1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Hey Christy, Hi Will. How are you? I'm good. How 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: are you doing? I don't know why. Sometimes it just 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: feels like it's been a million years since I've seen 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: you and heard your voice. And it makes me sad. 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: It does. It feels like it's been a while. I 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: probably hasn't been that long, but it does. It feels 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: like it's been a while. And then we popped on 8 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: and the first thing you talked about was my Ron 9 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: in the box. I did. It's a run in the 10 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: box right there behind him. That is not Yeah, that 11 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: is not a strange euphemism. If you are, you can 12 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: look at the the video. I'm actually in my little booth. 13 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: I have some toys behind me, and there's my Ron 14 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: stoppable of course in the box, because you never take 15 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: a toy out of the box. That's why unless channel 16 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 1: and then sacrilegious. I get that now. Though I want 17 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: to tell you we did it for views. We did 18 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: it for views, but we didn't need to do it 19 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: for views. However, we did do a really cute thing 20 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: where you and I made this knocko on the YouTube 21 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: or whatever, and it was like, by the way, my 22 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: top performing interview and video. So it was and everyone 23 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: knows it. I concur will is uso in my you 24 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: do really have a great voice. Um, I don't know. 25 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: So lately I've been like, I do a lot of 26 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: interviewing and I I guess the voice is a really 27 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: interesting part of the human um body because you use 28 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: it and can utilize it in so many different ways. Right, 29 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: So like when you're interviewing somebody, you can genuinely ask 30 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: them questions with empathy, and you can like lure them 31 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: into telling you things. And it's like it can be 32 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: a tool for good. It could be a tool for evil, sure, 33 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: But like when I hear your voice, it feels to 34 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: me like, I don't know, so personal, like we've gotten 35 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: to a place now where our friendship and are working 36 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: together has brought me to a place where when I 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: hear your voice, it like evokes a very strong emotion 38 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: for me. Oh that's really it's a good emotion. I 39 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: hope it is. It's like a singular like I feel 40 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: like your voice it's a very much like the minute 41 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: I hear it. I I don't know if it's because 42 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: we do zooms and like we see each other, you know, 43 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: in all different kinds of ways. But like the voice 44 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: is what connects us the most. Honestly, Yeah, I agree, No, 45 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: I agree, And that's I think that's very sweet and 46 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: it's nice that it evokes a nice feeling and you're 47 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: not like it's weird. Every time I hear your voice, 48 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: I throw up a little bit in my mouth, like 49 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: because that would be a much worse reaction. It's very sweet. 50 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: I think it just goes all goes back to what 51 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: like the original start of this conversation of me being awesome. 52 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of actually iconic. Kind everybody we 53 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: worked well, We worked well together. It's just the way 54 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 1: it is. And it's pronounced fred la oh man, don't 55 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: even get to frid what frieda lay? I have not 56 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: gotten free to lay? You know what I got for years, 57 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: which I'm surprised. Well, I mean you will occasionally call 58 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: me this, but for years and years and years, my 59 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: nickname for a lot of people, especially in Los Angeles 60 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: when I moved out here, was Wilfred because I say 61 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: my name so fast, I say my name is Wilfred L. 62 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: And so I had a lot of people that would say, oh, 63 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: Mr L, you know, can you sit there and wait? 64 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: Like they thought my name was Wilfred L. So that 65 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: became my nickname for year. I mean, like love Hewitt 66 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: and of all the first directors I worked with a 67 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: lot of people on boy Me's World, it was I 68 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: was Wilfred for years. So I always kind of liked 69 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: that nickname. It's a it's a good name. It's kind 70 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: of goofy and that. But yeah, because you say your 71 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: name so fast, him Wilfredell, and people would go, okay, Fredell. Yeah, 72 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: that's like I feel like that guy is a magician. 73 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: Though he feels like a magician. I'm well, yeah, well 74 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: would also be you'd have to put the amazing in 75 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: front of it. I'd be the amazing Wilfredel exactly, the epic, iconic, 76 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: one of a kindred. I can never I will never 77 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: not say it that way. I you know, I I am. 78 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm a magician at heart. I just don't know any 79 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: magic tricks. That's okay, which makes which makes being a 80 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: magician difficult, if I'm honest, if it makes the show 81 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: kind of boring where it's like, welcome, I have nothing. 82 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: I can't even balloon animals or anything. Very quickly, you 83 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: you have moved into your new house, which apparently is 84 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: just all white and empty, because now you're you're not 85 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: in front of your green screen, You're just in the 86 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: the white cavernous room they are feeding me. I am okay, 87 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: I'll hold up today's paper so we know this is live. 88 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Um. But yeah, I'm still getting around 89 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: to it. I mean, it's a lot to take on 90 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: when you move into a new space. 'susually when you're 91 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: like working from that space. Um, and it is it's tricky, 92 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: Like you you record from this amazing booth that I'm 93 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: sure you've had set up for a long time, right, Yeah, 94 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: a lot of years, Yeah, a lot of you Do 95 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: you remember setting up your bo both like I do. 96 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: I a friend of mine came in and you know, 97 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: I had this this smaller kind of office room in 98 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: my house and I knew I wanted a booth just 99 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: because if you remember back in the day, it's this 100 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 1: is such a lame actor thing, but it's it's true, 101 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: you have to um, but waiting for a booth at 102 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: at my agency at the time, there was times that 103 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: we take two or three hours. Literally you'd sit there 104 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: for two or three hours to get a booth. So um, 105 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: I you know, We've been fortunate in my career, and 106 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna I want to build one in 107 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: the house. So my friend came over who was a carpenter, 108 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: and we literally put it up and bought all the 109 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: equipment and everything I need. So it's it's a nice 110 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: little soundproof room, um, which has worked out well, especially 111 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: with all the podcasting I've been doing. It's kind of 112 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: I live in this room now. The only problem with 113 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: it is that there is no air whatsoever. So it's 114 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: a thousand degrees. I'm never wearing pants, um, and you 115 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: get a little high by the end of it because 116 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: of the carbon out of the car. No, I've got 117 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: a tiny little one of those little poor doable air 118 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: conditioners that sits next to me because it just gets 119 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: so hot in here. Good, So next time I do it, 120 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: I will now so you. I mean they say that 121 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: moving is like one of the most stressful things in 122 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: the world. They seem to be handling it well, or 123 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: at least really faking your way through it awesomely. Um, 124 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: thank you. You also haven't seen me for a few weeks, 125 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: and it's been a really rough couple of weeks, and 126 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: I've like track. Yeah, I've traveled. I went back to 127 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: l A. I recorded vulnerable and thanks for calling me. 128 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: By the way, you know I was telling Brandon about that. Yeah, 129 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: we need to do a part two, honestly because we 130 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: did a really great part one. And I mean again, 131 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: like I said, views man, you were in my Can 132 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: we talk about your anxiety and make a knacko hashtag? Sure? 133 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: Anxiety knacko? Uh no, but no, what I was to 134 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: see this is where your mind goes with business. I 135 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: wasn't talking about to be un vulnerable. I was talking 136 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: about just to hang out, calling me and being like, 137 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: let's grab a meal. You know what? I That is 138 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: my bad. I'm really really sorry. I'm really sorry because honestly, 139 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm always looking for someone to hang out after your work. Yeah, 140 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: that was my bad. I went to Marina del Rey 141 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: one night. Okay, now we're just, we're really just. But 142 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: we do have an awesome, amazing guest today who's actually 143 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: a friend of mine, not only a voice of what 144 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: I would call a v O buddy, but also a 145 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: D N D buddy. There's a lot of just letters 146 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: I've noticed when you're a v O and D and 147 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: D buddy. Okay, Um, l l uh. So I'm I'm 148 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: very excited to have her on t B. What is 149 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: what does that one mean? To be honest, that's t 150 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: B eight t B eight t B e b A. 151 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: To be honest, s m h is shake my head. 152 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: I've had to look these up. That's how I know. Now, 153 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: did you really you seem like you're in the know 154 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: for all this stuff. I really had to look this up. 155 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm at the point now where my husband's like, what 156 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: does that mean? And I'm just like, oh, I never 157 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: get that stuff. I found out l O L didn't 158 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: mean lots of love like a month ago. So yeah, 159 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: we're fine, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so, But I'm 160 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: sorry we haven't spoken in a while. How you diagrash 161 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: on this though? Like honestly, I bet people really love 162 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: to hear is check in with each other, like genuinely, 163 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: or they're like, just please get to the awesome guest 164 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: because as we've as we talked about earlier, my voice 165 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: evokes a little bit of throw up in the mouth. 166 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: So I want to make sure the amazing, the astounding 167 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: wilfred l L mr L No. We have an incredible 168 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: guest joining us today. She is an actress of best 169 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: selling author. She's on camera, she's voice over. She is 170 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: a D and D player, which makes her a great 171 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: buddy right there. But she's been in I mean stuff 172 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: like NB scenes, Blind Spot, Who Lose Runaway. She's also 173 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: in Miss Marvel. Her video game stuff is like overwatching 174 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: a pet, you name it. She's in it essentially books 175 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: and she I said, yeah, best time. I mean, it's 176 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: like you just she's one of those people where you 177 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: look through your resume and you just feel bad about yourself. 178 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: Um so, who do we have today? Oh? Man, we 179 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: have the most amazing Antolie Bamani. How are you? I'm good. 180 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: I smell like coffee because I just build an entire 181 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: cup all over myself. Oh did you really? That's always 182 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: the best way to start the day, just bathed in coffee. 183 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm so delicious. Now, you guys, that's pretty hot. Like 184 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: something to this, like a coffee scented bath. Yeah. Add 185 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: that to the list of products that we have to 186 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: develop together. Shell we yes, of course, How are you great? 187 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: How are You're awesome? It's nice to meet you, by 188 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: the way, thanks to me to do Christie Angelie Angelie 189 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: Chris Yes, will have you told her where we met 190 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: or how we met. I actually haven't. Would you like 191 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: to tell the story? Would you like me to tell 192 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: the story? I love it so much when you do so. 193 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: And Julie and I met in a hot tub in Hawaii, 194 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is absolutely a true story. We 195 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: always we always like to omit the part that she 196 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: was there with her husband and I was there with 197 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: my wife. You'd just like to say I knows, but 198 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: that don't just sound like it's true. Um, we are 199 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: going to start, Miss Marvel, because that's awesome, but then 200 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna get more into your v O stuff, because 201 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: this isn't icy faces and Julie, it's I hear voices, 202 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: it's I hear, I hear. So let's start, though, Miss Marvel, 203 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: because that was I think was you and I were 204 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: doing something I can't remember. It was a con or, 205 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: it was critical role, but we were doing something right 206 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: when you booked that, and you were so excited, didn't 207 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: I booked it at the end of two thousand not 208 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: the end, but like fall two thousand twenty, because that's why. 209 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: And we uh started shooting. I started shooting. I started 210 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: shooting in November November Funny November twenty. Maybe it was 211 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: maybe you knew you were going out for something, it 212 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: just happened supersed Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it was 213 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: probably that I knew it was coming out, but I 214 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: wasn't allowed to talk about what it was because we 215 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: really didn't know when it was coming out once we 216 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: had shot it and and and then there were reshoots 217 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: to do as well. So so it was literally just 218 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: me waiting for someone to tell me when the show 219 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: is coming out, which is you know, what happens with 220 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: half of what you do is just go, I can't 221 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: talk about it, and then next thing you know, it's 222 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: streaming and you're like, oh, I guess I can talk 223 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: about that now, right, And that's the same thing obviously 224 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: with games and animated series everything now everything lives and 225 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: dies by NBA Sea exactly, we're not allowed to talk, 226 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: we're not allowed to promote what we're doing until it's 227 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: already out. Well, so I have a question, because this 228 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: is a recurring thing that does happen to a lot 229 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: of our guests, what is it feel like to actually, 230 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say, be silenced, but essentially like 231 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: to commit to not speaking about something that you've done 232 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: that is coming and like, can you just walk us through, 233 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: um what that's like to not yeah somebody. Yeah, if 234 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: you see a poster and you're like, oh, I can't 235 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: see that. You're sitting next to somebody you know, and 236 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I can't sell them one of the dude. 237 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: I mean for me, Look, I am. I am allergic 238 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: to spoilers. I have unfriended relatives before because I because 239 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: they've spoiled things for me. So on the flip side 240 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: of that, I get really excited when I know it's 241 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: gonna be surprised. I'm gonna be able to tell everyone, 242 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: and yes, it's it's a little bit like you know, 243 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: sometimes it'll bruise your ego. I can't lie about that 244 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: when everybody else who gets to talk about it, but 245 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: you don't, and you're just waiting to be a part 246 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: of the fun. But when you finally do get to 247 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: share that, and especially in this instance with Miss Marvel, 248 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: because I was I was lucky enough that they allowed 249 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: that the announcement about me being and it came out 250 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: right like the day before the trailers, like the day before, 251 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: So I was very lucky that that, you know, the 252 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: Universe took care of me that with the Universe and Disney. Yeah. 253 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: So so in that sense, it was, you know, having 254 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: patience or at least looking like I had patience was 255 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: worth it. And uh and again I love surprising people. 256 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: I love you know, I don't. I don't even like 257 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: people showing me the full trailer of something that I'm 258 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: interested in seeing because I feel like it's really ruined something. Yeah. Yeah, 259 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: and especially when something has been having so much promotion 260 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: that it's building up. I tried to put I try. 261 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: I don't alwa I succeed, but I tried to put 262 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: my own like miaomiah oh, I really want to tell 263 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: people miamio. I try to put that to the technical term. 264 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: I try to put that aside um knowing that they 265 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: are they are, you know, putting things out sort of 266 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: strategically to keep that momentum. Sure, and just you know, 267 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: just because I know you so well and I know 268 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: you hate this um. Dartha's Luke's father, Rosebud was a 269 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: sled and Bruce Willis was dead the whole time. Um, 270 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: so good news is I at least saw all of 271 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: those and they're old enough that I can't get too mad, 272 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: but I'm so. I mean, I'm still the person who's like, yeah, 273 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: I was on the last season of The Sopranos, but 274 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: I can't tell you why in case you haven't seen it, 275 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: because and it's a soprano like three thousand years old. 276 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: When I'm like, no, if you haven't seen it, I 277 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: don't want to spoil it for you. Were you on 278 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: the last season the Sopranos, I wasn't. Where were you 279 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: in the last season of The Sopranos. I just rewatched 280 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: The Soprano. I can't tell you because where wait, wait, 281 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: which part were you in the last season of the Sopranos. Um, yeah, 282 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a doctor in the hospital in season six 283 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: because surprise, surprise, I'm Indian. Um So yeah, I mean, 284 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: what else am I going to do on The Sopranos? 285 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: My brother when I when I booked at when I 286 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: finally was able to tell my brother, who was like, 287 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: just please tell me you're not about a big girl. 288 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely, it was me. You're not playing a 289 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: stripper on this spoint. Really, so this is when Tony 290 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: was in the hospital. Now she's not telling I have 291 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: to go back and watch Againez listen. I actually think 292 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: this is wonderful because it answers my question in such 293 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: an amazing way. I think like you're the perfect person 294 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: to have asked this question too, And I wanted to 295 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: kind of extrapolate what that struggle is like because I 296 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: can see our guests are always struggling, and I'd say nine, 297 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: if not ten out of ten are on an n 298 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: d A and nondisclosure agreement. A huge voice over too, 299 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: because you're working so because because the stuff is, you're 300 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: you're recording something and then you don't see it for 301 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: another eight months when it comes back for animation. So 302 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: it's like, forget about eight months. You don't like serious, Yeah, 303 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: it can be years, and some of them are bad. 304 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: So it's like you've got nine projects coming out and 305 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: you can't talk about ten of them. What happens if 306 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: you were to mess up? It happens all the time, 307 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: It does happen, happen, It depends on the company. Um, 308 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: I live in fear of n d A is like 309 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: like I live in fear of the I r s 310 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: Like it's such a big thing to me. But I 311 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: also like my achilles heel in life is that I 312 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: live in fear of getting in trouble, even if I've 313 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: done something nothing wrong. I'm like, I know I did 314 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: something wrong and someone's gonna come out to me. So 315 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: I think it really depends on the company, and it 316 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: depends on the severity of what you've said, to the 317 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: severity of what you said, but also the intention. Yeah, like, 318 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: were you being an obvious over jerk about it. It's 319 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: going to use a different word, but we're a family show, yes, exactly, 320 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: because it could have been awful. Are you being like 321 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: very pointed about that? Or did you buy mistake post 322 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: a picture that you thought was just a view but 323 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: there was something in the background and they had to 324 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: call you up and take a dinner, you know, because 325 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: that's happened. I've seen that happen. I've seen that happen 326 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: with major spoilers, and people still have their jobs. But 327 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: if you are someone who is like actively going out 328 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: there and saying, well, screw the company, I'm going to 329 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: say this, then you know that's obviously illegal, that malicious, 330 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: malicious kind of I think, I think, or I'm not responsible. Yeah, 331 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know really specifically, 332 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: you play one on TV or you're going to play 333 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: one on TV and the doctors only I played doctors, 334 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: you guys, I played I played a lawyer onto you. 335 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure you have you know that could 336 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: happen someday if I could like see over, they'd have 337 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: to like put me on to put an apple box 338 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: on my chair so i'd be able to see over 339 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: the All right, so well, and speaking of being well, 340 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: first of all, that was not at all where I 341 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 1: thought you were going to go. I never thought speaking 342 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: of being short was the thing that was going to 343 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: come out. So I thought you were going to take 344 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: the next transition, So I'll take the next transition. Uh 345 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: since uh on? Can we always ask on camera versus 346 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: v O is do you have one you prefer? But 347 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: if you'd rather do the short thing, we could talk 348 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: about that. Um I can tell I can combine the two. Nice. 349 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,479 Speaker 1: Um I do not prefer either. I think of like 350 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: on camera, voiceover, theater, musicals, whatever. I think of it 351 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: all as different languages with the same route. So I 352 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: love speaking French, I love speaking Spanish. They come from 353 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: the same root, but the completely different languages. So when 354 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: you think in a different language, sometimes some of it 355 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: spills over the way you're learning. It is very similar 356 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: because there are similarities, but ultimately it is its own 357 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: thing right, with its own pros and cons. And what 358 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: I love about like, I am physically incapable of choosing 359 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: one medium, and I used to think that that was 360 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: because of a lack of focus, but now I realize 361 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 1: it's because I love all of the different pros and 362 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: cons or all of the different individual ways that you 363 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: can tell a story that are specific to each medium. 364 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: So what I love so much about One of the 365 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: things I love so much about voiceover is that you 366 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: are not bound by your physical attributes. I don't have 367 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: to play play a petite Indian woman who looks a 368 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: particular way. I can be a dinosaur. I can be 369 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: a dragon, I can be a little kid, I can 370 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: be a little boy. Like it doesn't matter at all, um, 371 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: I can be any it can be anything, and then 372 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: I'm not and I'm not beholden to that. I also 373 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: think what's really fun about voice over. I love mic 374 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: technique in general as a tool to convey different amounts 375 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: of emotion, and I love that as a singer and 376 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: as a voice actor, because there is just something you 377 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: can make you can make the most intimate connection with 378 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: your audience or with the players of your game or whatever. 379 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 1: You can have the most intimate moment just being right 380 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: up there against the mic and just a breath somehow 381 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: captures an emotion which is not something you can do 382 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: in the theater, which is not something you can Sometimes 383 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: you can't even do it on film, depending on how 384 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: well it's it's it's kind of the it's the the 385 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: audio equivalent of a raised eyebrow on film. You know, 386 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: it's that kind of thing. It's that subtle kind of 387 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: technique that is just so there's what we always talk about, 388 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: the wonderful freedom that comes with voice over. The again, 389 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: not caring how you look. It doesn't matter how you look. 390 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're wearing makeup, it doesn't matter 391 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 1: where you're standing, it doesn't matter. You know. It's like 392 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: you just you just get to act with a microphone. 393 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: It's pretty and some of the best actors in the world. 394 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: And when we're doing voiceover that isn't macap when which 395 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: I still don't think. I really think that mocab needs 396 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: to be considered like that's on camera. I really still don't. 397 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 1: I still don't understand why the contracts are so much 398 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: closer to voice over contracts. But that's a whole other 399 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: thing about well because nobody, because because video games don't 400 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: make any money, um, none at all. It's really just 401 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: for the love of the art. Um, that's what the 402 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: company do. But anyway, I digress. UM, I feel like, um, 403 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: unless you're you're doing because I was making so many 404 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: jokes on top of one. Will Will, it's Will know 405 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: I do it. Will and I both do this. That's 406 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: why we get along. So sorry, I didn't even I 407 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 1: didn't remember that Christie was here. Um, I just yeah, exactly, 408 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: But how could you I'm kidnapped, you know you're talking 409 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: about unless you're doing. Unless you're doing mo cap, you 410 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: do have the freedom of not having to memorize all 411 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: your lines, right, And while I have no problem memorizing lines, 412 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: I actually like memorizing lines. I like having it in 413 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: my bones. There is a certain freedom knowing that I 414 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: can come in and I'm not gonna have to I'm 415 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: not gonna have to worry about any kind of memorization 416 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: or screwing up because it's right here, So that part 417 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: of my mental energy I can take that energy back 418 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: and put it towards the creative process, because chances are 419 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: also while you're doing that, while you're while you're recording, 420 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: someone in the booth is gonna be like, oh, I mean, 421 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: someone in the control room is gonna be like, actually, 422 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: you know what, We're gonna give you a red right now. 423 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: So you are completely free knowing that it's all going 424 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: to be off the cuff. It's all going to be 425 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: right there. Um, And I really, I really do love 426 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: the freedom of that, uh, in a similar way to 427 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 1: how much I love improv and long form improve um, 428 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: which is why I love t t RPGs, which Will 429 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: and I are also very heavily. Oh man, she did it. Okay, 430 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: So Chris, do you want to take that transition? What's 431 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: it like being short? And oh my god, I actually 432 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: feel so dumb because honestly, look, she wrote a book. 433 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: Oh that's where you were going with it, that's where 434 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: you're going. I totally knew that's where she was going 435 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: with it all. Thank you. I'm glad see you. You 436 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: know I am fun sized and so are you. Thoughts 437 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: from a Tidy Human on living a giant life. It's 438 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: wide release was September twenty six and it was funded 439 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: through a Kickstarter campaign in five days. Because you know why, 440 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 1: because you do have so much love for you and 441 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: I bet you just have such a great fan base 442 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: from all the amazing work that you've done. Well. Again, 443 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: not to sound super cheesy, because I really do believe this, 444 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: but I have a really hard time using the word 445 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: fan because these are people, Because especially and especially with 446 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: a Kickstarter situation, like that's a community situation. That's the 447 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: thing where you've you've built a group of people that 448 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: you like to be with and around, and it's there's 449 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: not that much of a there's a separation just because 450 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: you know one person is creating the things and and 451 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: other are are participating in them. But it's very much 452 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: a symbiotic relationship, which we see so much when we're 453 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: at conventions, right, We see so much anytime you get 454 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: a chance to interact with people who have either played 455 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: the game you're in, or into the show that you're doing, 456 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: or or listen to the web series the podcaster, read 457 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: the book, there's there's definitely this this symbiotic relationship. It's 458 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: almost I always look at Kickstarter and stuff like that 459 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: almost like those are it's a community of producers. It's 460 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: like it's like they're producing this is a project they 461 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: want to produce with you in it. And that's kind 462 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: of how I look at it as opposed to like, oh, 463 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: it's fan made. It's like, no, that's it's not the 464 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah, And crowdfunding, you know, crowdfund And one 465 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: of the great things about crowdfunding in any form is 466 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: that it is proof that there's an audience for the 467 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: thing that you're creating, or if you're someone who's like 468 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: you know, because kickstarters sometimes people will do their products 469 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: there and there's proof that there's a desire for that product. 470 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: But what was so lovely about doing this through Kickstarter 471 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: is that, you know, I am fun Sized. The series 472 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: was a web series that I started in two thousand 473 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: seventeen as a sort of love letter to the online 474 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: gaming community and artistic community that I hadn't met um 475 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: in the in the like six months before that, pretty 476 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: much from from the release of Overwatch and then all 477 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: of these other things things that I started getting to 478 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: do with them and so being able to create that 479 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: for them and with them, I wasn't sure. You still 480 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: wonder like, does anyone really need a book. Is that 481 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: a thing do people care? So being able to do 482 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: it with Kickstarter is not just it's not just proof 483 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: that you can raise the money. It's proof that people 484 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: want the thing. That. Yeah, such a since this was 485 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: such a labor of love and it's so personal and 486 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: it's so um it's so very specifically in line with 487 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: what I consider my purpose uh in life, which is 488 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: just to help people find that it's cultivate enthusiasm, to 489 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: find that excitement about who you are and what you 490 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: want to do and the things that you want to 491 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: get regardless of where you are, regardless of who you are, 492 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: figure out what it is that is unique about you 493 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: and lean into it. And now that just because you're unique, 494 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: you are not alone. You are never alone. And so 495 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: having that that personal thing be something that people really 496 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: wanted to be a part of was like that alone 497 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: was was just incredibly special, and so doing the Kickstarter 498 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: was it was as fun as writing the book, you know, 499 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: I mean the nitty gritty of putting a book out, 500 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: and especially because I started my own publishing company in 501 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: order to do it, because I was frustrated with the 502 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: publishing industry. Um Uh, that nitty gritty part is where 503 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: the for me, the difficult part is. But the creation 504 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: and the sharing it and um and the you know, 505 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 1: doing the audiobook, it was just fun, fun, fun, fun fun. Now, 506 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: who did you? Who did you hire? Did you the 507 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: voice in the audiobook? Didn't you? I thought you did it? 508 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: That's who I told you? Like him? Fun sized? No? 509 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I knew you had the swagger 510 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: to be me, and I knew your Indian accent was 511 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: on point, so I figured, and there's nothing inappropriate about that. Yeah, 512 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 1: me doing a small Indian woman nowadays? Not at all, 513 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: not at all all right. So you we we talked 514 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: about the book, which everybody should go out and read 515 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: because it's awesome. And where can we buy that? Everywhere 516 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: you can. You can get the audio book is on Audible, 517 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: slash Amazon. You can also get the e book on 518 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: Amazon or Barnes and Noble, and you can get the 519 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: paperback on Amazon or if you go to stremely dot com, 520 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: slash Angeli Bamanti, you can not only get you can 521 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: get the book unsigned or signed, and a portion of 522 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: the proceeds will go to an organization called the Underdog 523 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: Community Project here in Los Angeles, which provides free veterinary 524 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: care to the pets of unhoused people here. Oh go 525 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: get that one. Go get that version, please go go 526 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: to streamely dot com. Also, the book itself, just the 527 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: experience of the book itself. I made very sure and 528 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: this is the main reason I ran the kick starters. 529 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: I really wanted this to be a high quality printed book. 530 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: So it's it's the It's just feels fun to read. 531 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: And the illustrations of Bivibrian trowing are just so freaking adorable. 532 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: So getting to have that in well you can see 533 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: behind me is just a part of my fantasy collection. 534 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: These are You need actual books, You need books, you 535 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: need an actual dude, I have, I have. I don't 536 00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: want to turn this around so you don't say the 537 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: way the rest of my ridiculously and embarrassingly messy office. 538 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: But like I have those floating bookshelfs Now, I'm gonna 539 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: get some floating bookshelves. Okay, guys, I'm gonna from those. 540 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, those are super easy, Christie, and they 541 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: make they look really cool. Okay, I'm going to turn 542 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: this round. You can they look they look like they're 543 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: in the Atlanta Four Seasons you have the Atlanta four 544 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: seasons like that. That's helpful, especially space. And you also 545 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: have a you also have the picture of of the 546 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: dancing people. I have that same one in my house. 547 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, James, Dean and Elizabeth. Yeah, I don't. Actually 548 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: you mentioned Overwatch, and I think we would be remiss 549 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: if we did not talk a little bit about the 550 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: Halo video games about about Overwatch, So sure, Hugh, I 551 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: mean enormous games and they Overwatch. It's I mean, I've 552 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: been at conventions with you, and it's insane the following 553 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: that these games have. What is it like to do 554 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: a game that you know? I mean, essentially you're going 555 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: into one of the best of the best when you 556 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: go into these kind of worlds. So what is it 557 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: like to you talked about mo cap What is it 558 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: like to actually record, for lack of a better word, 559 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: some of these games. Well, first of all, when we 560 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: started recording, none of us knew it was going to 561 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: be that huge, and that's a great place to come in. 562 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: It's just like going into a movie and not knowing 563 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: who your co stars are and then finding out this 564 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: person has like nineteen oscars, Like you better off not 565 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: knowing in advance. I knew going into this that it 566 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: was Blizzards, so you knew they don't do anything half asked. 567 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: You know it was going to be good, but none 568 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: of us. I don't even think the developers had any 569 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: idea just how big the game was going to be. 570 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: And again I really attribute that to the community, to 571 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: the way that they grabbed onto these characters in this story, um, 572 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: and obviously to the developers because they're the typically with 573 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: Overwatch and with several of the games that I've been 574 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: involved with since then, but this was the first one 575 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: that I experienced it with. They came in with a 576 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: very hopeful message and a hopeful view of the future. 577 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: It's a world worth fighting for. The world could always 578 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: use more heroes. There's this very much this sense that like, 579 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: even when there is trouble and dystopia and all of 580 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: that stuff in the future, there is hope as opposed 581 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: to it's a post apocalyptic world and we're all going 582 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: to die. Let's just kill zombies until we do. You know, 583 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: there's something which there's a place for that. There's something 584 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: very partning about about stepping into a game like that, 585 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: and then it's a collaborative game on top of it. 586 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: But I really I what I love so much about 587 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: going into this in the first like, in the first place, 588 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: without knowing anything, is that it was very clear when 589 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: I first saw my characters Cemetra, it was very clear 590 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: that what they were trying to do with all of 591 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: these they were what they were doing with all of 592 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: these characters was creating a series of characters who are 593 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: not any one thing in terms of their full story. 594 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: They are a unique combination of all the things that 595 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: make them them. So it's not just the Indian one, 596 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: the Mexican one, the Brazilian one. It is okay, well 597 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: she's Indian, she's in stem, she's on the spectrum, she 598 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: has a background in Indian dance. Like, there's all this 599 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: complexity to this character, and there's all this comerplexity to 600 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: the things that they say and do in the game. 601 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,239 Speaker 1: And when you're doing a first person shooter, it can 602 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: be very like not it's easy for it to be 603 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: not that deep. But they really took that and made 604 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: it so that there is someone or something because some 605 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: of the characters are not human, uh, there there is 606 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: some one for everyone to identify with in one way 607 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: or the other, whether it is in an emotional capacity 608 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: and experiential capacity. Your gender, your body type, your ethnicity, 609 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: your neurodiversity, whatever it is. There's something for someone for 610 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: everyone to identify with. And when you see the hero 611 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: that you identify with, there you see that depiction of 612 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: that hero that you can identify with, then you can 613 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: identify that hero in yourself. You can take that empowerment 614 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: and take it out into the world. And that's sexy. 615 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: That for me, is what storytelling and gaming really like. 616 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: That's that's where it becomes very powerful when everyone's experience, 617 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: when you when you have an experience where you're like, wow, 618 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: I feel seen. And if that is there and that 619 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: character is that powerful or that popular or just out 620 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: there in the world and the world is seeing it, 621 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: then I can be seen. Then I can feel confident. 622 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: Then all the things I think make me weird might 623 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: actually make me cool. I think that's a great way 624 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: of looking at it. It's also but it's also one 625 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: of those things that I love is when it comes 626 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: to the technology, that is it has now become the 627 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: video game. We are to a place where when video 628 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: games started, the character ran one direction. That was it 629 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: you kind of pressed the buttons and you did what 630 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: you have to do. You are now, for lack of 631 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: a better term, in control of your own destiny. So 632 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: there's something so cool about this world you can immerse 633 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: yourself in where it's up to you. That's it's like life. 634 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: You are and you have agency you. Yeah, this is 635 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: another reason why I think both with video games now 636 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: and with and with gtrpgs, I think there's something so 637 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: empowering about it. Because it's one thing to see a 638 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: movie or see a TV show or see a play 639 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: where someone is telling you a story. It's a whole 640 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: different thing when you are telling your story. I agree, 641 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: it's a whole different thing. And your identification and your 642 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: connection to those characters. I think that's why you know, 643 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: when we when we have those experience as a conventions 644 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: where lots of people are coming up and loving those characters, 645 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: it's because they feel like they're they are a part 646 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: of them, and they are a part of creating them. 647 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: They have a certain amount of ownership over them because 648 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: they are to them. They're telling the story as this 649 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: character that characters them for a short period of Now 650 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: I have to ask you a question, though, do you 651 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: I feel like there's becoming a bit of a I 652 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's a strange kind of uhum. I 653 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: don't even know the word I'm looking for. It's it's 654 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: a dichotomy that's happening in voiceover that doesn't translate to RPGs, 655 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: especially to something like the world of D and D 656 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: or something like that, which is and I think rightfully 657 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: so in the vo world, so vo is starting to change, 658 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: and I think it's changing for the better word. It's 659 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: becoming more open to people of color, to uh gender. 660 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: And back in the day, they would throw us in 661 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: a booth and it was like, you're gonna do five voices, 662 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: and it didn't matter if you're a woman, it didn't 663 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: matter if you're Indian, it didn't matter whatever it was, 664 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: which wasn't obviously the right way to do it. In 665 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: the world of the of D and D especially and 666 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: the kind of RPGs, it's all you're almost encouraged to 667 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: play outside of your box, to play, to play a woman, 668 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: to play absolutely play you know, a man for a man, 669 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: to play a woman, to play a character that is gay, 670 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: to play a character that might be transgender. It's encouraged 671 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: to almost because you're immersing yourself in the world. There's 672 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: an idea that maybe you'll get to walk a mile 673 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: in someone choose, even though you can't. I mean, nobody can. 674 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: But it's because I think the reason for that, well, 675 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: part of the reason for that is that with the 676 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: very few exceptions, when you're playing a video game, the 677 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: character has been created. Sure you right, so you are, 678 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: you are playing as that character. You don't necessarily have 679 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: control over what you get to choose, your avatari to choose. Like, 680 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, some fifty year old guy could be playing 681 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: Tracer from Overwatch, and that's totally fine because it's that's 682 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: the character they're playing. But because when you're playing T 683 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: t rpg is because when you are creating these characters, 684 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: you are You are the character you are improvising in 685 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: their shoes. You are the actor. You're not just the player. 686 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: You are the actor creating this character. So unless people 687 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: when people are watching t t RPGs, it's one thing 688 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: because again you're watching it as entertainment. But when you 689 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: are actually playing the game, you are the creator of 690 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: your own world. You are the creator of that story. 691 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: But I guess I'm asking why, why do you think 692 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: that Paradixit paradox exists. Why do you think there's people 693 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: out there that are now saying, like, well, Nancy Cart 694 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: writes a woman she shouldn't be playing a boy. Well, 695 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: I don't agree with some I mean you you'll hear 696 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: it in places where men shouldn't be playing women when 697 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: should be playing men. So we are in a very 698 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 1: tricky time right now because while the movement towards inclusivity 699 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: and representation, inclusion is so important and it's so wonderful, 700 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: because we do want to see more than just the 701 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: same demographic that we have seen in all of our lives. 702 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: I think when we limit people to only limit stories 703 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: to only being told by the people who have lived 704 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: those stories, and limit characters to only being played by 705 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: the people who lived those characters, what not only are 706 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: we limiting the artistic creativity and freedom of people, but 707 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: the bad, the really awful outcome of that is that 708 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: the very people you are trying to create more opportunity for, 709 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: you're actually creating less oportunity for. You know, again, I'll 710 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: go back, I'll go back to Miss Marvel with this. 711 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: You know, there was a little bit of backlash because 712 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: some of the characters who were supposed to be Pakistani 713 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: were played by Indians. Never mind that historically Pakistani in 714 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: India were the same country up until but this sense 715 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: of if there is a respectful portrayal being done of someone, 716 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: if someone has done the resurge and is doing the 717 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: work to create a character, then do we really need 718 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: them to be exactly the character they're playing? Are only 719 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: one ethnicity allowed to play that? Are we going to 720 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 1: start doing it by religion? Are we going to start 721 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: doing it like what where does where does the line 722 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: get drunk? You know? And that's a really really I 723 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: think it's it can be a slippery slope because I 724 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: certainly am finding this in my own life, uh and 725 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: my own audition pool, particularly on camera, that it's becoming 726 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: narrower and narrower and narrower and narrower, narrower, and ostensibly 727 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: I am one of the people that inclusivity and representation 728 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: is supposed to be absolutely So that's fascinating. So that 729 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: puts a very that that puts a it's a slippery slope. Well, 730 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: I mean I think it's it's no, I don't think 731 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: anybody does yet. And I think it's one of those 732 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: things where you have time. Casting seems to be something 733 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: that is well, but I mean kind of, but it's 734 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,240 Speaker 1: it's the thing that I think matters is everybody's I believe, 735 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: at least coming at it from the best intentions, which 736 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: is at least a good place to start. But that 737 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: but then that's where it then gets messy because you 738 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: do I always go to the hey, a straight actor 739 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: should never play a gay character. It's like, okay, but 740 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: then you're saying a gay actor can't play a straight character. 741 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: And there's a lot more straight characters out there that 742 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: need to be cast than there are gay characters, and 743 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: you're then taking an entire pool of talented gay actors 744 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 1: out of the mix. So we're to figure it out. Yeah, 745 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: we're all trying to figure it out. Like you said, 746 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: the intentions are the best, and I think I think, 747 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: really where the power to either destroy or create in 748 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: this in this circumstance really is in the hands of 749 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 1: the audiences, because usually I find that the outrage for 750 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 1: a miscast comes from the audience more than it does 751 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,720 Speaker 1: necessarily from the acting, pay of the producing and whatnot. 752 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: And sometimes you look and again it's like sometimes you 753 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: look at it and you can't explain why, but you're like, 754 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, that's wrong. And sometimes there's a there's a 755 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: like is it you know, like there's it's it's it's 756 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: it's what did that? What did that? One? That? One 757 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: Supreme Court judge say that the famous thing about pornography 758 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: is I I can't describe it, but I know it 759 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: when I see it. It's that it's that same kind 760 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: of thing. But that's why I mentioned role playing games, 761 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: because it seems like people should almost look to that 762 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: world because it's so inclusive and so get you know, 763 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. You want to play well men, 764 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: play a woman, you want to play a man, play 765 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 1: a man. You know, by the it seems like when 766 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: you make them so outlandish with something where it's like 767 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,879 Speaker 1: they're from their elves, so then you can use them. 768 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: That right, there is the key that's your entree. And 769 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: that's because it is a fantasy. Because because you are 770 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: a gnome or an elf or an orc or a 771 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, we're already encouraged to think outside our own experience. 772 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 1: We're already and and what's extra cool about that is 773 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 1: that while you're encouraged to think outside your own experience 774 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: you are also encouraged to explore your own personal understanding 775 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: of yourself, of humanity of people in sociology. This is 776 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: why I love science fiction and fantasy because each one 777 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: of them is just reality adjacent enough that we can 778 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: talk about the hard issues without necessarily like breaking ourselves out, 779 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, you know, sci fi 780 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: is fantastic at dealing with socio political issues, dealing with also, 781 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,720 Speaker 1: like I look back at the Expanse as great example 782 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: of that, you know, because the Expanse came out and 783 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: in that future, okay, well there wasn't racism, but there 784 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: was planetism, you know, so there was we were still 785 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: deeply were still dealing with the same innate struggle in 786 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: humanity between these you know, for lack of a better term, 787 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: good and bad sides of us. But it was just 788 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: a different set of plot points. But because it was 789 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: reality adjacent, because it was set in a not so 790 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: distant future, we were able to be as viewers just 791 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: distant enough from it to look at look back at ourselves, 792 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: take it in, and we could take it in and 793 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: not feel like, well, they're saying I'm an a whole, 794 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: Like no, they're pointing out these potential these potential you know, 795 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: potholes or whatever you want to consider potential parts of 796 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: our experience as living beings that are a challenge and 797 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: that need to be dealt with. And I love that. 798 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: Have you read Ancilliary Justice? So Ancilliary Justice is by 799 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: a woman named and lecky Uh, and it is an 800 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: amazing sci fi story that when I first heard about it, 801 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, what is this going to be like? 802 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: Because this and she wrote this years ago. It's written 803 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,439 Speaker 1: without gender, so it's it's a sci fi story where 804 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: the characters you don't there's no gender attached to any 805 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: of the characters. And at first you're like, how is 806 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: this going to work? And then it just sucks you. 807 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 1: It's amazing. And this is where circling all the way 808 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: back to the power of storytelling in any form. This 809 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: is why I love all of the different forms that 810 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: we can do it in, because no, just like no 811 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: one person should be the representative of their entire demographic, 812 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: no one medium needs to be the representative of the 813 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: best way to start agree. Okay, so then when it 814 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 1: comes to um somebody who made listen to our podcast 815 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: is extremely passionate about voice acting and the world that 816 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: you know they would work in where it's mostly them 817 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, I think, but would you encourage them 818 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: to try different forms or would you just say, look, 819 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: if that's what you're passionate with, than just really lead 820 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: into that uniqueness of who you are, or I say, hey, 821 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 1: push yourself, get out of your comfort zone. It will 822 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: deep in your experience. Well, I always think get out 823 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: of your comfort zone. But you can do that in 824 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: multiple ways, right, even though I have my hand in 825 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: a exilient different things because that's that's what I've enjoyed. 826 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: It hasn't been from the beginning. I started in theater. 827 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 1: That was my way in, and then another lane opens up, 828 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: and you tried that, and I tried that, and then 829 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: another lane opened up and I tried that. So it 830 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: wasn't just me being like I just want to do 831 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: everything from the very beginning. You have have to have 832 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: somewhere that is your entree to something. So for a 833 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 1: lot of people, I suspect that there will be people. 834 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 1: I know that there are people who have gone into 835 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: voice acting and suddenly been like, you know what, maybe 836 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: I want to do play or maybe I want to 837 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: do on camera. Now that I've experienced storytelling in this way, 838 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: I wonder what it would be like to do X, 839 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 1: Y Z, you know. And that is again a function 840 00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: of pushing your own boundaries, combined with finding a love 841 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: of storytelling that you didn't maybe necessarily know you had, 842 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: combined with realizing, oh, well, this medium is awesome for 843 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: this reason, but this medium is awesome for this reason, 844 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: and I kind of want to scratch that itch, so 845 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: let me jump over there and see what I can 846 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: do with that. And so it's like a mixture of 847 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 1: like listening to your inner voice, your inner artistic voice, 848 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: and then also um yeah, just not being afraid and 849 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 1: being really I'm not saying no for lack. I mean, 850 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: like obviously you say no to things that you don't 851 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: really want to do, or or that ethically you don't 852 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: feel just don't feel aligned with or whatever. But um, 853 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: while I jumped into the theater and I loved it, 854 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 1: I never in a million years, like I can't remember 855 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: a single time in my life being like, well, I'm 856 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 1: not going to do that medium because snooty makes Neuterson me. 857 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that that's good enough. No, It's just 858 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,879 Speaker 1: it was just an exciting new opportunity to try something new, 859 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: and I think you do throw yourself in completely to 860 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: the one that you the one that you love, and 861 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: you stick with it. But I don't have to be 862 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,760 Speaker 1: And I would argue you really shouldn't be singlemindedly focused 863 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: to the point of a meeting anything else. You can't 864 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: have blinders on in that way, like stay focused, but 865 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: don't stay closed. I agree, A wonderful way, such a 866 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,720 Speaker 1: good mentor that's a wonderful way to get us to 867 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: our next little segment here on I hear voices, So 868 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: of course we are. We are once again going to 869 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: go across the garden. So for Angelie, I think you 870 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: know that we are bringing in an amateur voice over 871 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: actor who is going to get a chance to come 872 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,479 Speaker 1: and play with us. And this is of course leading 873 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: up to our very awesome Uh jeez, what was the 874 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: name of our contest again, Christie? I can never remember 875 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: the name of it. Again, Christie, I can't remember what's 876 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: it called. What's it called, super amazing contest to become 877 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 1: the world's next voice It's the super awesome Contest to 878 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: become the next big voice actor. Of course, it's coming up. 879 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: She was she was close she was close. As my 880 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: brother used to tell me, close only counts and horse 881 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: shoes and hand grenades. So um, yes, well that's nice. Um. 882 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: We are, of course, uh bringing in our special guests. 883 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: But yes, we will talk more about the super awesome 884 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 1: contest Become the Next Big Voice Actor, which will be 885 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: launching very soon. And uh, somebody out there is going 886 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,359 Speaker 1: to get a chance to have a career. I you know, 887 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: you win some pretty incredible things, including a one year 888 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: contract with a major voice over agency. So you are 889 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: going to get a chance to actually come out here. 890 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: That is just one where that is just one of 891 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: many of the prizes we have. You are also going 892 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: to be flown out to Los Angeles. You are going 893 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: to get to record some stuff for my heart. Uh. 894 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 1: There is some pretty incredible things that are going to 895 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: be happening. And there's also a couple of things we 896 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: are not allowed to mention yet, but we'll be mentioning soon. 897 00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 1: And Angelie, when I tell you what they are off, 898 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm around, you are going to freak Ali everybody. I'm 899 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: Tyler Florence and I'm Wells Adams were the hosts of 900 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: the new podcast Two Dudes in the Kitchen you might 901 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 1: be asking yourself, why do these guys have a podcast? 902 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 1: Because we love food. You and I have known each 903 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: other for a while. We've got a chance to click 904 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: together on television on Food Network back in the day, 905 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 1: and uh, I gotta tell you, there's no two better 906 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: guys are more equipped to take you guys on a 907 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: journey through the kitchen. It's all about great recipes, it's 908 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 1: all about connecting with fantastic techniques and having a great time. 909 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 1: Why you're doing it. It's a podcast for you, for 910 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: you to call into, give us your feedback, and we're 911 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 1: here to answer your questions and kind of get those 912 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 1: kitchen burners fired up. I got a lot of questions 913 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: just because I'm not nearly as good of a chef 914 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 1: as you are. So I'm gonna be asking you a 915 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 1: lot of questions, and you guys out there can ask 916 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 1: him as well. It's gonna be a lot of phone 917 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna learn a lot and you know what, most importantly, 918 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna eat good. We're gonna eat good. Man, eat 919 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: good in the neighborhood. Man, We're here for you. Listen 920 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,919 Speaker 1: to Two Dudes in the Kitchen on the I Heart 921 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: Radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. 922 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: We've got Zach with us today. Now I have to 923 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: say something about Zach. So we have been unfortunately going 924 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: back and forth with Zach where we've had guests that 925 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 1: have had to cancel me very busy guests because they're awesome. 926 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 1: And so Zach is back with us, uh finally and 927 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: has been waiting and waiting and waiting so patiently to 928 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,879 Speaker 1: come and play across the garden, which, of course we 929 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: uh know it's our wonderful characters. Ricky and Mocha are 930 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 1: still trying to get across this little garden to get 931 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: to the mall so that Mocha can see her boyfriend. 932 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: These are stories and characters we came up with in 933 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,919 Speaker 1: two seconds, Angelie, and we have ever regretted it ever since. 934 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,919 Speaker 1: So you are going to be Officer Johnson, and uh, 935 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: Zack Chisholm. I think I'm saying that correctly is going 936 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 1: to be Officer Taylor. Um. I these every week and 937 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: they are absolutely getting weirder and weirder. So I apologize 938 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: for the strangeness of this episode all the way around. 939 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm here for it. I'm here for it 940 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 1: and are you guys you guys people. Yeah, no, Ricky 941 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: Lokar mice across getting across and there's Zack. Zach is back. Yes, 942 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: we're here year and it's official. And we've got now 943 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 1: two people in l A and two people in Texas. 944 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: So before we jump into across the car and Zach, 945 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 1: which we're of course going to do, and you will 946 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: be playing Officer Taylor um very quickly. I hear you 947 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 1: like to try to voice match ron Stoppable. I try. 948 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 1: I'm being so let me hear your best ron Stoppable. 949 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 1: All right, So the best one that I know is 950 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 1: Wayne Rufus is like crawling inside Ron's pocket. Okay, and 951 00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 1: I got my cargo pants mash to go and that's 952 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 1: pretty good. That's that's pretty good. That's pretty good. He 953 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 1: had the the the sort of the higher register of 954 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: he and he's got you gotta get a little more 955 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 1: zal to get up there with mast Derek go the nacko. 956 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,840 Speaker 1: That works nice. So we're going to jump into across 957 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: the garden and uh, I think, if if memory serves, 958 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,879 Speaker 1: the last time we we saw Ricky and Mocha, they 959 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 1: were coming off of a pirate ship. I think is 960 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,399 Speaker 1: what happened or did we or were they coming off? 961 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought it was the Psychedelic 962 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,799 Speaker 1: Mushroom Trip, but that might have been the year. I 963 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 1: can't remember. Yeah, there was a mushroom trip, and then 964 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: it was the Titanic. Did we do the Titanic one? 965 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. We're all over the place. That's where 966 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 1: it was. We were on Titanic last time. Yes, we 967 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 1: were on the Titanic the last time. I will be 968 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 1: reading the stage directions. I'm also Ricky and of course 969 00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: Christie as Mocha. So we fade in exterior woods mall continuous, 970 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 1: a soaking wet Ricky and Mocha step out of the 971 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:08,319 Speaker 1: lake and shake off the excess water. Look, I know 972 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: it's been like a while since I've been in the water, 973 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: but I think with a little work, I could get 974 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,800 Speaker 1: my lap times back. I hate wet, for it always 975 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 1: smells like wet. For I swear, the first thing I'm 976 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 1: doing when I get to this stupid mall is going 977 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 1: to the saloon. Wait, the saloon or a salon, We'll 978 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:36,320 Speaker 1: take whichever one pops up first. Where is the sun? 979 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: I could really use some heat right about now. Both 980 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 1: Ricky Mocha, look up to see the sun is being 981 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 1: blocked by the mall. Moca, they smile and hug. Did 982 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:57,359 Speaker 1: they start to laugh? You're on. They turn and take 983 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: off towards the mall. They only get a few steps 984 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 1: when lights and side rs appear behind him, so they 985 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 1: stopped running and quote pull over to the side. A 986 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 1: little squad car pulls in behind him and to praying mantis. 987 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 1: Police officers step out. Uh, Mocha, you're not like holding anything, 988 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: are you? Are you? Of course not? The police unter up, 989 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: We like you almost going four miles? You think this 990 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 1: is um In the Anatolis race? What's a good racing analogy? 991 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 1: In the Anapolis works? You could have also said Daytona. 992 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 1: Both would have been acceptable race and analogy. If you 993 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,800 Speaker 1: recall I actually started this entire conversation with the colloquial 994 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 1: where's the fire? The better analogy would have been to 995 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 1: stay with the fire theme. Fire analogy a little obscared. No, 996 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 1: that couldn't be argued that obscure could even more creative. 997 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 1: An interesting question, although an ashamed would make good fire analogy, 998 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 1: knowed me at the moment, you mean regards to the 999 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,800 Speaker 1: situation or entirely in regard that this situation. Of course, 1000 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 1: can you imagine if there's a fire analogy entirely I 1001 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:14,320 Speaker 1: would be under using. Okay, I don't understand what's happening. 1002 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: I'm not sure they even know that we're still here. 1003 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 1: The officers pay Ricky in moching, No mind me an 1004 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 1: example a fire analogy that pertains to our current situation, 1005 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 1: please a challenge? Okay, and I said where's the fire? 1006 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 1: You followed it up with you must be headed to 1007 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: a fill? Because Ricky turns around, Yeah, that doesn't really work, 1008 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,879 Speaker 1: because why would our feet be smoking if we were 1009 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: going to a fire. He's right, m m to shame. Okay, 1010 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,400 Speaker 1: what do you is this actually happening? Okay, how about 1011 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: after you said where's the fire? You said, um, anybody 1012 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 1: hadn't air must be fast because they'd have to have 1013 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 1: the marshmallows. A little bit woody, isn't. I'm also not 1014 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 1: sure it reflects exactly what we were trying to say. Okay, 1015 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:17,800 Speaker 1: all right, well then how about I can take this anymore? 1016 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 1: Can you please just give us our tickets and take 1017 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 1: us to jail or whatever? Oh no, you're free to go. Yeahs. 1018 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,839 Speaker 1: We also like stopping people and asking them where they're headed, 1019 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 1: using different colloquialisms that will be off, like the ether 1020 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 1: and they turned to walk back to their cars in 1021 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,759 Speaker 1: the night while we're dressed like cabs white? Why why 1022 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 1: are use that the car drives away a saloon first? 1023 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 1: Definitely a saloon, yes, Zack, al right, really buddy, well 1024 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: that one was really fun. See what it was. The 1025 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 1: screenwriting is solid. Yeo really is man and he's so talented. 1026 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:13,239 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. Zach is nice 1027 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 1: meeting you. You can follow me on the reel Chism 1028 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: the real zac Chisum. Yeah, that's awesome. He was great. 1029 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 1: And I love people that are so exciting to like 1030 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 1: just do voice over and work and do cartoons. It's 1031 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: just so great. Where can people find you? A Julie? 1032 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 1: People can find me all over the interwebs. My my 1033 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,760 Speaker 1: handle in most places is sweet one with three ees 1034 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,920 Speaker 1: because apparently I'm the only Indian on the planet that 1035 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: doesn't win spelling bees um, which is not true. I 1036 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: actually want a bunch of spelling bees. When I was younger, 1037 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,879 Speaker 1: i won the fourth Radet spelling be because I played 1038 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 1: Dungeons and Dragons because no other fourth Rader knew how 1039 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,720 Speaker 1: to spell vengeance night, I digress. I'm a spelling rebel, 1040 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 1: so it's s W E E T A n J. 1041 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,760 Speaker 1: You can find me on Instagram, there on YouTube, there 1042 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: on Twitter there if Twitter vides UH, and then on Facebook, 1043 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm Angelie BA money. And then you can also email 1044 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 1: me at a front facing email address, which is a 1045 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,879 Speaker 1: Jelie at I am fun sized dot com. That's where 1046 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 1: I taken questions for the UH for the web series. 1047 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 1: That's where I got a lot of ideas of what 1048 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 1: to talk about for the book. So if there's ever anything, 1049 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 1: if there's that's just that's for the role to you. 1050 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 1: Send me your questions, send me your dog pictures. Please 1051 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,439 Speaker 1: send me your dog pictures. UM. And then and then 1052 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 1: just dog pictures, puppies, puppies and steppes and everything else 1053 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,400 Speaker 1: looks like keep that to yourself, fair enough, UM. And 1054 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 1: then yeah, please please please do if you get a chance, 1055 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: pick up the book, check out the web series. I'm 1056 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 1: not just saying that because it really is something that 1057 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 1: I feel strongly about, UM Sharing with the world and 1058 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 1: helping people realize that no matter what you're going through, 1059 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 1: you're not the only one. You might be the only 1060 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,359 Speaker 1: one with those plot points in your story, but you're 1061 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 1: not the only one who's felt the way that you felt. 1062 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 1: There's always someone out there, either to be helping hand, 1063 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 1: to crack a joke for you, to be a shoulder, 1064 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 1: to cry on, to cheer you on, whatever it is. 1065 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,839 Speaker 1: There's someone out there, including these two awesome people who 1066 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 1: are doing something so cool the voice over community. I 1067 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,800 Speaker 1: think it's so so fun. We love it and we 1068 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 1: were so happy that you came here. And it's again 1069 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: it's I am fun sized and so are you. Thoughts 1070 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,880 Speaker 1: from a tiny human on living a giant life. Go 1071 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,399 Speaker 1: pick that up. And again, if I have any any 1072 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 1: say about it, go pick up the copy on streamely 1073 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,320 Speaker 1: where then some of it is donated to help animals, 1074 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 1: which is awesome. Um, plus you want to have a 1075 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,839 Speaker 1: real book. And Julie, we gotta see each other soon 1076 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,239 Speaker 1: because we need another hot tub sash. We definitely need 1077 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,400 Speaker 1: another hot tub sash with or with house bouses. I mean, 1078 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 1: who knows. Um, we went there, I went there, you 1079 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 1: didn't I did it? Yeah, we got a story. We 1080 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 1: got it was a good story. And uh, and we 1081 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 1: we have all all other stuff. We have to talk 1082 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 1: about too. So I'm glad we're in each other's lives 1083 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,280 Speaker 1: and we still are. And thank you and coming and playing. 1084 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,319 Speaker 1: Thank you so legend. It's so lovely to meet you, 1085 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 1: Christie n nice to meet you too. I hope to 1086 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:11,400 Speaker 1: see you in a hot tub suit. Now. All right, 1087 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 1: love to you, take care, guys, Bye bye. She is amazing. 1088 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 1: She's nuts, isn't she. I can't do she's so thank 1089 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 1: you so much for bringing her on. Yeah, she's the best. 1090 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 1: She's got that energy. She loves everything she does. Um 1091 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,920 Speaker 1: is it just a consummate actor, That's what she does. 1092 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 1: It's like she gives, you know, I always think, but 1093 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 1: Bill Daniels told me is like an actor acts, you 1094 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 1: take every opportunity to act, and she is the epitome 1095 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 1: of that. It's unbelievable exactly. I she really did illuminate 1096 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 1: a lot of things for me and what we were 1097 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 1: talking about in our intro and and it was so strange, 1098 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,440 Speaker 1: it was almost like she had been listening to it. 1099 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,520 Speaker 1: But the concept of storytelling in all the different mediums 1100 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 1: and using your voice, which is what we originally talking about. Like, 1101 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 1: I think she's just such an icon in terms of 1102 00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 1: her approach to a healthy relation ship to your Yeah, well, 1103 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 1: I loved her analogy was one of the best analogies 1104 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 1: I've ever heard about. How she loves speaking French, she 1105 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 1: loves speaking Spanish, and they're they're too completely language, different languages, 1106 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 1: but they come from the same route. So it's uh yeah, 1107 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 1: it's a great analogy and a great way to look 1108 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 1: at it. So thank she's amazing. Thank you for joining 1109 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 1: us one, thank you all for joining us, and uh yeah, 1110 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 1: just remember we will be getting more into the I'll 1111 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 1: do it for you, Christie the super Awesome Contest to 1112 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: become the next Big Voice Actor. Super Awesome Contest to 1113 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: become the next Big Voice. Yes, uh, and I did it. 1114 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm starting. You're getting there, You're getting there, and uh 1115 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 1: it's awesome. We were gonna be We're gonna be announcing 1116 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: a lot more very soon. And what I mean very soon, 1117 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 1: I mean very soon. We've been teasing this a lot. 1118 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a ton of fun. Uh, So we 1119 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: will get there soon. Thank you all again for joining us. 1120 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 1: Thank you our guests, thank you, it's good to see 1121 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 1: you again. Christie. I love I love you too, and 1122 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 1: just remember everybody if you think you got what it 1123 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 1: takes to step up to the microphone, put your voices 1124 00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 1: where your mouth is. Thanks everybody. I Hear Voices as 1125 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 1: host by Wilfredel and Christy Carlson Romano. Executive produced by Wilfordel, 1126 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 1: Brendan Rooney, Amy Sugarman and Vicky Ernst Chang. Our executive 1127 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,800 Speaker 1: in charge of production is Danielle Romo, Our producer is 1128 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 1: Lorraine Vera Weez and our editor slash engineer is Brian Burton. 1129 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 1: And that was my announcer voice. 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