music, then we'd throw

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<v Speaker 1>out Stravinsky and and certainly John Cage modern rap in

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of other popular music. Others of us

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<v Speaker 1>would define music is anything that triggers our own personal

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<v Speaker 1>aesthetic response. I listen to bird songs a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>I consider that a kind of natural music, or a

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<v Speaker 1>wild music. I'm willing to put the word wild or

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<v Speaker 1>natural in front of that, because I understand that musicians

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<v Speaker 1>would maybe take exception to broadening it that much. But

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm out in a marsh at dawn and the

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<v Speaker 1>sun is just rising, the world around me is filled

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<v Speaker 1>with a symphony of sounds, and that marsh Nowiki is

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<v Speaker 1>picking out a melody, and in that melody emotion, it

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<v Speaker 1>all comes together for me in a very esthetically overwhelming package,

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<v Speaker 1>and I consider that a kind of natural music. It

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<v Speaker 1>gives me a kind of emotional response that is in

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<v Speaker 1>the same vein as the response I might get from

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<v Speaker 1>listening to Beethoven's Ode for Joy. Nowiki also points out

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<v Speaker 1>that while most people would consider bird song as musical,

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<v Speaker 1>not all would say that it is actually music. Something

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<v Speaker 1>musicologist Elizabeth Tolbert of Johns Hopkins University isolates in the

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<v Speaker 1>Thai Elephant Orchestra on the elephants, if I had been

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<v Speaker 1>trained to play, I guess or at least make sounds

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<v Speaker 1>with Thai traditional instruments. And when you hear it not

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that it's elephants making the music, it sounds one way.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you hear it knowing that it is elephants

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<v Speaker 1>making this music, it sounds another way. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that when you hear it within the expectation of it

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<v Speaker 1>being music, in a way, it is music at that

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<v Speaker 1>point because a human has recorded it and presented it

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<v Speaker 1>as music. But if you think of it in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of what the elephants are trying to do. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>music in that sense, And I think this shows you

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<v Speaker 1>how impossible it is to hear a sound. Just as

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<v Speaker 1>pure sound, there's always some sort of interpretation going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the background. Tuna McIntyre, a Central Yupick Eskimo artist,

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<v Speaker 1>echoes this idea that it comes down to us as

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<v Speaker 1>the interpreters. Music is a search. In my estimation, what

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying to say is it's a search for emotion.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why from ancient times we call it yokun. The

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<v Speaker 1>reason for looking or searching a duck is the act

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<v Speaker 1>of singing. It essentially means you dawn on your search

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<v Speaker 1>your music. You put it on, almost like a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of clothing. So do animals truly make music? For Tolbert,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not likely these sounds can be interpreted as if

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<v Speaker 1>they were made by people or made by some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of supernatural beings that have human like intentions and thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>But we shouldn't attribute that kind of thought process to

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<v Speaker 1>a bird that is making these sounds. But for McIntyre,

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<v Speaker 1>animal song and our interpretation of it are one and

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<v Speaker 1>the same. Well, take the raven. The raven is one

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<v Speaker 1>of our most important birds in our ancient and even

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<v Speaker 1>today's mythology, and we sing his songs, songs that are

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<v Speaker 1>born of him. We vocalize and we sing some other

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<v Speaker 1>humans and understand what he's singing about. Chicken dah, a

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<v Speaker 1>chicken dah, A chicken kicking chick. That's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>little diddies that we sing of the raven when he's

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<v Speaker 1>jumping about and you know, just being sure of himself

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<v Speaker 1>and picking little leaves or grass from the ground. When

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<v Speaker 1>animals sing, they aspire through our abilities to interpret music, song,

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<v Speaker 1>or dance. In essence, they sing through us. We become

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<v Speaker 1>the interpreters. We become the vehicle of these aspirations for

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<v Speaker 1>the animal kingdom. It's almost like we're doing this in

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<v Speaker 1>concert together, and after all, we all exist in the

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<v Speaker 1>universe together. It's impossible to know if animals have the

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<v Speaker 1>same kind of search for emotional meaning and song that

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<v Speaker 1>we do, but it is possible to demonstrate that they

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<v Speaker 1>have a very visceral response to these melodies. You can

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<v Speaker 1>show that a female birds reproductive system will change when

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<v Speaker 1>she hears a male birds song. It actually stimulates her

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<v Speaker 1>reproductive system, It changes her hormonal profile and will lead

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<v Speaker 1>her to become more likely to build a nest and

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<v Speaker 1>lay eggs and so forth. You can show that um,

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<v Speaker 1>a male song sparrow, for example, that here's another song,

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<v Speaker 1>Sparrow's song, well within a few minutes have a higher

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<v Speaker 1>level of testosterone in its bloodstream and will become correspondingly

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<v Speaker 1>more agressive. So those are different kinds of responses than

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<v Speaker 1>the responses that I would feel, say, to a Beethoven symphony,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I hope my testosterone level doesn't rise in

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<v Speaker 1>response to, say, arousing the scared. So these discussions about

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<v Speaker 1>music and animals and the way we view the matter

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<v Speaker 1>because behind these songs are warnings, invitations, the buzzing of life.

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<v Speaker 1>But this buzzing, this background to our city parks, are

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<v Speaker 1>streets in our backyards is changing. We're seeing extinctions accelerate

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<v Speaker 1>at a very rapid pace, and geologists telling us that

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<v Speaker 1>the rate of extinction currently is perhaps even outside the

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<v Speaker 1>rate of any mass extinction event the planets ever experienced.

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<v Speaker 1>What people are going to experience in terms of their

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<v Speaker 1>own sort of connections with nature are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>fundamentally different than when I was a That's John Peace Waddle,

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<v Speaker 1>a professor at the College of William and Mary, a

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<v Speaker 1>biologist who studies bird communication. I was one of those

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<v Speaker 1>kids who, from a very young age actually knew what

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to do. Even as a six seven eight

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<v Speaker 1>year old, I was fascinated by animals. On his way

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<v Speaker 1>to elementary school, Swallowwood passed by the house of Sir

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<v Speaker 1>David Attenborough. He was one of my heroes just from

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<v Speaker 1>a very young age, and I grew up watching his

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<v Speaker 1>programs all the time, and I just became fascinated by

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<v Speaker 1>what animals do. To persuade females that come close and

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<v Speaker 1>admire his poos, he sings the most complex song he

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<v Speaker 1>can manage, and he does that by copying the songs

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<v Speaker 1>of all the other birds he has around him, such

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<v Speaker 1>as the Kukamara. Birds aren't just sensitive to the noises

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<v Speaker 1>around them, but to the changing conditions as well, so

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<v Speaker 1>much so that we have the term canary in a

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<v Speaker 1>coal mine to describe their ability to suss out danger

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<v Speaker 1>before humans do. Birds are certainly sent an alls for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ecological change because birds are very dynamic

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<v Speaker 1>within a lot of ecosystems. They are both prey and

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<v Speaker 1>predators within a lot of ecosystems, and so if something

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<v Speaker 1>happens within that environment, birds are often a fairly sensitive

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<v Speaker 1>indicator of something going wrong, and we've seen shifts in

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<v Speaker 1>bird populations substantially. Just in the last couple of decades.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been studies about birds altering the way they

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<v Speaker 1>sing a relative to their environment. For instance, birds in

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<v Speaker 1>the cities sing differently than birds in the country because

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<v Speaker 1>of background noise. But Swallow and his colleagues wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>know how this was affecting the bird's behaviors, and they

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<v Speaker 1>did this by studying eastern bluebirds and exposing them to

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<v Speaker 1>different noise levels. Not only did they find that the

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<v Speaker 1>birds could definitely adjust their songs, but in some instances,

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<v Speaker 1>the birds had to shout to be heard. Birds can

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<v Speaker 1>change the way they saying very quickly and very dynamically,

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<v Speaker 1>so really just as humans do. If you've found yourself

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<v Speaker 1>in a noisy situation, you start shouting, but as you shout,

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<v Speaker 1>the pitch of your voice also goes up, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what bluebirds do as well. In the study, the

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<v Speaker 1>implications of sound pollution are starkly evident in the noisest

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<v Speaker 1>situations among the birds that we studied. The birds who

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to breed in the noises conditions have far

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<v Speaker 1>fewer babies than the birds that were breeding in the

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<v Speaker 1>quieter conditions, even though they were changing their songs, so

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<v Speaker 1>that comes at a cost. They're producing fewer babies, and

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<v Speaker 1>so there would be a fitness deficit for living in

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<v Speaker 1>those noisiest conditions. Okay, to bring it down human terms,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine trying to settle down and have a family all

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<v Speaker 1>in one night. Had allowed bar where you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>shout over the music to make a connection. Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>humans can leave the bar and seek the refuge of

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<v Speaker 1>our apartments. Bird habitats are the bar. There's no escaping

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<v Speaker 1>the thumping noise. And it's worth noting that in the study,

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<v Speaker 1>Swaddle in his colleagues weren't even exposing the birds to

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<v Speaker 1>the worst of noise pollution. The noises that we recorded

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<v Speaker 1>here in the context of what the bluebirds had to

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<v Speaker 1>sing over, were nowhere near as loud as construction or

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<v Speaker 1>a chainsaw. This is largely road traffic, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>a fair distance from the roads to as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is more akin to say the sound of a

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<v Speaker 1>washing machine while you're in the room next door, or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. It's not a really loud song. Perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the sound that's kind of noise that you

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<v Speaker 1>might experience if someone has the TV on and you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to have a conversation. Okay, so the bird population decreases,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the harm Because the birds are connected to what

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<v Speaker 1>eats them and what they eat, and they also disperse seeds,

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<v Speaker 1>it also changes lots of other parts of the ecosystem

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<v Speaker 1>as well. To the point of the even changes the

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<v Speaker 1>plants that are in the area, because the birds interact

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<v Speaker 1>with the plants, either by spreading their seeds or by

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<v Speaker 1>eating things that eat the plants, and so on. So

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<v Speaker 1>the effects of noise on conservation biology are really quite

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<v Speaker 1>profound and quite unexpected to most people who just think

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<v Speaker 1>it might be a nuisance, But it's really detrimentally affecting

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<v Speaker 1>lots of different types of organisms. Swaddle study, which is

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<v Speaker 1>just a sliver of an example of all the ways

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<v Speaker 1>human activity is altering nature, demonstrate something called the cascade effect.

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<v Speaker 1>The reduction of one species can have dreadful effects that

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<v Speaker 1>spiral out and affect other animals and even the landscape itself.

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<v Speaker 1>These animals and biodiversity is important to us as a society,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're actually losing something substantial by losing biodiversity, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's another part of this whole argument about why people

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<v Speaker 1>should be more concerned about nature, more connected to nature.

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<v Speaker 1>Nature gave us the first songs, the patterns and melodies

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<v Speaker 1>that we replicate in instruments and our own voices. The

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<v Speaker 1>first songs that transcended the limits of a spoken word language,

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<v Speaker 1>giving us the ability to communicate powerful emotions immediately, The

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<v Speaker 1>first songs that gave people a sense of unity, and

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<v Speaker 1>the first songs we used as a basis for our

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<v Speaker 1>own ritual and social behaviors, including courtship. The question is

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<v Speaker 1>whether these first songs will persist or whether they'll continue

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<v Speaker 1>to recede into the background of our own noise. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to Firm Bank Museum, which is currently exhibiting Wild Music.

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<v Speaker 1>Wild Music is a production of the Association of Science

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<v Speaker 1>Technology Centers, the Science Museum of Minnesota, and the University

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<v Speaker 1>of North Carolina at Greensboro School of Music, with major

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<v Speaker 1>funding from the National Science Foundation and additional support from

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<v Speaker 1>the Harmon International and ec Foundation of America. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>to John Swaddle for talking to us about his work

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<v Speaker 1>with Eastern bluebirds. The Stuff of Life is written and

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<v Speaker 1>co produced by me Julie Douglas. Original music and sound

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<v Speaker 1>design is by co producer Noel Brown. Editorial oversight is

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<v Speaker 1>provided by Head of production Jerry Rowland. In the next episode,

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<v Speaker 1>which wraps up season one of the Stuff of Life,

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<v Speaker 1>we look at how life is just a game, gets

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<v Speaker 1>down to defining who you are, right and like gamification

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<v Speaker 1>gives you metrics to help you to define who you are,

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<v Speaker 1>and we like to think that based on merit, that's

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<v Speaker 1>how we accelerate and level up. If you like what

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