1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: What's up everybody walking to move the stacks? 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 3: DJ? 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 2: Buck back with you, Buck? 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 3: What is going on? 6 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: Man? Not too much? 7 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 3: DJ? 8 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: Is the fun time of year, Like we're in the 9 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: middle of the thing. We had trade deadline and all 10 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: this stuff like come and go. We're getting to the 11 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: stretch of it. But one of the things that I 12 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: want to ask you about, DJ, there is such a divide. 13 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if we've ever seen the league so 14 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: divided in terms of the teams that are performing well, 15 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: oh man, that are underperforming, Like the number of two 16 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: and seven. 17 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: Is ridiculous that we're seeing. 18 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: It is unbelievable to see the divide in a league 19 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: that is built for everyone to finish nine and eight. 20 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 2: We're not seeing that. 21 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: And I really can't understand why, because I think the 22 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: league has certainly good players and good coaches. I just 23 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: don't understand why we're now seeing upsets and are we 24 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: seeing such the difference between the good teams and the 25 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 1: bad teams. 26 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: So right now two and seven teams New England, Jacksonville, 27 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: New Orleans, Carolina, Cleveland, Vegas and the Giants followed by 28 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: two and six teams Miami and Tennessee. Like goodness, gracious, 29 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 3: we've got nine teams that with two wins right now. Nine, 30 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 3: Like I've never said, I don't remember ever seeing anything 31 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: like this. 32 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: No, it's never been normally like the league is built 33 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: to have everyone right around the center line, but we're 34 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: not seeing that now. 35 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: Will I will say this, and we talk about it. 36 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: We always talk in terms of like players in personnel 37 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: in those things, DJ, I've never seen so many games 38 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: like mismanaged from a situational awareness standpoint, from a when. 39 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: To go for two, when not to go for two, 40 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: when to go for it on fourth down? 41 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: Teams that are just leaving points on the field by 42 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: not kicking like gimme field goals. 43 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: I do one if we went so far in the 44 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: other direction with whether you call it analytics or I 45 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: would say high risk approaches, that we're seeing more teams 46 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: just lose games because they're not properly executing things that 47 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: were very fundamental when it came from a management standpoint. 48 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 3: Well, that's been my answer, you know, as someone who 49 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: calls Charger games when asked what the biggest difference is 50 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 3: with that team and I've said they don't. They're not 51 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: giving anything away and just by you know, and I 52 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: think that goes back to oursels, right, you know, his 53 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 3: old idea is more games are loss than one. Like 54 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: you just you don't give games away. You don't give 55 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: games away, you'll want you go to the playoffs every year. 56 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: Just take care of business, don't blow coverages, Uh, don't 57 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 3: have clean run throughs from your offensive line where you're 58 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 3: not picking things up if you just if you lose 59 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: games based off physically losing games in other words, they 60 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: physically we couldn't block them, you know, those those things, 61 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 3: we couldn't cover them, We couldn't separate, like the one 62 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: on one battles. We just didn't win the one on 63 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 3: one pats. But that's such a small part of the games. 64 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 3: The majority of them are lost by people blowing coverages, 65 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: blowing protections, making poor decisions as a quarterback, you know, 66 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: gambling on defense. Like that's how all the regular season 67 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 3: is every single week. 68 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is funny how that is. 69 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: And you talked about it, and Bill Parcells had talked 70 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: about it. I played for coaching Marty Settenheimer, who believed 71 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: more games are lost in one if you can just 72 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: take care of the little things turnovers, penalties, big plays allowed, 73 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: kicking game eras. 74 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 2: If you just just kind of own those. 75 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: Areas where you do the simple test better than the 76 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: other opponent, you can win, and you can win a lot. 77 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: Now you have to do a little more to win 78 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: in the postseason, but in regular season play, it really 79 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: comes down to. 80 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: Not giving games away. 81 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: And I'm just amazed at how many teams are willingly 82 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: giving games away in the hope of getting a big 83 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: return on the investment when it comes to the daring ways. 84 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: And I will say this, I think there's something if 85 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: you look at some of these teams that have had turnarounds, 86 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: like Washington's a great example, right and and Jayden Daniels 87 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: rightfully gets a lot of that credit. He's been unbelievable. 88 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: He's gonna be a pro bowler year one. He's been awesome. 89 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: Three turnovers, he's just been he's played clean, he's been great. 90 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 3: Dan Quinn gets a lot of credit as well because 91 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 3: of the job he's done getting these guys organized. You know, 92 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: one of the things this has been a theme for 93 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: us for a couple of years now, maybe two years. 94 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: I thought we kind of stumbled onto this of you know, 95 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: of all the things that you're after, and we in 96 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 3: Baltimore we had the sti, speed, toughness, instincts, and it 97 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 3: was like, okay, if you're trying to find a competitive 98 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 3: advantage in this league, and it's a league that's built 99 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 3: for parody. It's not baseball, you know, where you have 100 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: the teams with one hundred million dollars more spent than other. 101 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: This league is built for everything to be perfectly equal. 102 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: Everybody should be five hundred that's the way the rules are. 103 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: So it's a it's a league in the margins. How 104 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: can I find a difference in the margins? So, in 105 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: other words, if we don't want to be in a 106 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: crowded store. If you're in this store and every looking 107 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,119 Speaker 3: for speed, everybody's looking for size, you know all those things. 108 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: I honestly think Washington is a great example of smart 109 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 3: football players. Is a that is how you win in 110 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 3: the margins. Look at all the guys they brought in 111 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: this offseason, all of them. I was around Austin dec 112 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: He's one of the smartest football players I've ever talked to. 113 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: And that's not just what he does on the field. 114 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: That's him in the room sharing that wisdom with the 115 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 3: rest of their guys. Ertz incredibly smart. That gets spread there. 116 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: You think about Bobby Wagner going over there, how intelligent 117 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: he was. Like, they have all these different pieces on 118 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: this team they brought in. They brought in a lot 119 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: of smart guys. 120 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 2: Buck. 121 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: Let's go back to when New England was playing get 122 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: their best going all the way back. I remember working 123 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: for the Carolina Panthers and at the time we played 124 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl thirty eight, we played the Pages, but in 125 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: the final four, those teams were the ones who had 126 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: the most college. 127 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: Graduates on their team. 128 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: So you think about the model that New England had 129 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: where they always had a preference for high IQ smart 130 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: players in those things with intelligence, they also wanted maturity. 131 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: When you look at. 132 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: The Washington Commanders and what Dan Quinn has intentionally done, 133 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: not only did he bring in players that he knew 134 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: and had familiarity with, they're an older team, a mature team. 135 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: You don't see some of the silliness from that team 136 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: that you see from other teams. And then let's talk 137 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: about their quarterback and the reports coming out about him 138 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: showing up four or five o'clock in the morning been 139 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: the first one in the last one out. How Bobby 140 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: Wagner and some of the teammates are amazed that they 141 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: walk into facility. He's already fully lathered up watching the film, 142 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: done all these other things. DJ, there is something too, 143 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: not only the intelligence, but the maturity that you're looking 144 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: for when it comes to putting any other team and 145 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: looking for the guys that are right fits for your 146 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: ball club. 147 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's I think there's something to that, man. 148 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: And again, teams that don't blow coverages, don't blow protections, 149 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 3: tend to have smarter, smarter teams you know that don't 150 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: make those mistakes. There was a play specific play in 151 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 3: the Chargers game this last week, watching them against Cleveland, 152 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: and uh, charges up maybe a score or two, and 153 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: there's a throw in the middle of the field, and uh, 154 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: I believe it was Darwin. It was either Durwin or 155 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: a Loie Gilman where Jamis kind of telegraphed it and 156 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: you could have jumped it and maybe, you know, maybe 157 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: you make a play on the ball. But knowing kind 158 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: of where they were in the game and knowing the 159 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: struggles the Browns had had offensively, it was I thought 160 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: it was pretty aware of like, you know what, I'm 161 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: going to secure the tackle. I'm not going to fly 162 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 3: by take a chance that this, you know, I miss 163 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: a tackle and this goes for a touchdown a long 164 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: game and kind of bring some life into a dead stadium. 165 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: Like just a little thing like that. It seems insignificant 166 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: at the time, but that's awareness. That's you know, intelligence 167 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: and awareness kind of all wrapped up together as one 168 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: one hundred percent. 169 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's so much of what you're looking for 170 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: is understanding time, score situation. Uh, what do I need 171 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: to do in this moment where we at do we 172 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: have control of the game. If we have control of 173 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: the game, then look I can air on the side 174 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: of caution just to make sure that we don't give 175 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,679 Speaker 1: it away. I think it's interesting when you talk about 176 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: like your experience with the Chargers and watching Harbor and 177 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: how Harball has quickly turned the Chargers around just because 178 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: he's not giving games away. And it's one of those 179 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: things that sometimes it doesn't show up in the box scores, 180 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't earn you the highlights on TV where people 181 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: talk about the bells and Wilton's and all the creativity, 182 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: creative stuff that you're doing. But there's some coaches that 183 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: just understand how to win games and win games in 184 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: those moments. And going back to the Monday night game 185 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: with the can City Chiefs and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 186 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: I say this, and I don't want to be disrespectful 187 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: to the Can City Chiefs, but the can City Chiefs 188 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: have become the new England Patriots. 189 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 2: Oh. 190 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 3: I wouldn't saying that for a while. That's exactly who 191 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 3: they are, the early Patriots, not the Randy Moss Patriots. 192 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: But they've cracked the code in terms of winning that 193 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: you can look at the game in DJ. 194 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: I'm watching the game. 195 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: And I'm like, like, this is great, but can't see 196 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: he's gonna find the way to win. They're going to win, 197 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: like they get the ball first whatever, They're gonna make 198 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: the plays that need to be made. And the scary 199 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: thing about them doing it Patrick Mahomes figuring out how 200 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: to win at an early age, that is scary in 201 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: terms of just learning how to win games and manage 202 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: games and do those things. And I think it also 203 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: shows that an old dog can learn new tricks. Because 204 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, Andy Reid was always to ride or. 205 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: He wanted the stats and all that stuff. He didn't 206 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: care about that anymore games. 207 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: And now he's like, yeah, I don't care. I just 208 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: want to win the game. Like it doesn't matter how 209 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: we do it. I just want to win the game. 210 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: There's something to be said for a you win more 211 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: by making sure that you mastered the art of not 212 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: losing games. 213 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean even just watching that team in a 214 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: two minute drill, I mean, there's no there's zero greed 215 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: involved with them. You know what we've got time, Well 216 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: check it out. We'll check it down to the back 217 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 3: three times. I'll take off and run. I'll find a 218 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 3: little outlet in the flat. Like it's just so methodical 219 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 3: and so in the moment and not trying to make 220 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: things bigger than they are, and they're going to be. 221 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 3: I mean I saw them in the Charging game. I 222 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: think was seventeen to ten. The Chiefs won that game. 223 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: Whatever, whatever the hurdle is, we'll just get over the hurdle. 224 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: We don't need to be anything, you know, specially we're 225 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: not trying to you know, we're not trying to score 226 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: fifty points and break records. We're just trying to win 227 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 3: every game that we can and that requires you know, 228 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 3: making the five plays that you need to make offensively 229 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: and accepting the presence that are going to be given 230 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 3: to you defensively. 231 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: And they do that, just wait for it. I'm just 232 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: gonna wait for the other team to implode. Yeah, nominated 233 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: to great teams. They wait for the other team to implode. 234 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: They're consistent, they're reliable, they know exactly what they're going 235 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: to do, and then not going to give away anything. 236 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: And if you are able to legitimately master that are 237 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: as a team man, it's just going to give you 238 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: an opportunity to win so many games. And I say this, 239 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: and I've always said this about Coach Shottenheimer when he's there, 240 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: Like Coach Schottenheimer showed me and showed us the recipe 241 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: to always get to eleven or twelve wins, Like he 242 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: legitimately said, like, hey, guys, if we don't turn it over, 243 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: if you take care of the ball, you pump when 244 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: you're supposed to punt, you cover, punch, you do all 245 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: this stuff. Eliminate the penalties, make sure we get lined 246 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: up right, guys, we're gonna win ten or eleven. 247 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: Games every year. And that's gonna get you into the playoffs, 248 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: and DJ. 249 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: We know it now. The magic number in this league 250 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: is ten. You win ten games in this league, you 251 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: can write your ticket to the postseason. 252 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 253 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 3: No, it's it's and it's very attainable. When you look 254 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: at the bottom half of this league. Beat up on 255 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: the beat up on those teams. You know, don't lose 256 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 3: bad teams. You'll get to the playoffs. Just beat the 257 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: bad teams. That should be enough. Split even a little 258 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: bit under five hundred. With the good teams, beat the 259 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 3: bad teams, you'll be in the postseason. There's enough bad 260 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 3: teams to go around. And let's say quick break back, 261 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: we come back, we'll get into a little Hot or 262 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: Not get some we'll go on the positives SID We'll 263 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 3: get to some individuals that are hot right now. 264 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: Right after this. 265 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: All about it's time for Hot or Not brought to 266 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 3: you by Wasabi Hot Cloud Storage. Normally do this with players, 267 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: and we're gonna get some players that are playing really 268 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 3: well right now. But I want to get to a 269 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 3: coach first of all, anybody hotter than Ben Johnson. 270 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: Good, no, no, no, no. 271 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say right now, the hottest coaching staff in 272 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: football right now would be the Detroit Lions. And it's 273 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: not just because of the brilliant x's and o's that 274 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: we're seeing on both sides of the ball. Everyone is 275 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: buying into the culture thing that has been created in Detroit. 276 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: You and I've talked, and I've always been a believer 277 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: that the way that your team plays has to be 278 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: a reflection of the city that you represent. 279 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: Detroit is a tough, grizzled city. 280 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: The team the city gets behind the team that is tough, grizzle, 281 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: that represents them, blue collar in their approach, Jared Goff, 282 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: their star players. 283 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: You look at them, You never think that a kid 284 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,119 Speaker 2: from Marin. 285 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: County would be a blue collar guy, but he has 286 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: certainly become that given all the adversity that he's had 287 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: to navigate. So when I look at the way the 288 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: team is constructed. We talked about Brad Holmes and Dan 289 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: Campbell on the previous podcast, but look Ben Johnson in 290 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: the coaching staff. They have been able to take the 291 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: pieces of the puzzle and really put together I would 292 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: say the perfect team for the National Football League. I 293 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: repeat this phrase often when I talk about the Lions. 294 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: They can win with force or finesse, they have the 295 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: ability when we need to get rugged and put on 296 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: the big boy pass and run it at you, we 297 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: can run it right at you and run it down 298 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: your throat. Why big physical offensive line that's one of 299 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: the best in the league. Two running backs that could 300 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: but either one of them can be number one running 301 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: backs for a respective team, so they can line up 302 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: and play old school smash my football. But on the 303 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: perimeter quarterback that is good and efficient playmakers on the outside, 304 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: Amarras Saint Brown, Jameson Williams, some of the other weapons 305 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: that they I mean, there's not a glad weakness on 306 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: this offense. 307 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: They are just well put together and more teams should 308 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: follow that building model. 309 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: When building an offense, I want to be able to 310 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: do everything and then I'll let the circumstances dictate how 311 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: we play each week. 312 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 3: And I think offensive line is the key to being 313 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 3: able to do all those things. If you have a 314 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: stud offensive line, you can run it down people's throats, 315 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 3: you can be involved in screen game and getting out 316 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: in the perimeter. Because you're athletic up front, you can 317 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 3: pass protect if you need to throw it forty five times. 318 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 3: That's the key to unlock everything. And I think that's 319 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 3: you know, that's what Brad Holmes has done in Detroit. 320 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 3: They've been a great job of assembling a really, really 321 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: good offensive line and now the creativity offensive coordinator. Your 322 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 3: playbook doesn't just grow because of the quarterback. It grows 323 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: because of the offensive line and what that allows you 324 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: to do. And so it's a great example of building 325 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 3: it the right way and then having coaches that can 326 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 3: pay that off. 327 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: We were talking about this earlier though, off the air. 328 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: I mean, at some point time, are we going to 329 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: see somebody like a Ben Johnson who's already turned down 330 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 3: head coaching jobs and just say, hey, you know, whatever 331 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 3: the going rate is for head coaches. Right now, I 332 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: think I've proven myself that I'm valuable enough to even 333 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: as a coordinator, as the number two underneath Dan Campbell, 334 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: that why would you not invest head coach money in 335 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: him and keep him and say this is all the 336 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: stuff you love, You get the call plays, you know, 337 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: lead a room. You don't have to deal with any 338 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: other nonsense. You don't have to go to an organization 339 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: and hope and pray that the right quarterback falls to you, 340 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: that your owner is on board with your plan, you know, 341 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 3: there's so many unknowns, like I don't know if there's 342 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: a head coach on sure footing than Dan Campbell is 343 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: right now, So you've got job security. And I would say, 344 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: look what you're paying you know, look what a guard 345 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: is making in this league. I could make a strong 346 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: argument that Ben Johnson is worth more for what he 347 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 3: provides for the Detroit lines. Why would you not just 348 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: pay him head coaches money and say why they don't 349 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 3: need to be a head coach just stay right here. 350 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you're Ben Joson, you have to look 351 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: at the landscape and look at how quickly they're turning 352 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: over head coaches. Right, Look at how quickly this thing 353 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: is in the Dennis Allen gets two and a half years. 354 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: You think about some of the other coaches who are 355 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: on these short term things. 356 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: Robert solid gap but three years, three plus years. I mean, now, 357 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: what do you want to jump into? 358 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: And if I am him, I'm looking at the landscape 359 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks. I'm looking at what's coming in the draft, 360 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: and if I can't get to one of those high 361 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: end guys, why am I leading? Because if you don't 362 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: get a quarterback that first time through it's a rap. 363 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: So if I'm Ben Johnson, if I'm the Detroit Lions, 364 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: I am committed to making sure that I retain him 365 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: because one of the biggest things that we've always talked about, 366 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: whether it's an offensive mind or a defensive minded head coach, 367 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: you wanted the continuity and the consistently of the offense 368 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: being able to stay the same. 369 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: If I'm Detroit and understanding how valuable it is to 370 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: make sure that Jerry Golf is comfortable, I'll overpay. 371 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, coordinator, because you're right when you start factoring in 372 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: the money that we're playing for players, I'm. 373 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: Going to hit your salary caps. 374 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 3: Just an expense, Timmy, Yeah, go sell a couple more 375 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 3: ads in the stadium, you know, I mean, it just 376 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: seems like a no brainer. Man. A couple other people 377 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 3: that have been hot by the way, Joe Burrow coming 378 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 3: off a five touchdown game, uh and their win over 379 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 3: the Raiders, Mahomes as he does. You know, he's starting 380 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 3: to turn it up a little bit here. Three touchdowns 381 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 3: game when he drives over the Bucks Lamar Jackson three 382 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 3: more touchdowns for him and to win over the Broncos. 383 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: And Josh Allen a big divisional win for them against 384 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins, the long field goal to win it, 385 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 3: but he had three touchdowns in that ball game as well. 386 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 3: So plenty of guys playing really good football right now. 387 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: Look, man, here's what I like about Joe Burrow. And 388 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: it's funny because Joe Burr is so like like prickly. 389 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is the best. 390 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow like Joe Burrow. 391 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: And they have a big game coming up Thursday against 392 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens where if they able to win it, it 393 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: really puts them back in the mix in terms of 394 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: some of their goals or whatever. But Joe Burrow has 395 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: always been at his best when look back in the 396 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: corner and they just said. 397 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: Here's the ball go in US games, and he does 398 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 2: it again. So I love what Joe Burr is doing. 399 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: The other part of it because you mentioned Josh Allen 400 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: in the Buffalo Bills and out of Buffalo Bill's a trendy. 401 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: DJ is funny because the Buffalo Bills got knocked off 402 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: and it kind of threw them off their stride, and 403 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: I wondered at a point when they lose, like, man, 404 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: can you win without a true number one or whatever. 405 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 2: They're going to get a Mark. 406 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: Cooper, but really, since they acquired Mark Cooper, he hasn't 407 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: really played as that number one row injuries in those things. 408 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: They're more dangerous now than they have been in the past. 409 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: I think they have a clear view of who they are. 410 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: They've remade themselves in a blue collar fashion, which makes them, 411 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: I think, a more difficult team to defeat and a 412 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: team that's better served to kind of take on some 413 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: of the. 414 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 2: Top teams in the AFC. Yeah. 415 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 3: No, they're in a really good spot right now, especially 416 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: in that conference that was this week's Hot or Not segment. 417 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: Broad to you by with Sabbi Hot cloud storage, store 418 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: more and do more with your data. Try them for 419 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 3: free at withsaby dot Com. All right, Buck, that's it 420 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: for us today. Anything else you want to throw out 421 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 3: there before we get out of. 422 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: Here, man, Look, so we talked about Ben Johnson. I 423 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: would say Aaron Glenn's name is gonna pop up. We 424 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: talked about telling them to Potinualy, New Orleans and some stuff. 425 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: There's a lot of good coaching going on for some 426 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: teams and some bad coaching going on elsewhere. It'll be 427 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: interesting as we continue to see those two and seven 428 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: teams and if they get better or worse, are we 429 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 1: going to see more guys get issued pink slips? 430 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: Even though we don't like that. 431 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: I just wonder how patient will some of these owners 432 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: be when they're teams dealing with these upside down records. 433 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we'll keep an eye on that here over 434 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 3: the next few weeks. All right, this has been a 435 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: fun one today. I hope you guys enjoyed it. We 436 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 3: will be back again. We've got five episodes a week 437 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 3: coming your way. I hope you guys are having a 438 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 3: good football season, better than our two Alma maters another 439 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 3: topic for another day. I'm hoping we're going to finish wrong. 440 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 3: Uh there, man, My son, by the way, is I was. 441 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: I was. Pottery's don't end well. 442 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 3: You know, at least Chargers are playing well for me 443 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: selfishly on that on that front. But I was so 444 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 3: excited for Baylor basketball. 445 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: Buck. 446 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 3: You know, Carolina got to win the other night. Baylor 447 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 3: opens up against Gonzaga and got their doors blown off. 448 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: That's all right, Sometimes sometimes it's the best thing. 449 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: Little opening loss bring everybody back down to earth kind 450 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: of reset. 451 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: Scott Drew typically does a really good job. They forget 452 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: out every one of those teams that I'm a Scott 453 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 3: Drew guy. They got to play some defense, all right. 454 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 3: That's going to do it for us today. We'll see 455 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 3: you next time. Right here, I'll move this stick.