1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Flakey Biscuit is a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. All right, welcome to Flakey Biscuit. Were each 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: episode we are cooking up delicious morsels of nostalgia. I 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: hope we like to make meals and recipes that have 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: comforted and guided our guests to success. Each episode, I'm 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: creating a recipe from scratch, as you all already know, 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: sometimes successfully, sometimes not so successfully. But I hope that 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: you guys make these recipes along with me at home. 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: I'm Brian Ford and today very very special and funny 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: guests stand up comedian, actor and fellow podcast host Here Today, 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: Who's told jokes on The Late Show with James Cordon 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: Comedy Central, Amazon, acted in Billy Crystal's Here Today. Was 13 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: also in Hustlers with Jennifer Lopez. Oh man, I'm one 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: degree away from j Lo. His podcast is called The 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Downside with Jian Marcos Soresi, where he interviews people about 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: all the downsides to their life and complaining is encouraged 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: and negativity is celebrated. Please welcome the amazing, the spectacular 18 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: Jan Marco. 19 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: Hello, you say it so sexily. It's great. No One 20 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: says it like that, it's a wonderful. 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: Wow, not even your girlfriend. Damn, I need to calm down. 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 2: She goes, Johnny, Yeah, is that your nickname? Only my dad? 23 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: And then I let her into that club. 24 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: No, I'll stick with the gian Marco. 25 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing. 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: I love Italy. We actually just got engaged in Italy. 27 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: We took a family trip to. 28 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: You got engaged, like you proposed. 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: I proposed to her on the Amalfi coast. 30 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and did she know it was coming? 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: I think that she probably figured we were going to 32 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: unite our bond at some point, but she wasn't ready 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: for it at that moment. I don't think Oh yeah, no. 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: Now was a family there. Did you do it in private? 35 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: The whole family was there watching from the bluff down 36 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: onto the beach of the villa. 37 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: You have to have felt confident that, I mean, you're 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: not gonna risk that. 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: I did it like a disaster. To be honest, it 40 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: was wild. But anyway, I do love the Italian language. 41 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: I've studied it. My brother also speaks lots of languages. 42 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: My dad used to speak a lot of languages. 43 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: You speak Itali because I don't speak Italian. 44 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I don't speak Italian anymore than 45 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: like someone who pretends to speak Italian. I could I 46 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: speak Spanish? So okay, I can say a few sentences. 47 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: I can get around, I can order food. I can 48 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: say people's names. 49 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: That's more than me because Italians come up to me. 50 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: They hear my name and they're like baba bah, and 51 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 2: I have to be like, oh, no, no, I don't 52 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: speak to Italians. 53 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: Oh damn, So that's real. Yeah. 54 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 2: I did Rosetta stone twice, so you learn how to 55 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: say egg. But the only thing I remember is rosetta rosetta. 56 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: So how do you pronounce what I made for you today? 57 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: Ooh, you're really at the R. 58 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I have a lot of Italian friends. 59 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: I've worked with Italians, and I've never like, every time 60 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: I do that, people seem to think it's okay, Like 61 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to do it in jess. I genuinely 62 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: I just want to like be Italian sometimes. Yea, yeah, 63 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: I want to. Yeah, I mean you kind of got it. Yeah, 64 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: naturally I. 65 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: Faked the accent for a couple of voiceover jobs in 66 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 2: my life. 67 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: You do a lot of vio no. 68 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 2: I auditioned for a lot of vo though, and that's 69 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: the only accent. I can do a kind of gravio. 70 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: Well, when they see your name and they see you 71 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: pull up to an addition, I'm assuming that's what they want. 72 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: Sure, and I say, I'm more Jewish. I'd rather do 73 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: like kind of this thing, you know, so you could 74 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: let a stutter. I think, if there's a real Italian there, 75 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: I'm losing that job real fast. I don't even know 76 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: how Italian I am. My dad pretended, he exaggerated. 77 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: Oh so your dad was Italian, your mom is Jewish? 78 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: Got it? 79 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: And my dad raised me before I could understand fractions. 80 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: He told me I was one hundred percent Italian and 81 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: I would watch The Godfather. That's my whole like Italian 82 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: knowledge was The Godfather, and I loved it so much. 83 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: I went through a phase where I wrote on my 84 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: spelling tests. I wrote Jamericos SORESI corleone. 85 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: Wow. 86 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: I added corleone and my mom was livid and she 87 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: said he's a murderer. You can't do this. And then 88 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: one day I went to Italy after college and I 89 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: wanted to meet like this extended family. My dad was 90 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: always talking about and when I got to Italy, I said, Okay, 91 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: where are they? And my dad was like, ah, I 92 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: exaggerated a little. I'm not sure they're there somewhere. So 93 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: raizy on Instagram some people reach out sometimes, so ray related. 94 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 2: There was a street, there was a pasta, Sazi pasta, 95 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: have a picture of that's the only proof. That's my 96 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: DNA test. 97 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: Damn, that's amazing. I'll tell you what though, man cling 98 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: on to that I am. 99 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: I have no choice. I'm not even taking a DNA 100 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: test because if I'm not Italian and my name is 101 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: jeh Mariko Vincent Soreisi. 102 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: Oh wow. So let's just see how Italian you truly are, 103 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: because oh my, don't worry. I'm not coming at you. 104 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: But I would like you to let our listeners know 105 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: the specifics of what your nostalgic meal is. What did 106 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: you have me cook for you today? 107 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: So I had you cook al And again, I don't 108 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: know if this is because it's Italian or just my 109 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: parents are divorced and I was with a single dad 110 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: for a lot of the time, but ravioli was the 111 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 2: meal that he was making for lunch, for dinner, for breakfast. 112 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 2: If it was a Saturday. It was easy. You boil 113 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: the water, you throw it in. Even I could do it. 114 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: And then he'd put on tomato sauce and he would 115 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: say it's son as he used to say, we had 116 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: a secret sarasi sauce. I learned later it was just 117 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: ragu with some sugar added. But at the time I 118 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: was like, oh, the ancient sarasi sauce. And when you 119 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: know you need to pass this down generation to generation 120 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 2: and Ragu has it covered. 121 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 1: So was there a specific brand of ravioli? Was made fresh? 122 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: Was not made fresh? There was nothing made fresh at 123 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: my dad's house. Dear God, I sing you the. 124 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: Name of ben right, yes, the beef, yes Vili. 125 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 2: I texted my mom to be like, is this the one? 126 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: But the moment I saw the picture, I was like, 127 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: that's the one. That's all we had in our fridge 128 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: and he packed it for me for school. He put 129 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: it in this like awful container. And the smell something 130 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: about tomato sauce. It's just it's stinky. Yeah, if it's 131 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: not fresh right out the thing, it's awful, awful, mealtya 132 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: and it like stains the container, stains the container. It's 133 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: so gross. And you can't get into the nitty gritty 134 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 2: of the thing. And I would have the little the 135 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: tool that you opened it. It was like a fork 136 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: and a spoon and it was really revolting. I think 137 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 2: it's one of the reasons I didn't have a lot 138 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: of friends in middle. 139 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: School, damn, because of the Sarrazi secret sauce. 140 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it sucks. Yeah, kids don't appreciate it, no 141 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: legacy at that age. 142 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: They don't know what's going on truly. Yeah, I will 143 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: say my sister and I who's who's actually right here? 144 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: We see be Tony quite a bit. I'm not gonna Yeah. 145 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: So we are from New Orleans, you know, and in 146 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: New Orleans, there's not the greatest Italian food in New Orleans. 147 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: They did some spots, Yeah we had some spots, but 148 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: you know, we Hispanic and stuff like that, so we 149 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: didn't really know, like what is ravioli supposed to really taste? Like, 150 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: so we have when we have but Toni. That was 151 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: like we have but Tony tonight, Like were gonna have 152 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: some you know what I wos the little the five 153 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: cheese family pack. Yeah, those are absolutely fire. That was 154 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: a big night for your friend that was a big 155 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: night man. Put a little white sauce on there, or 156 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: sometimes just put olive oil, salt and pepper on it. Oh, 157 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: you'd add stuff and parmesan cheese. Okay, maybe that's the 158 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: Ford Secret sauce. 159 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's advanced. We did none of that. 160 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: I was eating out of the pot. 161 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: Hey, when it's cold, out of the pot. When it's cold, 162 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: out of the pot is no way. So when's the 163 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: first time you like or just like, the most memorable 164 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: time you had this? It obviously wasn't at school when 165 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: you was getting ribbed on the wool. When was the 166 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: moment you had this and you knew that you probably 167 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: would want to eat this again like later in life. 168 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: I think it's just I would eat it with my dad. 169 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: We'd watch Seinfeld. That was a big tradition for us. 170 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: This is probably the beginnings of what made me a comedian, 171 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 2: was watching Seinfeld with my father and a very Jewish show. 172 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: Having a very Italian meal felt like that's who I 173 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: was at the end of the day. And I went 174 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: a phase with my dad where I would brag about 175 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: how many pieces I could swallow at once without chewing. 176 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what you know this is a couple 177 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: of years ago, thirty one. No, but I went through 178 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: this phase where like dad wash me able to swallow six. 179 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: I swallowed six and I remember that being a big 180 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: accomplishment for. 181 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: Me without chewing them, without. 182 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: Chewing them, truly, not enjoying any of the car or 183 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: the meats. But I thought it was cool. And that's 184 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: I wasn't good at sports, but I could do that. 185 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: How was your stomach affter? Like what happened to your 186 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: body after you? 187 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: I think my body was used to it. My body 188 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: needed ravioli if I didn't get thirty pieces. 189 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: A day, just like Inhale, like not even chewed. Your 190 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: body just thrives on. Yeah, yeah, you know, no mastication. 191 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: All right, Well I made There's a couple of things 192 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: that need to happen right now because we learned some 193 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: pretty interesting facts about but Toni as a company. So 194 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: I will say that that it's a pretty Italian company. 195 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: I would hope. 196 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: So your family's pretty Italian. You guys were eating Buttoni 197 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: because this started in Tuscany. Man, This is some real 198 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: Italian stuff. This was like founded in Italy with the 199 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: fresh sauces and the fresh you know what I'm saying, 200 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: and you know, they just started packaging it up and 201 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: it's doing a lot. You know, they opened up in 202 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: Times Square in the thirties. Was more Italian than that. 203 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, what was it? 204 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: It was? It was a spaghetti store, like a spaghetti store. 205 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the nice. 206 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: New York was Italian. Yeah, I was run by the MOB. 207 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: Records are shallow there. Who knows what you were really 208 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: getting in the BUTTONI spaghetti store. I mean, I can't 209 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: really speak for that, but I would assume some foremost. 210 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: And that's part of what my great grandpa, my great 211 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: grandpa Luigi, my great crab Lugi, my great granma Donkey Kong, 212 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: and that's probably they were living in New York. His 213 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 2: name is Luigi. I don't even know what her name is, 214 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: to be honest. 215 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: No, but he was. 216 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: He was the real Italian. I have pictures. He was 217 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: like a boxing manager. Oh, definitely Mob time. 218 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: He managed a boxing club or something. 219 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: Like boxers Like he he was like whatever the like, 220 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: you know, setting up the bets, setting up the wow that. 221 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: I mean, Okay, so you are you might not speak 222 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: Italian perfectly, but you have some og Italian roots. 223 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely went to this store. He went to 224 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 2: the spaghetti store, and when when they asked him to pay, 225 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: he took out his gun and he said absolutely enough. 226 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: All right. So okay, so I made pasta for an 227 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: Italian on this show before and it didn't go very well. 228 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: All right, it happened to shoot you. He's a good 229 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: friend of mine, Daniel lu and I made the mistake 230 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: of re cooking the pasta. Okay, so today I am 231 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: going to if you look over there, I have my 232 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: fresh cut I don't know if you can see it 233 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: actually hiding. So I've got freshly made fasta freshly cut 234 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: filled ravioli. I'm going to get up and boil him 235 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: in a second. All right. 236 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: That's you could feed me. You could feed me anything. 237 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: And you could see the spaghettios, and I go, wow, 238 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 2: what authentic? What an authentic meal. I went to my 239 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: dad's for Thanksgiving this year. He thought the turkey, what 240 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: does it say on the turkey like oven ready? Is 241 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: that oven ready? So he thought that meant ready to eat. 242 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: That's a lot. But we basically we had an hour 243 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: and a half before I had to go to a show. 244 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: You're supposed to cook it for three hours so my 245 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: father he cooked it for one hour. Then he pulled 246 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: it out and he said, you know, it's still moving 247 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: at this point. And my dad was like, the outsides 248 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: are fine, the outsides are fine. So he started slice ofing. 249 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: He served it to us at ways. That's absolutely not 250 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 2: my point being. You will get no criticism from me 251 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: on this show as long as long as it's. 252 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: Not raw, as long as it's not completely you can 253 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: eat the outsides though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, I gotta 254 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: say to the listeners at home, I think I'll pass today. Yeah, 255 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: all right, So I'm going to get up. I'm gonna 256 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: get these ravioli into the pot. It shouldn't take long. 257 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: Feel free to give us your best Jeff Goldblum impression 258 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: while I'm cooking. Sure has Jeff Goldblum ever narrated pasta cooking? 259 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: I'm sure he'd do it. He seems to be. He 260 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: says yes to everything, it would seem I don't think so, 261 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: but now now he will, well today he will. Let's 262 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: do it all right, Uh, we are cooking a ravioli meal. 263 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: Oh the pasta looks fresh. It looks chewy. O HEAs. 264 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: I didn't see him wash his hands before he picked 265 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: it up. But but that's okay, that's okay. Bacteria finds 266 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: a way. All right, we're washing it now. I can't 267 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: wait to have a nice little little bit of soap 268 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: to go along with the ravioli. That should be delicious. 269 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: All right, Well, it looks it looks they're they're quite big, 270 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: they're quite large, they're sumptuous. All right, here we go. 271 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: We're putting two more in. Ooh, yes, very good, very good. Yes, 272 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: we got some saisi sauce. This is delicious, it's amazing. 273 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: I'm wafting it. Ooh, yes, that tomato feeling rather nice. 274 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 2: I could take a take a bath in that tomato sauce. 275 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,479 Speaker 2: Probably good. Good for the skin, keeps it nice and fresh. 276 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 2: Ah yes, on the pasta bowls ah yes, authentic Italian 277 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: pasta bols. All right, I hope we're coming out soon. 278 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: This is quite a long improvisation to do. But no, no, no, no, no, 279 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: no no no, we gotta keep going. You know, Billy 280 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 2: Crystal paid me money to do this, but I'll do 281 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 2: it for free. Here for some ravioli. This is where 282 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 2: acting rates are today. Just a couple pieces of ravioli. 283 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: I'll tell you a story about how bad of a 284 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: cook I am. I went viral for some cooking. I 285 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: basically cooked some chicken and peppers, and I cut up 286 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: the peppers and I noticed after I cooked it that 287 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: the sticker. I left the sticker on the pepper, so 288 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: I took a picture. I thought it would be funny. 289 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: Oh look at look at me, silly man. And then 290 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: everyone started dragging me for the way that the chicken looked, 291 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 2: for the way that I cut the pepper, for the 292 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: way that the stove was dirty. They dragged me for 293 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: everything except for the sticker itself. So they were like, 294 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: that chicken looks dry as hell. And the pepper, they 295 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: said they noticed it was chopped up in a way that, 296 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: if I'm being honest with your listeners, this meal was 297 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: just for me. Instead of using a knife I used, 298 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: I used my mouth to cut the pepper. I took 299 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: bites and then I let it fall from my mouth 300 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: into the bulk because I was about to put it 301 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: in my mouth. Anyway, it's not that gross if it's 302 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: just for me. But people sure noticed, and yes, it 303 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: was very embarrassing for me, for my family, and I 304 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: hope that's not how you made the riches of the ravioli. 305 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: You took a little nibble off the side. Yes, oh yes, yes, yes, yes, 306 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: that looks delicious. 307 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: All right, so I would love for you to have 308 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: a bite of this and let my listeners know where 309 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: is this bringing you back to? What does it taste like? 310 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: All right, he's taken a very intricate little right. I'm 311 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: gonna do it with you. 312 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: Because it's gonna be hot. It's one of these dishes 313 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: where you it's you think it's fine, and then you 314 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: get to that middle and you're like, oh my. 315 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: God, all right, I'm taking a bite as well. 316 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess anna being taken back. I can hear 317 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: my dad on the phone fighting with my mom. No, 318 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: I get him from Martin Luther King's day. Oh he's screaming. 319 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: I see my dog Ringer Seinfeld's on Delicious. Cheers, cheers. 320 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: So what are you tasting? Let me talk to me 321 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: about some textures. I know it's not like the chewed 322 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: up pepper thing that you did, and it's not that fast. 323 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: What are you tasting? 324 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm gonna try. So you got the you 325 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: got the thickness of the dough, You feel the real 326 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: mixed with just the softness of the meat. It's like 327 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: the pasta's warm, but the meat is even warmer. And 328 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: then the tomato sauce, it's got a nice little sweetness 329 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: to it, you know, the same way you'd have like 330 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: frosting on a cake cake battery. You have the sweetest 331 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: of the pasta. Oh yeah, on the density of the pasta. 332 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: I can tell you're Italian because you're speaking with your 333 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: hands too. I like the little tickle motion that you 334 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: just did there when you said sweetness. 335 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: About the meats the beat made. 336 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna you know, this recipe will be on 337 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: Shondaland dot com, of course, so that our listeners can 338 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: cook this along with me. And you know in the recipe, 339 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, you mentioned it was a thick pasta. I, 340 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, have a rolling pin and I don't have 341 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: a pasta roller machine here, So that's about as thin 342 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: as my frail arms could do. So I made a 343 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: simple egg yolk dough. One egg for everye hundred grams 344 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: of flour. That's a typical ratio if you're making pasta. 345 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: So so I made the dough, I rolled it out 346 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: with a rolling pin, and I filled it with They 347 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: made so I looked up you Tony's meat ravioli. I 348 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: looked up what was in it, and it said ground 349 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: beef and ricotta ricotta. That's it, so true. I did 350 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: a ground beef saute, you know, trade Fair's finest eighty 351 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: twenty chuck roast, two dollars a pound, added some oregano, 352 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: some salt, some pepper, you know, a little bit of 353 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: smoke pepper kat just to kind of you know, you 354 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And then I mixed it with ricotta, 355 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: and then I filled it, and then I crimped it. 356 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: I mean, you know it. It wasn't as bad as 357 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be. It was a relatively 358 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: quick process. And the sauce I typically buy whole peeled 359 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: tomatoes in a can, crush them up and add some 360 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: salt to them, and then I heat it up. That's 361 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: pretty much it, Man delicious. 362 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 2: Add some cheese on his way, yes. 363 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: Add some cheese on your last bite with your hands, yes, 364 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,239 Speaker 1: although I didn't see you wash them. All right, we're 365 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: getting a little cheese bite here. So Jan Marco is 366 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: choosing to potentially clean his plate, all right, that would 367 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: be I feel like quite a success. Oh you would 368 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: ask me it's delicious. Don't go anywhere if you're right 369 00:17:54,359 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: back after this, all right, all right, let's just jump 370 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: back in. So it sounded like and we're gonna get 371 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: you to reconfirm, but it definitely sounded like you went 372 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: back a little bit, you were rekindled a little bit, 373 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: and I don't know, maybe you're inspired to make a 374 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: video making your SODESI sauce. 375 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 2: Sure, I'm gonna have to ask my dad because I 376 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: know it's sugar. I feel like he may have added 377 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 2: some butter. Like he made it the most unhealthy sauce 378 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: you can possibly in the world. 379 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: Butter sugar. So that's a very I mean, I know 380 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: in New York pizzerias there's a lot of debate about 381 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: like sauce right in New York. And I'm not to 382 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,959 Speaker 1: everyone at home, to any New York pizza fanatic person, 383 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to profess any sort of authority in 384 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: the New York pizza sauce game, all right. I'm just 385 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: a humble baker from New Orleans with Latin American roots. 386 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: But I will say that it's hotly contested about sugar 387 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: and butter being add added into sauces. And what is 388 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: the true New York way to make a sauce. So 389 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: you're probably not far off with the sugar in the 390 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: butter situation because a lot of people do it. I 391 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised. 392 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, do pizza people get they get angry? 393 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh pizza people. Pizza people are pretty cutthroat 394 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: in this. And bagel people, yeah, we can circle back 395 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: to bagels. But pizza people and sauce people are very 396 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: very intense about the knowledge and that kind of thing. 397 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 2: So, I mean, it's pretty incredible that I travel a 398 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: lot for stand up and you go places and they 399 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: all have their New York. 400 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: Pizza place, New York Pizza, New York Best. 401 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: And that's a pretty incredible brand that somehow no one 402 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 2: goes like, oh this is you have North Dakota pizza. 403 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 2: I know, Chicago Style. They got Chicago Style. 404 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: You got to add style style. It's Chicago's style pizza. 405 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: Because there's like this debate about is it even pizza 406 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: and like that kind of thing. Sure, Chicago style pizza 407 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: is a cracker thin is to cast role. I mean, 408 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: what's even happening? There's too many question marks involved for 409 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: Chicago to become an international conglomerate in the pizza world. 410 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 2: I guess to Italians, do they have the authority there 411 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: still with pizza or is it pretty Did Marco Polo 412 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 2: steal it from China? 413 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: I think listen, pizza is a flatbread. That's my hot 414 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: take that I get a lot of hate mail on. 415 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: But pizza is a flat bread. Tomatoes were not Italian, 416 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: so I. 417 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 2: Mean, at the end of the tomatoes aren't Italian? 418 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: Tomatoes originally were brought to Italy at a certain point 419 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: in time. 420 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: Are you saying that white people acted like they invented 421 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 2: something when they just took it from someone else? 422 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: I am going to do, what does it plead the 423 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: fifth I'm not going to comment on the things that 424 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: white people may or may not do, but I am 425 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: going to say that this bowl that is very Italian, 426 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: that says tomato and basil, you know, the tomato may 427 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: or may not really be Italian. Oh that's a fucked 428 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: up take. I'm gonna get you better promote this episode 429 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: high and wide so that people can just attack me 430 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: about my tomato gate. 431 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. I never thought of vegetables or 432 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 2: fruits as as Italian or not. But I don't know, 433 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 2: what would you say it is? 434 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: What's your guts about tomatoes? Yeah, man, came from the Americas, 435 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: like a lot of things. When colonizers pulled up and 436 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: you know, murdered indigenous tribes and did all that kind 437 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: of thing that they did, they would go back to 438 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: Europe and like bring things vanilla bean from Mexico or 439 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, any number of things. They just bring it back. 440 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: Me up, look at this dope shit. So but you know, 441 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different types of tomatoes out there, 442 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: and I think as it stands now, Italians seem to 443 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: have like an affinity to like growing tomatoes on volcanic soil. 444 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: And you know, I do think Italians have the authority 445 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: on pizza because pizza is a distinct type of flatbread 446 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: that they made. 447 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: Sure. 448 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna take that away from them, you heard me. 449 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: But I will say that New York style pizza is 450 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: the best style pizza in the world. 451 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: You know, I'll be honest, I'm very carbs conscious. I 452 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: haven't eaten a lot of New York pizza in my 453 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: in my lifetime. 454 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: Hmm. 455 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: So, like I'll have to ask you, like the best 456 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 2: place to go, Let's do. 457 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: It there's a couple of places. Man. I am a 458 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: big fan of Scars and Lindustry. Okay, Scars and Industry 459 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: both have really excellent doughmaking techniques and skills. They ferment 460 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: their dough properly. They're two of my favorite slices. You 461 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: can't go wrong, you don't feel heavy after you eat it, 462 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: the ingredients are fresh, it's not sponsored. Is just really 463 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: I really love those two slices. 464 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 2: Do you think once they hear what you've said about 465 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: tomatoes not being Italian they'll even let you into. 466 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: The I doubt they'll ever hear this, but if they did, 467 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: Scar wouldn't give a shit. And the guys at Industry, 468 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: I don't know them really, but I don't think they'd 469 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: carry either. Let me reel us back in. I just 470 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: want to do a quick double check. Did this meal 471 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: bring you back to a moment that is special to you? 472 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: Sure it did? It did? Because I truly rarely get 473 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 2: ravioli since you know, going to college and being like, 474 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: oh I want to be fit. My my girlfriend gets 475 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: on my case all the top because she's like, you'll 476 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 2: eat ramen, but you won't eat this. And I think 477 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: because I was like a chubby kid. I associate because 478 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 2: my dad would let me eat this every single day. 479 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: So I think in my mind there's an association between 480 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: like this and like like this is a big slice 481 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: of cake as far as I'm consern so I don't 482 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: have it very often. So having it here absolutely brought 483 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: me back to my dad's kitchen. I open the fridge. 484 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: It's empty except for regu, a plastic, plastic container of 485 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: this shit. It's very nice, just the texture alone. The 486 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 2: texture alone, you don't get too often, that chewy chewy 487 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: with that real soft center. 488 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. Watch out, but Tony. I'm 489 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: about to have a spaghetti shop of my own come 490 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: into Times Square in twenty twenty four. 491 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: I wish there was more because I want to show 492 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: you how many I can swallow. All it was, Yeah, do. 493 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: You have what it takes? Do you think you can 494 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: swallow one of these? 495 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 2: I mean, sure you're gonna try. 496 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 497 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: It feels like a waste, but I'll do it for 498 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: the podcast. 499 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: Okay, do you want to try one without sauce or 500 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: one from my ball? I am, well, holy shit, that 501 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: one's really big, man. There's no way. 502 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: We'll see, don't worry. I'll be off. I'm gonna die. 503 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: That is a big Can you sign a death waiver 504 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: real quick in casey joke? Oh shit, oh shit, No, 505 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: you got to chew a little. You at least shoved 506 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: it all in your mouth, and I will give you 507 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: credit for trying at least to do that. Wow, you 508 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: need some water. You have water? You got beer? Okay, Yeah, 509 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: so we brought you back again for the listeners, shannaland 510 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: dot com. Keep the recipe, make sure you tag us, 511 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: make it. Check out the social content, the video content, 512 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: the recipe, video content, all that kind of thing. Make 513 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: sure you'll peep in the so you know we're pivoting 514 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: here at Flaky Biscuit to talk about. You've got stand ups, 515 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: You've got all this content online, you're in movies, you're 516 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: you know, you're doing the thing. How did this meal 517 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: get you into a period of like acceptance of who 518 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: you are? 519 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: I think my dad's with ravioli and with with like 520 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 2: cup of noodles made me able to survive on the 521 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 2: same food over and over and over again. And there 522 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: are periods of my life when I was a struggling 523 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: actor and a struggle stand up comedian, and I'm sure 524 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: I will return to those spaces at some point in 525 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: my career where I had to just eat whatever I 526 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: had in front of me, whether it be something boiled 527 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: water or something simple, and so in a weird way, 528 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: it made me kind of a survivor in terms of food. 529 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 2: My girlfriend, if she sees some of the meals I cook, 530 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: she's like, where's where's the But I go, we don't 531 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: have time for that, we don't have the money for salt. 532 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: Were just eating what was in the can, and so 533 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: listen as first was delicious. I loved ravioli. But I 534 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: think my dad's cooking style made me go like I 535 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 2: can survive on anything, and I think that made me 536 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 2: able to do this profession. 537 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, I love that mentality. You know, 538 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: there's only one way in life to succeed, and as 539 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: to like get it done what you got and try 540 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: to keep getting a little more pizza of the pie. 541 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 2: And I think the smell make kids not like me. 542 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: And you know you need to be unpopular to be 543 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: a comedian. You gotta go through that at some point. 544 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: That's a real take. Oh yeah, you grew up in 545 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: Potomac marrit You saw my eyes struggle to pronounce Potomac. 546 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: I guess is that a food town? Like what's y'all 547 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: eating the crab cakes type thing? 548 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 2: Just like deeper in Maryland, Like Maryland, there's parts of 549 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: Maryland for crabs, but Potomac is boring, is no culture. 550 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 2: Potomac has zero culture. If we got pizza, it was 551 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: ship pizza. If we got if we got Rali, it 552 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: was out of the box, almost awful. 553 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: How long did you live in Potomac my whole life? Man? 554 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: You just bro, you just done shit all over where 555 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: you're from. 556 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: Potomac sucks, man. Everyone's getting divorced because they can't even 557 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: enjoy their food. It's a miserable, miserable place. Now. 558 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: I feel like you could take this and get like 559 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: an ambassador role with Potomac and like revive it. Like 560 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: you know, there's Italian towns that pay people to move there. 561 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: You could be the start of a movement where you 562 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: just like get people to go to Potomac and make 563 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: it poppin. 564 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 2: Sure, I'll try. That'll be in my life's gol. It's 565 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: very expensive. It's a lot of it's like the kind 566 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: of rich people who you're like, you shouldn't have money 567 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: because you don't even know how to enjoy it. You 568 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: don't enjoy it. You just got money to give it 569 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 2: to your lawyer. You suck my dad and stepdad's to 570 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: live there. 571 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: But oh, man, let me tell you something right now. 572 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: So not only is it there's no food, it's just 573 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of rich people, just. 574 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: A bunch of rich people with so much property so 575 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: they can isolate themselves from any kind of community or culture. 576 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: It's a thirty minute drive. Just get out of the driveway. 577 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: It is terrible place, man, all right, Potomac, so we 578 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: ain't getting no sponsorship deals. 579 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 2: And they'd be lucrative too, so you're really messing out. 580 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,959 Speaker 2: Potomac would eat this meal and they'd be like, so 581 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: spicy that tomato sauce was kind of spicy. Why didn't 582 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 2: you tell me? 583 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: I feel like that I could thrive in Potomac. I'd 584 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: be like a foreign entity. They might be in awe 585 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: of me. They'd be like, yo, look at this. 586 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah they love foreign entities. 587 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: Yeah you know what, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a 588 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: foreign entity to them. I might I might have to 589 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: do a ravioli shop up in Potomac because but you 590 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: so you went to college in Miami, which is a 591 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: change of definitely definitely in Miami. 592 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 2: For more cocaine in Miami and the Potomac. I'll tell you. 593 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: That, really, I think that thoughts more prescribed medication xanax 594 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: damn zero redeeming qualities like zero. We don't want anyone 595 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: ever to go there. Yeah, besides if you're visiting your. 596 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: Dad, yeah, I don't ever want to go there. Exactly 597 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: to your earlier point. 598 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: Savagery. Today the has really brought something out in Jean Marco. 599 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: We're we're going off the rails. 600 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm back in my childhood. 601 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: You're right, but tell me you better watch out. We're coming. 602 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: How was the Miami experience like? Was that culinarily? 603 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to go back and have more because 604 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: I ate a lot of the cafeteria food. I was 605 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 2: trying to learn how to cook badly. I remember I 606 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: tried cooking chicken once. Thank god I had a girlfriend 607 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: at the time. I didn't have time to cook the 608 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 2: whole chicken, so I said okay, and I put it 609 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 2: in the fridge and I was like, I'll cook the 610 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: rest later. 611 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: Well, hold on, you par cooked it. 612 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: What you think is what happened? Yes, I cooked it, 613 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: and I said, oh shit, I don't have enough time. 614 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: It's still really pink in the middle. As I said, 615 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: I know what I'll do. It made sense to me. 616 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: It still makes sense to me. But I put it 617 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: back in the fridge. And then later I went to 618 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: cook it, you know, finish the job. And my girlfriend 619 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 2: was like, no, no, no, that's not how you do it. Damn, 620 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: that's what I had instead of like glorious Caribbean. 621 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: How long y'all been together? No? 622 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: No, no, that was the last relationship. 623 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: That was my bad. I must have spaced out because 624 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: I was hearing the row chicken and going back. 625 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: Once she took a bite, she said, we're over over real, 626 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: like legit. No, there were other horrible to It wasn't 627 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: just that it was my neediness by oct oh, God, 628 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: the chicken was not as big a problem. 629 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: But I don't think. 630 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 2: No, but it was a problem for sure. I feel 631 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 2: like if the chicken had been better, it would have 632 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: made up for all the other flaws I have as 633 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 2: a human being. 634 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: I can say right now with one hundred percent confidence 635 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: that if you could put a few good meals in 636 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: front of your lady, you might be able to get 637 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: away with some you know what I'm saying, being. 638 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: A piece of shit. That's especially what you're saying. You 639 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: cook a few good meals. You could combine the Anniversary's 640 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 2: mount Then's stay, birthday, and Christmas soul into one. 641 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we're talking about more simple things. We're not 642 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: talking about like overall behavioral flaws like you know, We're 643 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: talking about the more simple things like oh damn, like 644 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: it's your birthday. I just made the reservation, like you 645 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: know what I mean, the little things. 646 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: That's all though, I know, I know that's the best 647 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 2: motivation I've ever had to cook in my entire life. 648 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: When I forget the reservation. 649 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, let me tell you right now, because then 650 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: you get to whip up something from the soul and 651 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: on a budget or. 652 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: Whatever opening that can I'll be like, this is from 653 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: the soul. 654 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: Baby. What are you doing stand up comedy in Miami? 655 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: When were you like, oh shit, I'm actually funny. 656 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: Well, I went to college for musical theater, which is embarrassing. 657 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: It's like having a degree and imagination. And I think 658 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: I realized why I was getting the degree, that I 659 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: was wasting my life, and so I started comedy I 660 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: did a summer camp in New York after junior year 661 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: of college, and I took a class where you know, 662 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: it's a scam, you pay money, and the bottom line 663 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: is at the end you have to perform five minutes 664 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: in front of people. I think, of all the things 665 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 2: I've ever done, that was what I was most naturally 666 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: good at. But I didn't do it for a while. 667 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: It's a very different lifestyle. You have to give up 668 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 2: nights for the rest of your life, and so I 669 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: didn't do it. I moved it to New York. I 670 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: did a lot of theater. I did theater for years. 671 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I've shared the stage with some people who 672 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: have gone on to become huge real estate agents. I failed, 673 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: you know. I did a little commercial stuff here and there. 674 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: But then I wrote a play and in the play 675 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: I talked to the audience a bunch and people were like, 676 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: we like that part, the rest not so much. And 677 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: I said, okay, I'll focus on that. And then so, 678 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,719 Speaker 2: like eight years ago now, just started doing stand up 679 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: at a garbage comedy club called Lol Garbage where it 680 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: used to be in Times Square, then it moved. The 681 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: owner had a gay bar. He said it was a 682 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 2: gay bar. I'd never seen it. Once he lost the lease, 683 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: he moved LOL to the gay bar, and I went there, 684 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: and I thought it would be like, oh, gaybar may 685 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: be able to be nicer, higher quality. I don't know 686 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: a gay man alive who had stepped foot in this 687 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: bar that I saw. It was the same decor as 688 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 2: the comedy club. It's just lol nas X was playing 689 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 2: on the TV from time to time, and that's what 690 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 2: made it a gay bar. And now it's a comedy club. 691 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: And I stopped working there a couple of months ago. 692 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: I said no more. Now that I'm on the flaky biscuit, I. 693 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: Think, I, oh, man, yeah, can. 694 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: I get moved past this unpaid work you made. 695 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: It's a flaky biscuit. You've made it all the way 696 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: in your career. That's what every single guest has been 697 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: telling us. 698 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: So that's that's where I really got my legs. It 699 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: was it was performing for terrible shows, but they were 700 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: packed with tourists who had just been scammed, who was 701 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: told Chappelle might show up, and instead of Chappelle, it's me. 702 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: Is that that's legit? What happened? 703 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're sold on like a celebrity stuff if Roseanne, 704 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 2: if Roseanne passed the club in the sixties, they'd be like, 705 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 2: she's she could be here tonight. There's a chance. That's 706 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: how I learned comedy. 707 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: Nice. We watched shelf Life last night and it was 708 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: to be honest, the funniest thing that happened in shelf 709 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: Life was the two old men that you said were 710 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: on the Titanic or something that that killed me. I 711 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: was absolutely dead. But something that was really interesting to 712 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: me that I wanted to ask you about. You made 713 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: a disclaimer about being Jewish before making a Jewish joke. 714 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 2: Sure, what was your question? 715 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: How was that played like in your comedic life? I mean, 716 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: you know, the first thing you said to me was like, 717 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm not I don't really speak Italian and you know this, 718 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: and they're like, I feel like my work evolves as 719 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: I evolved, And I'm like, is that do you find 720 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: that to happen as well? 721 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely? I think again. I was raised with this perception 722 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 2: of being like very Italian, and my mom didn't practice 723 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: much of Judaism. Her parents told her she could either 724 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 2: have Abot Mitzvah or sweet sixteen when she was twelve, 725 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: and she was like, oh wait, for the Sweet sixteen 726 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 2: and that was kind of like the end. So we 727 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: went to temple once a year, all that stuff. And 728 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 2: then I think, like becoming a comedian, there's a Jewish 729 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 2: heritage in comedy and a look at the comedians that 730 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: I like, like Seinfeld of course many years ago, Woody 731 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 2: Allen at the time. Things have changed, but I think 732 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: like that's part of the embracing of the Jewishness. My 733 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: girlfriend is grew up in New Orleans in a Kabad community. 734 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 2: Oh so she's she's no longer practicing, but it's a 735 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 2: big part of her life. So being with her has 736 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 2: made me feel closer to like my Judaism and understanding it. 737 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: And then I also think there's a weird strain because 738 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 2: there's been feels like more anti Semitism recently. There's something 739 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 2: about when when a group of people hate you for 740 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 2: who you are, that does make, at least for me, 741 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 2: make me kind of identify with it more or understand 742 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: it more, or feel unified in a sad way with 743 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 2: my people. I was in I was in Houston. This 744 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 2: happened three times now, I said. I was on stage, 745 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 2: I said I'm Jewish, and that's all I said. And 746 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: someone in the audience went yuh, and I was like, 747 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 2: joke's on you. That's Hebrew for a great job. That 748 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 2: was a joke. That's okay, Yeah, you thought it was 749 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 2: really You're gonna go up for Jews all the time, 750 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 2: and you're like, yuh, saying. 751 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: A great job. 752 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 2: No, no, no, That's why I had to tell you. 753 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 2: I think, like all all that stuff has just made 754 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: me think about it more, Like I have a bit 755 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 2: now of like you know, people say to I've had 756 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 2: people say to my face this, say the Jews run Hollywood, 757 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, then how about a thank you? Okay, 758 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 2: we're doing pretty well. I would think if you ever 759 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 2: seen a Christian movie, they're terrible. Oh well, let me 760 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,479 Speaker 2: guess the main character is Jesus Christ. Wow, he died, 761 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: I wonderful, come back to life again, your fucking hack. 762 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 2: So it's a weird thing where it's like obviously gives 763 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 2: you a lot of comedic mileage, you know, like when 764 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: you're able to talk about culture, everyone has some knowledge 765 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 2: of that culture that you can then play off of. 766 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 2: And that's it's made me identify with it more. And 767 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 2: I have more Jewish jokes and I have Italian jokes 768 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 2: because I think I just have more experiences related to 769 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 2: my Judaism now than I do. 770 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: It's a time right now where there is suffering within 771 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: your community, and there are people will get inspired even 772 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: if you're making jokes, but they're inspired by your willingness 773 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: to kind of stand up and talk about these things 774 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: that have happened. Right Like, it's you know, getting called 775 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: names to your face is shitty. We all know what 776 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: that feels like, and it's not great. So but when 777 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: you're able to kind of overcome that and thrive in 778 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: your profession and inspire people while doing so, I think 779 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: I think that's the most important takeaway that at least 780 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: keeps me going. Obviously seems to be keep you going. 781 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:00,479 Speaker 1: Full seat my head. 782 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I'm no fan of religion in general. There's 783 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 2: certain aspects of Judaism I do not do not enjoy. 784 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 2: But I think it's also as you get older, it's 785 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 2: like you want some community in your life, and it 786 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 2: can feel it could just feel nice to like know 787 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 2: that if I, you know, if I run to a 788 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 2: stranger and they happen to be Jewish, there's some interesting 789 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: things to talk about, and it's something that my girlfriend 790 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 2: just really had from her about upbringing that I admire. 791 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 2: And then we go to temple and I go, I 792 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 2: don't admire this anymore. I'm Italian again. 793 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: Let's go watch The Godfather one, two, or three. 794 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 2: Oh, it's gotta be It's gotta be one. But then 795 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 2: Sonny getting shot in that second one, that's a really 796 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 2: visceral scene in my mind. There's so much dread too, 797 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 2: is when he like that guy gets stuck in the 798 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 2: the revolving door. They kill like all the mob bosses. 799 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: So that was good to Yeah. 800 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 2: Great. I saw three when I was so young that 801 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 2: I didn't know it was bad, I guess, And I 802 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 2: haven't seen it again as an. 803 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: Adult because everyone says it's so bad. 804 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 805 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: I think I've seen it maybe one or two times. 806 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 2: And a director put his daughter in it, and like, 807 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 2: you know, that's always going to rub people through. 808 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and al Pacino was pretty good though. 809 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what he was. That's when he was 810 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 2: starting to get a little too al Pacino. We've for people, Oh, 811 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 2: like Jesus Christ, let's get some colors here, let's get 812 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 2: some soft tones. 813 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: Look, thanks for you know, opening up and sharing about 814 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,439 Speaker 1: your culture. Your heritage and how that kind of it's 815 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,919 Speaker 1: tough to talk about. I get put into positions where 816 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, you know, I'm Afro Honduran, or 817 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 1: like what does that mean? Where's Honduras? Is it in Mexico? 818 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: Why are you black? What do you speak spanis? Why 819 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: do you speak English so good? And you know the 820 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: whole My sister and I I was about to act 821 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: dealt with that kind of thing. 822 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 2: Why do you speak English so good? I've been waiting 823 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 2: to ask that. I didn't want to like interrupt the flow. 824 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was kind of saving that explanation. I had 825 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: to help you understand where Honduras was first America. I 826 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: had to teach you about colonization and how ingredients had 827 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: then take it away and all that kind of thing. 828 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: Then I was gonna explain. 829 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 2: You should you should have a show where you bring 830 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 2: on guests and you have like food that's important to 831 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 2: their culture. Then you explain to them how they actually 832 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 2: stole that share someone else's culture. 833 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: It would be dope, it would be dope. 834 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 2: And then you make them do the dishes. After he said, 835 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 2: that's what you get for stealing us? 836 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: Oh, John Marco hungry for more Flaky Biscuit. They tuned, 837 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: welcome back to Flaky Biscuit. You blessed us with this 838 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,919 Speaker 1: beautiful Jeff Global impression. When and how do you think 839 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: the shift from being that guy doing that impression to 840 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: kind of being one of the funniest comedians in New York? 841 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: Like when did that happen? When did you feel like, oh, 842 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm like crushing it And it's not just because of 843 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: this one thing. 844 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 2: Just be clear. I think my my PR person told 845 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 2: you to say the funniest comedian in New York, not 846 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 2: one of the funniest comedians. 847 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: And let me rephrase that. Let me rephrase that on 848 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: to being considered the hands down, absolute funniest comedians in 849 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 1: New York right now, Thank you, thank. 850 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 2: You very much. It was a thought I think once 851 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 2: I did it in that Billy Crystal movie. M I said, Okay, 852 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 2: it can't go much better than this, Like anything after 853 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 2: that is going to be a disappointment. What am I 854 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 2: gonna get asked to do like a Jeff goldbum impression 855 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 2: on like a cooking podcast. So I decided, like I'm 856 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 2: gonna retire that for good. And you know it's hard. 857 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 2: I think with comedy first of all, I'm not a 858 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 2: great impression. It's I can do like two. And I 859 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 2: think like, if you lean on impressions too much, you're 860 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 2: not finding the really funny thing because they're partially just 861 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 2: laughing at the voice you're doing. So I said, at 862 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 2: least on stage, I was like, nah, put it to bed. 863 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: Interesting, So you kind of made a choice to not 864 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: let it define you as a comedian before. 865 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 2: It bled into me though. I did that impression for 866 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 2: so long that when I talk, it changed the way 867 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: that I pause and go in and out. And so 868 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 2: they're like, if you listen to me on stage, you 869 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 2: can see little flavors of Jeff Goldblum. I feel it 870 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 2: right now that came through. I can you know, I 871 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 2: open every set with you know, real subtle So yeah, 872 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 2: if you listen to me, you can. I think if 873 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 2: you are familiar with John Mulaney, Anthony Jesslinic or Jeff Goldblum, 874 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 2: you can hear notes from all three. 875 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 1: Got some heavy inspiration though, and it's it's interesting to 876 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: hear you kind of break that down and how it's 877 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: maybe molded you. 878 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 2: No, I think, so, I mean I have to be 879 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 2: careful how much I listened to any of those those guys, 880 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 2: because it just starts happening naturally. But I like, I 881 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 2: like the idea that you want to you want to 882 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 2: borrow from people in the right way. 883 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,439 Speaker 1: Listen. I like impressions as well. 884 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 2: You guys. 885 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: I got a couple I got They just looked at 886 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: each other because they hear it all the time, and 887 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: it's all I've got. Well, all this talk about racism, Uh, 888 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: it's something very special. I might be hispanic. Well, actually 889 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm not what. 890 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 2: That's the best Donald Trump I've ever seen in my 891 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 2: entire life. That was really good at that incredible. 892 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: That's all I got. 893 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 2: That was very good. Yeah, yeah, let's see. 894 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,919 Speaker 1: You got to give you some breathing room on this one. 895 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: All right. Okay, so we're talking about songs. Huh, we're 896 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: talking about ravial. Isn't that what you told me the 897 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: other day? Huh. We have something called the Flaky Game 898 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: that we're going to get into before we move on 899 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: into the close of our beautiful show. But I do 900 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,280 Speaker 1: want to know, and I'm sure my listeners are curious, 901 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 1: what's next for you? What is on? What is in 902 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,879 Speaker 1: the pipeline that you can talk about? 903 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? I could talk about all of it. I'm touring. 904 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 2: I'm just on the road pretty much every weekend, going 905 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 2: around America. Gonna be in Canada just for laps this year. 906 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 2: I'll be in London in November. So I'm just expanding 907 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 2: going around. My podcast is called The Downside, and then 908 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,359 Speaker 2: I'll film a special this year and I'll probably go 909 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 2: on YouTube. All right, is that's what we do these days? 910 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 1: Moving into the flaky game, as I promised, the longest 911 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: ravioli measured so far was blank and was achieved by 912 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,320 Speaker 1: Amway Russia in Saint Petersburg on August third, twenty thirteen. 913 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 2: I was literally reading about this yesterday. 914 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 1: So essentially, how long was the longest ravioli that was 915 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: made in Russia? 916 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: Okay, let me think. 917 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm supposed to give you three options? 918 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 2: Oh? Thank you? 919 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: Okay, good? This man, this man was straight up like, 920 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,280 Speaker 1: all right, well fuck it. Let me try to introduce 921 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 1: option one, six hundred feet, Option two thirty five point 922 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: five feet, Option three ninety six feet and one inch 923 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 1: thirty five point five and wrong. Why did you pick that? 924 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,720 Speaker 1: You were very confident. 925 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 2: Because ninety six is that's too much of. 926 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,720 Speaker 1: A ninety swallow? That sae no no, you couldn't. Ninety 927 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: six feet and one inch is our longest ever ravioli. 928 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: It was filled with chicken and onion. Were they making parochis? 929 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: Was that a ravioli? 930 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,919 Speaker 2: But did they put it on like a football field 931 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:37,760 Speaker 2: or was it on a plate. 932 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: I've seen these things where like Domino's will make like 933 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: the biggest pizza in the world, and it's literally just 934 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of pizzas next to each other, and then 935 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: they like dump sauce on it with mops. Oh God, 936 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: I don't know there are in the world right now. No, 937 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,240 Speaker 1: they donate it, great donation. 938 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 2: Hey, you want the pizza scrubbed with the mop? It's 939 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,879 Speaker 2: been sitting out ten hours from a photo shooting. 940 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: A football field. All right, a couple more questions for you. 941 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: The most ravioli made in two minutes is blank and 942 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: this was accomplished by Gino da Campo on the set 943 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: of Let's Do Lunch with Gino and Mel talk about 944 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: random all right, So in two minutes, how many ravioli 945 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,760 Speaker 1: were made? Was it thirty three? Was it one thousand? 946 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 1: Was it nine and eighty two? 947 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 2: In two minutes and two minutes? It's going to be 948 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 2: the small number thirty five, thirty three, thirty thirty three. 949 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: I love it that that honestly. 950 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 2: Pretty easy one? Was it thirty or nine billions? 951 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: All right? I just got a couple more for you. 952 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 1: Jewish cuisine has a similar dish called blank, a pocket 953 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: of meat or other filling covered by egg pasta. Is 954 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,280 Speaker 1: it a kniche or is it a kreplac? 955 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 2: I feel like it's not a kniche, so a couplac. 956 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,879 Speaker 1: A Jewish ravioli is a corplac, I guess, so, well, 957 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 1: there we go. 958 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 2: I'm glad. My girlfriend would be mad if I didn't 959 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:03,479 Speaker 2: get that one. 960 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: So you've never had it before? No, definitely, Well you 961 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: have some homework. Yeah, even flaky biscuit was a homework. 962 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: I want to see you get on Instagram, make some croplaque, 963 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 1: and I want to see it. Last one is true 964 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: or false. The largest raviolo. See how I used a 965 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 1: singular version because it's just one. 966 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't even know that ravioli is plural. 967 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: The largest raviola ways so true or false seventy nine 968 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 1: point five pounds and was made by the tet Talagen 969 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:36,760 Speaker 1: Company in Central Malta on May fourth, twenty thirteen. 970 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of it was twenty twelve or 971 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 2: twenty thirteen. I mean that's big. That's that's a little 972 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 2: lighter than may. That's a big Ravioli. 973 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. And can I also say that the 974 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: three they're all in twenty so in twenty thirteen something 975 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 1: in the world must have been happening where people were 976 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: trying to like break the record with Ravioli because all 977 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 1: three of these true or false? Though one hundred and 978 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: seven five pounds. What's your take, It's. 979 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 2: Gotta be true. It's absolutely true. 980 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have an expert. All right. This has been phenomenal. 981 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: We love to end our episodes talking about, you know, 982 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 1: the things that you like to do to help improve 983 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 1: our communities and let our listeners know about something that 984 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 1: you hold near and dear to your heart. I believe 985 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: the Jewish Queer Youth Organization is something that you believe in. 986 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 1: So I would love for you to tell me and 987 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: my listeners what can we do to support this cause 988 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: and why is it important to you? 989 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 2: I'll start with why is it important to me? I 990 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 2: think this has always been like one of my hang 991 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 2: ups with all religion is lgbt Q rights and just 992 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 2: the way it's viewed. And when I went on my 993 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 2: birthright trip, the rabbi who was a tour guide, he 994 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 2: did this game. He was like, we're going to all 995 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,879 Speaker 2: play a game called stump the Rabbi. You can ask 996 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 2: me anything you want. He wanted, like, what do you 997 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 2: call Jewish RAVIOLI thought it'd be fun. Yeah, And I 998 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 2: asked how Toews feel about homosexuality? Right out the gate? 999 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 2: You went right out the gate? I said, I'm gonna 1000 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 2: stump him. I'm gonna win this game. And he gave 1001 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:13,760 Speaker 2: some bullshit answer about like, oh, life is hard. If 1002 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 2: someone said they were gay, I'd give them a hug 1003 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 2: and I'd say life is hard. And I was like, okay, 1004 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 2: follow up question, What the fuck what did you just say? 1005 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 2: And I think we live in a time where we're 1006 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 2: all trying to in the liberal side of things, the 1007 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 2: left side of things, be more accepting and welcoming, and 1008 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 2: there's always this conflict with like religious freedom and then 1009 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 2: certain religious beliefs that are antithetical to gave people existing 1010 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 2: you're living a fulfilled life. I don't know how you 1011 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 2: square away the issue. And it's easy for me because 1012 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 2: I wasn't raised in this Jewish tradition. But if you 1013 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 2: are raised in a Hasidic family, more orthodox gsing a 1014 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 2: big part of your life, it's got to be a struggle. 1015 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 2: It's got to be a real struggle, whether you just 1016 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 2: support LGBTQ rights or you are a member of the community. 1017 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 2: And so as I closer to the Jewish world, I 1018 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 2: just think like resources that help help people psychologically square 1019 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 2: away these two worlds, even if they sometimes feel it conflict, 1020 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,919 Speaker 2: but also makes it more accepted and hopefully, I think 1021 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 2: hopefully in the long run, brings more and more of 1022 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 2: Judaism to a place where it's you can be open 1023 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 2: about being kay and you're accepted and it's not even 1024 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 2: considered like a light sin or whatever that it's just fine. 1025 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,760 Speaker 2: So this just an organization that that my my girlfriend 1026 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 2: has been telling me about that. I mean a big 1027 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 2: part is just resources for queer Jewish youth to just 1028 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 2: feel like they have a home. 1029 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 1: That's amazing. Thank you for sharing that. And you know, 1030 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: is this something that's based in New York or is 1031 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,760 Speaker 1: this or their volunteer opportunities are their you know, donation opportunities. 1032 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 2: There's definitely donation opportunities and I'm sure there's volunteer opportunities. 1033 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 2: I believe it's started in New York, but I think 1034 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,280 Speaker 2: it's all around, and it's it's growing. 1035 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a really important one. Honestly, I think 1036 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 1: the more people I talk to and the more you 1037 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: go on the news or whatever, I mean, the more 1038 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,839 Speaker 1: this issue has taken center stage because there's a lot 1039 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,399 Speaker 1: of communities right now that are struggling with going about 1040 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 1: things the right way. There's black and brown communities like this. 1041 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: There's you know, I hate to say, but I mean 1042 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 1: Hispanic communities, you know in Latin America, where maybe being 1043 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 1: queer is not something you want to tell your family. 1044 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's you want to be proud to 1045 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 1: be Hispanic and proud to be all this kind of thing. 1046 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: But then if you you know, say that you're gay 1047 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 1: or queer or whatever it is that how you identify, 1048 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,880 Speaker 1: there's going to be backlash, and then it becomes terrifying 1049 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: for them, and then they just never talk about it. 1050 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 1: You are, you know. 1051 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 2: And also I despise the like it's okay to be gay. 1052 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 2: It's not right, but it's okay like it to me. 1053 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 2: The people who spouse that will quickly latch onto the 1054 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 2: hateful person if they think gay people have existed forever. Yeah, 1055 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 2: they're responsible for as much of humanity's progress as anything else. 1056 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 2: And Yeah, I think what's been shocking is because when 1057 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 2: I was in middle school, that was high school, college, 1058 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 2: when gay marriage was legalized, I always assumed the world 1059 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,320 Speaker 2: would become more progressive, especially in that sense, and there's 1060 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,800 Speaker 2: been this like horrifying rebound where suddenly we're talking about 1061 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 2: drag queens as an issue, and people are like talking 1062 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,400 Speaker 2: about trans rights in this negative way, and it's like, 1063 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's become everyone's main target and 1064 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:22,240 Speaker 2: it's strange. 1065 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 1: It's quite strange. 1066 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,800 Speaker 2: It's being exploited by the people who just want the votes, 1067 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 2: and it's such a hateful, horrible rebound. That's shocking to me. 1068 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 2: I'm just shocked to see like things move backwards. And 1069 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 2: that's that's partly because of the privilege as a straight 1070 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 2: man to not to not recognize that these movements don't 1071 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,280 Speaker 2: just move propel themselves forward forever. 1072 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, this particular issue, I feel like it is prominent, 1073 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,479 Speaker 1: it's prevalent because we it's up to us to stand 1074 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,879 Speaker 1: up also and say some things as well. I might 1075 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 1: identify as straight, but what's happening is horrendous, and you know, 1076 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 1: I think finding ways to help youth specifically get these issues. 1077 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 1: And you know, if we can get our listeners to 1078 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,319 Speaker 1: just hey, like made this donation might make a huge 1079 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,399 Speaker 1: difference in someone's life or that you know, maybe there's 1080 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,919 Speaker 1: a volunteer opportunity where we can become mentors and help 1081 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 1: these youth grow. So I think it's up to us 1082 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 1: also to stand up say specifically and loudly and clearly 1083 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: how wrong the atrocities are that are happening. This is 1084 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,399 Speaker 1: a food podcast. You know, we're having fun, we're talking 1085 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 1: about recipes, but it is we feel like it's really 1086 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: important to always just kind of end with like, hey, 1087 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: like by the way that real stuff that's going on, Like, 1088 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,880 Speaker 1: we want to make sure that we're gonna make as 1089 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 1: much noise as we can about it and try to 1090 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: actually make a small difference where we can. 1091 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 2: So, tomatoes are gay. We all know it. 1092 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: You heard it here first on Flake You biscuit tomatoes 1093 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: are gay, and you love tomatoes, so join the rest 1094 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 1: of the world. Thank you, Jan Marco. This has been 1095 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: an absolute pleasure. I really really appreciate everything that you 1096 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 1: brought to the table today. It was an honor to 1097 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: get to know you, and I hope to see you 1098 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 1: again soon. 1099 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 2: That's it. Oh, pray go. 1100 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,799 Speaker 1: Thank y'all for listening. Fam. If you want to make 1101 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 1: my version of you Tony Ravioli for yourself, which I 1102 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: know you do, find that recipe on shannaland dot com. 1103 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,680 Speaker 1: And you know my doe game is vicious, so come 1104 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: on now, and I want to know how it goes 1105 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: when y'all make it. 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