1
00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,000
Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of it is the fans.

2
00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,840
Speaker 1: I will say that. I mean, it's just like, I

3
00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,040
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but it's just the atmosphere.

4
00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,320
Speaker 1: It's hard to really describe, like just coming down here

5
00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,039
Speaker 1: and playing in the stadium as an opposing team.

6
00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:13,600
Speaker 2: It's it's just a hard place to plan.

7
00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:19,079
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. Synchronize your watches, look

8
00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,200
Speaker 3: at your calendars. We are now inside of one month

9
00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:31,200
Speaker 3: until the twenty twenty six Annual Selection Meeting it's also

10
00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,920
Speaker 3: known as the NFL Draft. And welcome to another edition

11
00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,600
Speaker 3: of the best podcast Available, presented by Bullseye Event Group

12
00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,920
Speaker 3: for award winning game they experiences. Visit Bullseye event group

13
00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:47,159
Speaker 3: dot com. Happy Draft Month. I guess we're inside of

14
00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,120
Speaker 3: a month. Give a to you and yours. I can't

15
00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,120
Speaker 3: go with that until after April one. April one, I'm

16
00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,200
Speaker 3: officially in the month of the draft, so they know

17
00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,680
Speaker 3: we're inside a month. Yeah, April is the month of

18
00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,880
Speaker 3: the draft. There are remultiple ways, and I'm with you

19
00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,520
Speaker 3: to look at this. By the way, Hi, I'm Andrew

20
00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,720
Speaker 3: Sicili out of this. Jason Gibbs, thanks for being here.

21
00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,360
Speaker 3: So I woke up on Monday morning of this week,

22
00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,400
Speaker 3: tore up my bracket because my bracket was worthless, and

23
00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,600
Speaker 3: I turned on the social media and everything said it's

24
00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,560
Speaker 3: one month until the draft, and I'm like, wait a minute,

25
00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,119
Speaker 3: it is because the draft is on Thursday, April twenty

26
00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:30,039
Speaker 3: third in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. And this was Monday, March twenty third.

27
00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,119
Speaker 3: But the draft is on a Thursday. So when you

28
00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,600
Speaker 3: say it's one month into the draft, you could also

29
00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,360
Speaker 3: on the Thursday, four weeks before, say that's one month

30
00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,520
Speaker 3: exact the draft. Right. That's how I view one month

31
00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:46,840
Speaker 3: until the draft.

32
00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:54,320
Speaker 4: I still, let's get through March. We're wrapping down. This

33
00:01:54,400 --> 00:02:00,000
Speaker 4: is the end of the main free agency push, obviously,

34
00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,600
Speaker 4: so there'll still be plenty of signings throughout the league

35
00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,360
Speaker 4: as we go here, but the bulk of free agency

36
00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,000
Speaker 4: is almost in the rear view mirror.

37
00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:09,440
Speaker 3: We have the.

38
00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:15,519
Speaker 4: Owners meetings, coach meetings, GM meetings, anybody who's anybody will

39
00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:21,000
Speaker 4: be at the fantastic Biltmore Hotel in Arizona early next

40
00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,520
Speaker 4: week and then we're into April and then we're draft time.

41
00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, and we will continue to bring you the

42
00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,680
Speaker 3: best podcast available all the way up through and after

43
00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,560
Speaker 3: the draft as well, and we're excited to do that.

44
00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,960
Speaker 3: We're excited to also bring you Thailand Wallace, the Browns

45
00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,200
Speaker 3: new wide receiver, a former Baltimore Raven, a guy who

46
00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,639
Speaker 3: knows Todd Monkin from Baltimore. He will join the show

47
00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,840
Speaker 3: coming up in a matter of minutes. And you mentioned

48
00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,720
Speaker 3: the owners meetings. Technically, give a it's called the annual meeting.

49
00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,440
Speaker 3: We will have content from the annual meeting.

50
00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,520
Speaker 4: Where there are some fancy names for things. You started

51
00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,680
Speaker 4: off with the name for the raft.

52
00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,840
Speaker 3: It's called the Annual Selection Meeting.

53
00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:09,400
Speaker 4: You know what Sunday for me in March, that's not yeah.

54
00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,680
Speaker 3: And and the owners meetings, the league does push back.

55
00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,600
Speaker 3: They don't want them known as the owners meetings. This

56
00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,360
Speaker 3: is the annual meeting. And when there's a meeting, say

57
00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:23,880
Speaker 3: in season owners meetings in season on the network, you're

58
00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,560
Speaker 3: you're to refer to that as the fall meeting.

59
00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,919
Speaker 4: And I can understand the annual meeting because, like I said,

60
00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,560
Speaker 4: you know, Todd Mounkin will be there, there's a breakfast

61
00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:38,160
Speaker 4: with coaches, there's you know, GM talks. Andrew Berry will

62
00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,720
Speaker 4: talk to the media informally and formally.

63
00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,119
Speaker 3: Son will be there.

64
00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,320
Speaker 4: The ownership, Yeah.

65
00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,800
Speaker 3: Ownership will speak, scheduled to speak, so all those things, yep,

66
00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,920
Speaker 3: and we'll have that content for you from Phoenix next week.

67
00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,960
Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the content right now. You

68
00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,240
Speaker 3: said free agency is wrapping up. Brown's made two special

69
00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,040
Speaker 3: team signings I think are significant here, one of which

70
00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,800
Speaker 3: Tyland Wallace we mentioned will join us comed up shortly.

71
00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,400
Speaker 3: The other is Daniel Thomas. He's a veteran safety, most

72
00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,360
Speaker 3: recently with the Lions. We spent a lot of time

73
00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:16,240
Speaker 3: last year lamenting the Browns special teams units. Obviously, Week

74
00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,200
Speaker 3: one I got a lot of headlines. Andre Schmidt missed

75
00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,720
Speaker 3: the two kicks and then turned it around and turned

76
00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,520
Speaker 3: into fantastic season, culminating with that game winning field goal

77
00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,680
Speaker 3: Week eighteen. Yes, and we're happy for him in Cincinnati

78
00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,360
Speaker 3: with that win over the Bengals. But coverage was certainly

79
00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,600
Speaker 3: an issue. Returning was certainly an issue. The Tyland Wallace

80
00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,440
Speaker 3: siding and the Daniel Thomas signing I think go a

81
00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:43,120
Speaker 3: long way towards trying to fix those issues. Annually, it

82
00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,400
Speaker 3: seems the Browns bring in a return man, it often

83
00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:53,760
Speaker 3: doesn't work. Tyland Wallace, I think the layman may look

84
00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,279
Speaker 3: at and go, oh, well, he's the returner. He's always

85
00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,120
Speaker 3: the Ravens fourth or fifth wide receiver. He has a

86
00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,640
Speaker 3: punt return touch down in his resume here in the NFL,

87
00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,760
Speaker 3: and I say yes, but no, he has had return success,

88
00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,359
Speaker 3: but he has not really been a return man gibe.

89
00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:14,120
Speaker 3: He has been a guy that has excelled on coverage units.

90
00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,800
Speaker 3: He has over a thousand career special teams snaps. And yes,

91
00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,080
Speaker 3: he does have some explosiveness in the return game, and

92
00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,480
Speaker 3: he could be your fourth and fifth wide receiver hoping

93
00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,400
Speaker 3: to get a little bit more of a bite of

94
00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:26,360
Speaker 3: that apple as well.

95
00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, this football team has been snake bitten when it

96
00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,599
Speaker 4: comes to signing free agent returnment who have a track

97
00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:39,480
Speaker 4: record of performing and then freak injuries. I don't even

98
00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,359
Speaker 4: want to go down in training camp. I'm not going

99
00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,080
Speaker 4: to jinx in a go down the list. No, no, no, no, no, no.

100
00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,760
Speaker 4: We don't need to revisit it. But you know, it's

101
00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,160
Speaker 4: been unfortunate for both a player and for the franchise

102
00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,400
Speaker 4: because probably Josh Cribbs is the last person that struck

103
00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,320
Speaker 4: fear in any team when it comes to a return.

104
00:05:58,480 --> 00:05:59,320
Speaker 3: He was musty team.

105
00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't think that we've had that in

106
00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,440
Speaker 4: quite a long time. If we're talking about him being

107
00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,400
Speaker 4: the last real relevant returner.

108
00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,120
Speaker 3: Now, to be fair, he was more than just a

109
00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,279
Speaker 3: relevant returner. Josh Cribbs, and you could go look at

110
00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,040
Speaker 3: the stats, go to Pro Football Reference is one of

111
00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:23,000
Speaker 3: the most prolific returnment in the history of this game period,

112
00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,720
Speaker 3: full stop. So it's a high bar. And before him,

113
00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,240
Speaker 3: he had Eric Metcalf obviously back in the good old days.

114
00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,839
Speaker 3: So the Browns have had their legendary returnment. That is

115
00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,320
Speaker 3: a very high bar to meat. You just would love

116
00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,280
Speaker 3: to get kind of one third of the way there.

117
00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,240
Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, And that's we've seen flashes from guys over

118
00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,359
Speaker 4: the years. And here's hoping that you know, the gentleman

119
00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,200
Speaker 4: that's going to join you in a little bit, mister

120
00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,440
Speaker 4: Wallace is a guy that can maybe provide a little

121
00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:57,280
Speaker 4: punch for that special team's return group. I think we

122
00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,920
Speaker 4: talkt about Josh Cribbs as a returner, but Josh crib

123
00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,960
Speaker 4: Bibbs could cover kicks and punts absolutely and do it

124
00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:09,960
Speaker 4: exceptionally well. And that's you mentioned it. It's not just

125
00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,840
Speaker 4: the return game that has struggled for this franchise. It's

126
00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,520
Speaker 4: been the coverage unit and we don't have to revisit

127
00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,000
Speaker 4: the Jets game from last year.

128
00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,720
Speaker 3: We did that last week with Quincy Williams. That's right.

129
00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,160
Speaker 4: I think it's one of those situations where the special

130
00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,200
Speaker 4: teams unit needed an overhaul. And I think that there's

131
00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,040
Speaker 4: a number of reasons why special teams struggled last year,

132
00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:37,120
Speaker 4: but I think having designated special teams players, guys that

133
00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:42,280
Speaker 4: excelled that that really thrive in special teams play, We're

134
00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,680
Speaker 4: not prevalent on this football team a year ago, and

135
00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,640
Speaker 4: I think there's been a concerted effort this offseason to

136
00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,800
Speaker 4: bring in a couple guys to help out in that aspect.

137
00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and really special teams I think has been the

138
00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,120
Speaker 3: focus of the past week. It's not just Tylan Wallace

139
00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,400
Speaker 3: and Daniel Thomas. I don't remember if we got the

140
00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,080
Speaker 3: Corey Bojorqez signing in when we last week's episode, but

141
00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,880
Speaker 3: it should be no to the Corey Bojorkez, who many

142
00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,960
Speaker 3: people thought honestly was out the door. Corey is back.

143
00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,040
Speaker 3: It's a one year deal. It's great to have him back,

144
00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,840
Speaker 3: just on and off the field. Obviously, Nathan sat down

145
00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,160
Speaker 3: with him last week. Loved that interview he was on CBD.

146
00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,200
Speaker 3: Loved the guy. There are a lot of factors last year.

147
00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:25,320
Speaker 3: I think that went in to Corey Bjorkeez perhaps not

148
00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,080
Speaker 3: having statistically his best season. Hopefully you can, and we

149
00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,280
Speaker 3: talked about coverage here, clean some of that stuff up

150
00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,320
Speaker 3: and he can get back to the guy who two

151
00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,080
Speaker 3: years previous was one of the best in the NFL,

152
00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,080
Speaker 3: not only an a booming punts but be doubting them

153
00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,599
Speaker 3: inside both the twenty and the ten yard line. So

154
00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,040
Speaker 3: happy for Corey, and they have a baby, another one

155
00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,280
Speaker 3: coming soon. So happy for the entire behorches. I would

156
00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,920
Speaker 3: say any day now, any day now, Yeah, as we

157
00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,960
Speaker 3: sit here recording this on a Tuesday. A couple of

158
00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,600
Speaker 3: other key special team signings, Trey Avery and di'angelo Ross

159
00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,280
Speaker 3: are two corners. They're veteran corners. Browns picked up in

160
00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,920
Speaker 3: season last year because they needed help on special teams,

161
00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,040
Speaker 3: guys that at times later in the year were pressed

162
00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,160
Speaker 3: on to the field and they were needed defensively and

163
00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:17,120
Speaker 3: took some meaningful defensive snaps, but were primarily teams guys.

164
00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,959
Speaker 3: So they both resigned as well. They provide veteran depth

165
00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,160
Speaker 3: in the cornerback room, and they, assuming they're there come

166
00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,480
Speaker 3: week one, provide core special teams value. So if you

167
00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:33,360
Speaker 3: look Tylan Wallace, Daniel Thomas, D'Angelo, Ross, Trey Avery, and

168
00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,240
Speaker 3: even to a degree, Sam Kamara, although he's a rotational piece,

169
00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,880
Speaker 3: can play both inside and outside on that defensive line,

170
00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,160
Speaker 3: primarily inside. Those guys all as we get to the

171
00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,560
Speaker 3: second and even maybe now the third wave of free agency,

172
00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,800
Speaker 3: provide core teams value. And we're going to beat the

173
00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:58,160
Speaker 3: dead horse here. It is an essential part of this game.

174
00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,160
Speaker 3: Games were won and lost on primary lost. Let's just

175
00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,880
Speaker 3: call it like it is. Last year on special teams.

176
00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,080
Speaker 3: You cannot as as much hand ringing as we have

177
00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:12,679
Speaker 3: done this offseason over the defensive coordinator position. You cannot.

178
00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,079
Speaker 3: You cannot overemphasize the role special teams played last year

179
00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,920
Speaker 3: in the win loss record.

180
00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,040
Speaker 4: It's thirty three percent of your team. You're good at

181
00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,280
Speaker 4: mass I well, public school kid. Once in a while,

182
00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,160
Speaker 4: I get one right right here, it's thirty three percent,

183
00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,040
Speaker 4: and I don't care. You can come back and go

184
00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,200
Speaker 4: it's really twenty percent. And like the other thirteen percent

185
00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,040
Speaker 4: should go to offense and all that all three phases

186
00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,680
Speaker 4: like there's a reason why Gerard Cherry calls it complimentary football.

187
00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,880
Speaker 4: All three phases have to perform for you to win

188
00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,480
Speaker 4: on a Sunday in the National Football And.

189
00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,400
Speaker 3: Jerrod and that's why I love having him on a sideline.

190
00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,560
Speaker 3: Obviously for a number of reasons. But last year we

191
00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,160
Speaker 3: could go down. I mean, look, every year, every game

192
00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,840
Speaker 3: go down to Gerard and his special team's analysis because

193
00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,920
Speaker 3: it's how he made his bones in his career, especially

194
00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:06,320
Speaker 3: later in his career, is invaluable. What makes a good

195
00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,679
Speaker 3: special teams player? Yeah, it's a lineman, assignment and effort,

196
00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,560
Speaker 3: all of that, but a lot of it is just effort.

197
00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,880
Speaker 3: As Gerard said repeatedly last year. You know what I'm

198
00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,640
Speaker 3: gonna ask Tylan Wallas what makes a good special teams player?

199
00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,240
Speaker 3: Coming up shortly, mamud Diabodi was also a good special

200
00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,160
Speaker 3: teams player. Let's get to him, because that one was

201
00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,280
Speaker 3: a bit surprising. The Browns chows not to tender him,

202
00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,720
Speaker 3: meaning you can walk away without any free agent compensation.

203
00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,760
Speaker 3: Had to be fair. The Browns would have not necessarily

204
00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,120
Speaker 3: gotten some massive free agent compensation if Mood left, and

205
00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,960
Speaker 3: he did. He signed on with the Tennessee Titans. But

206
00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,800
Speaker 3: they get nothing because they did not tender him. It

207
00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,600
Speaker 3: also leaves a bit of a hole. We mentioned Quincy Williams.

208
00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,760
Speaker 3: He signed, He takes Devin Bush's spot there. The Browns

209
00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:58,199
Speaker 3: really are lacking right now, just in core depth in

210
00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,680
Speaker 3: the special teams group. Now, we got a couple of

211
00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,959
Speaker 3: guys who showed some promise in twenty twenty four, coming

212
00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,080
Speaker 3: back hopefully better than ever from injury, and that is

213
00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:11,600
Speaker 3: Winston Reid. Winston a bigger pardon Reid and Bookie Watson.

214
00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,319
Speaker 3: We never saw him last year they were both injured.

215
00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:19,840
Speaker 3: But logic dictates that you need to add more. Now

216
00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,320
Speaker 3: we're not through the offseason, friends, there is another wave

217
00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:28,040
Speaker 3: of free agency. There is an NFL draft, which is significant.

218
00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,800
Speaker 3: With the thirty third overall pick last year, you found

219
00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,920
Speaker 3: a pretty good linebacker. And even though you don't think

220
00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,920
Speaker 3: the Browns mego offense at six and twenty four, you

221
00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,000
Speaker 3: never know. So the puzzle is still very much being constructed.

222
00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,280
Speaker 3: But if you had to play a game today, which

223
00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:49,120
Speaker 3: full stop you don't Easton Mascarenus Arnold, who is a

224
00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,440
Speaker 3: key special teams contributor as a kid out of USC

225
00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,120
Speaker 3: last year, would be on the field in all likelihood

226
00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,200
Speaker 3: with that first team defense.

227
00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked a little bit about it. On Monday's

228
00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,200
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns Daily. We had Jason Tarbor to our linebacker.

229
00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,440
Speaker 3: Coaches stem a Gate to start the show. Jason Tarvor

230
00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,600
Speaker 3: kicked off the week with I mean Nathan's enthusiasm. He

231
00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,480
Speaker 3: couldn't even get the name of the show out. He

232
00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,480
Speaker 3: was like that, here's Jason Tarvor. That's right, That's exactly right.

233
00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:16,280
Speaker 3: Might have been.

234
00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,760
Speaker 4: He also was excited for vacation, but he was also

235
00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:23,320
Speaker 4: excited for Jason Tarbor. Coach Tarver's got his got his

236
00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,640
Speaker 4: work cutout for him. I mean, this is a position

237
00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,439
Speaker 4: group that I think going into the offseason we thought

238
00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,400
Speaker 4: was in a good spot and now, yeah, I mean

239
00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,160
Speaker 4: that's you've got some new faces and you're probably gonna

240
00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,959
Speaker 4: need a few more new faces you're going to Yeah,

241
00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:45,600
Speaker 4: and that's I'm surprised they didn't tender Diabat for whatever reason.

242
00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,319
Speaker 4: And that's I'm not the GM and I don't make

243
00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,360
Speaker 4: those decisions. But I think that was a little surprising

244
00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,400
Speaker 4: given how well he had played, especially on special teams.

245
00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,959
Speaker 4: But maybe you needed a little bit of a facelift

246
00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,439
Speaker 4: in that area and that's they wanted to go in

247
00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,080
Speaker 4: a different direction, and you know, I don't know the reason,

248
00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,000
Speaker 4: but we have to replace my mood Diabatte now. And

249
00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,880
Speaker 4: you know, that's just another another spot on a defense

250
00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,679
Speaker 4: that you thought you weren't going to have to do

251
00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,440
Speaker 4: a lot of work with in the off season that

252
00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,760
Speaker 4: all of a sudden you've had to replace some guys here,

253
00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,040
Speaker 4: and now that's taken away from the you know, the

254
00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,360
Speaker 4: salary cap situation on the offensive side of the football.

255
00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,280
Speaker 3: Absolutely defensively, MJ. Emerson is still out there. I know

256
00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,520
Speaker 3: Nathan's pound of the table for him. I will as

257
00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,040
Speaker 3: well say now, you know, you may get some pushback

258
00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,240
Speaker 3: from Browns fan saying, hey, when last I saw him

259
00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,240
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, he was not having a good year. No,

260
00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,760
Speaker 3: he wasn't and he admits that and it's part of

261
00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,760
Speaker 3: what makes his injury last year so heartbreaking. If you

262
00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,440
Speaker 3: guys want to go back to that day in July,

263
00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,880
Speaker 3: MJ had been on the podium earlier that afternoon and

264
00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,480
Speaker 3: he really opened up about the mental health struggle of

265
00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,160
Speaker 3: having a difficult season in twenty twenty four and how

266
00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,000
Speaker 3: he works so hard of the offseason, put that behind

267
00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,800
Speaker 3: and be a better hymn both on and off the field.

268
00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,200
Speaker 3: And there was a twinkle in his eye, and then

269
00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,440
Speaker 3: there was like a positive outlook and just extreme optimism

270
00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,360
Speaker 3: for the year to come. And then later that day

271
00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,000
Speaker 3: he went out and he tore his achilles. He was

272
00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,320
Speaker 3: back in the building pretty quickly rehabbing fighting. He was

273
00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,960
Speaker 3: around last year and all of us, fingers crossed, were

274
00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,200
Speaker 3: hoping he'd be back, not saying it's not going to happen.

275
00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,240
Speaker 3: It could still happen until he signed somewhere else. I

276
00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,240
Speaker 3: have reason to be optimistic that it could happen because

277
00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,200
Speaker 3: I think and listen, coming back from an achilles is

278
00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,560
Speaker 3: never easy for a corner. It is especially difficult, all

279
00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:43,600
Speaker 3: the cutting and the back pedaling. It's not easy. He's

280
00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,440
Speaker 3: got a battle to come back. But I believe in

281
00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,120
Speaker 3: the player, but more importantly, I believe in mj Emerson.

282
00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,080
Speaker 3: So fingers crossed. If not, you're likely going to add

283
00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,360
Speaker 3: another veteran corner somewhere. And I want fans to remember

284
00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:04,360
Speaker 3: and this is always listen, we're not playing fantasy. We

285
00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,600
Speaker 3: want to stack our roster right now. The first game

286
00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,040
Speaker 3: isn't until September. There will be veterans that come free

287
00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,680
Speaker 3: after June one, There will be veterans that come free

288
00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:21,400
Speaker 3: in training camp. There can be other acquisitions, other means

289
00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,920
Speaker 3: to stack your roster just because you're looking at linebacker

290
00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,240
Speaker 3: or corner right now and going we need help. Okay, fine, yeah,

291
00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,600
Speaker 3: wide receiver, yep, I get it. The offseason still has

292
00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:35,920
Speaker 3: a lot of time. Yeah.

293
00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,520
Speaker 4: Well yeah, you ultimately, I think want six or seven

294
00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,720
Speaker 4: corners on your roster to get through the year, to

295
00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,960
Speaker 4: get through everything. And I think you know Trey Avery

296
00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:52,000
Speaker 4: and D'Angelo Ross. You know, those are bodies that can

297
00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,480
Speaker 4: add things, not just on defense but on special teams.

298
00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,800
Speaker 4: So you have that, But then you also have the

299
00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,480
Speaker 4: play of Tyson Campbell who went out and had to

300
00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,240
Speaker 4: get And now where does MJ. Emerson fit with Tyson

301
00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,120
Speaker 4: Campbell and Denzel Ward?

302
00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:14,119
Speaker 3: You can play outside, yeah, but I understand that Miles

303
00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:19,879
Speaker 3: Harden is coming back as well. Yeah, MJ's not a

304
00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:24,119
Speaker 3: good fit to play inside. No, I get that he isn't.

305
00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,199
Speaker 3: So your priority may be slot as opposed outside. You

306
00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,560
Speaker 3: need more than two outside corners, you do you simply

307
00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,480
Speaker 3: do the way this game is played, the way the

308
00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,640
Speaker 3: Bengals are going to play this game the way. Who

309
00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,320
Speaker 3: knows what the Ravens are going to look like this year.

310
00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,280
Speaker 3: Obviously you need more than two. We'll see what happens.

311
00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,639
Speaker 3: The off season is still quite young and the draft

312
00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,320
Speaker 3: is a month away. We'll get into six and twenty

313
00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,320
Speaker 3: four coming up at a second, but for now, let's

314
00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:58,400
Speaker 3: introduce you to a new face in that wide receiver room.

315
00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,160
Speaker 3: We're going to keep this thing going here with new

316
00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,560
Speaker 3: Browns on BPA. We've had on Titus Howard, we had

317
00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,840
Speaker 3: on Quincy Williams, welcoming now to the show. He's a

318
00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,439
Speaker 3: wide receiver, he's a returner, he's a man who does everything.

319
00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,160
Speaker 3: He is the newest Brown and he is live with us,

320
00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,639
Speaker 3: live on tape. What does it matter, it's a podcast.

321
00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,480
Speaker 3: Tylan Wallace, how the heck are you? Man?

322
00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,400
Speaker 2: That's Sarah. I'm very good to be here.

323
00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,280
Speaker 3: How's how's it feel going Baltimore to Cleveland? This isn't

324
00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,840
Speaker 3: like going Baltimore to Denver, all right, Baltimore to Arizona.

325
00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,240
Speaker 3: It's Baltimore Cleveland, man.

326
00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, keeping it in the conference.

327
00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,960
Speaker 1: So no, I feel good about being here, though I

328
00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,320
Speaker 1: know some people don't feel the same, but I'm happy

329
00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:37,720
Speaker 1: to be here.

330
00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,920
Speaker 3: Wait a minute. Who doesn't feel the same.

331
00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,440
Speaker 2: A couple of Baltimore fans. But you know, it's all right, it,

332
00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:44,040
Speaker 2: we'll be all right.

333
00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,920
Speaker 3: Have they been blowing up your mentions.

334
00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:47,800
Speaker 2: A little bit?

335
00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,520
Speaker 1: Maybe this a little bit, but a lot of most

336
00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,040
Speaker 1: of them positive. So I'll say that a lot of

337
00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:51,800
Speaker 1: them are positive.

338
00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,720
Speaker 3: Okay. So I'll ask you the same thing I asked

339
00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:01,360
Speaker 3: Coach Monk, and same thing I asked Travis Sweitzer. What

340
00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,440
Speaker 3: are you doing with all your Ravens gear?

341
00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,359
Speaker 2: That's a great one. I'm gonna keep it for later

342
00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:08,160
Speaker 2: on down the road.

343
00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,800
Speaker 1: You know, when I'm you know, done playing everything, I'll

344
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,720
Speaker 1: still have it, and you know, I'll keep it in

345
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:13,720
Speaker 1: the in swords for now.

346
00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,000
Speaker 3: Okay, that's that's a good answer. You're not just like

347
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,080
Speaker 3: dropping it out on the curb and waiting for the

348
00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 3: Monday pickup. You're not doing that.

349
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,800
Speaker 2: No, definitely not. I can't do that. I can't do that.

350
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,880
Speaker 3: Let's talk about Coach Monk. How much of an influence

351
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,200
Speaker 3: was he in your decision?

352
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,919
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh a big I mean obviously big influence. Being

353
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:30,440
Speaker 2: there with Monk.

354
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,959
Speaker 1: You know, I love being there with him, and how

355
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,199
Speaker 1: he ran the offense and just how he helped himself

356
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 1: just as a coach, and how he treated everybody in

357
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,360
Speaker 1: the in the building and not only just the players.

358
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,840
Speaker 1: So you know, it was great to be around Monk

359
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 1: and it was a big, you know, part of my

360
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 1: decision process.

361
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 2: But to come here.

362
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,959
Speaker 3: We've we've seen him obviously, we've talked to him. He's

363
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,639
Speaker 3: done the poet and he's done the interviews, he's been

364
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:56,000
Speaker 3: the man around town. What's he like in a meeting room?

365
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 3: Like when he's the O scene Now he said coach obviously,

366
00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:59,800
Speaker 3: but when he's the O scene, he's up there in

367
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:00,960
Speaker 3: front the room, what's he like?

368
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,719
Speaker 2: He's great? I mean, he's he's a personality. I'll give

369
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 2: him that.

370
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,680
Speaker 1: He's definitely a what do you call a big personality guy.

371
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 1: But definitely love Monk Man, Love being around him, just

372
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 1: love the way he holds himself.

373
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 2: And he's just something you got experience of being a

374
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 2: meeting room with that guy.

375
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 3: Does he call you out? Does he call you up?

376
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 3: Is he the teacher that like makes you stand up

377
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 3: and recite your homework, like like what are we doing?

378
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 1: He's had those moments for sure where he's one of those,

379
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,880
Speaker 1: I guess teachers that make you stand up and say,

380
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 1: make you stand on your word.

381
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 2: I guess you would say.

382
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:34,679
Speaker 3: So.

383
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 2: He's one of those, but it's good for everybody.

384
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 3: I think when he does that in a good way,

385
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,679
Speaker 3: it's kind of like a good natured get in your face.

386
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 3: He's not a screamer. He's a I might make fun

387
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,640
Speaker 3: of you like you lie on the.

388
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 1: Right track here, exactly, exactly, Yeah, definitely, definitely all in

389
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 1: a good way.

390
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 2: For sure.

391
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 3: You scored a touchdown last year, Week two against the

392
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 3: Browns in September. If I told you that day that

393
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 3: you'd be warning the other uniform playing against the Ravens

394
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 3: next here, what would you have thought.

395
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have thought. There was no chance I would

396
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:04,479
Speaker 2: have ever thought about that.

397
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 1: But you know, it's it's crazy how everything ends up

398
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: coming full circled.

399
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm really happy to be here.

400
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,679
Speaker 3: I was going down a rabbit hole last time on

401
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 3: the internet. There's some Ravens content where it pointed out

402
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 3: how you earlier in the game had gone in motion

403
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 3: dugout Devin Bush and kind of set that whole thing up.

404
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 3: Take me through that.

405
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, So going into that game plan that we kind

406
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: of had that set up where like you said, bringing

407
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 1: that same motion in going, you know, block linebacker and

408
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 1: then play later he's I guess you know, Monk and

409
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: Monk being Monk doals it up, calls the same play

410
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 1: but calls a pass off of it. I end up

411
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: coming open the back of the end zone and the

412
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: marthos it to me.

413
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 3: Four tis though, how do you and I'm sure, I'm

414
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 3: sure this is part of the conversation, but I don't

415
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 3: want to put words in your mouth and assume you

416
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 3: had a thousand special teams play over the years, but

417
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 3: you also had that touchdown, You had the eighty four

418
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 3: yarder against the Bengals, which Ravens fans, you know, still

419
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 3: talk about to this day. How do you, whether it's

420
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 3: a slot, a Z whatever, Thailand get on the field

421
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 3: more on offense.

422
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: I think it's just take advantage of the opportunities.

423
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,719
Speaker 1: I feel like that's kind of been my thing that

424
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 1: I've always taken pride in ever since I've been playing.

425
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 1: Was no matter when I'm on the field, how often

426
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 1: we're on the field, whenever I am on the field,

427
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 1: is to take advantage of whatever opportunities I do get.

428
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 3: Does it get annoying sometimes when people say, oh, he's

429
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 3: a great special teams players, a core special teams guy,

430
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 3: which is important. It's very important. We know that it

431
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 3: is important. Yeah, and I'm guessing part of you wants

432
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 3: to be like, hey, like turn on my college tape, man,

433
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 3: like I I lit it up.

434
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 2: You're right, right, Yeah, for sure, you know what I mean.

435
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: I think obviously, I think in this league that's what

436
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: everybody looks forward to have that recognition as their role,

437
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: as if it's a receiver, linebacker, safety, you know what

438
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean.

439
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 2: You want that recognition as that position that you play.

440
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: But also, like I said, a lot of pride in

441
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: playing special teams you know what I mean. So, no

442
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: matter what it is, I just want to be known

443
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 1: as a great football player. I'll take that any day.

444
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 3: What makes bear with me here, we'll get back to

445
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 3: the offense. What makes a great special teams player?

446
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: Though, Thailand, I think it's Ah, if you ask me,

447
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,719
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of it is just an effort.

448
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a lot of effort and unselfishness.

449
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: You got to be willing to run down there, and

450
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you got try to block, bring und

451
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: and pound linement at times if you have to, you

452
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean, just being able to be unselfish

453
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: and block guys and just make plays that you know

454
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: normally don't call for, especially for me at the receiver position.

455
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: You know, we're not normally used to making tackles or

456
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 1: doing things like that. So I think just having that

457
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 1: part of unselfishness and effort.

458
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 3: See, that's the thing when people say you're a corese

459
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 3: special teams guy, which again can be a compliment. It's

460
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 3: definitely a compliment. People think that, well, you know, you're

461
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: just that return guy, you're the wide receiver. You're not

462
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 3: necessarily that's not always been part of your game. Matter

463
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 3: of fact, when you ran the pump back against the Browns,

464
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, the Rams in twenty twenty three, that was

465
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 3: your very first game ever returning a punt in the NFL.

466
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, that's right, yes, sir.

467
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 3: And that wasn't just like, hey, he ran a punt

468
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 3: back in the first quarter. I mean that was a

469
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 3: game deciding play.

470
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Yeah, it was. It was crazy how that

471
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: all even happened.

472
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: Like, you know, I've been the you know, I was

473
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 1: a backup apart returner for the longest obviously, and then

474
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: played before that are starting turn to Denver Duverneer got hurt.

475
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: So they were like, all right, Toy, you gotta you know,

476
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: it's overtime. You gotta go catch his punt. And I

477
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: was like, and at the time, you know, he had

478
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: a little rain, little drizzlm and everything, so it wasn't

479
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: like perfect conditions either, but I just knew one the

480
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: main thing I had to do was just go back.

481
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 2: There and catch it.

482
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: I said, I can as long as I can do that,

483
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 1: you know, I can let Lamar do his thing.

484
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 2: But I guess you know, he never got the chance to.

485
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 3: Did we get just you and you talking here? Because

486
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 3: I got some friends who are Rams fans. You think

487
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 3: Charlie Kohler block Ja Hummel in the back.

488
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: That's so funny, you say, right, because they talk about

489
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: they talk about that non sop.

490
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 2: You know that that.

491
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: Year after that, Jake Humble came over to us and he, oh,

492
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 1: he tells him about that every day.

493
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 3: Every day we were there. It was hilarious, true story

494
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 3: out And and they're boys too, those two guys like

495
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 3: for you back at home. So I was watching that

496
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 3: play full disclosure of Tiland. I'm watching that play as

497
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: it happened, and I yelled blocking the back and I'm

498
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 3: waiting for the flag, waiting for the flag, waiting for

499
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 3: the flag, and they just you know, there's you celebrating

500
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 3: with your guys in the end zone. They cut away

501
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 3: to the crowd. The crowd's going nuts. I'm like, I

502
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 3: guess they're not throwing that flag.

503
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: Yep, I was. I was very happy they didn't for sure.

504
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,479
Speaker 3: So what's it been like playing at Huntington bank Field

505
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 3: over the years when when you come there? Last year

506
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 3: Srea game down of the wire? Obviously should doors got

507
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: a shot at the end? Yes years past you had Jamis,

508
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: you know, throw the touchdown pass late to win it.

509
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: What are your what are your thoughts your memories on

510
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 3: the building.

511
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 2: So the craziest thing obviously me at the Ravens like

512
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: playing here.

513
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: We haven't had super great memories playing here, but you know,

514
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: I've always enjoyed the atmosphere here.

515
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: You know, I mean it's it's real different.

516
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a it's it's a harder place

517
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: to play in then people I think try to than

518
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: what they would say, But.

519
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: You know, I'd love the atmosphere here. The crowd when

520
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: they show up.

521
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's really just an atmosphere that I'm like, Okay,

522
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: I can I can rock with this.

523
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 3: It's it's been a point of frustration too for the

524
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: Ravens over the years a little bit. Why do you

525
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 3: think it is other than is it just the fans, like,

526
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 3: because the Steelers obviously haven't had success recently in Cleveland either.

527
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: I think I think a lot of it is the fans.

528
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 2: I will say that.

529
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like, I don't know what it is,

530
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: but it's just the the atmosphere. It's hard to really describe,

531
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: like just coming down here and playing in this stadium

532
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: as an opposing team, it's it's just a hard place

533
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: to plan.

534
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 3: Well, now you're going to be part of that atmosphere.

535
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 3: You have a number you met with Corey at uh. Yeah.

536
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: I think we're still working on it.

537
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: We had the talks about possibly number fifteen, but we're

538
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: still has some things out to make sure.

539
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 3: Okay, So Isaiah Bond's got sixteen, you've worn sixteen. Remind

540
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: me what you were in college?

541
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: Two?

542
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 3: Two? Yeah, Okay, does fifteen feel right if it is fifteen?

543
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: Okay? For sure? For sure?

544
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 3: All right, I want to tell a little bit of

545
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: your backstory here before we get you out of here.

546
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: Those who don't know you have an identical twin, right,

547
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: like identical like can people tell you and tracing a

548
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 3: part if you're both in the same room.

549
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: I think now now they can, just for the fact

550
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: that we have different haircuts and things like that.

551
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: Now, But back and then, I don't think so.

552
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 3: No, And you guys were like these amazing recruits played together.

553
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: He was a quarterback, your world wide receiver. He had

554
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 3: a couple of bad knee injuries in high school. You

555
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 3: guys both went to Oklahoma State together, and then he

556
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 3: had another injury and he had to shut it down.

557
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 3: But he's now in coaching. He was at Oklahoma State.

558
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: Now he has moved on. The butler tell me about

559
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: his career, and I look, I have to assume identical twins.

560
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 3: You guys are like this, do you feel at times

561
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 3: like you're playing for him?

562
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: Always? Always?

563
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: I mean that was always a go and once he

564
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: you know, went through what he went through and he

565
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: obviously couldn't play anymore.

566
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: I think that was always part of my motivation.

567
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: Why I kept going and why I kept playing was

568
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: to play for him, and you know, kind of play

569
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: for both of us. Yeah, him, Terren's ACL two times

570
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: in high school, one time in college. Obviously he had

571
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: to take the coaching route, and you know, I know

572
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: that wasn't easy for him. So I always try to

573
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: anytime I step on the field, always try to make

574
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: sure I'm putting my best foot forward for the both

575
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: of us.

576
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: How good could he have been?

577
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: I think, honestly, he would have been right up here

578
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: with me if you ask me. I mean, I think

579
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: if you turn on a high school tape, I mean,

580
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: this shows it all. I mean, he had all the

581
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: time that I did, and I think without the injuries,

582
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: he'd be in the same position I'm in right now.

583
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: Does he call you up because he's coaching wide receivers too, Yeah?

584
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: Does he call you up and break down your film

585
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: on Sunday night?

586
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: So he does sometimes. So Yeah, if you see something

587
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: on TV, he sees it.

588
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: He'll he'll call me up and be like, hey, you

589
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: know I saw this, or you know what I mean,

590
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: what were you thinking on this?

591
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: Or things like that.

592
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: Or I'll even send him sometimes like some practice tape

593
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: and he'll trying to coach me up through things.

594
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: On what he sees and what he would have said

595
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: or something like that.

596
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: So you never you never hit him back and go, dude,

597
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 3: you're a quarterback, like, stop it. I know what I'm doing. No,

598
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: I try.

599
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: I try to make him you know, yeah, I know

600
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: he knows he's talking about So I'll let him have it.

601
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: I'll take the coaching points.

602
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: That's cool, Tyland. We appreciate your time. I know you're

603
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: kissing babies and shaking hands today. Welcome to Northeast Ohio.

604
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: Can't wait to see it back out there on the field.

605
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: Were in an orange helmet this time, regardless of which

606
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: number we settle on.

607
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: Welcome to this here man, Thank you, I appreciate you.

608
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: Looking forward to it.

609
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: Tylan Wallace, nice guy and uh kibbe. He and I

610
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 3: both had this epiphany as he was sitting down that

611
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 3: when he was coming out of college, I interviewed him

612
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 3: on NFL Network, same setup. I don't know that I've

613
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: ever met the guy. I'm on one camera, he's on

614
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: another camera, different rooms, different states, whatever. He's like, ah,

615
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: I remember you, yeah.

616
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I hope it all works out like that's

617
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 4: for the team, for him, for everyone involved.

618
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 3: Want him. Want him to be successful, absolutely, and he

619
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: does have some explosive in his bag. Go look at

620
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 3: that punt return. Go look, go look at the play

621
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 3: against the Bengals where he broke free down the sideline.

622
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 3: And yes, he caught the Week two touchdown last year

623
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 3: in Baltimore against the Browns. All right, gibbe, Hey, we

624
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 3: got some mailbag questions we knew, all right, you want

625
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: me to you want me to ask you or you

626
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 3: ask you? Oh god, okay, here we go. Buckle up.

627
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: Browns have six and twenty four as we sit here

628
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: today in round number one. Do they give a pick

629
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 3: two wide receivers on Thursday April twenty third. No. I

630
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: would like them too, but probably not. I think you.

631
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 4: I personally would go wide receiver at six because maybe

632
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 4: the guy I want that I think will fall to

633
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 4: twenty four might not fall. So if you love a

634
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 4: guy and he's a wide receiver, take him at six

635
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 4: and alleviate the problem. And if you go offensive lineman

636
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 4: at twenty four, I'm fine with that as well.

637
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 3: Okay. So this is called the best pod available, best

638
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: podcast available. Obviously it's a play on best player available,

639
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: and that is what you have to do you have

640
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: to take the best player available. And I have said

641
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: repeatedly that the difference between the wide receiver you can

642
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 3: get at six and twenty four is far greater than

643
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 3: the difference I'm sorry is the difference between the O

644
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: ligneman you could get at twenty four as compared to

645
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: six is far different than the wide receiver you can

646
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: get in twenty four as compared to six. Easier said,

647
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 3: there is far more depth at wide receiver in this

648
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 3: draft than there is an offensive line. There's going to

649
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: be a run on offensive lineman early. There could be

650
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 3: a run of wide receivers early as well. If you

651
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 3: want an offensive lineman, I think you have to take

652
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 3: them at six. Doesn't mean the Browns can't turn into

653
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: one oh seven later and get a good offensive lineman.

654
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: It turns into a long term striter, of course you can.

655
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: But in terms of blue chip quality guys, you may

656
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: see ten, you might see a dozen wide receivers taken

657
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 3: in the first two rounds. There are that many wide receivers.

658
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: Now you keep hearing, well, there's no Jamar Chase in

659
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: this draft. No, there isn't. In all likelihood there probably

660
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: is not, But there is depth in the wide receiver class.

661
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 3: So just I want you guys to keep that in

662
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: mind when you don't want an offensive lineman at six.

663
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 4: If I told you, guy, I'm fine with that. I

664
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 4: totally understand. I just if you get to number six

665
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 4: and on your on Anderberry's big board, not position by position,

666
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 4: but on the big board, the wide receivers higher than

667
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 4: any of the offensive linemen that are left, go get him.

668
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 3: If he's the best player. I'm with you, go get him. Go.

669
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 3: By the way, Ohio State Pro Day coming up on Wednesday,

670
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: as we record this on Tuesday, so we'll have some

671
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: thoughts on that coming up in next week's episode. It

672
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: is officially Pro Day season. Rubin Bain on Monday did

673
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 3: not have his arms measured. If you're concerned it is

674
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 3: silly season, it is Pro Day season. Could any team

675
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: be looking to trade up at pick six? Give depending

676
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 3: on how the board falls. I know what I think?

677
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: What do you think? I don't think so I think

678
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 3: the answer is yes. Actually, oh, so he'll know.

679
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 4: I don't feel good about a trade partner today. As

680
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 4: mid okay, midweek.

681
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 3: Here's what the Browns need. The Browns need Jeremiah Love

682
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: to fall to six Browns fans, that is what you

683
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: should be rooting for. Have Jeremiah Love fall to six.

684
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: Why but then we're moving back. I like that. Hold on,

685
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: there is nothing wrong with moving back, just an itsy

686
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: bitsy bit if. Okay, there is panic from the teams

687
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 3: below you that Jeremiah Love may be taken by somebody else,

688
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: whether that is Washington right behind you, whether that's New

689
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: Orleans or Kansas City or whomever. Oh I know New

690
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 3: Orleans and Kansas City went out and signed a back

691
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 3: and spent money in free agency. I know that, and

692
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 3: that was a bit disheartening. I did not want Travis

693
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 3: Hn to go to New Orleans. I did not want

694
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker to go to Kansas City. Wanted those teams

695
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: to be in prime. We need a running back mode.

696
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 3: Neither is. But if you look at those deals in reality,

697
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: those are two your guarantees. If you think Jeremiah Love

698
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: is the best player on the board, and there are

699
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: people that have Jeremiah Love as the best player in

700
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 3: this draft period, full stop, you want him to fall

701
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: to six. I know you're looking at me going I

702
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 3: don't want to trade back. Okay, fine, but what if?

703
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 3: What if Hypothetically, say Washington's convinced that someone's trying to

704
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 3: get up ahead of them to six to the brown spot,

705
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 3: and Washington will flip you three or four to go

706
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: back one spot when you know they're taking Jeremiah Love

707
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: go ahead. That's free money. That third or fourth round

708
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: pick is a starter that fills out your roster for nothing.

709
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: I I'm fine if you're gonna move back, if you

710
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 4: stay in the top ten. Oh yeah, I don't want

711
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 4: to move out of the top I don't want to

712
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 4: go down.

713
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 3: I don't want to move out of the top ten.

714
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: Now hold on, No, would you move out of the

715
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 3: top ten for next year's one? Yeah, but no one's

716
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: giving you. No one's gonna give you next year's one.

717
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: Exactly give it. You pass the test, thank you, thank you.

718
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 4: No one's giving up ones in twenty twenty seven. That

719
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 4: is every year's draft. There's my prediction. There's my prediction.

720
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 3: Nobody will give up a one this entire draft in

721
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven. I'm gonna throw a caveat in there.

722
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: The only caveat is if it's like the Seahawks, someone

723
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: like that, where they have this uber confidence or the

724
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 3: rams for that matter, though highly unlikely with Stafford's quarterback thing,

725
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: with Stafford's contract hanging out there like a team that

726
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: is absolutely all in for this year and thinks that

727
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: that one is going to be thirty thirty one or

728
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 3: thirty two. It's the only way, the only way that's right. Okay, gentlemen,

729
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 3: that's been another edition and ladies for that matter. Of

730
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 3: the best podcast available for is that of my bulls

731
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 3: Eye event group for award winning game day experiences. Visit

732
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: bothseievent group dot com. Give me any final thoughts.

733
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 4: Get your sunscreen ready, buddy. I know, I know you

734
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 4: live on the beach now already, but yeah, you're going

735
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 4: to Phoenix.

736
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: I don't live on the beach. To that on the beach,

737
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 3: it's God off with you. I spend my off season

738
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 3: in a town that has beach, that has a beach nearby.

739
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 4: That's I didn't say, okay, but I watch you take

740
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 4: a walk on the beach. But yet I would tell you, like,

741
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 4: bring the sunscreen.

742
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 3: Okay.

743
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 4: I think Phoenix that the desert sun and heat a

744
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 4: little bit, a little bit rougher than the southern California.

745
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: And you know why it's so hot there? Tell me

746
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: chase the water and now need a drink. On that

747
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 3: note all, we will be back with another episode next

748
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 3: week with insight and content from the Annual Meeting and

749
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: the aforementioned Phoenix Arizona for Jason Gibbs and Andrew Siciliado.

750
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: So long, everybody,