Speaker 1: On this episode of This League, we talk about Ben Simmons.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he hit a three Lebron James's spat
Speaker 1: with a European soccer player that did not go the
Speaker 1: way that he thought. Why the San Antonio Spurs, who
Speaker 1: sit at fifth in the West are actually shopping their
Speaker 1: two best players? Is that true? And we also work
Speaker 1: on answering a bunch of new listener dms. Every single
Speaker 1: time I can, I will mention Ben Simmons. He is
Speaker 1: electric as a player, but even more so I'm keeping
Speaker 1: an eye. I'm keeping an eye on when he shoots threes.
Speaker 1: And we saw the impossible we got ourselves Ben Simmons
Speaker 1: three point shot sighting. It's only I think the second
Speaker 1: or third time this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Simmons. He hit a running twenty seven
Speaker 2: footer with two seconds left in ot uh when they
Speaker 2: were down six against the Cavs.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Oh you mean so at a meaningless time he
Speaker 1: would shoot? Sure, so let's streak out. Clock's running down.
Speaker 1: Game is over and he decides that's when he wants
Speaker 1: to try out a three as it expires. I think
Speaker 1: the crazy thing though, when you see that is you
Speaker 1: almost forget because he never shoots. His form is really good.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's very smooth. There is no reason that
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons should not be out there. I know he
Speaker 1: has a much better shot than Russell Westbrook, no shade.
Speaker 1: Like if Russell Westbrook is content to chuck up threes,
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons should be content to chuck up threes. His
Speaker 1: form is much better.
Speaker 2: That'd be an interesting three point shootout.
Speaker 1: I would love to see that. How much would you
Speaker 1: pay to see that? Like?
Speaker 2: That should be the All Star Like, yeah, halftime show.
Speaker 1: The ugliest three point shooters all go head to head.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see the best shooters. I already
Speaker 1: know they can shoot. I want to see Ben Simmons
Speaker 1: go up against Russell Westbrook one on one against Yannis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Yannis Westbrook, who else Ben Simmons?
Speaker 2: One more kemba, Sure, let's talk kemba. Yeah, good time
Speaker 2: to kimba in there.
Speaker 1: So this illustrates exactly what I've been saying about Ben
Speaker 1: Simmons all year. It's not that he cannot shoot. We
Speaker 1: saw that practice video when he was with his trainer,
Speaker 1: like maybe last summer or the summer before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can shoot.
Speaker 1: That man has a stroke. He just will not shoot,
Speaker 1: will not some mental issue going on inside of his brain,
Speaker 1: and that is a massive problem. And it begs the
Speaker 1: question to me, Am I the only one that cares
Speaker 1: about Ben Simmons? Truly? You could call me a Ben
Speaker 1: Simmons hater, but really, like, truthfully, I'm the only one
Speaker 1: that keeps discussing this. It's so weird, it's so strange
Speaker 1: and bizarre, and yet somehow it's been normalized. Like the
Speaker 1: rest of society right now, tons of things that are
Speaker 1: totally outside of the boundaries of what should be generally
Speaker 1: accepted practices, and yet we just go on and pretend
Speaker 1: that they don't exist. Is totally normal. Point guard doesn't shoot,
Speaker 1: will not shoot, has a mental hang up, But it's okay.
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to what It's okay? Point guards don't
Speaker 1: need to do that. And like the Sixers, fans are
Speaker 1: so delusional that they have just made up so many
Speaker 1: excuses for him, like you know, Magic Johnson didn't shoot?
Speaker 1: Are you thinking that Magic Johnson? Is it good? Like
Speaker 1: John Stockton didn't shoot? Are was he not good as
Speaker 1: a guard? By the way, folks, let me just bust
Speaker 1: your bubble because you know who's saying that, or people
Speaker 1: who are like below twenty five, they didn't see either
Speaker 1: of those players play. They've got like pixelated YouTube clips.
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson shot thirty five percent from three his final
Speaker 1: four years in the NBA. John Stockton was a thirty
Speaker 1: eight point four percent lifetime shooter from three, and at
Speaker 1: one point until Joe Ingles just surpassed his record, he
Speaker 1: was the lifetime all time three point shooter in attempts
Speaker 1: and shots made on the jazz What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: And then what else do they say? Oh, he does
Speaker 1: everything else well, so like that makes up for his inability,
Speaker 1: or we'll call it refusal, a blatant refusal to do
Speaker 1: a big part of his job. His defense is underrated.
Speaker 1: So who cares that he won't do this? Excuses? Excuses, excuses,
Speaker 1: and you know who does not want excuses? According to
Speaker 1: multiple articles, because you know, I went in right after that,
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons three read a bunch of things about him.
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons doesn't want excuses, folks. He told ESPN his
Speaker 1: number one weakness is that he has to rely on
Speaker 1: other people to hold him account. He does not personally
Speaker 1: hold He is such a perfectionist and needs people to
Speaker 1: push him to do the things that make him uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: because he won't do that for himself. He's so afraid
Speaker 1: of failing. His perfectionism is such to an all time high.
Speaker 1: He needs people to push him, to force him to
Speaker 1: do things he does not want to do because he's
Speaker 1: not great at them. And so maybe his teammates are
Speaker 1: failing him. Maybe his coaching staff is failing him. Maybe
Speaker 1: his goddamn fan base is failing him, and they just
Speaker 1: keep enabling this behavior, gaslighting that these deficiencies don't matter.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, folks, they matter. That matters. We are just
Speaker 1: in the wrong. I am a hater. I am in
Speaker 1: the wrong for even making mention that he won't shoot
Speaker 1: every time. It's like, oh, you're just trolling us. You're
Speaker 1: just no, no, folks, I'm not. I mean, I am,
Speaker 1: but I'm not. Ben Simmons knows this is a problem.
Speaker 1: You know how I know because he hired a sports
Speaker 1: psychologist to get him over that mental block, which has
Speaker 1: not happened. He hired a skills trainer to teach him
Speaker 1: to be comfortable shooting. That has not worked. He said,
Speaker 1: I could be one of those guys shooting thirty percent
Speaker 1: from three right now. But I would rather be one
Speaker 1: of those guys shooting forty percent. I mean math, that's
Speaker 1: math for you. He's so caught up, and I'm worried
Speaker 1: about being one of those guards that can't shoot threes.
Speaker 1: I'm worried about being Rajon Rondo. I'm worried about being
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook. So you know what, fuck it. I'm just
Speaker 1: not gonna shoot until I can shoot fifty percent from three.
Speaker 1: And it's like you're never going to get there if
Speaker 1: you don't do it in the game, Ben Simmons, that's
Speaker 1: a fear base. To me, that's a fear based mentality.
Speaker 1: That's a mental hang up that is associated with perfectionism.
Speaker 2: Would you agree absolutely. I mean, there's no doubt that
Speaker 2: there's some sort of block going on there for him.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt.
Speaker 1: Because even if you shot thirty one percent from deep,
Speaker 1: you are now a more dangerous team. Ask Jannis just
Speaker 1: one out of three. We know that Jannis can make
Speaker 1: a few, so we're not going to just let him
Speaker 1: shoot at will from three. Ben, do not be scared
Speaker 1: to fail. You are too good to be scared to fail.
Speaker 1: The sports psychologist said this, which was so incredibly important
Speaker 1: and also lets me know that his team, organization and
Speaker 1: fan base is failing him. She says, if I was
Speaker 1: in charge of the Sixers, I would tell him, if
Speaker 1: you don't take a pull up jumper and a perimeter
Speaker 1: shot in every half, I don't care what your percentages are,
Speaker 1: you're sitting on the bench. A mental health expert who
Speaker 1: has a PhD in this told Brett Brown and probably
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers that the blueprint to making Ben Simmons be
Speaker 1: a monster is to hold that man accountable. Carrot and stick.
Speaker 1: He already has the carrot. We all praise him. Oh,
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, so great, best defender in the league. There's
Speaker 1: no stick except for me. Stick stick stick. You know
Speaker 1: it's crazy, it's crazy. I promise you, though, Ben, I
Speaker 1: promise I will be there for you. I care about you.
Speaker 1: I will be there every step of the way to say,
Speaker 1: great game, Ben, Still no shooting sick three pointer when nothing,
Speaker 1: literally zero was on the line. Nice work. Where did
Speaker 1: you go in the fourth quarter? Ben Simmons? Still hitting
Speaker 1: those hook shots, staying in your comfort zone, Like you said,
Speaker 1: hard against the backboard, doing nothing that makes you uncomfortable. Literally,
Speaker 1: he said, I could shoot at three. But I could
Speaker 1: also hit this sick cook shot that I've been doing
Speaker 1: my entire life. I'm much more comfortable doing that. No shit,
Speaker 1: So fans and Ben and Ben's sister, the PSA is this.
Speaker 1: You may hate me, you may call me Trista Bayles,
Speaker 1: you may say you're a fucking troll. But to me,
Speaker 1: this is tough love and tough love. I'm ready for
Speaker 1: the smoke. I am ready for that because Ben Simmons
Speaker 1: could be one of the most transcendent players we've ever seen,
Speaker 1: or he can be a multi All Star that looks
Speaker 1: back on his career and says, what if what if
Speaker 1: I went outside of my comfort zone? It would shoot?
Speaker 1: And truthfully, maybe I'm helping looking at his performances every
Speaker 1: time I go ham on Twitter. The first game back,
Speaker 1: he had a career performance forty two points. I said, Ben,
Speaker 1: you're not efficient, and I know he saw it because
Speaker 1: his sister saw it. Wasn't efficient. I think he would
Speaker 1: fifty seven percent from the field that game, even after
Speaker 1: the forty two point performance, and it was like, how
Speaker 1: do you go one hundred percent from the first quarter
Speaker 1: and still shoot less than sixty percent from the field
Speaker 1: when you're in the restricted area and his sister tweeted
Speaker 1: at me, went after my lips, and you know what
Speaker 1: happened the next game? Oh my god, Ben Simmons' most
Speaker 1: efficient performance I've ever seen. So I am going to
Speaker 1: continue to inflame. I am going to continue to poke
Speaker 1: the bear. I'm going to continue to take the smoke.
Speaker 1: You know why, because I want the best for mister
Speaker 1: balloon hands. I'll be honest. When I saw this news,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to touch it. I saw its LUFTI
Speaker 1: say some shit about Lebron that seemed like it was
Speaker 1: bordering along politics, and you know, I mean it wasn't bordering,
Speaker 1: it was just right there. And I was like, no way,
Speaker 1: this is not making the rundown, folks. I'm staying all
Speaker 1: the way away from this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're talking about our boys. Lot On Ibrahimovich, Yeah, man.
Speaker 1: Best known in the US for playing for the Galaxy,
Speaker 1: played in Sweden saying Outland. He also has been saying
Speaker 1: outlandis shit all the time. Yeah, he is one of
Speaker 1: those people who has said egotistical comments galore. And what
Speaker 1: he said was about Lebron. This is what he said.
Speaker 1: I don't like it when players talk about politics. Do
Speaker 1: what you're good at aka the sport that you get
Speaker 1: paid for, and stay out of politics. And there was
Speaker 1: no response at this time from Lebron, so I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, why even touch this topic at all?
Speaker 1: It's too hot. But Lebron is such a huge footy fan.
Speaker 1: Dude is even a minority owner of Liverpool. Did you
Speaker 1: know that, Marty?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I remember he used to wear like
Speaker 2: a Liverpool like crest and like postgame stuff, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, was put for it last year's EPL Champion,
Speaker 1: Champion League winner. Hundreds of lists of the crazy things
Speaker 1: Laton has said over the years, ranging from I can't
Speaker 1: help but laugh at how perfect I am to when
Speaker 1: you buy me, you're buying a Ferrari, not a Fiat
Speaker 1: or I forget what the other car that he was.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I was ready to move on right,
Speaker 1: And then someone fanned the flames and they were like Lebron,
Speaker 1: which I love. I love when reporters know they're gonna
Speaker 1: they're gonna get an answer that's going to rock the airwaves.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you've ever been in these moments,
Speaker 1: but like when it's you, your heart's just pounding because
Speaker 1: you know you are about to set the Internet a blaze.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I can imagine.
Speaker 1: Your heart is pumping. Okay, how do I get this
Speaker 1: out right? How do I say it perfectly where I'm
Speaker 1: not the one that gets gets flamed and I'm not
Speaker 1: the one that's like basically accused of inciting drama because
Speaker 1: that's what you're doing, right. You know that you want
Speaker 1: an answer, and an answer that's going to transcend the Internet.
Speaker 1: So they asked lebron, hey, what do you think of
Speaker 1: Laton's comments? And what we got, my Lord, was a
Speaker 1: two minute slow motion Tamahawk Kobe dunk right on laton
Speaker 1: nuts and Laton's face, Edward's dunk in interview form, play.
Speaker 2: The clip at the end of the day.
Speaker 3: You know, I will never shut up about things that's
Speaker 3: that's wrong. I preach about my people, and I preach
Speaker 3: about you know, equality, social injustice, racism, you know, a
Speaker 3: systematic voting, voter suppression, things that go on in our community.
Speaker 3: Because I was a part of my community at one
Speaker 3: point and seeing the things that was going on, and
Speaker 3: I know that you know what's going on still because
Speaker 3: I have a group of three hundred plus kids at
Speaker 3: my school. That's going to say.
Speaker 1: When he says he has three hundred kids for folks
Speaker 1: who are not up to speed, he's talking about the
Speaker 1: I Promise School that he founded created funded a school
Speaker 1: where he pays for underprivileged kids, their tuition, their breakfast,
Speaker 1: lunch and snacks, food for the family for the pantry program.
Speaker 1: School supplies including a computer, a bike with a helmet,
Speaker 1: transportation for the kids within two miles, ged assistants for
Speaker 1: the parents, free college education for anyone who graduates. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on now. So when he's saying he's putting his
Speaker 1: money where his mouth is and he cares about his community,
Speaker 1: that's not all talk continue and they.
Speaker 3: Need a voice, and I'm their voice. I'm their voice,
Speaker 3: and I use my platform to continue to shed light
Speaker 3: on everything that may be going on not only in
Speaker 3: my community but around the uh you know, this country,
Speaker 3: around the world.
Speaker 1: So pause. So this video alone, at the time that
Speaker 1: I looked this up, more than three million views. So
Speaker 1: when he's saying that his voice transcends, that's what he's
Speaker 1: talking about. Massive platform plaguing.
Speaker 3: You know, if there's no reason, well now I want
Speaker 3: to say no reason, but there's no way I will
Speaker 3: ever just stick to sports because I understand how you know,
Speaker 3: how this platform and how powerful my voice is. Facts
Speaker 3: And he can just ask Renee Montgomery, you know if
Speaker 3: I would have shut up and just dribbled seeing that
Speaker 3: beautiful black woman today, you know, be a part of
Speaker 3: a group where she's part of ownership group now with
Speaker 3: the Atlanta Dream down in Atlanta. And it's funny he
Speaker 3: say that because I.
Speaker 1: Believe in like eighteen so also he talks about Renee
Speaker 1: Montgomery that was in Atlanta. Also, Lebron in Atlanta worked
Speaker 1: with not only the Hawks, but multiple other NBA franchises
Speaker 1: to create voting centers inside of NBA arenas to stop
Speaker 1: voter suppression. And that's not voter suppression of any one
Speaker 1: particular group. That is well, I mean it is, but
Speaker 1: it's for everyone to use. It is for what everyone
Speaker 1: to use. It's not like certain groups are kept out
Speaker 1: of those voting centers. That is not a political move.
Speaker 1: That is a patriotic move. Play again.
Speaker 3: And he was the same guy who said when he
Speaker 3: was back in Sweden talking about the same things because
Speaker 3: his last name wasn't a certain last name, that he
Speaker 3: felt like it was some racism going on when he
Speaker 3: was out in the pitch, Right he did say that?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I thought he was. I thought he said that.
Speaker 1: A pause is Lebron going directly at Slaton's head because
Speaker 1: it appears that he is. He is calling him out
Speaker 1: on his bullshit. And what you don't see because you're
Speaker 1: listening to a podcast, is that on this video, which
Speaker 1: you can see, Marty because you're playing the clip, he
Speaker 1: has a perfectly centered smirk on his face while he's
Speaker 1: sitting shirt off looking ripped as fuck. Just did he
Speaker 1: say that? Because I think he said that. I was
Speaker 1: pretty sure he said that. Keep going.
Speaker 3: I'll speak from a very educated mind. So I'm kind
Speaker 3: of the wrong guy to actually go at because.
Speaker 1: I do my homework. I'm kind of the wrong guy
Speaker 1: to go ass Laton because not only do I do
Speaker 1: my homework, I complete the tests, I even teach the
Speaker 1: lessons and I put my money where my goddamn mouth is.
Speaker 1: Did he pull out receipts faster? What? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Is that true? What did Laton actually say, Marty?
Speaker 1: What was what was Lebron referencing?
Speaker 2: Okay, here's the full quote. Because they the media still
Speaker 2: attacks me because they cannot accept that I am Abrahimovitch.
Speaker 2: If another Swedish player would do the same mistake I do,
Speaker 2: they would defend them, But when it comes to me,
Speaker 2: they do not defend me. This is about racism. I
Speaker 2: don't say there is racism, but I say there is
Speaker 2: undercover racism. This exists. I am one hundred percent sure
Speaker 2: because they am not Anderson or Svenson. If I would
Speaker 2: be that, trust me, they would defend me, even if
Speaker 2: I would rob a bank. But they're not defending me
Speaker 2: in the way that they should.
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like Latana is talking about soccer. It
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he's staying in his lane about what
Speaker 1: he's good at. Seems to me that Latana is talking
Speaker 1: about race and racism exactly what he's saying. Lebron should
Speaker 1: not be talking about in a different country that he
Speaker 1: is not a part of and is not fully aware
Speaker 1: of the dynamics in And guess what, By the way,
Speaker 1: as an aside, do you know Marty who's Latan's hero?
Speaker 2: Is no no idea.
Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali is his hero. I think consensus is that
Speaker 1: Mohammad Ali is the most political athlete who has ever lived.
Speaker 1: I fucking hate hypocrisy so goddamn much. I was in
Speaker 1: LA when the Galaxy and anounce that they had signed Laton.
Speaker 1: I know that he's great, and I know he says
Speaker 1: a lot of stupid shit too.
Speaker 2: When he took out the full page ad oh God welcome.
Speaker 1: Yes, when you say the kinds of things that Laton says,
Speaker 1: maybe it's you that should stick to just talking about
Speaker 1: your sport. Maybe for the folks who have other interests,
Speaker 1: are educated on other topics and want to make an
Speaker 1: impact outside of the game, they can talk about other things.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just Use Laton that needs to follow your
Speaker 1: own goddamn advice, because an articulate, educated, intelligent man should
Speaker 1: be able to talk about other things than just what
Speaker 1: he does for a living, especially when it gets people
Speaker 1: to get an ownership percentage of a new team, especially
Speaker 1: when more people are able to vote as a as
Speaker 1: a result, and especially when hundreds of kids end up
Speaker 1: going to college because he decided to fight for them.
Speaker 1: So maybe, as Use Laton wh be quiet this league.
Speaker 1: Here's what we know. The Spurs are shopping, and they're
Speaker 1: not shopping to buy. It appears they're shopping to sell.
Speaker 1: Spurs are fifth in the West, but it looks like
Speaker 1: they're moving. Maybe they're two best players in LaMarcus Aldridge
Speaker 1: and Jama Derosen. That doesn't make sense, does it to me?
Speaker 1: Does it make sense to you?
Speaker 2: Aldridge? Maybe? DeRozan, No, he's playing pretty well.
Speaker 1: Aldrich does make sense because he's coming off the bench.
Speaker 1: But really, what are you gonna be able to get
Speaker 1: for him? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? No? In ms return?
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty million dollars a year, and it's like, I
Speaker 1: don't want that player. Uh So it doesn't make sense
Speaker 1: at first glance, but when you look closer, it kind
Speaker 1: of does. DeRozan and Audridge both on expiring contracts. Damar's
Speaker 1: making twenty eight million and Audridge is making twenty one
Speaker 1: and it appears Listen, I don't know what's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: but it appears that neither guy is going to get
Speaker 1: a deal done to re sign, and instead of losing
Speaker 1: them for nothing, they the Spurs look like they're trying
Speaker 1: to move forty nine million dollars off the books right
Speaker 1: this second, which says possibly maybe they're also a buyer.
Speaker 1: They have forty nine million dollars in a media cat
Speaker 1: space the West. Who knows how open. It really is.
Speaker 1: Utah's running away a couple of LA teams. Who knows
Speaker 1: anything can happen. Just ask the Denver Nuggets, right, if
Speaker 1: they don't trade them now, they will lose them for
Speaker 1: sure for nothing Tomorrow is valuable. LaMarcus is not valuable.
Speaker 1: He probably won't receive another contract outside the minimum after this.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be like a Hassan white Side, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: go to like a place like Sacramento, chill out at
Speaker 1: one point, make one point six million dollars a year
Speaker 1: after his massively inflated contract that the Spurs took on.
Speaker 1: And so as good as the Spurs can play, I
Speaker 1: think that they have to know to a degree they're
Speaker 1: not gonna win the championship this year, right, Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean no, yeah, no, not even worth talking about.
Speaker 1: They're the best team exactly right, the best team nobody
Speaker 1: is watching, no one. But they're also pretty fucking hot.
Speaker 1: They've won twelve out of their last sixteen. DeRozan is
Speaker 1: averaging twenty five and seven. Audredge has missed ten games
Speaker 1: this year with an injured hip. He's averaging fourteen five
Speaker 1: and two. So it's an interesting balance, right, Because fans
Speaker 1: are excited. They're like, Oh, it's the first time in
Speaker 1: years we're gonna go to the playoffs. Boom.
Speaker 2: They got that new Fiesta court design.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I love that. And the incentive is
Speaker 1: at this point just to hold on to players with
Speaker 1: expiring contracts, even if it's not the right move for
Speaker 1: them long term, because who knows how far we can go.
Speaker 1: We can't win, but who knows how far we can go.
Speaker 1: That's exciting for fan base that has been down, down bad.
Speaker 1: So in addition to people now talking about the Spurs
Speaker 1: being sellers, there's awesome rumors that they might be interested
Speaker 1: in Poorzingis. Did you hear that? Have you heard that? No?
Speaker 2: I have not heard this rumbling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that. The rumor is DeMar could be
Speaker 1: moved since he's rumored to have already turned down the
Speaker 1: extension with the Spurs. And I don't think Rcpuford is
Speaker 1: going to let DeMar Derosen walk for nothing. He might
Speaker 1: let LaMarcus Aldrige walk for nothing because you're not gonna
Speaker 1: get much back. And they appear to be interested in Porzingis,
Speaker 1: who the MAVs now have also are shopping on the
Speaker 1: trading walk can you imagine for a second. I know
Speaker 1: Kristaps has been very injured, but my slightly optimistic mind
Speaker 1: wonders how good Kristaps Porzingis can be working every day
Speaker 1: with Tim Duncan I.
Speaker 2: Do kind of love that?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It could be a re emergence. He would work really
Speaker 1: well in pop system too, Yeah, immediately with like Dejonte Murray. However,
Speaker 1: the Spurs are not also rumored to have a great
Speaker 1: training staff. Ask why so, I'm not. I'm a little
Speaker 1: concerned about the long term health prospects, given that Perzingis
Speaker 1: is twenty five with as brittle as someone with like
Speaker 1: an eighty He's like an eighty five year old woman
Speaker 1: body wise, like just breaking down, random elbows and knees
Speaker 1: flying around. So I don't know what this means for
Speaker 1: the Spurs. It's kind of a weird season. It's kind
Speaker 1: of a lose lose situation. I don't know if they're
Speaker 1: gonna get a deal done with de Rosen. I think
Speaker 1: they want to keep them, but they can't keep them,
Speaker 1: so it's like, what do you do? It's like a standoff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so now.
Speaker 1: You've got what you've got? Is like, what if you
Speaker 1: trade de Rosen. You don't get anything back, but you
Speaker 1: only get picks. Now your playoff chances are shot. I
Speaker 1: mean you're really gonna fall off a cliff. Imagine playing
Speaker 1: the Lakers or Jazz or Clippers in the first round.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna get a cinery can't coon on three.
Speaker 1: So now what you've got is like a meek mild
Speaker 1: Spurs organization walking around like the NBA neighborhood with al
Speaker 1: Drodgen DeRos and in their shopping carts like, hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: are you interested in a shooting guard who doesn't like
Speaker 1: to shoot jumpers outside of fifteen feet but scores twenty
Speaker 1: a game. I mean, he does make twenty eight million
Speaker 1: a year, but you have his bird right sitting six
Speaker 1: months from now. You know that's good? Or maybe, hey,
Speaker 1: if you don't want him, maybe I can tempt you
Speaker 1: with a gimpy, thirty five year old power forward center
Speaker 1: who likes to shoot their three six time All Star broken,
Speaker 1: a little bit broken and hobbled, but he can come
Speaker 1: off the bench for you shoot a corner three. He
Speaker 1: does make twenty million a year. Don't listen to Zach
Speaker 1: Lowe when he says no one is high on Aldrodgen Derosen.
Speaker 1: These guys are priced to move. Folks all ust to say,
Speaker 1: this is much ado about nothing, this news story. These
Speaker 1: guys are staying put right.
Speaker 2: That seems like the most likely scenario.
Speaker 1: Good for Spurs fans, Good for the NBA fans in general,
Speaker 1: they haven't sniffed to play off in three years. Good
Speaker 1: for popping the franchise, I mean, but very sad for
Speaker 1: RCBU for who's gonna let two guys that get paid
Speaker 1: a lot of money walk for nothing in return and
Speaker 1: they're still going to get bounced in the first round regardless.
Speaker 1: So NBA purgatory. What a tough place to live. But
Speaker 1: it's part of the business, huh. I always try to
Speaker 1: get us different songs for the question segment.
Speaker 2: I like it well. Before we get into the DMS,
Speaker 2: I have a question for you. I saw Brandon Tierney
Speaker 2: tweet the following question, and I wondered what your reaction was.
Speaker 2: He wrote, all right, a legit question at his absolute apex,
Speaker 2: was Chris Bosh ever better than peak Julius Randall? I
Speaker 2: guess he means Julius Randall right now, and then he
Speaker 2: ended that with the answer is.
Speaker 1: No, Eh. Every time you see someone in the media
Speaker 1: say legit question off the top of their tweet. It
Speaker 1: is not a legit question because they know it's jokeville.
Speaker 1: Hence the reason they have to qualify it with I'm
Speaker 1: being dead ass serious because this is a joke hypothetical.
Speaker 1: Throw it out. Uh. Anybody actually thinking about this debate
Speaker 1: probably didn't watch Chris Bosh as a Toronto Raptor would
Speaker 1: you agree with that?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Or forget?
Speaker 2: Or forgot?
Speaker 1: Ye? Because Chris Bosh was a monster, monster in his
Speaker 1: because we're talking about Pete Chris Bosh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ANBA First Team All NBA.
Speaker 1: First Team player efficiency rating. Let's talk about that. In
Speaker 1: his prime, his player efficiency rating was only surpassed by
Speaker 1: This was right before he went to the heat, only
Speaker 1: surpassed by Kevin Durant, d Wade, and Lebron That's it.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's elite company, folks. That's the complete list.
Speaker 1: This guy had a true shooting percentage of sixty percent.
Speaker 1: As a man who was seven feet tall what six'
Speaker 1: eleven won The Shooting Skill game at The All Star
Speaker 1: game three years in a. Row, quickness HIGH basketbayq could
Speaker 1: play lockdown d at his, size could switch, everything had
Speaker 1: an insane postgame could pass eleven Time All? Star how many?
Speaker 1: Games how Many All stars Has Julius randold?
Speaker 2: Made, one which is ten less Than Chris? Bosh? Yeah. One,
Speaker 2: also he Was ALL nba Second. Team he wasn't first.
Speaker 2: Team that was a mistake on my.
Speaker 1: Bed So knicks fans are literally dancing in the streets
Speaker 1: Because Julius randall is pulling up them up from the
Speaker 1: depths of, hell And James dolan is the worst owner in,
Speaker 1: sports and so any bit of something they're clinging. To
Speaker 1: you are our, Messiah Julius. Randall you're better than anyone.
Speaker 1: Ever but come on, now can we just please keep
Speaker 1: things in their perspective and put some respect On Chris
Speaker 1: bosh's name because it's just it's. INEXPLICABLE i almost don't
Speaker 1: have words for. This the year that he formed a
Speaker 1: super team With brown And wade right before he went
Speaker 1: to The, heat which we will call his, prime we
Speaker 1: already talked about as a player efficiency, Rating bosh had
Speaker 1: a higher player efficiency rating choo shooting, percentage more wind,
Speaker 1: share better rebounding, percentage better blocking, percentage better turnover, percentage
Speaker 1: and average more points Than. Randall this. Year, Wow i'd
Speaker 1: say that's pretty. Damning he obviously redefined if you're not
Speaker 1: if you're like a young, millennial you don't know, This
Speaker 1: But Chris bosh redefined what it meant to be a
Speaker 1: big in THE. Nba if he was healthy right, now
Speaker 1: at thirty, six he might be better Than Julius.
Speaker 2: Randall right, now.
Speaker 1: That's a tough. Take it's. Debatable it's.
Speaker 2: Debatable, YEAH i Love Julius, randall but, YEAH i, mean
Speaker 2: he came into the league at a really important, time
Speaker 2: like kind of a crossroads for big, man and he
Speaker 2: just bridged the gap better than really almost, anyone just about.
Speaker 1: Anyone If Chris bosh was in his prime right, now
Speaker 1: he'd be averaging thirty and be a top player in THE.
Speaker 2: Nba, yeah, yeah, Yeah Prime bosh Like trio five year Old.
Speaker 1: Bosh, yeah twenty five year Old bosch in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one would be a mister. Killer THE nba is tailor
Speaker 1: made for his game right, now and he was a
Speaker 1: part of making it what it is right. Now so
Speaker 1: let's put it another way for fans who don't seem
Speaker 1: to get my, message would The knicks right now be
Speaker 1: better With Prime bosh than they are With Prime. Randall,
Speaker 1: yes Because bosh is who you guys thought and salivated
Speaker 1: all over Christaps. Porzingis he's a better version of what
Speaker 1: you Hoped Kristaps porzingis would be what you thought was
Speaker 1: going to reinvigorate and turn Your french is a. Round
Speaker 1: Would Julius randall be on anyone's super team? Ever would
Speaker 1: you ever form A big three Including Julius? Randall the
Speaker 1: answer is. No is there ANY espn special focusing on
Speaker 1: Where Julius randall is going to go in free? Agency
Speaker 1: the answer is also. No please put some respect On
Speaker 1: Chris bosh's.
Speaker 2: Name, yeah, No. GLAD i got your response on that. One,
Speaker 2: Okay so next, up we have what's the worst signing
Speaker 2: your team has ever made in YOUR nba? Career it
Speaker 2: was a.
Speaker 1: Good, question SO i would say it's not one. Signing
Speaker 1: it was one. Year do you remember when THE mvpa
Speaker 1: basically strong armed THE nba to not smoothing the salary
Speaker 1: cap curve and it just spiked up? Randomly sixteen the
Speaker 1: year That Kevin durant got to go to The warriors
Speaker 1: in a fleecing because it was one opportunity where the
Speaker 1: cap had spiked up like. Crazy so it's going to go.
Speaker 1: Down twenty sixteen is going to go down as maybe
Speaker 1: one of the worst free agent signings for any team.
Speaker 2: Ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why well we had With Portland. Trailblazers it was
Speaker 1: the worst for. Us salary cat spiked and we Got
Speaker 1: Meyers leonard for forty one million, Dollars Alan krabb four,
Speaker 1: years seventy five million. Dollars do you even does any
Speaker 1: casual fan even know these? Players Evan turner not in
Speaker 1: the league right. Now he is a coach for The Boston.
Speaker 1: Celtics four, years seventy million. Dollars let me do a
Speaker 1: little quick math for you. Folks, Leonard crab And Turner
Speaker 1: Costa blazers one hundred and eighty six million dollars in
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen of dead. Money just that was five years
Speaker 1: ago and we were stuck. Stuck crab And turner not
Speaker 1: even in the league right. Now that tells you how
Speaker 1: bad those signings. Were that was maybe the worst signing
Speaker 1: The blazers have ever. Had they call that the year
Speaker 1: of The. Albatro they say That blazer gms That neil
Speaker 1: o'sha has a little twenty sixteen post it note on his, Refrigerator,
Speaker 1: like remember remember twenty, sixteen how bad that? Was how
Speaker 1: long that took you to come out Of and you
Speaker 1: have to, say how incredible was it that that, team
Speaker 1: that team Without alan krap because we traded his, ass
Speaker 1: that that team With Evan turner And Meyers leonard and
Speaker 1: Those albatross. Contracts, somehow some way we went to The
Speaker 1: Western conference. Finals how is that? Possible that's. Insane let's
Speaker 1: talk About Evan turner for a. Second Evan turner averaged
Speaker 1: ten and a half, points four point nine, rebounds and
Speaker 1: four point four assists when he played In, boston and
Speaker 1: he averaged eighteen In. Philly so The blazers gave him
Speaker 1: four years and seventy million. Dollars by the, way we
Speaker 1: struck out On Hassan whiteside couldn't get, him could not
Speaker 1: Get Chandler, parsons struck out on. Him so we Chose
Speaker 1: Evan turner as, like, well we got all this, money
Speaker 1: we got all this, money we gotta spend. It.
Speaker 2: Boston boston media has been hyping him.
Speaker 1: Up boston media's been talking about how good of a
Speaker 1: team guy is for the. Culture Fuck boston. Media So
Speaker 1: blazers gave him four years and seventy knowing that he
Speaker 1: couldn't shoot three point shots as a, wing WHICH, i
Speaker 1: as you, Know marty absolutely, hate not knowing how they
Speaker 1: were gonna, fit how he was gonna fit into the.
Speaker 1: Offense and you know what he averaged FOR us eight
Speaker 1: four and three seventy million dollars for eight four and
Speaker 1: three twenty five minutes a game for, That AND i
Speaker 1: tell you, What Thank, God Evan turner had the best
Speaker 1: game seven of his entire career against The Denver nuggets
Speaker 1: when we, won because we could ship his terrible contract
Speaker 1: out the door With Meyers leonard the very second that
Speaker 1: we possibly. Could so twenty sixteen's got to be the.
Speaker 1: Worst gotta.
Speaker 2: Be, Okay next, UP i think this might be the
Speaker 2: last one. Too we've got what's your your personal favorite
Speaker 2: slash TOP nba moment of your childhood or.
Speaker 1: LIFE i think this kind of goes back to WHAT
Speaker 1: i was just. Saying the twenty nineteen was that the
Speaker 1: year of twenty. Nineteen, Yeah. Trailblazers we Had, dame we HAD,
Speaker 1: Cj we picked Up. Hoodie hoodie was like a broken.
Speaker 1: Man he had been With lebron In. Cleveland didn't really
Speaker 1: know his. Role and he even said That Damian lillard
Speaker 1: shepherded him and like he was his like baby. Calf
Speaker 1: he like fed him milk and took him to the
Speaker 1: gym every day and like was a mentor to. Him
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden hood turns back in to
Speaker 1: this real wing. Player for. Us we had an undersized
Speaker 1: four and Mo. Hearkless we Had Meyers leonard who was.
Speaker 1: Ugh we Had Zach collins who was a Rookie Yusuf
Speaker 1: nurkic goes down with like one of the most freak
Speaker 1: leg Injuries i've ever, seen, grotesque like A Gordon hayward.
Speaker 1: Esque we had Al farukaminu who was like sometimes he
Speaker 1: could shoot and make twelve threes in a, game and
Speaker 1: sometimes he would go zero for, Thirty like that was
Speaker 1: chief for. You and it was just all. Chemistry they
Speaker 1: all loved each, other, right SO i knew as this
Speaker 1: team went on like they could possibly they had a
Speaker 1: chip on their, shoulder. Right everybody said this team couldn't do.
Speaker 1: Shit we Played Oklahoma city in the first, round and everybody,
Speaker 1: said even though we were a higher, seed The Oklahoma
Speaker 1: city was gonna take us, out just like The New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Pelicans did they make quick work out of? Us right?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah and then and, then oh my, god The Dame
Speaker 1: lillard crossover, iconic Bye Bye bye Send. Home who AND
Speaker 1: i knew at that point we were. HOT i was
Speaker 1: In nashville at that time when the bye bye bye thing. Happened,
Speaker 1: yeah AND i was working in THE nfl, draft AND
Speaker 1: i would walk around to everybody bye bye bye, bye
Speaker 1: just like insufferable as A trailblazers, fan just. Awful so
Speaker 1: THEN i go on a. TRIP i go To, bali
Speaker 1: where it's like fifteen hours ahead Of portland, time And
Speaker 1: game seven rolls. Around we're playing The nuggets and we're
Speaker 1: down like seventeen in game, seven and it's three Am bali,
Speaker 1: time AND i have no interest in watching My blazers
Speaker 1: die a slow death in game. Seven BUT i had
Speaker 1: been watching every game. LIVE i have a LITTLE, vpn
Speaker 1: was rocking, it watching my phone streaming WHEREVER i. Was,
Speaker 1: yeah and Then i'm, like, Well i'm not gonna watch
Speaker 1: this at three. Am this is exact exactly How blazer
Speaker 1: games always. End we play great for six games and
Speaker 1: then we shit the, bed go, home try again the next, year,
Speaker 1: Right SO i fall back, asleep and THEN i HEAR
Speaker 1: cj for three and The blazers take the, lead And
Speaker 1: i'm like, What SO i wake up And Evan turner's Ballin'
Speaker 1: CJ's Balin' dame's ice, cold but everybody else is doing.
Speaker 1: Everything it's, like oh my, God, yes could we possibly
Speaker 1: Move Evan? Turner yes we. Can this is the time he's.
Speaker 1: Gone he's this boy's. Gone even if we don't, win
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna look At Evan turner And Meyers leonard and be, like,
Speaker 1: oh he's so. Great they're so. Great they didn't watch
Speaker 1: all the Like tuesday night games when they went like
Speaker 1: one for, Seventeen oh my. God and then another part
Speaker 1: WAS i got back From bali AND i was a
Speaker 1: going to a wedding In, portland SO i got a.
Speaker 1: Credential SO i grow up In, portland been going to,
Speaker 1: Games blazer games my whole, life AND i get to
Speaker 1: cover The Western Conference finals in my. HOMETOWN i showed
Speaker 1: up at like four. Pm game with tip was at.
Speaker 1: SEVEN i just wanted to like be, there, RIGHT i
Speaker 1: just want to like stand on the, court just be,
Speaker 1: there like soaking it all. Up and THEN i saw
Speaker 1: everyone along the way on my path to, MEDIA i
Speaker 1: saw the sid For Portland, state who was the first
Speaker 1: sports information director for my very very first gig in
Speaker 1: media WHEN i was a sideline. Reporter he was there working.
Speaker 1: Stats my radio broadcasting teacher from high. School he was
Speaker 1: there working THE pa like it was just and they
Speaker 1: had put up the poster Of dame inside the tunnel
Speaker 1: with the bye bye. Bye they had already done it
Speaker 1: only two. Weeks it was just like plastered, everywhere AND
Speaker 1: i got a little misty. EYED i was, like oh my,
Speaker 1: God i've come so. Far oh, yeah we got we got.
Speaker 1: Swept but it Was game three and it's okay BECAUSE
Speaker 1: i got to enjoy. THAT i got to stand on
Speaker 1: the court as a. Fan and it's tough to be
Speaker 1: a fan of your own team and work the game
Speaker 1: because then you're, like you're on the edge of your
Speaker 1: seat and you want to be like, ah but you
Speaker 1: can't because there's no cheering in the press box and
Speaker 1: he's like sitting there on the edge of your. Seat
Speaker 1: iconic twenty Nineteen, Blazers oh my, god what was your favorite?
Speaker 2: Moment, ooh let's. See, uh probably in twenty, ten AFTER i,
Speaker 2: mean we had battled with The spurs like basically the
Speaker 2: entire two, thousands and they had always gotten the better of.
Speaker 2: Us and then in twenty ten we played them in
Speaker 2: the second round after we Beat portland actually in the
Speaker 2: first round With Brandon roy and we go and Sweep
Speaker 2: San antonio to go to The West. Finals that draggag
Speaker 2: game in game three where he scored like twenty five
Speaker 2: in the in the. FOURTH i think that one was pretty.
Speaker 2: Special getting it back against The spurs was pretty.
Speaker 1: Awesome, yeah rivalry games and you can finally come back
Speaker 1: after your. Arrivals, yep it's something. Else it'd be like
Speaker 1: If portland swept The lakers after after the two, thousand you,
Speaker 1: Know Western Conference. Finals, incredible and this.
Speaker 2: Was and this was still LIKE i mean LIKE i
Speaker 2: don't want to say, prime but it was still Like
Speaker 2: Parker mont who duncan AND i.
Speaker 1: Would say that's still.
Speaker 2: Prime, yeah, Ish. Yeah we just went in and steamrolled
Speaker 2: and it was.
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