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Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for coming on the show. Bro.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you coming on the show. Been a big

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Speaker 2: fan of yours since Washington. That's when I really got

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Speaker 2: up on you. My homeboy put me up on. I'm

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Speaker 2: in my scene you at the game, and I was

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Speaker 2: telling you I was a big fan of your game.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you got it all the way together. Man,

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you rapping it up. So man, appreciate you

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Speaker 2: coming on.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you all having me for real when you.

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Speaker 2: First got to the league. Who was the first person

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Speaker 2: to bust your probably John wall John wall was Washington Wizards,

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Speaker 2: and that was my first movie, my first game at

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Speaker 2: home too.

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Speaker 3: It was in DC. About to say that's back of

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Speaker 3: the crib.

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Speaker 4: That was probably first time, like just realizing the speed

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Speaker 4: was different than handle everything. But it was fun though

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Speaker 4: it still was, you know, competitor. But he was probably

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Speaker 4: the first one that he shook me a few times.

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Speaker 4: I was like, all right, I just realized I hands

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Speaker 4: up for real, here a big guard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It was perfect me, but that was probably first game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah John Waller at the crib. Oh, I know that

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Speaker 1: whole family, y'all.

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Speaker 5: You're going crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yo, yo yo.

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Speaker 5: We live on location City Beautiful is the location.

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Speaker 3: Me and the blackest One.

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Speaker 5: We got a very special guest, Upper Marlboro, Maryland's own.

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Speaker 5: We got the d m V in the building, y'all

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Speaker 5: at the number one pick. He took it all the

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Speaker 5: way from the East coast to the West coast to

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Speaker 5: Washington University. We got young markll folks in the building.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen. We appreciate your mind. Orlando Magic's own

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Speaker 3: big guard.

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Speaker 2: Upper Marlboro, Maryland. You went to Damatha High School. The

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Speaker 2: math After is one of the legendary high schools in

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Speaker 2: the land in the United States.

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Speaker 1: Boy Keith Bowl, Well my year.

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Speaker 2: I remember my first time I seen the math to

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Speaker 2: Keith Bogue and Joe Forte.

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Speaker 1: Like when them boys came out, it was like their.

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Speaker 2: Jerseys was so perfect, like everything they did was perky,

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Speaker 2: and you can just feel the history from the coach

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Speaker 2: like just own them. They played the right way, played different.

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Speaker 2: How was it what made you choose the MATHA out

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Speaker 2: of all the schools in DC? What made you choose

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Speaker 2: the MATHA to go to and you know continue their legacy.

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Speaker 4: I actually got I didn't even get recruited there. I

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Speaker 4: used to go to camp there a lot, and I

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Speaker 4: went to a lot of camps in the area, but

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Speaker 4: that was a private school. I was in public school

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Speaker 4: pretty much, elementary and middle school. My mom wanted me

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Speaker 4: me just lock in really, and I applied for a

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Speaker 4: whole bunch of different, you know, private schools all around

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Speaker 4: the area, and the Matha was actually one of the

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Speaker 4: ones that accepted me. So it was kind of like

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Speaker 4: I wanted to go there because of course, you know

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Speaker 4: about the legacy there and I knew that, you know,

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Speaker 4: I got accepted, pretty much was almost done. Then I

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Speaker 4: ended up going there. It wasn't close to my house either.

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Speaker 4: It was probably like an almost like an hour commute.

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Speaker 1: Like damn, yeah, you went to you went there three years, four.

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Speaker 3: Years, four years, and I didn't. I didn't get recruited.

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Speaker 4: I played freshman, I played JVAH and so, like I

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Speaker 4: went through the whole process.

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Speaker 3: It's like a ground.

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Speaker 4: I almost wanted to leave my sophomore year when I

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Speaker 4: got cut, but you know, my mom made me stick

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Speaker 4: it through. You know, she made me see the bigger

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Speaker 4: picture as far as like starting something and not giving up.

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Speaker 4: So I ended up working all all the way out.

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Speaker 4: I ended up you know, killing my junior year and did.

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Speaker 3: You get cut sophomore year from varsity.

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Speaker 4: Varsity and Z I ended up getting moved up at

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Speaker 4: the end of the year because I was just dominating JV.

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Speaker 3: But you know, the math is a big powerhouse.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of a lot of guys there, and

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Speaker 4: I really wasn't like recruited, so like, I mean, I

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Speaker 4: But you know, they had guys there that you know,

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Speaker 4: they already had.

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Speaker 1: It's a prono.

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Speaker 4: Roster, you know. So I went through the process, but

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Speaker 4: it all made it worth it. It showed me just

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I ended up killing my junior year and when they

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Speaker 4: played the conference in that conference, and then my senior

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Speaker 2: So tell us about some of the history you remember

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Speaker 2: history of ball, you know, So tell us some like

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Speaker 2: you know the ones that came before you.

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Speaker 4: A lot man just even through my high school, you know,

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Speaker 4: like you said, Keith Bogan's, you know, Adrian Danley, a

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Speaker 4: still did, you know, a lot of good things. You know,

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Speaker 4: Josh Selby killed car. You know, it was like so

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Speaker 4: it was kind of dope just to see that. And

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Speaker 4: it was like also being in D and V. You

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Speaker 4: it was kind of everybody had their different kind of style,

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Speaker 4: but like still kind of supported each other in a way.

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Speaker 4: But it was just dope to have to prove yourself

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Speaker 4: wherever you went. It was like they didn't care who

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Speaker 4: So it was like you kind of had to earn

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Speaker 4: it made you like have to earn it, you know,

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Speaker 4: and it just gave you a different perspective of like

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Speaker 2: For it to be Maryland, d C and Baltimore, Like

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Speaker 2: how you know because folks rep they So how is

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Speaker 2: that to be all in one? Because I know when

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Speaker 2: y'all when you when you travel, when we've seen d

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Speaker 2: C assault, it was like all of them together. But

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Speaker 2: how is it in the city where you rep in

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Speaker 4: You know, there's some people don't like it that like

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Speaker 4: kind of like that, like you understand when you're at home,

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Speaker 4: you gotta wrap where you're at and then like when

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Speaker 5: At the creative it's like we all got when we

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Speaker 5: in Chicago on the south side, you west side, you this,

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Speaker 5: but when we go somewhere else, it's shot town is

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Speaker 5: talking about and we will literally all move even if

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Speaker 5: we ain't rock backs, all move Like what's that?

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Speaker 3: Indeed?

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Speaker 5: ABC, like you count over here, what's okay?

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Speaker 2: How was it for you to just bust through it

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Speaker 2: like like you don't play your freshman year, most of

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Speaker 2: the guys get discouraged if they're not already the man

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So you don't play your freshman year,

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Speaker 2: you don't play your sophomore year and on the varsity

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Speaker 2: level because no, JV don't.

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Speaker 1: Count to us, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Them numbers that you put up, they don't really go

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Speaker 2: towards your varsity type numbers if you don't play off

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Speaker 2: for you to bust through the scene and you were

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Speaker 2: seeing what's ahead of you, like you're seeing the good

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Speaker 2: of the better team. I know you was going to

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Speaker 2: that level, Like, how was that to transition to that?

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Speaker 3: It was dope. It happened really fast.

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Speaker 4: But it was also dope because you know, the work

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Speaker 4: it made me even more hungrier to keep working because

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Speaker 4: I was seeing results, you know, quickly, So I understood

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Speaker 4: like while I'm working on something and if I'm being

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Speaker 4: coachable and somebody tells me to work on something and

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Speaker 4: I do it, and then I see the results right away.

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Speaker 4: It's almost like why would I stop? So I kept

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Speaker 4: the best players in the country, and I kept proving

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Speaker 4: So like it was almost like it was a type

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Speaker 3: And I just kept doing that. So like that whole

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Speaker 4: I got opportunity after opportunity to play against you know,

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Speaker 4: the best player I played against, Jason Tatuam, I played.

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Speaker 1: Against you I know, the matha player.

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Speaker 4: Every It's also like just a showcation of me, you know, everywhere,

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Speaker 4: and everybody's like, where did he come from? You know,

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Speaker 4: this guy came from nowhere, and it just kept going.

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Speaker 5: I just want to say something for all the young people,

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Speaker 5: young players, anybody that just out there is going to

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Speaker 5: be watching this, please pay attention to the context clue

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Speaker 5: that man said he was extremely coachable.

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Speaker 3: And he worked his ass off, extremely coachable and worked

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, I just want to point that out because

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you, like, that's almost everything in the nuts.

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Speaker 5: If you got that, you didn't beat half of everything else.

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Speaker 1: What's the plus?

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Speaker 2: Like, because the MATHA is a real program, Like we

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Speaker 2: got drafted in two thousands. The math been a program

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Speaker 2: since early nineties, like a real program, and you go

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Speaker 2: through a process and it's bigger than one player. You

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, over the years, over the eras,

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Speaker 2: how did that help you out too? To being a

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Speaker 2: real program Because a lot of guys don't come up

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Speaker 2: in programs. They play with guys and it just be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: we got a good team this year or this decade.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: It was big.

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Speaker 4: It taught me how to play basketball the right way.

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Speaker 4: But also I think that's just the DMV error. It's

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Speaker 4: just kind of like that, like the way they play

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Speaker 4: basketball is kind of just the right way. It's not

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Speaker 4: like a guy go get chords. It's about you know,

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Speaker 4: team basketball and understanding defense and how to run an offense.

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Speaker 4: But like you said, like they've been competing for a

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Speaker 4: long time, so like you also understand how to put

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Speaker 4: yourself aside for a bigger picture, because it's not saying

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Speaker 4: that necessarily like you're not talented enough to be able

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Speaker 4: to do these things, but understanding that everybody has a

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Speaker 4: and I had teammates on my team. We had a

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Speaker 5: At the end of YO senior year, right you you

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Speaker 4: I think that probably when they started considering me number

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Speaker 4: And I do think that was the biggest, probably the

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Speaker 5: Tell me that I did the same thing. I went

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Speaker 5: That how did that feel for you to win that

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Speaker 5: I still got that gold medal, and like that's like

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Speaker 4: Nah, I look at it now as it's a way

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Speaker 4: definitely appreciate it way more and I'm very thankful for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, could have been anybody else but Washington, Like, could

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Speaker 2: anybody else?

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Speaker 1: Was it anybody else that almost got you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It was a few. It was a few in the country.

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Speaker 2: It was a few you chose to go for one end.

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Speaker 2: There was a lot of reasons for that, man. I

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Speaker 2: like they had the john S, Murray, Marquise, Christis Stile who.

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Speaker 4: Did have Don Green, David but but they had all them.

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Speaker 4: I just again I stuck it out. They didn't know

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Speaker 3: Crazy. So but it did end up working out.

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Speaker 4: But I was considering Arizona, Louisville, Kentucky, those teams. But

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Speaker 4: as far as Romar, he wanted me to be a

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this story about coach Romar, Uh, It's funny.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm six nine, and I'm like, man, I sending

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Speaker 1: The gold boy.

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Speaker 2: He came in and as soon as he got closer

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Speaker 3: It came.

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Speaker 1: I said, yes, Lord, how the fuck I'm gonna let

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, surprised.

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Speaker 2: I got so many players and I dunked on so

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Speaker 1: That's so fun of using that. But I know he

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Speaker 5: He used to do.

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Speaker 4: He used to do shooting stuff like crazy trick shots. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Man, I was I'm so happy that he didn't shout

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Speaker 2: Goodstead of the like, yeah, you think pick this lay up,

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Speaker 3: I dunk that thing.

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Speaker 1: But when you got to Washington, you know, you leave

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Speaker 2: D C, come all across the country, going cross country

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Speaker 3: I used to rain because in DC we get a

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Speaker 1: You get all the well.

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Speaker 3: To me, actually, it was kind of good for me

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Speaker 4: You know, if I was home, too many people be

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Speaker 4: I had Jamal Crawford showing Mad Love, t Spencer, all

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Speaker 4: Romar made it feel like I feel like home. But

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Speaker 4: it definitely was a different experience. But I was loving it,

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Speaker 4: So it was almost like that first time being on

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Speaker 1: Going from Maryland to Seattle.

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Speaker 2: But the basketball culture out there, yeah, like like how

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Speaker 2: and all around that you cross over that you wouldn't

441
00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,040
Speaker 2: know that was out there before you got out there.

442
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 2: So how was that You get out there and you

443
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,640
Speaker 2: just see a whole nother world and you see ballers

444
00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:18,040
Speaker 2: out there.

445
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,760
Speaker 4: And I think that was another reason I went to

446
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,560
Speaker 4: you you know, they used to send mail and like

447
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,000
Speaker 4: they used to send all the pros a head and

448
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 4: I'm just looking like, damn, I ain't even know Nate Rode, Yeah,

449
00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,920
Speaker 4: t Rowton t Ross. It was just like damn, Like

450
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,240
Speaker 4: I didn't even know that him had that many hoopers

451
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,040
Speaker 4: And then just going out there and seeing how many

452
00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 4: of them come back, and like you said, they got

453
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,840
Speaker 4: all their crossover leaves they got, you know, they just

454
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,200
Speaker 4: come play pick up. Like on my visit, I was

455
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,600
Speaker 4: up there just wanted the hoop and Jamal pulled up.

456
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:43,879
Speaker 4: It was a whole bunch of guys that, like I

457
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,879
Speaker 4: did not expect to like just come and just be

458
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,520
Speaker 4: cool and just play pick up.

459
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 3: So it was like the culture there is real dope.

460
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,760
Speaker 4: And again I got a chance to I'm with Paula

461
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,440
Speaker 4: right now, but I already know kind of how like

462
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,200
Speaker 4: the Seattle like they just got hoopers.

463
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,280
Speaker 3: Man, the way they hoopers.

464
00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 4: It was kind of dope coming from the DNV because

465
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,240
Speaker 4: it's like almost kind of the same thing. You just

466
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,879
Speaker 4: got guys that just want to go play pick up,

467
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,159
Speaker 4: want to go hoop. So like it was just all

468
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 4: love out there, and I really appreciate Seattle and I

469
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,880
Speaker 4: look forward to, you know, making it back out there.

470
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 2: So in Washington, you was swerving out there like that's

471
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 2: when I that's my boy. Then put me up on

472
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,120
Speaker 2: you and I'm like, you get buckets out there, boy,

473
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 2: You going to work when you got out there and

474
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 2: playing in the plac twelve and and doing your thing

475
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 2: with the competition of UCLA and all them, Like how

476
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 2: did you feel yourself when you you really got there?

477
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,159
Speaker 1: It kind of got your feet on the ground and.

478
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 4: Swerve crazy like That's probably the when I was like

479
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 4: riding the high. That probably the best off because it

480
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 4: was like almost like I remember my first game. I

481
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 4: think I had thirty and it was like I felt

482
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 4: like I didn't even have a good game. Like it

483
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 4: was just like I look at the end the game,

484
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,119
Speaker 4: I look up and I'm like, damn, I had thirty

485
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 4: and it's like, hmm, I didn't really think.

486
00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, that was kind of easy.

487
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 4: Like the next game thirty five, I'm like, all right,

488
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 4: like this I might really be doing something like just

489
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 4: keep doing I'm doing yeah, man, I'm talking my trash

490
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 4: and practice, you know, but I'm still putting the work in.

491
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 4: Like don't get me wrong, I'm working my ass off,

492
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 4: but I feel like it was still opportunities where I

493
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 4: could have, you know, scored more and did other things.

494
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 4: But me being who I am, you know, still trying

495
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 4: to get my teammates involved and stuff like that. But

496
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 4: it was like I was just having fun and dominating

497
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 4: the game of basketball, and it was like the only

498
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 4: thing that sucked was the wins. You know, I didn't

499
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 4: get that many wins, so like that was kind of

500
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 4: a thing that I didn't like here because it almost

501
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 4: made it seem like I wasn't you know, you know,

502
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 4: and that's all I care about, is, well.

503
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 5: How did coach Rogman help you deal with that? Because

504
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 5: I know he was a great like mentor type dude,

505
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 5: and I know he helped you deal with that. I mean, shoot,

506
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 5: he just kicked our ass in practice.

507
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 4: We used to be running so much, you like, he

508
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 4: ain't gonna do the one thing, youna, you're gonna be running,

509
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 4: but he just stayed on. I mean, he knew I

510
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 4: was a guy that that was doing whatever I could

511
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 4: to win, and he tried to put us in the

512
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 4: best position, you know. But again, if I could go back,

513
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 4: it probably times that I could have been more aggressive

514
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 4: to help our team winning things like that, but I don't.

515
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 3: I wouldn't change anything about college. You know.

516
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed it, and I think I enjoyed, you know,

517
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 4: the chemistry I had with my teammates. I think they

518
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 4: will say, like I was probably one of the dopest dudes.

519
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 4: You know, I wasn't a typical probably guy that's probably

520
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 4: gonna be a high pick that walked around like.

521
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 3: He was all that.

522
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 4: You know, I'm normal guy, kicked it with everybody, chill

523
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 4: with everybody, and everybody seem special.

524
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 5: When you when you came in after everything that you

525
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 5: you know, achieved as a senior, did you expect to

526
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 5: be that successful and to have a chance to be like,

527
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 5: you know, a top five, top ten pick or anything like.

528
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 5: I know, you know a lot of us some of

529
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 5: us come in thinking like hey about to kick everybody.

530
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 5: Ask nobody to go like did you walk in like

531
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 5: this or did you come in kind of like all right,

532
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 5: I gotta see what is what it's like, I gotta

533
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 5: feel my way through.

534
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 3: Or how did you come in?

535
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 4: I came in still with the same agenda my girls

536
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 4: to be number one pick, okay, And I've been saying

537
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 4: that since I got like Larry my boys in high school.

538
00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 4: I used to tell them, yo, I'm gonna be the

539
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 4: numb one pick, Like I'm gonna work my butt off

540
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 4: to beat the one pick because I always felt like,

541
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 4: you know, I was the best player in my class

542
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 4: and like That's just how I always felt and how

543
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 4: it worked out, you know, even if I wasn't there

544
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 4: at that moment, like, that's my goal and that's where

545
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 4: I want to be. So coming in I definitely, you know,

546
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 4: I had thoughts of like how hard is it going

547
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 4: to be like house classes and stuff, How am I

548
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 4: going to house practice this, that and the third. But

549
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: it was always the goal like when I leave, I

550
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 4: wouldn't be known as the best player, you know, to

551
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 4: come out of here and the best player on the floor.

552
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 4: So that was my mindset every day and and as

553
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 4: I continue to go through the season, I felt, you know,

554
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 4: the accolades coming in, the work that was putting, it showing,

555
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 4: and it just kept going from there.

556
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: What made you decide to leave? Yeah, they fired coach Romar.

557
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 4: We had we had mighty because I didn't want We

558
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 4: actually had a number one recruiting class coming in next year.

559
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 3: We had like Michael Porter got a whole bunch of guys.

560
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 3: But so is that why Porter went through?

561
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: Uh?

562
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's really slip.

563
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 4: So like I mean, at the same time, I still

564
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,239
Speaker 4: had a goal of leaving, but my mindset, like they

565
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 4: had me projecting.

566
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 3: Number when I was like im number one in this class.

567
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 4: I'm thinking like USA as well, the class under me

568
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 4: is coming the next why I wouldn't I be able

569
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 4: to be number one? But also I prayed about it

570
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 4: and something told me to do and I'm glad I

571
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 4: did because I ended up getting hurt the next year,

572
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 4: so you know, everything happens for a reason. But I

573
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 4: definitely was thinking about coming back just because I didn't

574
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 4: like winning nine. I won nine games in college like that,

575
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 4: Like people be talking about March. I didn't get to

576
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 4: play in March madness. I didn't get to play in

577
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 4: my PAC twelve tournament. You know, I was hurt at

578
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 4: the end of the year. People thought I was sitting

579
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 4: out because of you know, yeah, but nah, I was

580
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 4: just covering up my knee so I can get right.

581
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 4: But you know that that was probably I was thinking

582
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 4: about coming back, especially because I didn't want to leave Romo.

583
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 4: But they fired them and after that, I was like,

584
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 4: there's no way I'm out here now.

585
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 2: You hear you decided to go to the draft. You

586
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: projected to be number one, something that you dreamed of.

587
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 2: All of us want to be the number one pick.

588
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: You know, it's only one every year, Like tell us

589
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 2: about just the process of you hearing that and and

590
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 2: kind of is kind of feeding your ego, like, man,

591
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 2: I can be the number one pick and.

592
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 1: This is the reality now.

593
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 3: It was surreal, you know, just seeing my drafts of

594
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 3: it and just their process.

595
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 4: I didn't really like look at it too much, but

596
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 4: I definitely had people on my camping people around me

597
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 4: that always talked about it. But just going through the

598
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 4: whole process, just like the workouts and just you know,

599
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 4: the meetings and everything, it was just like very exciting,

600
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 4: just one, because I'm gonna get drafted, whether I go

601
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 4: one or not, so like I'm just super excited for that.

602
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 3: But like the nerves are just hearing.

603
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 4: That you're gonna go number one and the stories of

604
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 4: like how they switched their picks and you never know

605
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 4: until it goes, so like I'm just like just waiting

606
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 4: to hear it.

607
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: You know.

608
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 4: If I hear it, you know, I'm super excited. But

609
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 4: just like one, I'm just blessed to be here and

610
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 4: blessed to get drafted. Coming from nothing and being able

611
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 4: to change my family life forever was dope. But once

612
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 4: I heard it, it was like I ain't hear nothing else.

613
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 4: It was just unreal.

614
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 2: Tell us your experience in the draft. You know, you're

615
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 2: getting an opportunity to shake you know, the commissioners hand

616
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 2: and your family still right, no, no, no, damn.

617
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: Doing this thing.

618
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: Just get an opportunity for your mom and your family

619
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 2: to get that whole experience.

620
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 3: So how was the experience for you?

621
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: And just tell us the process of you know, choosing

622
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: your suit.

623
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what she was going, Well, my ankles out, Nah,

624
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 3: I had my ankles out. My suit was dope. My soup.

625
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 4: I got a little custom suit like purple like it

626
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 4: was great with like stripes and stuff. But in the

627
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 4: inside I had a whole bunch of pictures and stuff

628
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 4: like my family. But I think what I did unique

629
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 4: was I was trying to figure I'm big on the shoes,

630
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 4: like I didn't want to do nothing normal. I actually

631
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 4: had my shoes made out of real basketball, but they

632
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 4: were they were pretty dope.

633
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 3: It was it was dope.

634
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 4: I gotta see if I got a picture. But I

635
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 4: had my shoes made out of basketball, which was dope,

636
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 4: and I gotta checked that.

637
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: I don't remember.

638
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 4: They was gray and I had a the orange basketball shoes.

639
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 4: They looked like some loafers like some Uh it was

640
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 4: nice though you've.

641
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 3: Worked the purple for Washington, Yeah, Like it was great.

642
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 5: It was basically mostly gray, but it had like figure

643
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 5: out what's going on at University of Washington.

644
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 3: They got like they get real love and like guys

645
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 3: go there and like like I didn't even go there.

646
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 4: He wove purple suits because his mom and his dad,

647
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 4: and it's a dope experience. I feel like it's just

648
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 4: a common because they don't really have no basketball team

649
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 4: there no more so like the love you get there

650
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: is like they love you like for real. Like it's

651
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 4: like I don't know, it's just like and they kind

652
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 4: of like play.

653
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 5: Like Spence Halls. They like everybody's like revered there and

654
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 5: like always.

655
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 4: Like it's not like it's a dope experience like that

656
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 4: out there doing when the weather nights, it's like it's nice,

657
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 4: it's nice to be out there. But the whole draft

658
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 4: experience was dope. It was different because I didn't think

659
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 4: it was gonna be as long as it was. You know,

660
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 4: watching the draft again, that's something I learned. Like watching it,

661
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 4: you just see walking across.

662
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: So it took a long time.

663
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: Man, That's what I thought.

664
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: I thought, being that I'm gonna be able to get

665
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 4: up out of there, I'm being able to go PARTYI bro,

666
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 4: I was still doing media. You know, it was second round.

667
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 4: It was still media. I had to tell them, like, yo,

668
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 4: I'm trying to go see my family.

669
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: I would say. It wasn't. I can't even say it

670
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 3: was like that fun because it was long. But like

671
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 3: now it's way more media just from the like.

672
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: I was almost done then they picked you yeah, back

673
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: because he had to take the pictures with me.

674
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 5: But like even with that, we weren't there for the

675
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 5: second round, and I was eighteen. I was there the

676
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 5: second round, was gone the first pick, and he's still

677
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 5: there in the second round, and we was through probably

678
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 5: if not before early into the second round.

679
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: We was up out of it.

680
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 4: Y'all lead the next day as well, yeah, next morning,

681
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 4: the next day, so it was already like.

682
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 5: So I Junk was in, but see y'all lucky, y'all

683
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 5: was in New Yak City. I Junk was in, sorry,

684
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 5: but look.

685
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: He did what he could. He had a party at

686
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: Prince Club, right, We went to Prince Club that night.

687
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 5: But it was Minneapolis, it wasn't New York cities, like

688
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 5: everybody you six years morning, we've.

689
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: Done we all knowing did come.

690
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 5: New York Cities. We know what would have been a

691
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 5: time and wasn't. I mean it was still a time.

692
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 5: We had a time, don't had the time? And then

693
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 5: we flew the next morning.

694
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: I know you. You flew the Philly We took sprinter.

695
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 3: It was like, oh, that's right, that's right.

696
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 6: You drove us Philly Like no, no, no, we went

697
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 6: to private jed act private. That was our first first

698
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 6: time on a private jet. Why was using phone and

699
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 6: had no damn bity call. I had a goddamn.

700
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 3: God, damn it didn't work Hello Hello, couldn't tell us nothing.

701
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you have a problem, because, like, when I

702
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: really started paying attention in watching your game, always liked

703
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: how you play, your style of play, but some coaches

704
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: it takes them a minute to catch on.

705
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: Did you have a problem with that?

706
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: With like coming through coaches seeing you off the rib

707
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: and be like, I don't know, and then when you

708
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: actually play and do your thing, be like, oh nah,

709
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: that's one of my favorite players.

710
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 4: I think that a lot of people because of the Internet,

711
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 4: they you just hear stuff off and everybody believes what

712
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 4: they see on the internet. It's like it's almost like

713
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 4: it's crazy, cause it's like I even have some of

714
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 4: my own home even when the incident was going on

715
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 4: in Philly, just asking like Yo, you got a motorcycle accident.

716
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, you ain't never seen me driving no motorcycle.

717
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 4: I'll be in the gym chill like so it's just

718
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 4: like it's kind of crazy, but like, yeah, that's what happens,

719
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 4: and that's why I'm a further believer. Like I don't

720
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 4: really care what people say until I meet somebody and

721
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 4: I get to see for myself and get my own observation.

722
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 4: But also like on the court, like you can say

723
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 4: whatever you want, but I know what I can do,

724
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 4: and I know like when I go out there, I'm

725
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 4: going to kill. I can hoop, so I'm always gonna

726
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 4: prove myself and I believe in the work that I

727
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: put out, and like that's why I feel like all

728
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 4: real hoopers and all people that really know basketball understand

729
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 4: and respect me, and that's all I can ask for.

730
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 4: I'm not really worried about the people that making bats

731
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 4: and all that type of stuff or believe stuff because

732
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 4: I know that like people that know Hoop knows I'm

733
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 4: valuable and know what I can do.

734
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

735
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: So it gets like that with coaches, Like you see

736
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: some players and a coach to sit here and if

737
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: I have you out there doing drills and shit, you

738
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: might look like shit. Yeah, but when I put you

739
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: on the court with five people, it's running up and down.

740
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: That's what it is.

741
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: That's one thing like LaMelo Ball was one of them

742
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: to me, you know what I'm saying. He's one of

743
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: them people that like, yeah, y'all, you can't put him.

744
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: You gotta kind of let him go. And that's how

745
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: I felt with you too. I feel like they got

746
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: to let you go and just kind of damn there,

747
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: be free to just do you and you'll work it out.

748
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: Tell me this for you for a person, you know,

749
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: that's like you that to yourself.

750
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 5: But you know what you know, and you feel how

751
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 5: you feel coming into that scenario in Philly where you

752
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 5: got a city and a fan base is.

753
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: Outspoken, so to speak, you know what I'm saying.

754
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 5: So like the way they were, how was it for

755
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 5: you to deal with all of this misinformation going around

756
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 5: or going around and not really knowing.

757
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: The accuracy of what you got going on?

758
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 5: How frustrating can that be when you dealing and you

759
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 5: trying to like, you know, we hoop it first and foremost,

760
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 5: we know our body and we want to get ourselves

761
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 5: healthy and get ourselves back to what.

762
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 3: We could do, what we know we can do.

763
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 5: And until we could do that, it ain't nothing to

764
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 5: say because it's lip service because we.

765
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: Just want to get healthy.

766
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 5: So you listening to all of this bs going around

767
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 5: and all of these whatever, everybody got thoughts in the pins,

768
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 5: But like, how is it for you to sit there,

769
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 5: Like you say, you believe in the work, you're doing

770
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 5: the work, how is it for you to have to

771
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 5: sit there and listen to that outside no it whether

772
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 5: you want to or not, Like you say, your home

773
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 5: boys come to you like this is like it's something

774
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 5: out like with some of it like really like straight

775
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 5: up laughable or comical, and some of it was it frustrating?

776
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 3: How was it for you?

777
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 4: A lot of it was laughable because it was like

778
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 4: if it was true, it offended me, but it ain't true,

779
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 4: so it's like, damn, like this is crazy. Like it

780
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 4: gave me a different perspective of like seeing stuff on

781
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 4: the internet, like damn, you cannot.

782
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: Believe everything you see, like I really know.

783
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 4: So like part of it was like funny, you know,

784
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 4: part of it was frustrating, but like it was just

785
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 4: crazy because people was talking about like mental issues, this,

786
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 4: that and the other. And I'm like, if y'all, like,

787
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 4: if y'all know what I'm going through, I'm still out

788
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 4: here hooping.

789
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: Like I don't even care. I'm still out here hooping.

790
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 4: I'm doing whatever I gotta do to make a free

791
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 4: throw like around like a whole bunch of people, Like

792
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 4: I don't know how many people can do that, you know.

793
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 4: So but like at the same time, I also realized,

794
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 4: like dude, like I got to take care of my

795
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 4: body because like, at the end of the day, the

796
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 4: only person is gonna take care of me is me.

797
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 4: So like I learned a lot of stuff through that process.

798
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 4: But at the same time, like I didn't want to

799
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 4: say anything because like why would I entertain something that

800
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 4: isn't true, because then that would make it seem like

801
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 4: it's life, you feel me, So it was like my

802
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 4: main focus is getting healthy, so I do what I

803
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 4: love and let's played basketball. So that's all I was

804
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 4: worried about. I didn't really care about what people were saying.

805
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 4: I didn't entertain what people saying. No, And it was

806
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 4: hard at times because it was like I want to

807
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 4: tell people, you know, you know, really what's going on,

808
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: you know, But it's like at the same time, it

809
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 4: don't matter to me because I know what's going on,

810
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 4: and that's all that matters, because I just want to hoop.

811
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: Did you feel the organization was being supportive but you

812
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 2: feel they fed into it when everybody say a little bit.

813
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 3: It could have been better? It was.

814
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 4: It was you know, I had my supports and stuff

815
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 4: like that, you know, and I'm thankful for the SEXUS

816
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 4: organization and everything they did for me, But I.

817
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: Don't know, it was it was a weird situation, you know.

818
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 4: And like again, I understand that it's a business, and

819
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 4: and again I understood I understand now like the business

820
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 4: and in and outs of everything.

821
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: So like again, I was just worried about.

822
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 4: I was thankful to be able to be moved to

823
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 4: somewhere where I had a second chance and the opportunity

824
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 4: to grow.

825
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 3: And you know, they wanted to win.

826
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 4: I wish I had a chance to help them because

827
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 4: I really feel like I could have helped them, you know,

828
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 4: win if they were patient and you know, let me

829
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 4: get healthy. But at the same time, I'm thankful for

830
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 4: everything that they did for me, and everything worked out good.

831
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 2: Watching you in college, like you was a bucket like so,

832
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 2: I couldn't understand why they were trying to change anything

833
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: about your game.

834
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 3: I really think I'm like man all Man.

835
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

836
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 4: And the thing is, I feel like I could have

837
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 4: helped been a lot because like I can create for

838
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 4: him where he can just come downhill. He don't got

839
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 4: a dribble, He's coming off you know, easy buckets. You know,

840
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 4: I'm getting Joel easy buckets, even with them going under,

841
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 4: I'm getting Joel the easiest points. He probably getting easy

842
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 4: dump off stuff like that. So, like I realized it's

843
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 4: about situation as well. You know, you have, like you said,

844
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: you have some coaches that put guys in a certain

845
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 4: box and you know they can do way more.

846
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: So it just didn't work out. It wasn't you know,

847
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 3: what they had playing and it was cool.

848
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 2: In my career, I had injuries and I played ten

849
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: years and probably seven of them I was you know

850
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, But we don't talk about the injuries,

851
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: because we don't make excuses, you know, as NBA players,

852
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: So that's clear. Tell us about the perseverance, you know

853
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, How you want to get out there

854
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: so bad and you want to give you all so

855
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 2: bad for a team, but you have to be patient

856
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: with yourself and make sure that you're you're healing yourself

857
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: the right way and you strengthen yourself the right way.

858
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 2: Those the perseverance of injuries that you got to keep

859
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: your mind strong, keep your mind stronger, Like, yeah, when

860
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: I come back, I'm gonna be able to still do

861
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: the things that I used to do.

862
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 5: And for them, it's a little bit tougher than it

863
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 5: was because we didn't grow up in that social media

864
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 5: era where everybody got a goddamn voice to say something

865
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 5: about something they have absolutely no clue about it. Our

866
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 5: shit was in the newspaper. They had to read the news.

867
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 5: But like now, whatever happens, somebody could say it the

868
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 5: next second. As soon as you fall on the court,

869
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 5: somebody is tweeting and can say something, you know what

870
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 5: I'm saying, So like from his standpoint, it's a little

871
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 5: bit different than what we went through.

872
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 4: Again, another blessing I had being able to go through

873
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 4: I went through my first year with my shoulder. I

874
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 4: think that was probably my toughest injury because I didn't

875
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 4: know what it was. And again, you hear all this

876
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 4: stuff about, you know, the media, he changed his shy,

877
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 4: he's doing this, he did, and like not knowing that's true,

878
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 4: but also like trying to figure out what's going on.

879
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: I think that was the toughest part because, you know,

880
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 4: once I figure out what I got, I know, like,

881
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 4: all right, for instance, my aco, I knew I got

882
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 4: this long to recover. I gotta do this, that and

883
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 4: the third, and then I should be good by this.

884
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 4: With my shoulder, I didn't know what it was, so

885
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 4: I couldn't just start working out, you know, I was

886
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 4: in the gym continue to work out, which was actually

887
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 4: making it worse. And so when I found out, you

888
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 4: know what it was tos with the nerve damage and

889
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 4: like understanding I could do rehab, that was my next focus,

890
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 4: you know, And I had to understand to take it

891
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 4: day by day and not look at the big picture

892
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 4: because doing that, you know, you can have you know

893
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 4: those days where you're like, all right, I don't want

894
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 4: to do it no more, it's too far away. But

895
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 4: I just really learned how to focus in on the

896
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 4: day and win the day and just try to lock

897
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 4: in on being the best at day and then the

898
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 4: next thing, you know, it got closer and closer and closer.

899
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 4: But again, I think my love for the game really

900
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 4: kept me going because I never still got a chance

901
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 4: to showcase what I wanted to showcase and do what

902
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 4: I wanted to do. So I'll be damn if I

903
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 4: let an injury stop me from doing that, And so

904
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 4: that kept me motivated one.

905
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: But I would just say that.

906
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 4: Just understanding that you know better days are ahead and

907
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 4: that it's not gonna be easy. You know you're gonna

908
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 4: have good days, you're gonna have bad days, but you know,

909
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 4: setting a goal for yourself and understanding that you can

910
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 4: get there with the work that you put in.

911
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 3: And that's the biggest thing, one of the things that

912
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 3: I marveled at.

913
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 5: Like it's crazy because you're in you're in your five, six, six,

914
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 5: I think you're in year six. This is crazy what

915
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 5: I'm about to say. Though he's in year six. The

916
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 5: man hasn't played two hundred games yet, you understand what

917
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 5: I'm saying because of injury, So like to see how

918
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 5: far you've come and what you've been able to do

919
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 5: and then to not that like even though you've garnered

920
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 5: a lot, a lot of knowledge in those six years,

921
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 5: like you still haven't gone that on the floor knowledge

922
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 5: that you see you getting every single night in the

923
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 5: night out Like how is that for you to know that?

924
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: Like damn, Like I'm I'm where I am is it's.

925
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 5: Okay, but like I'm short four years of what I

926
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 5: supposed to have learned right now, and I'm trying to

927
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 5: catch up and I'm still you know, I'm playing ketch up,

928
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 5: but I'm doing all this on the fly, like you're

929
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 5: doing a damn God say that to say, cause it's

930
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 5: like you know, you're doing a damn good job for

931
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 5: what you had missed out on because of what you've

932
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 5: been robbed up because of injury. To be this far

933
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 5: into your career, like I remember saying it, you're six man,

934
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 5: I didn't play like damn six hundred games or something

935
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 5: like you know what I'm saying, Like for you to

936
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 5: only be where you are, but still to be where

937
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 5: you are, it says a lot about how hard you've worked,

938
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 5: what you fought through the perseverance and determination. So just

939
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 5: just talk about that in the grand scope of thing,

940
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 5: like having that the awareness like damn.

941
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: I should be here, but I'm here. But like also

942
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 3: I could only be here, but I am here.

943
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 5: As far as like where my development is, Like that's

944
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 5: amazing to be only two hundred games, but to have

945
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 5: this level of talent and be doing this well and doing.

946
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 4: Being this impactful for your team, It's been my whole life. Man,

947
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 4: I feel like it's been the same story. Like we

948
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 4: just talked about me being cut from JV, I only

949
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 4: had two years to play varsity. So like I'm where

950
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 4: I'm most comfortable at, being an underdog, not being like

951
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 4: everybody you know right ron this.

952
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 3: That and the third.

953
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, I like I love the support

954
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 4: and everything, but like I strive off the doubt and

955
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 4: the hate and the people saying I can't do it.

956
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 4: And like you said, like I also understand I'm grateful

957
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 4: for where I'm at because it could be way worse.

958
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 4: And I also could could not be playing right now.

959
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 4: So like I take the good and I'm thankful for

960
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 4: it and I give all the glory to God. But

961
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 4: I also understand, like I have so much room that

962
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 4: I can grow, And that's what keeps me going because

963
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 4: I really feel like there is no ceiling, like I

964
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 4: can like I can get stronger, like I'm doing I'm

965
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 4: doing now, I can still shoot better. I still like

966
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 4: it's so much stuff that I can continue to do,

967
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 4: like and that's what keeps me going because I still

968
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 4: feel like my IQ for the game is like at

969
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 4: a very high level, but I still can can continue

970
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: to make my teammates better, be a better defender, everything.

971
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 5: So that's one of the things I love about us

972
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 5: being able to have this podcast and bring who we

973
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 5: want on because I feel like people like you are important.

974
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 3: It's cool to get Shaq, Kobe, whoever.

975
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 5: You know, the super super super duper duper start, but

976
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 5: like a person like you is as important as anybody

977
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 5: because you you stand for and you represent like hey,

978
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 5: everything and always gonna go the way that everybody wanted

979
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 5: to go. We all can't be d Wade and get

980
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 5: a farewell tool on the way out and this and that.

981
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 5: But like, look, you and us we are examples of that.

982
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 5: It ain't gonna go everything gonna go perfect, But like

983
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 5: if you keep your head down and keep grinding and

984
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 5: keep believing, like, look this what could happen.

985
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 3: Still good could come.

986
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 5: Still greatness could come, and you could still achieve different

987
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 5: things that people might not have thought were for you anymore.

988
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 5: But if you keep going and you keep doing what

989
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 5: you supposed to do, like you a perfect example. That's

990
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 5: why I love when I sit there and watch every

991
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 5: game and you a sterling example of that. Like everything

992
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 5: didn't go great, Like a number one pick is a

993
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 5: number one pick. They supposed to think that you supposed

994
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 5: to popa and be this and be that, but you

995
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 5: are an example today. Yeah, I wasn't number one pick

996
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 5: and I didn't do what y'all thought I was gonna do.

997
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: But I'm not. I'm not out of here. I'm not done,

998
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like it's not over.

999
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 5: I'm still My story still continues, and it's regardless of

1000
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 5: how if it's how you guys wanted or not, it's

1001
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 5: a success store and that's what it's gonna be.

1002
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

1003
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 5: How refreshing was it to you know, for your next

1004
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 5: destination to be a place like Orlando where you were

1005
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 5: able to come here like you said, you know, put

1006
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 5: your head down, do your work, get your body right.

1007
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 5: But like the fan base, I feel like, you know,

1008
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 5: Orlando is a different place. You know, we got me

1009
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 5: and Darius live here. We got the type of fan

1010
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 5: base that allows you that grace and that that time

1011
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 5: to get yourself right. And they aren't as critical as

1012
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 5: some are. Northern, you know, slash Eastern, you know cities

1013
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 5: like I played in New York, so I know how

1014
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 5: it can be.

1015
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 3: And it's a big difference.

1016
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 5: So how much different was it for you to come

1017
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 5: here and to feel the embrace and to feel that

1018
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 5: freedom you had to go and take your time to

1019
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 5: do what you need to do, and then when you

1020
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 5: came back, I was there.

1021
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 3: I remember it. It was the.

1022
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 5: Embrace, salvation, the love for you. Like, how was that

1023
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 5: for you to experience that in contrast to what you

1024
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 5: had just gone through?

1025
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: It was dope.

1026
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 4: And don't get me wrong, I think Philly fans you know,

1027
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 4: still supporting me, crazy like staying in ovation like it

1028
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 4: was also wrong. It was the people that was crazy

1029
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 4: and ruin it for the man Again, I played hard

1030
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 4: and I did what I had to do, and they

1031
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 4: love people that play hard for them, so like they

1032
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 4: did that thing. But coming here was like all open arms,

1033
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 4: you know, very laid back. People ain't running up to

1034
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 4: you to you know, they let you be who you are,

1035
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 4: and like it was just dope, you know. And and

1036
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 4: also coming here and being able to help the team

1037
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 4: win and just do certain things that makes it even better.

1038
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 4: So like again, just building the love that I have

1039
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 4: here and you know, the open arms and how supportive

1040
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 4: everybody is here is really really dope. And it's dope

1041
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 4: to see the crowd just continue to build, you know,

1042
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 4: even with us getting peat and like the pushes that

1043
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 4: were making now it's it's funny. It makes you want

1044
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 4: to play even harder to see the city go crazy.

1045
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 4: So how you feel about that facility? Y'all got man

1046
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 4: like you you ship before you you like me, you

1047
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 4: knowed we really ain't nothing to do.

1048
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 5: We was already top tier around the league anyway, Like

1049
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 5: I don't know where this came from, but thank you,

1050
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 5: like God, like when you saw what was really going

1051
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 5: on because you believe it, Like because you know you're

1052
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 5: not you're not one to you you've been around lead

1053
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 5: even been in some other places in the cities to

1054
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 5: like to see what they did, Like how were how

1055
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 5: in all and wild were you walking in there? Like

1056
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 5: locker rooms to the to everything, just the all the

1057
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 5: amenities and the whole, the whole. That's crazy, Acul. That

1058
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 5: is like I ain't never seen nothing like it. It's

1059
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 5: like again, it just shows you how invested they are

1060
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 5: into us. I feel like, especially like like you said,

1061
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 5: already having kind of some nice stuff, I feel like

1062
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 5: they want us to be able to be able to

1063
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 5: stay here and be able to have everything we need here,

1064
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 5: and like the facility really is crazy. Like it's like,

1065
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 5: I don't know, it's kind of like you, dann, you

1066
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 5: want your house to look like that, almost like we

1067
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 5: shot we should we should have proposition to shoot that.

1068
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 5: Damn episode up and.

1069
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: Them.

1070
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 3: It's nice to pull up on me. It's definitely nice. No,

1071
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 3: that thing is crazy, bro. Like when I came there

1072
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: this year for for.

1073
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 5: Media Day, Dude, I came here like what's going on?

1074
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 5: Like this is it? It's like a block away from

1075
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 5: the mweight bro. I'm like okay, okay, I'm like, damn

1076
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 5: you pull okay.

1077
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 3: I wouldn't expect that to be there.

1078
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 5: But when you go in and it's like, oh hell,

1079
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 5: I'm like waiting like I was just standing there like wait.

1080
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: Somebody was doing around here, like this's going on? Like

1081
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 3: this shit has overwhelmeding, Like for real, bro, you definitely

1082
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: feel good. You don't be rushing to get up out

1083
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 3: of there.

1084
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: Watching y'all games, Like I feel like y'all are a

1085
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 2: whole another team when you're playing, and you can tell,

1086
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: like when you're in the game, the pace that you

1087
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: run and what you do is different than what they

1088
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: have on the court with going through all the stuff

1089
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: that you don went through, Like how does that feel.

1090
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 3: The feel good? Man? Because I honestly feel like I'm

1091
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 3: very valuable.

1092
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: Man.

1093
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 4: I feel like I honestly make everybody on the floor

1094
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 4: better almost to a fault, where like I'm trying to

1095
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 4: help my teammates play so well that I like miss

1096
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 4: out opportunities for myself. So like that's something that I

1097
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 4: also learned now, like understanding that there's a time for

1098
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 4: me to go get it and it's a time for

1099
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 4: me to take over, but it's also a way to

1100
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 4: take over the game with not just me scoring, you know,

1101
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 4: it's ways to play defense to help.

1102
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 3: My teammates stick on.

1103
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so like being at point guard and

1104
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 4: understanding that, like that's what it's all about. Like I

1105
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 4: want to be known as a winning player, and I

1106
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 4: think that I'm showing that now and I'm glad that

1107
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 4: I'm getting, you know, some of the recognition for it,

1108
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 4: because like that's all I care about is winning, and

1109
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 4: that's all I've always cared about. So I think like,

1110
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 4: as long as I take care of that, like everything

1111
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 4: that's supposed to come for me is gonna come. And

1112
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 4: like that's the way like I kind of came up

1113
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 4: like trying to do good for others, and I always

1114
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 4: you know, come out fine. So again, it feels good

1115
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 4: for like not only like my teammates to feel that,

1116
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 4: but like, you know, I feel like a lot of

1117
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 4: people are starting to see that.

1118
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: How was it to see a kid from Seattle be

1119
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 2: the number one pick and say that, like, oh man,

1120
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: I used to watch all your game coming up and

1121
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: watching it's crazy number one pick and he's on the

1122
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: team and seeing you and t Ross.

1123
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 4: You know, I think it's dope. You know again, I

1124
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 4: think it's like a unique experience. Well for me, I'm

1125
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 4: this is my second time playing on the team with

1126
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 4: a number one pick. I play with Ben and now

1127
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 4: I'm playing with Pete, so like I also understand what

1128
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 4: he's going through in the sense, so like I feel

1129
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 4: like me being what I've been through, I think he understands, like,

1130
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 4: you know, he has somebody real that's not like that

1131
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 4: also has been a number one pick, so like I

1132
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 4: feel like he knows that, like it's somebody that he

1133
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 4: can talk to, and you know, a real Hooper. And

1134
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 4: then also having the Seattle Ties, it's just like it

1135
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 4: makes it even better. So a real Hooper right there.

1136
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 4: You know, he's going to be something like real special.

1137
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 4: He already is something special. But like like as the

1138
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 4: game continues to slow down for him, like I'm super sad,

1139
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 4: I'm you know, honored that I have a chance to

1140
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 4: be able to be a point guard that can help

1141
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 4: him right now, because like it's sometimes you going like

1142
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 4: most of time when you top pick, you go on

1143
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 4: a team that's not that good and you gonna you know,

1144
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 4: you can learn how to play bad basketball. So like

1145
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 4: I'm just glad I have a chance, you know, to

1146
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 4: give him a little bit of like jewels and stuff

1147
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 4: like that to help him become like one of the

1148
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 4: best players that he can be.

1149
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 5: Speaking on that you say, like being drafted and having

1150
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 5: a chance to learn how to play bad basketball.

1151
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 3: I feel like coach Moley has been great for y'all.

1152
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 5: Like the biggest thing that lets me, as a former

1153
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 5: player know that I look at you guys, how y'all

1154
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 5: respond to him, how he's been relatable to y'all, and

1155
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 5: how he's been able to get y'all to respond to

1156
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 5: him and to play how he wants to play. Because

1157
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 5: I mean, the one thing we all know, we see

1158
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 5: teams that are undisciplined and whatever don't listen to.

1159
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: We see that every day.

1160
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 5: Y'all see that as players when y'all go out there,

1161
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 5: and we see it as former players. So for me,

1162
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 5: that was something I noticed and recognize and knowledge, Like, Yo,

1163
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 5: they respond to Marow and they fighting for Marow and

1164
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 5: like generally every night they come out here and they

1165
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 5: show an identity. They show the defensive side of the

1166
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 5: ball that he tries to preach the most, and like,

1167
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 5: it's not easy for a coach, especially a young new coach,

1168
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 5: new head coach, never before head coach, to come in

1169
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 5: and get a team to assume an identity and also

1170
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 5: go out there and literally compete their ass off for

1171
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 5: him night in. So tell me what coach has done

1172
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 5: to you know, to kind of get the team to

1173
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 5: be all in on him, because I mean, we as fans,

1174
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 5: we as anybody's watching, we see that you guys go

1175
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 5: out there and y'all get some wins because we played

1176
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 5: harder than that, you know what I'm saying. And like

1177
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 5: that's something to be said for a team and their

1178
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 5: coach that has them playing like that.

1179
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 4: Man, I think the biggest thing with Moses and he

1180
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 4: kind of, like I even told him, he reminds me

1181
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 4: of Coach Romo a little bit as far as like

1182
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 4: he cared about us as people, Like it's not just

1183
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 4: about who for him. Like, don't get me wrong, he

1184
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 4: cares about winning. He hates losing, but he more wants

1185
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 4: us to be great young men. And like, especially with

1186
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 4: a team like us, we got a lot of young guys,

1187
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 4: It's like that always makes you feel better as a person,

1188
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 4: you know, coming and knowing that a guy isn't just

1189
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 4: worried about winning or just talking basketball all the time.

1190
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 4: You know, he's asking how you're doing. He's worried about

1191
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 4: how your family doing, you know, stuff like that. So

1192
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 4: like I think that's a big part about it. But

1193
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 4: he also has a good combination of like getting on us,

1194
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 4: but like understand we have a young team, so making

1195
00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 4: it fun.

1196
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 3: Like it's not all real drill drill.

1197
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 4: It's like a good combination that come in and get

1198
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 4: your work in, lock in for right now, and then

1199
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 4: you can go enjoy and do what you gotta do.

1200
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 4: But we got to take care of business. So I

1201
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 4: think it's all those combinations. But and then also like

1202
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 4: a couple of guys like myself, Gary, you know, guys

1203
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 4: who played for different coaches and understanding like we got

1204
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 4: to coach that rocks with us, Like you know what

1205
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 4: I'm saying, So we gotta protect we gotta protect him.

1206
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 4: So like we stressed out a lot.

1207
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: That's dope to here, Man, you don't been in the

1208
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 2: league six years now, and uh you magic fresh sure game.

1209
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: Tell me one of your dunk ones that you remember

1210
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: that always stick in your head or they always sending

1211
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 2: big he.

1212
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: Didn't have some? Yeah he had down here was one

1213
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 1: of the ones that you remember always.

1214
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 4: I had one against Golden State probably like a few

1215
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 4: years ago. It was in Golden State, and I went

1216
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 4: through like a pick and roll and I took off

1217
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 4: off one foot. I think it's my man and MARII

1218
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 4: spellman and I dunked it and it look he was

1219
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 4: a foul too, Like like, I fell on my back

1220
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 4: and it was.

1221
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 3: It was right before the half.

1222
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 5: It was a foul.

1223
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 3: I'm telling you.

1224
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 4: I got to pull up the video. It was a

1225
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 4: foul and uh, I fell on my back, but it was.

1226
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 4: It was nasty, right, and it was. It was right

1227
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 4: for half. I know it was because I fell on

1228
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 4: the ground. I got up and walked to the bench.

1229
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 4: I thought that I was like the quarter, it was halftime.

1230
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 4: Everybody was walking out to the thing. I had to

1231
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 4: sit down for a second. I was kind of hurt too,

1232
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 4: but it was it was nice that probably one of

1233
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 4: my back between that when I had to put that

1234
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 4: I had to put back this year against that randall.

1235
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 3: Uh, the New York one.

1236
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: I remember, it was nasty.

1237
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 5: I was there when I was calling that when I said,

1238
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 5: oh my dang, now listen, this is what I want

1239
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 5: to say, because like I see me and my man said, knuckleheads,

1240
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 5: we be in the community even here in Lando doing

1241
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 5: the turkey driving things like that.

1242
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 3: I salute you because I see you.

1243
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, in the community doing different things,

1244
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 5: giving back turkeys.

1245
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 3: I see you got bow out there. I vote. I

1246
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 3: love so I love to the community and stuff. Man.

1247
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 5: I always love and appreciate dudes to really, you know,

1248
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 5: dive in and do that because this is this is

1249
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 5: not your community, even though you're doing it in DC

1250
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 5: as well, and I know your mom and your sister

1251
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 5: to help you out with that. But just tell me

1252
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 5: and talk about how important that you know, you being

1253
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 5: in the community and doing the different things. I saw

1254
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 5: you on the award for being the biggest magic player

1255
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 5: that's in the community, and they do that every year

1256
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 5: since since I've been here, they always give an award

1257
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 5: the community the war. So tell me what you know,

1258
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 5: what makes you do that. I know you got your

1259
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 5: mom and your sister and they always on hand. They're

1260
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 5: speaking and doing and talking about how important it is

1261
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 5: to them. So just talk about to us how it

1262
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 5: is for you to be able to do that and

1263
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 5: give back to not just our community here in Orlando,

1264
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 5: but your community back in d C.

1265
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 4: Well that's how my mom is still to me since

1266
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 4: and my sister since we were young, Like even when

1267
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 4: we have nothing, like every Thanksgiving every Christmas. We were

1268
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 4: signed up to go give away turkeys at the center.

1269
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 4: So it's something that we just did because you know,

1270
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 4: it's something that we love to do. Like we feel good,

1271
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 4: you know, being able to help someone. And as soon

1272
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 4: as I got to the league and I was able to,

1273
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 4: you know, my life change, that was one of my

1274
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 4: biggest things I wanted to make sure I did, was

1275
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,479
Speaker 4: make sure I gave back as much as I could

1276
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 4: because I came from nothing and I didn't really have

1277
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 4: that many pros that came back or just people in

1278
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 4: general that came back and just you know, looked out

1279
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 4: for our community. So it's just something that's like second

1280
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 4: nature to me. It actually like brings a joy to

1281
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 4: my heart, you know. And I had to learn to,

1282
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 4: you know, because I always used to go and actually,

1283
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 4: like you said, be there to be able to give

1284
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 4: give back. But like when I started to realize how

1285
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,479
Speaker 4: much of you know, just me smiling and me talking

1286
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 4: to people just saying hello and saying have a good day,

1287
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 4: how much it changed, you.

1288
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: Know, their lives, it made it me even more to me.

1289
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 4: And then especially having my kids now, you know, it's

1290
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 4: something I want to instill in them as well, so

1291
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 4: just it's something that like I'm feel good and I

1292
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 4: don't feel like it's something that I have to do

1293
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 4: or something that I want any type of recognition for it.

1294
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 4: But it's something that like it actually feels good to do.

1295
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 4: So as long as I'm able to do it, I'm

1296
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 4: gonna continue to do it.

1297
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 5: D C.

1298
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 2: If you had to pick your favorite three players from

1299
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 2: d C, your favorite three, not your top three, your

1300
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: your favorite three, the one that caught you.

1301
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,919
Speaker 1: Who would be them three?

1302
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 4: Kevin Durant, Bees Beasley, These get slept on a lot.

1303
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 4: I probably have to say, damn, look franchised, I say,

1304
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 4: but I ain't really watched him.

1305
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 3: You know, he worked. I used to watch a lot

1306
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 3: of you know, I hear about him a lot. You know,

1307
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 3: you know who else I hear.

1308
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 4: About a lot that when bias, Oh man, my mom

1309
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 4: actually my mom was like closer to him. So like

1310
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 4: I'll have to say them three.

1311
00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, young fellow, the COmON.

1312
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 5: Like that, but like, yeah, respectively, that was another level

1313
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 5: right there. Hey, listen, this is one thing I want

1314
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 5: to ask you. You I got a chance to play

1315
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 5: one year with him, Talk about what you know and

1316
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,919
Speaker 5: what you heard about Mike beazy because to me, he's

1317
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 5: one of the anomalies of the league and of basketball

1318
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 5: period because he's he's one of the coldest dudes.

1319
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 3: I don't care who you talk to. Anybody that played

1320
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 3: with him.

1321
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 5: Got to see him practice, spend time with him, and

1322
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 5: really see him. He one of the coldest dudes that

1323
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 5: can still right now do it. He will boogie your

1324
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 5: favorite player's favorite player down, like tell me what you

1325
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 5: know and like being from that area, what you heard

1326
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 5: of him, if you seen anything, and just he is

1327
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 5: the true definition of a walking bucket ever seen one,

1328
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 5: Like real talk, Mike Beezy is called lefty six nine six.

1329
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 4: Nine at least legit the perfect Like yeah he probably

1330
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 4: tald that and he might be sixteen shoot it everything

1331
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 4: and with whatever you're gonna talk trash, but like just

1332
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 4: up pure hooper, Like no matter how he coming to

1333
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 4: the gym, he's gonna come get buckets like it don't matter.

1334
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 4: Like and he loves like you can tell he's a

1335
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 4: guy that just love the game. You know, obviously situations

1336
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 4: or how they are, but he still loved the game. Man,

1337
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 4: somebody that loves the hoop and has a lot of respect.

1338
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 4: You know, back home but yeah, I'll say probably one

1339
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 4: of the most gifted.

1340
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 3: Hoopers I've seen.

1341
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 5: You know, I still, in my heart of hearts believe

1342
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 5: in the right situation, right scenarios. He giving people great

1343
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 5: for sure right now watching them on social media.

1344
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 3: Busting fools up.

1345
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 5: I'm talking about giving fools though for real business. But

1346
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 5: I ain't got no doubt that if somebody gave him

1347
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 5: an opportunity, bro, and he was in the right scenario

1348
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 5: and people kept things in order, like Bro. Absolutely, I'm

1349
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 5: telling you that boy was a goddamn they shoot.

1350
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 3: Fuck that fact.

1351
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: Big point. Go start bench trade. You have to start one.

1352
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: You have to bench one. You have trade one Jason Kidd,

1353
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: Gary Payton and another big card penny penny. You have

1354
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: to start one. You have to bench one, trade one.

1355
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: So Jason Kid, Gary paid a penny starting.

1356
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that made it different.

1357
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: I want to hear this, Damn.

1358
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 3: I'm me I'm gonna start penny. See see I knew

1359
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 3: I knew that, knew it in my heart. I'm gonna

1360
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 3: start penny.

1361
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 4: M hm.

1362
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 3: Then you got two Oakland dudes, one of the big

1363
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 3: one a little hammy. What are you gonna do? I'm

1364
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 3: gonna go ahead. You put paying that the two I mean, big.

1365
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: Trading kids.

1366
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 3: I wouldn't like that, but I can live with the trade.

1367
00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 3: We're gonna we're gonna put them on the big I can.

1368
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: That was tough.

1369
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 3: I knew Penny was gonna win, that Penny gonna.

1370
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: Win because I was starting J kidd, bro Penny man,

1371
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: I have to get rid of the GP.

1372
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 3: I know what I want to ask because I might

1373
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 3: haven't seen it, but we can get into this, like

1374
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 3: you know, like.

1375
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: The bag.

1376
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 5: When you got the bag, like you said, you got blessed,

1377
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 5: you went, you win number one, so you know, none

1378
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 5: of us that's like you. And it's a different era

1379
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 5: with all money, a little bit different. So I don't

1380
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 5: want to hear bout Lord knows, we know you took

1381
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 5: care of my mom, crib whatever. That's lovely, God bless you.

1382
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 5: But I'm talking about what did young Mark Kell do

1383
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 5: to treat himself to say, boy, you did this ship

1384
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 5: like we've been trying to do, like we all did it.

1385
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 5: Forget anybody's opinion. When you got home from getting this,

1386
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 5: you felt damn good, like this was I working my

1387
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 5: ass off and I like this all legit. I did this,

1388
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 5: Like how did what did you do?

1389
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 3: It's cars. It's probably my two cars, because you know

1390
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 3: the first thing saying, you know, no I got a raft, I.

1391
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 5: Had a jag white one, right, yeah, I had the

1392
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 5: wagon first because I'm gonna tell you how I put

1393
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 5: it together. Because we neighbors. He don't know we neighbors

1394
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 5: will be neighbors. A couple few times I'm headed to

1395
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 5: the game, were taking the same way the fourth between

1396
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 5: now to the four eight. I'm sitting here like whipp

1397
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,479
Speaker 5: and I'm like damn. I'm like, oh, he's too tong

1398
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 5: shouty over there with the two tone rolls. But I'm like, nah,

1399
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 5: that guy be a magic player, right. You know, it's

1400
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 5: a couple of football cup baseball players in the area.

1401
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 3: It could be.

1402
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 5: He taking every stop I'm taking. When I get off,

1403
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 5: he getting I said, hell not, I go this way

1404
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 5: into the little you know, to the guy go the right.

1405
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 3: I ain't no player left. Make that one people parking

1406
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 3: man opened it up. Now I gotta go left. He

1407
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 3: goes right.

1408
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 5: I said, that's the god damn, MA, Look this is

1409
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 5: how I'm gonna call you. I did the same thing

1410
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 5: the DJ before DJ. I still left right.

1411
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:22,959
Speaker 3: I said, you acting real life, real light skin because they.

1412
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,919
Speaker 5: Put the new exit off, you know, the new eggs.

1413
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 5: I ain't gotta go through the hood. Look look, look,

1414
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 5: look to the hood.

1415
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 3: No more black. Once in a while, every time I

1416
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 3: spit right off right down the I'm hearing Anderson and

1417
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 3: going on the.

1418
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 5: Hook.

1419
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, I gotta go through that. I'm gonna hit the.

1420
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 5: You get your alert every time on my wrong like

1421
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 5: you ain't never seeing a don't in your mic on

1422
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 5: bikey adults on bicycles in my wrong camp, I'm talking

1423
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 5: about grown people over the round making it happen on bicycles. Boy,

1424
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 5: I'm talking all they wanted to love though. You shoot Hey,

1425
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 5: cause when you get out that game about left, they

1426
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 5: might be cards, barbecue and whatever on the block. Boy,

1427
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 5: you better show love and be real, just be cool.

1428
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,959
Speaker 5: That's why I beloved Hey. I had to get DJ

1429
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 5: one time I say.

1430
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 3: Hold on what you're doing by past the situation? I said, no,

1431
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear.

1432
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 5: That, can we?

1433
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 3: He said on the side right across.

1434
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, So yeah, like DJ, I had to get him

1435
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 5: for that, But like, yeah, man, I didn't call him

1436
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 5: a couple of times going to the game I'm about

1437
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 5: to get there to do the Little Proud, the little broadcast,

1438
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 5: and I see the black and white, said, I see you.

1439
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1440
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 5: I then one time I saw that, I saw the silhouette,

1441
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 5: I saw the dreads. I say, okay, Barol ship. Now yeah,

1442
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 5: it was like this, I said, I knew.

1443
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 4: Man.

1444
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,960
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1445
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:16,560
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01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,920
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