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Speaker 1: The Pal Podcast Pal, Hey Pal with Jared and dab Dave?
Speaker 1: Can you chew quieter? Oh gosh, here you go again.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what that means. Okay, so
Speaker 1: here we go. We have got a very unique episode.
Speaker 1: We're doing very unique, very unique. We have our very
Speaker 1: first in in studio Yes ever, yes, okay, we're stopping
Speaker 1: for ever. We're making history. We're making history with that. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to that in a second. We've got
Speaker 1: our chip everyone's eating Chipotle. Our sponsor we've got we
Speaker 1: were gonna try to get a sponsor. I think like
Speaker 1: that would be really cool. Thank you, Ken. That's our guests.
Speaker 1: We're gonna introduce him in a second. Okay, we've got
Speaker 1: our Chipotle bag. This is gonna be our first full
Speaker 1: visual in studio episodes. You can watch this online. Kyle,
Speaker 1: is that true? This is true? Okay? You just you
Speaker 1: just corroborated. You've got Chipotle and then also Dave, as
Speaker 1: you can see over there in the corner right, I's
Speaker 1: got my own personal bodyguard. Yes, And why do you
Speaker 1: why does someone with no credits need to bodyward? Well,
Speaker 1: actually our guest key in which again we'll introduce it
Speaker 1: a second. He's very familiar with my credits. Can you
Speaker 1: can you tell everybody a couple of my credits? Well,
Speaker 1: remember Jared bushes me off and he'll, you know, throw
Speaker 1: one of my credits that I might not be too
Speaker 1: proud about. I'll just text him two words in the
Speaker 1: first word is hoodie and the second word is guy.
Speaker 1: And if you go on IMDb you can find Jared
Speaker 1: Einson playing hoodie. Guy is kind of his m O.
Speaker 1: It's my m O. And not only that waiter number one,
Speaker 1: thank you Keen for that. But Dave, now do you
Speaker 1: see why? Do you see why I need bodyguard? Dave said,
Speaker 1: this is a couple of weeks ago when you brought
Speaker 1: your bodyguard. It's because you're such an asshole with people
Speaker 1: that there's a possibility that you're you were wearing a
Speaker 1: hoodie and that Lindsay Lohan one to well, whatever the reason,
Speaker 1: it is, b A B A you got me right,
Speaker 1: He's on it. He doesn't wait for at all. We've
Speaker 1: got Chipotle going, We've got Keyan Johnson in the studio,
Speaker 1: all right, so here here we go. We're just gonna
Speaker 1: go straight into it. Let's get into it. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I'm excited about our first guest. I'm very by the
Speaker 1: way you can look into that, Dave. I have to
Speaker 1: teach Dave the ins and out. See, if you were
Speaker 1: a hoodie guy, you would have already known the in
Speaker 1: set that you don't. I was Driveway player number one
Speaker 1: in basketball, so that is very true. Okay, So we're excited.
Speaker 1: We want to let all the hay Power listeners know
Speaker 1: a little bit about you, Kei. And so our next
Speaker 1: guest has start in big blockbuster movies like Alita, Battle
Speaker 1: Angel for James Cameron. He has appeared devo on hit
Speaker 1: TV shows I Think, what is It? Nashville Nashville love
Speaker 1: that show that is Dave's favorite. He called me last
Speaker 1: night Keian just to like be like dude, Keen and
Speaker 1: Nashville just so awesome. I love it. I love it,
Speaker 1: and he killed it, he really does. But listen, here
Speaker 1: is why we are here. This kid has been on
Speaker 1: absolute fire. He stars in Cutthroat City, which has gone
Speaker 1: to the number one spot on Netflix. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: starring opposite people like t I Ethan Hawk, Wesley Snipes,
Speaker 1: Terrence Howard to Meet your Ship Junior Denzel Whittaker. I
Speaker 1: know we could go on and on, and Hulu released
Speaker 1: his movie The Ultimate Playlist of Noise, which has gotten incredible,
Speaker 1: incredible reviews. My Bodyguard included and Kyle Tequila. Let's big,
Speaker 1: have a big just let's I'm okay My Bodyguard included
Speaker 1: Kyle Tequila. Sometimes you get a second take for a
Speaker 1: guy take ad Bye, um, let's give a big round
Speaker 1: of applause. Yeah, I just dropped my first piece. It's okay,
Speaker 1: It's okay, we'll have uh no, no, actually it's not okay.
Speaker 1: Don't do that again. All right. So, Kian, this is
Speaker 1: while you're eating, while everyone is eating, This is what
Speaker 1: we wanted to dive in right away and talk to
Speaker 1: you about. Dave and I, uh off offline, we've argued
Speaker 1: a little bit about what is the difference between an
Speaker 1: individual kind of sport and a team sport? Right correct,
Speaker 1: And so we talked about football a bunch. I mean, Dave,
Speaker 1: tell her what you think is an individual I do,
Speaker 1: but tell everybody why you think is a team sport.
Speaker 1: So I can take a bottom of my taco sponsored
Speaker 1: well the perfect example of why it's a team sport
Speaker 1: and the playoffs. This last weekend the Chiefs game, Travis Kelsey,
Speaker 1: who's a tight end start tight end for the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: made an incredible block that allowed one of their wide
Speaker 1: receivers to make like a fifty seven yard game. So
Speaker 1: had Travis not done that, it's it's a team. You
Speaker 1: need the team to come together to make those special
Speaker 1: plays happen. So, in my opinion, football as a team
Speaker 1: sport all the way, Well, I think it's an individual
Speaker 1: I won't get into it right now. I want to
Speaker 1: hear from our guests, But do you think that acting
Speaker 1: when you're on set, are you finding it's more of
Speaker 1: an individual um sport so to speak, where you have
Speaker 1: to like make sure you're on point and it's all
Speaker 1: about you, know you, and then everyone else needs not
Speaker 1: all about you in a vain way, but like you know,
Speaker 1: you have to do your job and you have to
Speaker 1: then make sure everyone else does their job, you know, individualistically,
Speaker 1: or do you think that it's more of a team sport. Um,
Speaker 1: we're hitting you with the herd, the hard hitter is
Speaker 1: right away. Well, I don't think I'm at the place
Speaker 1: in my career where I gonna make that decision. Um,
Speaker 1: so I just kind of go on and I kind
Speaker 1: of I see how you just kind of see what
Speaker 1: it is if it feels like everyone's kind of I
Speaker 1: think it just depends on if everyone's really excited about
Speaker 1: the project, then it feels like a team effort. And
Speaker 1: then if you know you can tell people are like
Speaker 1: super not down with the project, it's obviously then you
Speaker 1: just kind of have to go by yourself and just
Speaker 1: you know, give your best performance in whatever field you know,
Speaker 1: with your cinematographer, the director, or an actor. I think
Speaker 1: that if you're feeling like everyone's like, you know, not
Speaker 1: there as a team, you know, that's more of a
Speaker 1: moral thing, so you so you do think so then
Speaker 1: it's more of like a you think that people should
Speaker 1: show up to set though, and it should be a
Speaker 1: team sport because in my opinion, I just think, like,
Speaker 1: you know, look, I've I've made a movie with you,
Speaker 1: Kyle and I both have made movies with you, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, and I just think that it's everyone has
Speaker 1: to individually. It feels like to me more do their
Speaker 1: job because you can't, so to speak in in like
Speaker 1: basketball terms, you know, you can have a guy come
Speaker 1: and set a pick for you. You can pick and roll.
Speaker 1: If you miss the shot, they can get the rebound.
Speaker 1: You know, they can have your back. They're playing offense
Speaker 1: or playing defense. And that's why you know side note,
Speaker 1: I didn't think that football is. You know, you can,
Speaker 1: you can, you can contribute always. But guess what Keyan
Speaker 1: Johnson can't do. Keenan Johnson can't show up to set
Speaker 1: give this unbelievable performance, but then the next scene that
Speaker 1: he's not in, like he can't then like, you know,
Speaker 1: pick up that actor slack. And I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: there's you know, it's your job too, but like that's
Speaker 1: why I feel like it's more well, it's like offense
Speaker 1: defense though, right it's like they're still sitting on the
Speaker 1: sidelines when the when the other team is defending. I
Speaker 1: think that's like, you know, that's that's why overall it's
Speaker 1: kind of like the coach or the director who kind
Speaker 1: of has to keep everyone in line and keep everyone
Speaker 1: excited to like make something really special. Um, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's Yeah, it comes down to that. It's
Speaker 1: like if it's like that, it should be a team.
Speaker 1: But that kind of that can degrade and that can
Speaker 1: he brings up a great point, though, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's on a film set. It's the director's job. I mean,
Speaker 1: the directors like a symphony conductor, right, and he's telling
Speaker 1: everyone how to do their parts and how to how
Speaker 1: to play their thing. And he's the one overseeing what
Speaker 1: the cinematographers doing, overseeing what the actors doing, making sure
Speaker 1: that hair and makeup is okay, making sure that continuity
Speaker 1: is okay. So it's very much of a team team
Speaker 1: after in my opinion, I mean, okay, I'll take I'll
Speaker 1: take the l on this one. If both of you
Speaker 1: think that it's a team sport, well, what about we
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you. You're just such an individual in
Speaker 1: your home, it's all about you all the time. What
Speaker 1: you know you feel body bodyguard? Bodyguard? Yeah, he agreed, Dave.
Speaker 1: Dave's Dave being dragged off the set right now, folks.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that the rest of the interview, I'm not concerned.
Speaker 1: I feel that the bodyguard might be on my side,
Speaker 1: and the bodyguard is getting getting paid handsomely. Um you know, so, well,
Speaker 1: what about what are you paying in fruit roll ups?
Speaker 1: Don't answer that? Um, what about what about the physicality?
Speaker 1: You know, on this show, we do we do a
Speaker 1: lot of parallels. We we like to try to you know, um,
Speaker 1: compare sports and the entertainment industry. And you know, Dave
Speaker 1: had a great, a great point of like you know,
Speaker 1: for those who don't know, Keian Keen comes from the
Speaker 1: h heavily from the dance world. Um, you grew up
Speaker 1: a dancer, and and we were wondering, you know about
Speaker 1: the different physicality or the or the you know, the
Speaker 1: likeness of the physicality aspect of being a dancer and
Speaker 1: having to get that sort of in shape and the
Speaker 1: balance that you have to center yourself, you know with
Speaker 1: and compared to, you know, with an athlete and what
Speaker 1: they kind of have to have to do. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean I think that the like the
Speaker 1: base level of just like body awareness that I kind
Speaker 1: of got from starting dancing at like five years old,
Speaker 1: I think that over time, when I did decide I
Speaker 1: wanted to start acting, just like like little stunt Choira
Speaker 1: feel like there's a fight scene, I felt like I
Speaker 1: could pick up that because it's just choreography at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's not an actual fight. So
Speaker 1: I felt like I could pick that up a lot
Speaker 1: faster because it felt like a dance So I felt
Speaker 1: like having that, you know, having that training uh beforehand,
Speaker 1: just in like also character development to like just and
Speaker 1: how your character walks and how you're um uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I think all of that, I have to think because
Speaker 1: of the early training that I had just in like
Speaker 1: you know, crack Field dance studios and all over Colorado.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of similarities too real quick
Speaker 1: by the way, Sorry, no, I think it's really cool
Speaker 1: because you know, I was telling Jared this last night
Speaker 1: that a lot of a lot of athletes, you know,
Speaker 1: at a certain point their training became taking dance classes,
Speaker 1: and especially on football and tennis, even because the footwork
Speaker 1: and the amount of dexterity it takes your working different
Speaker 1: muscles and just the awareness on the court or how
Speaker 1: it helps you on the football field. That was a big,
Speaker 1: big part of why a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: teams you know, have dance incorporate in some capacity. Um
Speaker 1: and especially like some of the greatest running accident ever
Speaker 1: played in the NFL, A lot of them trained as
Speaker 1: dancers as well. Yeah, exactly, So I think it's it's
Speaker 1: really really cool, and I think you brought up a
Speaker 1: good point that you know, there's certain things that you
Speaker 1: learn doing that, especially with discipline and how your body works,
Speaker 1: and you know, movements and things that can translate very
Speaker 1: well to film. So I think that's really cool. What
Speaker 1: about the weights of it all, Like where did you
Speaker 1: did you have to lift a lot of weights like
Speaker 1: to be a dancer or did you feel like you did,
Speaker 1: because obviously athletes usually feel like we have to lift weights.
Speaker 1: You know, there's definitely there's there's no um. It's more
Speaker 1: about flexibility and those type of things, right, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you gain you gain different muscles from I mean the
Speaker 1: muscles you gain from ballet, Like it's all body strength
Speaker 1: that lifting your arms and having just like complete control,
Speaker 1: like just small movements like that. Really, but nothing is
Speaker 1: sort of like you know, you never see any dancers
Speaker 1: trying to like get gains, but not trying to like
Speaker 1: yoke up for the next dance competition. Right. Well, what's
Speaker 1: what's interesting, Dave, is actually nowadays I'll bet you it's
Speaker 1: less it's it's less about weights and more about like
Speaker 1: what Kien is saying about centering and balancing, like you know,
Speaker 1: because of the eurostep in basketball and like just all
Speaker 1: these guys that want to have more of a center balance,
Speaker 1: you know, James Harden, like all these guys, Um, they're
Speaker 1: probably all doing a lot more yoga, a lot more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty it is pretty interesting. Well, it's a more
Speaker 1: modern way of doing things. And obviously, like I said,
Speaker 1: like you know, the dance being and implemented with athletes
Speaker 1: goes back you know, probably twenty thirty years. But now
Speaker 1: yoga and and breathing and centering yourself because breathing is
Speaker 1: a big part of dance too, right, Being able to
Speaker 1: do the movements and be able to control your breath
Speaker 1: and have your breath not get away from you. It
Speaker 1: takes a lot of endurance. Yeah, And I think the
Speaker 1: other parallel is like there's also also takes a lot
Speaker 1: of endurance to be your partner in this ship. Well,
Speaker 1: at least I have endurance. And like you, we can
Speaker 1: call a few girls about that. Took a little by
Speaker 1: it and you just got devour. That's usually how it goes.
Speaker 1: Feel sorry for cutting right now, um are saying what
Speaker 1: were we saying? Don't go anywhere, Hey, Pam will be
Speaker 1: right back after a word for our sponsors. Yeah, there,
Speaker 1: I think there's a there's like a there's only a
Speaker 1: certain amount of years that you can, you know, be
Speaker 1: an athlete, and there's a certain amount of years that
Speaker 1: you can be a dancer too, And then I feel
Speaker 1: like as an athlete, you either after that you either
Speaker 1: start reporting right on ESPN or whatever like or then
Speaker 1: or you become part of the team in some capacity
Speaker 1: as a coach. And as a dancer you get to
Speaker 1: that level where you're getting older and um, you're kind
Speaker 1: of done also just learning other people's chography and taking
Speaker 1: other people's art and you know, flushing that out for them.
Speaker 1: So you you know, you see a lot of dancers
Speaker 1: who want to stay in the industry, they become choifers
Speaker 1: and then so it's kind of interesting that ever, you know,
Speaker 1: you only have a finite of time where you're at
Speaker 1: like your peak of dancing ability. Yeah, for sure. Well,
Speaker 1: and that's one of the things that I think is
Speaker 1: so incredible too, when you talk about like big performers,
Speaker 1: like obviously one of the greatest of all time, Michael Jackson,
Speaker 1: you know, for him to be able to sing and
Speaker 1: dance and perform at the same time. You know, obviously
Speaker 1: Chris Brown is as a modern version of that usher,
Speaker 1: But the amount of the shape that those guys have
Speaker 1: to be in to do that is pretty much the
Speaker 1: same as the shape that a world class athlete has
Speaker 1: to be in to be at the peak of their sports.
Speaker 1: Is also the shape that me and you will never
Speaker 1: be in because we're sponsored by Tripos. All right, So, UM,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to this one. Um, the what do
Speaker 1: you think makes a bigger impact or bigger friends? If
Speaker 1: you're the first pick in a draft or if you
Speaker 1: get picked in the second round. Like, if you're the
Speaker 1: first pick and everyone you know knows, like Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: right now, come out of Clemson into the NFL, everyone
Speaker 1: knows that Trouble Lawrence is gonna be the number one pick,
Speaker 1: and there's a certain amount of pressure that comes with that. Um,
Speaker 1: what do you think if you're the number one pick
Speaker 1: or if you're a second round pick that maybe not
Speaker 1: as much as expected of you. What do you think
Speaker 1: is harder to do to kind of prove yourself or
Speaker 1: to kind of live up to the expectation. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess you can take it into your own world, can
Speaker 1: you know? Because you've been a lead in movies? Uh,
Speaker 1: the ultimate playlist of Noise. I think you might be
Speaker 1: in like every single frame, right basically, well, but I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean you are, you know, but but you are
Speaker 1: the leader of the movie, and then you have other
Speaker 1: things where you're like a supporting right, So it's like
Speaker 1: it's like, what is that different perspective is it? Is
Speaker 1: it harder? Is it harder to be the lead? You know,
Speaker 1: like Dave was just talking about, you are the first
Speaker 1: pick in the draft, you know, and you know you
Speaker 1: have to work that much harder to stay the lead
Speaker 1: or is it harder to you know? Or what is
Speaker 1: the difference in and when you're like more of a
Speaker 1: supporting and you're like, gosh, I gotta prove something and
Speaker 1: do my job. So the next time I am the
Speaker 1: first round drop pick um. Yeah, I mean I don't
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know. I feel like there's
Speaker 1: sometimes like you know, you have you have these great
Speaker 1: like supporting characters, and like I mean, revolution revolutionary Road.
Speaker 1: I always think of like Michael Shannon. He's only in
Speaker 1: the movie for like five seconds, but he's the only
Speaker 1: scene I remember in the whole movie. So for for
Speaker 1: me personally, you don't remember Leonardo Dicavri on that movie.
Speaker 1: I'll continue, um No, but I thought that, like still,
Speaker 1: I think that that's just such a powerful it's just
Speaker 1: such a powerful moment um and he's only in it
Speaker 1: for such a short amount of time, so I don't
Speaker 1: really think. I don't know if it equates, because obviously
Speaker 1: you have um in and in like in like football
Speaker 1: or you know, in these sports, I feel like you
Speaker 1: have these these people who kind of like take the
Speaker 1: way of the team when they do something extraordinary, and
Speaker 1: I yeah, I mean I guess that you can kind
Speaker 1: of equate that too, like you know, these small characters
Speaker 1: in the film, because I feel like sometimes they can
Speaker 1: carry it and you think about them, well, you talk
Speaker 1: about people that like steal scenes. I mean, where you
Speaker 1: have those certain actors that they just they do a
Speaker 1: scene in a movie and they just steal it, you know,
Speaker 1: and they have that moment that everybody talks about and
Speaker 1: everybody brings up um And I think that's, you know,
Speaker 1: something that's really really cool. So sorry, don't worry about it. Cancel.
Speaker 1: We gotta for those that are listening, he's dropped a
Speaker 1: lot of sport on the ground. Well, Kean, what about
Speaker 1: what about for you. Just just take for you the
Speaker 1: example of a lead as opposed to a supporting you
Speaker 1: know which one which for you? Which one for you
Speaker 1: makes you want to work harder? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: If you're you were just in an ensemble and cutthroat city, right,
Speaker 1: does it does it? Uh? You know, we do kind
Speaker 1: of on the sports terms on this on the show.
Speaker 1: But does it does it make you uh leave that
Speaker 1: that movie set? And even if you had a great time, go, man,
Speaker 1: I just I want to go be a lead, you know?
Speaker 1: Or does it make you go I had a great
Speaker 1: time not having as many lines as I'm used to
Speaker 1: and not having the camera on me as many times
Speaker 1: as I'm used to, And I'm okay with that, you know,
Speaker 1: I know it's different for actors. But what does it
Speaker 1: make you feel like? I don't know if it's I
Speaker 1: don't know, if I'm as competitive, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know if that like that the competitiveness with sports of
Speaker 1: being like I want to be the best, the best.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that comes with acting because it's
Speaker 1: it says a subjective. It's so subjective. So I think
Speaker 1: that parton I think that everyone, Um, I think that
Speaker 1: I think that if uh, you know, some throughout my career,
Speaker 1: some people might think I'm the best actor they've ever seen,
Speaker 1: and some people might think that I'm absolute trash. But
Speaker 1: in sports, you can't say that certain people are absolute
Speaker 1: trash when they've obviously like there's yeah, there's statistics, there's
Speaker 1: no real so so you're not you're not as competitive.
Speaker 1: So when you when you do a supporting role, you
Speaker 1: don't leave the set going, man, the next one's got
Speaker 1: to be a lead. It's just what did you do
Speaker 1: with that supporting role? It's what it wasn't a Heath
Speaker 1: Ledger supporting in the Dark Night? But isn't that his movie?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like that, Like, I don't
Speaker 1: think it answers for sure, Yeah that is. I mean, that's,
Speaker 1: by the way, one of my favorite performances probably, I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of people. You still need to get
Speaker 1: that poster out of my ship. You don't know what
Speaker 1: you're talking about, bodyguard. He's talking back to me. Can
Speaker 1: we can we get rid of the guest Key and
Speaker 1: John Kyle store a few movie posters about seventeen bags
Speaker 1: in your house just for a couple of months, just
Speaker 1: for a couple of months. And by the way, I
Speaker 1: will say that that totally backfired on me. And the
Speaker 1: reason backfired is because it's been there, key And how
Speaker 1: long was it there for like two years? The bag
Speaker 1: with all photos in it, So it was in there
Speaker 1: for two years, right, So Keen's doing this great favorite.
Speaker 1: So the other like right before Christmas, I'm like begging him,
Speaker 1: can I just come over and get that bag and
Speaker 1: like look through it. He's on his knees and so
Speaker 1: I go over there, I get the bag and I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's literally my bag with all my pictures from like
Speaker 1: forever and they are just obviously because I'm a dummy,
Speaker 1: I kept them in a in a shed, right, they're
Speaker 1: all like destroyed of course, son, everything Like my first
Speaker 1: my first girlfriend, you just kept him in a you
Speaker 1: just kept him in like a sports bag. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm telling a story. It's on the shed.
Speaker 1: It's like, first of all, you justice because it's hot
Speaker 1: and like, right, but if you but if you just
Speaker 1: throw a bunch of or in a box. Even no
Speaker 1: one told me that guy, maybe you just throw a
Speaker 1: bunch of photos in a sports bag. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: that is that is true Okay, well, look this leak,
Speaker 1: this leads us to this leads us to our next thing.
Speaker 1: And I think, I think I know what you're gonna say,
Speaker 1: but we want to I think David, I c I
Speaker 1: for this that we want to argue about it. But
Speaker 1: it's it's a two part thing. You know, a lot
Speaker 1: of people in acting they talk about the process and
Speaker 1: the result, and they're they're very happy, you know with
Speaker 1: the process. Just getting movie made is like an accomplishment,
Speaker 1: you know, And as Kyle will attest to and and
Speaker 1: anybody who who knows me, I hate that, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, all that matters is the result. Was
Speaker 1: the movie good? Was the movie not? Did the movie
Speaker 1: make traction? Did the movie not? Right? Obviously we made
Speaker 1: cut Throat City together. Cut Throat City just went number one.
Speaker 1: I mean that's awesome. Like that means you know, the
Speaker 1: people have spoken. Those are results. Those are kind of
Speaker 1: like the stats in sports. Right, we can even say,
Speaker 1: like maybe we want a championship with that, you know,
Speaker 1: we summon the darkness. I think went to what did
Speaker 1: it go? Like top seven or top four or five
Speaker 1: on Netflix as well, which also Key and Johnson uh
Speaker 1: loves his character and that starring starring talking about stealing scenes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Alexandra Dadario, Oh yeah, that's right. You did about that.
Speaker 1: You called me and you said that you're like Key
Speaker 1: and just steals the scenes, and uh, you know, so
Speaker 1: those are results for you? What is it? What is
Speaker 1: it like? Because for me, it's like, I don't care
Speaker 1: about the process. Obviously I'm gonna put in all the
Speaker 1: work I need to in the process, but but I
Speaker 1: care about the result. I don't care about you know,
Speaker 1: how hard we practice, going back to basketball terms, how
Speaker 1: hard we played in the games. We didn't win the game.
Speaker 1: You don't win the game. So what are what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts? Um? I mean, personally, I hate it because
Speaker 1: I don't like because yeah, once again I'm at I'm
Speaker 1: not at a level in my career, Like I'm at
Speaker 1: the level of my career where I need these films
Speaker 1: to do really well so I can keep working. Um,
Speaker 1: So which part do you hate? Though you're saying You're
Speaker 1: saying I hate it that that it had like that
Speaker 1: it is kind of about whether it's number one or
Speaker 1: whether results. Yeah it is, you know, because because that
Speaker 1: means okay, then this person, we're gonna give this person
Speaker 1: another chance to make a movie. And for the longest,
Speaker 1: I mean up until like three years ago, no one
Speaker 1: hadn't even given me a chance to make one movie.
Speaker 1: So and then you met a producer who gave you
Speaker 1: a lot of chances. Right, Well, I lived in a
Speaker 1: producer's house and I did a lot of things for
Speaker 1: rent money. Well, you're saying in Hollywood, don't go anywhere, Hey,
Speaker 1: Pam will be right back after a word from our sponsors.
Speaker 1: Uh no. I yeah. So I think that I like,
Speaker 1: I like the process whatever, because it's like if I
Speaker 1: have I'm going to learn something on this, but like,
Speaker 1: hopefully I'm gonna do this for you know, the rest
Speaker 1: of my life. I'll be like, you know, what's his name,
Speaker 1: Christopher Palmer is Christopher Palmmer won his first oscar eighty
Speaker 1: something years old. Like that's amazing. He's been working his
Speaker 1: entire life and so unlike an athlete, like there's longevity
Speaker 1: to this and if you enjoy it, you can do
Speaker 1: it literally forever. Um. So, so is the process more important? Though?
Speaker 1: I learned? I learned something on every on every process,
Speaker 1: like I and I like being on set a lot,
Speaker 1: and I like, you know, seeing how shots are ultimately made,
Speaker 1: and then I remember that and then I see it
Speaker 1: how it's cut together, and I'm like, Okay, I see
Speaker 1: like what they needed, what what they took, and then
Speaker 1: what they ultimately needed in the end. I think also,
Speaker 1: he's a true artist. And and even if you know,
Speaker 1: if you guys look at his instagram, like the photographer
Speaker 1: that he does, the pictures that he takes and all
Speaker 1: that stuff, he's like, he's a true artist. So his
Speaker 1: perspective is gonna be a little bit different than your
Speaker 1: regular you know. That's why, hey, pal show we don't
Speaker 1: have any wrong answers, right, it's his opinion, your opinion.
Speaker 1: It's it's I just know that. Like, look, I've made
Speaker 1: movies with you, Kian, Uh, Kyle and I both actually
Speaker 1: and we've you know, we've made movies with with other people.
Speaker 1: And for me, uh and maybe it is just my
Speaker 1: competitive spirit and Dave, I would love for you to
Speaker 1: speak on this for a second, but for me, I
Speaker 1: don't care. Look, I remember me and you being on cutthroat, right,
Speaker 1: I will give everybody an example because it's just it's
Speaker 1: it's current right now, with it with it being out
Speaker 1: and doing really well. Me and you went down there.
Speaker 1: You got this incredible role right where you're like have
Speaker 1: to braid your hair and and man, you were so
Speaker 1: in character where you got down there. And I remember
Speaker 1: going to your hotel room for the first time and
Speaker 1: it was like it was like blackout, right, you covered
Speaker 1: all the mirrors. You did like all you're smiling right
Speaker 1: now because you probably were like, Jared, why are you
Speaker 1: telling you? Everyone is? But you know, look, hey, we
Speaker 1: we give people and a first inside look with Keyan
Speaker 1: Johnson here on the hay Pal podcast show. Okay, they
Speaker 1: get to know things that you won't tell other people.
Speaker 1: But so you covered your you covered your you know,
Speaker 1: your mirror and you you know, it was blackout and
Speaker 1: all this stuff. And I remember walking in the room
Speaker 1: and going, what the hell are you doing? I was like,
Speaker 1: what is going on? And you looked at me and
Speaker 1: you said, you know, look, I'm taking this very seriously.
Speaker 1: If I see myself in the mirror, I might see
Speaker 1: Keyan Johnson and I don't. And you didn't talk to
Speaker 1: the third person, but you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: you're like, I might I wanted to. Yeah, You're like,
Speaker 1: I might see myself and I don't. Want to see myself.
Speaker 1: I want to be you know, my my character right now,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to come out of that. And
Speaker 1: it was very method of you, and I love that, right,
Speaker 1: But if the movie the reason I tell the people
Speaker 1: that is you took it very seriously, you know, I
Speaker 1: took it very seriously. But if the movie is not
Speaker 1: good at the end of the day and it comes
Speaker 1: out and doesn't perform right, then I don't care that
Speaker 1: you did that. And and it's not that I don't
Speaker 1: care in a way of like you know, I don't
Speaker 1: care about you. I don't care about I don't think
Speaker 1: that I did my job. Then I don't think that
Speaker 1: you did your I think I could have done a
Speaker 1: better job with you. I think there's just so many
Speaker 1: other things that I can do. And I don't want
Speaker 1: the audience to be confused because because the movie business
Speaker 1: is different, you know, like you you can think it's
Speaker 1: good and I can think it's bad. But if it
Speaker 1: comes out to the masses and they think it's bad,
Speaker 1: then they win. And if they think it's good, then
Speaker 1: then yeah. But at the same time, like I've never
Speaker 1: been to New Orleans before, I'd never know I didn't
Speaker 1: know what second line was, Like, I like basically got
Speaker 1: paid to like see a completely different culture to live
Speaker 1: in the ninth ward understand what that was like, Like
Speaker 1: I don't give a ship if the movie like did
Speaker 1: nothing because I I mean, I guess you're the producer
Speaker 1: and you paid me to do that. So no, this
Speaker 1: is like perspective people, It's like from from me. It's
Speaker 1: like people see my performance, they'll like what I did
Speaker 1: in the movie, or they won't. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, it's like, yeah, I had like one
Speaker 1: of the most amazing experiences working with like uh rizk
Speaker 1: who I basically started dancing to his music when I
Speaker 1: was five six years old. Uh, I'm sure my uh
Speaker 1: you know, my parent mom got a pretty literally liberal um.
Speaker 1: But you know, it was just like it was like
Speaker 1: a pretty amazing dream. Good of the process, like everything
Speaker 1: of like being in that um, being in that city
Speaker 1: and learning about so many different Like that's that's the problem.
Speaker 1: Like if that's if you're talking about the process, not
Speaker 1: like where you get to go and like you know,
Speaker 1: we get to like go to like the coolest places
Speaker 1: and be on like weird sets and like I was
Speaker 1: in a I was in a weird strip club with
Speaker 1: like fake strippers were extras like doing it like it's
Speaker 1: just like you you're in a wacky world that you
Speaker 1: don't like. It's just it's it's it's weird, like it's
Speaker 1: it's you know, and we're it's I think that the
Speaker 1: process is is like, you know, who cares if anything else?
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's money. And
Speaker 1: I know that maybe from a producer's perspective, you think
Speaker 1: that you've done a good job if it hits that level,
Speaker 1: because that you're you're from that money. You're well half
Speaker 1: creative but half money side of like that, you're also
Speaker 1: thinking of that. I come in not thinking of that
Speaker 1: at all. Well, I also know that, look, we just
Speaker 1: had a number one together and that's really really cool
Speaker 1: and a baby. I don't care. Wait a minute, I
Speaker 1: don't care if it's number one, but I do care
Speaker 1: if like the masses out there or like this is
Speaker 1: a bad movie or a good movie. Yeah, but at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, don't you want to be
Speaker 1: proud of your work? And if you feel that you
Speaker 1: left it out all out on the field and you
Speaker 1: did the best that you could, aren't you proud of
Speaker 1: that whether you like it or he likes it, or
Speaker 1: he likes it or she likes it, because I feel
Speaker 1: like me and you've talked to him about this before,
Speaker 1: and you you care about the result, which is what
Speaker 1: I care about. Well, I care about the result. But
Speaker 1: there's a lot to be said for the process and
Speaker 1: having that experience, and like what can and said for
Speaker 1: like to be able to Resa, for example, he's a
Speaker 1: friend of a pal of ours, you know, that directed
Speaker 1: the film. To have that experience of having that person
Speaker 1: that most people think of as a musical artist first,
Speaker 1: they don't think of him as a director first, to
Speaker 1: be able to have that experience, like that's so freaking cool,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And and just to learn
Speaker 1: from that. So even if for him if the movie
Speaker 1: didn't do anything, you know, just to have that that
Speaker 1: moment in time that experiences is awesome. And I've been
Speaker 1: on sets of movies that we knew were gonna be
Speaker 1: huge successes. What were you doing? I've been on sets
Speaker 1: and um, you know, I've been on sets where you know,
Speaker 1: we didn't know if if a project was gonna do
Speaker 1: well or not, and it did. And again, it's it's
Speaker 1: all about being in the moment. And I think his
Speaker 1: answer it's a lot different Rikian because he's such, like
Speaker 1: I said, he's such an artist. He looks at things differently,
Speaker 1: so for him, it's a learning process. So like he said,
Speaker 1: whether or it succeeded or not wasn't really as important
Speaker 1: to him as having the experience. I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: if I was a studio executive, like I'd be like,
Speaker 1: it's not it's all about the it's all about the money.
Speaker 1: It's all about the results. And I feel like that's
Speaker 1: why it looks it's weird business be it's like half
Speaker 1: art half fight. Yeah, And it's strange because that's you
Speaker 1: hear about these like these low budget projects that end
Speaker 1: up blowing up, Like when Blair, Witch and Blair which
Speaker 1: came out. It turned the industry upside down because it
Speaker 1: cost X amount of dollars to make. It was like
Speaker 1: how much was it? And it did like millions? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it just completely flipped, you know, and those
Speaker 1: filmmakers they were just doing it for the love of
Speaker 1: the process. In the film. They didn't There's no way
Speaker 1: on earth they could have thought I was gonna do
Speaker 1: a billion dollars, you know, I'm not Look, I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to belittle the process, like I think you still
Speaker 1: have to enjoy. But I just think, you know, I
Speaker 1: think and and I feel like me and you are
Speaker 1: cut from the same cloth here, like when we come
Speaker 1: from the sports you know background, Dave, is that uh
Speaker 1: you know, I'll enjoy the process. But if I if
Speaker 1: I lost, I still lost, and I care a lot
Speaker 1: about I care more about that than enjoying the process. Um,
Speaker 1: for me, it's about results, yeah, I mean on the field,
Speaker 1: it's it's I feel I feel like you've gotten soft
Speaker 1: on me here, like I did. I think inspired me
Speaker 1: a little bit in a little We've got a movie
Speaker 1: star in our a pell studio and you've already gone
Speaker 1: soft to me, and he's he's wearing off and you
Speaker 1: I think he inspired me a little bit, just to
Speaker 1: look at it a little bit different. But again, I
Speaker 1: hope you just keep eating your chipoli so we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to hear from you again. Um, would be a
Speaker 1: pleasant surprise for everybody. But um, you know again obviously
Speaker 1: on the on the playing field, like you want to win, okay,
Speaker 1: like as a fan, all right, I do not want
Speaker 1: my seventies sixers to make it the NBA Finals and lose.
Speaker 1: I want them to win. That's the result that I want.
Speaker 1: And to be honest, I don't think I wanted to
Speaker 1: make the finals if they don't. Ken, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you for a second. I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: expose everyone. I'm chewing. Dave's trying to act like he
Speaker 1: doesn't care. This comes from a guy. When the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: Eagles made to the Super Bowl and after they won, Okay,
Speaker 1: he was easy crying. He was crying the guys. This
Speaker 1: is a true story. Tell everyone who you wrap the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl with Julius Irving, dor Dr Kevin Hart, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: who else? Jamie Fox? Jamie Fox? And he is in
Speaker 1: the middle in a row with these guys and they
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl and he he couldn't even move.
Speaker 1: He's sitting there going, oh my god. He just starts crying.
Speaker 1: And there's video, by the way, guys online if you
Speaker 1: go to Dave boss cost there is Instagram, there is Okay,
Speaker 1: Kyle's gonna put this least to but do do we
Speaker 1: also talk about the reason that I was so emotional.
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about that right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: because you're gonna feel bad, right it makes me, well,
Speaker 1: obviously makes me sad, no context, at the of the day,
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I do actually love
Speaker 1: you and care about you, even though I try to
Speaker 1: act like but yes, it is. It is sad. You
Speaker 1: can tell that, you know. It's not sad. It was
Speaker 1: just it was it was beautiful. I was I was
Speaker 1: crying out of joy because my team want but the
Speaker 1: beauty of my father passed away and Philly sports was
Speaker 1: like our thing. So having that moment to see our
Speaker 1: team win was like, I was overwhelmed. It was. It
Speaker 1: was awesome that that family connection. And that's one of
Speaker 1: the differences between I think sports and and and film
Speaker 1: is you know, in that moment, there's there's that connection
Speaker 1: of oh my god, our our our team did this.
Speaker 1: And you might have that in movies when you know,
Speaker 1: you win the Oscar or something like that, when you
Speaker 1: have that award. But again, our our genius guests put
Speaker 1: in perspective because it's all subjectives about it's all subjective.
Speaker 1: It's it's you know, some people, like he said, some
Speaker 1: people might love his performance and something and one thing,
Speaker 1: and they might think it sucks in another thing. So
Speaker 1: it's yeah, we have to believe. We have to believe
Speaker 1: that one out Kyle, just because um Kean never cusses
Speaker 1: and we want to keep the good boy image. I don't.
Speaker 1: So he's changing, Yeah, exactly, he's changing, right. You see,
Speaker 1: you inspired him inspired, you inspired him, he started cussing.
Speaker 1: So the last part of that question is, Dave and
Speaker 1: I love Tom Brady. We respect him so much. And
Speaker 1: Tom Brady obviously was a famous quote, but he was
Speaker 1: He was just quoted in saying this a couple of
Speaker 1: times that they're there. He was saying do or don't
Speaker 1: there is no trying. So obviously with that quote, you're
Speaker 1: going to say there is trying, right or well, yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's what I'm saying. I said it was a
Speaker 1: famous quote. No, no, that's what I'm saying. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying he's not no, no no, no, no, no, I said
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, I think we're in trouble here. They
Speaker 1: have all podcast because our producing he gave up no
Speaker 1: like so so it's cute. So there he is trying
Speaker 1: for you, right, Kim. Oh yeah, he's obviously speaking from
Speaker 1: like a sports perspective, right, not as a jedi guess
Speaker 1: has a little green guy. Alright, we're onto the next thing.
Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, hay Pam will be right back after
Speaker 1: a word from our sponsor. UM. In the NBA, when
Speaker 1: you make the All Star Game or even in the
Speaker 1: NFL or whatever all star games where you've been selected,
Speaker 1: you're one of the best in your sport. I performed
Speaker 1: at the All Star Game? Did you? Did you really?
Speaker 1: In Denver? Yeah? For the little we were called the
Speaker 1: little Busts. I shuk yumming and Shock's hand and everything.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Wait, can we get my mother used to be?
Speaker 1: I mean this is on camera like a little it's exactly.
Speaker 1: It's like I don't need to Yeah, so we're good
Speaker 1: at UM. So when an athlete makes it to the
Speaker 1: altar game, I feel like there's a moment where they
Speaker 1: take it all in. They take a deep breath and
Speaker 1: they look around them because it's all of the best,
Speaker 1: you know, a peers in their sport, and they have
Speaker 1: this moment where like maybe they don't say it out loud,
Speaker 1: they've made it right, like they've made it like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is cool. Being in a movie with Terrence Howard,
Speaker 1: t I Ethan Hawk Wesley Snipes. I mean that's so cool.
Speaker 1: Like we said, Issa Gonzalez, um to meet your ship Junior,
Speaker 1: all like Cat Graham, there was Shamik Moore. You know,
Speaker 1: there were so many people, all stars we should say.
Speaker 1: You know that was a big one, right And so
Speaker 1: was there ever a moment where you were on that
Speaker 1: set in New Orleans and you look around, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's like just five years ago you were, you were,
Speaker 1: you know, just making the move out to l A
Speaker 1: and all that, and like now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: do you have one of those moments where you're like
Speaker 1: I've made it or what what what sinks in for you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean there, I mean probably I'm not. I don't
Speaker 1: get like starstruck. But there's there's this like a mens
Speaker 1: respect act of like when I would when I the
Speaker 1: first time I saw Rizzo, the first time I saw
Speaker 1: Wesley or Terrence. It's just kind of this like immense
Speaker 1: respect of like they don't know like that they had
Speaker 1: an impact on you and whether whether and they and
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell them that. And I never
Speaker 1: told risk of that except for when I made him
Speaker 1: sign my thirty six Chambers Vinyl. I was like the
Speaker 1: weirdest fan. I came up to my director and I
Speaker 1: was like, can you sign my vinyl? Who are you?
Speaker 1: Just started? I was like I had corn rows? Remember
Speaker 1: I have regularly? U No, so uh yeah. There's like
Speaker 1: just so many moments like that where yeah, I felt
Speaker 1: just like so blessed to be amongst these people. And
Speaker 1: like then when they say action and then I get
Speaker 1: to like look at them and like we're like in character.
Speaker 1: It's like kind of this like fun thing where like
Speaker 1: in character together like putting this facade facade whatever that means.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to use the word facade,
Speaker 1: but we're like probably pretend with these people that I
Speaker 1: watched as a kid on the screen. I think it's
Speaker 1: just like pretty powerful. Yeah, it is cool to be
Speaker 1: a fan. I mean Dave, Dave gets a chance to
Speaker 1: be around a lot of actors of note and and
Speaker 1: I have to, and it is cool to be able to.
Speaker 1: I think it's you have to have that balance. I
Speaker 1: think we talked about this with Mark Cuban, you know,
Speaker 1: because where we were saying, like the reason that Mark
Speaker 1: Cuban is like the most beloved ownor and people just
Speaker 1: wanted is because he is a fan too, Like he
Speaker 1: loves his Mavericks, you know, so he has to do business,
Speaker 1: and but he also you know, loves them. And so
Speaker 1: I think it's cool when an actor like you gets
Speaker 1: to go on set and like you know, like you
Speaker 1: just said, when they say action, it's business right, But
Speaker 1: when they don't, it's like you take a deep breath
Speaker 1: and and you get to go like wow, like you know,
Speaker 1: but it's also cool. And I think he experiences to
Speaker 1: where you realize that these people are just human just
Speaker 1: like you are, you know what I mean, And there's
Speaker 1: really no difference, you know, except for the certain things
Speaker 1: that they've accomplished. But yeah, well the only yeah, the
Speaker 1: only thing say is that it that. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: like when you when you can see, you know what
Speaker 1: car they drive up in? Now an important they are, no,
Speaker 1: they like just because they have such experience and such knowledge,
Speaker 1: they just like throw out little stories here and there.
Speaker 1: Like I remember when I was doing my like first
Speaker 1: big film, which was Alida in Austin, there was one
Speaker 1: night where it was like seven hours or eight hours
Speaker 1: of shooting where we were really just capturing one shot.
Speaker 1: It was this really important shot and it was me
Speaker 1: Christoph Waltz and Jennifer Connelly like by a heater and
Speaker 1: we're just like freezing, freezing our asses off by this heater.
Speaker 1: And they were just talking about like there like their
Speaker 1: start in acting. They were kind of like talking to
Speaker 1: me a little bit about it. And then we're talking,
Speaker 1: you know, Jennifer was talking about her first set with
Speaker 1: David Bowie. Uh. Kristof was talking about, um, you know
Speaker 1: when when he started like in Germany and when he
Speaker 1: came to New York and worked with Lee Strassburg, and
Speaker 1: I trained Strasbourg the method. Uh um, when of my
Speaker 1: where am I thinking? Method? Um? When you were when
Speaker 1: you were studying what is it? You know? What is
Speaker 1: it called technique? Like I said, I studied the method
Speaker 1: technique And and Christof is talking about stories of working
Speaker 1: with the guy who created his technique. So so these
Speaker 1: these little things where he's talking about it like it's
Speaker 1: just like past stories, and I'm taking it in as
Speaker 1: like knowledge that I am like a forever And course
Speaker 1: I'm playing it cool and just acting like it's like
Speaker 1: he's saying nothing. But there's these things that all these people,
Speaker 1: because of their experience, they'll throw these little things out
Speaker 1: especially Rizza, like countless times where he would say things
Speaker 1: that we're just so powerful and you kind of keep forever.
Speaker 1: Now he's he's incredible when we talked to him, like
Speaker 1: there's things come out of his mouth and you're like, wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he's That was a cool That was a
Speaker 1: really cool episode before we get to the playoffs. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of super teams now in the NBA. UM.
Speaker 1: You know, people the stars teaming up with the other
Speaker 1: stars to try to win a championship. If you got
Speaker 1: to create your own super team, right, and you could
Speaker 1: team up with one actor and one actress, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe it's an older actor who gets to play your dad,
Speaker 1: and maybe the actresses opposite you, Like who would be
Speaker 1: your super team in a movie? Um, I'm just like anyone.
Speaker 1: But you're saying, like a certain specific age whatever, whatever,
Speaker 1: you get to create it. You get to create the
Speaker 1: super team just like these guys are doing. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean, whatever you would want, what would be what
Speaker 1: would that look like for you? I mean the first
Speaker 1: name that definitely comes might be like Anthony Hopkins, like
Speaker 1: a legend, So and what kind of a role would
Speaker 1: you see him in opposite you. I know that puts
Speaker 1: you on the spot. But I mean any anything, just anything, Yeah, yeah, Anthony,
Speaker 1: I would be playing the tree. Um, so who else
Speaker 1: would you pack in that movie? I mean it's like
Speaker 1: like Meryl Street, like you just go. I feel like
Speaker 1: when you, like, if I had like the choice to
Speaker 1: just yeah, you're shrugging, you you get to create yourself
Speaker 1: because yeah, but then but then, but then I'm thinking
Speaker 1: that it would look like one of those like Valentine's
Speaker 1: Day movies where it's like all the stars and you're
Speaker 1: like too many. So it's like you just choose one.
Speaker 1: It's about It's not it's about are we trying to
Speaker 1: get a number one movie here? I'm done with the
Speaker 1: number one movies. I get it. It's all about the process. No.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, Tom Hardy, Um, Christian Bale, oh yeah um.
Speaker 1: But those are a coupletis. You have to you have
Speaker 1: to build an actual super team for a movie here.
Speaker 1: So who are you gonna Because that was a good point.
Speaker 1: He even said, I don't want to make like a
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day because me and you've talked about this day.
Speaker 1: You go too hard and then there's not there's not
Speaker 1: enough to go around. Yeah, so so build it for us.
Speaker 1: It's you starring opposite Anthony Hopkins. Do you want to
Speaker 1: fill the rest of out with just talented unknowns or
Speaker 1: do you want to plug one more brilliant actor in
Speaker 1: there that you're gonna get to play opposite of? And
Speaker 1: who is it? I'm just like I have like maryl
Speaker 1: and Anthony be my parents. Okay, that is a good one.
Speaker 1: It's a great one. That's a pretty great dream team.
Speaker 1: Can we make that happen to It's possible. Anthony is
Speaker 1: one of I mean he's awesome. I mean, he's incredible.
Speaker 1: He's awesome in no. She she's amazing too. I mean
Speaker 1: every like, literally every part she's ever played, she's just
Speaker 1: like it's not acting. I mean, it's just such a strange.
Speaker 1: They're on such a different level. The u is it
Speaker 1: was it Sarkin's recent film that was on the boat
Speaker 1: The Queen Elizabeth. Yeah, have you seen that on SPO
Speaker 1: I mean just that it's just so it's such a
Speaker 1: simple film, but she is absolutely captivating in every It's
Speaker 1: every single moment that she's on the script. And it's
Speaker 1: not like one or two moments where you're like, wow,
Speaker 1: that was really interesting. It's every choice that she makes
Speaker 1: that and that's maybe it's like she's done it for soul.
Speaker 1: I mean when you're like, when you've not when even
Speaker 1: nominated for like fourteen oscars, I'm way maybe it's not
Speaker 1: even a choice anymore. Well, no, it's something that pilot.
Speaker 1: I've talked to actors that have been on set, like
Speaker 1: Samuel L. Jackson or Morgan Freeman or somebody like that,
Speaker 1: and they just said, when it's time for their scenes,
Speaker 1: it's just a different level. It's like there's a different
Speaker 1: energy in the on set, there's a different mood. And
Speaker 1: they said organically, it just raises their game without even
Speaker 1: wanting to, Like they don't make a conscious choice to
Speaker 1: raise their game. It's just by being in those people's presence.
Speaker 1: They sometimes they at the same time they get to
Speaker 1: read the best words written of that year. You know
Speaker 1: that goes with it too, Like sometimes you see like
Speaker 1: films with really good actors and the writing is just
Speaker 1: not quite there and it's a little awkward. Um, but
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel Mary could still kill it
Speaker 1: that she definitely can. Don't go anywhere. Hey, Pam will
Speaker 1: be right back after a word from our sponsors. Well,
Speaker 1: my friend Mr Key and Johnson, you have made it
Speaker 1: to the end of the hay Pal podcast show, so
Speaker 1: we have that means what has he made it to Dave, Well,
Speaker 1: he's made it to the playoffs. Playoffs, hey pal? Play
Speaker 1: playoff so Keian Cutthroat City. We won't give too much away,
Speaker 1: but it's basically, you know, a disaster happens and then
Speaker 1: it's about these four boys that you know, so these
Speaker 1: teams that are on a mission. Um, So what we
Speaker 1: decided to do for your playoffs where we took eight
Speaker 1: films that are sort of like that about teens on
Speaker 1: a mission. We always we always exclude the guests, uh,
Speaker 1: you know work, so we will not have any of
Speaker 1: your work in there. And we let you pick who's
Speaker 1: gonna advance. We let you pick because I would choose
Speaker 1: my work. Yeah, we let you pick he's gonna make
Speaker 1: it to the finals, and we let you pick who
Speaker 1: is going to be crown champion. So Mr Dave taken away. Alright,
Speaker 1: So playoffs seating, hey pal. The number one seed for
Speaker 1: this bracket is on a Mission Teams on a Mission
Speaker 1: Amazing film Number one super Bad versus the number eight seed,
Speaker 1: the Lost boys. That is a good that's a good
Speaker 1: matchup teens on a Michian Johnson who is advancing. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's only one advance. Yes, I mean, Kenneth, I'd say,
Speaker 1: I'd say, I mean, I'd say that they're Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: they're both incredible. But I just know every word of
Speaker 1: super Bad. The number one seed, alright, the number one
Speaker 1: seed holds court, it advances. Okay, so now we've got
Speaker 1: we don't look a little bit. I mean, I just
Speaker 1: I love super Bad. You got this, sister. So now
Speaker 1: we've got the two seed versus the seventh seed, which
Speaker 1: is clueless versus dazed and confused Johnson who is advancing.
Speaker 1: That's it, that's a good one. What were taste confus? Again? Well,
Speaker 1: I guess clueless is advancing and the post and confused
Speaker 1: is the big smiley face. Yea, So should we take
Speaker 1: that back? So then, or we'll cut that out? I
Speaker 1: know it out, but cut it out alright, So we're
Speaker 1: keeping that alright? Wait, so who advanced though clueless or confused?
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, it's just like i'd known that, you know,
Speaker 1: when you just can't think of we listen, we're all human,
Speaker 1: we have a blank every time. That's that's an every summer,
Speaker 1: every now, every shirt has blanks every time. Boy, do
Speaker 1: it to yourself. You can do this, I really do. Alright,
Speaker 1: Onto the next the next seating. Alright, the next seating.
Speaker 1: We have the number three, which I basically modeled my
Speaker 1: life after this movie. H Ferris Bueller's Day Off, you
Speaker 1: take every day versus the numbers six. Back to the
Speaker 1: Future like the franchise, No, like the cologne just the
Speaker 1: first film. Back to the Future versus Paris Bueller's Day Off.
Speaker 1: Teens on a mission. Well, the I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel like Back to the Future is like a team
Speaker 1: and it and is like fucked up, like weird old
Speaker 1: friend on a mission. It's not really teams. And I
Speaker 1: feel like the Paris Buelers. It's definitely too that it's
Speaker 1: just team. That's true teams all. I'm good with that.
Speaker 1: And the last seeding to get to the next round
Speaker 1: is the four verse five seed Mr Key and Johnson.
Speaker 1: The four seed comes in at none other than Greece
Speaker 1: and the five seed comes in at Breakfast Club. Who
Speaker 1: is advancing to the final four. Um, I feel pretty
Speaker 1: like about both of those. Oh, I like that, I
Speaker 1: like that. Do we just eliminate them. We just we
Speaker 1: just eliminate them. For all the others. I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, listen, I don't want to lose any
Speaker 1: fans listeners and the fans and the listeners opinion who
Speaker 1: built this list? Okay, So don't tweet at Pal, tweet
Speaker 1: at Keian Johnson. Don't. Wow, just gonna eliminate. He just
Speaker 1: got rid of them eliminating Breakfast Club. There does Breakfast
Speaker 1: Club doesn't do it for him. It doesn't do it.
Speaker 1: I had to read scenes from a Breakfast Club for
Speaker 1: a movie. Um, and he hated book book And because
Speaker 1: of the director didn't want me to read any of
Speaker 1: the scenes from the film. Wow. What character breakfast character? Um,
Speaker 1: it's a blond kid's name, uh Amelia Estevez. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like that long, that long monologue that he has. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, but how do you go in an audition
Speaker 1: with a monologue that's been already very much done before.
Speaker 1: Yeah you've seen. Yeah, I get that very interesting. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: we're eliminating both of them for the first time in
Speaker 1: the hay Pal Okay, Like you know, we've got the Dave,
Speaker 1: We've got the one seed versus the uh seventh seed,
Speaker 1: which is gonna be What a matchup. Wow, it's a
Speaker 1: great matchup. We have match super Bad at number one
Speaker 1: versus Days and Confused at number seven, which Keyan was
Speaker 1: the first time he heard that he was he was?
Speaker 1: He was? He might have been in character at least Stroburg,
Speaker 1: christof Walton all comes froll, certain super Key and Johnson.
Speaker 1: Who is it in terms of in terms of like
Speaker 1: what movies ultimately better? There is no rules here. This
Speaker 1: is just for fun. It's your playoffs. You get too
Speaker 1: stress involved. There's no stress. There's no stress involved. How
Speaker 1: I've already eliminated from one one bracket that we're playing
Speaker 1: each other. That's amazing. I'm gonna seen it go with
Speaker 1: I want to go with U. I'll go with I'll
Speaker 1: go with super Bad because I've seen it so many
Speaker 1: times Superman. Okay, Number one seed keeps its spots. Number
Speaker 1: one one has done, it's home has done, it's it's
Speaker 1: job kept on court. And now we have a forfeit
Speaker 1: in the next round, Dave where Ferris Bueller's day off
Speaker 1: does not even get to play. Russians Club moves on moves.
Speaker 1: I like that. I would have chosen Paris but he's
Speaker 1: got a bye week. He really really, he really does
Speaker 1: have a boy. So you know what do we put
Speaker 1: Do we put key in I'm gonna let Dave decide this.
Speaker 1: Do we put Keyan Johnson in the penalty box? Almost definitely?
Speaker 1: Or do we Okay, so he deserves to be in
Speaker 1: the penet absolutely no idea something that happens in a hockey.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna ask you a series of questions. You
Speaker 1: just answer the first thing that comes to mind, super easy,
Speaker 1: super simple, simple questions. Favorite cartoon of all time? Oh, shoot, movie, cartoon, movie,
Speaker 1: anything you want? Anything you want, any cartoon? Rick and Morty,
Speaker 1: Rick and Morty. Okay, that was a really good one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a good one. It's too It's to be
Speaker 1: honest time. Um, cargo shorts or quart roy pants? Great question, Um,
Speaker 1: really great question. We made keen smile. Does it make
Speaker 1: me seem really poor or dumb that I need to
Speaker 1: know what quarduroys are? It just means you're young. Let's
Speaker 1: ask the bodyguard, bodyguard, can you tell can you tell
Speaker 1: our guests what it is? So that's not the only
Speaker 1: one one. How our bodyguard, who is you guys, doesn't
Speaker 1: know what desc how could you just skuye couarto roy
Speaker 1: pants that textured? Yeah, pants that have like lines John
Speaker 1: Bryan Andrews and well thin lines. I like the lines
Speaker 1: instead of cargoes. The penalty boxes was made to be quick.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna do it. We're gonna do a different question.
Speaker 1: It's fine. They don't know what it is. They'll do
Speaker 1: a different question the next question for Keen just doing
Speaker 1: he just the penalty boxes and just slash the playoffs,
Speaker 1: just got rid of two film Johnson does what he can.
Speaker 1: When you have movie and he's in the hardest state,
Speaker 1: O man, you have the number one movie in the
Speaker 1: United States. You do whatever those shorts or couter right
Speaker 1: pants and he's like, what are the quarter right pants?
Speaker 1: It just means he's young, alright, he's Keen Johnson. You
Speaker 1: can invite two people to dinner, living or dead. You're
Speaker 1: not Keenan Johnson. I know I'm listening living or dead.
Speaker 1: Who are the two people you would invite to dinner? Uh?
Speaker 1: Sour Dolly and And by the way, that's what I
Speaker 1: was just there there you guys are getting a very
Speaker 1: inside look on who who Mr Johnson, And I'd just
Speaker 1: like to tell him that that's just be like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know we share a birthday, Like, I like that.
Speaker 1: What is it? What is keen? Honestly, what is the
Speaker 1: one question you would ask either of those guests if
Speaker 1: you could look them in the face. What is the
Speaker 1: one question? One question, one question that you would just
Speaker 1: like be dying to ask. How Like, how did it?
Speaker 1: How do you define your aesthetic? It's a great question,
Speaker 1: very deep. I like it. I like it all right, Um,
Speaker 1: we know that how do I define my aesthetic? Well, Corduroys,
Speaker 1: of course you booked honey guy. And then it was yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, we know that you know you're not your
Speaker 1: traditional sports fan. But if you could only play one
Speaker 1: sport is a professional out of all the sports that
Speaker 1: are available, what would it be? Mm hmm like chess master? Wow,
Speaker 1: grand master. Again, that sheds a lot of light on
Speaker 1: who we're talking. I love it. I love it. All right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep out of the penalty box. He's back
Speaker 1: on the ice, and now we are to the finals.
Speaker 1: Dave said, Okay, pal cabal. He said, you've just got
Speaker 1: out of the okay, pal cabal. Alright, So the playoffs
Speaker 1: we're down to. We're in the finals. This is the finals,
Speaker 1: the finals, number one seed super Bad against the number
Speaker 1: three seed Fair Spieler's day Off. Who is the winner?
Speaker 1: Who is Keen Johnson crowning the Chimp? I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel like you can't. I feel like I feel like
Speaker 1: Seth Rogan had to have gotten some inspiration from Ferris
Speaker 1: Spieler's day Off. I feel like that that, you know, no,
Speaker 1: I feel like that that team I don't know. I
Speaker 1: feel like that was I feel like Ferris Spieler hits
Speaker 1: that like comedic, like best friend comedy. But then it
Speaker 1: also feels like a huge movie, like The Parade for
Speaker 1: No Reason and going Er feels like he's going, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's going, He's going on incredible movie. John Hughes just
Speaker 1: crushed it. It's so good. It's so good. Well, Keian Johnson,
Speaker 1: you not only made it out of the hay Pal
Speaker 1: penalty box, but you also crowned a champion in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And it's completely left me das contented in all syrias. Um, Oh,
Speaker 1: you know what I want to ask you? One more
Speaker 1: one more question, one more one more quick penalty box
Speaker 1: type of question, ready Chipotle or anything else? And can
Speaker 1: you look into the camera. When do I say Chipotle
Speaker 1: or anything else? No, No, I'm ask you Chipotle or
Speaker 1: anything else? Well, which is better? And look into the
Speaker 1: camera when you answered. Just get to the point when
Speaker 1: I finished. When I was just a wee young kid,
Speaker 1: I was doing a show called Billy Elliott, and twice
Speaker 1: a day, going to the theater to Chicago, I would
Speaker 1: get not one, but two Chipotle bulls, and I say
Speaker 1: both of them. I would eat one before the show,
Speaker 1: and then I'd eat one during the show. And I
Speaker 1: was so obsessed with Chipotle that they actually sponsored a
Speaker 1: party for me my last my last performance, and they
Speaker 1: brought us a bunch of burritos to my apartment with
Speaker 1: no furniture in it because we were leaving, and we
Speaker 1: all h poll and who else? Wait, and who else
Speaker 1: should they sponsor? Key Johnson, you don't have a Chipotle card.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to work on that. Look at that.
Speaker 1: It's gonna I'm gonna work to Dave Bosco coming through. Okay,
Speaker 1: in all seriousness, Dave take us out. This is an
Speaker 1: awesome interview. What a deep and great deep And again
Speaker 1: it's so cool, especially you know somebody of your age
Speaker 1: to see you look at things so differently. Um, I
Speaker 1: think it's really refreshing and really cool and uh, proud
Speaker 1: of being your presence and proud of everything that you do. Yeah,
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