1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back to The Insider. Tom Pilisero, Ian Rappaport, Mike 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: Gara Fullo. This is our Monday podcast, condition part two 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: right here. 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: If you didn't hear part one, go listen to it. 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Now, or just listen to part two, and then part 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: one really doesn't matter. 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Different subject matter, though. 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Part two gets us completely up to the minute at 9 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: which we're of course reporting this podcast. We talked a 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: lot about the quarterback injuries around the NFL in part 11 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: one of the podcast. I will just rattle through those quickly. 12 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, we now know Dak Taylor confirmed as well 13 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: out at least three months. He's going to undergo surgery 14 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: for a very significant turftow injury. Jake Browning takes over 15 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: for Cincinnati they face the Vikings on Sunday. We also 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: anticipate in Minnesota's gonna have a backup quarterback, Jjim McCarthy 17 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: dealing with what Ian and I reported as a high 18 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: ankle spreen. He's expected to miss at least one game, 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: quite possibly more because of that injury. So Carson Wentz 20 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: versus Jake Browning in a game on Sunday. Dan Quinn 21 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: has recorded this podcast, speaking on what Ian and Mike 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: reported a short time ago is a springed knee for 23 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels, their starting quarterback, Quinn saying that Jayden is 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: truly day today. They'll continue to evaluate him through the week, 25 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: but his status end out for Sunday and a game 26 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: against the Raiders. Marcus Mariota is the backup quarterback there. 27 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: And as for Justin Fields, Aaron Glenn confirming indeed he 28 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: did suffer a concussion. He is in the protocol. That's 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: out of the team's hands. That's going to come down 30 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: to doctors' evaluations a lot of time. It'll be late 31 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: in the week before we know whether or not Justin 32 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: Fields is able to go. If he can't, then it 33 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: will be Tyrod Taylor, who finished off the game yesterday. 34 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: I believe that's everything I've been talking so long on 35 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that Ian is actually yawning. 36 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: This is a video podcast. It will also be on YouTube, 37 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: so you can see him doing the sleepot last night. 38 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: We've also got Brock Purdy. We'll talk about Mac Jones 39 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: have filled in for him and his status momentarily here. 40 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: But let's start out right now by talking about a 41 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl rematch with everything was going on yesterday. I 42 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: almost forgot this game occurred. It was the Eagles and 43 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Going back at it, Mike, it was more competitive. 44 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: It's fair to say the Super Bowl fifty nine though 45 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: that's a really really low bar here. Same result though 46 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: for a Chiefs team that still doesn't quite look like 47 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: the Chiefs of old. 48 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: What did you make of it? 49 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: No, and old takes right here, because I was talking 50 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: a lot about how this offense. 51 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 4: Was going to be a little bit of vintage Chiefs 52 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 4: and was going to open it up, and it was 53 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 4: going to take some shots. It was gonna be a 54 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 4: threat down the field. I mean, they did hit the 55 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 4: one pass to Taekwon Thornton. 56 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 5: But I then a vintage going back to last year. 57 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, No vintage as in like when they had Tyreek Hill, 58 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: which again we're talking about the possibility of Tyreek Hill 59 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: being a Chief again and the guy that we're gonna 60 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 3: be watching as we closer to the trade deadline. Who knows, 61 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 3: perhaps we'll see, but we're not seeing that at all, 62 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 3: and they're trying to make that happen. And I think 63 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: they came in with that identity and look, by the 64 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 3: time they get Xavier Worthy back, which he's got a 65 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: shot to play this week against the Giants, and they 66 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: get Rushie Rice back. After Week six, they do feel 67 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: like they're going to be able to be that offense. 68 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: But in the meantime, you've got to find other ways 69 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 3: to win. You got to be able to run the ball. 70 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: They were unable to do that. Jalen Carter, we saw 71 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 3: the difference that he made being a part of this 72 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: Eagles defense after not playing a snap in Week one 73 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 3: following the spitting incident. 74 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh. 75 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 3: You keep waiting for it to click because you've seen 76 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: it so many times, but the Chiefs before in the past, 77 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: we just have not seen it to this point. I 78 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: give the Eagles credit. I thought there were a lot 79 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: of question marks after Week one, their ability to cover, 80 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: their ability to execute the offense as called. There were 81 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: a couple of plays. There's one the DeVante Smith on 82 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: the all outplits where. 83 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 4: It was a great call at that moment. 84 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: It was a fantastic execution from the protection to DeVante 85 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: making the catch. 86 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 4: The Eagles made the plays the champions made yesterday. This 87 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 4: is another one. 88 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: Drew mccoob Drew mccuba, by the way, there's a there's 89 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: a micd up thing that I want to watch, but 90 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: we're just pop as we're in the middle of this. 91 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 3: Drew mccooba with that interception right there. He had a 92 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: a shack and a tackle for a loss too, if 93 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: I'm remembering correctly. So he's a youngster. The debos really 94 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: excited about. See there it is short. You got to 95 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: hit that one right there. It was a big one 96 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 3: right there. So we'll see still early like this Chiefs 97 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: team could still be one that's going to be one 98 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: that you got to practice and prepare for as an 99 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 3: explosive offense. But that's not going to be for at 100 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 3: least a couple more weeks. And they're going into this 101 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 3: game against it. It's like you expecting to whoop the Giants. 102 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: That might wind up being another tight game for them. 103 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 104 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 5: I didn't listen to any of that because all I'm 105 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 5: thinking about is the tush push, and of all the 106 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 5: things that came out of this game, the national outcry 107 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 5: again over the tush push is crazy to me. I mean, 108 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 5: I was getting texts from teams during the game being like, 109 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 5: how long are people going to let them fall start 110 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 5: like this? And it was all over social media, and 111 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 5: it was ready a firestorm this play. And you know, 112 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 5: I sort of think I mean, I think Kyle or 113 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 5: somebody on Good Morning Football was saying this, it's like 114 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 5: they're just going to run this play until a turn, 115 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 5: knowing it might be the last year. Like I kind 116 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 5: of think that's what it is, or just like screw, 117 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 5: We're just gonna run it every play. I really wonder 118 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 5: what this week does to the tush push. They ran 119 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 5: it so much, they ran it so well everyone thinks 120 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 5: they false start. I wonder if the league takes a 121 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 5: look at it now and starts calling it. I wonder 122 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 5: if the egos run it less. I wonder if this 123 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 5: is the last year of it, which I sort of 124 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 5: thought it was anyway, but now I really really wonder. 125 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 5: It got really interesting in tush push land. And you 126 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 5: guys know, while Mike is one of the nation's experts 127 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 5: in tush push positivity, I am not a fan. I've 128 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 5: never been a fan. I think it's ridiculous and I think, yeah, let. 129 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 4: Me take that back. 130 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: If they're all those injuries that were suffered yesterday in 131 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: one of the mostas. 132 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 4: Oh wait, nobody got hurt again? 133 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: Really, but now it's going to go from a health 134 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 3: and safety thing tom to a but it's just too 135 00:05:58,800 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 3: hard to officiate thing. 136 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: Get well, here's the officiate why. The irony of this 137 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: is the reason this play is permissible. The reason it's 138 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: in the game is because the NFL whatever that was 139 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: like thirty years ago, eliminated the rule on no pushing 140 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: or pulling. 141 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 6: Why because they said they couldn't officiate it. They couldn't 142 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 6: tell down the field. Now this plays in and you 143 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 6: can't officiate that either. It is a problem because you're 144 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 6: trying to figure it out. I mean, we listen, we 145 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 6: see false starts. The Chiefs can't really complain because you know, 146 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 6: Juwan Taylor is before every snap ever, so you. 147 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 5: Know, you actually saw a bunch of those from a 148 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 5: lot of teams. Like there was a left tackle moving 149 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 5: quick as ridiculous. 150 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: I still don't quite know what happened on the play 151 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: where the ball gets punched out before it gets snapped 152 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: and somehow still gets back to Jalen Hurts. It was 153 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: an extremely weird looking play where they're trying to swipe it. 154 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: We saw one on Thursday, didn't we at any rate. 155 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: It's just there's so much going on in the play. 156 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: Then this will be the first thing there's a teaching 157 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: tape that goes out to the officials every single game. 158 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: I would think this is gonna be really high on 159 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: the list. I don't know, Mike, you might note off 160 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: the top of your head. With the Eagles play next week, 161 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: but whoever that is, their coaches are going to be 162 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: the game, all right, the Rams. They're going to send 163 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: every single one of these plays to the league. John 164 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: McVay is going to have it on the card before 165 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: the game. I want you looking at this and we'll 166 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: see whether or not the league, you know, puts the 167 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: pressure on or whether the officials start calling it really 168 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: really tight. 169 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: I mean, that would be one way if. 170 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: You want to eliminate the displace, one way would be 171 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: make it so that you're calling false starts all the time, 172 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: and eventually it disincentivizes it because you're turning third and 173 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: one into third and six all the time. The other 174 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: point I wanted to make on this game before we 175 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: move on too, was there was a point at which 176 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: two seasons ago, in twenty twenty three, really almost the 177 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: entire regular season, where Travis Kelcey didn't look right. He 178 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: had some type of a knee injury in Week one 179 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: of that season, if you remember, it was some type 180 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: of an unusual knee injury. He came back and was 181 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: able to play, but he just didn't look like himself. 182 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, he turned it up to 183 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs. He had a hillacious game against Baltimore and 184 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: he kind of went, Okay, he's back. This Travis kelce 185 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: he saw dropped that ball at the goal line yesterday 186 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: and I know Patrick Mahomes said he threw it a 187 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: little quick, he didn't have his head around whatever. That's 188 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: a catch we've seen Travis Kelcey make his entire career. 189 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey talked in the offseason about never wanting the 190 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl to happen again, about how his energy level 191 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: wasn't where he needed to be, his level play was 192 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: not where it needed to be. 193 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: You get another crack at the same team, and that's 194 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: a huge play in this game. 195 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: That was the Chiefs last best gasp was this play 196 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: and Travis kelce off the ball go through his hands 197 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: and turns a walk in touchdown that we've seen them 198 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: hit however many times in his career into an interception 199 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: for the Eagles that more or less sealed it. I'm 200 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: not saying you know that Travis kelce is done, because 201 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: again we've seen him resurrect himself in the past, but 202 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: right now with no Rerachi Rice until week seven, without 203 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: your Travis Kelcey at the level we've seen him play 204 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: in the past. Patrick Mahomes, as great as he is, 205 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: does not have a guy that you want him throwing 206 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: the ball to. Who's your guy to have it? 207 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 4: Guy? 208 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: Maybe it's xavier're Worthy. He was supposed to be a 209 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: big part of Week one. He could be back in 210 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: week three. It's not Hollywood Brown, it's not Isaiah Pacheco 211 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: at this point, it's not any of the other receivers 212 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: they're putting out there. You're just seeing a team that 213 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: doesn't know where the ball is going to go in 214 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: the clutch. They're going to have to figure that out, 215 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: and they can't wait until week seven to get this 216 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: thing going. Mike, you were at speaking of your games 217 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: the Bills and Jets yesterday, which I understand the expectations 218 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: probably had been raised for the Jets based on how 219 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: competitively they played against the Steelers in Week one, But 220 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: the Steelers are not the Bills, and the Bills are 221 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: on a different level. I think it's fair to say 222 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: than the Jets are at this stage and the rebuild 223 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: under Aaron Klubb, Well. 224 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: I mean, coming out of Week one, you go, well, 225 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: that was a really good Steelers defense. 226 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 4: There's something off about the Steelers defense right now. 227 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: So I guess maybe you said in going into this 228 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: game the Bills and the way they dictated early they 229 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 3: were really running some some run blitzes and some things 230 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 3: that really kept Fields on his heels and in the pocket. 231 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 4: I talked to Joey Bose after the game. He said, 232 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 4: we knew we're gonna have to disrupt them. He got 233 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 4: away a couple of times, which he's going to he says, 234 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 4: But outside of. 235 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: That, I thought they did a really good job of that. 236 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, it was It was disappointing, certainly from a 237 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 3: debt's perspective. 238 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 4: And we'll see if Field is even available this week 239 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 4: because they had to. 240 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 3: I think they got back to back games in Florida, 241 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: if I'm recalling correctly, Tampa Bay in Miami. But from 242 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 3: a Bills standpoint, I was incredibly impressed because that was 243 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 3: a tough game the other night, and I spoke to 244 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 3: to Brandon Bean during the week, the general manager, and 245 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: he said, yeah, we had a walk through. 246 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 4: I think it was on Thursday. This is after Ed Oliver. 247 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: That's another reason why you're like, well, wait a minute, 248 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: this could be a letdown type spot for the Bills. 249 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: They backed it off a little bit because they said, 250 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: this is the first time Josh Allen's getting hit. 251 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 4: James Cook, good old Jimbo loved the nickname getting hit. 252 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: So it was like, even though it was early in 253 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: the season, it was sort of a late in the 254 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: season mentality of we got to give these guys a 255 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 3: little bit of a rest. 256 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 4: Uh. 257 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: And it wound up being a great call by Sean 258 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: McDermott because the Bills came ready to play, and they 259 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: came ready to play physically early on. 260 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 4: This game was never in doubt. 261 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 3: I was walking on the field before the game and 262 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: one of the photographers asked me, like. 263 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 4: What do you think today. 264 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 3: I said, because a lot of times that game at 265 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: met Life Stadium, they usually get blown out in Buffalo, 266 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: but they played them well in MetLife Stadium. Sounds like 267 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be a tight game. Guys walking 268 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 3: in the photographer room after the game, walks right by me. 269 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: He goes, you were wrong, Mike, you just kept I 270 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 3: love that. 271 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was wrong. What do you want to tell you? 272 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 4: I wrong a lot? 273 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I don't really have much to add on 274 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 5: this game. All right, Well, I got a lot of 275 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 5: things there. 276 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 4: It's one of those games. There wasn't a lot. 277 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 7: Those are really good Jets, really inconsistent at the same 278 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 7: point I made last week coming off of the Week 279 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 7: one games in that Sunday night game, and in fairness 280 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 7: to everybody else, the Bills and Ravens look like. 281 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: It's a different level of football than everybody else. Right now, 282 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: those two teams draw line. We'll see who else. 283 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 5: Raven's defense looked much better this week. 284 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they didn't face the Bills. The only team 285 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 2: that I mean is as high powered. 286 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 5: At his very also Gyro Alexander implay. 287 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: But yes, right, and that doesn't sound like either that's 288 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: an injured reserve thing. It's only he'll be back sooner 289 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: than later here, but it is a conditioning aspect. He's 290 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 1: still been trying to get back in addition to the 291 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: knee drain and all that stuff. 292 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean the explanation I was given was 293 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 5: he's just not one hundred percent yet, which means a 294 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 5: new injury didn't happen, but it means he's working his 295 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 5: way back to getting regulars. 296 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: Again in football shape. 297 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: He missed a ton of time in camp with you know, 298 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: getting the knee drained and everything else too. Mac Jones 299 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: won a game yesterday. We have not gotten say that 300 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: a whole lot over the past couple of others in 301 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: Jacksonville or New England. You know, this was a guy 302 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: who in it was no secret back when the forty 303 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: nine ers trade up to number three in the draft 304 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: several years ago that that was quite possibly going to 305 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: be their target, though ultimately they hadn't made a final decision. 306 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: They pivoted to Trey Lance mac Jones. I mean, I 307 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: don't know if this was like Pro Bowl form. They're 308 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: facing the Saints team that's got a lot of challenges, 309 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: but he played officially on a team that's got a 310 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: lot of moving parts. 311 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: They utilized Christian McCaffrey. Let's see as we roll forward. 312 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: Here, because there's no guarantee brock perties back this week, 313 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, let's see how far mac Jones can take 314 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: it and maybe do the same thing Sam Darnold other 315 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks have done when they played for Kyle Shanahan, which 316 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: is go and play yourself into a contract and an 317 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: opportunity someplace else. 318 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, Kyle Shanahan, Kevin O'Connell made a couple of quarterbacks 319 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 5: a lot of money. Obviously, Mac Jones hopes that the 320 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 5: next is him. By the way, I'll just share a 321 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 5: little bit here, and I don't think I'm really talking. 322 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 5: I just got text to Mac this week. I've known 323 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 5: him for a while. Didn't get back to me two texts. 324 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 5: Text me right after the game. Sorry, dude, I was 325 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 5: locked in. I can I can see that you are 326 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 5: apparently didn't get back to anyone all focused because he 327 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 5: knows like these are really important games, these are possibly 328 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 5: multi million dollar games. Tell you what else with Mac Jones? 329 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 5: So this year, I I came into the season thinking 330 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 5: and sort of hoping to find out two things, and 331 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 5: we found out a little bit about both. One is 332 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 5: can Mack Jones be a good functional quarterback with Kyle 333 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 5: Shanahan as his coach. I've always thought yes, and I 334 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 5: wanted to know because I kind of thought the Ford 335 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 5: Andiners were drafting him two when they traded up to three, 336 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 5: and then they went to a seriously dysfunctional Patriot situation 337 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 5: and was lost in Bolivian for a while, and then 338 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 5: now it seems to be back and we'll see. And 339 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 5: then the other on was, is Shane Stike in a 340 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 5: good head coach? I'd like to see him with a 341 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 5: good functional quarterback to find out. And look, I don't 342 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 5: know what it's gonna happen with the coach, but they're 343 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 5: two and zero. Daniel Jones says, looked great and they 344 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 5: look like a good functioning team, and I'm like, all right, 345 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 5: like this is some good information. Really on We'll see 346 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 5: where it goes. But like it's been, the first two 347 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 5: weeks have been fun but also just like really interesting. 348 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: Fun to watch the Colts with functional on time quarterback play. Obviously, 349 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: Shane Steiken fired up about it on the sideline. You 350 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: can see that now a lot of stuff had to happen. 351 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: I talked about the wacky finishes in part one of 352 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: this podcast that we saw yesterday that Colts finish. I've 353 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: never seen a team get a fifteen yard penalty on 354 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: a miss sixty yard field goal after the team plays 355 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: for the long field goal with a kicker most people 356 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: have never heard of, get a second opportunity and bang 357 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: the thing through. Meanwhile, Mike, speaking of teams trying to 358 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: be a functional quarterback play, we are still in as 359 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: Ian would say, Bolivian with the Cleveland Browns. I don't 360 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: know that this is regardless who's playing quarterback, that this 361 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: team is talented enough to compete in the AFC North 362 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: quite frankly, especially from an offensive personal perspective. But you'd 363 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: like it to look better, you'd like it to look 364 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: more functional. Kevin Stefanski says he's not considering bench and 365 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: Joe Flackham going to Dylan Gabriel, but clearly, even when 366 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: you're not playing one of the best teams in all 367 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: of football, something's got to improve here. 368 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: I sort of was hopeful that the Browns were going 369 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 3: to be better than we thought they were going to be. 370 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: I went to training camp. I'm like, they're still talent 371 00:15:59,480 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 4: on this. 372 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: Team, and we were on a group thread somebody, so 373 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: I know who was. 374 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 4: Somebody said it. 375 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: Said the grades for all the interior offensive linemen and 376 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: two of the top whatever it was. 377 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 4: We're Browns, and it's like they're good. You know they're good. 378 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 8: In spots they're Miles Garrett is still there, and it's like, 379 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 8: how is this team just not I mean, it's the 380 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 8: quarterback position. And at some point, you know, they took 381 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 8: their swing with the Sean Watson. They missed terribly. Jimmy 382 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 8: Haslam admitted that one. And they've got to figure out 383 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 8: a way out of quarterback. 384 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: And maybe it's still and Gabriel maybe who will come 385 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 3: in at some point this season playing incredibly good football 386 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 3: and will be their quarterback of the future. Don't usually 387 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: find them that late in the draft, unless you're the 388 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: Cowboys and it's Dak Prescott or whatnot. 389 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously Tom Brady as well. But we'll see. 390 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's it's just exactly what we thought 391 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: was gonna happen with the Browns so far, which is disappointing. 392 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I know those fans out there have been 393 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: through a lot and they're just feel like they're in 394 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 3: purgatory right now and have no idea when they're going to. 395 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: Get out four from the insiders. 396 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: After that, we two wraps up tonight with a doubleheader 397 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: and not that snagger doubleheader thing that the NFL figured 398 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: out doesn't work where one game starts an hour later, 399 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: and then you're watching the third quarter. 400 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 2: One in the fourth quarter, and. 401 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 5: I know, I cannot believe there is a game at 402 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 5: ten o'clock tonight. 403 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 2: It's a true back to back. 404 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: Neither can I, because I'll be on Good Morning Football 405 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: at eight am Eastern. 406 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 5: And can't watch the end of the game. 407 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: You got to do the thing. I wake up. I 408 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: will make it to the end of the game. I will. 409 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: I will try not don't leep on the couch, which 410 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: is a thing that sometimes happens to me sitting up 411 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: bucks at Texans. Let's start there in that game, Mike. 412 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: A Buccaneers team that you know, we know what they 413 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: kind of know what they are at this point every year. 414 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: They're never the flashiest team in the league, but they 415 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: find lots of games going up against the Texans team 416 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: that it just seemed bumpy last week. They've got injuries, 417 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: especially on the offensive side of the ball. They're at 418 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: home tonight. It seems like a pretty important game, especially 419 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: with you know, it's early, but teams like the Colts 420 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: playing pretty well out of the gate. 421 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Texans are in a cluster of games 422 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 3: that they have got to win. 423 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 4: The way of their schedule. 424 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 3: I remember seeing this and saying they've got to win 425 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 3: games early because it gets really tough in the Ravens 426 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 3: at Seahawks, forty nine ers at home Broncos, like they 427 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 3: got the Bills shortly after that. 428 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 4: So these are the games that Texans have to win. 429 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: And offensively, there's a lot of talk about the change 430 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 3: in offensive coordinator being a big thing for them, being 431 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 3: a big thing for CJ. 432 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 4: Strout. We did not see that. Week one. 433 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 3: You're going up against the Todd Bowles defense that does 434 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 3: a good job when it comes to making quarterbacks have 435 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 3: to believe what they see on the field. 436 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 4: This is just I don't mean to make too much. 437 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 3: This feels like a pivotal game for the Houston Texans 438 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: and for their season. It's like, if they win it, fine, 439 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 3: they're right there exactly where if they lose. 440 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 4: It, it just feels like this thing could kind of go. 441 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 3: Off the rest, especially with the Cults winning a couple 442 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 3: of games and all of a sudden being undefeated and 443 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: you know, giving you the the you better keep paced 444 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 3: with us early. So I'm I'm really fascinating this game 445 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 3: tonight between Houston and Tampa. 446 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would also say, I know that they have 447 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 5: a new offensive coordinator in Houston, and everyone was sort 448 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 5: of looking for like, all right, here's going to be 449 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 5: the big change, like Nick Keley has to my knowledge, 450 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 5: Tom never called plays right. 451 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: No, not in the NFL. 452 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 5: No, So I think he's gonna be good. He's a 453 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 5: bright young coach. He's young. It might take a minute. 454 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 5: And I think the Texans, because the schedule is in 455 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 5: their division, opens up a little bit. I think they'll 456 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 5: be okay. And I do think it might take a 457 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 5: little bit of time. That said, it's not like the 458 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 5: Bucks were hitting on all cylinders. They also have a 459 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 5: new offensive coordinator yesterday, so like, I don't know about that, 460 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 5: but I would say I am. I think I'm going 461 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 5: to be watching not just their offense, but also how 462 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 5: they pick up everything up front and have they figured 463 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 5: out the protection issues from not just last week but 464 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 5: also last year. 465 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: Buccaneer's receiver corps also not totally together. Chris Godwin, He's 466 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: back at practice, but still not quite there yet. In 467 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: terms of playing You've got Jalen McMillan, of course, who's 468 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: out until mid season, and Meccha Buca. We had as 469 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: a guest on The Insiders, by the way, a plus guy. 470 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: Just everybody said that in the pre draft process. We've 471 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: had him on a couple of times now, just unbelievably impressive. 472 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: Dude had a huge game too in Week one. Let's 473 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: see if they keep feeding him the football here in 474 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: his second time out, then the late game that Ian 475 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: is not going to watch. 476 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 2: So Michael, come to you on this. 477 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 5: I'm going to watch some of it. 478 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: Chargers had Raiders for everything I have been told again 479 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: today Brock Bauers is going to play, which messes with 480 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: what he told me postgame in Foxborough last week. He 481 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: just didn't think the knee was a big issue the game. 482 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: A couple days off from practice, sounds like he looks 483 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: like himself ready to roll and a chance, Mike to 484 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: make a statement here for a Raiders team that hasn't 485 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: had a lot of big games over the last. 486 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: Several years because of the constant upheavil. 487 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 3: I'm laughing because yesterday we did an update on Brock 488 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 3: Barrows on the NFL Game day morning, and I'm like, 489 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 3: let me dress this up a little bit like and 490 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 3: I was starting off trying to make our segment fun 491 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: and JB krits our producer literally as I walked in, 492 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 3: was like, can I do I have to pick up 493 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: Michael May or can I start Brock Powers tomorrow? 494 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 4: And I'm like, that's fun. 495 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 3: Like a sudden guess. I was like, he didn't even 496 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 3: say hello, it's the first thing out of his mouth, 497 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 3: which I think he did say hello, but I embellished. 498 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 5: People don't need to say hello every time they walk 499 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 5: into a thing, like, yeah, how happy could he be 500 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 5: to see you? 501 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 4: Like, come on, he's a nice guy. 502 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 3: He says hello, just so we finished the thing and 503 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 3: he goes, oh, man, I was like, wow. He goes, 504 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 3: I have a rule in my league that I'm not 505 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,239 Speaker 3: allowed to ask anybody from work about, uh, you know, 506 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: a strategy or whatever. 507 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 4: He goes, so I'm gonna be fine for this one. 508 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 2: Really don't get kind of. 509 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 5: Like so he's no, that's actually a really good rule. 510 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 3: I threw himself on the mercy of the court and 511 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 3: it was probably a smart decision. He let them know 512 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: about it before they saw it. And the final ruling 513 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 3: was that I didn't provide any information that wasn't already 514 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 3: available publicly. Because Pete Carroll said he expected Brock bout 515 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 3: hours to play, so they let him off the hook, 516 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: so thankfully. 517 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 4: Because I was like, what would the punishment. 518 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 3: The punishment would have been that I would have had 519 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 3: to sit bowers and go without a tight end, which 520 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: is incredible. 521 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 4: So I'm trying to have fun in trouble. 522 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 5: He should absolutely be in trouble. 523 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 4: I don't know what your question was about the game, 524 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 4: but that was much more funny I was. I had 525 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 4: to share that one. 526 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 5: My favorite thing about the Raiders in the game. I'm 527 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 5: definitely gonna watch at least the first half of what 528 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 5: times that game going to start ten o'clock, No way, 529 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 5: at least the first quarter. I loved my Pete Carroll 530 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 5: story over the weekend. I was a little nervous it 531 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 5: was going to get out, but the Pete Carroll kicking 532 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 5: through the whiteboard to pump up his team was the ultimate. 533 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 5: And Pete Carroll a question about this, Can we just 534 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 5: clarify something you said? 535 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 2: He kicked through a whiteboard. 536 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: Most whiteboards I've ever seen, like there's a they're on 537 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: wheels or whatever, but they're like three ft off the ground. 538 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 5: Kid, No, no, no, not karate kid. I was told a 539 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 5: front kick, like you know, you like kicking the door. 540 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 5: I can't move my body to like kick that high up. 541 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 5: I feel like high. He's seventy four, seventy four today. 542 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 5: I was to say, seventy four today. 543 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, like how many? 544 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 4: It sounds planned so that maybe they may have even through. 545 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably it. It's probably. 546 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 5: This isn't like it's like when the Honky talk Man 547 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 5: used to hit people with his guitar and like followed out, 548 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 5: you know you're like, all right, well, I guess the 549 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 5: bottles that. 550 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 4: They use in movies and they bang them over people's. 551 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, and they smashed and like, by the way, I 552 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 5: was also told I was because I was curious, like, hey, 553 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 5: what did Pete Carroll say in the meeting before tonight's game? 554 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 5: And I was told he didn't kick through any whiteboards, 555 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 5: but he did remind everyone that he had a fourteen 556 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 5: and four record with Seattle on Monday Night football, which 557 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 5: I thought was kind of. 558 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: Fun, pretty solidard. 559 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: Hey, listen of all the coaches like to pick, you're 560 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 3: gonna have a Pete Carront Like, just keep minding your 561 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 3: source there for the meeting Nuggets. Hey, Tom had a 562 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 3: couple of years a couple of years ago about Mike 563 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 3: McCarthy with the watermelons. 564 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 5: Uh, not even jok when I when I learned this thing, 565 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 5: my person said this is going to be like Tom 566 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 5: in the Watermelons. I said, God willing, not even kidding. 567 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 2: All Right, we gotta go. 568 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for tuning in, as you can see 569 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: right there. If you're watching us on YouTube, you can 570 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: see this show five days a week Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, 571 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: NFL Network, seven pm Eastern Time Live. 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