WEBVTT - Draft Show: 2016 Review & Who To Watch For

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys Select by Rand Joe and now your hosts

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<v Speaker 1>Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, they

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<v Speaker 1>Draft show. Brian brought us here along with my trusted

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<v Speaker 1>group of scouts. We heard the announcer talk about Big

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<v Speaker 1>Boys guy. Dave Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back, David. We just stop and consider the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we're doing a draft show. Yeah, week seven, by way,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's awesome. It's amazing. I think it is awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some teams that like, don't didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast about the season, let alone do it an offseason

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<v Speaker 1>draft podcast. Well, this just shows you how much does

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<v Speaker 1>people care about the NFL draft. Dane Burglar from CBS

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<v Speaker 1>Sports and Dallas Cowboys dot Com one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>young draft minds in the nation. Loving these digs. How

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<v Speaker 1>about that huh just down the road from you, right? Yeah? Great?

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<v Speaker 1>To see you guys in Frisco, and I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>why this is a pretty impressive place. I'll also joined

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<v Speaker 1>here by no other than one oh five three Zone

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Kavanaugh. Yeah, a man who I look to argue

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<v Speaker 1>with every day about players. He comes up and watches studies.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice to have you here. Jeffrey Brian likes to cheat,

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<v Speaker 1>cheat anytime he's losing. He points at a super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>football and says, hey, what about it? Yeah, twenty year

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<v Speaker 1>old super Bowl football. Yeah, you know it's okay. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the ring. That's all that matters. You do have the

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<v Speaker 1>Draft show. KNT Garrison, executive producer, with us today as always,

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<v Speaker 1>can't thank you for putting all this together. You guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to be back. Yes, I want to get into

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<v Speaker 1>this right off the bat. And when we start talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the draft, it looks like that through six weeks

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<v Speaker 1>of this NFL season, and we are a Dallas cowboy

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<v Speaker 1>based show, but we like to talk about everything. We'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to tell you how. We like to investigate and educate,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're going to do both today. But I want

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<v Speaker 1>to focus in on six weeks through this season, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's all harken back to those three days that we

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<v Speaker 1>were sitting at the Old Valley Ranch talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>draft and talking about what direction this football team might

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<v Speaker 1>be going, and talk about though how we all thought differently.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we had an idea about some of these players. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think most of the players, but the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys I want to focus as we start this show,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to focus on the ones that the Cowboys selected.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to go back, like I said, and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about to the thoughts that we had and now

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<v Speaker 1>what you know, and it's a six game sample, you

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<v Speaker 1>know it is. I mean, we're not going to sit

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<v Speaker 1>there an act like that. You know, like Bill ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>would say, you know, get the jackets out, get the

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<v Speaker 1>yellow jackets out. Yet you know, Kent, well, let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about these kids. Let's talk about what these kids

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<v Speaker 1>have done for this football team and how they've and

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<v Speaker 1>how they've used them. And I think you have to,

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<v Speaker 1>of course start and I don't know, I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>could start starting. I was gonna start with Ezeki Elliott,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you can kind of talk about, Hey, what

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<v Speaker 1>about Dak Prescott, what was he able to do? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's talk about what we thought. I'll go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll start with I'll go with Elliott. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you have to start. Yeah, Okay, when we were when

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about Ezeki Elliott, are we seeing are

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<v Speaker 1>we seeing the things, the traits, the characteristics of a

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<v Speaker 1>player that we saw there at Ohio State that some

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<v Speaker 1>of us, some of us thought, you know, hey would

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<v Speaker 1>be worthy of the top four pick. Some people said hey,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe defense and maybe not everybody in this room, but

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of discussion about that was the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth overall player worth it to take at running back?

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<v Speaker 1>And has he changed your mind about that? I'm gonna Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the tape watcher. I always try to defer to you,

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<v Speaker 1>but just think back when when did we first start

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Zeke? Like probably February, like really as a

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<v Speaker 1>serious Yeah, And from February on we talked about what

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke could do. Everything he was good at. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>most complete player with the fewest amount of weaknesses in

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<v Speaker 1>that draft, the fewest amount of question marks. We're wrong

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot of stuff, and we're gonna get into

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff that we were wrong about, but I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that. Oh, yeah, you have watched what we said

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<v Speaker 1>about this guy play out in blueprint fashion. It has

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<v Speaker 1>looked exactly like your wildest hopes could have looked. In

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, there were hiccups the New York game. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a great start for him, but over this five

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<v Speaker 1>game winning streak, he has looked every bit the beast

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<v Speaker 1>that we thought he would be when they took him

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<v Speaker 1>in the Jeff Kavanaugh complete back. Oh yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we knew that and I was probably I was

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<v Speaker 1>on team. I wouldn't have taken running back at four.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you wouldn't have taken a running back. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to. I didn't want to throw you two

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<v Speaker 1>under the bus. I remember the conversation, why why why

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<v Speaker 1>would you not want to? Now what's different? Now, go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and throw people as what we do. That's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I wait, I just want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that we remember where we were at on this journey. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what, he's been great. He's absolutely been

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<v Speaker 1>worth it. Uh, that wasn't They had picks where I

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<v Speaker 1>looked at it and I was like, man that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that was a good pick. And Zeke wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke Yes, second round, Zeke wasn't want to on that

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<v Speaker 1>second round fourth round. But ze Zeke wasn't one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just one of those where I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>the first clarify of that statement, I'm sorry the first one. Okay, ye,

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<v Speaker 1>that later Confederatory right story pick was great, No, but

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<v Speaker 1>with Zeke like it. It was one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>where they picked him and I said, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I get you want to maximize what your line does.

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<v Speaker 1>You just you want to dominate. I get it. I

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<v Speaker 1>would have been a Jalen Ramsey guy at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Would I flip it? It's tempting watching what Zeke's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>Dez isn't crazy. Zeke might go for two thousand yards.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he will, honestly, unless he gets hurt. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, watching him block, watching him, it's things that

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<v Speaker 1>we knew he could do. But to watch him actually

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<v Speaker 1>put it on the field and being over five yard

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<v Speaker 1>per carry back and to be that well around him,

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<v Speaker 1>to be the focal point of a five and one team,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty darn impressive. And I was with Jeff at first,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think as we went along and the thought

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<v Speaker 1>of Zeke behind this offensive line, the thought of Zeke

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<v Speaker 1>with this offense, of what he could do, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the thought of that just you became more okay with

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<v Speaker 1>taking running back top five because absolutely I was just

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<v Speaker 1>thinking the same way. The value is the value there,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with this teams their needs on defense. Different directions.

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<v Speaker 1>They could go, you're gonna really gonna take a running back?

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<v Speaker 1>Not your biggest need. You could argue running back wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>their top five needs. Are you really gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>running back top five? But as we went along closer

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<v Speaker 1>we got to April in the draft, I was on board,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's looking like a heck of a pick.

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<v Speaker 1>You could look at it now to get to ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of ourselves with Dac Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott. You can

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<v Speaker 1>make the argument they got two of the top five

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<v Speaker 1>players in this draft. So if you're okay, now that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thought, well, you go ahead ahead, you got something.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just and there was a good case to be

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<v Speaker 1>made for Jalen Ramsey by the time we got to

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<v Speaker 1>draft week. We had a good idea it would be

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<v Speaker 1>one of those two guys, and we know that was

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<v Speaker 1>the other guy they were thinking about sitting there at

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<v Speaker 1>number four. Jalen Ramsey's been pretty good, has he not.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been a good well eighteen tackles. Yeah, he is.

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<v Speaker 1>He a difference maker and what between whether this team

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<v Speaker 1>is five and one or not doing as well in

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Ramsey while he's playing well, I don't think you're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that reflected in the win loss record exactly. Where

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<v Speaker 1>with Ze exactly. I think you were absolutely right when

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<v Speaker 1>you said he had the fewest weaknesses, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>you know he is the complete complete back. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>tough to find holes in his game from running, the

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<v Speaker 1>blocking and receiving. It's all there. And hey, somebody said

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<v Speaker 1>this the other day. I'm one of the coaches. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>You can have a decision, work out, or you can

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<v Speaker 1>do something, and just because you were wrong doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>it was the right call, or just because you're right

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean it's the right call. I'm what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say is doing a bad job or calculating it.

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't most confusing. It was confusing. I apologize,

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<v Speaker 1>Let me try again. I still don't think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great call to take a running back in the top five,

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<v Speaker 1>just in terms of black and white draft logic, in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of what you're getting in value bank for your buck,

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't think that's that smart of a call.

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<v Speaker 1>There's gonna be there's gonna be a line of them

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<v Speaker 1>coming up this draft. Well, but do you think things

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna change now in people's mind out thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>still don't think it's a great call. But for this

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<v Speaker 1>team with these needs, with this personnel on hand, it

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<v Speaker 1>were and the players that were available, you know, best

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<v Speaker 1>pass rushers off the board, not a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 1>great pass rushers available, things like that, it worked out

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly for them. And I wonder how that changes people's

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<v Speaker 1>attitudes going forward, because, like I said, I still have

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<v Speaker 1>the same attitude about drafting and running back high as

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<v Speaker 1>I did then. It just worked out perfectly for this club,

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<v Speaker 1>and it'll be interesting. I think you alluded to it

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<v Speaker 1>with this draft class. Yeah, and that might be a

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<v Speaker 1>reason not to take a running back early because it

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<v Speaker 1>is so stacked or it will be as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>all these underclassmen. I mean, there might be ten to

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen underclassmen running backs who have a chance to be

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<v Speaker 1>drafted in the top two two and a half rounds.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how loaded this running back class could be.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you have a chance to get one of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys, why are you wasting the top ten pick

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<v Speaker 1>where you know, I don't think there's a Zeke in

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<v Speaker 1>this draft. I really don't. Okay, that's what I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ask you. That was gonna be my question about

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<v Speaker 1>running back and and and we'll make this quick if

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<v Speaker 1>is there a running back that is similar to him?

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<v Speaker 1>And would you or there running backs that are better?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Jeffrey, you watch a lot of the college

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<v Speaker 1>football stuff. I mean, we haven't got into our total

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<v Speaker 1>film study, but is there is there a running back?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, is the kid at Florida State? Is he?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? I mean, is he He's the top back?

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<v Speaker 1>I think what makes it different with Zeke? And we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this, compared Zeke to any class who want

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<v Speaker 1>to compare him too. It's just it's the well roundedness.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you can find guys that can run. Leonard Fournette

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<v Speaker 1>can run, Dalvin Cook can run. There's guys that can

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<v Speaker 1>run that are gonna be coming out. Dalvin Cook can pass.

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<v Speaker 1>Pro he ate Zeke. No, he can catch, but Leonard

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<v Speaker 1>Fournette He's not going to catch the ball like Zeke.

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke is a really special sort of package because you're

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<v Speaker 1>not talking about a power back but he's powerful. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not talking about a quickness, shifty back, but he's shifting.

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<v Speaker 1>Will people use the argument then that whoa wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is Cowboys had some success. Our team's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>fall on a trap with that, and they'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>to block. That's dependent. That plays into my point is

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<v Speaker 1>that it worked out amazingly for the Cowboys to draft Zeke.

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<v Speaker 1>But if if somebody takes Dalvin Cook in the top

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<v Speaker 1>ten and they don't have the personnel around him to

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<v Speaker 1>make him successful, it's not gonna work out. Hodd Girle's

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<v Speaker 1>doing nothing in Saint Louis right now in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good point. That can't block I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. Sorry Saint Louis. I don't see an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line though, isn't it really Yeah, Yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. That's why it's tough to take a running

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<v Speaker 1>back that high because he's dependent. Zeke's not doing this

0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:44.480
<v Speaker 1>if you don't have those five guys up front. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but doing He's also leading the league and yards out

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<v Speaker 1>of contact, so he is, you know, showing how special

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<v Speaker 1>he is. And I really don't think we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a running back in this upcoming class that will have

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<v Speaker 1>as high of a grade as Zeke or Gurley the

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<v Speaker 1>last two years. So you know, will we see four

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<v Speaker 1>net or Dalvin Coco top ten? It definitely possible, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on how the draft order plays out. But in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of overall draft grade and impact, I don't think we're

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<v Speaker 1>any of these guys are gonna be on the same

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<v Speaker 1>level as Zeke or Girly for that matter. I just

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<v Speaker 1>think it was it was a perfect storm that this

0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.079
<v Speaker 1>guy was the right guy to take it for and

0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:21.520
<v Speaker 1>it and credit to the Cowboys they recognize that. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's great draft strategy to take a

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<v Speaker 1>running back that high, but they knew in this situation

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<v Speaker 1>with the team they have on hand that it would

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<v Speaker 1>work out great. Gonna move past pick two thirty four,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Jalen Smith. Gonna move past that one. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to talk about, Well, no, you don't want

0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.440
<v Speaker 1>to talk about Jalen. Well, I'll tell you what it

0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.080
<v Speaker 1>affects what they do in this next draft, if in

0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.520
<v Speaker 1>fact all depends. I just feel like though that we

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<v Speaker 1>understand where he's at. That was a medical risk that

0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.480
<v Speaker 1>they took. On draft day, we all talked about him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, hey, hopefully for them. I mean, this class

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<v Speaker 1>could be incredible if Jaylen Smith in fact gets healthy

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<v Speaker 1>and plays to even the level that we've seen him play.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean that would be they stole one there

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<v Speaker 1>if that's but I think that's talk for another day.

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<v Speaker 1>We all, I think everybody had their say. I will

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<v Speaker 1>say this is that I was thinking about this when

0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:14.319
<v Speaker 1>we were preparing to do this show. Depending on Jalen Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker is either one of your biggest needs or your

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<v Speaker 1>biggest strong points going into the next draft. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>need to figure that out before the draft rules are out.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, yeah, I'll move on from that because I

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<v Speaker 1>think everybody's pretty much documented what they thought. I mean,

0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:29.600
<v Speaker 1>there might be some folks new for the draft show.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not a fan of the pick myself. You

0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.800
<v Speaker 1>can go back and listen to hours and hours. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was I thought it was a very

0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.800
<v Speaker 1>questionable pick. But the fact that the owner is the

0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.880
<v Speaker 1>general manager, he can make that call. Brian brought us

0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:43.680
<v Speaker 1>sit in Tampa Bay with his you know, think about

0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:45.680
<v Speaker 1>how he's gonna pay for his lake house for retirement.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't make that call one to be fair, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the rule of thumb is three years out before we

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<v Speaker 1>truly judge these rookies, right, so you know we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>talking about yeah, yeah, exactly. It's we're just here talking

0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:58.720
<v Speaker 1>about these players. It's never too early with the skill

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<v Speaker 1>sets that we've seen. But with Smith, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>wait and see. It's totally what to wait and see.

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<v Speaker 1>Is MALIEK. Collins? He would be your pick three sixty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about what you see. MALIEK. Collins a starter? Now

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<v Speaker 1>playing is a playing? Is the one plays the three?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you felt like, you know, he's a guy that

0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.199
<v Speaker 1>has come in has given him a little bit. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you know, he's I remember him at Nebraska

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<v Speaker 1>being really good in the twist game, active high school wrestler.

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<v Speaker 1>What about MALIEK. Collins? So, Jeff, you followed football team

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<v Speaker 1>every day. I think MALIEK. Collins fits in with sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a theme of this football team, which is Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Romo makes a lot of money and you haven't. He

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't really helped you this year where you're going. Des

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<v Speaker 1>Bryant makes a lot of money, he's been hurt. Tyrone

0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Crawford makes a lot of money. Other people who've been

0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:46.880
<v Speaker 1>getting a lot of his snaps, he's been getting moved around.

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<v Speaker 1>This team has done a great job of getting guys

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<v Speaker 1>that aren't making a bunch of money that are making

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of plays for the football team, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the defensive tackle group is at the very,

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<v Speaker 1>very very top of it. Joe McClain and MALIEK. Collins, Like,

0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.440
<v Speaker 1>that's your best combination at defensive tackle. Once a third

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<v Speaker 1>round rookie that was hurt in camp. One's a guy

0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.360
<v Speaker 1>who's never been healthy. Yeah, and those two guys, I mean,

0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and they're doing better than a four year, seventeen million

0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.959
<v Speaker 1>dollar free agent and a five year, forty five million

0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:14.160
<v Speaker 1>dollar extension. Yeah. And you know, but you look around

0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the league and sometimes the deals you signed turn out great.

0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they don't. But I do think it's a credit

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<v Speaker 1>to finding the guys that don't make a lot that

0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:25.200
<v Speaker 1>are making your football team be five and one, And MALIEK.

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<v Speaker 1>Collins is one of them. Just for point of reference,

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<v Speaker 1>on the Dallas Cowboy draft board, MALIEK. Collins was their

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<v Speaker 1>number one player in the top of the third round.

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<v Speaker 1>So where they took him at three sixty seven, that

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<v Speaker 1>would be right, that's they they're falling their board right there.

0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.160
<v Speaker 1>That's the He was the number one player on their

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<v Speaker 1>board in the third round, and he fits Rod Bernelli

0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.240
<v Speaker 1>to a team he does. Okay, where where'd you have him?

0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Did you thought I think we had him? I think, Jeff,

0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.520
<v Speaker 1>do we I've got the board hole. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>had him in the third round? Our guy. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>had him late third round, So I thought sixty seven

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<v Speaker 1>was a little early for him and not a rich

0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.520
<v Speaker 1>not a huge reach at all by any means. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I thought there were better players on the board.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I think he's played okay to this point, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have that in front of Yeah? Third, third round? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the next one. I want to talk about defensive

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<v Speaker 1>end at four one oh one, that'd be Charles Tapper.

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<v Speaker 1>For point of reference, though, they had him as the

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<v Speaker 1>their sixth best player on the on the board in

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth round. And actually they're gonna get to a

0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:26.960
<v Speaker 1>player that they had higher than him. But we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that guy here in a little bit later. What

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<v Speaker 1>about on defense? Where was he on defense? He would

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<v Speaker 1>be They had Jones, Cyrus Jones, Drake was on I'm sorry, Yeah,

0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:43.160
<v Speaker 1>they had Jones Drake Connor McGovern, Farrell Cooper Farrell Cooper receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Anthony Brown and Charles Tapper. Okay, so hey

0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:51.240
<v Speaker 1>they still they still had third rounders available at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the question. Ronald Blair, Right, Ronald Blair was

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<v Speaker 1>a guy. And see that's what's amazing to me is

0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.520
<v Speaker 1>when you look, I mean you look at Ronald Blair

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<v Speaker 1>was on the board and that surprised me with that

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<v Speaker 1>was the pick that I went hmmm M And then

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<v Speaker 1>all of son, I see, oh wait, Ronald Blair was

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<v Speaker 1>on the board and they have him in the third round.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're sitting there going, wait a minute, how well

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<v Speaker 1>who why did they jump? Why did they jump Ronald

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<v Speaker 1>Blair with Charles Tapper? Maybe they thought Blair was an

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<v Speaker 1>inside guy and they thought they'd kind of address that

0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:23.160
<v Speaker 1>third round on the board. Yeah, but either way, like

0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Ronald Blair was a defensive they had they had a MALIEK.

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<v Speaker 1>Collins as a defensive tackle all the way, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>what did they see Blair as a defensive end? Okay, then,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I thought he was a better player anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Now that I agree, the Tapper thing is not it's

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<v Speaker 1>really it's not like it's anybody's fault. It's a medical

0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.600
<v Speaker 1>thing that everyone missed at the combine. Because that's a

0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:46.000
<v Speaker 1>surprising thing that they cannot. They cannot MRI every single

0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.880
<v Speaker 1>player combine. That's that's the problem. I thought that was

0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.080
<v Speaker 1>the whole point of the combine. Oh, they cannot if

0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.880
<v Speaker 1>you haven't existing injury. The whole point of the combine

0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:55.480
<v Speaker 1>is that you're supposed to get checked out. That's why

0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.400
<v Speaker 1>they do it across the street from a hospital. I mean,

0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.640
<v Speaker 1>that is the main reason it is in Indianapolis, because

0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.080
<v Speaker 1>they do have the medical equipment to do as many

0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.840
<v Speaker 1>guys as they do, but obviously all three hundred and

0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.639
<v Speaker 1>thirty can't get the same evaluation. Yeah, and so for

0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:09.800
<v Speaker 1>a guy like Tapper, who he didn't miss a game

0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.600
<v Speaker 1>in the last three years at Oklahoma. So right, like,

0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.359
<v Speaker 1>why would you get an MRI if you don't think

0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.840
<v Speaker 1>any Right? I mean, these in these colleges with all

0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.320
<v Speaker 1>the with the hippo laws and all that, they're not

0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:21.600
<v Speaker 1>give any information like they did in nineteen ninety two

0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:23.920
<v Speaker 1>when I went rolling through schools. They're not very they're

0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:25.920
<v Speaker 1>not three play did you play it fast and loose

0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit? Right? When you went to the school, like, hey,

0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:31.760
<v Speaker 1>come on tell him, Oh no, absolutely, school visits used

0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:34.520
<v Speaker 1>to be really really cool. Now it's kind of like, hey,

0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:38.359
<v Speaker 1>we ain't telling you crap down. So with with Tapper, though,

0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I do think that is a way thing we see. Yes,

0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a waiting stage, and that's disappointing in my In

0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.520
<v Speaker 1>my mind, it is a little disappointing. And again, I

0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:50.120
<v Speaker 1>know he has the precondition all that stuff, but they

0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.560
<v Speaker 1>sure could use a defensive end in this rotation. It

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<v Speaker 1>may be a little bit unfair to do this because

0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:56.639
<v Speaker 1>he's been hurt and it's not about his play. But

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like when they picked Tapper, I've seen this

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<v Speaker 1>pick before. You picked Ryan Russell. Yeah, the guy who

0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:03.919
<v Speaker 1>was in a three four that you looked at him

0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, man, he measures well and I think

0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:07.719
<v Speaker 1>he could be a good four three end And so

0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:09.680
<v Speaker 1>for me, I didn't think they picked the best player there.

0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it was one of those things where the

0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys will do this project, get a guy they'll get

0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.240
<v Speaker 1>two rounds later and be like, man, where could there

0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:19.200
<v Speaker 1>be a home run? Instead of picking the best player,

0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Ronald Blair was a better football player, which Charles Tapper

0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:23.640
<v Speaker 1>had a great forty time and it's like, man, what

0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.919
<v Speaker 1>could he do coming off the edge. Maybe he'll do

0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.320
<v Speaker 1>something great And one on one feels way too early

0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:30.399
<v Speaker 1>for me to be doing stuff like that. What did

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<v Speaker 1>you think about Tapper? I'm trying to remember. I liked him.

0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:34.639
<v Speaker 1>He was in my top one hundred. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>was like number ninety six, ninety So you're okay with

0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.359
<v Speaker 1>the pick when it happened, I was. Again, durability was

0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.119
<v Speaker 1>not a question with Charles Tapper. You know again he

0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:43.920
<v Speaker 1>was playing a little bit out of position in at Oklahoma.

0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:46.920
<v Speaker 1>He was in that frog stance two gap didn't really

0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.719
<v Speaker 1>it didn't fit into four three like that defensive end

0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:51.440
<v Speaker 1>with a quick all. The thing was, I think that's

0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.000
<v Speaker 1>forty times in the four five four five was right.

0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.639
<v Speaker 1>He was really good. He was misused at Oklahoma, and

0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.359
<v Speaker 1>so Cowboys saw that and said, okay, he can you know,

0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.040
<v Speaker 1>he can play end for us, but we just haven't

0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.320
<v Speaker 1>had a chance to see it yet. Pick four one

0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.280
<v Speaker 1>thirty five. Here's the kicker right here, boys, we got

0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.600
<v Speaker 1>we drafted a kicker, Daig one big. This is this

0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.640
<v Speaker 1>is why, this is the thing right here that will

0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.040
<v Speaker 1>get you a contract extension. If you can pull this

0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:17.840
<v Speaker 1>one off. Yeah, Dak Prescott, credit to this organization. Oh

0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:21.480
<v Speaker 1>here we go, rain, but there you go. Raise your

0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.360
<v Speaker 1>hand if at the time you said, great pick, Dak

0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Prescott was the number quarterback number what can everybody? No,

0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:31.080
<v Speaker 1>no said, Let me let me tell you what they

0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:35.240
<v Speaker 1>had Jeff Driscoll ahead of Dak Prescy. Jacoby Brissette. Jacoby

0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Brissette was a third round player on their board. Connor Cook.

0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:40.399
<v Speaker 1>Connor Cook was a second round player. Lynch wins golf,

0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.320
<v Speaker 1>of course, so exactly. And so if say the Raiders

0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.000
<v Speaker 1>don't trade up to pick one hundred sick one on one,

0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.800
<v Speaker 1>can we go back to that? It's probably the draft

0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.040
<v Speaker 1>gods smiled on past Happer was gonna be Connor Cook,

0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:55.119
<v Speaker 1>who none of us liked. Right right in the fourth

0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:56.920
<v Speaker 1>round we were I think we're okay with it, but

0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I would have I would have jumped out the window

0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.960
<v Speaker 1>if they drafted I think Cook ahead of Yes, Scott

0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:06.680
<v Speaker 1>did on our board. Yes we did in the fourth round. Yes,

0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:08.880
<v Speaker 1>but we had Connor Cook in the fourth round. Yes,

0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:12.159
<v Speaker 1>all right, Can I admit it? It's okay? It hurts,

0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:14.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, you get over the pain, you deliver the

0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:17.280
<v Speaker 1>baby like everybody was wrong on Dak Prescott. I don't

0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:20.800
<v Speaker 1>think you guys everybody. I think you guys are misremembering. Honestly,

0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I think you guys deserved to give yourself a little

0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:24.520
<v Speaker 1>bit more crap. Obviously, nobody we talked about him in

0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:26.520
<v Speaker 1>mock drafts and some of those mock drafts we did.

0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:28.440
<v Speaker 1>We did, and I'm not but I didn't pick. We

0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:32.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't hate. We just didn't see this coming. No, I'm nobody.

0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:36.560
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying was coming when you watch draft great.

0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Dak Prescott. He impressed me so much with

0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.679
<v Speaker 1>his poise, his leadership, the way your Bowl was a

0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:44.800
<v Speaker 1>good good we were all there for the Senior Bowl

0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and all this. He is a perfect example of not

0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:50.479
<v Speaker 1>everybody's a great practice player. Oh I say that all

0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:52.640
<v Speaker 1>the time, don't David. He's a perfect example that because

0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:58.879
<v Speaker 1>it maybe Jim Anyway immobile. Dak Prescott was the third

0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.840
<v Speaker 1>best quarterback there that he saw that week. Cody Kessler

0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.119
<v Speaker 1>looked like you shouldn't have been. Yeah, Burston Wentz was

0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the best quarterback we saw down there. Jack Prescott. He

0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.560
<v Speaker 1>won the game MVP, but during the week of practice,

0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:15.640
<v Speaker 1>good in the in the game. I remember the EJ.

0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Manuel once won the game, MVP and the Senior Bowl.

0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:20.560
<v Speaker 1>So right, Dane, don't get a wet blanket. Guys, I'm

0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:23.960
<v Speaker 1>just saying back to my original point about practice. You know,

0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:26.680
<v Speaker 1>not everyone's even in training camp. Dak Prescott didn't like

0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:28.680
<v Speaker 1>the world. I wholly agree with you on that. He

0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:33.280
<v Speaker 1>was not good at camp until until the game started happening,

0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the Rams game being the first, but those right after

0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Kellamore got hurt. He actually I forgot about this until

0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:42.240
<v Speaker 1>um Pete Thamil wrote the Sports illustrative feature on him.

0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:43.960
<v Speaker 1>That was a gentleman that was here asking us, and

0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:46.360
<v Speaker 1>it was a good story. If you haven't read it, Yeah,

0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:50.000
<v Speaker 1>he dropped his first snap as the starter when you

0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:52.959
<v Speaker 1>know where you know, after Kellamore got hurt, he dropped

0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:55.399
<v Speaker 1>the ball and everyone I remember watching it and being like,

0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:58.560
<v Speaker 1>oh boy, we're in for a long year. There were

0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:00.560
<v Speaker 1>days before I got to camp where Pete we're telling

0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:02.040
<v Speaker 1>it brought us would call in or we talked to

0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:03.720
<v Speaker 1>other people who were at camp would say. It would

0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:05.560
<v Speaker 1>go back and forth like hey, who had the better day,

0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Jamil Showers or Dak Prescott when the answer was different

0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:11.199
<v Speaker 1>each day. It took the guy six seconds to get

0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:13.240
<v Speaker 1>the ball out more often than not. I'll tell you

0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:16.639
<v Speaker 1>what though. Scouts will admit this too. The coaches pushed

0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 1>for Prescott. Oh yeah, scouts thought they had Prescott and

0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Jamil Showers. But here's here's the funny thing. And nobody,

0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:24.960
<v Speaker 1>the coaches some credit on this one. Nobody could have

0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:29.040
<v Speaker 1>ever produced at one thirty five. That's the crazy thing

0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.200
<v Speaker 1>is I remember while was sitting in that studio on

0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:33.639
<v Speaker 1>draft day, we were like, you gotta this quarterback at

0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:36.960
<v Speaker 1>one thirty five. That's an insane value. Nobody saw this coming,

0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:39.520
<v Speaker 1>but that was a great pick. Before he let the one,

0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:41.120
<v Speaker 1>I think we were surprised that he didn't go one

0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:43.320
<v Speaker 1>on one. Yeah, I think because we knew we were

0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:45.800
<v Speaker 1>speculating about it. When Tapper came off the board, we

0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:47.880
<v Speaker 1>were like, well, we know they just wanted Cook, they

0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:50.920
<v Speaker 1>want that quarterback. Yeah we mocked him one on one. Yeah,

0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:53.720
<v Speaker 1>we mocked him one one. No other team did more

0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.080
<v Speaker 1>work on a player, there's no doubt about and the

0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys on Dak Prescott, all the visits, all the meetings,

0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and it's easy. I think it's easy for

0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:03.399
<v Speaker 1>coaches to fall in love with the player like this.

0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you talk about the poisy intelligence. What he's

0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.959
<v Speaker 1>done in the SEC is outstanding. The resumes there. But

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 1>going back to his tape study, I mean, Jeff and

0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I were talking about this earlier. Did we really miss

0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:18.880
<v Speaker 1>hint on him when the tape didn't show this? I mean,

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:20.399
<v Speaker 1>you watch him, can't make you? Yeah, you see, you

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:23.560
<v Speaker 1>gotta stay with your eyes. You gotta what you see.

0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:29.919
<v Speaker 1>Watch him against Alabama against LSU. I think those remember well,

0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:32.960
<v Speaker 1>But maybe about the game in Startville last year. Is

0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 1>a senior l won that game? Yeah, Dak Prescott could

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:37.680
<v Speaker 1>not he he had a few mistakes down the stretch

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 1>that cost them that game, including a play clock air.

0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:44.200
<v Speaker 1>If I remember correctly. Against Alabama, he was fifty percent completions.

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Alabama is the closest thing in college that you're going

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:50.600
<v Speaker 1>to see doing And so you know, I know, Dad,

0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 1>he had a great career in Misissippi States said all

0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:56.479
<v Speaker 1>types of records. He's very productive. The completion percentage went

0:23:56.520 --> 0:23:59.120
<v Speaker 1>up every single year. I didn't see the ball placement

0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:01.560
<v Speaker 1>on film that we're seeing now, and that to me

0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:03.640
<v Speaker 1>blows my mind. Okay, we saw the poys, we saw

0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the leadership, we saw the athleticism, the strong arm, the

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 1>ball placement is near pinpoint. And for a quarterback to

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>take that jump from college even in the SEC, to

0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:16.920
<v Speaker 1>the NFL and improve their accuracy like Dak is doing,

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's unbelievable. And you know what, Sorry, but

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:21.879
<v Speaker 1>you know what I've thought about during the lead up

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:24.919
<v Speaker 1>to this is and obviously there's no real workaround for

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:27.119
<v Speaker 1>this in the NFL. You gotta get your guys snaps.

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:30.159
<v Speaker 1>But how much does just getting to practice mean for

0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 1>these guys? You know? I mean, sure Dak would have

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:35.359
<v Speaker 1>gotten what like two snaps per practice if things had

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 1>played out the way they were supposed to. There's no

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:41.120
<v Speaker 1>telling how far behind he might be things worked out.

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:43.760
<v Speaker 1>You give a guy thirty snaps a day to get

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:45.680
<v Speaker 1>better over the course of a month, I mean that

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:48.639
<v Speaker 1>can pay dividends. Yeah, I just I'm amazed though the

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 1>journey for this guy. Let me ask you this real

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:55.359
<v Speaker 1>quick though, before we leave from Dak Prescott, if you

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:58.359
<v Speaker 1>had to redraft, as I'm about to ask you, Yeah,

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 1>if you had to redraft, could you from just from

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:03.879
<v Speaker 1>six games? Okay, this is a terrible thing to do.

0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:05.639
<v Speaker 1>I get it, but we're just having fun on the

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 1>draft show. Can you put him in the conversation with

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>the top three quarterbacks that were on the board, you

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:13.719
<v Speaker 1>have to how do you not? I mean, all right?

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 1>And then who is he better than? Yeah? I mean

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Lynch was my guy. Well, my guy's not fair. Guys,

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.919
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't gotten to play the guy. He's not fair.

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:24.200
<v Speaker 1>He's the second quarterback off the board. Do you think

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 1>he goes Wins. I think he probably still goes behind Wentz.

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:28.720
<v Speaker 1>I think at the Cowboys, the Cowboys had Wins is

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.879
<v Speaker 1>their number one quarterback, knowing what they knew now, I

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:35.440
<v Speaker 1>wonder if they would trade the opportunity to pick Wins

0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 1>over Prescott, knowing what they know right now, ask him,

0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>pretend to ask him, and then tell us. You get

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:41.639
<v Speaker 1>to if the way they have it right now, they

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't give up anything to get these guys, right, why

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:45.199
<v Speaker 1>don't you just stay with what you No, no no, no, no,

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, if if you, if you said, okay

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>right now, you could trade your number one quarterback for

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback you currently have. I don't think they would

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>do that, and I think the coaches would not allow

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:59.120
<v Speaker 1>it to happen. Yeah, I think they love this quarterback

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:01.880
<v Speaker 1>so much. Wow. Not only that, I think his demeanor

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 1>plus I mean not that it's a huge part of

0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:06.360
<v Speaker 1>their game, but the read option stuff that he can

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>do with Zeke every single I think he's perfect. And

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 1>that's another thing. He's just so perfectly. Seventh best player

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 1>on their board. Everything they're trying to do. Credit to

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Lynahan and the offensive staff well overall and with oh wins, yeah,

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:22.640
<v Speaker 1>wins win and the seventh best player on their board.

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Golf was top tennis, right, Golf was not. He was

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:28.800
<v Speaker 1>top fifteen, number seven. No, he's I take that back,

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:32.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Floyd was eight, Golf was nine. Okay, So

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:34.680
<v Speaker 1>yeah they were. They were still high on golf their

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>number two quarterback not too far from Wentz. And I

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:39.359
<v Speaker 1>had both Wentz and Golf as top ten players on

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 1>my overall board as well. So you know, if if

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>we had a red draft today, Prescott, I think he's

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 1>going top five. And it's just a matter of do

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:50.440
<v Speaker 1>you take Wins you take Prescott. You remember the lead

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:53.159
<v Speaker 1>up to the draft when we talk about quarterbacks are different.

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:55.160
<v Speaker 1>You have to evaluate them differently. You have to term

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 1>in their worth. Differently, Dak could theoretically flame out Kaepernick

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 1>style and just not be the same player three years

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 1>from now as he is right now. But based on

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>what you six games we're talking, based on what you've seen,

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I think you have to roll with the chance that

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:10.679
<v Speaker 1>he's going to keep it going because that's how important

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>a good quarterback is. You. I mean, if if this

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>was possible where you could redraft and that was a

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:17.360
<v Speaker 1>real thing, I think you have to take the chance

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>that this guy's going to be a beast because it

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 1>would mean that much if he is. So you're saying

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 1>he has a first round grade, then sure, no, I

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:25.679
<v Speaker 1>think I think you have to. And the final line

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 1>on my Dak Prescott report was has the traits to

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:32.199
<v Speaker 1>secure a backup job in the NFL capable of spot starts. Yea,

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 1>And I mean that's you're honest. You're an honest man.

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>If you were the only one, I might make fun

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 1>of you. But I think that was a pretty fine

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.119
<v Speaker 1>notes here say that I would probably take him in

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 1>the first and I bet he wins five of his

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>first Whoever takes him is getting a gym. There you go,

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>all right, no pick in the fifth that goes to Oakland,

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>no pick in the six that goes to Kansas City

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:02.160
<v Speaker 1>through San Francisco. Sixth round pick were one eighty nine

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown, cornerback Perdue. Damn. I got yelled at when

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 1>this pick happened. I was broadcasting on one to five

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 1>three and you and Kat were pumped. The pick came

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 1>in and we were celebrating. Instead of letting somebody get

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>the clean read of in the sixth round they select that.

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>We were just like yes, because that was a guy

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 1>that we really liked when we watched him. Anthony Brown

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 1>at Purdue was I thought he put really good tape together.

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Third round grade. Yeah, you had him as a third

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 1>round grade. It's not that he never got beat. It's

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>that you had a guy there that you watched him

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:33.880
<v Speaker 1>play z own, You watched him play man. You watched

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>the guy that knew what he was doing when the

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>ball was in the air. He knew how to play

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 1>a football. He was physical, he could make open field tackles.

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I thought everything about him led to getting picked on

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>the second day of the draft, and so to get

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>him in the sixth round, we thought that was great value.

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 1>When it happened, oh, yeah, sixth round, right, got one? Yeah,

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 1>one right, Yeah. I think we all agreed on him.

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>He was a terrific value. I mean terrific player, but

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the value just well, the boundary. He played boundary corner

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>at Perdue. I'll remember that. Play boundary corner. You usually

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>used the sideline to help you cover. I would have

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>never thought a boundary corner could be really good in

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>the slot. But he's really good in the slot and

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 1>running to four three helps three three athlete and he

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>is and he's I'll tell you what though. He What

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>he is that Scandrick's not is he is a tackler. Now.

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he could cover as well as Scandrick.

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you can do that. But when you

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 1>start playing dime here coming up real soon again, when

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Scanner gets down in the field, put Scandrick one slot

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>him and the other you can play. You can take

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>JJ Wilcox off the field. Now you get your pretty

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:30.719
<v Speaker 1>goottle dime pack. That's what you loved about Brown? What

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 1>was his physicality and night That's also what you kind

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>of didn't like about him, because he got caught with

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>his hand in the cookie jar a little bit much

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>in coverage, but a very physical guy. And with those

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 1>dimensions five eleven four three three athlete, good arm length,

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>that's a perfect player to take it in that point

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 1>the drift. He's got a bandage on his head right

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>now after this Green Bay game. I gotta assume it's

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>got something to do with making ten tackles. Yeah, he's

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>not afraid to stick his face hanging and heads out there. Okay,

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get ready, take a break. I'll just go

0:29:56.680 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 1>through Cavon Frazier hasn't really done anything, but he's been

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>active for a few games exactly. Darius Jackson the running back,

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:07.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's one of those ones you look at first

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen when we start talking about this running back situation.

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Rico Gathers was the pick at six round at two seventeen.

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Hearing really good things about him on the practice squad.

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>A matter of fact, that they guaranteed his first year's salary.

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>So he's making first year rookie, mean, not the normal

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and seventeen thousand dollars that you can make.

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>He's making like four fifty something, So yeah, that's a

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 1>big deal. They guaranteed him a year a rookie year

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:38.040
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<v Speaker 1>and you know what, and that's so those are guys downline.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, well that's a review of the Cowboys draft.

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<v Speaker 1>We got all kinds of feedback after the draft of

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0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:54.040
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0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 1>is to uh once the season ends, to get back

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<v Speaker 1>into the Draft Show in January, right around the Senior

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl time, all of us will find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>mosey on down to Mobile and Cowboys unless the Cowboys, yeah,

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 1>well we might well don't sell them short. Yeah I'm

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>not gonna sell him short. Shouldn't do that. But with sometime,

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll start after the Senior Bowl time busting

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>on you and make sure we have your coverage too

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 1>from the combine. We'll be there for that, but it'll

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 1>be a weekly thing every Friday. If you're new to

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 1>the Draft Show, we do thank you for being a

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<v Speaker 1>part of what we do and I hope we bring

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 1>you the like I say, to educate you on what

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.840
<v Speaker 1>is all NFL draut Okay for before the break, I

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 1>teased about the who was a player that you were

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>very very high on that you're happy with and then

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 1>give me a guy through six games or you know

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>that you're kind of like, maybe I was a little

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>a little off on that one. In a tiny gym,

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:50.959
<v Speaker 1>I will give you the first crack at this all right, Well,

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>considering how we started the draft show last year, if

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 1>you remember, I know you two should remember how much

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I love Lakwan Treadwell, Yeah, I'm gonna let Jeff talk

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.320
<v Speaker 1>about him in more detail. But I just want everyone

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm well aware that he is not featuring that was

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>that was a bad one on my part. Usually you

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 1>don't like old miss people. I don't, but I love

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 1>the and I mean it's six games in. I got

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 1>faith in my guy. But he but he yeah, he's

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 1>off for a lot of guys. He's the one though,

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 1>that you would probably be the most disheartened about, right Yeah,

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 1>just in terms of the fact that he hasn't logged

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:23.840
<v Speaker 1>a stat as of yet. Yeah one, And I didn't

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>love this guy, but I just we we got to

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:27.720
<v Speaker 1>throw it out there, I think. And I've talked about

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 1>this on Twitter. Joey Bosa uh Dane's guy Joey Bosa. Uh,

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.399
<v Speaker 1>what's up, Brian? What was that about public in? I mean,

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>why that's not I'm not trying to throw Brian under

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 1>the bus here. I just remember every week when we

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 1>would come into this studio, it was the slam Joey

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 1>Bosa and not coming from you, right, the listeners just

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>it turned into get that guy away from me. I

0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:57.360
<v Speaker 1>don't want him on art. Oh you, Dane did a

0:35:57.440 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>nice job of defending Joey Bosa and I and I

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>again and you I before people come at me. I

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 1>went back and listened to these shows and I was

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 1>never slamming the table trying to call this guy in

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 1>all pro but I just eventually got fed up and

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is a good player. He is

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 1>worthy of being a top ten pick. You guys need

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 1>to calm down. And sure enough, after a very lengthy,

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:20.360
<v Speaker 1>annoying holdout, he goes out there and he's balling for

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 1>San Diego. He looks every bit the type of player

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>that you draft in the top five. So that's one.

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, I feel good for Joey Bosa that he's

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:31.719
<v Speaker 1>that he's delivering. Based on how much criticism he gets. Yeah,

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just went back and I talked to

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 1>some people in the front office. They had no intention

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 1>of taking Joey Bosa. Oh for sure, I mean that,

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 1>but that if people were looking, if you were a

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Joey Bosa fan out there of the draft show, and

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 1>you light Joey Bosa and you believe and yeah, and

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's there. That's the what they'll have to wear.

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:50.919
<v Speaker 1>You talked about. Joey Bosa's played in two games. He's

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 1>had five tackles, two sacks. So two games, two sacks.

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 1>That's a pretty good percentage right there. But the Cowboys

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>had no intention of taking Joey Bosa. And because it

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 1>came down, if it had come down to defensive players,

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:08.359
<v Speaker 1>it was Ramsey or Bosa would have been on the board.

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Ramsey was their second best player and Bosa was their

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 1>fourth best. Part. It was interesting about their board. Laramie

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.799
<v Speaker 1>Tunsel was their third best player on their board. Yeah,

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>that shows you, right, that's not window dressing right there.

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 1>For if you have a we're gonna take a billion

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 1>dollar offensive line and you put Jay and you put

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Laramie Tunsel as your third best player, you're not window

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.839
<v Speaker 1>dressing your board. I don't think they take him, they'll

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 1>turn that in. Yeah. But but but they have it,

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>they have him on their board, so I mean, you know,

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 1>there's that possible. There was a low chance that the

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 1>first three picks we're going to be or the first

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, two of the first three picks we're going

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>to be Zeke and uh Ramsey. So they knew they

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 1>were a good chance they were gonna get either of

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 1>those two guys. Jeffrey Cavanall, Oh, man, I don't want

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:56.799
<v Speaker 1>to do it. This is through six games. Yeah, you

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 1>can do it, though, but if anybody wants a piece

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 1>of me, if anybody wants to tweet at JC one

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 1>oh five three, if you want to take shots at

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>my guy, that's fine because now is a good time

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 1>to take shots at my guy. But twelve years from now,

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:09.800
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna look back and Jared Goff is going to

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>be really good in the NFL. But man, it's hard

0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>to uh, it's hard to be really excited about the

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 1>guy that I said, this is my quarterback, this's my

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>number one quarterback, and with all of the rookies that

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 1>are playing and having some success, they're not even putting

0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:24.359
<v Speaker 1>him on the field right now. So it's hard not

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:26.399
<v Speaker 1>to say Jared Goff is the game having at least

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 1>at that point, they're having success with not playing him. Yeah,

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>but still, but that's what I but I mean to see.

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Paxton Lynch went in and had something. There's

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 1>there's quarterback quarterbacks playing right now. Yeah, there's lots of them,

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 1>and one of them couldn't be active at first, and

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 1>now he can't find the field. Even though case Keenum

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 1>occasionally is having a good game, it's still you know,

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 1>for somebody that I was banging the drum four through

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:52.360
<v Speaker 1>six games, it doesn't look good on his struggles in

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 1>the preseason I think are a part of this as well,

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:57.880
<v Speaker 1>because even though he hasn't had a chance to prove himself,

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 1>he struggled in the preseason. Um wasn't all bad. He

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 1>had some good moments, but more bad than good, especially

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>for a number one overall pick. So he's a perfect

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 1>example of why you know, we wait three years ideally

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 1>to judge these guys. Because I still believe in Jared Goff,

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:16.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just like you, you know, we're not

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 1>giving up on the evaluation yet. No, I still think

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be a good draft show. We're just talking

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:23.799
<v Speaker 1>about it. But uh yeah, through six games, that's the one,

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 1>that's the one that bothers you the most, right just

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 1>right now? Wait, so yeah, I mean it's more than LaQuan.

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Uh No, I would say LaQuan worries me more long term,

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Like I still think Jared Goff is gonna make it LaQuan.

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing about were we so wrong about him?

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm looking at my top fifty and Laquon Treadwell's

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 1>physical profile says bust. It says it if you if

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 1>you follow the numbers, guys and you measure his athletic Yeah,

0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 1>it was sap and not look at the number. I know,

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 1>and that's what I trusted too. But I like, I

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 1>want to I want all of it. I want to

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 1>know everything I can. And we spent six months calling

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>him baby Daz. Yeah that wasn't a bust. But the

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 1>key was what Dane said about him was less explosive Dez.

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:06.319
<v Speaker 1>And it turns out if you're a little slower quite

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:08.880
<v Speaker 1>as good after the catch, maybe that's not enough. Like

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Dez isn't a guy that's gonna get six yards open

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:13.959
<v Speaker 1>on a route, and Treadwell looks like he is less

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 1>than that and so so far it looks like it's trouble.

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 1>And when scouting the receiver position, it comes down to

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:23.759
<v Speaker 1>two main things. Can you get open and can you

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 1>catch the ball? He can do the number two thing

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:29.560
<v Speaker 1>really well. Yeah, number one thing that I think he's

0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:31.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna have some trouble with right now because he's not

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 1>an above average route runner and so he's thrived on

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 1>his physicality and his ball skills up to this point.

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:42.319
<v Speaker 1>He needs to refine his route running and you know,

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:46.239
<v Speaker 1>just really get better in that separation part getting open.

0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 1>So another guy that you know, we're not going to

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 1>give up on. But it's been a struggle for him

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.400
<v Speaker 1>so far. And it happens a lot of receivers that

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 1>jump even from the SEC. It's tough, especially when you're

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:58.800
<v Speaker 1>facing more press coverage, guys that are on top of

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:02.359
<v Speaker 1>you twenty four seven. So yeah, disappointing start for him.

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Well for Bather and these two guys on this page right, well,

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that's the guy I'm gonna go too. Next is the

0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 1>guy on the bottom there. The guy that I think

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>we had him right was Sterling Shepherd. The only thing

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:13.400
<v Speaker 1>we had wrong was for the amount of praise we

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:15.359
<v Speaker 1>gave him. We talked about him like a first round player.

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 1>The only stake we made was not going ahead and

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:18.799
<v Speaker 1>saying it like we had him right there at the

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 1>top of two yea one. I know on our board

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 1>we did. We had him the top of the second round.

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:24.000
<v Speaker 1>And when I went back, I'm thinking, oh, man, we

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:25.719
<v Speaker 1>had that guy in the first round because I know

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 1>so we had him over will Fuller. We did, and

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people, even on member on draft Day

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 1>when they drafted will Fuller, I'm going, well, they you

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 1>know they, you know, Houston, they've got it. There's a

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.280
<v Speaker 1>better guy up there, you know, hey. But will Fuller

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 1>is doing his thing too. He's having a nice season.

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 1>He's doing what we thought he will. Will Fuller's my guy.

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 1>He's making big catch guys that I missed on. He's

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 1>making big plays and twenty catches, three twenty seven yards,

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 1>two touchdown. Are you were you wrong? Though? Because I

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:53.840
<v Speaker 1>think and I'm not a Houston Texans expert, but it

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 1>seems like he's doing the stuff we knew he could do. Right.

0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:59.319
<v Speaker 1>It's not like he's playing a different sort of game.

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, his hand and they're not great. He's fast,

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:05.720
<v Speaker 1>he can get open, which I think he's a body catcher. Yeah, exactly,

0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's where I struggle with receivers that aren't

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 1>natural hands catchers. It really worries. I'm with you on that,

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:13.360
<v Speaker 1>and so it's it's a balance because he is an

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:16.800
<v Speaker 1>explosive athlete who can take the top off a defense

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 1>good luck you know in man covers trying to keep

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 1>hold of this guy. He can catch it and run it.

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 1>But when he's unreliable catching the ball, that's where it

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>really bothers me. And that's why I gave him a

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 1>second round grade because he's unreliable in that respect. He's

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 1>not the he doesn't have a great build, so injuries

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:36.879
<v Speaker 1>I think are always going to be an issue for him.

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:39.839
<v Speaker 1>But so far he's proven that, hey, he was worth

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 1>a first round pick because of the explosive plays, and

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 1>those explosive plays make a big difference in a football game.

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 1>And so far he's he's proved he's been worth a

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:51.239
<v Speaker 1>first round pick. I think will Fuller that that's my

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 1>guy as a guy who I didn't have as highly

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 1>that maybe I should have because of that explosive plays.

0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 1>That aspect, it's a big deal. Well, I mean it's easier.

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it's easier, and I would still like the

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:03.880
<v Speaker 1>two guys were talking about their Sterling Shepherd versus Will Fuller,

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Like Sterling Shepherd is the prototype for doing things that

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.319
<v Speaker 1>make you comfortable with a wide receiver. Yea, I used

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 1>probably the best route runner in the class. Hands catches

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 1>were easy. I mean the hands were great, the routes

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:17.759
<v Speaker 1>were great. He had. He's explosive enough to where like

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I trust that guy any down any day, to throw

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 1>him any ball you want. I trust Sterling Shepherd. I

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 1>don't trust will Fuller. I would still take Shepherd over

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:27.640
<v Speaker 1>him all day. But both of them have in their

0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 1>own way, done the things they excel at to help

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 1>their team. Yeah. That's that's well put. Yeah, yeah, I

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>think just real quick, I just want to apologize to

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>my LSU guy, Dion Jones too. I really I didn't

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>have high hope. I thought he was like a career

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 1>special team or type of linebacker. Yeah, Jalen Mills isn't

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 1>playing bad in Philadelphia, but about Starred Robinson's starting both

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:52.280
<v Speaker 1>the two character guys with Mills, and we said Mills

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:55.480
<v Speaker 1>only fell because of the character stuff. I couldn't believe

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 1>he was seventh round picked by Philadelphia for Shard Robinson

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 1>together tape in the last year and was clean off

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 1>on the off the field. He'd have been a first

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 1>round the league. Yeah, but Dion I thought, I mean,

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like, he's too small, He's a special team

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:11.279
<v Speaker 1>or type guy. He's starting in Atlanta. We got your

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 1>two guys. The guy that I missed on Will Fuller.

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Guy that I thought nailed was Cody white Hair. Yeah,

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:20.919
<v Speaker 1>he was my twenty third best player in this draft.

0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 1>He felt a nice job, but the Chicago Bears is

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:25.919
<v Speaker 1>a starting center. He fell all the way to fifty six. Yeah,

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I thought this guy was one of the

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:30.480
<v Speaker 1>top twenty five players in this draft, and I thought

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 1>he was a Day one starter at either guard center.

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 1>He was playing center for the Bears at a very

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:38.279
<v Speaker 1>high level. You can make an argument right now he's

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:40.320
<v Speaker 1>one of the top five centers in the league. And

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not surprised at all because we saw this on

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 1>tape at Kansas State, and so for him to be

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 1>doing this, I think he's doing exactly what I thought.

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:51.360
<v Speaker 1>My sky report said he would do well. And I

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:52.960
<v Speaker 1>know we already talked about him when we did the

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys part of this, but really number one on this

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 1>whole list is Anthony Brown. Like, that's the guy that

0:44:57.719 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 1>relative to where he was taken and what we thought

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:03.400
<v Speaker 1>of him terms of value. Yeah right, I'm looking at

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 1>my list and I'm my top fifty and I had

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:09.879
<v Speaker 1>Elliot Ezekiel Elliot as my second best player on my board.

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Smart smart man. Yeah, but I had Miles Jack number one.

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Hey hollooo, whoa whoa, whoa whoa Now time out? Now? No, no, no, no,

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:20.800
<v Speaker 1>they put him in. They told him learn a new position.

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 1>We're getting you. Okay. No, No, I'm okay. I'm okay

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:26.959
<v Speaker 1>with my top two. But like I said, I'm happy

0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 1>the way that Elliot has worked out. I mean, my

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 1>notes were immediate impact, as tough as they come. That's

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:35.279
<v Speaker 1>just that's what I said about him. The guy, the

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:37.840
<v Speaker 1>guy I'm the mist most disappointed about. And I have

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 1>a couple I'll tell you the guy I was I

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:42.880
<v Speaker 1>was really really wrong about. And I didn't have had

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:44.920
<v Speaker 1>him my top fifty, but I didn't have him high

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:48.360
<v Speaker 1>enough in my top fifty. And where did he go?

0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Darren Lee? Remember you guys, I wasn't gonna I did

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:55.120
<v Speaker 1>not like Darren Lee at outside linebacker from Ohio State,

0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 1>and you watch him play with the Jets. I think

0:45:57.480 --> 0:45:59.839
<v Speaker 1>he's got twenty two tackles and a half a sack

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:02.319
<v Speaker 1>and something like that. But he is a much better

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 1>player than I gave him credit. I didn't want to

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 1>like him at all. But he the run hit factor

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 1>and all that. Yeah, he run really fast, and you're like,

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:11.719
<v Speaker 1>you're sitting here and watching, like, when's he gonna get

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Himhen's he gonna make a play. When's he gonna make

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:15.200
<v Speaker 1>a play. He's always run around. When's gonna Well, he's

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:17.840
<v Speaker 1>made twenty two tackles through six games. I mean, you know,

0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>there's something to him. I was really really wrong about him.

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, I should have had him probably higher. But

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Noah's Spence was my fifth best player on my board.

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Well a great Noah Spence and so you know, and

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I thought that he was the best pass rusher in

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:37.719
<v Speaker 1>the draft. I like this explosiveness off the edge. Yeah,

0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I think that to me. To me, Noah Spence is

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 1>the one, and I hope it's not one when I

0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:45.239
<v Speaker 1>wake up one day at this time next year as

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>we get through the complete season, and I said, boy,

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I completely miss Noah's I completely missed that he's got

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:54.319
<v Speaker 1>a sack. Yeah, but he's only got eight other tackles too,

0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:56.239
<v Speaker 1>and they're trying to find a way. I mean, it's

0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:58.719
<v Speaker 1>six games, I get, but I just I thought he

0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 1>would have an immediate pack if I thought he would

0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:05.400
<v Speaker 1>come in and really help Tampa and be a player

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:08.080
<v Speaker 1>that Okay, now he's got you know, let me tell

0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:09.920
<v Speaker 1>you the kid. Okay, Dane, tell me the kid's name.

0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:14.279
<v Speaker 1>The kid from Maryland, Yannick and Goquay. We couldn't remember

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 1>remember his name, Yannick and Gottwa jacks. Yeah, nine tackles,

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 1>four sacks, having a nice rookie year. Yeah, that's a

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:21.880
<v Speaker 1>fourth round that's a four sacks. That's a that's a

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:24.839
<v Speaker 1>fourth round pick right there. Fourth sacks. Nice. See, that's

0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the numbers I was thinking that Noah Spence would have. Yeah,

0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>that's what I was thinking right there. Welcome to the draft. Yeah,

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm just looking at it fun. I'm just looking at

0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:35.760
<v Speaker 1>our board that we put together. And just a random

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:37.880
<v Speaker 1>name that I think is at least worth mentioning is

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:40.399
<v Speaker 1>Taj Sharp. That's a guy that we that we liked,

0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and you watched him and it's like, man measurable. Uh,

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the NFL's looking at him like I don't know, but

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 1>you watch him play and it's like that dude runs route,

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:49.680
<v Speaker 1>so that dude catches everything. He steps into Tennessee and

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:52.400
<v Speaker 1>he's essentially their number one receiver. Right. Yeah, they're struggling too.

0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 1>You know what I think is fun about this though,

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 1>and I thought about it back during the draft. It's

0:47:56.760 --> 0:48:00.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you're picking twenty seventh and Byron Jews

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:03.759
<v Speaker 1>is your guy, Like, it's harder to predict, obviously, and

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 1>it's harder to feel bad about these things. But when

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys they were picking right at the top of

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:09.560
<v Speaker 1>the round every single every single time, and now we're

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 1>talking about a lot of these guys were potential options,

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:14.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it just makes it, well, it makes

0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 1>it more fun. It also makes it more painful when

0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:18.839
<v Speaker 1>you think, like, well, they could have gone that rounde

0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:21.440
<v Speaker 1>if they wanted to. Oakland took a kid, Corey James,

0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:25.279
<v Speaker 1>outside linebacker from Colorado States. Team liked him. Yeah, twenty seven,

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:28.160
<v Speaker 1>he's got twenty seven tackles. He's the undersized kid. Whinny

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:30.279
<v Speaker 1>he Yeah, he was a pass rusher than they pass.

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:32.279
<v Speaker 1>They had him on the ground. He's three four four,

0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:34.920
<v Speaker 1>three guys playing middle linebacker now for the Raiders. Yeah,

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:36.680
<v Speaker 1>A big part of that is just necessity. They need

0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:38.880
<v Speaker 1>someone to fill that hole. Yeah, but he's doing a

0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:42.040
<v Speaker 1>nice job stepping up and playing. When Jordan Howard when Indiana? Yeah,

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:46.000
<v Speaker 1>when when is the NFL going to stop being all

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 1>about measurables like receivers don't have to every six three

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 1>linebackers don't have to be ever forty. It's just they

0:48:50.960 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 1>don't ever get it's never gonna happen. They don't have

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 1>to be the kid the little kid from bon Buchanan,

0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:57.440
<v Speaker 1>the linebacker at Arizona that was a safety in college.

0:48:57.440 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 1>A little kid from Akron's playing well too, Tavis Brown,

0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:01.759
<v Speaker 1>and that was one of the guys I wrote down. Yeah, yeah,

0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 1>well he's up for Rookie of the Week. This if

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:06.399
<v Speaker 1>you can play, Brill Peppers is a guy we're gonna

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:08.840
<v Speaker 1>be talking. Okay, now segue, thank you very much. The

0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:12.440
<v Speaker 1>last ten minutes though, you know, let's talk about is

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:14.759
<v Speaker 1>I look at the Dallas Cowboys and and and you know,

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:16.799
<v Speaker 1>give me go around the room here, give me one

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:19.920
<v Speaker 1>team need for the Dallas Cowboys through six games, what

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 1>you've seen so far. If you think about twenty seventeen,

0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:27.160
<v Speaker 1>outside pass rusher, defensive end way more than anything else,

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I would say, I mean need Jeff Corner. And this

0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:31.520
<v Speaker 1>has to do with Yeah, car Mo, you don't know

0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:33.879
<v Speaker 1>who's gonna be. You know you've got Anthony Brown, right, Dane,

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:36.239
<v Speaker 1>you watched this team. What about safety? I think this

0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 1>team they're gonna have to make some decisions With Bullcocks

0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:40.839
<v Speaker 1>and Church. I think they're both their contracts are both

0:49:40.920 --> 0:49:43.840
<v Speaker 1>up at the end of the year. Yeah, Iron Jones, Yeah, exactly,

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:45.960
<v Speaker 1>what's gonna do there? But there's another safety spot here.

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Tight end maybe you know, think about with the age

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 1>with wit and I know when you type tight end,

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:52.640
<v Speaker 1>everybody kind of cringes. I think you're I think you're

0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:54.319
<v Speaker 1>dead right on tight end because that's the one spot

0:49:54.440 --> 0:49:56.319
<v Speaker 1>left when you look at going forward, you say, I'm

0:49:56.320 --> 0:49:58.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna have Dak, I'm gonna have Zeke, I'm gonna have Dez.

0:49:58.480 --> 0:50:01.640
<v Speaker 1>How about wide receiver number to number two? Wide receiver? Yeah,

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver. I got a sneaky one for you that

0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought about today. Guard not not not top of

0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:10.520
<v Speaker 1>the draft. You got you got Lyle Collins coming back.

0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:12.960
<v Speaker 1>You got Zach Martin, You're probably lock them down, but

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 1>you're into your I think that Chaz Green is gonna

0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 1>play right tackle for this team next year. That's what

0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:20.319
<v Speaker 1>I think. Okay, Okay, with all the with all the needs,

0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:24.279
<v Speaker 1>with all the needs, with all those needs we're talking about. Okay, Dane,

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:27.520
<v Speaker 1>shoot me some of your defensive ends. You've got any

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, people kind of give us an idea. And

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 1>every week you should follow Dane on Twitter. DP Brugler,

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:37.400
<v Speaker 1>you should every time you and Jeff you do podcast.

0:50:37.800 --> 0:50:40.400
<v Speaker 1>But you kind of put out guys to watch right

0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:42.279
<v Speaker 1>who are who are some people? And I know this

0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:43.880
<v Speaker 1>is probably putting you on the spot a little bit,

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:47.080
<v Speaker 1>but maybe some of the guys were taughout the defensive ends,

0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:50.320
<v Speaker 1>the cornerbacks people, and you know, let's all chime in

0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 1>of guys that you know, where's the Michigan kid fit

0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:54.920
<v Speaker 1>in all this? And I think looking at this class

0:50:54.960 --> 0:50:58.160
<v Speaker 1>coming up, there's I think defensive end could be strong,

0:50:58.360 --> 0:51:00.479
<v Speaker 1>edge rusher as a whole. I think corners to be strong.

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Running back obviously really the one position I look like

0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I look at that's not going to be strong. His

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:09.399
<v Speaker 1>offensive line, which is okay, well, yeah, that normally doesn't happen, Okay,

0:51:09.440 --> 0:51:12.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean deep saying defensive end in corner is deep.

0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be a great start and a

0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:16.520
<v Speaker 1>great fit for what this team's gonna need. When when

0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 1>fans start their study, what's position of the of the two,

0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:21.360
<v Speaker 1>which are they going to feel the best studying and

0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 1>watch it? Well, I think you look at edge rusher

0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:25.880
<v Speaker 1>because of one guy, and that's Miles Garrett. I mean,

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and listening too many games for that happen. It's already over.

0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:32.280
<v Speaker 1>That's a thing you can't have listen. He's Greg Ellis

0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:36.800
<v Speaker 1>everyone stop, don't do that. Yeah you don't. You know

0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:38.880
<v Speaker 1>how much I love Joey Bosa last year. I know

0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Greg Miles is a good player. Miles Garrett will have

0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:43.920
<v Speaker 1>a higher grade than Joey Bosa. I mean, I think

0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Miles Garrett's gonna be He's gonna be on your book.

0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Miles Garrett's the number one player in this draft. This

0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 1>is all right, It's October nineteen. It's not a surprise.

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 1>He's the number one players draft. And I will be

0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:55.040
<v Speaker 1>shocked unless he comes unless some character stuff comes out

0:51:55.080 --> 0:51:57.759
<v Speaker 1>around stuff. He's built like a tank and he moves

0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:00.239
<v Speaker 1>like a receiver. Yeah, that's a thing, don real six

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:02.640
<v Speaker 1>five's two sixty five. He moves so fast and he's

0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:04.400
<v Speaker 1>not a speed rusher. I mean he is a speed rusher,

0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:06.400
<v Speaker 1>but he's not only a speed rusher. He knows how

0:52:06.400 --> 0:52:10.040
<v Speaker 1>to use his hands, his leverage, push push pull technique,

0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:12.399
<v Speaker 1>he can do inside, he can do it all. I mean,

0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:15.640
<v Speaker 1>this kid's a real dad. It's cruel irony in a way,

0:52:15.719 --> 0:52:18.400
<v Speaker 1>but I mean it's early. The Cowboys are gonna have

0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:20.279
<v Speaker 1>too many wins to get this guy. They already know,

0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:23.279
<v Speaker 1>they already do. And here's the is this is a

0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:26.680
<v Speaker 1>year with good pass rushers, and again the Cowboys will

0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:28.600
<v Speaker 1>probably be back at up in the round. I mean,

0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:30.360
<v Speaker 1>that's that's the question that's going to be. Is he

0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:34.600
<v Speaker 1>worth training up? That's actually I'm I'm Garrett Love Garrett.

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:36.160
<v Speaker 1>He's a great player. I'm a little bit more curious

0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:39.320
<v Speaker 1>about the other guy on that line, DaShan, because he

0:52:39.480 --> 0:52:41.239
<v Speaker 1>seems to be a beast and he might be a

0:52:41.320 --> 0:52:44.279
<v Speaker 1>more realistic option somebody though. Okay, say the Cowboys do

0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:47.799
<v Speaker 1>finish in the finish somewhere between twenty four and on down,

0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:51.400
<v Speaker 1>is there an edge rusher can Barnett make it. I

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:52.839
<v Speaker 1>don't tend to see a guy making I don't think

0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Derek Barnett's gonna make it. I think he's gonna be

0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:57.719
<v Speaker 1>somewhere top twenty and he's moved. He's the perfect guy

0:52:57.800 --> 0:52:59.800
<v Speaker 1>for this team. Barnett, all these guys I would know

0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 1>if you I only know a few. Dade his way

0:53:03.239 --> 0:53:06.480
<v Speaker 1>on our podcast five get Ready, I throw alley oops

0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:09.600
<v Speaker 1>and Dane does three sixty dunks. Uh. Dwyane Smooth from Illinois.

0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I think he'll be in that late first early second

0:53:11.200 --> 0:53:13.440
<v Speaker 1>round discussion day. Shawn Hall, I think he'll be in

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that discussion. Hall is a guy that only played opposite

0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Miles Garrett, so he's not getting as much attention. Miles

0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Garrett didn't play against South Carolina two weeks ago, and

0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Dashawn Hall was still outstanding. I mean, this isn't that

0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:25.560
<v Speaker 1>type of deal. Hall is a real deal. You're looking

0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:28.319
<v Speaker 1>at other guys. Carl Lawson from Auburn, Charles Harris from

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Missouri's a big time player Missouri guy um and so

0:53:31.120 --> 0:53:33.399
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these guys are under class They come out.

0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Defensive line I think is going to be one of

0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:38.439
<v Speaker 1>the deeper positions this year, especially at the top. Miles

0:53:38.560 --> 0:53:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Garrett as the top guy. Malik McDowell from Michigan State

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:45.719
<v Speaker 1>defensive lineman pap dancing right now. Jonathan Allens from Alabama

0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:50.320
<v Speaker 1>is unbelievable. We know him, we wanted him, and for

0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:56.279
<v Speaker 1>some reason he decided to save his report. Yeah, O J. Howards, Yeah,

0:53:56.320 --> 0:53:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I kept Jonathan Allens. There's there's some guys we still got.

0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:01.640
<v Speaker 1>We could spend this whole time talking about Alabama's front seven.

0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:04.760
<v Speaker 1>They got a new middle linebackers. It's better than Ragland.

0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:06.680
<v Speaker 1>How about that game this week? You're gonna tweet out

0:54:06.680 --> 0:54:09.319
<v Speaker 1>though about Alabama, Texas A and M players to watch right.

0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I just did, actually, and it's as good as Alabama's

0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:15.239
<v Speaker 1>front seven is. Garrett's still the best player on the

0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:18.160
<v Speaker 1>field a Saturday. So yeah, but number two, three, four

0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:20.480
<v Speaker 1>or five and six or at Alabama YEA, A, A

0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:23.280
<v Speaker 1>and M has some safeties. Justin Evans our money Watts

0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:26.960
<v Speaker 1>about our LSU safety Jamal Adams. He's a solid player.

0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not he said that. Jamal Adam. He hasn't and

0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:33.359
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't been. He hasn't been as amazing as I thought. Yeah,

0:54:33.360 --> 0:54:34.799
<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm with you. I mean, I think he's

0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:39.640
<v Speaker 1>a good player, but hey, Trey White. Trey White, though

0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:42.640
<v Speaker 1>he's been predicting good, he came back for a senior

0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:45.480
<v Speaker 1>year to prove he was first round worthy. He's so far,

0:54:45.560 --> 0:54:47.200
<v Speaker 1>he's living up to it. He's doing a nice job.

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:48.879
<v Speaker 1>Talk about a couple of corners before we get out

0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:51.279
<v Speaker 1>of here. Yeah, about five minutes on this, we have

0:54:51.360 --> 0:54:53.279
<v Speaker 1>a couple of corners. I could go top ten this year.

0:54:53.520 --> 0:54:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Tease Tabor from Florida, Marlin Humphrey, another Alabama kid. Is

0:54:57.640 --> 0:54:59.840
<v Speaker 1>he better than our guy? Hart thinks? So? Yeah? Is

0:54:59.880 --> 0:55:02.399
<v Speaker 1>a acording to Laquon Treadwell. I remember the combine they said,

0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:04.400
<v Speaker 1>hey who is Yeah, who was tough? And he was

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:08.080
<v Speaker 1>like nobody. He's like, oh the kid at Florida, not Hardgraves. Yeah,

0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:11.440
<v Speaker 1>so boy he is. He's awesome. He's gonna be a

0:55:11.520 --> 0:55:14.279
<v Speaker 1>top ten guy as long as a character checks out. Okay,

0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Marlon Humphrey again, other top ten guy seniors. There's some

0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:24.640
<v Speaker 1>good guys with Cordrea Tankrously from Clemson, Davious White who

0:55:24.719 --> 0:55:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Dave mentioned, and the interesting guy to meet is Jordan

0:55:27.280 --> 0:55:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Lewis Michigan Corner who made that outstanding interception probably saw

0:55:30.960 --> 0:55:34.440
<v Speaker 1>in Sports Center. But this guy is a legit cover corner.

0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:37.759
<v Speaker 1>He's just small, so will will he fit in the draft?

0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:43.000
<v Speaker 1>He has first round, first round skills, but again, okay,

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:46.800
<v Speaker 1>don't make that sound again, second or third round size,

0:55:46.880 --> 0:55:50.640
<v Speaker 1>So Jordan Lewis will be interesting. Uh, guy that we scout,

0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm putting you on the spot real quick, and I didn't.

0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm hijacking this where you like, where do you see

0:55:54.560 --> 0:55:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Jill Peppers going in this draft? I think he's looking

0:55:57.080 --> 0:56:00.120
<v Speaker 1>at my top five players overall. He's in there. My

0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:03.200
<v Speaker 1>top five players overall, Miles Garrett, Jonathan Allen, Milik McDowell.

0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Jabrill Peppers is number four. He is safety in this scheme.

0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:08.560
<v Speaker 1>That that's the big debate. Yeah, sure, where does he play?

0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Because and people will throw out honey badger, We did

0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:13.279
<v Speaker 1>it with Ramsey two. Where does he play? My answer,

0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Miles Jack, My answer is on the field exactly. Those

0:56:16.800 --> 0:56:19.520
<v Speaker 1>type of guys that transcends scheme. You just you find

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:20.960
<v Speaker 1>a way to put him on the field and they

0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:24.400
<v Speaker 1>let that athleticism and ability take over. Jabrill Peppers is

0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:26.719
<v Speaker 1>that type of guy. He's not the honey badger. He

0:56:26.760 --> 0:56:29.480
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have those type of cover skills, but his when

0:56:29.480 --> 0:56:32.279
<v Speaker 1>the plays in front of him, his play speed and

0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:36.720
<v Speaker 1>burst are unbelievable. Blur blur speed. He's not missing tackles

0:56:36.760 --> 0:56:38.719
<v Speaker 1>this year, which he did last year. And then watch

0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:41.839
<v Speaker 1>him on punt returns. He's unbelievable. This is a kid

0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:44.279
<v Speaker 1>who's six foot two hundred and fifteen pounds. Watch him

0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:49.279
<v Speaker 1>run the ball fifteen he's playing. See you're making the

0:56:49.320 --> 0:56:52.399
<v Speaker 1>face and go no, I'm making the excited face. Okay,

0:56:52.719 --> 0:56:54.759
<v Speaker 1>you can play linebacker at that size. You can do

0:56:54.880 --> 0:56:57.719
<v Speaker 1>that now. But he's tackler, big tackler. He's a big

0:56:57.800 --> 0:57:00.520
<v Speaker 1>time tackler. Where its you gotta watch. And this is

0:57:00.520 --> 0:57:03.040
<v Speaker 1>a guy he was recruited as a corner, played nickel

0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:07.120
<v Speaker 1>last year, linebacker this year. I have some questions when

0:57:07.520 --> 0:57:10.560
<v Speaker 1>he has to turn his hips in coverage, but when

0:57:10.600 --> 0:57:13.399
<v Speaker 1>the plays in front of him, forget about it. I'm

0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:17.320
<v Speaker 1>excited to be talking about this. And obviously the Cowboys

0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 1>playing right now is the paramount concern, and they look

0:57:20.120 --> 0:57:23.080
<v Speaker 1>good and that's exciting by week dratime, but I'm I'm

0:57:23.120 --> 0:57:25.680
<v Speaker 1>already bummed out that, like we're not gonna be in

0:57:25.800 --> 0:57:28.120
<v Speaker 1>this like top of the draft conversation like all these

0:57:28.240 --> 0:57:30.320
<v Speaker 1>studs are gonna be gone by I've been doing this

0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:33.000
<v Speaker 1>since May, and I think I'm so excited because I

0:57:33.040 --> 0:57:34.960
<v Speaker 1>still want to talk to you about this. Jeff, we

0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:39.120
<v Speaker 1>do it. You know, we talk fastest answer I've ever

0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:40.640
<v Speaker 1>gotten on a text. I was like, Dan, what do

0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you think about a college football with some draft in there?

0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:45.600
<v Speaker 1>And it came back before I hit sinned. It was

0:57:45.680 --> 0:57:52.360
<v Speaker 1>really weird. It wasn't yes, it wasn't okay, it was please, Hey,

0:57:52.440 --> 0:57:53.760
<v Speaker 1>what do you think can we get? Can we get

0:57:53.800 --> 0:57:57.040
<v Speaker 1>this in quickly? Because watching other guys that people talk

0:57:57.040 --> 0:57:59.760
<v Speaker 1>about at quarterback, like, to me, this quarterback class, it's

0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:03.280
<v Speaker 1>like bizarre. I'm not really excited, Like Deshan Kaiser can play,

0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Watson can play, They can play, but there's nobody there

0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:08.320
<v Speaker 1>that I'm like, hey, there's the number one pick in

0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:10.640
<v Speaker 1>the draft now. And then I think we have to

0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:13.840
<v Speaker 1>preface this conversation by saying, who saw Carson Wentz going

0:58:13.960 --> 0:58:17.240
<v Speaker 1>top two overall this time last year? I did you know?

0:58:17.680 --> 0:58:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I watched a lot of North Dakota State film. I like,

0:58:20.080 --> 0:58:21.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, we I liked him at this point last year,

0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:23.720
<v Speaker 1>but I thought, you know, maybe as a chance, where

0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:26.360
<v Speaker 1>did you see him? Where did you think maybe first draft? Well? Yeah,

0:58:26.400 --> 0:58:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and then I thought he started off in the low twenties.

0:58:28.560 --> 0:58:31.560
<v Speaker 1>And then it was right. I remember when I had started,

0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:33.120
<v Speaker 1>when I had a chance to go see him live

0:58:33.240 --> 0:58:36.560
<v Speaker 1>in Frisco at the did and at the bowl game

0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:39.560
<v Speaker 1>that the FCS National title game. That's when I was

0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:43.960
<v Speaker 1>completely sold. I thought this guy is just yeah exactly.

0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:47.560
<v Speaker 1>So he was everywhere and that evaluations worked out for

0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the Eagle so far. But with this quarterback class, the

0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:51.800
<v Speaker 1>senior class, I don't like. I don't like these guys.

0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Chad Kelly from Ole Miss, he'll probably be the first

0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:57.880
<v Speaker 1>senior drafted. I don't trust him. Uh, but there's a

0:58:57.920 --> 0:58:59.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of issues going on. They thought a cop and

0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:02.320
<v Speaker 1>written to shoot up a club with an AK forty seven.

0:59:02.400 --> 0:59:04.400
<v Speaker 1>There's there's a lot of a lot of issues with him,

0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:07.400
<v Speaker 1>like my job too much, yeah exactly. And so the

0:59:07.440 --> 0:59:10.200
<v Speaker 1>senior class, I don't don't have a Carson Wentz this year.

0:59:10.440 --> 0:59:13.120
<v Speaker 1>The underclassman that's going to be the drives of the

0:59:13.160 --> 0:59:15.960
<v Speaker 1>discussion in terms of the underclassman or the quarterback class

0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:18.400
<v Speaker 1>this year. Deshaun Kaiser is still my guy at Notre Dame.

0:59:18.440 --> 0:59:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I think he has a chance to be the top quarterback.

0:59:20.680 --> 0:59:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Uh it's Deshaun Watson. He was viewed as that, you know,

0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:26.120
<v Speaker 1>the clear cut guy right now, I don't have in

0:59:26.240 --> 0:59:28.800
<v Speaker 1>my top ten prospects. I like him. I just I

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:31.200
<v Speaker 1>like the sounds you're making today. I worry about I

0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:33.960
<v Speaker 1>worry about his accuracy, his ball placement. Um, he's a

0:59:34.000 --> 0:59:35.840
<v Speaker 1>good player. We saw it against Louisville, what he did

0:59:35.880 --> 0:59:39.960
<v Speaker 1>this past year going mono imano against Lamar Jackson. Watching Louisville,

0:59:40.760 --> 0:59:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I can't come out that. You can't come out. Yeah.

0:59:43.200 --> 0:59:45.880
<v Speaker 1>One one guy to watch for is Mitch Trubiscuit in

0:59:45.920 --> 0:59:48.160
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. I've seen that guy play that day in

0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Miami that he's a good player who small sample size,

0:59:51.480 --> 0:59:53.960
<v Speaker 1>but good guy to watch. But he had trouble. Who

0:59:54.000 --> 0:59:56.520
<v Speaker 1>did they play the week before Virginia Tech. It was

0:59:57.440 --> 0:59:59.240
<v Speaker 1>the same thing with the Shawn Kayser at NC State.

0:59:59.400 --> 1:00:01.280
<v Speaker 1>So you almost have to throw the tape out. It

1:00:01.560 --> 1:00:03.760
<v Speaker 1>was that bad. I know the draft show is it's

1:00:03.800 --> 1:00:06.919
<v Speaker 1>a draft show, but I'm just sitting here thinking, thank God,

1:00:06.960 --> 1:00:10.120
<v Speaker 1>this isn't the Cowboys problem anymore. Yeah, that's we weren't

1:00:10.240 --> 1:00:14.720
<v Speaker 1>talking about quarterback even look at broadest. No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Bro,

1:00:14.960 --> 1:00:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm all about I'm all about the kid from THEE.

1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Even if even if Dakota is not the twelve year

1:00:20.040 --> 1:00:23.400
<v Speaker 1>answer here, the grain, the rain, Dakota, even if he's

1:00:23.440 --> 1:00:26.200
<v Speaker 1>not the franchise guy the Cowboys, I would they will

1:00:26.240 --> 1:00:28.280
<v Speaker 1>not be drafting a quarterback. Man. This is a team

1:00:28.320 --> 1:00:30.880
<v Speaker 1>that does not like drafting quarterbacks, especially when they got

1:00:30.920 --> 1:00:33.400
<v Speaker 1>it about this when hey, guys, is wrong on this

1:00:33.480 --> 1:00:36.400
<v Speaker 1>team next year. See, now that's that's your question again.

1:00:36.520 --> 1:00:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Now that's a question because if you like Mo claiborne,

1:00:41.680 --> 1:00:44.440
<v Speaker 1>if you like Mo Claiborne and you like Ron Learry,

1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:47.959
<v Speaker 1>you could sure you See that's why I said guard

1:00:48.120 --> 1:00:50.320
<v Speaker 1>is a need for this team because Ron Leary's not

1:00:50.440 --> 1:00:52.600
<v Speaker 1>staying here. I just see if you if we'll get

1:00:52.600 --> 1:00:54.280
<v Speaker 1>like a fifth round comp pick and find our next

1:00:54.320 --> 1:00:56.960
<v Speaker 1>franchise quarterback. There you go, It's easy. Well, guys, that's

1:00:56.960 --> 1:00:59.479
<v Speaker 1>all the time we have for today the Draft show,

1:00:59.720 --> 1:01:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and I want to thank everybody for coming in. David Hellman,

1:01:04.440 --> 1:01:06.040
<v Speaker 1>thanks for always hanging out with me at the start.

1:01:06.120 --> 1:01:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Kavanaugh, thanks for taking a day from one oh

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<v Speaker 1>five three. Make sure you check out his show. He

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<v Speaker 1>tells a lot of college football talk, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>draft talk from ten to three every day on one

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<v Speaker 1>oh five three. One of the good young, bright football minds.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a buddy here Dane Bruger from CBS Sports and

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Make sure checking out his work

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<v Speaker 1>as well. He's working hard talking about this draft up.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be back with you in January. We'll have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more to talk about. We'll talk about this team,

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<v Speaker 1>what they need to do, talk about all the other teams.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have a I have a better understanding two about

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<v Speaker 1>the players. I was fun listening to Dane and Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>talk about these guys. So I'm gonna start on my

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<v Speaker 1>film work with Jeff on December fifth. Why you started

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<v Speaker 1>that later? You started that early last year because the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys were bad. Cowboys played December first, and I'd done

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<v Speaker 1>it on December first that they weren't going to play.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a Thursday night. So I'm gonna start my

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<v Speaker 1>film work Monday. Theoretically, you're going to be working on

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<v Speaker 1>college film during a potential playoff run. I'm gonna try

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<v Speaker 1>because you know why, I know that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>draft the draft is so good for the Cowboys. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure we do it again. It was fun,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't. Thank you guys so much. Thanks everybody out

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<v Speaker 1>there for join us for my guy Kemp Garrison, Executive

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<v Speaker 1>producers Brian Bruss, and we'll see you next time on

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<v Speaker 1>the Draft Show.