1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 3: Welcome to you, and that's what you really miss podcast. Today, 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 3: we have a very special gleek. It's DJ Bob Bruncle. 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 3: DJ Bob Brunkle. You will learn knows everything about everything, 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 3: and when I mean everything about everything. Our jaws were 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: on the ground midway through this episode, so I never 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: got put back up. 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: I truly am just in awe of him, and I 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: also am intimidated by She'll learn And we are super 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: excited for you guys to hear this episode. And yeah, 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 3: he's really incredible, So. 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: I'm in awe. Yeah, we're big fans over here, big 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: big advance. You're not gonna want to miss this episode. 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, Hello. 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: Look at that hat. 18 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 4: Captain Crew hat right there? 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: Oh my god, what did you already have? 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 4: What can I share? 21 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: Welcome? 22 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you Bob so much for being here. We 23 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: are newbies at this podcasting thing. Compared to you, you 24 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: are a veteran, and so thank you for letting us 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: into your medium. 26 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 4: You know, it's funny because everybody says, you know, you're 27 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 4: a pioneer. You've been doing this for a year, can like, 28 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 4: but now we keep like the podcasting world has blown up. 29 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you had your Yeah, you had your 30 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: exactly you knew what was going to happen. How did 31 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: you How did you start podcasting? Actually, originally because you 32 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: did start the idea. 33 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 4: Come, I was a pop culture nerd. I was the 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 4: kid who would would camp out at the store to 35 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 4: buy no string attached on release day. Yes, and you know, 36 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 4: because of my physical disability, pop culture was really my 37 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 4: way in to the world. So instead of like being 38 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 4: sad about it, I thought, what could I do and 39 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 4: just do a show based on what I love? 40 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, for sure. And you've had some amazing guests. 41 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: You recently had one of my good friends, David Archieleta 42 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: on Yeah. 43 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 4: That was fun, very exciting. 44 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, speaking of I mean pop culture. Grew up 45 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: with him on American Idol. 46 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 4: Saw me fantastic, It's so good. 47 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: I totally I ran into him on Saturday night and 48 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: was totally just being a fan. I was like, David, 49 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 2: this new song is great, so good. 50 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: It's very different for him. 51 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 52 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 53 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: I feel like the joy of the pop culture world 54 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 3: is that it's ever changing, ever evolving, and there's always 55 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: something new for you to cover and to become a fan. 56 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 4: Because I do a lot of like children's entertainment. I 57 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 4: know the Session three people, I know pretty much anybody 58 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 4: that you grew up with. For the past thirty five years, 59 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 4: I've probably spoken to every once. 60 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: Well wow, well you know I was on Sesame. 61 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 4: I do know. 62 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: As the pop culture guru over here. 63 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: See, I always say I have always had so much 64 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,839 Speaker 2: useless pop culture information in my head. But I think 65 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: I have clearly been beaten. This is I am nothing 66 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:13,839 Speaker 2: compared to Bob I know too much information, no such thing. 67 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: Have you watched Celebrity Jeopardy? 68 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: Yes, because my brother turned me on to it, who 69 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 3: is a big pop culture drunkie as well, and he 70 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 3: knows like a lot of a lot of really great information, 71 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: and all. 72 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 4: Told me to audition for that yeah culture Jeopardy thing, 73 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 4: and yeah, I couldn't get in. 74 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: Oh no, I feel like they were like, he's she 75 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: just knows too much. 76 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: He would have ripped them all. 77 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: But it's really fun and it's very it's very pop 78 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: culture from me. 79 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so obviously you're a Glee fan. 80 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, tell us about how you discovered it, where you 81 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: were like, what like in time and just tell us 82 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 3: about the first time and your experience like seeing Glee. 83 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 4: I could tell you specifically because it would be night. 84 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: One premiere wow wow og. 85 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 4: And I was telling you how all my pop culture 86 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 4: world collided. Glee was really at the forefront of everything 87 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 4: pop culture more than any other show I feel, because 88 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 4: it was all encompassing and and Glee came at a 89 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 4: point where I was in eighth no seventh grade when 90 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 4: the finaliated or when the when the premiere happened, So 91 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 4: it was very much I grew, I grew with it, 92 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,679 Speaker 4: and definitely it's been with me for that long. 93 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 3: Crazy and tell tell me about seeing Artie for the 94 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 3: first time in the show. 95 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 4: That was cool. Thank you and people here. When I 96 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: when I do interviews with people, people asked me if 97 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 4: I was ever like offended because you weren't in a chair. 98 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 4: I reached a kapiti the representation. I didn't care. I mean, 99 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 4: I knew you. I even knew you before, like I 100 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 4: knew from n l T. I go like, I have 101 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 4: a story about that. 102 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: My god, we share this. 103 00:06:53,760 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 4: We met before during n LT. 104 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: Where did we meet? 105 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: So one of my influences at the time was another 106 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 4: radio show for children on AOL and they had a 107 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: deal with Geffen Ye have any of their talent would 108 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 4: appear on the show by default and if we and 109 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 4: I think all the memories were on, but you were 110 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 4: the only one that actually like really struck a conversation 111 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 4: with me. And I always appreciated that. Oh wow, it's 112 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 4: funny that we're connecting now. 113 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: That is wild. Oh my god, yeah, it's so good. 114 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 4: And that was that week, like maybe four years before 115 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 4: I started the show. 116 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: Wow, that is my mind is blown. Yeah, that is crazy. 117 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: And then happened and You're like, I already know this guy. 118 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, wow it. 119 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: Kill full heircle thing because I saw you as already. 120 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, we're being represented in a way every single week, right, 121 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 4: It wasn't just a bit character. It wasn't just the 122 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 4: butt of the joke. You were telling stories that mattered 123 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: m M. And while I wish that there was more representation, 124 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 4: I mean you had I was stroker and later on, 125 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 4: but the week a good way in because people could 126 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: he already and then they could ask me questioning the 127 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 4: next day because they could relate to it. 128 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: That's really it means a lot to hear that from you, 129 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: and I remember like the numerous conversations that we all 130 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: had with Ryan about that as well, and that was 131 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: his whole thing. It was just to make sure that 132 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: the important thing was that the character was represented and 133 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: was a fully fledged person and a real pon like 134 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: what you said, wasn't just coming in and out just 135 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: to be the quote unquote like token person. 136 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: Yeah whatever, cause they didn't have they did you. There 137 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 4: were never a very special episode of Glee, Like, there 138 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 4: were never like a very special like we have to 139 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 4: write the copio because yeah, yeah, there behind everything. 140 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: So I'm curious when because there was a lot of 141 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 3: back and forth when we went on tour about Kevin 142 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: doing safety Dance on tour, partially I think because I 143 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 3: don't think Ryan was like, oh, that's one of the 144 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 3: songs we should do on the tour like, but more specifically, 145 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 3: we wanted Kevin to be able to show off his 146 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 3: chops as an eve a buddy person who can dance, 147 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 3: and also a number that was important to the character 148 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 3: on the show. I'm curious for you to see the 149 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: representation of that character then stand up and do that. 150 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: What was that? What was your thinking when you saw. 151 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 4: That that was really the impetus behind me wanting to 152 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: walk across the stage at my high school graduation because 153 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 4: I saw that and I had been thinking about wanting 154 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 4: to do it for several years, probably think like third 155 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 4: or fourth grade. 156 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: Wow, But that was. 157 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 4: The moment where I said, oh, if he can do it, 158 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 4: I can, even though it's a character. Was very much 159 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 4: like the day after that, I went to my physical 160 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 4: therapist and said, I don't know what we have to do, 161 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 4: but I want to walk across the stage at my 162 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 4: high school graduation. And that led to me going to 163 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 4: high school and training for the next three and a half, 164 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 4: four a year or whatever. 165 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: It was Wow, and you did it, and you did it? 166 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 4: Did you actually? 167 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: Yes? 168 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 3: Congratulations, that's incredible. 169 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: I'm so happy you sent that video. It was emotional 170 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: and it was just it's not every day, you know. 171 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: I think when we did the show and you get to, 172 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 2: like you said, b representation for a certain group of people. 173 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: We all were and I don't know, to hear from you, 174 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: to see how much you got from the show and 175 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 2: from the character, and to take your own initiative and 176 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: you know, do whatever you wanted based off of that 177 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: and to grow and be better than already could ever be. 178 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: It is sort of it's it's unimaginable and it yeah, 179 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: it's really beautiful. 180 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 4: And I and I never told anybody that it wore 181 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 4: because you're already because it never that never really waits 182 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 4: the goal yet. But it was okay because a lot 183 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 4: of people that are able bodied shaw me as oh, 184 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 4: he kind of plays your safe. So when I graduated 185 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 4: in Haikol, I wanted to make a point to let 186 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 4: people know that back not the case right and that 187 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 4: I just I wanted to do something a little different. 188 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: What's really inspiring. 189 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 3: I I'm sure you learned a lot about yourself in 190 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 3: that process. Yeah, Like like you said, like Lartie was 191 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: the impetus to give you the confidence or to give 192 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: you the idea even for you to find the confidence 193 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: in yourself to do that, to be able to work 194 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: so hard and train for that long to do this 195 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: this thing, that that was your goal. 196 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 4: And I didn't realize how much you know, planning there 197 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 4: would be. There was I had to meet with the principal, 198 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 4: I had to you know, coordinate everything and it was 199 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 4: just like they didn't say no, they said you want 200 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 4: to do this, We're going to make sure that this 201 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 4: happens for you. And you know what he even funnier 202 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 4: is that on that day I had not to grow 203 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 4: anybody out, but on that day I had an ingrown toeenail. 204 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, which made it ten times more painful. But 205 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: you still do it. And I just had to because 206 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 4: I couldn't give up just because of that thing. 207 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: You know, like three and a half years isn't going 208 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: down the pipes for. 209 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: This, which which is really hard in general. 210 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: So like that is just I just commend and applaud 211 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: you for the I don't know, just for how how much, 212 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: how deep you had to dig probably in some harder 213 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: times in order to do this. 214 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 4: And yeah, but it even it even it even comes 215 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 4: through with the podcast too because people could see me. 216 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 4: It's like, oh, I'm just doing this as you know, 217 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 4: just a way to talk to people that like just 218 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 4: does a kind of a make a wish kind of approach. No, 219 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 4: I just love it. But I just happen to have 220 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 4: a disability that kid. 221 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: Right, Well, again, you're just like you're amazing. I'm so 222 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: inspired by you. I uh and you're hilarious. But let's 223 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: talk about I want to I want to hear more 224 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 3: about your your glee uh, your glee thoughts? 225 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: Can you obviously we know that you have. 226 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: You love you know already is a character that really 227 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: resonates with you. I'm curious what other characters and storylines 228 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: resonate with you that you really liked or found yourself 229 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: kind of being drawn to. And also on the flip side, 230 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: which ones you felt were like the most unhinge and 231 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: you hated, if you hated any I'm will. 232 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 4: Say that, I mean, I I really I really liked 233 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 4: the the inclusion of Warren's character I love Becky. 234 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: Yes, oh my god, which is so funny. 235 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 4: But on the other side of it, I really loved that. 236 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 4: Do you know you guys really took a lot of 237 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 4: swings as far as things that wanting to be okay 238 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 4: today as you've as you've made known on this podcast. 239 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 4: But I think is the most kind of unhinged storyline 240 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 4: for me. It starts at the beginning and it's the 241 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 4: whole episode with don't stand still close to Me and 242 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 4: the sting the zoo. 243 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I still does that. 244 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 4: I can't get right. 245 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah that's fair. It's definitely uncomfortable. 246 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 4: And also I know they are more unhinged the story 247 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 4: as here goes on, and I'll get to one of 248 00:17:54,200 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 4: them because I've got some intel. Yeah it's pretty crazy, 249 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 4: but I think, yeah, I mean, unhinged they are, but 250 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 4: I love them very much. 251 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 2: That was sort of the beginning of the We didn't 252 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 2: know what the show was going to be, and then 253 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 2: all of a sudden you have that storyline like, oh, 254 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: this feels a little different. This is where we're going. 255 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like a lot of my favorite episodes 256 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 4: are generally hated. One really what which puppetmaster? Let me 257 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 4: tell you why. I I'm I'm like I said, I'm 258 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 4: friends with a lot of the people, and as you know, Jenna, 259 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 4: the puppetry world is kind of small, yes, so everybody 260 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 4: knows each other. So I knew a lot of the 261 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 4: puppeteers on that shoe. 262 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: Wow and Wow. 263 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 4: So when that happened, they were telling me about you 264 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 4: gotta watch this thing. So I had the whole other 265 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 4: like connection to it. That makes it kind of coold 266 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 4: for me. 267 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: Yeah he had. Oh wow, that definitely makes sense. 268 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 4: To make To make it even funnier, A couple years ago, 269 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 4: I got to talk to the guy that built your puppet. 270 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: What excuse me, we never had like access to those 271 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: types of people. 272 00:19:58,720 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: What did he say? 273 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 3: Yes? 274 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: How was everything? 275 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 4: Well? First I told him that he if he could 276 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 4: get me in touch with you guys, and he didn't 277 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 4: have any intel, but that worked out. But apparently they 278 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 4: were sold that some auction like a fan had been 279 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 4: now or something like that. 280 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we met somebody has quite a few of them. 281 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: We wanted them, but they wouldn't give them to us, 282 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: and they said they were really expensive and they were auctioned off. 283 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 4: I jokingly asked him to make me a replica, and 284 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 4: he was like, no, it. 285 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: Must be really hard. 286 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 4: No, he said, you know when I heard that you 287 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 4: had this been dead ShaSS distain for this when I'm 288 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 4: like and I like it, No, I don't. 289 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm actually it's. 290 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 4: Not my favorite episode. My favorite episode is Wheels. Yeah, 291 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 4: I think perfect storytelling and just yes, wonderful, but puppet 292 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 4: Master is nowhere near my favorite episode. But just give 293 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 4: it a little more love. 294 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 3: I understand see the way you now you put it 295 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: that way the perspective of I'm actually sad that these 296 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 3: puppet masters and puppeteers got kind of overlooked by this 297 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 3: crazy episode that we had right this like fairly unhinged 298 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: episode that we had. 299 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: There were some really good things. 300 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 3: That came out of that episode, obviously, like really good 301 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 3: things came of that episode. But and the puppeteers were amazing, 302 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 3: and those puppets were so cool. 303 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: It was just, yeah, it was a dark time. 304 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: They came in at a hard time that that wasn't 305 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: their fault. And when we watched it again recently, I 306 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: liked it a lot more. 307 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 4: Than are we happy for you? 308 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: Thank you? I was too. I didn't like harboring any 309 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 2: sort of ill will towards the episode, and it did 310 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: surprise me. And I'm thankful that I liked it a 311 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: lot more than I no. 312 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 4: If I can, I have a question for the both 313 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 4: of you, ask away. So I know that you guys 314 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 4: are in King Feng, Yeah, show me too. And because 315 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 4: of that, what in King Kong? That why hint hingle? 316 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 4: Would you like? Would you have liked on greekl I. 317 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: Just said, I got a look now I have I 318 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: have so many answers I have, so I have one 319 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: for you that wasn't a single What a great question. 320 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 4: Because we could do we could do that. It could 321 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 4: be me all day, but it cannot know. 322 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I really like do your thing? 323 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, my pick for you with y'all hell from Caelebrity 324 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 4: and it already doing up against the wall. 325 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: Yes, that was absolutely top three for me. 326 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 4: Oh so fun. And I feel like a music of 327 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 4: my heart would be fun. 328 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, such a you're bringing me back right now. 329 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: This is bringing me so much joy. I have to 330 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: go listen to. 331 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 2: It would have been so much fun the whole. 332 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 4: Like I also think like it makes me it would 333 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 4: be fun. 334 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: Yes, oh god, that would have been. 335 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: It makes me. I would have been insane. 336 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: That would have been. 337 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 4: But what but would you guys have done the whole 338 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 4: no stringe? Would you guys merged with like no stringed 339 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: or something like that? 340 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: I would have been I think we should have done 341 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: a full yeah, like we could have done a full 342 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: boy band episode. I mean I would have loved to. 343 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 4: You wouldn't have You wouldn't have had room for the 344 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 4: true deeper cook. 345 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: No, you're right, I mean you're that would have been great. 346 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 4: I'm a collector. I've got all the stuff right here. 347 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 2: Oh my god, the best one, I'm so mad the 348 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 2: Christmas album. You have the actual CD and Kevin but 349 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: there was we were in some studio and somebody has 350 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: the plaque for the Christmas album. 351 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 4: Oh. 352 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 2: We never got like a platinum plaque for I. I. I, 353 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 2: you know, I correct plaque and. 354 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 4: Stuff like that. 355 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 2: Do you So. 356 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 4: I've been on the hunt for one. 357 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: Too, Okay, if you find one, because I saw one 358 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: in a studio. I don't know where. It was a 359 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: recording studio. It was either Chalice or it was this 360 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 2: other place I know. 361 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 3: And Kenny we saw one in London as well that 362 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 3: we when we were in London that they gave. You 363 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: were so mad we didn't get. 364 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 2: We took pictures with it when it went platinum and. 365 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 4: One there one when your like Me went gold and 366 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 4: it was like a swashy one. 367 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I think you're right. 368 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: I think you're right. 369 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 2: I think you are right. 370 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 4: There was also like ripped out too. 371 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 3: So there was an O to award that we because 372 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 3: we're selling out the O two for two weeks straight 373 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 3: that we all got and Kevin and I never got ours. 374 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: But it's a it's a standing slushy with the slushy 375 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 3: coming out. 376 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: Of it too, and we never got it. 377 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 3: It's one I've got plaques on this Wall for like 378 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 3: dream Street and. 379 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 4: The Lake McGuire soundtrack. 380 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: I have dream Street, Greg and Jasey. 381 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 4: I got to talk there for the podcast you did. 382 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: I did Broadway Kids with Greg, so I've known Greg 383 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: since I. 384 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: Was like twelve. 385 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy. Oh my gosh, Okay. 386 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: This is wonderful. I love it also, like we grew 387 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: up like liking all of the exact same things. 388 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, here's the thing. My oldest sister is seven years 389 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 4: older than me. So when I was five six years old, yes, 390 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 4: I was watching Nicolone and all that fun stuff, but 391 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 4: I was watching t R too, totally. I lived through 392 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 4: all of it. 393 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 2: Yes, I had much older siblings itself. I love that 394 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: because you do get this breadth of like knowledge and 395 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 2: pop culture information and exposure. 396 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 4: But it was such a good time for pop culture, 397 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 4: and I feel like back to Glee. Glee was the 398 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 4: last pop culture juggernaut of a kind like that, like 399 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 4: you had you had like how many albums did you have? Albums? 400 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 4: Not even and like the contract tour and like I 401 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 4: never got to go. I'm so bummed about it. But 402 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 4: again you always say when like that, he can make 403 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 4: it up for right now? 404 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: Are there other TV? 405 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 3: Shows that you watch that you liked in the vein 406 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 3: of Glee that had like a pop culture influence on 407 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 3: the world. 408 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 4: I I think one of my other favorite shows a 409 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 4: little earlier was ship Bring of the Teenage. 410 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: Which, oh yeah, too good. 411 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 4: If that really had a pop culture into it. 412 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, now, Gilmore Girls, that's my favorite show the. 413 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 3: Okay, I knew this because Amy Sherman Palladino is the 414 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: queen of pop culture references. 415 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: So there's like easter eggs every there. 416 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, and that was that. There's only two shows. 417 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 4: There's only like three shows that I've ever fully been 418 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 4: like that wasn't a limited Cirie and a week Glee 419 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 4: and with Gilmore and How I Met Your Mother? 420 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: Oh wow, good company there. 421 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: Yeah that's right. 422 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: How many have you watched how many times have you 423 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: watched Glee like the full series? Do you know? 424 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 4: Maybe like six times? 425 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: Oh wow? 426 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 4: And I go there. I will say there are episodes, 427 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 4: and I don't think you've ever acted on the podcast. 428 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 4: I'll just go let it out there. There are episodes 429 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 4: that I go back to because they're comforting to me. 430 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, what are some of your comfort episodes? 431 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 4: Like Dreams Come True? 432 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 433 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 4: And people arguing, Kay, the two thousand and nine should 434 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 4: have really been the cap off, but I really like 435 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 4: dreams Come True and how it how Yeah, but everything 436 00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 4: up a little bit. And another controversial one that I 437 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 4: have that made our mutual friend Andrew from the Week 438 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 4: of the Week shocked is moving out. Really I go 439 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 4: on that episode because of already storyline with Becky. I 440 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 4: think that is show that that much so cool for you, 441 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 4: Kevin to be with that, be with that class and 442 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 4: that group of people. It's just because that's the kind 443 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 4: of school that I went to before I went to 444 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 4: public school. Wow, I really connected with that. 445 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the best storyline in the episode. 446 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: I really enjoyed that. And it was one of those 447 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: things too where it's like, how lucky are we to 448 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: be on a show that we get to have this 449 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: as a storyline because that just wasn't a thing that 450 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: was happening on television like that, And you know, for 451 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: all of its ups and downs of the show and 452 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: the crazy storylines and unhinged things like Ryan Brad and 453 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: Ian really had sort of that like I don't know, compass, 454 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: So like we are showing these things because they obviously 455 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: exist and it's not right that they're not being shown. 456 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: And and we're very aware of the the reach and 457 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: the platform that they had on network television on talks 458 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 2: to be able to. 459 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 4: With the last show to do that. 460 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: So you that's it. Nobody else has done this if. 461 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 4: You look there. There was a show on ABC a 462 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 4: couple of years back called mm hmm and Where You 463 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 4: Shit Calm. It was multi cam and yep, it acted 464 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 4: you know, three seasons, but then but then we had 465 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 4: to wait again for representation again. Yeah, it's like when 466 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 4: we have it, it goes your. 467 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: Way, which is like a problem that. 468 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 4: Nobody that's I know, that's the business, but you know 469 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 4: when it when it comes down to it, like it's 470 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 4: just like you know, seeing you know, a person of color, 471 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 4: Like we want more of it. 472 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's life, that's real life being. 473 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 2: And there's no reason why they can't be involved in everything. Yes, 474 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: like those storylines and those characters, like it's it's it's 475 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 2: not right that we have you have to wait for 476 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 2: like a special project. It's like one TV show that 477 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 2: right exactly fills the void as opposed. 478 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 3: And then it's off and then you have to wait 479 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 3: again for something else that's the problem. 480 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 4: I mean, there are very few things. I mean, I 481 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 4: got there is this brilliant movie that Disney did, like 482 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 4: a coming of age young adult movie called Out of 483 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 4: My Mind, and I got to do publicity for that, 484 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 4: and you know even that like that, that can movie 485 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 4: that will live on forever. But when the next thing? 486 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: Right, that was one movie? 487 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: Right? Very how have you? How has I mean, even 488 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: though representation seems pretty infrequent, have you noticed a change? 489 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 2: I guess you know since Glee, Like let's say, the 490 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: like me getting hired to play already would not fly 491 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:41,959 Speaker 2: today and rightly so. And do you think like representation 492 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 2: in that way has changed. 493 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 4: I think I think people are. I think it's gotten better, 494 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 4: but it's still not the norm. Right yeah, right now. 495 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that every character has to be in 496 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 4: a share. If you've got the chop and if you've 497 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 4: done it, if you've done enough research, if if you 498 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 4: have the tools to do it, then you couldn't do it. 499 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think it's necessarily all that bad 500 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 4: because you're only the representation is there. That's what matters 501 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 4: to me. 502 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 2: For sure. You have such a deep understanding of like 503 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: pop culture and always. It's clearly not just TV or 504 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: film or music, it's everything. And it's amazing that you 505 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 2: share that with people because you clearly like you think 506 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: about these things deeply and you are able to take 507 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: a encyclopaedia. 508 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I would love to have you guys both 509 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 4: on the podcast. 510 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 2: I would love to come on and just talk pop 511 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 2: culture with you. Do you ever do you like do 512 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 2: places call to consult your opinion about things? Because like you, 513 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 2: oh so much? 514 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 4: They I mean, I've got sometimes people ask me. I 515 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 4: mean a couple years ago, I got to work with 516 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 4: the Fred Rogers production people, got to work with mister 517 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 4: Rogers team on some stuff, and they told me that 518 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 4: they use one of my interviews as a guide in 519 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 4: one of their production meetings, and I was like. 520 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 3: Wow, excuse me, wow, I am, I am, but. 521 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 4: But it literally just like the thing I always say 522 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 4: to people is this, I always say when I have 523 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 4: these conversations with you, I don't I don't expect you 524 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 4: to go in the next day and change your script 525 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 4: automatically because of something that I said. MM, but if 526 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 4: I could change your perspective for at least one second, 527 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 4: then I've done my job. 528 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 2: To get ready to look at it. 529 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 3: Do you have because I have more Glee questions for 530 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 3: you because. 531 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: The music element was in there. 532 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 3: I feel like music is such a huge part of 533 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 3: your encyclopedia. That must have been like so exciting for 534 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 3: you each week because in. 535 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: Addition to you know, the show itself. 536 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 4: No, and it was, I mean I would. I'm looking 537 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,439 Speaker 4: through my collection of being to dig out and all 538 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 4: my Glee music aside from this one is in storage, 539 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 4: and I was so like, I didn't realize how much 540 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 4: I had because I there's a lot of stuff. I 541 00:36:54,640 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 4: had everything. Wow. But I think I'm gonna get be 542 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 4: a couple of my favorite songs because I think they're 543 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 4: they're the unexpected one. 544 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, after you throw a pupa master already. Yeah, 545 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 2: I'm ready for it. 546 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 4: And I think my Love is your Love is one 547 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 4: of them. 548 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 2: Yes, he gets it. 549 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 4: Well, you gotta you gotta, you gotta remember the time 550 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 4: period that I. 551 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 2: Talk about right there, Yep, exactly. 552 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 4: That's right there. Yeah, I love never going back again. 553 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: Yes, best one of your favor Here's. 554 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 4: A random one that I really liked that a lot 555 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 4: of people don't talk about. Not because it's bad. I 556 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 4: honestly don't know why, but I think it happened after 557 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 4: we are young by fun blow up. For you guys, 558 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 4: every indie band wanted their song featured on Glee And 559 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 4: here's another one. This is the New Years. 560 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 3: Agree is yes, this is a finger on the pulse again. 561 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 4: But I need to ask you your opinion on Oh 562 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 4: you're like maybe because what's version? Do you? What are 563 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 4: your opinion on the song in general? Because I mean 564 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 4: Max Martin is working with you guys on it, and yes, 565 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 4: write it. You know it's a pop hit. I mean radio, 566 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 4: you've got radio airplay with it. But what do you 567 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 4: guys think of it? 568 00:38:52,160 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 2: Honestly, we we didn't love it. We and as someone 569 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 2: who we all grew up in the dawn of Max 570 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 2: Martin pop music, so favorite producer of all time, I 571 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 2: think we were concerned about the level of you know, 572 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 2: we're doing all these classic songs that already hits and 573 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 2: that's what people know us for, and they're phenomenal songs, 574 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 2: and then I think for us it was hard to 575 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 2: then square that with singing about like I'll call you 576 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 2: back when I'm your boss. Yeah, like the lyrics of it, 577 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 2: and we like had to sit down with Ryan, because 578 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 2: we were all so worried about it. We cared so much, 579 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 2: and we're like, we were out of our minds. I 580 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 2: don't know why we thought we were, like the audacity 581 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: of us, and Ryan was sort of no, I believe 582 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 2: we're doing it, and so my thoughts about it now 583 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 2: are very different. But the. 584 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 4: Production wise it top tier production. 585 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 2: Love the production totally. 586 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: I think. I think for me, this is where I 587 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 1: thought you. 588 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 2: Were going with this, Kevin. 589 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 3: We were doing, Yes, we were doing top forty. We 590 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 3: were doing a lot of Max Martin. Obviously he produces 591 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 3: on everything. We were also doing like Queen, like Bohemian 592 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 3: Rhapsody and some and Somebody to Love and like Journey, 593 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:37,720 Speaker 3: but exactly so, we're doing these really cool rock pop, 594 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 3: you know, hits that were so different and then putting 595 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 3: our spin on it, and I feel like that was 596 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 3: like exciting to people who had been a fan of 597 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 3: those and then also you know, introducing these for the 598 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 3: first time to younger generations with loser like me, it 599 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 3: felt a little too bubblegum pop for what we were 600 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 3: doing and the level of work we were doing it at. 601 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 3: Production wise, I thought it was great, and obviously I'm gonna. 602 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 4: I'm going to kind of act that okay my opinion 603 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 4: because I think it is it was done at the 604 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 4: perfect time for you, because I think the only I'm 605 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,240 Speaker 4: ancule radio NERD to the point where I know charge 606 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 4: can you know? 607 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 2: And I think we are so similar. 608 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 4: I think the only the only stations that we're playing 609 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 4: you guys were a C station. True, and I think 610 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 4: having the audience of GUI at the time. This was 611 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 4: season two, so the show kind of skewed more to 612 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 4: a teen audience. Yeah, right, what do teen audience? He's 613 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 4: listened to top forty radio. 614 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 2: This sme day. 615 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 4: That's right? Where So the song was right where I 616 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 4: needed to be Lyrically, Yeah, I agree to it all 617 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 4: here and or there, but it's like I feel, I 618 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:24,760 Speaker 4: think it's a perfect song. 619 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 3: Wow, So what did you think about the one hundred version? Then? 620 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: Are we confusing because you love the original so much? 621 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 2: That's what I'm not. 622 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 4: Even that like. First of all, like Blaine doesn't even 623 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 4: know the song. In the episode of season two, how 624 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 4: did he get how did he how did he how 625 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 4: did he suddenly hear this? 626 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome to Lee, This is Glee. 627 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 2: I said, you're a deep thinker about these things, and 628 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 2: you sometimes glee. You can't. 629 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't go too deep or you'll run yourself 630 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 3: into the ground. 631 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 2: I will also say, like, this is why you should 632 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 2: be consulted on pop culture things like shows and stuff, 633 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 2: because your opinion is exactly what Ryan and Adamanders and 634 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 2: they were all right about, and we were all very wrong. 635 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:33,240 Speaker 2: It's also you're right. It fits with the time period 636 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 2: for us, the demo for us, and the lyrics we 637 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 2: were writing our own songs as sixteen year old characters, 638 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 2: so amazing. 639 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 4: It's really funny because you can probably guess one of 640 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:53,359 Speaker 4: my favorite episode of your podcast is Adamanders back Top two, 641 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 4: but I think one of the one that I really 642 00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 4: loved with Joe Early. 643 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,720 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, of course, because. 644 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 4: For my podcast, a big part of my brand is 645 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,919 Speaker 4: just branding and and and and esthetic and what do 646 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 4: I want my audience to seem m Because you truth 647 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 4: be told, a lot of people saw me as a 648 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 4: preschool television kids show guy because a lot of that 649 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 4: stuff was what I covered in the beginning to game 650 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 4: back to what I could get. And now the episode 651 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 4: that I just really was with Tricia with Marley's mom, 652 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 4: we just we just recorded with her a couple of 653 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 4: months ago. We had a lot to talk about from 654 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 4: the special education angle, of course, But I but my 655 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 4: point in king that is, I'm not just one thing. 656 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 2: Yep, yep, that's right. 657 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 4: And yeah, I think it confuses a lot of people 658 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 4: when I'll cover something like Glee or my other favorite, 659 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 4: my other favorite TV show of all time is the 660 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 4: Mary Tyler Moore show. 661 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:36,919 Speaker 3: Best I Shall Be Ever what a great Oh my god, yes, yes. 662 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:41,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's it's not one thing. 663 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. And then that's what yeah, And I mean, 664 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 2: that's nobody is just one thing. And it's so easy 665 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 2: to put everybody in some bocks in a box, especially 666 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:59,280 Speaker 2: when they don't know about a different persons like life, yeah, 667 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 2: and what they have to go through. It's like, well, 668 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 2: in my head, you're easier to understand if I reduce 669 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 2: you to this very oversimplified version that I have in 670 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 2: my head, right because I have no context and just 671 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 2: talking to you for the past forty five minutes, all 672 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 2: the different things that you know about and like like that, 673 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 2: that's you can't put that into any sort of box. 674 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 2: But that's what makes a person great and worth knowing 675 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 2: and worth listening to fifteen hundred episodes of a podcast 676 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 2: I have. 677 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 4: I have how many questions for you? But I don't 678 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:30,720 Speaker 4: want to take. 679 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:31,760 Speaker 2: Up no ask away? 680 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: Ask away, Like do you feel like. 681 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 4: When you think of God, I am merchandise conglomerate that 682 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,760 Speaker 4: it was what what is your favorite peek of merch 683 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 4: that you guys have? 684 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 2: Oh man, there was so much. 685 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 4: There's actually the most ridiculous, like really it can endoring 686 00:46:59,160 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 4: your life? 687 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 2: Why we I For me, it was my parents still 688 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 2: have this in their pantry. It was a real like 689 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 2: I stopped in my tracks and I was like, oh 690 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 2: my god, this show is really big moment in the 691 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 2: grocery store and we were on like a Ritz Cracker box. 692 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 2: I remember that, yeah, And it was one of those 693 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 2: things where like I'm just chopping, going about my business 694 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 2: and I look up and there's our faces on a 695 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 2: Ritz Cracker box and like you know, like like Olympians 696 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 2: being on whedies and all these things things that like 697 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 2: to me being obsessed with pop culture like you or like, 698 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 2: those are significant like markers of that success. 699 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 4: That your equivalent of the back Boys having that burger 700 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,399 Speaker 4: that burger king meal. 701 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, that's right. 702 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 3: Were we being character on this box? Yes, this is crazy. 703 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 3: I there's so many things that like, we didn't even 704 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,280 Speaker 3: know about. We didn't know we were on. I remember 705 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 3: getting Awei at the time we was really popular. 706 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: I had the game and the game and then I 707 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 1: don't know. 708 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 3: If this was soul or if this was special because 709 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 3: we were on it. They sent us we systems with 710 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 3: our Glee picture on the side. 711 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be completely nerdy here for 712 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 4: a second. That video game system is the only video 713 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 4: game system that I can play by my show because 714 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 4: you're to help the shability friendly. 715 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. 716 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 4: So when so when I saw you guys were when 717 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 4: a karaoke game and we going We and the Switch too. 718 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 4: I love the Switch. 719 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 2: Yes, but they didn't have to like run those things 720 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 2: by us, like the merch. We had no idea, so 721 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 2: we didn't like. Yeah, I didn't know until I was 722 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:07,919 Speaker 2: in a grocery store. 723 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 4: Do you wish do you wish that you've had a. 724 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,879 Speaker 2: Doll kind of Yeah, Yeah, that would have been cool. 725 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 3: People made them the pops, which I see some in 726 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,399 Speaker 3: your behind you. 727 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,439 Speaker 4: I have a two hundred of them. 728 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm not. 729 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 3: We had a wonderful fan who made us our ardientina pops. 730 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 2: I have mine, Dad. 731 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 4: I'm hoping that they were lease somebody licenses them, because 732 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 4: yeah I will. I will get those big one. 733 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 1: I know I would do. 734 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,359 Speaker 2: Actually, we don't. All those characters will look so cute 735 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 2: as punk o pop. 736 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 4: I know, no, are we thinking of are thinking of 737 00:49:54,239 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 4: fun little nostalgic crossover questions. So if the Glee cast, 738 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 4: how the hit clip? Remember hit clip? 739 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, no, what is it? He's too old? 740 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god? 741 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:19,240 Speaker 4: It a little micro how how big bore. 742 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,760 Speaker 2: Hipp I mean it was pretty big. 743 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 4: No, it was like a we like something on a 744 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 4: key chain. 745 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 2: Oh I think you meant like how famous it was, 746 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,840 Speaker 2: because oh yeah, it was like a little It was 747 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 2: almost like a. 748 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 1: Look, I don't know what, oh like a little yeah. 749 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 4: So and it only played like what thirty seconds for 750 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 4: a minute of a song? Yes, oh my god, what 751 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 4: song do you think? Obviously don't stop right, but are 752 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 4: there any others that that you think would make the. 753 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,760 Speaker 2: Cut as like a Glee merch hip clip? 754 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, for for something like this. 755 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 3: I feel like Jump like Van Halen, like our Jump 756 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 3: song would make it. 757 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: I also feel like somebody love might make it. 758 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 2: I mean it would have been perfect for loser like me. 759 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then they. 760 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 3: Would have had some weird duet on there like like 761 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 3: nowhere thank you exactly, which we love. 762 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like you'd be like, why this one? 763 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 4: You know? I would? I mean, I know I know 764 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 4: that Jenna want to buy it because if you had 765 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,359 Speaker 4: gungam style. 766 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 1: I would definitely I would. 767 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 2: I would burn it to the ground, throw it into 768 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 2: oncoming traffic. 769 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 4: And it's funny because I've been, you know, to prep 770 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 4: for this, I've been watching my my favorite episode, like 771 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 4: you could read Get My Help into the World Again. 772 00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and. 773 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 4: My favorite episode, Kevin on the entire show is your 774 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 4: favorite episode. 775 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 2: On the Alcohol. Yes, guys, this is why we've had 776 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 2: this connection now for like twenty years, because we have 777 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 2: the same daste. 778 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 3: Do you have any more questions for us, because we 779 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 3: you know, we obviously have a question for you. 780 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 1: A final question for you. 781 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 4: Do you have a I do have a couple more 782 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 4: questions for you. 783 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 2: Great, go for it. 784 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 4: No, If now Big Morning is for you, Kevin, if 785 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 4: you were to write an already hen trick episode of 786 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 4: the show where it was already kind of in the 787 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,359 Speaker 4: vein of we always where you wanted to keep the 788 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:06,799 Speaker 4: Green Cup? The Green Club are acting about something, where 789 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 4: would you want to take it? 790 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 3: Oh ooh. 791 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:21,800 Speaker 2: Interesting? I hmmm. I think Artie as Kevin or Artie. 792 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 4: Either or either or. 793 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:28,799 Speaker 1: Hm hmm. 794 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:36,240 Speaker 2: I I feel like several times throughout the series Artie 795 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 2: was referred to as uh well, one time he was 796 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 2: referred to sort of like the glue of the group. Yes, 797 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 2: And I feel like he got into it a couple 798 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,879 Speaker 2: of times with like Rachel storming off and personality things 799 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,360 Speaker 2: like that. I think it may be a lesson in 800 00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 2: being a team player, understanding other people perspectives and how 801 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 2: it's not not everything is easy for everybody else, and 802 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 2: like to have the empathy for everybody else around you, 803 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,800 Speaker 2: because I think a lot of times in high school 804 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,800 Speaker 2: or as performers, people can be a little self centered 805 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 2: and I think maybe think just a little, just a little. 806 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,399 Speaker 2: They're all just you know, projecting insecurity on everybody else. 807 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 2: So I feel like maybe in that vein would have 808 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 2: been something through R and B music. 809 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 4: That I mean that the other thing I think it 810 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:39,399 Speaker 4: would have been funny if you did. We'll be two 811 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 4: k crawl over moment on Glee. 812 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,720 Speaker 2: Mean you're speaking his language. Do you know how often 813 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 2: I in the back of my head, I was like, 814 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 2: I wish we could just do like Nya is in 815 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 2: a B two K music video, like I was signed 816 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 2: to B two K. People like, but I'm like, I 817 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,279 Speaker 2: know Ryan Murphy has never even heard beat Another, and 818 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 2: I was like, I can't pitch this. 819 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 4: Another fun throwback for Artie that I think would be 820 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 4: fun is got to Get Through This by Daniel Beddingfield. 821 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 2: Stop this, Wow, Stop this right now. 822 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:15,440 Speaker 3: Wow. 823 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 1: Guys are really wow. 824 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 2: The way I was obsessed. 825 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 1: With mine mold mine, mold right here. 826 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,799 Speaker 3: Ah wow, wow, wow, wow wow, you said Daniel. 827 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,600 Speaker 1: Man, that's crazy. 828 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 2: I can't believe you've unlocked. So every time someone's like, 829 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,840 Speaker 2: what if you have done on Glee Daniel Field, he. 830 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 1: Said that in every red carpet. Wow impressive. 831 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 4: I feel like that week one of those moments where 832 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 4: I do feel like it'd be so much fun because 833 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 4: that could have ween that song could have worked so 834 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:55,960 Speaker 4: many differentiations. 835 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely totally missed opportunity for you. 836 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 4: Jenna we Very song from the ninety earlier early two thousands, 837 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 4: that that you want, that you would have wanted. 838 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I luckily I got like I got a lot 839 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 3: of the music that I was a fan of at 840 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,359 Speaker 3: the time, like Florence and Katie and Gaga, Like I 841 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 3: felt like I really Ryan really listened to me in 842 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,799 Speaker 3: that in that way. But I was just thinking, we 843 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 3: never we never did, and obviously this is very hard 844 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,439 Speaker 3: to accomplish, but we never did, Mariah, like we never 845 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:37,400 Speaker 3: did like Daydream or Music Box or any of those 846 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,399 Speaker 3: which were such staples in my life. 847 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 4: I think you would have done a good just a 848 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:44,479 Speaker 4: Girl by No Doubt. 849 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 1: Oh that's so good too. 850 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,720 Speaker 3: Honestly, that No Doubt album two I would have loved 851 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 3: to have done. I. 852 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 2: Wow, that's right. That would really suit you. 853 00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 1: That was really that's really good, Actually. 854 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 2: I know it is. 855 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 1: Why didn't we do that? 856 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:05,320 Speaker 2: Wow? 857 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? No, that's good. 858 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 2: That wow? 859 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, because there were some times where you guys 860 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 4: would pull out the deep corks. Yeah, there there was 861 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 4: always room for more. 862 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have loved for anybody to really pull 863 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 3: out like the Emo the Emo episodes, like I would 864 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:25,959 Speaker 3: have loved. 865 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 1: I know, it's not our show, and it wasn't right. 866 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 4: I also don't think it would work in a school shetting. 867 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 3: I mean give me some like give me some green 868 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 3: day doochie, and like give me and like give me 869 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 3: some like I don't know. I just feel like give 870 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 3: me some dashbark professional or sympol like I don't know. 871 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 1: It's like we were so. 872 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 4: The fun one for me that I think would be 873 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 4: fun because I always loved when the the other band 874 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 4: members would come in right, So think about this Ocean 875 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 4: Avenue Yellow Card. 876 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 3: I cannot the amount of times my husband makes fun 877 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 3: of me for talking about that album and talking about 878 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 3: Yellow Card is actually really yes all the time, He's like, 879 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 3: where's your Yellow Card? 880 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 1: Because I love Yellow Card Love. 881 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they made me gay. I love them. 882 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 2: I was upset crushes on all of them. 883 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 1: What a great bit. 884 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 4: But I will okay and then I'll shut. 885 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 2: No, this is great. We are shocked, like these are 886 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 2: these song references. We've talked about this so many times 887 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 2: for so many years, and no one has ever said 888 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 2: gotten it. 889 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 4: These songs one song that I've show influential to me 890 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,480 Speaker 4: in my childhood. It would never make Hank for the 891 00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 4: show because honestly, there was a other intel actual I 892 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 4: p connected to it, and it the boy actually Mayer 893 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 4: song from the rug Reck movie. 894 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 2: If you had told me that this song was going 895 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 2: to come up today, I would have put everything, my 896 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 2: loved ones, any money I've ever earned on the line 897 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 2: of it, Like you're wrong. 898 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 3: That music video, that music video, but what wow, very good. 899 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 2: One of the greatest songs of all time. 900 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 1: All time. It's ingrained in me. 901 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,960 Speaker 2: I can see the music video in my right. 902 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 1: They will never not see it. 903 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 4: Nobody, nobody appreciates that. 904 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 1: You're right now, and I can't believe that you just 905 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 1: brought that up. 906 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,919 Speaker 4: That was the first hit I ever bought. Oh my god, 907 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 4: and every time I heard it, I will When I 908 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 4: would be going into school, my mom would have to 909 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,960 Speaker 4: hold the bush to show I could hear the music 910 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 4: video on the TV. Like I just I remember that. 911 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 1: It's so good. 912 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 2: It's also for a bus ride take me there. I 913 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,800 Speaker 2: like that. 914 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I am that's really good. 915 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 1: This is so much fun. 916 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 2: We didn't do now, I'm just like, we didn't do. 917 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 4: I feel bad. I feel bad that I'm taking over all. 918 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:50,960 Speaker 2: Wow. 919 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,080 Speaker 1: Oh we didn't Okay, we didn't do Maya. We didn't 920 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:55,960 Speaker 1: do any maya. 921 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 4: You could have done Cake of the act that would 922 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 4: have been so good. 923 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god, so pissed if I didn't get to 924 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 2: do a case of the X. No. 925 01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 1: No, it's like a it's like a Britanna song, you 926 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean. 927 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 2: Okay, that's how I heard, Like how they're dancing, I 928 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,960 Speaker 2: wouldn't have been singing it. 929 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 1: We get some backup dancers, did. 930 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 4: You guys ever do no dignity? 931 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 3: No? 932 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 2: I don't think that would Yeah, that makes no sense. 933 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 4: But yeah, back my deep cut for you. 934 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I'll never forget it alone. 935 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 2: Now I can't stop thinking it all. 936 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 4: We'll talk more about this when you appear on my. 937 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 2: Okay, great, I'm gonna have to go through my was like, whoa, 938 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 2: I'm there. 939 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 3: Okay, So before we let you go, we really could 940 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:52,240 Speaker 3: talk to you forever. 941 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 1: Is what is the feeling like Lee leaves you with. 942 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 4: It leaves I mean with feeling of being thankful because 943 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 4: I'm I've always been a fan of the show, but 944 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:16,320 Speaker 4: I'm fairly new to the fandom, like meeting other gleeks 945 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 4: and I mean I had to give a shout out 946 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 4: to Andrew for from Gleek of the Week forgetting to 947 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 4: action touch because he's been such a really big advocate 948 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,280 Speaker 4: for me and what I do. But I'm just so 949 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:37,880 Speaker 4: thankful that your show with the vehicle for so many 950 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 4: things in my life, whether you knew it or not, 951 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 4: and it made me feel like I'm waking alone anymore. 952 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,479 Speaker 4: And I wanted to thank you for that too. 953 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:59,600 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. Yeah, that hearing and meeting people 954 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 2: who took so much away from the show and that 955 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 2: way means so much to us. You never expect that 956 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,240 Speaker 2: to happen, and that was the greatest gift the show 957 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 2: has ever given us and keeps giving us. So thank 958 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 2: you for loving the show and seeing it and spending 959 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,320 Speaker 2: so much time with us today. Yeah, we really really 960 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 2: appreciate it. And you, you know, doing prep to come 961 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,280 Speaker 2: on here. I can't wait to come on your show. 962 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 2: I feel like everyone needs to go listen to your 963 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,560 Speaker 2: podcast because you're incredible. 964 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 4: I might have your price gets for your fro, I know. 965 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:43,080 Speaker 3: Oh my god. Please tell us where people can find 966 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,240 Speaker 3: you and listen to your podcast. 967 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:51,200 Speaker 4: I'm everywhere, I'm where, we everywhere. You can find me 968 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:57,200 Speaker 4: at djbobshow dot com. You can find me on Instagram 969 01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 4: at dj Bob Show podcast or my personal instagram Runk 970 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:07,280 Speaker 4: Instagram which is my last name, mame. I'm I'm a 971 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 4: pun guy. So are you? N K Star Graham and 972 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:18,960 Speaker 4: you'll follow me there and I've got everything everything go there. 973 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 2: An icon and a legend. Thank you so so much 974 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 2: for joining us. It was so nice to see you again. 975 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,480 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much, Thank you so much. It 976 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:33,760 Speaker 1: was so nice to meet you. Yeah, for sure, ye. 977 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:39,439 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, why did I get I'm so intimidated 978 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:39,880 Speaker 3: by him. 979 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,919 Speaker 2: I'm because he's a real podcast host. We're just faking it. 980 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:48,919 Speaker 3: No, but also like knows everything everything that's great. References 981 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,200 Speaker 3: were jaw dropping. 982 01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 2: I am shook. 983 01:04:52,960 --> 01:05:00,600 Speaker 3: What a great human Glee fan podcaster. We're so lucky 984 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:01,760 Speaker 3: we got that episode. 985 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 2: I feel humbled by in every sort of way. I'm 986 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:07,840 Speaker 2: in awe. 987 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,479 Speaker 3: It also must feel like, oh, very special for you, Kevin, 988 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:17,360 Speaker 3: because like I feel very grateful for hearing his what 989 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 3: he took away from the show. 990 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 1: I can only imagine what that means for you. 991 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to verbalize. Yeah, I'm not. You could 992 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,480 Speaker 2: probably tell I was stumbling through all that because I've 993 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 2: always felt really conflicted about me playing a character and 994 01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,520 Speaker 2: a chair, especially as you know, time's gone on and 995 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:46,880 Speaker 2: we've learned to know better. And for me, the driving 996 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 2: force was always that it was about the representation. And 997 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 2: I have to trust that, you know, Ryan and everybody did. 998 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,760 Speaker 2: They thought I was the best for the role, and 999 01:05:54,800 --> 01:06:00,000 Speaker 2: that was that and and so it is. It's nice 1000 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,080 Speaker 2: to be reminded that the show did have that impact 1001 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 2: on people, especially people in chairs. And yeah, I'm just 1002 01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:14,240 Speaker 2: I'm just so incredibly grateful and humbled and thankful to 1003 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:18,480 Speaker 2: have someone like Bob who got so much from the 1004 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 2: show and party and you and Alarti. Yeah, and like 1005 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,160 Speaker 2: I know, it is not about me. It is about 1006 01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,960 Speaker 2: you know, Artie and the way that you also. 1007 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:30,800 Speaker 1: Handled him so well. 1008 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:36,240 Speaker 3: You you handled Arty with such care and such you know, uh, 1009 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:40,120 Speaker 3: you were so conscious about everything and so careful and 1010 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,240 Speaker 3: kind and thoughtful about it all and about your fans 1011 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 3: and about the character, and so it is a testament 1012 01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,200 Speaker 3: to you as well, and how you handled it all 1013 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 3: and your con you know, constant care for Artie and 1014 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,000 Speaker 3: how those storylines were perceived. 1015 01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,800 Speaker 1: And done and just everything. 1016 01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,840 Speaker 2: And the writers did too though, you know, the writers, 1017 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 2: like I think everybody, each of us got to be 1018 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 2: a fully fledged character and we got to yeah, challenge 1019 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:14,200 Speaker 2: the cliches and stereotypes that people may associate with any 1020 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:15,800 Speaker 2: of our characters. 1021 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 3: And like Bob, he's so much more, you know what 1022 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,200 Speaker 3: I mean, He's not just one thing. 1023 01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:26,160 Speaker 2: So yes, exactly, Bob, you just be My face hurts 1024 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:31,760 Speaker 2: from smiling and I'm shocked. Take me their reference at 1025 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,040 Speaker 2: the end of but snuck that in Are you kidding me? 1026 01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:34,960 Speaker 4: There? 1027 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,840 Speaker 1: Before Daniel Bedingfield, I cannot. 1028 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:43,040 Speaker 2: Get out of here and go subscribe to DJ Bob 1029 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:48,000 Speaker 2: Podcast and listen because clearly an expert in all things 1030 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,720 Speaker 2: pop culture. And thank you so much for spending this 1031 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 2: much time with us, and that's what you really missed. Yeah, 1032 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,440 Speaker 2: thanks for listening, and follow us on Instagram at and 1033 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 2: that's what you really miss pod. Make sure to write 1034 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,080 Speaker 2: us a review and leave us five stars. 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