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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the forty Niners. You've got Male Podcast

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Speaker 1: sponsored by Manscape. The off season edition, our first one

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Speaker 1: of the off season, and this one is a little

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Speaker 1: different than what you normally here in the regular season

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Speaker 1: because we have a really special guest on this one.

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited about this, forty Niners Director of Pro

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Speaker 1: Personnel Ran Carthon Ram. First things first, UM, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners Podcast. I don't think I don't think

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Speaker 1: we've ever had you on a podcast. I know we

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Speaker 1: had you on our Meet the Scout series, but this

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Speaker 1: is kind of exciting. This is like almost groundbreaking to

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Speaker 1: have you here. Yeah, I feel like I'm actually somebody,

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Speaker 1: like I made it. I may have to get my

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Speaker 1: entire family to listen to this. You invited me to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm glad to be here. We are excited

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Speaker 1: to have you the more of the marrier being that

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Speaker 1: You've got Male Podcast. We have some fan questions, we

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Speaker 1: have questions to get to know you and your role,

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Speaker 1: but that's what I kind of want to start off with.

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Speaker 1: Director of Pro Personnel, you just finished out your fourth

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Speaker 1: season with the forty Niners. In your role for the

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Speaker 1: everyday fan can you break that down for us. What

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Speaker 1: is your role in tail with the team. UM So,

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Speaker 1: like you said, director of pro personnel, UH so, my myself,

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Speaker 1: R J. Gillen, UH, Sally Clavel, Fred Gammick, and Crowley Handling.

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Speaker 1: We're in charge of the day to day maintenance of

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Speaker 1: of our roster. The daily waiver wire UM that we

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Speaker 1: that comes out. We get this email from the league

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Speaker 1: every day UM that lets us know which players have

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Speaker 1: been cut, which players have been picked up, UM, and

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Speaker 1: things like that. So we managed that UM in our

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Speaker 1: database for a day to day UH purposes knowing who's

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Speaker 1: available UM and who do we need to make forty niners.

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Speaker 1: We're also UM manage the free agency portion UM, which

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Speaker 1: is the season we're in now. We spend most of

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Speaker 1: the season looking at players who will be free agents

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Speaker 1: and how they fit with forty to be a forty niner.

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Speaker 1: So we organized and exture that UM along with UM

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Speaker 1: our advance scouting reports. So we put together weekly scouting

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Speaker 1: reports of our upcoming opponents. We travel to games to

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Speaker 1: see those people play live. UM. From there we come back,

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Speaker 1: we meet with Kyle and the coaching staff on Monday

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Speaker 1: our team ready to play a game on Sunday. So

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Speaker 1: it sounds from from the beginning of what you're saying,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like this is one of the busiest times

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Speaker 1: of the year. But as you go on, it sounds

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Speaker 1: like this is a three d and sixty five day

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Speaker 1: year busy type of job. Do you have a slow

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Speaker 1: season or is it all year round for you guys? Well,

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Speaker 1: post draft it gets a little slower, um. And then

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Speaker 1: of course after O t S we get that break

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Speaker 1: um like everyone else. But even during that, you know,

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Speaker 1: the waiver wire still going, so we have to monitor

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Speaker 1: that from wherever we are. Um. You know, wherever your

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Speaker 1: monitored every day. So never really turns off. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: just you know, like I said, post draft is a

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Speaker 1: little bit slower and we can relax a little bit. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go back into into the history books

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But you were a former running back

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Speaker 1: NFL running back and fullback. Turn the NFL coach. I

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Speaker 1: want to know, how does your background, your knowledge, your

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Speaker 1: your role in pro personnel? Well, you know, like you said, Uh,

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Speaker 1: I played collegiately at the University of Florida. UH play

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Speaker 1: games that I actually played then where with the Coats. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, having a father that played in the NFL

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Speaker 1: definitely helped UM me get my start. UM And a

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Speaker 1: funny story, UM I get uh. I was able to

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Speaker 1: asked me, he says, do you know who that guy

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Speaker 1: your own name. But I saw it in that moment.

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Speaker 1: I saw the important stuff, you know, having a parent

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Speaker 1: look at some of these coaching trees and you see,

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Speaker 1: it it's front office work. And I think that's one

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Speaker 1: of the private examples what you just shared right there.

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Speaker 1: But when it comes to building a team, a lot

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Speaker 1: compiling a team's roster, but it's a lot of behind

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Speaker 1: scouting talent. You write, you wrote it down just a

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Speaker 1: little bit, but can you again just break down your team?

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Speaker 1: How many people are collectively a part of this scouting

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Speaker 1: Sally Clavel, Fred Gammis and Crowley Handling. We actually split

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Speaker 1: pretty big operation. UM. I like to refer to what

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Speaker 1: He said, it's the blood. What is it? The life blood,

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Speaker 1: the life blood, the life blood of the organization. Well,

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Speaker 1: you just broke down there are two different branch as.

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Speaker 1: You have your pro scouting, then you also have your

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Speaker 1: up UM. So that's another live view that we don't

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Speaker 1: gets that that chance. UM. I remember reading something UM

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Speaker 1: about Jerry Rees when he became the general manager for

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants. I remember reading his his bio

431
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Speaker 1: and he talked about the importance of being a black

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Speaker 1: GM and how important that was for him, UM, in

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Speaker 1: his role to do a really good job to open

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00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 1: the door, you know, for the next guy coming behind him.

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Speaker 1: And that's always been my approach, you know, since reading that, UM,

436
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 1: knowing that you know, as a I just I view

437
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: myself as a scout, you know, regardless of what the

438
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: title is, but being a you know, black scout in

439
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: this league, and specifically being a black former player that's

440
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: scouting in this league, it's always important for me to

441
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: be one of the best at what I'm doing and

442
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 1: represent my organization in the league in the right way. UM,

443
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 1: to show that there are more behind me, UM, and

444
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: show that you know that we are capable of doing

445
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: a good enough job so hopefully one day be running

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00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: an organization. I want to follow up on that. Uh,

447
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: You're one of the most well connected people that I

448
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: know from whether it's you playing your dad, you and

449
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: your career path. But I want to know who were

450
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: some of those black exects who not only had an

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00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 1: impact in your career, but maybe some of those that

452
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: really helped pave the way and left maybe a leaving

453
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: a mark in the NFL that you have witnessed over

454
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: the last few years. Well, I mean from a you know,

455
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: from a personnel side. Um, I'll start there. I mean

456
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: you you have to start with Ozzy Newsome, Um, you know,

457
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: being the first black general manager in the NFL history,

458
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: Um in two thousand one. Um, you have to let

459
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: that sink him for a minute. You know. So it's

460
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: only been twenty years, um since we named the first

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00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: black gym. Um, a guy like that with his resume,

462
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a Hall of Fame player as a

463
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: tight end, you know, with the Cleveland Browns. And to

464
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: think that this guy has gone on and had a

465
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career as an executive, you know, you

466
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Speaker 1: think in his first two draft picks, Uh, we're Jonathan

467
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: Ogden who's a Hall of Famer and Ray Lewis, who's

468
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. Like, it doesn't get any better

469
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: than that. Um, And then you've seen the sustained success

470
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: that Baltimore has had. So you have to start with him. Um,

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00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: you know, then you have UH, like I mentioned Jerry Reese.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Reese is UH two time Super Bowl winning UM

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Speaker 1: general manager in this league. He's another guy looked up

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Speaker 1: to UH for a while. UM. You know Martin Mayhew,

475
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: whom you mentioned earlier. UM. I always knew who Martin was,

476
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: UM because Martin and my father actually worked together in

477
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: Detroit for a year or two, So I knew who

478
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: Martin was. But the impact that he made on me

479
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: having worked under him for these last four years, you know,

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00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: Martin is UM is a great sounding board. He's wise, UM,

481
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: he's smart, you know, and he understands you know, the

482
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: inner workings of this league. So he's been a great resource. UM.

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00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: You know. And again a lot of my influence also

484
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: comes from you know, coaches around the league. You know, Uh,

485
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: not only my dad, but a guy like Keith Armstrong

486
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: who congrats to Keith. He's the special team's coordinator for

487
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, who just won the Super Bowl. But Keith

488
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: and I we worked together in Atlanta, and he taught me,

489
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: you know, the importance of you know, learning how to

490
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Speaker 1: Scout Special teams. Um, so he's been a mentor for me.

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00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: And they're you know, countless others, uh, guys who I'm

492
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: pretty sure they hear this, they'll be mad at me

493
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: and I'll get texts um that I didn't mention them.

494
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: But you know, those are the first guys that come

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Speaker 1: manscape dot com. I want to jump back to something

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00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: you said towards the top of this podcast, and you

501
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: said that you and your team, you know, you're always

502
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: moving forward. Being that you guys are always moving forward.

503
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: Do you guys ever get a chance to kind of

504
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: look back and maybe what you guys have done, what

505
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: talent that you've brought in, kind of just reflect on

506
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: on a season or maybe a series of years like

507
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 1: these last four years for you. Oh yeah, but it's brief,

508
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: you know, um for us to get here in seventeen

509
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: um and then play for a super Bowl, you know

510
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: last year, like that was the week of Super Bowl.

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00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: For me personally, it was very reflective, um, and being

512
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: able to um, you know, see our roster then and

513
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: to see where we were and you know we were,

514
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: you know, so close to completing the task. Um. You know.

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00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: But again it's about you know, always looking forward. Um.

516
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: You know there's a saying that you know, Um, that's

517
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: why the review mirror is smaller than the windshield, you know,

518
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: because what's behind you, it's it's done, and it's small

519
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: compared to what's ahead of you. So um, you know,

520
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: we have our moments within our department, and you know,

521
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: we're all competitive, so we keep score and we joke

522
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: with each other about players that we have liked and

523
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: you know, oh there's your guy. You know, oh your

524
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: guy stinks or you know, hey man, your guy's blowing up.

525
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: And it's always a you know, like a little friendly competition.

526
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: But you know, it's always about moving forward. Um. You know.

527
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: I just remember after after the Super Bowl, I got

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00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: back on the bus and you know it was one

529
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: of those like I was, you know, hurt, um, which

530
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure everyone else was, but my mind immediately

531
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: went to, Okay, how can we get better? You know,

532
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: what can I do in terms of my role to

533
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: help us, you know, put us in position hopefully m

534
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: complete the task next time. So UM, again you reflect,

535
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: you have those moments, and you know you you figure

536
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: out where you can grow and get better. Um, you

537
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: set your intentions and you just move forward. It's not

538
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: only the You've Got Male Podcast. We got Ran dropping

539
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: some gems on us about the rear view mirror and

540
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: it's not as big as the windshield. Some great analogies

541
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: right there that you can definitely apply. I like that,

542
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: all right, So it wouldn't be You've Got Male Podcast

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00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: if we didn't take fans admitted questions. So I've got

544
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: one from Jonathan Sandoval from from Citrus Heights, California. Jonathan asked,

545
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: despite the record and the uncontrollable factors of the forty

546
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: Niners had to deal with this past season in your eyes,

547
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: and I know that's why I asked you about moving

548
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: and forward, were there any bright spots that you think

549
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: that you and your team can look back on that

550
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: can also help carry this forty Niners team over into season. Well, first,

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00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: you know, thank you Jonathan for your question, Thank you

552
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: for supporting the podcast and our organization. Uh to answer

553
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,719
Speaker 1: your question. UM, I think, um, the one good thing

554
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: was that you know, obviously we had the injuries, we

555
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: had COVID, so a lot of extenuating circumstances. But I

556
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: think more than anything is um it a showed the

557
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: depth of our roster. Um, and it showed we got

558
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: we had a chance to get our young guys some

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00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: playing time, and guys who have not you know, played,

560
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: We've got guys playing time. So moving forward, UM, you know,

561
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: when when we get our roster built and we're entering games,

562
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: we should have a roster filled with players who have

563
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: significant experience, so in the event they're thrown into a role,

564
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: we can know what to expect and they will know

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00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: what to expect as well. Hmm, all right, Ran, As

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Speaker 1: we wrap this up, I want to appreciate you stopping

567
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: by and dropping some nuggets on us and giving us

568
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: a little insight, a peek behind the curtain to your

569
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: role in your team and what you guys do and

570
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: how important you guys are to the success of this team.

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00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: But I want to ask a random question for you

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00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: and and feel free you can you can maybe decline

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00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: if you want, but I would love to get your take,

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00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: just as a guy that's in house, a guy that

575
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: you know you're scouting this talent, talent coming to this team,

576
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: talent on other teams. But is there a player or

577
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: a position group? I'm opening it up for you that,

578
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: let's say you're excited to see in year. Are you

579
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: saying in terms of what across the NFL college what

580
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: what were we talking? I'm talking forty niners. We want

581
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: to know, forty niners. Is there a player or a

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Speaker 1: position group that you want to see healthy and taking

583
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: a stride forward that you're just genuinely doesn't have to

584
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: be a player that you scouted, just in general, something

585
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: you're just excited to see. Well. Um, so, like you mentioned,

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00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm a running back, so I'm always partial to the

587
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: running backs and UH coach Turner is is my guy

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00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: and UH love coach. You know, Bobby T gave me

589
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: his blessing that I'm one of the guys in the room.

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00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go go with the

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Speaker 1: running backs. Um, you just I mean, hey man, I

592
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: mean you know what this system is. Um, you can

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00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: go back, um you know to when UH coach Mike

594
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: was in Denver. You know, you can mention if you

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00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 1: can rattle off obviously, the Terrell Davis is, the Orlando Scary's,

596
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: the Ruben Drones is, uh, the Mike Anderson's, the Clinton

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00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: portis is like all these guys have been successful within

598
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 1: this scheme. You know, those guys that go to Houston

599
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: and then you get Arian Foster, you know, he becomes

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00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: a household name. And even a guy we had here

601
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: was with Kyle and Washington, Alfred Morris goes from a fifth,

602
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: sixth round pick to you know, a pro bowled player

603
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: within this scheme. So I'm just excited to see our

604
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: team as a whole get healthy, um, and then get

605
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: our back field back healthy and get those guys going again.

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00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: And just you know, just the excitement um of seeing

607
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: us break off big runs, man slashing and making big plays.

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00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: It's always fun to see, you know, Raheem finishing the

609
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: end zone, you know, surfing and you know, and my

610
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: man Jeff Wilson losing his mind in the end zone.

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00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: So always looking forward to see in the running backs play.

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00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: All right, now, you just made me think of another question.

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Speaker 1: How we're running back ran Carthon, How would he perform?

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Speaker 1: What what would his role be as a Kyle Shanahan

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00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: running back, how would he succeed in this type of system?

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Speaker 1: So funny story when I was coming out, Um, Coach Turner,

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Speaker 1: If if anyone knows Coach Turner, he's the most diligent

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00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: human and you know on Earth. Um. And so I

619
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: literally talked to Coach Turner every week before the draft process.

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00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: It was almost like we became friends. Like I expected

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Speaker 1: Bobby Tea's call. Um. You know. It was numerous times

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00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: I was with my then girlfriend who was not my wife,

623
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: and my phone would ring and she would look I

624
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: was at the coach from Denver. I'm like, yeah, you know,

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00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: I'll be right back, you know, a step out. Um.

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00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: You know. But being realistic, you know, obviously I thought

627
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: I was, you know, the best running back ever created. Um.

628
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Speaker 1: And it wasn't until I got to my first training

629
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Speaker 1: camp and I saw what a Hall of Famer looked

630
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: like in Edrin James, and I was like, yeah, I

631
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: can't do that. So so me in this system, I

632
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: think it would have fit my skill set, you know,

633
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: just one cut and go. But yeah, I mean Kyle

634
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: probably would have replaced me with a guy the next year,

635
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: so I probably would end up scouting for him. Anyway,

636
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Speaker 1: I admire your honesty. I appreciate it. Ran very last thing.

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00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: I know you did something really really special a couple

638
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: of years ago, and and this just came to top

639
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Speaker 1: of mind. Um. You wanted to make You wanted to

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Speaker 1: shine light on fathers who wanted to do really great

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Speaker 1: things for their family. And I know you had some

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Speaker 1: ties with the forty Niners organization being able to provide

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Speaker 1: for them. Can you give us just a little bit

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Speaker 1: of background of what it is that you were doing

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Speaker 1: and and and where is it at now? What's your goal?

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Speaker 1: What are you hoping to do in the future. So, UM,

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Speaker 1: I called it the Fatherhood Ticket program M, where we

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Speaker 1: asked kids to write in and tell us why their

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Speaker 1: dad deserves two tickets, a parking pass and two sideline

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Speaker 1: passes to a home game. So it actually started I

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Speaker 1: think around two thousand and ten, two thousand and eleven,

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Speaker 1: when I was with the Falcons. Um a really good

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Speaker 1: friend of mine, UM who's uh she has her own

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Speaker 1: your farm, Laton, your story. She helped me create it, UM,

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Speaker 1: and we started and it kind of just took off.

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Speaker 1: And so when I got here, uh, you know, with

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners. You know, I talked to John about it. UM.

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Speaker 1: You know, just something I wanted to give back to

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Speaker 1: the community here. So we started it uh last year UM,

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Speaker 1: and our community relations department has done a really good

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Speaker 1: job with helping me format it UM and you know,

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Speaker 1: we got it going. Last year was our first year.

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Speaker 1: I think we did uh. I think we did four giveaways. UM.

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Speaker 1: What we gave you know, deserving fathers those tickets and

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Speaker 1: sideline passes to a game. You know. Again, I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to bring you know, light to uh to positive

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Speaker 1: fatherhood in the community. UM. You know, you often hear

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Speaker 1: these stories of you know, kids growing up without a

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Speaker 1: dad and the home, but you never hear the successful

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Speaker 1: stories about the you know, the men who are active,

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Speaker 1: um in their kids life. So I just wanted to, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, create something on the shine of light on

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Speaker 1: those guys and let them know that they're UM, that

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Speaker 1: their presence and their efforts are are seeing and felt. UM.

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Speaker 1: And you know again, just wanted to pick them up

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Speaker 1: and uh let them know that they're appreciated. We appreciate you,

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Speaker 1: Ran karth On, not just for joining us on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: but for what you're doing uh in the community, highlighting

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Speaker 1: these father figures and the great things that they're doing.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate that. We appreciate you for stopping by. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate all the work that you're doing on the back end,

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Speaker 1: you know, the stuff that the fans don't necessarily get

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Speaker 1: to see. Thanks for giving us a peek inside of

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Speaker 1: your world. Uh looking forward to what's to come. We

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Speaker 1: got free agency and draft coming up, so I know

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Speaker 1: you're a busy, busy man, So thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for stopping by. We appreciate it. Hey man, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I made it, Mama, I made it

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Speaker 1: our podcast, you made it. Now,