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Speaker 3: This He's Talking Cowboys Training live.

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Speaker 4: From Dallas Cowboys Training Camp in Cala.

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Speaker 2: Six second test, ten six touchdown and now your hosts

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Speaker 2: Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 5: It's a Training Camp edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by

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Speaker 5: the River Ridge Training Camp Complex, home to Training Camp

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty five. We've got Tommy Yarish, Patrick Nosey Walker,

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Speaker 5: Josh Rodriguez, I'm back, Kyle Yeomans back in Sarrivory.

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Speaker 4: That means we are so bad.

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Speaker 1: You're so bad.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait.

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Speaker 5: You guys did a great job last week. All all

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Speaker 5: the shows that you did throughout the week, whether it.

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Speaker 4: Was Training Camp live or inside Cowboys Training Camp.

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Speaker 5: But especially Talking Cowboys was on point. And I'm proud

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Speaker 5: of you guys. Will you were missed. It is so

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Speaker 5: good to be back.

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Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely to Josh Rodriguez, absolutely cooked up and absence

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Speaker 1: you know was in the building. It just it just

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Speaker 6: Feels right, feel better with Kyle Yeoman's leading his thing.

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Speaker 6: It's glad to have We're glad to have you back there.

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Speaker 4: You guys are making me feel good. You know. It

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Speaker 4: was funny this morning.

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Speaker 5: I woke up, walked into the hotel lobby and ran

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Speaker 5: into a gentleman named Freddy G. Here it's fred G,

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Speaker 5: but it was Freddy G is what I started calling him.

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Speaker 5: And he said, I watch all your shows. You guys

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Speaker 5: are like rock stars to me. He's like, I felt

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Speaker 5: like I met ran into a rock star this morning.

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Speaker 5: He's like, I met Tommy.

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Speaker 4: And he ran into a rock star. Really appreciate y'all support.

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Speaker 4: They were really cool.

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Speaker 5: They were in the breakfast lobby this morning and so

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Speaker 5: they said Hi. But yeah, if you guys are out

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Speaker 5: training camp, don't be afraid to say hi.

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Speaker 4: If you see us walking.

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Speaker 5: Around, even on the sidelines, if you see us walking

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Speaker 4: We love seeing the fans out here. That's part of

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Speaker 4: one of my favorite parts about training camp.

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Speaker 6: But you have to go through my bodyguard first before

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Speaker 6: you can speak to me. We'll take it under advisement.

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Speaker 6: Will kind of search. You pat you down, and then

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Speaker 1: Is wealth talking again. The Poemer Simpson.

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Speaker 4: Promo code is talking.

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Speaker 7: Josh, look at that.

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Speaker 1: Sh Oh, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 6: This is from the Dallas Cowboys Pro Shop in Oxtard, California.

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Speaker 6: This is an exclusive training camp twenty twenty five iced

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Speaker 6: out chain.

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Speaker 4: Can I get one of those?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 6: I mean in your tax Brack. I's got three kids

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Speaker 6: over here instead of a chain.

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Speaker 1: You know, kids changed, same different, right?

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Speaker 9: You know why Josh has that change? Why is that

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Speaker 9: he just got a new paycheck.

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Speaker 4: You know why?

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Speaker 9: Because the Dallas Cowboys might be signing him to play corner.

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Speaker 9: At this point, man, I mean, wow, any all of

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Speaker 9: us need to get ready at this.

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Speaker 6: Point forty competition, but they know that the Josh is

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Speaker 6: going to win.

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Speaker 1: Stay ready, so I don't have to get ready. You know,

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Speaker 1: the routing number, make.

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Speaker 7: The deploy What number do you want?

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Speaker 4: Patrick?

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Speaker 1: Whatever number is free, doesn't matter, all right? I like

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Speaker 1: that double zero, rowdy.

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Speaker 5: Let's talk, man, there's like twenty twenty two is free,

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Speaker 5: twelve is free, eight is free. I don't think you're

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Speaker 5: getting any of that getting eight. I mean, other than that,

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Speaker 5: Seventy four now not getting that one.

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Speaker 1: Tell you I'll strike a deal with Rowdy. Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: bring that double zero zero, that double zero on the feet.

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Speaker 7: He's going to be the first free digit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah now zero.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you brought that up because since the last

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Speaker 5: recording of Talking Cowboys, there's a lot that's happened over

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Speaker 5: the weekend. Pads have come on a tight end, got paid.

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Speaker 6: As always that happens with Talking Cowboys. There's breaking news

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Speaker 4: There's gonna be I was about to say, there's gonna

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Speaker 4: be a breaking news segment like at today Pacific time.

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Speaker 1: That's just how it goes.

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Speaker 5: But we also had a bit of a roller coaster, gentlemen,

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Speaker 4: Of a former first round pick.

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Speaker 6: Can I go through the timeline real quick, let's go

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Speaker 6: to this press isn't great to begin with, man, So

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Speaker 6: you're doing this on top of all of that, it's

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Speaker 6: just not great.

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Speaker 4: Well, this will help you relive it.

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Speaker 5: And for those that may have missed the roller coaster yesterday,

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Speaker 5: here's how it started out here in practice, Tyler Geiton,

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Speaker 5: having a great practice and what I thought was his

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Speaker 5: looked like it was coming together. Wasn't a perfect practice,

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Speaker 5: the field at one twenty nine. About three hours later,

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Speaker 5: Pacific time, he in rap. Report from the NFL Network

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Speaker 5: reports that it is feared to be a torn ACL

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Speaker 5: for Tyler Geiton. Everyone starts to freak out. What do

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Speaker 5: What are the certain possibilities that are at hand? But

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Speaker 5: either way, our former first round pick has a torn

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Speaker 5: Todd Urcher reports that Tyler Guidon's acl is intact after

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Speaker 4: Week recovery, and that is where we stand.

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Speaker 5: It felt like all of Cowboys Nation took a sigh

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Speaker 5: as you wrote on Dallascowboys dot com, Tyler Goiden has

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Speaker 5: It feels like a.

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Speaker 9: Miracle, absolutely, and it's a like sigh of relief is

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Speaker 9: the perfect way to put it, because man, if Tyler

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Speaker 9: brutal that would have been, right, just because obviously things

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Speaker 9: That's the tough part about this is the optimistic view

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Speaker 9: the bottom line is he's missing the rest of camp,

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Speaker 7: He needed the time to sheell in with everyone around him.

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Speaker 9: He needed the time to get used to the physicality

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Speaker 9: I don't think that the Cowboys should be in any

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Speaker 9: because they're gonna have to play some really good edge

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Speaker 9: rushers this year. Like Week two against New York, You've

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Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, you are happy

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Speaker 9: A season ending injury and you're happy that you can

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Speaker 9: because that's a staple of the Cowboys offensive line, not

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Speaker 1: Tyler Guidon because Cowboys, you know, whatever might have happened.

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Speaker 1: And I say that kind of jokingly now that we

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Speaker 4: I did a rain dance in Southern Caro. It didn't work, But.

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Speaker 1: I tell you what, considering and like you said, Nick

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Speaker 1: Harrisy said this on Twitter, and it was very well put.

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Speaker 1: As many torn acls as the Dallas Cowboys training staff

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Speaker 1: they're pretty good at being able to diagnose that pre MRI. Okay,

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Speaker 1: pre MRI testing. But thankfully the MRI proved that showed

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Speaker 1: that it was still intact his acl is and that

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Speaker 1: saves the Cowboys in a lot of ways. Number One,

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Speaker 1: they don't have to and we don't have to entertain

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Speaker 1: the conversation of potentially moving all pro left guard Tyler

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Speaker 1: Smith out to left tackle. Thankfully, let's keep that where

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Speaker 1: it is in the grave for now. It also keeps

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys from having to glance potentially at a free

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Speaker 1: agency pool that looks very very poor.

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Speaker 8: We were talking about yesterday. It was rough.

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Speaker 1: It's rough. Tyron Smith is officially retired, probably doesn't have

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Speaker 1: any kind of inclination to come out of retirement. So

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Speaker 1: there's that. But then when you look at names like

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Speaker 1: David Boktiari, Charles Leno, Donovan Smith, yes, those are NFL

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Speaker 1: veterans with a lot of skins on the wall. However,

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Speaker 1: bok Tari and Leno. Neither of those guys took a

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Speaker 4: Four, and some of those guys are also retired.

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Speaker 1: with recently, a hip injury, a foot in here and there.

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Speaker 1: The pool of free agency looks abysmal, for lack of

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Speaker 1: Thank you really quickly before I throw it back to you, Kyle,

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Speaker 1: I'll be remiss if I didn't mention in this competition

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Speaker 9: Because here's the thing, Brian Schotheimer said it over and

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Speaker 9: I think he is a good left tackle. And right now,

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Speaker 7: It's it's definitely not what it would make things complicated.

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Speaker 7: And because then that money is going to change drastically.

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Speaker 7: But as a temporary solution, this was.

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Speaker 4: A full season thing. I agree with you, Tyler.

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Speaker 5: An offensive line looks like at times, especially when it

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Speaker 4: He's an All Pro interior offensive lineman.

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Speaker 5: And he's a good left tackle You're right, and I

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Speaker 5: But I'm not gonna sit here and move him back

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Speaker 8: Does the opponent of week one change your mind?

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Speaker 4: It should, but it doesn't because they're gonna tear you

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Speaker 1: That's my point. This is why the opponent being the

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and it's I think it's I'm with you as

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Speaker 6: No, but I would argue that if we're talking best

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Speaker 7: Really, Yeah, yeah, it's how you arrange them.

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Speaker 5: To right, left tackle to right tackle. What's your starting

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Speaker 4: Go? Uh, just a guess week one without guiding.

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Speaker 7: I think it's I would you?

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Speaker 9: I'm going, yeah, I'm going Richards, I'm going Richards, Tyler Smith,

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's exactly my foot exactly.

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Speaker 4: You would go there?

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Speaker 5: I would contend that Dentergy could play left tackle, but

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Speaker 5: That's gonna that's gonna be put Richard's there, but I

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Speaker 5: I think at some point over the next three weeks

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Speaker 9: But we were happy he's gonna be yeah, regardless, regardless,

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Speaker 9: you're happy, he's gonna be back, because if it would

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Speaker 4: All Right, when we come back here on Talking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, coffee, we're on fire today, sir. Let's go, dude.

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Speaker 1: We still have a recover from that's going to be

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Speaker 5: By the way, if you're new to the show, we

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Speaker 5: do a YouTube comment of the day just to have

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Speaker 5: a little fun for those It's got to be witty,

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Speaker 5: it's got to be encouraging.

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Speaker 4: It's got to be something that will make us chuckle.

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Speaker 4: it's clean. I guess yeah.

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Speaker 5: In the YouTube comments, and the first one that I

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Speaker 5: opened up YouTube, Noah said, hey, Fellas, whenever Tommy and

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Speaker 5: Patrick squaring off in the forty or did it already happen?

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Speaker 4: No, it did not happen.

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Speaker 1: It did. We're waiting.

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Speaker 7: We're waiting for you to get here.

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Speaker 4: We actually were, I know, but but now I'm here,

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Speaker 4: you are.

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Speaker 1: What are we doing? It's it's it's actually on, tom

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Speaker 1: it's whatever. I'm ready whenever. You're the challenger, So go

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 7: I'll go right now. We can do if we had

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Speaker 7: a mobile, it.

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Speaker 1: Can work very ollen. Did you get it done? No, seriously? Whenever?

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Speaker 5: Okay, so whenever it's good, you want to try and

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Speaker 5: do it, like next Monday.

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Speaker 4: Sure, we gotta show Monday.

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Speaker 8: We gotta show Monday.

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Speaker 4: You want to do it this weekend. When's the off

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Speaker 4: day of this weekend?

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Speaker 1: H wow, Sunday, Sunday, Sundays third day, Sunday Sundays.

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Speaker 4: The day Or do we want to do it in

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Speaker 4: front of fans?

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Speaker 1: Man? We can do it, no fans, front of fans.

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Speaker 1: We could do it in the church service. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter to me. It's gonna be the same results either way,

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Speaker 1: because you're gonna you're gonna need, need, want to. He

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Speaker 1: just just remember that I was minding my own business

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Speaker 1: and this young man called me out. So whatever happens

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Speaker 1: now is whatever.

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Speaker 8: How about after practice Wednesday?

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Speaker 7: I will okay, I will you want to get it

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Speaker 7: out away?

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Speaker 8: Well I want to?

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Speaker 1: Well no, no, no, not after practice. The reason I say

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Speaker 1: that is because we have content to create after practice.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we have something to about John you you know,

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Speaker 1: as the webmaster, you know we.

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Speaker 7: Have articles to write already.

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Speaker 4: Listen, it's fun enough shot, Let's.

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Speaker 8: Just let's just just advocate with calm.

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Speaker 1: Res in Wednesday's prime. Let's just have shot high eager

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Speaker 1: flu just push everybody to the side.

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Speaker 4: Let's just let's not do that. Floyd said, he's smoking

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Speaker 4: everybody up there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know Floyd California that that that smells like

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Speaker 1: a pull up, right, So come on, come on, pull up.

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Speaker 4: You can get in the mix too if you want to.

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Speaker 1: Anybody can get I'm spectating, anybody can come.

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Speaker 4: I'm reserving all my trash talk for Oh.

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Speaker 1: Now he's reserving the trash, the change in tone.

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Speaker 9: I have said everything, Oh, the change everything that's needed

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Speaker 9: to be said.

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Speaker 7: Hey, I'm gonna smoke you, and it's I'm gonna win it.

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Speaker 1: What's what's crazy for that?

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Speaker 4: My friends?

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Speaker 8: Because here on talking calend you to say.

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Speaker 7: With said, I've said everything that I've needed to say

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Speaker 7: with my I.

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Speaker 1: Have the receipts and I will be dropping those receipts afterwards.

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Speaker 1: Now he wants to play the cool and the humble

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Speaker 1: guy because I was minding my business. I've said it once,

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Speaker 1: I'll say it can just leave me be. But now

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Speaker 1: that you've placed your order, when it comes from the kitchen,

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Speaker 1: you don't get to send it back. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: That's all you got.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know what, we don't have to send back

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Speaker 5: to the kitchen because he got a got a contract.

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Speaker 5: He's sticking around for a little bit a little bit

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Speaker 5: sticking around for four more years. A little contract extension

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Speaker 5: for Jake Ferguson fifty two million dollars. Thirty of that

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Speaker 5: guaranteed well deserved by Jake just because of the what

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Speaker 5: he's meant to really the core of this offense, even

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Speaker 5: though he had a down year last year, and I

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Speaker 5: know he's faced some significant criticism from that. I've been

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Speaker 5: very vocal on here to where I think that was

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Speaker 5: a fluke. I think that was something that just didn't

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Speaker 5: work out last year. One because you didn't have your

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Speaker 5: starting quarterback after the Atlanta game, and two because he

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Speaker 5: had dealt with the injuries all the way up until.

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Speaker 4: Seemed like the Atlanta game.

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Speaker 5: I think Jake Ferguson is a solid piece to continue

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Speaker 5: to build around on this offense. Josh, I'll start with you,

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Speaker 5: what do you think about the fifty two million dollar extension?

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Speaker 5: Do you feel like it came at the right time

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Speaker 5: and what does it do for Jake Ferguson's role in

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Speaker 5: this offense.

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Speaker 6: Well, I couldn't be happier for Jake Ferguson, first off.

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Speaker 6: Second off, the fact that they're getting it done early.

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Speaker 6: This is something that the fans have been out of

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Speaker 6: advocating for a long time, and I'm sure the front

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Speaker 6: office wants to do that all the time.

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Speaker 8: It's like, yeah, let's get ahead of this. Coming off of.

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Speaker 6: His statistically worst season. He didn't have a touchdown last season,

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Speaker 6: and granted it's for a lot of reasons, but not

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Speaker 6: to He didn't give any excuses for it either. He

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Speaker 6: just said it needed to be better, and he said

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Speaker 6: that coming off of last season, to prepare the same

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Speaker 6: way going into the last season for this season would

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Speaker 6: be the definition of insanity. He wants different results than

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Speaker 6: he had last season. I'm looking forward to seeing it.

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Speaker 6: But in terms of getting the deal done, you love

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Speaker 6: to see that. You love to see how that might

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Speaker 6: impact getting more deals done. As we get through the

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Speaker 6: rest of camp, let's get like, I don't know, one

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Speaker 6: more today, one more tomorrow, one more you know, like,

626
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Speaker 6: let's just keep going down and keeping the guys that matter.

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Speaker 8: This is a guy that is staying for all the

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Speaker 8: right reasons.

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Speaker 6: And the fact that they got that Linda Wells is

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Speaker 6: back with the Cowboys on the coaching staff, I think

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Speaker 6: it was very indicative from the beginning that like, Okay,

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Speaker 6: we're gonna have Jake Ferguson around for a minute, not

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Speaker 6: only for his role and his relationship with Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 6: but now you keep Linda Well's yeah, and that is

635
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Speaker 6: all more telling to how he's going to contribute to

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Speaker 6: the offense.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the perfect storm for Jake Ferguson to

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Speaker 1: have a bounce back season as long as Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: can remain healthy and the Cowboys offensive line can keep

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Speaker 1: him upright, I think that you know, Jake Ferguson is

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Speaker 1: set to potentially have another pro bo season. Here's why

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Speaker 1: I say that when you look at the weapons that

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Speaker 1: were present when he had his Pro Bowl season two

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Speaker 1: years ago, versus the fact that now you have a

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Speaker 1: George Pickens on the roster to tandem with Cede Lamb,

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Speaker 1: and then again, assuming that Dak Prescott plays the entire season,

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Speaker 1: offensive line comes together. You can't defend everybody, You simply can't.

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Speaker 1: And Jake Ferguson's style of play, attacking the scene, getting

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Speaker 1: yalls after the catch, his aggressive dog mentality. He's one

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Speaker 1: of the enforcers on the offensive side of the ball. Biscuit.

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Speaker 1: He is a big biscuit. Per him, he is a

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Speaker 1: big Biscuit. Big Biscuit was in the air a few times.

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Speaker 1: Might see him in the air again this season. I

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Speaker 1: think that you know, it's it's easy and it's justifiable

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Speaker 1: for fans to wonder about the timing coming off of

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Speaker 1: the worst year that he's seen as a pro. But again,

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Speaker 1: if you look at what he's done prior, and then

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Speaker 1: you look at what he did at the collegiate level,

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Speaker 1: that was a complete aberration. He could not find chemistry

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Speaker 1: with Cooper Rush. He battled the concussion, he battled the

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Speaker 1: nie brain. He's healthy now, he looks good, he's moving well.

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Speaker 1: So I think that he's earned the money. And one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons that he was awarded that is because

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Speaker 1: he didn't he didn't set the market. Right, he is

665
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Speaker 1: mathematically the highest paid tight end in the in franchise history,

666
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Speaker 1: but he didn't set the market. Okay, but all things

667
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Speaker 1: being told, he's the definitive leader of that tight ends room.

668
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Speaker 1: He and Lounda Wales their relationship. I reported on that

669
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Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com had an exclusive Q and

670
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Speaker 1: A with Lounde Whales. He couldn't be more thrilled that

671
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Speaker 1: Jake is return. Jake could not have been more thrilled

672
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Speaker 1: that Lound Wales chose to return this off season. Now

673
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Speaker 1: they're going to be together for you know, hopefully years

674
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Speaker 1: to come, and that makes it That makes a lot

675
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Speaker 1: of sense as far as the productivity goes, because consistency,

676
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Speaker 1: it's really just hard to beat that with continuity.

677
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Speaker 6: And you're talking about a guy that big dogs Jamal

678
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 6: Adams in Seattle. I mean, come on, you love to

679
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Speaker 6: see that, and that's a guy that you want to

680
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Speaker 6: enter team for a team that was lacking dogs arguably

681
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Speaker 6: over the last couple of seasons.

682
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Speaker 8: You want to keep guys like that around.

683
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Speaker 5: That might be my favorite play by play call, just

684
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Speaker 5: from like a fan standpoint I've ever made, because that

685
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Speaker 5: was the game I filled in for Brad and.

686
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Speaker 8: He brings it up all the time.

687
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Speaker 5: It's all right, well, no, it's because it made talking

688
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 5: cowboys like come out in me, because I was like,

689
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 5: that play was so badass that it.

690
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Speaker 4: Made the talking cowboys element like pops out in the play.

691
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Speaker 5: And if you go back and listen to it, it's

692
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Speaker 5: like Fergie goes up to again. Jabal Adams was over

693
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Speaker 5: the top, but it doesn't matter. And you had that

694
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 5: in the call and I was like, this is awesome.

695
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 5: The play that he made was incredible, and he went

696
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Speaker 5: up and grabbed it over the top of him and

697
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Speaker 5: just like you said, big dog the dude.

698
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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely.

699
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Speaker 5: That's the thing is for fans that are complaining or

700
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 5: criticizing or criticizing the lawnmower behind us.

701
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Speaker 8: Keep up the good work man.

702
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Speaker 5: For those that are criticizing this deal in the way

703
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 5: when it got done, and this is where you want

704
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 5: it to get done. If you're a fan of the

705
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 5: Cowboys in the front office, it comes after a down year,

706
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 5: so the contract's cheaper than what it could be at

707
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 5: the end of an incredible year.

708
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Speaker 4: Also, not to mention, if you get any ounce of

709
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty.

710
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 5: Three, Jake Ferguson, Yeah, then you're gonna be fine.

711
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 4: This contract's gonna be well well well worth it.

712
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 5: You go back and you look at he had seven

713
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 5: hundred and ninety yards back in twenty twenty three. That

714
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 5: was behind guys like George Kittle, Travis Kelcey, Evan Ingram, TJ.

715
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Speaker 5: Hawk In, Sam Laporta, David and Joku, Trey McBride.

716
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Speaker 4: Good company, that's it.

717
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Speaker 1: It's good company.

718
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 4: That's it.

719
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Speaker 5: He's above every other tight end in the NFL in

720
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty three, So if he can get back to that,

721
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Speaker 5: and that's not saying he's the best tight end in

722
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Speaker 5: the NFL. That's saying he needs to be in that

723
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 5: same category and some of those other guys.

724
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Speaker 4: If he's in that category, I think this is a

725
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 4: deal well done.

726
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Speaker 1: And I'll said this really quickly before you tap in

727
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Speaker 1: Tommy when it comes to your initial question, Kyle, who

728
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Speaker 1: might that now open the door for what I've learned

729
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: in covering the Cowboys, particularly as far as their training

730
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: camp negotiations, sometimes it only takes one deal to break

731
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: the damn for the next two or three deals to land.

732
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Speaker 1: We saw that not so long ago when it was

733
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Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs, MALIEK. Cooker, Donovan Wilson. Okay, that could very

734
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Speaker 1: well be a situation here this time around. Now hopefully

735
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: that will involve Michael, but that's a much different conversation

736
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Speaker 1: as far as the size of that particular deal. But

737
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Speaker 1: I could very well see maybe a dran Bland negotiation

738
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Speaker 1: going well for them following this Jake Ferguson negotiation. We'll

739
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Speaker 1: see if Tyler Smith's negotiate because his agent was on

740
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Speaker 1: the field talking to the executives yesterday, so those talks

741
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: are in play as well. So again I'll say, normally

742
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: it only takes one contract to land and then you

743
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: will see like two or three others kind of land

744
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Speaker 1: in the domino. Effit.

745
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think you guys hit the nail on the

746
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Speaker 9: head in terms of Ferguson and what that means. I

747
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 9: don't even think he needs to have a twenty twenty

748
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Speaker 9: three esque season. I just think he needs to be

749
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 9: a reliable safety blanket for Dak Prescott, and if he

750
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Speaker 9: does that at a consistent level, then he's going to

751
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 9: be just fine, have a good year, and the Cowboys

752
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 9: offense is going to be better for it.

753
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Speaker 7: I do like the point you made about is does this.

754
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Speaker 9: Open the door for more negotiations, Because we were talking

755
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 9: to Steven Jones the other day that was asked, he said,

756
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Speaker 9: somebody asked I think it was Todd Archer asked him.

757
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 9: Coaches say the turnovers coming bunches. Can deal's coming bunches.

758
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 9: So sure it takes two though, Yeah, it takes two.

759
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 9: And that's what this front office has said from the

760
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Speaker 9: jump with everybody that they've been at that they've been

761
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Speaker 9: apart with you know, obviously Michael Parsons is the big

762
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Speaker 9: one right now that everybody's looking at, and the front

763
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 9: office has been adamant about that. It takes two to

764
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Speaker 9: tango there. But I was on the fan this morning

765
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Speaker 9: and they asked me a good question. It was like,

766
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Speaker 9: Deron Bland, Michael Parsons, Tyler Smith, in what order do

767
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Speaker 9: you think they sign? And I'm curious as to y'all's

768
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Speaker 9: thoughts on this as well. I said, Smith, Parsons, Bland.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. Well. Initially when camp started and I

770
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Speaker 1: said this on camping out, I said, I believe that

771
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Speaker 1: Deron Bland will be the first one to jump out.

772
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Speaker 1: Happy to say I was wrong, especially considering who got

773
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Speaker 1: the deal done first. Jake Ferguson, big fan of ferg

774
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Speaker 1: I still want to go with Deron Bland. Nicks hearing

775
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Speaker 1: some whispers that things are moving positively with Tyler Smith.

776
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Speaker 1: So I'm going to agree with Tommy here. I'm going

777
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Speaker 1: to say I think because I'm hearing whispers, I think

778
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Speaker 1: things are moving positively. I'm gonna say Smith, Bland, Michael.

779
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Speaker 1: I think Michael bookends it. I think he's the biggest

780
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Speaker 1: obviously he's the biggest flash, but I think his is

781
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Speaker 1: what it kind of sets the tone for the season.

782
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Speaker 5: It's interesting because they all have different situations. Yes, very

783
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Speaker 5: between the three specific players and the guard get paid

784
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Speaker 5: this morning or yesterday. Boy, I wouldn't know about that one.

785
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Speaker 9: It was tackle clanking on his name charge chargers right,

786
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Speaker 9: thank you?

787
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so another offensive line sounds like I didn't see

788
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Speaker 1: a guard, but you keep.

789
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Speaker 4: Yes, later got paid. That was a big one.

790
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Speaker 5: But when you look at the the three situations, Tyler Smith,

791
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Speaker 5: Michael Parks, is Ron Blanddron Bland, out of all three

792
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 5: of those guys, has the biggest chip on his shoulder

793
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 5: to either have an incredible season out here and try

794
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 5: and cash in on it and bet on himself, or

795
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Speaker 5: to get a deal done now where his stock is

796
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Speaker 5: still very high, because there's a lot of pressure on him,

797
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Speaker 5: not not by a fault of his own, but by

798
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Speaker 5: the fault of missing some games last year and the

799
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Speaker 5: fault of guys around him not being healthy. Trayvon Diggs

800
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Speaker 5: savone rebel guys like that that he's going to have

801
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Speaker 5: to rely on outside of him. He's going to be

802
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 5: tested against the number one receivers. At this point in time,

803
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Speaker 5: he will face team's number ones.

804
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Speaker 4: That's just where we are as a ball club.

805
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 5: So if the cornerback position stays as light as he does,

806
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 5: darn Blant may want to try and get this done

807
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 5: now because if he has a down year, his contract

808
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 5: worth isn't gonna be there as much now.

809
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 4: The team may not want to echo that sentiment.

810
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 5: Whereas Tyler Smith, he's he could play out this year,

811
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 5: he could take as long as he wants because he

812
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 5: has played at the high level and he can kind

813
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 5: of sit back on that same thing that Micah did

814
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 5: last year going into last year, and then Micah of

815
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 5: course is where he is now. So it really all

816
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 5: kind of pieces together differently. But if I wouldn't have

817
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 5: heard the Tyler Smith whispers as well, like I would

818
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Speaker 5: probably say.

819
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Speaker 4: Bland gets it done because he's.

820
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Speaker 5: Got the encouragement and he's got the reason to go

821
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Speaker 5: and get it done now.

822
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Speaker 6: Well, if you think of Deron Bland not also being

823
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Speaker 6: here the past few days to welcome his child in

824
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 6: the world, I think that's a big part of why

825
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 6: maybe those whispers have kind of quieted. He obviously had

826
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Speaker 6: some family stuff that he needs to deal with at

827
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Speaker 6: this point, I would probably say Tyler Smith first, then

828
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Speaker 6: Deron Bland, and then Micah. It's gonna be one of

829
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Speaker 6: those I feel. I don't know any I feel it

830
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 6: would be one of those things, similar to Dak when

831
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 6: he got his deal done right before Week one like that.

832
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 6: I think it was the morning of that game, So

833
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 6: that to me kind of feels indicative. But you're talking

834
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 6: about Deron Bland, who wants to get his deal done

835
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 6: and shot. He's talked about how versatile he's going to

836
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Speaker 6: be out here, and seeing him on the field this year,

837
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Speaker 6: I mean, he's not just going to play that outside spot,

838
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 6: which is what we're kind of accustomed to from him.

839
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Speaker 6: I think his versatility is going to help him ultimately

840
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 6: because this coaching staff wants him here. I want him here,

841
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 6: the fans want him here because of that incredible season

842
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 6: that he had. Hopefully he's able to build on it

843
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 6: and not say it was a fluke.

844
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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

845
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Speaker 1: It's everything that Josh, Tommy and Cole have all said

846
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: collectively about Deron Blaine and I'm going to add this

847
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: because we're speaking about how he was he his family

848
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: were blessed enough to welcome a child just to the family.

849
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Speaker 1: I'm going to speak on this as a father. Okay,

850
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: So as a father. If you look at it from

851
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: that angle, I could see Deron Bland wanting to lock

852
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: up job security. I could see him wanting to make

853
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: sure that he and his family are is completely set,

854
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: especially with a new born looking him in the eyes.

855
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Speaker 1: And I asked him about it yesterday, like does this

856
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: ad now? Does it? But how does it add added

857
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: motivation as far as now that your father and whatnot?

858
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: And he said, you know, knowing that you have to

859
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Speaker 1: set the tone. You have to be the role model,

860
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: and you have to set the example. I hear those

861
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: father that father energy coming from him now. So not

862
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: only is he looking to have a strong season, but

863
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: you mentioned something Kle that the front office has to

864
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: want to do it as well. Here's why I think

865
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Speaker 1: they should want to do it. For everything that Josh said.

866
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs is on Puff right now, Savon Revel is

867
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Speaker 1: on n F five. You just lost Kailyn Carson for

868
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Speaker 1: four to six weeks, and then that's him trying to

869
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Speaker 1: work back from a season ending shoulder injury last season.

870
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: Right now, you have Kyer elim standing out. Okay, and

871
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: Andrew Booth left practice, that's TBD. What's the situation there?

872
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: And he just had one of his best practices. Right

873
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: You signed Christian Matthew, who's reuniting with Matt Eberflus from

874
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: their short time in Chicago together. But you have so

875
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 1: many question marks to answer at cornerback right now? Which

876
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: question mark do you not have? Prison it's Deron Blan.

877
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: The only question mark you have for Deron Blan is

878
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: can you get back to first team All Pro status?

879
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: But as far as the foot injury being anomalous to

880
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Speaker 1: his durability, he's He's your versatile, versatile guy, you're trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out multiple positions. He's your durable guy. He's

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Speaker 1: your all pro that's present in accounting for right now.

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Speaker 1: I think the front office wants to get the deal done.

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Speaker 1: I think Deron Blan wants to get the deal done.

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Speaker 1: I think now that he's back in the building, can

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Speaker 1: grease the wheels a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit, maybe can get things going there.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be interesting because he could also be one

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Speaker 5: guy that the Cowboys want to let play out throughout

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Speaker 5: the season on himself and see what happens. That's what

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Speaker 5: I'm because then we gotta go to break here. But

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Speaker 5: then it comes down to him or George Pickens too,

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Speaker 5: because George Pickens is gonna be a big contract at

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Speaker 5: the end of the year that you know will be

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Speaker 5: played out.

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Speaker 1: Don't get me started on the Sailary cap. You've got space,

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Speaker 1: you can make space.

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Speaker 4: You can make it happen.

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, there's gonna be another contract

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Speaker 5: that's about the hit, and you're gonna have three of

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Speaker 5: the highest paid players in the NFL on your roster

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Speaker 5: at the same time. There is ways, there are ways

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Speaker 5: to finangle you are, Yeah, but I don't know if

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Speaker 5: it's going off that much.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 5: When we come back on Talking Cowboys, we wrap things

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Speaker 5: up with some defensive dominance. We've seen some good things

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 5: the front this time here in training camp, doing a

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Speaker 8: It's nice, it's nice to look at it. It's like

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Speaker 8: it's like we have an audience for real.

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Speaker 4: Beam.

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Speaker 8: I'll take you in the front any day, Beam, and

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Speaker 8: then on.

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Speaker 4: The back to watch. You know, I wish we had

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Speaker 4: a live audience. That'd be fun.

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Speaker 5: I know Nick Eatman's trying to find something like that

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Speaker 5: happening through storyline very soon.

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Speaker 4: But kick off.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah, Beam, we love you.

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Speaker 5: I love you and all your hard work out here.

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Speaker 5: You do a great job. They like you when you're

973
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Speaker 5: behind them, Beam.

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Speaker 4: All right, Uh, let's get into the defense.

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Speaker 5: At times it feels like the defense has been behind

976
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Speaker 5: the offense. But I think right now you can say

977
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Speaker 5: the defense is in front of the offense and the

978
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Speaker 5: way that they've kind of worked their way into this

979
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Speaker 5: turnover heavy run to the football sort of Matt Eberflu's mentality.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's been fun to watch out here in practice.

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Speaker 4: Patrick.

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Speaker 5: I'll start with you, whatever you've been your your initial

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Speaker 5: reactions on the defense, Well.

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Speaker 1: I think the defense is doing exactly what they're setting

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Speaker 1: out to do. We saw and heard Brian Schottenheimer said

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Speaker 1: that he expects this Cowboys defense to be one of

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Speaker 1: the best in the league when it comes to taking

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Speaker 1: the ball away, and they're doing exactly that. Seems like

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Speaker 1: they do it every day. And actually it's not that

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Speaker 1: it seems like they're doing it every day. They actually

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 4: They have done it.

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Speaker 8: They actually do.

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Speaker 1: It every day. And on top of that, now that

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Speaker 1: the pads are on, I mean, you're seeing guys fly around.

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Speaker 1: Malik Hooker had the best day of his camp so far.

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Speaker 1: Uh and you could argue that his intensity spilled over

998
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Speaker 1: just a little bit because Brian Schottenheimer said that he's

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Speaker 1: seeing too many guys on the ground. Apparently Millie Cooker

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Speaker 1: did not get that memo, because he was in fact

1001
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Speaker 1: putting some guys on the ground. But he couldn't help himself.

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Speaker 1: He's he's playing. Yesterday, he was practicing like his hair

1003
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Speaker 1: was on fire and.

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Speaker 4: Stopped pick up his footing. He slept on a screen.

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Speaker 4: He looked up and.

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Speaker 1: But that's the that's the level of intensity. You got.

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Speaker 4: Guys like chance to break down and like veer off

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Speaker 4: and he did not.

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Speaker 1: Why do that when you can just wake a guy up. Okay,

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Speaker 1: hooker's playing to that level or practicing to that level.

1011
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: Sam Williams, Uh, he's champing at the bit to the

1012
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: point where he's barking in meetings, you know what I mean.

1013
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Speaker 1: So rather it be those guys or.

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Speaker 4: Some of the other guest Parks sounded like, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: go with it.

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Speaker 1: I figure it had some bass. I feel like it

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Speaker 1: was more rocking.

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Speaker 4: Impression is what I'm trying to get to.

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Speaker 1: There it is, Okay, I I've got good practice doing that.

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Speaker 1: And why is that? Tell me? Why do I have

1021
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Speaker 1: good practice? Because go dogs?

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Speaker 4: What is your best impression? Josh, what do you think

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Speaker 4: it was?

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Speaker 1: That's what Sam?

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Speaker 8: Maybe you never know. I'm not gonna judge me.

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Speaker 4: That's that's exactly my thought on your impression.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to bring it from the chest, from

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Speaker 1: the inside, from the innards. But the defense is flying around,

1029
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Speaker 1: you know, even though they're supposed to be in thudding,

1030
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Speaker 1: only their guys on the ground, they're intercepting the ball. Uh,

1031
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Speaker 1: They're challenging the offense to take the next steps. And

1032
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Speaker 1: this ultimately should be an iron stoppings iron situation before

1033
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Speaker 1: it's all sit and done.

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Speaker 6: First thing I'm seeing when it comes to the defense,

1035
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Speaker 6: I was very concerned after losing Al Harris last offseason.

1036
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Speaker 6: To me, I don't think the secondary has taken a

1037
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Speaker 6: step back because David Overstreet has done an amazing job

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Speaker 6: with the secondary so far.

1039
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Speaker 8: And just seeing their bond grow as we get energy,

1040
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Speaker 8: His energy, the the the But.

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Speaker 6: The bond between the secondary so far has been a

1042
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Speaker 6: parent You see them picking the ball off like crazy,

1043
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Speaker 6: you see them celebrating, you see them encouraging each other.

1044
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Speaker 6: That's exactly what you want to see. Obviously we're here

1045
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Speaker 6: at training camp. It all depends, and I talked about it,

1046
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Speaker 6: what was it last episode recorder on Thursday where it's like,

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Speaker 6: does this concern you how much the defense is taking

1048
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Speaker 6: the ball away? But I just think it's all encompassing

1049
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Speaker 6: of how the team is reacting and like they're scoring practice,

1050
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Speaker 6: the coaching staff is scoring practice. I think that's I

1051
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Speaker 6: haven't heard of that before. To me, it just sounds

1052
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Speaker 6: like they have the right mentality going into it. I

1053
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Speaker 6: have questions on other sides of the defense, but at

1054
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Speaker 6: least the secondary currently is is shining.

1055
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Speaker 4: Safeties or are you talking corner rotation to.

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Speaker 8: Corner corner safety.

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Speaker 5: Mollie Cooker is a stands played really well, another standout

1058
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Speaker 5: if he's on the field, and that's that's that's the

1059
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Speaker 5: fun problem.

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Speaker 4: When they're on the field, are they gonna be fine?

1061
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Speaker 4: Are they? Are they good?

1062
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Speaker 5: But they haven't been on the field a whole lot.

1063
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Speaker 5: I mean, the secondary I agree with you is when

1064
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Speaker 5: they're out there. Give a lot of credit to this

1065
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Speaker 5: coaching staff for what they've done with kyer elm might

1066
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Speaker 5: be the biggest pickup of the off season and we

1067
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Speaker 5: haven't even played a game yet. Yeah, he may be

1068
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Speaker 5: the biggest acquisition in this offseason, not counting the NFL Draft,

1069
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Speaker 5: but that they made from a trade or a signing

1070
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Speaker 5: or what it.

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Speaker 6: Wasn't making moves when we when that move was made

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Speaker 6: and when that trade was made.

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Speaker 5: He's kind of like he could be a starter even

1074
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Speaker 5: after everybody comes back.

1075
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Speaker 4: You can find his way into a rotation. If kyer

1076
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Speaker 4: Elan plays like this and he's your fourth corner, what.

1077
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Speaker 1: Are you talking?

1078
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Speaker 5: That would be a we would feel so much better

1079
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Speaker 5: about this group came back.

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Speaker 1: It also bears mentioning that in the Dan Quinn era,

1081
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Speaker 1: we know that Dan Quinn was responsible for this Cowboys

1082
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: defense leading the league in takeaways.

1083
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Speaker 3: Uh.

1084
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: Two training camps would go they were taking the ball

1085
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 1: away just like they are right now, and two years

1086
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: ago Dak Prescott went on to become NFL MVP running row. Yeah,

1087
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Speaker 1: so I wouldn't put too much stock in the fact

1088
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Speaker 1: that the Cowboys defense is taking the ball away as

1089
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Speaker 1: it relates to Oh, well, I'm concerned that the offense

1090
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Speaker 1: is not give them time to jail. They'll be fine.

1091
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Speaker 1: I want to see the defense doing exactly what he's

1092
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Speaker 1: doing right.

1093
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Speaker 7: Now, and you want to see a good balance, right.

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Speaker 4: I think it's always.

1095
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Speaker 9: Good to have balance between the two because you don't

1096
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Speaker 9: want one side just dominating the other all the time,

1097
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Speaker 9: because then that tells you that one side isn't as

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Speaker 6: That was exactly how I felt last year when I

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Speaker 6: was like, this defense looks good, man, and then it

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Speaker 6: was that constantly all of last camp, and I was like, man,

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Speaker 6: this defense is something, and it was more so indicative

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Speaker 6: of how the offense is going to operate and how

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Speaker 6: kind of just not gelling they were. They didn't have

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Speaker 6: the juice really last year, especially in terms of like

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Speaker 6: running back. But yeah, I think what you're saying, balance

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Speaker 6: is key here.

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Speaker 9: And I'll say this with Matty Erfluss's defense, you're more

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Speaker 9: than likely gonna get two things. You're gonna stop the run,

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Speaker 9: You're gonna turn the ball over. And one thing I

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Speaker 9: think he's getting this year that he didn't get as

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Speaker 9: much in Chicago is these guys are.

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Speaker 7: Gonna get after the quarterback. Oh, these guys are going

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Speaker 7: to get after the quarterback.

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Speaker 9: Dak Prescott has been in the trenches sometimes in these

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Speaker 9: practices because he just doesn't have the time to throw.

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Speaker 9: The pocket collapses on him so fast. And it's because

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Speaker 9: the Cowboys defense has a plethora of edge rushers. They

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Speaker 9: can get home and can get to the quarterback, which

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Speaker 9: is something that Maddy Briflus just didn't have in Chicago

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Speaker 9: and now he does.

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Speaker 5: I think when you look at this defense in this

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Speaker 5: competition that they're having with the offense, like you said,

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Speaker 5: I haven't heard of it scored as diligently, but people

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Speaker 5: kind of keep track of it, and that's kind of

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Speaker 5: where it is. But I mean, like to your point,

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Speaker 5: Brian Schottenheimer's like, Yeah, the defense won this drill.

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Speaker 4: The offense won this trial, the defense won this drill,

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Speaker 4: and then we went.

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Speaker 5: To a tiebreaker that included props in the pads early

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Speaker 5: on just to break the tide for the day. So

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Speaker 5: the defense or offense, whatever it was, won the day.

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Speaker 5: So all of that that plays into that competition element

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Speaker 5: every day. The fact that it is as even as

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Speaker 5: it has been and it is a back and forth.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly what you want to see. And that plays

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Speaker 5: to what Tommy was just talking about. You have to

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Speaker 5: see consistency because if the offense is dominating on one end,

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Speaker 5: and I think they have at certain points of this camp,

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Speaker 5: but then the defense is answered back and then it's

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Speaker 5: been back and forth from there. And so I thought

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Speaker 5: yesterday I thought the offense looked better. I would have

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Speaker 5: said the off.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, time looked cleaner.

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Speaker 5: Even though Schottenheimer said that they won Saturday's practice, I

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Speaker 5: thought Saturday was a lot of run game, a lot

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Speaker 5: of ground stuff, and the passing game was very shaky.

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Speaker 5: Going back and watching yesterday, it looked like they found

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Speaker 5: some rhythm on the offensive side in the passing game.

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Speaker 5: And if you can continue to have that back and forth,

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Speaker 5: I think this is going to be a really productive.

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Speaker 1: As rooted in the offensive line starting to come together.

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Speaker 1: So that's why it would have been that much more

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Speaker 1: devastating if you lose Tyler Guiden for the season, because

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Speaker 1: Guyden had another strong game, strong practice yesterday, as you

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Speaker 1: alluded to, especially against Ezraku. And we can't stress just

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Speaker 1: enough although israk who is a rookie And this is

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Speaker 1: not the hype machine because I don't do the hype machine,

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Speaker 1: but based upon what I'm seeing and also what coaches

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Speaker 1: are saying, and I posted on Twitter yesterday.

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Speaker 8: Look at you can't look at what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: Look at old Diggi Zoo's face when I asked him

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Speaker 1: what impresses him most about Israeko? Just go look at

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Speaker 1: his facial expression because that'll tell more than the actual

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Speaker 1: quote itself. There's an elation that kind of washed over

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Speaker 1: his face, like this kid when you get a guy

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Speaker 1: of that caliber osa having that kind of reaction talking

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Speaker 1: about a rookie. And then you on the flip side,

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Speaker 1: you see Tyler Guidon being able at least fifty percent

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Speaker 1: of the time, more often than fifty percent of the

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Speaker 1: time winning those reps. Guytan is on the right pass

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Speaker 1: so the offensive line is jelling you hate that guy

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Speaker 1: is going to miss the entirety of the preseason and

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Speaker 1: the rest of training camp. But hopefully when he comes back,

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Speaker 1: he can pick right back up where he's leaving off.

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Speaker 4: And he had some ups and downs.

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Speaker 5: He had some good things that he did, he had

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Speaker 5: some bad things that he did, and there was a

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Speaker 5: lot of hype around him. I think a lot of

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Speaker 5: it was hope instead of hype. And the hype started

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Speaker 5: for me yesterday before the injury, and so that was

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Speaker 5: when he went down. It was really it was a

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Speaker 5: devastating one. Best wishes to Tyler and all the other guys.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there have been a long list of injuries already. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: some of them more severe than others. But hopefully we'll.

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Speaker 4: Get those guys back here Richards pretty quick.

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Speaker 1: Show me you're awesome.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be a big one for awesome Richards over

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Speaker 5: the next couple weeks.

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Speaker 4: All right, We will be back.

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty five for Tommy Irish Patrick no c Walker

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Speaker 5: for Josh Rodriguez and Chris Bigaman in the front. I'm

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Speaker 5: Kyle Yeomen saying so long from Oxnart, California.

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Speaker 4: We'll see you on Thursday.

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