00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests, Your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:47 Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said no gifts. I'm bridgerd Wineinger. And look, we're in a whole new year. It's twenty twenty one, and truly, who knows what'll happen next? No one can say. For who knows it all happen to me? Who knows it all happen to this podcast? Maybe it'll become a podcast about motorcycles. There's really no telling at this point. But that doesn't really matter right now. Right now, we need to focus on the guests. The first guest of the brand new year, Paul Sheer, Welcome to. I said no gifts. 00:01:20 Speaker 3: I am so excited to be here. And I know you said no gifts, but I couldn't help myself. I couldn't help but get you something, just a little something, Paul, what's going on? Not much? You know, this new year, Still same pandemic, you know, loving my house, really getting familiar with my closet desk space. I will tell you this much, and I will share this with you. I haven't really talked about this publicly, but I have been kicked out of our home office. 00:01:52 Speaker 2: My wife were off to a devastating start. 00:01:54 Speaker 3: My wife very slowly was like, this is a shared space, and bit by bit, drawers were being taken over. Time in the office was being extended. And now I am sequestered in the guest bedroom. Oh you're kidding me, Yeah, the guest bedroom. And by the way, that sounds like, oh wow, that well, you should be so lucky. I get it. But I'm also in that room all the time, and it is that's where I'm at. I'm so I spend my time mainly taking care of my children, right and sharing my office with a king sized bed because we decided we wanted to make our guests as comfortable as possible, which is something that I think you would appreciate. 00:02:34 Speaker 2: Of course, if we don't respect the guests, we don't respect ourselves. 00:02:39 Speaker 3: But it's I'm basically constantly trying to maneuver my body around a bed. It is, and I'm like, it's almost like I've set up shop in a hostel. I'm like, it doesn't really, It's like my we work is a hostel. No. 00:02:54 Speaker 2: I The guest bedroom, to me is an interesting part of the house. We just moved into new place. We have a guest bedroom. You want it to be comfortable, but also you don't ultimately don't care. So the guest bedroom is an interesting second space that the It's a hard thing for me. The line to walk is like, I want it to be comfortable, but I also don't want it to be better than the room that I stay in. Mainly I need the guests to realize that I am still the king of the castle. 00:03:22 Speaker 3: Well, look, I can't agree with you more. I mean, honestly, I have issues with unused spaces. I grew up in a house with a lot of unused spaces. We had a beautiful, beautiful, fancy dining room, living room situation. They had a nice carpet in it growing up. And by the way, not that the carpet is the sign of you know, wall to wall carpet, but back in the eighties it was kind of cool. We had a nice big table in there, and it was where we put our Christmas tree at Christmas time, and it was you know, We made sure we had to dust all the furniture. Everything was nice. We never sat in that room. We sat in the small room off to the right hand side of that that was tiny and looking over we basically are looking over at a better room, and that better room is like laughing at us, like look at us, look at what you don't have, and you have it. And you know, for me, a guest bedroom is You're right. I think a guest bedroom needs to be functional, but not necessarily a piece of the house because how often are you using If you take up percentage wise, five ten percent of the year, is that guest bedroom is being used? 00:04:30 Speaker 2: I'd say three percent, zero percent. If I'm lucky. 00:04:33 Speaker 3: I think we can make something out of that. We could figure out something there. But my wife got it into her head. My lovely wife, June Dian rayphel who you know from Mi Criky and also Black Monday. She's great. I love her. We had an office up here. The guest bedroom was in office. I loved it. It was beautiful, light came in, it was amazing. And when the pandemic hitch, She's like, we need to turn that office into a guest bedroom. And I said but why are we are simply not gonna have anyone over. That's the whole thing is. We can't have. 00:05:00 Speaker 2: Another backwards version of what everyone else is done. Right now, most guest bedrooms are either zoom middle schools or makeshift pilates studios. 00:05:08 Speaker 3: And she's like, we need to do it, and I said, okay, So we cleared out the office and we put a giant king size bad because June was like, we need to get king sized because it's comfortable. And then this makes it for people like, well, wait, we're doing a king we're doing a king size. If I'm doing a guest bedroom, I'm doing a pull out couch in a place to put a couple of shirts. 00:05:27 Speaker 2: You're lucky if there's a cot, a cot and a string to turn on the light bulb. 00:05:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So anyway, now this whole thing, this whole decoration of this room, and oh isn't it beautiful? It turned out so great. Yeah, and now guess what, I have no place to go, and now I'm I am basically like hunched over like dresser drawers and you know, like getting chairs from other rooms. So yeah, that's that's how my pandemic is. So I, and I also know that there's no we work in my future. I used to be at a shared working space out here, which is amazing, but that's not coming back. 00:06:03 Speaker 2: That's not happening. 00:06:04 Speaker 3: Yeah. So anyway, that's where I am. I'm making do and I love it all, and I love my wife and I love our guest room, but I just wish I had a little bit. I basically have now taken to putting a divider in my guest room so I look like I'm in, Like I look like the cover of that New York magazine that came out, or New York magazine that just came out where the agent to mine drew where it's just like somebody like just from the waste up looking good and everything else is a cow. So anyway, sorry, that was a very long winded tangent about where I'm at. 00:06:30 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, this guest bedroom is going to destroy your marriage anyone since pandemic has happened in this guest bedroom has become kind of the jewel of your home. Has anyone stayed in it? No, of course not. We're smart, we don't have people over. But I don't understand the logic behind this sudden I think. I think it is simply the panic of pandemic. Right, we got to do stuff and then all of a sudden, like now, if it was building a gym. 00:06:57 Speaker 3: In the house, that makes sense to me, Yeah, you know, let's do that. But like this was I think early on, and it was a thought process that we needed to chase down because all we need to do is not bring the bed in, right, really right, just keep it. We could call the minute pandemics over, get the bead people on the phone, all right, bring it, but yeah, we didn't do that. I think there's also like a feeling of it. And this is like why I like Legos. I find Legos to be a very a de stressor for me because there's like a beginning, middle, and an end to Legos. I can do something with my hands. I don't smoke, but I can watch TV. I can and I'm I'm doing something and someone's telling me what to do, and at the end of it, it's done. And I think there was an idea like, well, we want to get that guest bedroom done. We're home now, let's get the guest bedroom done. And so we got it done, but at what cost? At what cost? 00:07:49 Speaker 2: Well, at your costs. You're now you're in an uncomfortable spot podcasting. 00:07:53 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I mean, Junia told me like, we're going to share this office, and again edged out, edged. 00:08:01 Speaker 2: Have you taken a nap in the guest bedroom? I feel like that's a decent napping space. 00:08:04 Speaker 3: Well, I will tell you this. We have both slept in the guest bedroom bed. And I'll tell you a couple of reasons why. We have a four year old and a six year old and during this pandemic. Oddly, and I've read this a few times in like in you know, psychology readings, or at least parts of it that were supplanted into a larger article that like kids were looking for safety, so they often crawl into their parents' bed during this pandemic. That hasn't been the case before the pandemic, but they definitely do it a little bit more now. And one of my kids is a great sleeper. I love like cut on with him. The other one kicks and hits and splays, and June kicks and hits and splays too. So sometimes I'll look at the makeup of the bed and I'll be like, you know what, it's a guest bedroom night, sneak. 00:08:49 Speaker 2: I love that a guest bedroom night is the most exotic vacation any of us can go on. 00:08:54 Speaker 3: Right now, we've had a few moments where we've both thought we've had COVID, which was just sure post nasal drip. And that has also been while I'm quarantining now in the guest bedroom bed. So yeah, there has been guest bedroom bed moments. So that has been nice. And I will say I appreciate the king size, nice mattress in there because it is it is a comfortable sleep. It's not like sleeping on the couch. Quite a comfortable stay. 00:09:18 Speaker 2: Oh well, maybe it's it was a decent maybe worked for you, Maybe it worked out. What sort of legos do you make? I have to I who was I talking to recently? Someone about legos? And I cannot put together a Lego set? 00:09:29 Speaker 3: Oh, yes you can. 00:09:30 Speaker 2: I don't. 00:09:30 Speaker 3: I don't have the spatial skills. Oh you do, because it just tells you what to do. You got to take it one step by the time. Like look, if you gave me a bag of legos and said, build build me a castle like that. Nope. But it's like it's like legos are the building equivalent of a coloring book. 00:09:47 Speaker 2: I can barely color. Now we're we're just listing things I'm not good at. 00:09:51 Speaker 3: You. You are given everything, and now you just make a you don't need. By the way, a coloring book is actually more choices legos. There's no choices. This brick goes over here, and it's and for me in my brain where I'm very much like wanting to keep things in order and have a plan, it allows me to like manifest all the things that I do in unhealthy ways in a very healthy way. I got to separate all my bricks. I put it all down, I build it out, and then you can build really fun stuff and you can go goofy or you can be like during this pandemic, I built like the Walt Disney Castle, which was a fun build I built. 00:10:24 Speaker 2: Ut Now was that like a bit like how big is the Walt Disney The Walt Disney Castle, I. 00:10:28 Speaker 3: Would say is probably from like foot to knee, you know, it's like that, you know, like yeah, like that kind of a adult adult foot to me. And I know that that's probably not right for a lot of people who are different heights. But I'm just gonna say you get roughly get the idea right toes. But there are like some fun ones and I also built like I love this, Like there's like a town Square series, so there's like a movie theater and there's a barber shop in a pool hall. So you like to build those. And right now I have a haunted mansion over here that I haven't built, but I really like it. And but it is it's fun. I got into puzzles after that. It's just something to do with their hands that make you, that makes you feel good. And I don't. I'm not one of those freaks. I'm not going to display it. I'm not like, now, let me put up in my house and she'll. 00:11:11 Speaker 2: Be, yeah, that's a bridge way too far. 00:11:13 Speaker 3: No, No, I want to build it, and then I give it to my four year old son, who, within I would say, seven to fifteen minutes, totally destroys it, either dropping it, accidentally kicking a ball through it. So there is something so beautiful about taking a couple of weeks to build something so complex and then in moments watching it just be destroyed. Yes, and I let's see you like let go of some bigger things. I think it's I think Legos. By the way, this is my book. Legos is a metaphor for life. And yeah, so there is something like really I've gotten to be like so at peace with watching. Like the first thing that we ever built during quarantine was like a big Harry Potter Hogwarts Hall because my son Harry Catter and it was a very extensive build and especially working with a six year old that it took a long long time because we have to do it together and all in his time and on his attention level. And with the minute we brought it outside to show his friend, he dropped it and it just exploded on the ground and exploded on the ground in such a way that was like, oh wow, there's nothing salvageable about this. Just get the broom out and you know, let's put it in another bag and then we'll never touch these pieces ever again. 00:12:18 Speaker 2: I think the destruction of puzzles and legos is absolutely fine. My friend Leela Stron, she made a wonderful joke which is like the last piece of the puzzle. You go from it being a fun game to a picture you no longer care about. Yeah, I think that that makes perfect sense. It's I love very enjoyable in the time, and then it's nothing. I don't think it around anymore. 00:12:39 Speaker 3: I get it out of here, and it's it's it's it's like the equivalent of like I would imagine what a one night stand is. It's sort of like I don't ever need to see you again, but this is a great experience while it happened. 00:12:48 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, well you know you mentioned this right off the bat on the podcast that you had maybe there was a gift in play here, and obviously this podcast is called I said no gifts. Everyone knows that, you know that you agreed to be on the podcast. 00:13:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know, but I couldn't help myself. 00:13:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of weeks ago you agreed to be on this. And then a little while later a package arrived. And you know, we're all getting packages during the pandemic. We're not out shopping, we're not out edit store, so the packages are arriving frequently. It's something that I've ordered. But with this podcast, now I've had my boyfriend. He'll I'll have him inspect the package before I open it to see if it's something I ordered or if it's something else. And he said, oh, this is from Paul's Sheer. So apparently you've sent me something I did. I did, I did here it's in this bag and it says love, honor, cherish. I don't know, do interesting? I mean, do you want me to open this on my podcast? 00:13:51 Speaker 3: I would? I would, by the way. I'm surprised at this packaging. So okay, well yeah, now I'm hoping it is definitely from me. Let's see. Oh yeah, open it. 00:14:01 Speaker 2: Let's step in here, let's get into this. Okay, so here's the package, but I haven't. I'm about to see what's inside. My boyfriend's knowing what this is, and we're just gonna open this up. It looks like, oh my god, this is actually an incredible gift for me. It's a set of funnels. And I have had so many things I've needed to funnel into jarsys and I have not purchased any recently. We moved and I just like, you move into a new space and you're like, oh, I need this many things and you just forget to buy Wait, why did you buy me funnels? 00:14:39 Speaker 3: Because of that reason, we all need funnels, we do, we do need them. Like I realized that I was like oftentimes I'm trying to get things from one container to the next, and I'm like and I'm like, and then it's so hard. I'm like, Oh, only if I only had a funnel. And I said it as if I was in some sort of world where all I needed where if like it was impossible for me to pick up my phone and hit one button and then it'd be delivered to me within hour's And the minute I got those funnels, I'm gonna tell you it was life changing. Now I have a funnel. Whenever I'm doing something that requires a funnel, I got a funnel. And look, and I didn't know if you had funnels, you can go on many different levels with the funnels. I what I've done is I use one of those funnels to make my own hand sanitizer, because I got one point. Well, at one point there was like a shortage of like personalized hand sanitizer, so it was just like these giant jugs. So what I did was I went on Amazon and I bought small squeeze bottles, empty squeeze bottles, and then what I do now is I put the funnel in the small squeeze bottle and then I have something I put it on my dog leash. So when I'm out there and I, you know whatever, I hit something that I need to clean up on. Done the funnel, the funnel stay of the day. Now, if I didn't have that funnel, I'm like, googlegal, it's all over the counter. Now I'm paper toweling it up and I'm like, ah, I wasted this and this is a mess, and my day has gone on much longer than I needed to. 00:16:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the paper towel shortage would have been curtailed completely if everyone had had funnels. 00:16:14 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely. 00:16:15 Speaker 2: The amount of paper towels I'm using is ridiculous because but the problem is, once I'm done cleaning up the mess I've made, I forget I need the funnel. Until the next time I need the funnel. 00:16:24 Speaker 3: I have funnel amnesia. Yeah, so this is why I never buy one. Well, that's exactly. You have to kind of work in the moment. That is something that I've really become accomplished at as a shopper, an online shopper, Like I think of it and I go and I build it. And so what I'll do is oftentimes I'll just check out at the end of the day. I'll check out at the end, you know, I'll kind of like keep a little running, so, you know, unless unless there's something that I need it right away, I got to take something else. I as as somebody who's wiping up a lot of stuff. I am a big fan of these bar towels that are absolutely amazing. And they are a towel, yes, they're a little bit more echo lot, you know, because you just throw them in the wash and they are so absorbent and you can and uh and they're just great like you do. 00:17:11 Speaker 2: It's like to clean up bars. Yeah yes, right, like a bartender to wipe down the bar bark. 00:17:17 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay exactly. And they are they're great. They're just like and they're cheap. It's like fifteen bucks and get twenty four of them. They're called like Utopia towels, kitchen bar mops, and they're just like they're terry cloth towels. They're not cute. 00:17:29 Speaker 2: Well I don't want anything to do with a towel that isn't cute, but they get the job done. 00:17:33 Speaker 3: No. 00:17:33 Speaker 2: I did something similar. I bought like a set of probably one hundred microfiber towels. 00:17:39 Speaker 3: I did the same thing, and. 00:17:40 Speaker 2: Now there's stuffed in a drawer somewhere. But anytime I need to wipe something up, I just grab one out. I don't care about them, they don't need to look good, and I can wipe things down. 00:17:48 Speaker 3: Wow, so you're using that micro see. I only use it for like screens, and that's what I initially bought it for. But I bought way too many, so I thought, why not just you? Why not destroy these and wiped down the kitchen counters this sort of thing. Okay, that's really good because what I am often doing is when I buy an excess of that sort of stuff, I will then place it in every room of the house. Okay, here's one in my desk drawer, here's one in my night side table, here's one in the bathroom. It's like, so then it's sort of like where it's not where is that towel? It's like, Oh, that towel is everywhere. The entire house is a towel. Yeah, and the only thing you can count on in your house. Yes, I'm like, that is what I need and I'm into it. 00:18:31 Speaker 2: Are there any other big purchases you've made since the pandemic began? I bought a cheese slicer. Yeah, absolutely, especially a late night purchase. And I'm not talking about like about Dourrito's at midnight. I'm saying like, I will automatically go, you know what, I need a goddamn office chair, and or you know, like I remember that the office chair purchase was fully conceived and executed all while I was waiting in my car for. 00:19:00 Speaker 3: A COVID test. I was because I was like, you know what, my back is hurting. I'm like, come sitting in the stupid ass chair. It doesn't feel good. And I was like, I need to get an office chair. I'm like, well, you don't get an office chair. Shre like why? And then I have this whole conversation with myself. I'm like why not, Like well, it's expensive, I'm like, but you use it every day. It's the reason why I didn't buy. I didn't buy a new computer. I bought a computer during the pandemic as well. I haven't bought a new computer. And a person that we both know, Jordan Kahn, co creator of Black Monday, he also has this old. 00:19:28 Speaker 2: His computer is a thousand years old. 00:19:30 Speaker 3: It's so heavy, it's so whatever. And I go Jordan. Why we both have lamented, like why haven't you bought a new computer. It's like, well, I know they're going to come out with a new one, and I don't want to get it, and I'm like, I'm the same, and then we both realize something, this is what we make our market, like, this is a major like of anything that I use in my life. The computer is is that thing. I use it every day and and I think I'm still in the mentality where when I bought a computer as a younger person in college, I was like, holy shit, I spent three thousand dollars on a computer, you know. And by the way, I'm not saying that computers are cheap, but if you put it against how much I use it, this thing is costing me like a penny a day. I don't. I don't. I don't think about it like I don't. I don't think twice when I get like a coffee being coffee, I'm not like, oh, that's four bucks. I'm like, I have more debate. I'm wrestling over the one thing that I need. It literally is falling apart. Jordan's is heavy. I've never felt the Mac that's heavy. I think this is like twelve years old. Yeah, and mine was five. 00:20:32 Speaker 2: I was eight. I am the same way where like I mean, I will say I bought a new computer and it immediately was essentially operating the same speed as my old computer and getting way hotter. I think I made some sort of terrible mistake. I feel like someone's trying to teach me a lesson here. 00:20:49 Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you this, don't don't give up on it. I believe that one of the big issues with with this whole thing, like the this new computer I we're on the same one, is that there's an update that has happened that is going to make it cool down again. 00:21:06 Speaker 2: Please, because mine is truly becoming like a hot plate. 00:21:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, mine mine. You know, I got this great little uh it's almost looks Origami esque. It's like you pull it out and it's like it holds your computer up. And I find that that is a great uh. It's a computer stand, but it's so it takes a it's a I I feel like it's called it the butterfly or something. It's it's a great little stand. And I wish I could tell you, but but uh, but anyway that has helped a great deal, just so it's not just on a on a hard surface. But of course I was holding off because this new MacBook has like an arm processor and that comes out soon, and I should I wait? Should I wait? And I wait? And you know what I said to myself, like this chair, it's okay, you deserve it. And and I can't tell you, like how what a difference that chair in the computers made? Like and you know what, if I have to buy a new computer, I mean I might buy a new computer before I even need one. I might get in two. 00:21:59 Speaker 2: Years, I've my same mentality because the first time I, like the last time I bought a computer, I had absolutely no money and so I had I was just working a small time job and it was a huge purchase. The one before that was college and so those were enormous purchases. And somewhere in the back of my mind that is now just the biggest purchase you can possibly make. It would be easier for me to buy a house boat than a laptop. 00:22:25 Speaker 3: And when you literally think, especially now in the pandemic where you're on zoom calls or at least you know, look I think now I'm the same thing. This is a universal thing, but most of us are in this business we have to be Why would you ever go like, well, I don't need it yet It's like, yeah, you do. Now every part of your business is on the it's the only thing you need. Yeah, So that has been like for me, I try to like I definitely have these arguments in my head. And I was thinking the other day, like somebody's like, what have you bought that's been fun for pandemic And I'm like, nothing, But I bought a lot of things that I needed that I would never actually buy. And that makes me happy though too. It's like I didn't go out and like, you know, buy a popcorn maker, but I did buy like a faarra gun. You know. It's like, you know these things that have like have greatly improved my life. And yes they're a little bit more expensive, but they are like functional parts. There's no fun. It's all like this is what I needed and now I got it them happier for it. 00:23:24 Speaker 2: Other things that are common sense purchases for other people for me are big, big luxury luxuries. Essentially. I mean, I for the first time in my life recently, I bought a second pair of shoes before my first pair of shoes had holes in them, and they're just sitting there waiting to be used. I was like, oh, I like these shoes. I don't want to have to track them down again in the future. I'm just going to buy them. They were forty dollars. It felt crazy to me. 00:23:56 Speaker 3: But I am the same. Yes, I bought. I have in my closet right now, three pairs of Stan smith because I'm like, all right, I saw sale one time, I'm gonna get on my I'm going to wear them again. I like them, right, and I like I have a dressy pair of stand Smith's that I wear. I have like you know, like, I'm like, let's get them, let's go, let's go. 00:24:12 Speaker 2: I finally got to the point where I'm like, there's not going to be a giant style shift in my life. I'm not going to become a different type of dresser. I've been wearing this type of shoes for fifteen to twenty years. I love something really drastic happens. Just spend forty dollars. I think it's worth the gamble. And now they're just waiting for me. Waiting to be worn out, and they look wonderful. 00:24:31 Speaker 3: And that's the whole thing. I think. When you find that thing that you like, you got to double down, You got to get into it. One of the best decisions I've ever made in my life was a we're the same idea, replace my underwear and replace my socks. Why am I waiting for these things to wear out? By the way, undershirts as well, Like you know, like for me, I'm not like an undershirt wear on the rag, but like when I get dressed up in that time when I edt to do that, you know, I want a nice undershirt undneath there. And I was like, well, what rick, why would you place it? Like what would have to happen to the undershirt for to be replaced, and the amount of battle damage that would have to be a crude on it, like would be so large that I felt so much pleasure going like, these are fine undershirts and guess what, I just found another six pack of Haynes white. 00:25:18 Speaker 2: And a good undershirt. I don't wear undershirts, but yeah, yeah, like when you're dressed up or what. 00:25:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I often will wear an undershirt with a button down shirt because for the fear that if I sweat, you will see sweat stains and I need that little layer, and not that I'm like, I'm not like Albert Brooks and broadcast news, but yeah, I want a little protection. I will also say the underwears where I'm really experimenting, like and I think that that is. It took me a while again to be like, I'm getting rid of underwear right, and now I believe I have my right things like Hanes has my shirt my undershirt of choice. I go between a Tommy John boxer brief and I'm experimenting now with mack Weldon, which I also like Maldon. 00:26:03 Speaker 2: I don't know mac Welton. 00:26:05 Speaker 3: Mac Weldon is a podcast friendly underwear that I had tried in the past because they were sponsored on how to this Get Me? And I really like them. But then when I went over to Tommy John, I was like, well, I don't need these mac Weldon's anymore, and I was like, you know, but I did like those mac Weldon's, And then I went back to mac Weldon's, like they're pretty good, and they're a little bit cheaper than Tommy John's. 00:26:23 Speaker 2: How much are you spending on a pair of underwear. This will forever be a difficulty for me. 00:26:27 Speaker 3: Well, I believe me, I'm in the same boat. They are not cheap underwear, like they're not They're not They're not ridiculously expensive. But like Tommy John sometimes will run like I want to say, like three for forty five dollars or you know. 00:26:42 Speaker 2: See dollars for a pair of underwear. Seems wild to me. 00:26:45 Speaker 3: Oh and by the way, that's like on sale, right, like they're like, you know, so I'm waiting for sales. No, you're right, But again, I'm using them all the time, right, I mean, I mean I'm wearing them. I'm just gonna you know, I'm wearing them all the time. I want to be comfortable in them. Why am I depriving myself of this thing? And now I know that certain underwear like these feel good, I'm not going there because I'm like, I need an expensive pair of underwear. These actually feel good on my body, right, and why would I want? Like these are better than the other ones? And that's it. Like that's the same way I felt about my socks, which are bombas. I was like, oh, I used to always get Haynes and these bombas I'm like, these are these actually feel good on my fake like when you try something that actually feels good. 00:27:27 Speaker 2: And for me, that's the fear, Like any increase in quality of life, I'm always afraid I won't be able to return to the terrors that I was living through before. And then what if I, you know, like an expensive one and expensive pair of socks, suddenly I need all expensive socks. 00:27:44 Speaker 3: Well, you gotta like, you know, you gotta like again, it's like the computer, get a price at the way you want it, like, you know, like there's some things we have to you know, embrace. I'm going to tell you I'm going to pass an ugly, dirty rumor on you came to the right podcast is Toby Maguire never wears the same pair of underwear? What that's his thing? Why did you hear that? I had heard it from a friend and that was his whole thing, Like he doesn't like to rewear underwear. 00:28:12 Speaker 2: Well, this must have started on Spider Man. I feel like you're a Spider Man costume, those underwear getting just you're tearing through them. 00:28:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, I think that there is like an element of let's uh, let's you know, look if you can afford it. I don't feel that necessity. I'm not that kind of a person. I'm not like I don't need to waste items. But I also find that if you expend some good money on something, they last way longer, and they're right, so they last longer and they're more comfortable. And again, if you buy a cup of coffee from like Starbucks, or you you order in like you know, I always I always think about it like this. I'm like, I'll have no problem having a great dinner, but that great dinner, I'm not thinking about that six months later or most or even fairly priced dinner. Like I'm not like, oh boy, that night. There are some amazing dinners that I've had. But but yet I don't deliberate like should I get this or that, because I have to really think about it. But meanwhile, the underwear is on my body all the time, and yet I'm like, oh, am I worthy of this? But I just ate, you know, I ate a thirty eight dollars piece of salmon at a restaurant that I probably could have gotten at home for like seven bucks. Like you know, they never gave it any thought. No, I need the salmon. 00:29:28 Speaker 2: I guess the thing about like a good pair of underwear is that you you're supposed to forget you're wearing them. So like as with this piece of salmon, you know you're eating a wonderful piece of salmon, so you it feels like it's worth the money a pair of underwear that you're forgetting, It's like, who cares? But of course if they're horrible underwear and they're torturing you, well again, like, I think, how many meals have you had that are just fair? I've eaten now many times. Most of my meals are fair, Like you. 00:29:56 Speaker 3: Know, they're not like you know, they're like and that's not anything to they're right home about. But it's like, you get to a certain level, you're eating at a certain you know, you're eating a certain level of food. It's fair, it's good. What are you talking. 00:30:08 Speaker 2: About If I don't have a great dinner. I mean, this is before the pandemic. The dinner is the only thing that I can count on during the day that I'm going to enjoy, literally, the only thing. If I was eating a fair dinner every time, I can have a fair breakfast, I can have a fair lunch, I can have a fair mid afternoon snack dinner has got to be fireworks. 00:30:29 Speaker 3: Okay, you see that's a very like I am. I'm not a food snob, and I'm not saying that you are. Well, I mean, that's all you're implying. Just no, because I actually am I am. I am a person who researches and looks and like, whenever I'm out of town, I have read every website I have gone down, have read the user reviews. I'm going to eat at the place I want to have. I want to have a good meal. And I guess what I'm saying is the ones that really skyrocket out are few and far between. So maybe fair is a heart like good. It was good. It was good, but it's not like I could tell you I'm on one hand, like the five meals I kind of remember as being like phenomenal, like in Japan. Yeah, like when I ate in Japan, we were very researched at where we went, and I can remember all those meals. Those rights in Japan were great. But if I'm eating in La, like, sure, ye happen to little dowms a bunch, it's good. I like little downs. 00:31:28 Speaker 2: It's the little doms actually is fair. 00:31:31 Speaker 3: Fair, it's fair. 00:31:32 Speaker 2: It's absolutely fair astaurant. 00:31:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a nice restaurant. It's a fair it's a good experience here there with people like like, I guess, get I think there's so many, Like if I think of all the times I eat out, all the meals I eat in from ordering, it's like there's a handful that are great, Like maybe in a year, I'm I guess I'm saying, and maybe this is where we're different. And a year I'm going like, yeah, there's probably about fifteen twenty meals on the year, Like that's a low average that I'm like remembering. If you asked me, like, what was the last great meal, I'm like, I get, like I can draw a couple of lines, but it's not like and oh, there's so many to choose from what month? 00:32:09 Speaker 2: Like well, but also if you're having a spectacular meal every single night, those all blur together. 00:32:15 Speaker 3: So yeah, exactly, yeah, I guess, I mean all I guess it's all you know, because sometimes a great meal can be like a great burger burrito, Oh great burrito. If had amazing burritos, Oh, h's the right spot. Sometimes it's just about the moment and the food and it all it hits you and then you get you're in You're golden. 00:32:32 Speaker 2: Right, you just come to it with the level of hunger and almost anything, real spectacular meal. 00:32:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. 00:32:37 Speaker 2: I mean Law Pergoletta. Have you been to Law Pergoletta. Oh yes, yes, places adhire people not going there over little doms. 00:32:43 Speaker 3: It's the atmosphere. I believe that there is a snobbery. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no that no, people have a snobbery to law Pergoletta. Like I don't find this to be it's like, by the way, that type place and this is a very niche conversation, but there is a time I need to talk about. Yeah, there's a tie place next to La Pergoletta that's in that strip mall, not the one that's on the corner by Heidiefice's dad's former pediatrician. But uh oh yeah, that that little that place that became the ice cream place, the little wooden house that was Heidie Feis's dad's pediatricians. Yeah. So like we when we first had our first kid, he passed away sadly but not sadly, but he was older man, but he Yeah, we went in there and and uh, yeah, that's Heidiefie's dad. 00:33:34 Speaker 2: That's crazy. Then an ice cream place then shut down. 00:33:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that ice cream place that you know, which I heard like Steven Spielberger is a back up. But anyway, the idea there's a tie place in that strip mall that's equally delicious, but you don't go there because it's like, well, is it is it pining crane? Is it? Is it that you know it's is it an eater? No, it's not an eater. And some of the best like tie food, some of the best Mexic computer is not like on that eater list of the best of the bed not me. So I'm sorry. 00:34:02 Speaker 2: Mud Leather Booth to enjoy my Italian food exactly. 00:34:06 Speaker 3: So there there is like that, like you know, I'm not so I'm not just saying like spend the big Bucks and you have the thing. I'm just saying that there's you know, there's you know, there's a snobbery though with that love Provoletta, because I've tried to take June there and June has been like nah. 00:34:19 Speaker 1: Why. 00:34:21 Speaker 3: The food is so much better there? There's an energy like little Doms is like June is especially like this, like She's like, I've made up my mind that that is the Italian place that we eat now. I brought home John and Vinnie's last week because that is a place that I that is, no bad meal has been had there, uh you know, or at least for me, and and that that will like trump Little Doms for rights, world's apart, world's apart, world's apart. But yeah, so it's I think it's familiarity. I think it's sort of like, well, we're a part of this club or part of the Little Doms club. I hear him a lot of Parletta, give it some love. 00:35:01 Speaker 2: I think I need to get I think the podcast community has got to head to Los Angeles and head to La Pergoletta, have you know, your little bread, your pasta, your mediocre service, and ensue yourself. I don't know, I will stand up for that place any day of the week. I agree. I mean, now I've got my funnels here. This is a huge life improvement for me. I'm not going to be just spilling things all over the place. I like, I've been trying to get flour into jars. I've been trying to get, you know. 00:35:33 Speaker 3: Get ready, and then once you start to understand the power of the funnel. I want you to go back on whatever online shopping portal that you use and look at a nicer funnel. This is just to get you in. 00:35:46 Speaker 2: This is this is what I was going to say. I don't feel like you can get a funnels or funnels, are they not? 00:35:53 Speaker 3: You can get like an XO funnel. It's going to be a lot more sturdy and a lot like I have an OLEXO funnel and it's it's there is there is rubber tipping, there is a sturdiness to it, there is a I mean, these are good. These are a funnel, by the way, they're fair fair right, But a no XO is going to really knock you up. 00:36:13 Speaker 2: I mean, I will say, this doesn't look like a funnel for a hot liquid. I'm not going to be pouring a boiling hot soup, right, That's what I'm saying. 00:36:19 Speaker 3: So now, once you start to be like I like it, get on that online portal, look get a nicer funnel. 00:36:25 Speaker 2: I've got a toe in the water of the funnel community. 00:36:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. You're in. 00:36:29 Speaker 2: Now you're experimenting and exploring. This is very exciting, Paul, I want to play a game do you want to play? We have two games. One's called Gift Master, one one is called Gift or a Curse. You choose and I'll tell you what it's all about. All right, Well, I'm going to ask you questions, say what would you what have you not played in a while, because I think it will be making more. 00:36:48 Speaker 3: Interesting for you? And then because either one or a title, let's play. Gift Masters always fun. I like Gift Master. I was going to say that that's what I wanted to play because it sounded a little bit more like a fire tear and I feel like we could get it right. Yeah, I'm really laying it down. 00:37:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, to play this game, I need a number between one and ten from you. 00:37:07 Speaker 3: Okay, eight, Okay. 00:37:08 Speaker 2: I have to do some calculating really quickly. While I'm doing this. You can recommend something, you can promote something. You can apologize to somebody, make a public apology. I've never asked you know, you can do whatever you want. I'll be right back. 00:37:21 Speaker 3: Okay, great, as you are doing that, I'm gonna say that, you know, I often say the secret of gift giving is not getting a gift for the person that you think they are, they get a gift for the person that they actually are. And then I see you still typing. So I'm going to go and I'll plug. I'll plug just the idea of you know, come visit me on Twitch, which has been a fun thing that we've been doing in pandemic doing bits. You should come on Twitch with us. Me and Rob people have been doing shows. Me and Adam Palley have been doing shows and they've been so much fun. And people are, I think, are very nervous about Twitch. But it's just like YouTube. Just go to twitch dot tv, slash Paul Sheer and it's so easy. It's just it's not hard. I thought like, do I need to be a member? Do I need to sign up for this? No? No, no, no, It's just it's just like YouTube, but it seems scarier and it's not so now that we're in a new year, I want you to open yourself up to that. 00:38:20 Speaker 2: Okay, fantastic. I like half heard what you were saying there, and I probably like a nice combination of things. And I have to ask you, I have yet to open Twitch. What is happening on Twitch? What are you doing us? 00:38:30 Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm basically just doing different fun comedy shows. Okay, it gives me that it scratches an itch for me. That is like live performing. So I have a show that I host with robb Ubel just called Thursdays with Robin Paul every Thursday five to seven Pacific time, and we bring on people like Judy Greer, MICHAELA. Watkins, and Jerry O'Connell and just a random a bunch of people. It's kind of like an R rated talk show, but we just we interact with the audience. We do bits, we have characters come on and it's real loose. Adam past Ally and I do a show where we have people send us their Twitter drafts jokes, yeah, and then we look at the drafts and we go, okay, this this is why this doesn't work, and then we all together build them a better one and then we tell them to send it out and then we see how we do. 00:39:16 Speaker 2: Have you seen success with your noted tweets? 00:39:19 Speaker 3: We have, We have seen a lot of Like I I was, so, I had a joke which was what if the Snyder cut isn't good? And Adam was like, you know, that's like that's still to niche And I was like, I know, that's why it's in my drafts. And we start talking about it and I'm just using mind because I don't want to put somebody else's out there by that, and the audience started chiming in and what we eventually came up with was, this is the only Snyder cut that I want. And then we had a picture of a Snyder Pretzel broken in half and it did transformation. Yeah, I did. It did great and I was like, wow, would never have gone to Snyder Pretzel. And so there's you know, it's but it's actually fun because we're saying we're putting ourselves out there, and we're letting people put themselves out there, ranting that you think this is funny. We're saying this is what you can't. You haven't there's a reason why you hit save the draft, right, right, So we need to look at that and kind of examine it. I love that. 00:40:17 Speaker 2: Okay, enough of that, though, we're gonna play the game. I'm going to tell you three potential gifts items things like this, and then three celebrities. You're going to tell me which celebrity you're going to give which gift and why does. 00:40:28 Speaker 3: That make sense to you. Yes, okay. 00:40:31 Speaker 2: The three gifts are number one is a thoughtful note, Number two is frozen dinners for a year, and number three is a water pick, you know, for your teeth. The three celebrities. You're gonna have to give these two? Oh god, this is where I fall apart every episode trying to find the celebrities. 00:40:52 Speaker 3: And we want to just edit this all out. 00:40:54 Speaker 2: No, you've got to leave this all in. 00:40:56 Speaker 3: You've got to keep. 00:40:58 Speaker 2: Okay, Number one Juliette Lewis. Number two, let's see Connie Britton. Okay, Oh, this is an all female a gift master. And number three is Sheryl Crow. 00:41:11 Speaker 3: I love it. And what's the middle gift? It's a water pic, it's a thoughtful note, and it's a what frozen dinners for a year. That's a full calendar year of frozen meals. All right, well I'm going to make and what kind of frozen meal we're talking about? We're talking about like this is so to you. 00:41:27 Speaker 2: Yes, this could be you know, you know, hungry man dinners. This could be like Okay, I got my theory. 00:41:33 Speaker 3: Then I'm going to talk to a very good chef who is going to make a bespoke frozen meal for a year for Connie Britton. Connie Britain is an amazing actress. She is a single mom, and you put those things together, does she have time for herself? And you know what, sometimes she wants to come home and not worry about postmating, not worrying about door dashing. She wants to be able to be like, I'm going to turn on the oven, put this in there, and I'm going to be happy because I'm working hard on Rescue nine to one one or whatever she's on right now, and I want her to be fed and happy. And because she's doing so much taking care of everybody, being number one on that call, she's taking care of that baby. So Connie Britton, you're getting a year of frozen meals, which we love that. 00:42:18 Speaker 2: Connie Britton is maybe the most comforting presence on television. Anytime she's on something, I know I'm in good hands with Connie. 00:42:25 Speaker 3: I had a real embarrassing moment with her. 00:42:27 Speaker 2: Wow, you sent her a frozen meals. 00:42:31 Speaker 3: For a year, all right. I don't approach celebrities. I know that it's a bad, a bad thing for me to do because they're not going to live up to expectation. I don't think the interaction will be good. I don't play it cool. I just don't play it. It's hard and occasionally when I have played its backfired. So I'm at the Arc Light. I'm loving Friday Night Lights. It's amazing. It's one of its transformation. It's a great show. I'm walking in, I'm by myself. She's walking out, she's by herself. I stop her. I don't I know how to do this. I don't because I've also been someone on the other end of this. I kind of get get in the way of her, you know, just so I can kind of like make eye contact, and I go, You're absolutely amazing, thank you for everything that you do. And I keep on walking. I'm not stopping. I'm not asking sure, but I do that. Two days later, I go to a wedding. She's dating one of my friends. So I have stopped this person as a fan, and then I have to sit at table with her as a friend. And now I feel like I'm dying. I'm dying on the inside that I have been like, what just do I acknowledge it? Do I not acknowledge it? And I decided I wasn't going to acknowledge it because I thought, you know what, it was a quick enough interaction that a was not memorable, it was positive. And she ances are she doesn't remember my face, and I don't think that you did. But I live there with the guilt knowing it was existing, hanging over our head and I never do it. And I was like, that's why you can never do this. You can never do that. So yeah, that was that was my Connie Britton story. And I didn't mean it. 00:44:16 Speaker 2: There's a chance she was sitting there thinking that's the guy from the movie Theater. I hope he doesn't bring. 00:44:21 Speaker 3: This up, right, And and so I think I did myself and her a favor. We both played the game expertly, if that is the case, right, We avoided it all. And by the way I would have said it to her, Yeah, Like I wasn't like I love you, marry me, baby, you know, I wasn't like I didn't do anything so embarrassing, but it still was embarrassing. It was embarrassing to be a fan and then have to be social. 00:44:45 Speaker 2: Right. 00:44:46 Speaker 3: I don't want to do I don't want to cross those deep things, you know, the show that we are on, Like I very rarely have said anything nice to the leads of that show, because I don't want to come across to thirsty. 00:44:58 Speaker 2: I mean, but it's a you. These people probably want to hear these things. 00:45:02 Speaker 3: Everybody does. 00:45:03 Speaker 2: Everybody. 00:45:05 Speaker 3: Everybody wants to hear that they're great. 00:45:07 Speaker 2: But it's also get receiving a compliments uncomfortable regardless. So there's a whole game you have to play there. Well, that was my whole My whole trick is I'm gonna buzz by you. I'm going to tom cruise you and top gun you. I'm going to bag You're great. I'm not stopping You're great. 00:45:24 Speaker 3: And there's a nice like hey like like I as someone who's experienced. When I first I had a little bit of recognizability, it was in New York City. I was doing a show called Best Week Ever, which is kind of like a cliff Notes of pop culture front Week, and so it was on every weekend. People really became familiar with me in a way that was kind of jaw dropping, Like, you know, living in New York City, so I would be walking down the street at all times and be like, oh, Best we Ever, that's awesome. But da da and and most of my New York interactions were that like a horn honk, I love you great, I love it. It's the best. Then I've had ones the not so great. Okay, So water pick. This is a tricky one because who wants a water pick? Honestly, who does want a water pick? 00:46:08 Speaker 2: Well, look, every dentist wants every one of their clients to have two dentists have clients. I don't know they do like patience. I suppose I feel like I'm always getting the hard sell on a water pick from my dentist, doctor Nancy. 00:46:22 Speaker 3: I'm never I've never heard a water pick. I've heard electric toothbrushes, like an oral b kind of electric toothbrush, right, I've never but my grandmother had a water pick, and she's always putting baking soda in there and kind of getting into some sort of foamy thing. I hear it. I get the water pick. But I'm looking at these two women. I'm looking at Cheryl Crow, I'm looking at Juliet Lewis, And now I know that, like the the air is coming out of this game in a second, because once I choose this, you know what I'm doing for the next So I need to like really deliberate it, and I'm going to say, show Crow, great smile, great teeth. But there's something about writing a note, a thoughtful note to Sheryl Crow that knows you are a poet in your songwriting. I'm going to reciprocate and give you a little bit of me. You gave me so much of you, Let me give you that. And I think that if I do that, she's going to be like, Oh, you're talking to me on my level. You are you know, we get where I'm at, and I feel like we're gonna have a better bond. Whereas if I gave a thoughtful note to Juliet Lewis, she might be offended. She might take that as an active aggression. I don't write. She's unpredictable. Juliette Lewis. 00:47:38 Speaker 2: I had a small interaction with juliett Lewis years and years ago in Park City. I had some friends and I had gone up to sun Dance to just you know, walk around. We ran into Juliet Lewis. I said hello to Juliet Lewis, and she's all she said was I kind of gotta go. 00:47:56 Speaker 3: So that was the interaction. And by the way, that seems about right. Juliette Lewis is, I would say a more stable Winona Rider, and that is a tricky place to be. I like Juliette Lewis. I think that she is actually a fantastic actress. But I feel like she's got an energy to her that I don't even want to say she's prickly. I don't. I don't think it's like, I don't think it's bitchy. I don't think. I just feel like, you don't want to upset her. You don't want to, like you know, it's like you don't want to approach an animal too quickly, like you know, so I want to. I want to make sure that when I approach her that I do it with love and care and respect and within her boundaries. So I think I would give her a water pick, but I would have to say to her, Hey, this is you know. I had one of these, an ex true one, and I thought, you want this because I don't know what to do with it, and I actually love it. And so then I'm showing her like I have it. I'm not giving it too because you have a problem with your teeth. I'm giving it to you because like I actually think it's good and I care about you and and you know, I'm just giving to you because of that, Like i'd have to kind of create a story around it. I couldn't just gift. 00:48:58 Speaker 2: Now. 00:48:58 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a rule of gift. 00:49:00 Speaker 2: I would that's a good techtic to say you already had one. It seems like you didn't even go out of your way. It's just like I just headed out of the house and I grabbed this. 00:49:07 Speaker 3: By the way. That was my style of dating when I was in New York. I would I would be like, you know, if I would say to you, would be like, oh, you know, I am so crazy. I got I have like these two tickets for you know, whatever it is. Do you want to come because I, you know, my friend bailed out at the last second, and I just you know, when I come, and then it was like, oh, we're kind of now. Look, I understand that could also work in a negative way, but it was a way of asking somebody out and then look, if a connection is happening. I wouldn't do that going like and then we're going to make out, Like I wasn't trying to like lay on like now we're on a date. But I'm like, if I can get you out right, I and go somewhere with you and we enjoy each other's company outside in this world. Let's let the world do its magic and push it together now, like you know, like because then we can decide let's do it again or let's never do it again. It's but it's a less of a pressurized situation, and I always found that was Actually you are really good at points confusing. 00:50:05 Speaker 2: Bringing some cloud of confusion into a first state. It allows for any possibility. 00:50:10 Speaker 3: Right, and it allows you to get out with that because like if you are dating someone who you don't you might see again, you know, you can allow you can allow a couple of things to happen. First of all, if that person's like is this a date? I don't want this to be a date, they can drop whatever bomb they want to drop on you early on, and then you're going into it going okay, well, now I know the lay of the land, like oh my girlfriend, my boyfriend, my what whoever said this? They can lay it down if I wasn't a date, So now I'm not embarrassed. Now you're not embarrassed. So you give each person a ripcord to pull. You know, you could do it yourself, but it allows you. It allows you guys to like, let's see what's there, and see what's there. And then it's like, oh yeah, we we when we saw Hamilton together, it was fun. Yeah, we had a great time. Well, you know, one table, we'll do that again and then we don't have to do it. But we as friends we went to go do something that was fun, but we didn't like go ballroom dancing. 00:51:00 Speaker 2: You know. 00:51:00 Speaker 3: It's it's sort of like I. 00:51:01 Speaker 2: Had an extra pair of tickets to a ballroom dancing class. 00:51:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so it's like there was like there was an element to that that I you know, obviously part of it was just my nervousness of wanting being afraid to ask somebody out. But uh I found it to be a good, low key way in. And again we'll cause some problems because then I think, then you're both second guessing are we on dates? Are we not on dates? And then but I think if you reciprocate, like let's do this again, like what are you doing Friday? Like that's the ball into somebody else's card, then we know, okay, well this is now we're not like, we're not in a stage like we need friends. We're in a stage of what's something there? 00:51:38 Speaker 2: Exactly. It's a decent tactic. I mean, I don't know. I'm always in favor of a little confusion, a little confusion. Okay, So Juliette's getting a water pick, Cheryl's getting a thoughtful note. This is I think you've done an excellent job here. 00:51:52 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 00:51:53 Speaker 2: We're going to move on to the final segment. You've proven everything you need to prove to me. This is called I said no question. People are writing into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. They have nowhere else to turn. They're trying to find gifts for people in their lives. So I'm going to read this real quick, he says Bridger and Guest. My husband and I recently had to evacuate due to the Oregon wildfires, and our friends graciously sheltered us during one of the worst weeks of our live. I want to get them a gift as a thank you for opening their home to us. The wife loves cooking, reading, and gardening. The husband loves sports, surfing and Jurassic Park. Of these are exciting people any suggestions. Thank you. That's from Amy L. So this is interesting coming around to the guest bedroom thing. I mean, this is a real full circle for this episode. Yes, these people have been have been sheltering. They're trying to get a thank you for the friends who have sheltered them in their home. The husband loves Jurassic Park and surfing. He's centrally seventeen years old, and the wife likes to cook and read and garden. When when you stay in someone's guest bedroom, do you get them a gift? 00:53:03 Speaker 3: Yes? What do you get them? The go to for me is flowers. The minute you leave, flowers, that's pleasure. Thank you so much for having me. That was lovely. It's a thoughtful gift. It's just sort of like I acknowledge that you hosted me in some way, and when I'm there, I'm going to buy a dinner. I'm going to certain you know, I'm going to do that there, you know, Yeah, I'm going to bring something into the house. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna make my you know, I don't have to do anything major, but that's you know, oftentimes when you are staying with somebody, uh, there's reasons, so they're you know whether or not. It's like I'm not affording a hotel, so you got to figure out a way to give back. But they were there for a long time, right, I think, yeah, I think they're thinking about this the wrong way. How so they're thinking about it as an individual gift. Like he likes Jurassic Park and surfing, she likes reading and cooking. These are bland things. Okay, you were there, what did you think? I think they need it right? Yeah, Like for example, now I don't know what you're gonna spend, but I'm just gonna put a couple of things on the table. This is how I would look at it. Did they have a PlayStation and they like playing PlayStation and then now you know the PlayStation five's out, that may be a fun thing. Did they have a Now this is a very big gift, but depending if you have a costco membership might not be a bad Like did they have an old TV and they were like, oh, we're gonna get around to getting a new TV. Again, demanding on how long if they're there for like two or three months? Like if it's like rent right, yeah, Like, so I think you have to think about the house and the setting of it, like oh they love to grill, do they have an egg? Do they have a a pizza oven? Or whether like there are ways to think of it, but you have to go like I was there, I was in the space. What were the complaints, what were the wants? 00:54:53 Speaker 2: What you're describing as just passive aggression. 00:54:56 Speaker 3: Well, no, because I think if you came to my house you would hear certain things like I would say, oh, you know, well because it's hard because they just buy the things that I want. But like for you know, but like for example, if you saw me having trouble putting something into a thing, you'd be like, oh, maybe I should get this guy funnel, like you know, or or or we joked about it like oh yeahs buy those funnels. Like you gotta think I think a nice because people are doing it at the courtesy of their own self. But there also is like a niceness of saying they're doing it because they want to be nice. They're not doing it because they want something. But if you saw a moment, if you had an interaction where they said, oh you should get this or you get it, you know, then it's like then you got them the thing like you got to get a slow cooker. Oh yeah, I've never been able to for it. A slow cooker boom, so cooker comes in the mail. Like it doesn't have to be big, it just has to be unique and specific to something that you experience. And that's why whenever they use that rice cooker, they'll think of you because they're like, we said it and he remembered it and that way right. 00:55:54 Speaker 2: So I think this just comes down to this Amy character. Let's pray to God that she was listening to these people and paying attention while she was in the home. 00:56:03 Speaker 3: Well that's what you need to do. And you got a thing. If you haven't, you got to think about it and you got to go back and you got it. But you gotta look. And everybody talks about something. I mean I literally had I literally uh literally had a uh you know, like like what I was gonna say, I'm sorry, I'm like I just lost my own and my own passion of it. Like you, like you will always have these conversations about what you want, Like I had a conversation about the air fire the other night, and like do I want one? But if you got me one? After I had that conversation. Sure, I take it. 00:56:34 Speaker 2: I'd take an air frier any day of the week. I still have no idea what they are, but I'm just ready to be part of the conversation. I think that's not a bad idea. And look, if she wasn't paying any attention, this is what I'm going to say. Send a couple of robes. Nobody can complain about a robe. 00:56:52 Speaker 3: Oh, I like that. 00:56:53 Speaker 2: Somebody gave me a gift for a robe a couple of years ago, almost as a joke. I'm wearing it every single day at this point. So send them a rowbes. Who cares. Maybe it's got their name stitched into it or something. I feel like that's a nice, you know, luxury that no one buys for themselves. And I'll enjoy it, you. 00:57:10 Speaker 3: Know, I like to look a robe is is very personal. Baby, gave me a nice one. 00:57:17 Speaker 2: This person's been living with these people, Okay, she's essentially the third spouse. Let's just get into and send them some robes. Amy, that's what you have to do. Ignore everything that Paul has just said. Send a couple of robes, maybe some slippers. Nobody can complain about these things and it increases their their life quality by one thousand percent. Amen, Paul, thank you so much for being here. It was a pleasure, and I hope you use those funnels. These funnels are going to are extremely handy already I'm going to be using them all the time. God bless you well. 00:57:49 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, and happy twenty twenty. 00:57:53 Speaker 2: Here we are twenty twenty one. Everyone, This is the end of the podcast. Move on to with your life into the new year and do your thing. I'll talk to you soon. Bye bye. I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's engineered by our dear friend Annalise Nelson and the theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said No Gifts. That's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me. And why not leave a review while you're there. 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